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2008-03-02 02:59 < White_Cat> for GODS sake
2008-03-02 03:00 < Daniel_Bush> Is that thing looping forever?
2008-03-02 03:00 < Daniel_Bush> I can't tell if it's stopped
2008-03-02 03:02 < kies> yeah it loops
2008-03-02 03:02 < White_Cat> of course it loops
2008-03-02 03:02 < White_Cat> why esle would he switch them
2008-03-02 03:02 < White_Cat> it would run out of pps and theyd 'strugle'
2008-03-02 03:02 < White_Cat> one would eventualy faint
2008-03-02 03:03 < White_Cat> or both could faint
2008-03-02 03:03 < Daniel_Bush> But they'd all eventually be used up with only six slots
2008-03-02 03:03 < White_Cat> Daniel_Bush right...
2008-03-02 03:03 < Daniel_Bush> After 480 splashes
2008-03-02 03:03 < White_Cat> oh boy...
2008-03-02 03:04 < White_Cat> you gotto count in switches too
2008-03-02 03:04 < White_Cat> they take a turn too
2008-03-02 03:04 < Daniel_Bush> 492, then
2008-03-02 03:04 < Daniel_Bush> Actually, just 490
2008-03-02 03:04 < White_Cat> 480*2 = 960
2008-03-02 03:04 < White_Cat> one attack
2008-03-02 03:04 < White_Cat> 1 switch
2008-03-02 03:04 < Daniel_Bush> Oh, I see
2008-03-02 03:05 < Daniel_Bush> Why are they switching between attacks
2008-03-02 03:05 < White_Cat> to create the illusin they arent running out of pps
2008-03-02 03:05 < White_Cat> like we dont know any better
2008-03-02 03:07 < Daniel_Bush> I imagine in Star Trek, patriotism has been reduced to the "state-riotism" where no one cares except at sporting events
2008-03-02 03:09 < White_Cat> Daniel_Bush not true
2008-03-02 03:09 * White_Cat slaps Daniel_Bush a klingon
2008-03-02 03:09 * White_Cat stuffs a romulan into Daniel_Bush's mouth
2008-03-02 03:10 < Daniel_Bush> Oh, right, Chekov
2008-03-02 03:11 < Daniel_Bush> Silly Chekov and his wodka
2008-03-02 03:20 < White_Cat> Daniel_Bush PLEASE
2008-03-02 03:20 < White_Cat> its not wodka
2008-03-02 03:20 < White_Cat> its Votka
2008-03-02 03:20 < Soms> O_o
2008-03-02 03:21 < The359> not in the Motherland
2008-03-02 03:21 < White_Cat> Soms you want votka?
2008-03-02 03:21 < Soms> please
2008-03-02 03:21 < Soms> a double
2008-03-02 03:21 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka
2008-03-02 03:21 < The359> Needs moar nuclear wessels
2008-03-02 03:24 < White_Cat> budzeal?
2008-03-02 03:28 < scorchsaber> The359: hah
2008-03-02 03:28 < scorchsaber> That's the first time I've seen anybody use that line in conversation. :(
2008-03-02 03:28 < Malfunc> :S
2008-03-02 03:29 < Malfunc> This conversation is degenerating.
2008-03-02 03:30 < The359> you haven't been around long enough
2008-03-02 03:32 < Daniel_Bush> 2It's better than it was 2 hours ago
2008-03-02 03:34 < Daniel_Bush> I'm sick of Rezko-Obama articles
2008-03-02 03:36 < Daniel_Bush> He only worked with him for six hours as a lawyer for his church in a partnership, and sought real estate advice from him, and didn't get any special treatment from his then co-worker status when buying his house; he was the highest bidder. And Clinton isn't so clean herself, what with that photo she took with him, and when she said she has thousands of photos taken a day and she can't...
2008-03-02 03:36 < Daniel_Bush> ...remember it, details turned up relating to it. It's pathetic.
2008-03-02 03:37 < White_Cat> Daniel_Bush
2008-03-02 03:37 < White_Cat> clinton had monika
2008-03-02 03:37 < White_Cat> I wonder why hillary didnt hire monica
2008-03-02 03:52 < Daniel_Bush> http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080302/NEWS02/803020369/1009/RSS0102 Good ol' TN GOP
2008-03-02 03:53 < Daniel_Bush> Showed Barack Obama in that African outfit with the turban while emphasizing his middle name
2008-03-02 03:53 < Daniel_Bush> in a press release
2008-03-02 03:56 < mavhc> he's visited other countries? well that's one up from the current guy
2008-03-02 03:56 < The359> Bush just got back from an African tour
2008-03-02 03:57 < mavhc> before he got this job he just couldn't afford to travel
2008-03-02 03:57 < arcimboldo_> When he came into office, all Bush knew of the world was Mexico ...
2008-03-02 03:57 < Daniel_Bush> His father was from Kenya, but left him when he was 2, and he was raised in Hawaii. He wanted to go back to the village where his father was from. They gave him village clothing as a present.
2008-03-02 03:57 < mavhc> he's good at foreign relations? I'd vote for him
2008-03-02 03:58 < Daniel_Bush> Was he supposed to say "I can't wear this, uncle. The xenophobes will make it bad PR."
2008-03-02 03:58 < mavhc> at least he'll be able to dance properly at these things
2008-03-02 04:01 < mavhc> hmm, watching youtube, perhaps not
2008-03-02 04:20 < Daniel_Bush> I'm glad we're at the point where a news article can mention a wiki like Wikileaks with no Wikipedia mention.
2008-03-02 04:38 < Daniel_Bush> Now that I've lulled #wikipedia into a false sense of security, I can mount my attack while its shields are down
2008-03-02 04:39 < Daniel_Bush> GNAA, 4Chan, and SA goons must be alerted; once the Great Wall is penetrated, the Mongols will come pouring through
2008-03-02 04:47 * Werdna sends ceiling_cat on Danny_B
2008-03-02 04:47 < Werdna> also daniel_bush
2008-03-02 04:49 < Danny_B> Werdna: watch your tab key :-P
2008-03-02 05:06 < Mike_H> ooooooohhhh
2008-03-02 05:06 * Mike_H shakes with anger
2008-03-02 05:06 < Mike_H> I'm so pissed awwwwwf
2008-03-02 05:09 * symode09 waves to Mike_H
2008-03-02 05:09 * symode09 halves his price
2008-03-02 05:10 < Mike_H> you can't half 0.
2008-03-02 05:10 < symode09> Mike_H: what would you give me?
2008-03-02 05:10 < Mike_H> a smile
2008-03-02 05:10 < Mike_H> I'll even give it to you up-front
2008-03-02 05:10 < Mike_H> :)
2008-03-02 05:10 < Kamping_Kaiser> aww. <3 cute :p
2008-03-02 05:11 < symode09> Mike_H: something i can steal
2008-03-02 05:11 < symode09> *sell
2008-03-02 05:11 < symode09> srry
2008-03-02 05:11 < Species8473> are there issues with the images server?
2008-03-02 05:12 * Mike_H gives Kamping_Kaiser a grin
2008-03-02 05:12 < Mike_H> :D
2008-03-02 05:12 < Kamping_Kaiser> Mike_H, :D hey mate
2008-03-02 05:12 < Mike_H> hey
2008-03-02 05:21 < eth01> :p
2008-03-02 05:21 * eth01 waves in big circles.
2008-03-02 05:21 < Mike_H> heh
2008-03-02 05:22 < eth01> j #wikia
2008-03-02 05:22 < str4nd> failure
2008-03-02 05:22 < eth01> er ignore
2008-03-02 05:22 < eth01> ;)
2008-03-02 05:22 < Mike_H> hahaha
2008-03-02 05:22 < str4nd> :)
2008-03-02 05:22 < eth01> i'm in over 40 channels here, it's not easy :p
2008-03-02 05:23 < Warpath> really, i get 4 :P
2008-03-02 05:24 * brown_cat walks over Warpath
2008-03-02 05:24 < The359> why are you in 40?
2008-03-02 05:32 < eth01> things, The359.
2008-03-02 05:34 < The359> Is Commons a little slow tonight
2008-03-02 05:34 < The359> I notice some images not loading on Wikipedia
2008-03-02 05:39 < geniice> there appears to be a problem with one of the servers
2008-03-02 05:39 < The359> figured
2008-03-02 06:05 < eth01> fixed ;)
2008-03-02 06:23 < geniice> http://www.soundcopyright.eu/petition
2008-03-02 06:30 < geniice> how did I miss The Associated Press v. Moreover Technologies ?
2008-03-02 06:30 < geniice> looks like an interesting case
2008-03-02 06:33 < geniice> AP might actualy win
2008-03-02 06:36 < geniice> Problem is that while their argument is reasonable it would set an unfortunate legal precedent
2008-03-02 06:37 < E_Wing> Does a userpage/usertalkpage that looks like a article viable for deletion?
2008-03-02 06:37 < mexicanbanana> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/CarolusThermen04.jpg <-- What are those round things for?
2008-03-02 06:37 < Werdna> i dunno. is it hurting anything?
2008-03-02 06:38 < E_Wing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Spacemass
2008-03-02 06:38 < The359> maybe there's an underwater tunnel, mexicanbanana
2008-03-02 06:38 < AdamBishop> the round things are hot tubs
2008-03-02 06:39 < The359> you can pop into it and see out
2008-03-02 06:39 < The359> I think he means the bubbles, AdamBishop
2008-03-02 06:39 < AdamBishop> oh right
2008-03-02 06:39 < AdamBishop> maybe they are like Super Mario pipes
2008-03-02 06:39 < mexicanbanana> Yeah, I meant the glass bubbles.
2008-03-02 06:39 < The359> that user's only edits have been to his user page
2008-03-02 06:40 < The359> So I'd say kill it
2008-03-02 06:40 < mexicanbanana> Wouldn't there be very little air in there if there is an underwater tunnel?
2008-03-02 06:40 < mexicanbanana> Sounds extremely dangerous.
2008-03-02 06:40 < mexicanbanana> It being sealing and all...
2008-03-02 06:40 < The359> could be air piped in
2008-03-02 06:40 < mexicanbanana> s/sealing/sealed/
2008-03-02 06:40 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Spacemass
2008-03-02 06:40 < geniice> the entrace will not be sealed
2008-03-02 06:42 < Werdna> E_Wing: looks like "Wikipedia is not free hosting". User has no other contribs.
2008-03-02 06:42 < The359> blank it? block him?
2008-03-02 06:43 < E_Wing> Ah ok
2008-03-02 06:43 < E_Wing> So its speedy delete then
2008-03-02 06:43 < The359> not sure if it qualifies for Speedy
2008-03-02 06:44 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion might want to go for this
2008-03-02 06:44 < Werdna> meh
2008-03-02 06:44 < The359> it'll bring the user's actions to the attention of admins
2008-03-02 06:44 < Werdna> just delete it
2008-03-02 06:44 < Werdna> no kittens will die of it
2008-03-02 06:44 < Werdna> MfD would be a waste of process
2008-03-02 06:44 < The359> I'll blank his talk page and leave him a warning
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> erm, scratch that
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> he hasn't edited since 2006
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> Just delete away
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> he wont notice
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> hmmm, scratch that again
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> he's been editing his talk page through an IP address
2008-03-02 06:45 < The359> I'll warn that user
2008-03-02 06:46 < Werdna> fuck that
2008-03-02 06:46 < Werdna> just delete it :P
2008-03-02 06:46 < Aqwis2> no point in taking away his editing privs for a minor thing like that
2008-03-02 06:46 < The359> I was going to delete the talk
2008-03-02 06:46 < The359> and warn the IP user about continuing to write to Spacemass's talk page
2008-03-02 06:47 < arcimboldo_> He probably lost his password ...
2008-03-02 06:47 < E_Wing> Can be..
2008-03-02 06:50 < The359> You going to blank his user page, E_Wing?
2008-03-02 06:51 < E_Wing> Sure
2008-03-02 06:51 < E_Wing> But you can do the hno
2008-03-02 06:51 < E_Wing> *honors
2008-03-02 06:53 < The359> both pages blanked
2008-03-02 06:53 < The359> warned the IP user
2008-03-02 06:53 < E_Wing> Thanks
2008-03-02 06:56 < geniice> Canon EOS 1DS Mark III for £6,000 ow
2008-03-02 07:01 < The359> ?
2008-03-02 07:02 < Werdna> Martinp23: plz explain
2008-03-02 07:02 < Martinp23> Werdna: Spammer.
2008-03-02 07:03 < Martinp23> (via PM across the network)
2008-03-02 07:03 < Werdna> ah
2008-03-02 07:03 < Martinp23> Sorry for the lack of reason there :)
2008-03-02 07:03 * Werdna wonders why /remove is used at all.
2008-03-02 07:03 < Soms> cleaner than a kick
2008-03-02 07:03 < Soms> no autorejoin
2008-03-02 07:03 < Werdna> freenode touts it as a nicer kick, but in reality, a kick is a kick.
2008-03-02 07:04 < Werdna> Soms: autorejoin can still happen.. depends on the client-script
2008-03-02 07:04 < Starnestommy> looks like a /part
2008-03-02 07:04 * Soms nods
2008-03-02 07:04 < Starnestommy> and confuses the "victim"
2008-03-02 07:04 * Werdna wonders what RfC1459 would have to say.
2008-03-02 07:05 < Starnestommy> they have autorejoin for kicks on, but a /remove makes them go "WTF? Who made me leave!? Why did my 1337 auto-rejoin script fail!?!?!"
2008-03-02 07:05 < The359> or they wonder what the fuck they accidentally clicked/typed
2008-03-02 07:06 < Soms> Werdna: I dont think we've ever been RFC 1459 compliant.
2008-03-02 07:06 < Werdna> mmmm
2008-03-02 07:06 < Werdna> brb
2008-03-02 07:15 < E_Wing_> Brb, will eat supper
2008-03-02 08:04 < pill> * Werdna wonders what RfC1459 would have to say.
2008-03-02 08:04 < pill> > werda, well, it's not included there, but not everything we can use is; should not even be included in kalt's "updates" of rfc1459 ...
2008-03-02 08:55 < garo> Why do we have this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_that_most_frequently_use_the_word_%22fuck%22 ?
2008-03-02 08:56 < garo> seems pretty useless...
2008-03-02 08:56 < Thehelpfulone2> I will second that
2008-03-02 08:56 < Thehelpfulone2> perhaps an AFD?
2008-03-02 08:57 < geniice> no
2008-03-02 08:57 < Thehelpfulone2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_films_that_most_frequently_use_the_word_%22fuck%22
2008-03-02 08:57 < pill> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_films_that_most_frequently_use_the_word_%22fuck%22 ...
2008-03-02 08:57 < The359> it's been around a long time
2008-03-02 08:57 < Thehelpfulone2> wow - loads of deletions ;)
2008-03-02 08:57 < Thehelpfulone2> AFDs I mean
2008-03-02 08:58 < The359> It was even up for FA
2008-03-02 09:17 < cimon> http://www.chickipedia.com/Image:Lucy_lawless01_171.jpg - I bet that is one Hockey game where the cheered the national anthem quite enthusiastically...
2008-03-02 09:18 < nsh> chickipedia..awesome
2008-03-02 09:21 < cimon> http://www.chickipedia.com/Image:92589_01_122_339lo_132.jpg - I wonder whose birthday it is here...
2008-03-02 09:26 < White_Cat> cimon chikipedia?
2008-03-02 09:26 < White_Cat> is that like wikipedia + information you really want to know?
2008-03-02 09:27 < White_Cat> cimon neither url works
2008-03-02 09:27 < White_Cat> btw
2008-03-02 09:28 < The359> I like how they have their dimensions and a diagram on every page
2008-03-02 09:29 < The359> http://www.chickipedia.com/Carly_Fiorina wtf
2008-03-02 09:29 < The359> fail
2008-03-02 09:31 < The359> ooo, got lucky with the random button
2008-03-02 09:31 < The359> Billie Piper
2008-03-02 09:32 < White_Cat> http://www.chickipedia.com/Hillary_Clinton
2008-03-02 09:32 < White_Cat> http://www.chickipedia.com/Monica_Lewinsky
2008-03-02 09:32 < The359> ...
2008-03-02 09:32 < White_Cat> if you were bill clinton which one would you choose?
2008-03-02 09:33 < The359> anyone but
2008-03-02 09:33 < White_Cat> #
2008-03-02 09:33 < White_Cat> Hookups:
2008-03-02 09:33 < White_Cat> Bill Clinton, Linda Tripp, Janet Reno
2008-03-02 09:33 < The359> ...
2008-03-02 09:33 < White_Cat> “Bills dick was nice, but not as long and as hard as andrew abrahams.”
2008-03-02 09:34 < White_Cat> Seems like his entire contribution to civilisation is a scandal
2008-03-02 09:34 < White_Cat> *her
2008-03-02 09:41 < scorchsaber> White_Cat: She did try hosting a TV show once, I think
2008-03-02 09:41 < White_Cat> if it isnt on chikipedia it didnt happen
2008-03-02 09:41 < White_Cat> :D
2008-03-02 09:41 < White_Cat> I dono
2008-03-02 09:41 < White_Cat> having consensual sex
2008-03-02 09:41 < White_Cat> and then complaining over it
2008-03-02 09:41 < White_Cat> doesnt seem right to me
2008-03-02 09:42 < White_Cat> adultry yes
2008-03-02 09:42 < White_Cat> but adultry isnt illegal
2008-03-02 09:57 < NotACow> adultery is too illegal
2008-03-02 09:57 < NotACow> it's a felony
2008-03-02 09:58 < The359> in all states?
2008-03-02 09:58 < Starnestommy> the law cannot control one's genitalia
2008-03-02 09:58 < The359> In Maryland, adultery is punishable by a fine of $10.
2008-03-02 09:59 < The359> "Bitch, pay the man"
2008-03-02 09:59 < scorchsaber> In Iran...
2008-03-02 09:59 < NotACow> The359: in illinois, it's a class A misdemeanor, up to 1 year in prison
2008-03-02 09:59 < The359> For example, in Pennsylvania, adultery is technically punishable by 2 years of imprisonment or 18 months of treatment for insanity
2008-03-02 10:00 < The359> Fucking Pennsylvania...
2008-03-02 10:00 < NotACow> (a) Any person who has sexual intercourse with another not his spouse commits adultery, if the behavior is open and notorious, and
2008-03-02 10:00 < NotACow> (1) The person is married and the other person involved in such intercourse is not his spouse; or
2008-03-02 10:00 < NotACow> (2) The person is not married and knows that the other person involved in such intercourse is married.
2008-03-02 10:00 < Soms> The359: You better not be married and fucking pennsylvania.
2008-03-02 10:00 < The359> notorious?
2008-03-02 10:00 < The359> No, no, no, notorious?
2008-03-02 10:18 < zvook> haha
2008-03-02 10:18 < zvook> i never knew that. what a strange country.
2008-03-02 10:22 < Thehelpfulone2> [15:20] <EyeOfMisza> {#cvn-wp-en} !admin [[Special:Blockip/Charles Stewart]] moved [[User:Coolcaesar]] to [[User:Gigantic Cunt Douche Faggot Bitch]].
2008-03-02 10:22 < Thehelpfulone2> [15:20] <EyeOfMisza> {#cvn-wp-en} !admin [[Special:Blockip/Charles Stewart]] moved [[User talk:Coolcaesar]] to [[User talk:Gigantic Cunt Douche Faggot Bitch]].
2008-03-02 10:23 < Thehelpfulone2> can you guys delete it please?
2008-03-02 10:24 < GDonato> fixed
2008-03-02 10:25 < nsh> cimon: fancy fixifying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_slang#Usage_and_examples ?
2008-03-02 10:25 < GDonato> Thehelpfulone2: issued a npa4
2008-03-02 10:26 < Thehelpfulone2> npa4 ?
2008-03-02 10:26 < zvook> no personal attacks RAR!
2008-03-02 10:26 < GDonato> Final warning for personal attacks
2008-03-02 10:26 < Thehelpfulone2> ah ok :D
2008-03-02 10:26 < GDonato> {{npa4}}
2008-03-02 10:27 < zvook> i see the rfc for JzG has been posted.
2008-03-02 10:28 < zvook> JzG's response to notification of the 162 diff statement, "You are not welcome, and I am not intyerested in your laundry list of Wikipedia Review members' grudges"
2008-03-02 10:28 * GDonato wonders what caused that sudden outburst from Charles Stewart
2008-03-02 10:28 < zvook> that's a lotta grudges!
2008-03-02 10:32 < zvook> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Coolcaesar&diff=prev&oldid=195270421
2008-03-02 10:32 < GDonato> yeah, i saw
2008-03-02 10:33 < GDonato> he was warned for that
2008-03-02 10:33 < GDonato> if I seen he had been blocked before for incivility before I issued the warning, he would have been blocked again
2008-03-02 10:33 < GDonato> lucky he got such a lenient admin ;)
2008-03-02 10:34 < zvook> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Los_Angeles%2C_California#Requested_move_.235 is the source of it
2008-03-02 10:56 < Mahlzahn> blink, blink.
2008-03-02 10:56 < mexicanbanana> What is it called? The place where they put garbage on huge piles.
2008-03-02 10:56 < mexicanbanana> I have tried to find the article for 20 minutes now.
2008-03-02 10:56 < Mahlzahn> a "garbage dump"?
2008-03-02 10:56 < Elisson> "huge garbage pile place"! :D
2008-03-02 10:57 < mexicanbanana> Landfill?
2008-03-02 10:57 < Mahlzahn> yes
2008-03-02 10:57 < mexicanbanana> I always thought it was called "junk yard".
2008-03-02 10:57 < Mahlzahn> or no. :)
2008-03-02 10:57 < mexicanbanana> But apparently not...
2008-03-02 10:58 < Mahlzahn> a junk yard is not for garbage but for junk, i.e. scrap metal and the like.
2008-03-02 10:58 < Elisson> yeah
2008-03-02 10:58 < Elisson> car wrecks and so on
2008-03-02 10:58 < Mahlzahn> and mean dogs.
2008-03-02 10:58 < mexicanbanana> Hrm...
2008-03-02 10:58 < mexicanbanana> I thought they mixed everything.
2008-03-02 10:58 < Elisson> Mahlzahn, and gangsters crushing people in the crusher
2008-03-02 10:58 < Mahlzahn> oh, yeah. right. Forgot that one. :)
2008-03-02 10:59 < mexicanbanana> Hopefully that never happened.
2008-03-02 11:00 < Elisson> everything on film is real, has nobody told you that? :o
2008-03-02 11:01 < zvook> that's why nobody ever locks their car, for instance.
2008-03-02 11:01 < Elisson> exactly
2008-03-02 11:04 < mexicanbanana> Um... so what're they called?
2008-03-02 11:04 < mexicanbanana> The places where they dump trash.
2008-03-02 11:04 < Elisson> landfill.
2008-03-02 11:05 < mexicanbanana> But isn't that burying the trash?
2008-03-02 11:05 < mexicanbanana> (Which is almost comical.)
2008-03-02 11:05 < mexicanbanana> Instead of large mountains of trash.
2008-03-02 11:06 < Elisson> not necessarily
2008-03-02 11:07 < Elisson> just do a google image search for landfill
2008-03-02 11:07 < Elisson> and you'll see your mountains of trash
2008-03-02 11:07 < mexicanbanana> "A landfill, also known as a dump or tip (and historically as a midden), is a site for the disposal of waste materials by burial and is the oldest form of waste treatment."
2008-03-02 11:07 < mexicanbanana> Then the Wikipedia article lies.
2008-03-02 11:08 < Elisson> well, the mountains of trash might be buried later...
2008-03-02 11:10 < morwen> you bury the trash under other trash
2008-03-02 11:10 < morwen> thus causing a landfill
2008-03-02 11:10 < morwen> and a mountain
2008-03-02 11:10 < morwen> once you are finished, you will bury this under dirt
2008-03-02 11:10 < mexicanbanana> And then what?
2008-03-02 11:10 < morwen> trash/dirt/trash/dirt/trash/dirt would be inefficient use of space and dirt
2008-03-02 11:10 < mexicanbanana> It magically disappears?
2008-03-02 11:11 < morwen> no, you leave it there forever
2008-03-02 11:11 < mexicanbanana> Um...
2008-03-02 11:11 < Elisson> mexicanbanana, yes, someone says "abracadabra" and *poof'
2008-03-02 11:11 < mexicanbanana> Sounds short-sighted.
2008-03-02 11:11 < morwen> this is the canonical way of disposing of waste in the west at the momnt
2008-03-02 11:11 < mexicanbanana> Is there a material which is the "standard" material?
2008-03-02 11:11 < mexicanbanana> With completely neutral properties.
2008-03-02 11:12 < morwen> incineration requires far more capital cost
2008-03-02 11:12 < morwen> recycling also
2008-03-02 11:12 < dtobias> Future archaeologists may want to search through it.
2008-03-02 11:12 < morwen> dtobias: rename waste dumps "future archaeologist preservation resources"?
2008-03-02 11:12 < Elisson> morwen, depends on which countries in the west, actually
2008-03-02 11:13 < Elisson> I don't think Sweden has any "standard" landfills, for example
2008-03-02 11:13 < morwen> Elisson: surely it did 20 years ago
2008-03-02 11:13 < Elisson> not the "dump trash, bury it with dirt"
2008-03-02 11:13 < mexicanbanana> And global warming is just an "Earth challenge".
2008-03-02 11:13 < morwen> either that or it was exporting it to countries that did
2008-03-02 11:13 < Elisson> morwen, I actually doubt we did
2008-03-02 11:14 < Elisson> I'll check on it, as it is an interresting question
2008-03-02 11:15 < mexicanbanana> Is there a material which is the "standard" material? With completely neutral properties, color and form.
2008-03-02 11:15 < morwen> mexicanbanana: that question doesn't even make sense
2008-03-02 11:16 < morwen> Elisson: i see apparently incineration is really big there
2008-03-02 11:16 < Elisson> morwen, yes
2008-03-02 11:17 < Elisson> but it seems we do have a few of the standard landfills
2008-03-02 11:17 < morwen> there's some stuff that burning is a bad idea and you can't recycle
2008-03-02 11:17 < morwen> it looks like from the mid-1980s landfill use was dramatically decreased
2008-03-02 11:17 < mexicanbanana> morwen: I want to create a machine which takes any material/trash and created solid blocks of standard material from these, which can then be used to create anything.
2008-03-02 11:18 < morwen> mexicanbanana: have you read about how there are different types of atoms?
2008-03-02 11:18 < mexicanbanana> When did we figure out this? Wasn't an atom the smallest possible thing that we knew about for a long time?
2008-03-02 11:19 < morwen> um, no
2008-03-02 11:19 < mexicanbanana> I'm pretty sure it was um, yes.
2008-03-02 11:19 < Aqwis2> wow, is the swedish school that bad? :p
2008-03-02 11:20 < Elisson> uhh?
2008-03-02 11:20 < morwen> mexicanbanana: what is the point in asking questions if you are going to pig-ignorantly contradict answers?
2008-03-02 11:20 < morwen> mexicanbanana: basically, the original idea of the atomic theory
2008-03-02 11:20 < morwen> was not that an atom was an actual physical particle
2008-03-02 11:20 < mexicanbanana> =/
2008-03-02 11:20 < mexicanbanana> I guess maybe I meant the atom core.
2008-03-02 11:21 < morwen> but that an atom OF SOMETHING was the smallest possible amount of something that was still actually a form of that something.
2008-03-02 11:21 < morwen> for example, an atom of gold is gold
2008-03-02 11:21 < morwen> an atom of iron is iron
2008-03-02 11:21 < mexicanbanana> Yes, but electrons and protons and neutrons can jump around, no?
2008-03-02 11:21 < mexicanbanana> Thus creating different atoms...
2008-03-02 11:21 < dtobias> Theoretically, things can be transmuted, but that takes a lot of energy.
2008-03-02 11:22 < morwen> mexicanbanana: transmuting between elements is impossible without the huge amounts of energy found in stars
2008-03-02 11:22 < mexicanbanana> Oh. :(
2008-03-02 11:22 < mexicanbanana> I thought this was possible today, although not effectively.
2008-03-02 11:22 < Cyrius> you can do it in a nuclear reactor
2008-03-02 11:22 < dtobias> So a more practical trash-recycler would have to just stick to sorting out all the different types of atoms and making only the things that the right sorts of atoms were there for.
2008-03-02 11:22 < morwen> and even then you can't do especially useful things in a nuclear reactor
2008-03-02 11:22 < morwen> they are good at turning thorium into uranium. not very good for turning lead into gold.
2008-03-02 11:23 < dtobias> Still, people throw away enough diverse stuff that they might still be able to do a lot with it.
2008-03-02 11:23 < Cyrius> there's ridiculously tiny amounts of precious metals in nuclear waste
2008-03-02 11:23 < mexicanbanana> Can't we melt down the trash so much that it all becomes a liquid and then sort of "pour sort" the atoms into different containers? Or is this a retarded idea?
2008-03-02 11:23 < Aqwis2> haha
2008-03-02 11:23 < Cyrius> retarded, no. possible, also no.
2008-03-02 11:23 < dtobias> There's probably a little bit of gold and silver present in dental fillings in dead and buried bodies.
2008-03-02 11:24 < Elisson> you could sort a it into a few different piles though
2008-03-02 11:24 < Elisson> metallic and non-metallic, for example
2008-03-02 11:24 < morwen> mexicanbanana: have you ever seen molten paper?
2008-03-02 11:24 < Elisson> magnetic, non-magnetic
2008-03-02 11:24 < Elisson> I mean
2008-03-02 11:25 < mexicanbanana> morwen: Nope.
2008-03-02 11:25 < morwen> mexicanbanana: because it just goes straight to burning
2008-03-02 11:25 < dtobias> Supposedly, paper preserves pretty well when buried in a landfill; no air gets through to decompose it. Maybe there are still some near-mint copies of [[Action Comics]] #1 under there.
2008-03-02 11:25 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-03-02 11:26 < Elisson> dtobias, a lot of stuff preserves well
2008-03-02 11:26 < Cyrius> [[thermal depolymerization]] can break down organic stuff into useful material, although it seems to have economic problems
2008-03-02 11:26 < Elisson> IIRC I've seen pics from a landfill of a dozen year old sausage
2008-03-02 11:29 < morwen> there're all sorts of categories of stuffs where you can do fractional distillation or centrifuge-based stuff to sort out things
2008-03-02 11:29 < morwen> but you need to be doing sorting to get that far
2008-03-02 11:30 < mexicanbanana> Basically they let the trash decompose naturally?
2008-03-02 11:30 < mexicanbanana> And then burn some of it?
2008-03-02 11:30 < mexicanbanana> And use machines to compress it further?
2008-03-02 11:30 < mexicanbanana> And bury some of it?
2008-03-02 11:31 < morwen> well, in the eu they are increasingly separating out paper, glass, plastics, metals by hand, and recycling those
2008-03-02 11:31 < Elisson> mmmhm
2008-03-02 11:32 < mexicanbanana> Must be very expensive to keep people to do that...
2008-03-02 11:32 < morwen> mexicanbanana: you get the people putting in the bins in the first place to do it
2008-03-02 11:32 < Elisson> what would cost?
2008-03-02 11:32 < mexicanbanana> I admit to putting HDDs in the trash can together with old food once. I hope that didn't break their truck or something.
2008-03-02 11:33 < mexicanbanana> Elisson: Guess...
2008-03-02 11:33 < mexicanbanana> morwen: But they won't.
2008-03-02 11:33 < Elisson> mexicanbanana, I put used paper in one pile, used glass in a bag, used metal in another, used plastics in a third
2008-03-02 11:33 < morwen> mexicanbanana: yes they will. this system is working out pretty well.
2008-03-02 11:33 < Elisson> then I take those bags and empty them in separate containers
2008-03-02 11:33 < mexicanbanana> You can't seriously expect people in general to do that.
2008-03-02 11:33 < morwen> mexicanbanana: people DO.
2008-03-02 11:33 < Elisson> mexicanbanana, you've never been to Sweden...
2008-03-02 11:34 < morwen> it makes people feel like they are doing their bit
2008-03-02 11:34 < Elisson> where people in general DO that
2008-03-02 11:34 < Cyrius> people need to get over the idea that there's an "away" where you can "throw" things
2008-03-02 11:34 < mexicanbanana> So you keep many separate trash cans inside your little apartment?
2008-03-02 11:34 < Elisson> mexicanbanana, yes.
2008-03-02 11:35 < Elisson> or rather, one trash can and a few bags
2008-03-02 11:35 < mexicanbanana> What about products made out of several materials?
2008-03-02 11:35 < Elisson> a huge majority of all products are one-material
2008-03-02 11:36 < Elisson> we also separate biomaterial from other trash
2008-03-02 11:36 < Cyrius> any product that doesn't have electronics in it, at least
2008-03-02 11:36 < morwen> There's also pressure to cut down on bimaterial packaging.
2008-03-02 11:36 < Elisson> and compost it
2008-03-02 11:36 < morwen> Like, you used to get soda cans that had different metal for ends and sides. These no longer exist.
2008-03-02 11:37 < Cyrius> morwen: you're kidding
2008-03-02 11:37 < Elisson> Cyrius, yeah, which goes to the recycling station for electronics
2008-03-02 11:38 < Elisson> morwen, I remember those. some had steel ends and aluminium sides iirc?
2008-03-02 11:38 < morwen> Elisson: yes, that's the one. I recall it was because making the ringpulls out of aluminium was hard.
2008-03-02 11:38 < Cyrius> weird
2008-03-02 11:39 < Cyrius> they've been all-aluminum in the US as long as I can remember
2008-03-02 11:39 < morwen> Yes
2008-03-02 11:39 < Elisson> I was just a little kid when those cans dissapeared
2008-03-02 11:39 < Cyrius> except for certain all-steel beer cans
2008-03-02 11:39 < morwen> Obviously they were a bugger to recycle.
2008-03-02 11:40 < Elisson> Cyrius, germany and many other central european countries still have all-steel cans
2008-03-02 11:40 < Cyrius> "The first soft drinks to be sold in all-aluminium cans were R.C. Cola and Diet-Rite Cola, both made by the Royal Crown Cola company, in 1964."
2008-03-02 11:41 < Cyrius> good old RC on the cutting edge
2008-03-02 11:41 < morwen> ok, so why were there bimetallic cans being sold in the uk in the 1980s
2008-03-02 11:43 < Elisson> prolly cheaper for the companies to make those cans
2008-03-02 11:44 < Cyrius> article doesn't say, wouldn't know where to look
2008-03-02 11:49 < NotACow> moo!
2008-03-02 11:50 < Soms> baaa!
2008-03-02 11:50 < Rinn> BRAWL IN A WEEK!
2008-03-02 11:50 < Thx> thx cow, great meat
2008-03-02 11:52 < Fabexplosive> MOOOOOO!
2008-03-02 11:52 < cimon> Elisson: steel cans were cool in that being able to squash those with your bare hands was a bit more impressive than it is with the aluminium cans...
2008-03-02 11:53 < Elisson> cimon, haha true
2008-03-02 11:53 < cimon> With aluminium cans you have to demonstrate both speed, accuracy and size of the finished squashed can.
2008-03-02 11:54 * cimon can do in one second a squashed aluminum can undistinguishable from a mechanically squashed one.
2008-03-02 11:54 < Elisson> I have no interest in destroying 0.50 SEK ;)
2008-03-02 11:57 < cimon> Elisson, me neither, but dutyfree usually doesn't have the return
2008-03-02 11:57 < Elisson> true :D
2008-03-02 11:57 < NotACow> cansquish!
2008-03-02 11:58 < NotACow> A CAN HAS CHEESEBURGER
2008-03-02 11:58 < NotACow> http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/taste_test_cheeseburger_in_a
2008-03-02 11:58 < Elisson> CANNED CHEEZEBURGERZ!
2008-03-02 11:58 < Elisson> damn, beat me
2008-03-02 11:58 < NotACow> hee hee
2008-03-02 11:59 < cimon> Elisson, neither did those cheap german stores we have here in finland, until the state pretty much forced them to, by upping the price for any unrecyclable containers...
2008-03-02 11:59 < Elisson> cimon, the swedish gov did the same
2008-03-02 12:00 < cimon> Elisson, you have lidl in sweden too?
2008-03-02 12:00 < Elisson> cimon, yeah, but that wasn't the problem
2008-03-02 12:00 < Elisson> it was done to stop all local grocery stores from selling imported cans
2008-03-02 12:00 < Elisson> german, arabic, polish... cola cans and so on
2008-03-02 12:01 < cimon> hmm. we still get imported cans in the "ethnic" stores...
2008-03-02 12:01 < Elisson> aha
2008-03-02 12:01 < cimon> and some specialty beverages, like root beer
2008-03-02 12:02 < Elisson> rooooooot beeeer
2008-03-02 12:02 < Elisson> mmhm
2008-03-02 12:02 < cimon> Bitch of a fact is I loove root beer, but it gives me splitting headaches.
2008-03-02 12:02 < Elisson> I like it in small zips
2008-03-02 12:03 < Elisson> just one can, not more
2008-03-02 12:04 < cimon> the only one I know I can get reliably is Stars and Stripes
2008-03-02 12:04 < nico_> hello!
2008-03-02 12:04 < Jonjonbt> Hey
2008-03-02 12:04 < nico_> i am new
2008-03-02 12:04 < nico_> what is this channel?
2008-03-02 12:05 < cimon> wha is .ar? Argentina?
2008-03-02 12:05 < Jonjonbt> It's for Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
2008-03-02 12:05 < nico_> cool
2008-03-02 12:05 < Jonjonbt> Sounds right
2008-03-02 12:05 < nico_> sounds cool
2008-03-02 12:05 < pill> nico_: have a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_guidelines/wikipedia
2008-03-02 12:05 < cimon> nico_, you from argentina?
2008-03-02 12:05 < nico_> wikipedia is a part of FSF??
2008-03-02 12:05 < nico_> or GNU?
2008-03-02 12:06 < cimon> nico_, not exactly, but we do use GNU licence
2008-03-02 12:06 < cimon> And RMS likes us, because he told us so...
2008-03-02 12:07 < cimon> clap your hands!
2008-03-02 12:07 < cimon> kumbayaa
2008-03-02 12:07 < Jonjonbt> nico_: Check out http://www.wikipedia.org/ and look for your language.
2008-03-02 12:08 < cimon> Jonjonbt, hmm, doesn't that portal have a very limited selection?
2008-03-02 12:08 < cimon> <grumble>
2008-03-02 12:08 < Jonjonbt> No.
2008-03-02 12:08 < Jonjonbt> All langs are on there I think
2008-03-02 12:08 * Jonjonbt checks
2008-03-02 12:09 < Jonjonbt> It's limited, but it's not VERY limited like you said.
2008-03-02 12:09 < cimon> great, it is much better than I remembered.
2008-03-02 12:10 < cimon> maybe they have improved it since I last checked.
2008-03-02 12:11 < cimon> though I am pretty sure they could fit in more languages around the globe, if they reduced font and increased the ball.
2008-03-02 12:12 < cimon> 12 or 15 easily, though 21 ought to be doable
2008-03-02 12:14 < cimon> the logo doesn't come close to filling the screen...
2008-03-02 12:14 < eth01> Mark_Ryan: .
2008-03-02 12:14 < eth01> damn.
2008-03-02 12:15 < zvook> that was very zen
2008-03-02 12:15 < cimon> I wonder who designed the current portal...
2008-03-02 12:15 < eth01> eth01.
2008-03-02 12:16 * Jonjonbt plays around with some CSS to make a new skin
2008-03-02 12:17 < Jonjonbt> O_O DerHexer uses ChatZilla?
2008-03-02 12:38 < NotACow> MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2008-03-02 12:38 < geniice> "this image of Stella Hudgens was done By me ALLIE STIFLA she is awsome i love you stella!!!!!!!" I've seen worse claims of authorship
2008-03-02 12:40 < Painezor> geniice: freak alert? :|
2008-03-02 12:41 < geniice> no 13 year old girl alert
2008-03-02 12:41 < geniice> FBI is watching you
2008-03-02 12:43 < Jonjonbt> Moo.
2008-03-02 12:52 < NotACow> whee
2008-03-02 12:53 < NotACow> bomb threat at old orchard in skokie
2008-03-02 12:53 < geniice> is it in a wikipedia article?
2008-03-02 12:54 < Franco_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Old_Orchard
2008-03-02 12:54 < Franco_> am i the only one thinking of buying one of Jimbo's t-shirts?
2008-03-02 12:55 < NotACow> jimbo has t-shirts?
2008-03-02 12:56 < Franco_> http://cgi.ebay.fr/Wikipedia-Jimmy-Jimbo-Wales-T-Shirt-left-at-ex-g-fs_W0QQitemZ290211080341QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2312QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
2008-03-02 12:56 < Jonjonbt> :-P
2008-03-02 12:56 < Franco_> you can also get a sweater http://cgi.ebay.fr/Wikipedias-Jimmy-Jimbo-Wales-Sweater-left-ex-g-fs_W0QQitemZ290211080891QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2312QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
2008-03-02 12:56 < JohnReaves> oh yay, spam
2008-03-02 12:57 < JohnReaves> Franco_:Know where I can get cheap Viagra?
2008-03-02 12:57 < NotACow> ha!
2008-03-02 12:57 * NotACow wonders if that auction is real.
2008-03-02 12:57 < Cyrius> Vi@gr@
2008-03-02 12:58 < Franco_> hahah, actually i just saw this at valleywag.com/ and i can't stop laughing about the whole thing
2008-03-02 12:58 < NotACow> hahaha
2008-03-02 12:59 < geniice> NotACow oh it's a real auction all right
2008-03-02 12:59 < NotACow> geniice: it would seem so!
2008-03-02 12:59 < Franco_> she's pissed
2008-03-02 12:59 < NotACow> i'm so tempted to buy them
2008-03-02 13:00 < NotACow> but they'll probably go more more than i can afford
2008-03-02 13:00 < geniice> except I think I've seen the face part of the photo before
2008-03-02 13:00 < Cyrius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Statement%2C_March_1st%2C_2008
2008-03-02 13:01 < geniice> also going by some of our vandalism around valentines day wikipedia is a classy way to court someone so why not use it to dump someone
2008-03-02 13:01 < Cyrius> it's an extremely popular way to announce someone's homosexuality
2008-03-02 13:01 < NotACow> haha
2008-03-02 13:02 < NotACow> jimmy's most recent twitter: "planning a quieter life"
2008-03-02 13:02 < Cyrius> can't blame him
2008-03-02 13:03 < NotACow> maybe he'll stick to fucking women who have some sense of discretion :)
2008-03-02 13:03 < geniice> Why plann a quieter life? I never plan a quieter life
2008-03-02 13:04 < Tony_Sidaway> What kind of idiotic gossip prompted Jimbo to write that, I wonder.
2008-03-02 13:04 < Tony_Sidaway> As if it's any business of anyone except Jimbo and whoever this woman is.
2008-03-02 13:04 < Cyrius> NotACow: anyone who would work for The O'Reilly Factor is clearly not in posession of good judgement
2008-03-02 13:05 < Cyrius> heh
2008-03-02 13:05 < NotACow> Cyrius: i just wonder how long before the protection of her article gets removed :)
2008-03-02 13:05 < Cyrius> holy crap this article makes her look crazy =)
2008-03-02 13:05 < geniice> Tony_Sidaway Eh her article has an interesting history on en
2008-03-02 13:05 < NotACow> Cyrius: the slate article makes it even more obvious
2008-03-02 13:05 < Tony_Sidaway> Cyrius: is that "O'Reilly" the bloke who has a show on Fox News?
2008-03-02 13:05 < Cyrius> "Marsden was given a conditional discharge with one year of probation in 2004 for criminal harassment of her boyfriend following a breakup.[7][8][9][10]"
2008-03-02 13:05 < Franco_> i bet the story will get picked up by "reliable sources" tommorow
2008-03-02 13:05 < NotACow> wikipedia's article is, frankly, very favorable to her
2008-03-02 13:05 < Cyrius> Tony_Sidaway: one of them, but probably the one you're thinking of
2008-03-02 13:06 < Tony_Sidaway> Cyrius: I mean Bill. I think that's his first name.
2008-03-02 13:06 < Cyrius> NotACow: where's this slate article?
2008-03-02 13:06 < Cyrius> Tony_Sidaway: yes, that's him
2008-03-02 13:06 < NotACow> Cyrius: moment, i'll get the link
2008-03-02 13:06 < Tony_Sidaway> Had a brief argument with that bloke from ER once.
2008-03-02 13:06 < Tony_Sidaway> Clooney
2008-03-02 13:06 < Cyrius> 'On May 30, 2007, Marsden was dismissed from Red Eye for what the New York Post reported as "erratic behaviour"[11] and escorted out of the Fox studio by security guards.'
2008-03-02 13:06 < Cyrius> she's too fucking crazy for Fox News
2008-03-02 13:06 < geniice> Tony_Sidaway but jimbo was dateing her for how long? ans we didn't get a free pic
2008-03-02 13:06 < Cyrius> holy fucking crap
2008-03-02 13:07 < Cyrius> geniice: less than a month, and it was february =)
2008-03-02 13:07 < Tony_Sidaway> George, not Rosemary
2008-03-02 13:07 < NotACow> Cyrius: sorry, salon, not slate.
2008-03-02 13:07 < NotACow> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/29/marsden/
2008-03-02 13:07 < Tony_Sidaway> I think he's her grandson of something
2008-03-02 13:07 < geniice> Cyrius still he should have got a free pic
2008-03-02 13:07 < Cyrius> geniice: hah
2008-03-02 13:07 < Franco_> haha
2008-03-02 13:07 < geniice> priorities people
2008-03-02 13:08 < Franco_> how could he not think of Commons?
2008-03-02 13:08 < zvook> "I considered myself single at the time of my one meeting with Rachel Marsden on February 9th, 2008. I am no longer involved with Rachel Marsden."
2008-03-02 13:08 < Cyrius> Tony_Sidaway: aunt
2008-03-02 13:08 < zvook> one meeting
2008-03-02 13:08 < NotACow> of all the people to have an affair with, he chose one of the wackiest there is
2008-03-02 13:08 < Cyrius> well, he's her nephew, she's his aunt
2008-03-02 13:08 < geniice> NotACow nyet she isn't a wikipedia editor
2008-03-02 13:09 < Tony_Sidaway> Okay, so he's Rosemary Clooney's aunt :p
2008-03-02 13:09 < Cyrius> insanity(fox news) > insanity(wikipedia)
2008-03-02 13:09 < Cyrius> Tony_Sidaway: yes. hollywood weirdoes.
2008-03-02 13:11 < mexicanbanana> If Spanish is just the DE FACTO language of Mexico... what's the official one? WP doesn't foretell.
2008-03-02 13:11 < r3m0t> yes it does
2008-03-02 13:12 < r3m0t> see footnote 1
2008-03-02 13:12 < geniice> mexicanbanana why does there need to be an official one?
2008-03-02 13:12 < Tony_Sidaway> mexicanbanana: as far as I'm aware, the UK has no "official" language either. In fact until recently a lot of our legal jargon was in Latin and Norman French, and some US courts still have that custom.
2008-03-02 13:13 < geniice> NotACow but why whould she use ebay.fr?
2008-03-02 13:13 < ut2004player> um can anyone tell me if apollo 11 was staged or real?
2008-03-02 13:13 < geniice> Tony_Sidaway welsh or galic
2008-03-02 13:13 < geniice> ut2004player> real
2008-03-02 13:13 < Tony_Sidaway> For EU purposes, our language is English (all EU documents are translated into the main languages of all member countries, which is getting DAMNED EXPENSIVE)
2008-03-02 13:13 < mexicanbanana> Hmm...
2008-03-02 13:14 < geniice> ut2004player http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
2008-03-02 13:14 < ut2004player> ah thanky you for the proof :)
2008-03-02 13:15 < Tony_Sidaway> ut2004player: Kubrick was going to stage it but he was too busy with preproduction for Barry Lyndon so they decided to just send the guys up and fake the movie using actual rocketry and amateur actors.
2008-03-02 13:15 < Tony_Sidaway> Former test pilots, would you believe.
2008-03-02 13:15 < CT-60-HAN> am i alone?
2008-03-02 13:15 * CT-60-HAN unzips his pants
2008-03-02 13:15 < Messedrocker> geniice, that should be integrated into the main hoax article, no?
2008-03-02 13:16 * CT-60-HAN starts to masturbate
2008-03-02 13:16 < geniice> Messedrocker would be too long
2008-03-02 13:16 < ut2004player> but why is the flag waving in the baclground in space where there is no air?