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2008-02-20 20:32 < The359> probably wont be able to see it
2008-02-20 20:32 < The359> snowing here
2008-02-20 20:32 < quanticle> Ah. That's unfortunate.
2008-02-20 20:33 * Ceiling_Cat watches quanticle
2008-02-20 20:33 < The359> plus, Law & Order will be on at 10
2008-02-20 20:33 < The359> so I'll be watching that
2008-02-20 20:33 < quanticle> Its -10F here, so I won't be watching from outside, if I can help it...
2008-02-20 20:36 < gnychis> what math plugin does wikipedia use for doing math?
2008-02-20 20:37 < Luna-San> I'm told we support LaTeX or something like it, if that's what you mean?
2008-02-20 20:38 < gnychis> yeah... but i'm trying to figure out how to install it on my own wiki
2008-02-20 20:38 < The359> quanticle
2008-02-20 20:39 < The359> CNN claims that the Navy is watching the weather
2008-02-20 20:39 < The359> but has not cancelled the launch yet
2008-02-20 20:39 < quanticle|away> Oh. Well, I guess NPR was report speculation then...
2008-02-20 20:39 < quanticle> *reporting
2008-02-20 20:39 < Tanoshii> What launch?
2008-02-20 20:39 < Tanoshii> oh i know
2008-02-20 20:39 < The359> Navy launch from the USS Lake Erie to take down Satellite USA 193
2008-02-20 20:39 < Tanoshii> Anti Satelite Missiles fire away!
2008-02-20 20:40 * Ceiling_Cat likes to watch
2008-02-20 20:40 < Tanoshii> This is a new thing
2008-02-20 20:40 < The359> and there's a lunar eclipse at the exact same time
2008-02-20 20:40 < compwhizii> lol
2008-02-20 20:40 < Tanoshii> I wonder if they can actually hit the target
2008-02-20 20:40 < The359> they claim to have a 10 second window to launch
2008-02-20 20:40 < compwhizii> probaly not
2008-02-20 20:40 < The359> if they miss, they can repeat this for the next 19 nights
2008-02-20 20:41 < Luna-San> gnychis: Ah... the people who know about such things tend to hang out in #mediawiki
2008-02-20 20:41 < The359> it's actually an anti-ballastic missle with new software to tell it to aim at a satellite
2008-02-20 20:41 < compwhizii> "This article contains information regarding a satellite which is scheduled to be a target for an ASAT missile launch in the next 2 hours."
2008-02-20 20:41 < compwhizii> hmmm
2008-02-20 20:42 < Luna-San> We've got a template for that, already, eh?
2008-02-20 20:42 < Luna-San> >.>
2008-02-20 20:42 < compwhizii> its custom
2008-02-20 20:42 < compwhizii> i think...
2008-02-20 20:42 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USS_Lake_Erie_%28CG-70%29_SM-3_start.jpg This is actually the exact ship and missle type being launched
2008-02-20 20:42 < The359> no, it's a template used on a few pages, compwhizii
2008-02-20 20:42 < compwhizii> nah
2008-02-20 20:42 < cctoide> dmoz turns 10 this year
2008-02-20 20:42 < compwhizii> yea it is
2008-02-20 20:42 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Launching/SM
2008-02-20 20:43 < compwhizii> The359: ROFL
2008-02-20 20:43 < compwhizii> at the image
2008-02-20 20:43 < The359> used on four different articles
2008-02-20 20:43 < compwhizii> and Yes I know its used
2008-02-20 20:43 < compwhizii> :)
2008-02-20 20:44 < The359> The Navy seems to think parts of it are going to come down new Maui, Hawai'i
2008-02-20 20:44 < compwhizii> notice how don't give up the ship next to it :)
2008-02-20 20:44 < compwhizii> o wait
2008-02-20 20:44 < The359> near Maui
2008-02-20 20:44 < compwhizii> I thought the thing was on fire
2008-02-20 20:44 < compwhizii> :P
2008-02-20 20:46 < The359> no, they vent the exhaust straight up
2008-02-20 20:49 < Ceiling_Cat> hrmmm
2008-02-20 20:49 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Gay bathhouse]] is not a bad article
2008-02-20 20:49 < Ceiling_Cat> especially considering the generally low quality of our homosexuality-related articles
2008-02-20 20:50 < Sgt_johnson> O_o
2008-02-20 20:50 < Ceiling_Cat> (for two years, I considered [[homosexuality]] to be the worst-written article on wikipedia.)
2008-02-20 20:51 * compwhizii Is about to begin fighting vandals
2008-02-20 20:52 * The359 just checked outside
2008-02-20 20:52 < The359> Clear sight of the moon
2008-02-20 20:52 < The359> and the eclipse has already started
2008-02-20 20:53 < compwhizii> i see
2008-02-20 20:54 * The359 gets out his camera and tripod
2008-02-20 20:54 < uberpenguin> sky is clear here on the east coast... sitting here with my binoculars
2008-02-20 20:57 < Seddon69> welsh whether is as reliable as always - cloudy
2008-02-20 20:58 < The359> I don't know if it is viewable in Europe
2008-02-20 20:59 < Seddon69> it is
2008-02-20 20:59 < Seddon69> well it would be if it wasnt cloudy
2008-02-20 21:00 < The359> unfortunately there's a lot of light pollution here at 9pm
2008-02-20 21:01 < The359> so my pictures might not be so great
2008-02-20 21:02 * Therapist_Cat cuddles with The359
2008-02-20 21:02 < The359> no
2008-02-20 21:02 * Therapist_Cat always like to cuddle afterwards
2008-02-20 21:12 < Ceiling_Cat> NOOOOO!
2008-02-20 21:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Any future installments were on hold due to the WGA Strike, 2007. Prior to the strike JMS urged Warner Brothers to commission a new DVD as they were suitably impressed with the sales for the first DVD. However, Warner Brothers felt that the WGA would not go on strike and as such refused to speed up the bureaucratic process; in their words "We don't want to be pressured in the process because we know there's not going to be a strike this year, we
2008-02-20 21:13 < Apple> what's on hold?
2008-02-20 21:14 < bumm13> "because we know there's not going to be a strike this year" <--- roffle
2008-02-20 21:14 < Cyrius> dunno, but JMS is probably the guy behind Babylon 5
2008-02-20 21:14 < The359> I hate that guy
2008-02-20 21:15 < Ceiling_Cat> Apple - Babylon 5 - the Lost Tales
2008-02-20 21:15 < Ceiling_Cat> the first DVD came out last July
2008-02-20 21:15 < Apple> oh well
2008-02-20 21:16 < Ceiling_Cat> the second one was delayed by the strike
2008-02-20 21:16 < The359> how many Bab 5 spinoffs is that now that have been cancelled?
2008-02-20 21:16 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - Crusade, and Legend of the Rangers
2008-02-20 21:16 < The359> and this now
2008-02-20 21:16 < The359> so 3
2008-02-20 21:16 < Ceiling_Cat> although the latter never got past a made-for-tv-made stage
2008-02-20 21:16 < Ceiling_Cat> made-for-tv-movie*
2008-02-20 21:17 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - this isn't cancelled, it actually did very well
2008-02-20 21:17 < Ceiling_Cat> it's just it got put on hold by the strike
2008-02-20 21:18 * Therapist_Cat ambles off to a dark alley to lie in wait
2008-02-20 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> http://xkcd.com/135/
2008-02-20 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> lulz
2008-02-20 21:23 < Alkivar> hi and welcome to last year
2008-02-20 21:23 < AndonicO> :O
2008-02-20 21:24 < bumm13> lol
2008-02-20 21:25 < AndonicO> Alkivar, a question for you: if we repeated last year for the second time, would it be the past, or the present?
2008-02-20 21:25 < AndonicO> ^_^
2008-02-20 21:25 < Alkivar> hrm interesting question
2008-02-20 21:25 < Alkivar> i'd say its still the past if its a repeat
2008-02-20 21:25 < AndonicO> But if we already lived it?
2008-02-20 21:25 < Alkivar> of course if it wasnt an exact 1:1 repeat i'd call it the present
2008-02-20 21:26 < AndonicO> It is a 1:1 repeat, except we're doing it for the second time.
2008-02-20 21:26 < AndonicO> ^Just to complicate things.
2008-02-20 21:27 < Alkivar> if its something identical... just say repeated 200 years later... its still the past if its 1:1
2008-02-20 21:27 < AndonicO> But if we had already done all that, and distinctively remembered doing it...
2008-02-20 21:27 < Alkivar> i somehow doubt thanks to chaos theory you could ever exactly duplicate it 1:1
2008-02-20 21:27 < Ceiling_Cat> I just got an email from Mitrionics: We are able to accelerate many proprietary HPC applications and save significant development time versus programming in an HDL. Feel free to inquire.
2008-02-20 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> LIES!
2008-02-20 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> ALL LIES!
2008-02-20 21:28 * Ceiling_Cat is writing a paper to prove it
2008-02-20 21:28 < Cyrius> ?
2008-02-20 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> Cyrius - I spent upwards of 500 man-hours trying to accelerate a list-sorting application with mitrion
2008-02-20 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> it was a misreable failure
2008-02-20 21:29 < uberpenguin> oh I hope you didn't use VHDL
2008-02-20 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> no, Mitrion
2008-02-20 21:29 < uberpenguin> that bastard ada dialect makes me cringe
2008-02-20 21:29 < uberpenguin> huh.. never used mitrion, just VHDL and Verilog
2008-02-20 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> although it would be interesting if someone wanted to do it in VHDL and Verilog
2008-02-20 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> (Mental note: Inquire with Kiamilev and find out if anyone there wants to do it)
2008-02-20 21:31 < uberpenguin> oh you and your crazy high performance computing
2008-02-20 21:31 < uberpenguin> whatever will you do when QCs replace all traditional paradigms?
2008-02-20 21:31 < Ceiling_Cat> oh god
2008-02-20 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - I won't hold my breath
2008-02-20 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> QC is like cold fusion - prepetually 20 years away
2008-02-20 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> it was 20 years away when I was born
2008-02-20 21:32 < uberpenguin> lies LIES
2008-02-20 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> it's still 20 years away
2008-02-20 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> and it'll be 20 years away when I retire
2008-02-20 21:32 < gwern> uberpenguin: I'll worry about QCs when they can factor three-digit numbers
2008-02-20 21:33 < uberpenguin> well, unlike cold fusion, quantum computers are generally considered possible and feasible
2008-02-20 21:34 < uberpenguin> though the possibility that they'll be able to displace traditional computing architectures is slim to none
2008-02-20 21:34 < uberpenguin> cryptologist's field day, though
2008-02-20 21:35 < bumm13> hiya uberpenguin
2008-02-20 21:36 < uberpenguin> ohio
2008-02-20 21:36 < nuba> uberpenguin: come on, a whole generation of non-deterministic algorithms is going to be developed
2008-02-20 21:36 < privatemusings> to ask a possibly foolish question - aren't today's computers already kinda like quantum computers in some ways?
2008-02-20 21:36 < privatemusings> as in the transistors etc. are so small that they operate on an 'electron
2008-02-20 21:36 < privatemusings> 'level
2008-02-20 21:36 < privatemusings> making them vulnerable to some quantum behaviour?
2008-02-20 21:37 * privatemusings looks bemused - is interested, but not really up to speed on this stuff....
2008-02-20 21:37 < nuba> uberpenguin: and a whollalot of problems now intractable will start being modelled and solved
2008-02-20 21:37 < uberpenguin> privatemusings: yes and no
2008-02-20 21:37 < Alkivar> I knew those MacBook Airs were going to be a problem
2008-02-20 21:37 < Alkivar> there seem to be an awful lot of threads on apple.com regarding poor battery life
2008-02-20 21:37 < Alkivar> http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1254
2008-02-20 21:37 < White_Cat> Alkivar
2008-02-20 21:37 < Alkivar> guarentee Apple kills this line off just like they did the G4 Cube
2008-02-20 21:38 < uberpenguin> nuba: but the liklihood that typical operations like, for example addition and multiplication, can be performed in a comparable time to deterministic classical architectures is unlikely
2008-02-20 21:39 < uberpenguin> you have to wait for enough iterations to assure some level of certainty, and it seems fairly likely that your humble 'ol deterministic computer will do it faster for most types of operations
2008-02-20 21:39 < nuba> uberpenguin: yeah, but if you look at the P vs NP issue, you'll see how there is much more there intractable than tractable
2008-02-20 21:39 < uberpenguin> in other words, go on a whistle and a dream ;)
2008-02-20 21:39 < White_Cat> Alkivar can you provide me some math assistance? :)
2008-02-20 21:39 < White_Cat> No I dont want you to do my homework
2008-02-20 21:40 < uberpenguin> privatemusings: quantum effects are heavily prevalent and widely exploited in microelectronics, however, a "quantum computer" is one which uses aspects of quantum mechanics for computation
2008-02-20 21:41 < Alkivar> yeah I guess
2008-02-20 21:41 < White_Cat> ...
2008-02-20 21:41 * White_Cat feels down
2008-02-20 21:41 < nuba> uberpenguin: guess his brain hit a bad sector
2008-02-20 21:41 < uberpenguin> I guess I'll have to repeat that...
2008-02-20 21:41 < Alkivar> assuming I can do the math in question :)
2008-02-20 21:41 < White_Cat> Alkivar well
2008-02-20 21:41 < privatemusings_> sorry - lost the internet for a mo...
2008-02-20 21:41 < nuba> uberpenguin: you gave him too much at once, he orgasmed ;)
2008-02-20 21:42 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Episodes_and_characters_2/Evidence/by_White_Cat#Statistical_analysis
2008-02-20 21:42 < uberpenguin> privatemusings: quantum effects are heavily prevalent and widely exploited in microelectronics, however, a "quantum computer" is one which directly utilizes quantum mechanical effects for computation
2008-02-20 21:42 < White_Cat> Alkivar I want to add more numbers there
2008-02-20 21:42 < privatemusings_> ah - got ya
2008-02-20 21:42 < privatemusings_> am looking at the wiki article too at the mo....
2008-02-20 21:42 < uberpenguin> although... eh... not so much in the CMOS paradigm
2008-02-20 21:42 < White_Cat> I dont know what I left out
2008-02-20 21:42 < privatemusings_> so are D-Wave kinda making it up then?
2008-02-20 21:42 < uberpenguin> in CMOS they tend to view quantum effects as parasitic, though there are some experimental novel structures which use quantum effects to an end
2008-02-20 21:43 < privatemusings_> they claim to have a 16 qubit working....
2008-02-20 21:43 < uberpenguin> I don't know enough about the subject to evaluate their claims... a physicsist friend of mine explained it once to me
2008-02-20 21:44 < uberpenguin> basically theirs is "sort of" a quantum computer
2008-02-20 21:44 < Alkivar> i dont think you need to... thats pretty convincing
2008-02-20 21:44 < uberpenguin> it has some big limitations
2008-02-20 21:44 < privatemusings_> does work in this field relate to neural networks at all?
2008-02-20 21:44 < uberpenguin> not very directly
2008-02-20 21:45 < privatemusings_> i see - this is bleeding edge 'not quite possible but maybe' physics.. in a way?
2008-02-20 21:45 < uberpenguin> haha... oh, one of my QM professors would constantly rant about quantum computers and how dumb he thought they were
2008-02-20 21:45 < White_Cat> Alkivar ah ok :P
2008-02-20 21:45 < White_Cat> I enjoyed comeing up with numbers like that
2008-02-20 21:45 < uberpenguin> it's not that quantum computing isn't possible, it's more that there are a lot of practical issues to deal with
2008-02-20 21:45 < White_Cat> Alkivar it isnt convincing enough if ani is an indication :/
2008-02-20 21:46 < uberpenguin> setting initial states, keeping lots of qubits entangled, connections
2008-02-20 21:46 < privatemusings_> coherance
2008-02-20 21:46 < uberpenguin> etc etc
2008-02-20 21:46 < privatemusings_> i would imagine that's a big problem (or rather a very small one....)
2008-02-20 21:48 < uberpenguin> mm hm
2008-02-20 21:49 < The359> figures
2008-02-20 21:49 < The359> I'm out taking pictures of the eclipse and my camera dies
2008-02-20 21:50 < privatemusings_> hey uber - just popped over to your talk page.....
2008-02-20 21:50 < privatemusings_> are you back editing at all?
2008-02-20 21:50 < uberpenguin> no
2008-02-20 21:50 < privatemusings_> i got banned a while back - but i'll be back next week....
2008-02-20 21:51 < uberpenguin> congrats
2008-02-20 21:51 < privatemusings_> still not into the politics stuff? - (let me know if you'd rather not chat about it...)
2008-02-20 21:52 < uberpenguin> I just got to the point where I viewed wikipedia editing as a waste of time, frankly
2008-02-20 21:52 < uberpenguin> there are better things I can do with that time
2008-02-20 21:53 < privatemusings_> i know what you mean - and I love the line "Matt further laments that nearly nobody else laments with him"
2008-02-20 21:53 < privatemusings_> !
2008-02-20 21:53 < privatemusings_> lamenters of the world unite
2008-02-20 21:53 < uberpenguin> ZE MOON! SHE IS GOBBLED UP BY ZE GREAT CELESTIAL FROG
2008-02-20 21:53 < privatemusings_> ooh eclipse time.....
2008-02-20 21:54 * bumm13 NP: Pink Floyd - Time (1973)
2008-02-20 21:54 < uberpenguin> good album...
2008-02-20 21:54 < bumm13> indeed :)
2008-02-20 21:54 < uberpenguin> i'm on a blues kick again
2008-02-20 21:54 < bumm13> cool
2008-02-20 21:54 < uberpenguin> albert king, just recently
2008-02-20 21:54 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-02-20 21:55 < bumm13> I'm not that familiar with him
2008-02-20 21:55 < uberpenguin> check him out sometime, he's great
2008-02-20 21:55 < privatemusings_> great guitarist....
2008-02-20 21:55 < privatemusings_> not related to BB (i think...)
2008-02-20 21:55 < uberpenguin> he was a big SRV influence
2008-02-20 21:56 < White_Cat> Alkivar: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration%2FEpisodes_and_characters_2%2FEvidence%2Fby_White_Cat&diff=192954284&oldid=192949815
2008-02-20 21:56 < uberpenguin> if you listen to SRV, you'll recognize some Albert King licks
2008-02-20 21:56 < White_Cat> I found something else to calculate :)
2008-02-20 21:56 < uberpenguin> and entire songs
2008-02-20 21:56 < privatemusings_> well he can't help who he influences........
2008-02-20 21:56 < privatemusings_> ;-)
2008-02-20 21:56 < White_Cat> %26.77 common edits
2008-02-20 21:56 < White_Cat> its ridiclous
2008-02-20 21:56 < privatemusings_> the wiki's gone stat.s made lately....
2008-02-20 21:56 < uberpenguin> he played some sessions with SRV before he died
2008-02-20 21:56 < privatemusings_> never seen so many numbers being crunched....
2008-02-20 21:57 < privatemusings_> well, a guy's gotta eat.... (ah, SRV's not that bad - just somehow not that 'real' for me...)
2008-02-20 21:57 < uberpenguin> well, he's blues-rock, not pure blues
2008-02-20 21:58 < White_Cat> privatemusings_ maybe he is a bot
2008-02-20 21:58 < uberpenguin> yeah, muddy waters and BB are more "real"
2008-02-20 21:58 < uberpenguin> but I still lurve me SRV
2008-02-20 21:58 < uberpenguin> his cover of little wing is one of my favorite songs of all time
2008-02-20 21:58 < privatemusings_> check out Albert Lee if you're a guitar purist at all....
2008-02-20 21:59 < uberpenguin> I don't play, so I have the liberty of just listening to what I like
2008-02-20 21:59 < privatemusings_> re the cover - you mean it's better than Sting's version?
2008-02-20 21:59 < privatemusings_> ;-)
2008-02-20 21:59 < uberpenguin> and I like 10-gage strings plucking out hendrix chops better than hendrix could
2008-02-20 22:00 < privatemusings_> ah it's not a competition really!
2008-02-20 22:00 < bumm13> SRV didn't have the sheer creative aura that Hendrix had, though
2008-02-20 22:00 < privatemusings_> but if it were.. Hendrix would win!!
2008-02-20 22:00 < uberpenguin> no, he didn't
2008-02-20 22:00 < uberpenguin> but he was a more talented guitarist, IMO
2008-02-20 22:00 < bumm13> but yes, he was a damn good player
2008-02-20 22:00 < uberpenguin> hendrix gets a lot of credit because he was extremely original and completely defined his own sound
2008-02-20 22:00 < bumm13> right, exactly
2008-02-20 22:00 < uberpenguin> there are plenty of better guitarists
2008-02-20 22:01 < uberpenguin> don't get me wrong, either, I love listening to hendrix
2008-02-20 22:01 < uberpenguin> but SRV's version of little wing is far better
2008-02-20 22:01 < privatemusings_> grant green baby....
2008-02-20 22:01 < bumm13> have you guys ever heard any of Link Wray's stuff?
2008-02-20 22:01 < uberpenguin> bumm13: a little
2008-02-20 22:02 < privatemusings_> best guitarist ever? - Charlie Christian......
2008-02-20 22:02 < bumm13> he was a big influence on guys like Pete Townshend and Jimmy Page
2008-02-20 22:02 < uberpenguin> now, you want to talk about people who completely defined their own sound, look at Django Reinhardt
2008-02-20 22:02 < bumm13> indeed
2008-02-20 22:02 < uberpenguin> that guy defined defined jazz guitar for pretty much the next century
2008-02-20 22:02 < privatemusings_> imagine if he'd had all his fingers...
2008-02-20 22:03 < privatemusings_> (but don't forget Charlie Christian....)
2008-02-20 22:03 < uberpenguin> he may have never developed his unique style
2008-02-20 22:03 < uberpenguin> I'm not familiar with him (Christian)
2008-02-20 22:03 < bumm13> me neither
2008-02-20 22:03 < privatemusings_> basically a bebop legend....
2008-02-20 22:03 < privatemusings_> charlie parker on guitar
2008-02-20 22:04 < privatemusings_> and died far far far too young
2008-02-20 22:04 < privatemusings_> you'd dig his stuff though
2008-02-20 22:04 < uberpenguin> charlie parker on guitar is intriguing
2008-02-20 22:04 < uberpenguin> though an interesting choice for comparison
2008-02-20 22:04 < uberpenguin> while we're at it, can you suggest a john coltrane on guitar? :P
2008-02-20 22:04 < privatemusings_> hmmm.....
2008-02-20 22:04 < privatemusings_> i'd go hendrix actually
2008-02-20 22:05 < privatemusings_> same energy for me....
2008-02-20 22:05 < uberpenguin> haha, I won't even begin to try and qualify or disqualify that
2008-02-20 22:05 < uberpenguin> we'll just leave it be
2008-02-20 22:06 < bumm13> now we just need a Dizzy Gillespie on guitar ;)
2008-02-20 22:06 < uberpenguin> you know, I may get flamed for this, but I really like duane allman's playing
2008-02-20 22:06 < uberpenguin> gillespie rocks
2008-02-20 22:06 < bumm13> Allman was damn good slide guitarist
2008-02-20 22:06 < uberpenguin> I listen to the famous jazz at massey hall album at least once every other month
2008-02-20 22:06 < privatemusings_> no - you gotta love the brothers...
2008-02-20 22:06 < privatemusings_> he's a great player
2008-02-20 22:06 < uberpenguin> yes, the brothers are cool too
2008-02-20 22:07 < bumm13> "Layla" is very-much overplayed, but I can always enjoy listening to Duane Allman's slide guitar work on that song
2008-02-20 22:07 < uberpenguin> favorite contemporary guitar player: Dan Auerbach
2008-02-20 22:07 < uberpenguin> <3
2008-02-20 22:08 < privatemusings_> re : massey hall - you've heard all the stories about that night?
2008-02-20 22:08 < uberpenguin> not on pure skill, but on style, sound, and raw emotion
2008-02-20 22:11 < zvook> i looked at trying to play a django song once, it was a depressing experience
2008-02-20 22:11 < zvook> he had melody within syncopations i would struggle to bang out on a drum
2008-02-20 22:11 < privatemusings_> yeah, the whole 'to begin, cut off half your fingers' is a little hard.....
2008-02-20 22:11 < privatemusings_> (joke!)
2008-02-20 22:11 < uberpenguin> haha, you think that's bad?
2008-02-20 22:12 < uberpenguin> once I tried to decipher how Gabriela of Rodrigo y Gabriela plays
2008-02-20 22:12 < gwern> on some lolcats, the picture is just so much better than the caption that even if it's good, you don't care: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/20/funny-pictures-pwning-ur-elders-ur-doin-it-right/
2008-02-20 22:12 < uberpenguin> can't... even with slowed down video
2008-02-20 22:12 < zvook> hehe uber
2008-02-20 22:12 < zvook> are they extremely good technically? i didn't realize but i suppose it makes sense
2008-02-20 22:12 < gwern> the picture is just perfectly timed
2008-02-20 22:12 < uberpenguin> they are extremely good technically
2008-02-20 22:13 < uberpenguin> their punctuation is amazing... I don't know of many bands which can start and stop as precisely as they
2008-02-20 22:13 < uberpenguin> duos, rather
2008-02-20 22:13 < privatemusings_> sometimes even solo acts have a problem with that......
2008-02-20 22:14 < uberpenguin> Rodrigo is a fairly skilled quick lead guitarist, but I think Gabriela's style is far more difficult to pull off
2008-02-20 22:14 < AzaTht> is Svalbard suspectable to earthquakes?
2008-02-20 22:14 < privatemusings_> and the winner of the random question award is.....
2008-02-20 22:14 < privatemusings_> i'd say yes
2008-02-20 22:15 < gwern> if it isn't, it should be
2008-02-20 22:15 < privatemusings_> http://www.eas.slu.edu/People/BJMitchell/TextPages/Svalbard.html
2008-02-20 22:15 < privatemusings_> i've been working on this for thirty years
2008-02-20 22:15 < privatemusings_> waiting for someone to ask......
2008-02-20 22:16 < AzaTht> they just had an 6.2
2008-02-20 22:16 < privatemusings_> as in literally, just?
2008-02-20 22:16 < AzaTht> 02:46:18 UTC
2008-02-20 22:17 < privatemusings_> ".. is traversed by several major north-south trending fault zones"
2008-02-20 22:17 < AzaTht> i.e. 30 min ago
2008-02-20 22:17 < privatemusings_> i know there's not many folk there, but hope they're all well etc.
2008-02-20 22:17 < AzaTht> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008nsag.php
2008-02-20 22:17 < AzaTht> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/20_75.php
2008-02-20 22:18 < uberpenguin> sweet...
2008-02-20 22:19 < uberpenguin> found a drawer of old 12AX7s and 12AT7s
2008-02-20 22:19 < uberpenguin> need to test them
2008-02-20 22:19 < Cyrius> AzaTht: if you click on maps, there's a seismic hazard map and a >=M5 quake density map
2008-02-20 22:19 < privatemusings_> uber : are we talking motherboards, or music?
2008-02-20 22:19 < McLoaf> Good nighthawk
2008-02-20 22:20 < bumm13> ok...
2008-02-20 22:20 < uberpenguin> the 12AX7 and 12AT7 are high-mu twin triode vacuum tubes
2008-02-20 22:20 < AzaTht> Cyrius: hmm
2008-02-20 22:20 < uberpenguin> the former is very common in guitar amps
2008-02-20 22:21 < Luna-San> Judging from the thumpin beats, somebody near me is having a party. I should go knock on their door and ask to celebrate the eclipse with em.
2008-02-20 22:21 < privatemusings_> uber : make an amp immediately....
2008-02-20 22:21 < uberpenguin> I'm working on a project which mainly uses medium-mu 12AU7s, but I may try to use 12AX7s in the output stage
2008-02-20 22:21 < CJMiller> hey all
2008-02-20 22:21 < privatemusings_> i'm sure you can find the other necessary bits and bobs somewhere.....
2008-02-20 22:21 < CJMiller> hi
2008-02-20 22:21 < privatemusings_> hi CJ
2008-02-20 22:22 < uberpenguin> I have made many an amplifier for various purposes
2008-02-20 22:22 < privatemusings_> but your project isn't an amp?
2008-02-20 22:22 < privatemusings_> a time machine!
2008-02-20 22:22 < CJMiller> Which is better for the Radeon 7000 on Server 2003, ATI or Omega drivers?
2008-02-20 22:23 < uberpenguin> it's a musical synthesizer known as a theremin
2008-02-20 22:23 < uberpenguin> ever see The Day the Earth Stood Still?
2008-02-20 22:23 < privatemusings_> ah the theremin....
2008-02-20 22:23 < privatemusings_> love it...
2008-02-20 22:23 < privatemusings_> have played with one extensively.....
2008-02-20 22:23 < privatemusings_> (but didn't build it)
2008-02-20 22:23 * quanticle just got back from watching the total lunar eclipse
2008-02-20 22:23 < uberpenguin> ah, well there you go
2008-02-20 22:24 < uberpenguin> I'm designing one with all vacuum tubes
2008-02-20 22:24 < CJMiller> Which is better for the Radeon 7000 on Server 2003, ATI or Omega drivers?
2008-02-20 22:24 < uberpenguin> not a single semiconductor in this thing
2008-02-20 22:24 < CJMiller> Sry for spamming -- accidental disconnect
2008-02-20 22:24 < Ashfire_Server> 3-7 mins seem right to total eclipse?
2008-02-20 22:24 < privatemusings_> I said I'm go Omega, CJ, but to be honest I'm just making it up.... sorry
2008-02-20 22:24 < uberpenguin> total eclipse has already passed...
2008-02-20 22:25 < Ashfire_Server> not here
2008-02-20 22:25 < FastLizard4> update from Southern California: Near total eclipse has been reached
2008-02-20 22:25 < quanticle> Yep. I saw the last bits of totality
2008-02-20 22:25 < quanticle> I'm in CST, btw
2008-02-20 22:25 < uberpenguin> wherever "here" is, it obviously sucks
2008-02-20 22:25 < Ashfire_Server> wisconsin here.
2008-02-20 22:25 < Ashfire_Server> (checks.....)
2008-02-20 22:26 < quanticle> CJMiller: I'd honestly say that it doesn't matter anymore. I remember when Omega drivers were provably more stable, but these days I'm not sure there's a difference.
2008-02-20 22:26 < CJMiller> EST: Mid-totality................... NOW!
2008-02-20 22:26 < CJMiller> Too cloudy to see, though
2008-02-20 22:27 < CJMiller> Hang on, gotta reboot to finish installing video card.
2008-02-20 22:27 < CJMiller> bye ~~~~
2008-02-20 22:28 < uberpenguin> privatemusings_: http://mattb.alwayssleeping.com/images/theremin_7.jpg
2008-02-20 22:28 < uberpenguin> that's roughly what it looks like at the moment
2008-02-20 22:28 < privatemusings_> getting there!
2008-02-20 22:28 < uberpenguin> there's just nothing like the panache of a glowing thermionic valve
2008-02-20 22:29 < privatemusings_> are you going for pitch against volume?
2008-02-20 22:29 < uberpenguin> of course, it's not a theremin without control of both
2008-02-20 22:29 < privatemusings_> on the axes, I mean
2008-02-20 22:29 < privatemusings_> sure - but you can mess with that as well
2008-02-20 22:30 < privatemusings_> we rigged one up to send MIDI info
2008-02-20 22:30 < privatemusings_> then programmed the sequencer to do all sorts of stuff
2008-02-20 22:30 < FastLizard4> Almost totality in So. California
2008-02-20 22:30 < uberpenguin> I'm not really interested in a digital interface... someone here built something like that a little while back
2008-02-20 22:31 < Leslie_S> omfg, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting
2008-02-20 22:31 < uberpenguin> plus I don't care much for programming
2008-02-20 22:31 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/21lessig.html?ref=us
2008-02-20 22:31 < Leslie_S> i didnt realize the falun gong thing was that crazy ;/
2008-02-20 22:31 < Ceiling_Cat> oh god let it happen
2008-02-20 22:31 < privatemusings_> it's just fun when it works, huh?
2008-02-20 22:31 < Ceiling_Cat> SAN FRANCISCO — Lawrence Lessig, the Web legal scholar, said Wednesday that he was mulling a campaign for the House of Representatives, a move that could pit the Internet icon in a race against a Democratic loyalist.
2008-02-20 22:31 < Ceiling_Cat> Mr. Lessig would run for the seat left vacant by the Feb. 11 death of Representative Tom Lantos, who represented the 12th District of California for nearly 14 terms. The district, south of San Francisco, runs straight through the heart of Silicon Valley, where Mr. Lessig is considered a celebrity, though one who wears glasses and uses phrases like “net neutrality.”
2008-02-20 22:32 < Ceiling_Cat> He has not specified under which party’s banner he might run. <-- LOL
2008-02-20 22:32 < Ceiling_Cat> as if we have to guess...
2008-02-20 22:32 < uberpenguin> it's a fun project
2008-02-20 22:32 < uberpenguin> I've never built anything with tubes before, so I thought it would be interesting
2008-02-20 22:32 < gwern> so how about that lunar eclipse
2008-02-20 22:32 < uberpenguin> old news... so ten minutes ago
2008-02-20 22:32 * quanticle wishes for once that he lived in CA
2008-02-20 22:32 < quanticle> gwern: It was awesome
2008-02-20 22:35 < Ashfire_Server> i must be like in some time machine, it's still going into the eclipse... barely, it's almost going back
2008-02-20 22:36 < privatemusings> so apparently ceiling cat is watching me read the topic!
2008-02-20 22:36 < privatemusings> I was wondering if that ever changed......
2008-02-20 22:37 < quanticle> Really? So apparently I haven't missed totality?
2008-02-20 22:37 * Ceiling_Cat watches privatemusings
2008-02-20 22:38 * privatemusings likes to be watched....
2008-02-20 22:38 < quanticle> Huh. I just went and looked, and for me the moon seems to be emerging from totality
2008-02-20 22:38 < quanticle> I'll check again in 10 minutes and see...
2008-02-20 22:39 < uberpenguin> oh. em. gee.
2008-02-20 22:39 < uberpenguin> they're remaking The Day the Earth Stood Still
2008-02-20 22:39 < uberpenguin> with Keanu Reeves
2008-02-20 22:39 < uberpenguin> I want to hurl
2008-02-20 22:39 < bumm13> :x
2008-02-20 22:40 < uberpenguin> why the hell do filmmakers think it's okay to remake old masterpieces?
2008-02-20 22:40 < uberpenguin> that would be like remaking The Manchurian Candidate... O WAIT
2008-02-20 22:40 < kushal_12_27_200> um ... because it is OK
2008-02-20 22:40 < quanticle> Hollywood hasn't had a good idea in decades
2008-02-20 22:40 < kushal_12_27_200> ?
2008-02-20 22:40 * Ceiling_Cat cuddles uberpenguin
2008-02-20 22:41 < uberpenguin> quanticle: untrue, but this recent rash of remakes-doomed-to-fail is sickening
2008-02-20 22:41 < bumm13> I agree 100%
2008-02-20 22:41 < uberpenguin> remakes are usually at a disadvantage, but picking fantastic movies as the subject only sets you up for utter fail
2008-02-20 22:41 < quanticle> What good original movie has hollywood made in the last 5 years?
2008-02-20 22:41 < uberpenguin> you said decades
2008-02-20 22:41 < quanticle> Okay, since 1990, then...
2008-02-20 22:41 < uberpenguin> you just shrunk your time frame a good bit
2008-02-20 22:42 < Luna-San> That's not true. The Doom movie wasn't a remake.
2008-02-20 22:42 < uberpenguin> I can think of several, enumerating them would be pointless
2008-02-20 22:42 < uberpenguin> stop distracting me, I need to get back to hating keanu reeves
2008-02-20 22:43 < uberpenguin> WHYYYY
2008-02-20 22:43 < uberpenguin> they're going to start remaking old spaghetti westerns now... I can just feel it
2008-02-20 22:43 < uberpenguin> it's not good enough for them to simply steal pieces of them, they're so desperate for ideas that we're going to see remakes of the Dollars trilogy
2008-02-20 22:44 < uberpenguin> same with Kurosawa
2008-02-20 22:44 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-20 22:44 < White_Cat> is it posible for you to know how many users from bali are editing wikipedia?
2008-02-20 22:45 < kushal_12_27_200> I think it is easy to find how many user identify themselves as being in Bali.
2008-02-20 22:46 < kushal_12_27_200> There must be a category for it.
2008-02-20 22:46 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-20 22:46 < White_Cat> I am looking for sockpuppets
2008-02-20 22:46 < kushal_12_27_200> cool
2008-02-20 22:46 < kushal_12_27_200> for what?
2008-02-20 22:46 < kushal_12_27_200> a poll?
2008-02-20 22:46 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Episodes_and_characters_2/Evidence/by_White_Cat#Real_identity_of_Jack_Merridew:_Could_it_be_Davenbelle.2FMoby_Dick
2008-02-20 22:51 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFofgDN1qiw&feature=related
2008-02-20 22:51 < Ceiling_Cat> Smash Bros Brawl online play :)
2008-02-20 22:52 < jerkface03> orly? it has online?
2008-02-20 22:52 < jerkface03> i might buy it then :X
2008-02-20 22:52 < uberpenguin> it has everything awesome in the world, ever
2008-02-20 22:52 < uberpenguin> you name something awesome, it has it
2008-02-20 22:52 < jerkface03> including crack cocaine?
2008-02-20 22:52 < uberpenguin> yes, lots
2008-02-20 22:52 < jerkface03> gangster.
2008-02-20 22:52 < uberpenguin> the ultra addictive kind
2008-02-20 22:54 < Ceiling_Cat> OMG
2008-02-20 22:54 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1XrldPzn8
2008-02-20 22:54 < Ceiling_Cat> WTF
2008-02-20 22:54 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-20 22:54 < White_Cat> will you answer my question?
2008-02-20 22:55 < Ceiling_Cat> Everyone go watch that now
2008-02-20 22:56 < jerkface03> I find that offensive
2008-02-20 22:56 < jerkface03> both as a wikipedian and a pedophile
2008-02-20 22:56 < Daniel_Bush> I don't have sound. Explain the joke to me.
2008-02-20 22:56 < Ceiling_Cat> pedophile picks up a girl
2008-02-20 22:56 < bumm13> uh, there's no joke, really
2008-02-20 22:57 < Ceiling_Cat> offers her licorice
2008-02-20 22:57 < Ceiling_Cat> she starts babbling off facts about it
2008-02-20 22:57 < Ceiling_Cat> he eventually kicks her out of the car
2008-02-20 22:57 < Ceiling_Cat> "Thanks Wikipedia.com!"
2008-02-20 22:57 < bumm13> (which isn't WP's domain name)
2008-02-20 22:57 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat so reading wikipedia articles saves your kid from pedos?
2008-02-20 22:57 < Ceiling_Cat> bumm13 - it is valid - it redirects to .org\
2008-02-20 22:57 < jerkface03> exactly.
2008-02-20 22:57 < White_Cat> what if she reads about beastality?
2008-02-20 22:57 < bumm13> well, technically :P
2008-02-20 22:58 < White_Cat> or about ted stevens
2008-02-20 22:58 < White_Cat> shed go into a coma
2008-02-20 22:58 < Daniel_Bush> ".com" is fast becoming a valid prefix in English meaning "a website"
2008-02-20 22:58 < White_Cat> DanielBush.com
2008-02-20 22:58 < quanticle> Well, to be fair, .net and .org have almost as much name recognition
2008-02-20 22:59 < White_Cat> http://danielbush.com/ <- it exists
2008-02-20 22:59 < Ceiling_Cat> Can someone please explain to me why searching youtube for "Wikipedia" yields this as the 3rd hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuR1WOvjMxo
2008-02-20 22:59 < quanticle> Especially .org, since most people grok that .org is for nonprofits
2008-02-20 22:59 < White_Cat> Daniel_Bush is that you?
2008-02-20 22:59 < Daniel_Bush> I'm not going there. Probably a porn site.
2008-02-20 22:59 < Daniel_Bush> I clicked anyway. No, it's not me.
2008-02-20 22:59 < White_Cat> no it isnt
2008-02-20 23:00 < White_Cat> Daniel_Bush I dont do porn dear
2008-02-20 23:00 < White_Cat> porn is a poor substitute
2008-02-20 23:00 < White_Cat> to editing wikipedia
2008-02-20 23:00 < White_Cat> <.<
2008-02-20 23:00 < quanticle> Hah. For a minute I thought you were going to say, "the real thing," and then I remembered that this was IRC
2008-02-20 23:01 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat!?
2008-02-20 23:01 < jerkface03> what does "doing porn" mean?
2008-02-20 23:01 < quanticle> making porn?
2008-02-20 23:01 < quanticle> jerking off to porn?
2008-02-20 23:01 < jerkface03> on
2008-02-20 23:01 < jerkface03> in that case i do porn about 7 times a day
2008-02-20 23:01 < jerkface03> usually by going to youpron
2008-02-20 23:01 < jerkface03> or even youporn
2008-02-20 23:02 < White_Cat> only 7 times a day?
2008-02-20 23:02 < White_Cat> weakling
2008-02-20 23:02 < quanticle> Wow, I can't believe we're having this dicussion...
2008-02-20 23:02 < jerkface03> White_Cat: yourself?
2008-02-20 23:02 < quanticle> Its always slightly creepy to have other people tell you about pron sites
2008-02-20 23:02 < White_Cat> I edit wikipedia not porn
2008-02-20 23:02 < jerkface03> what if you editted the wikipedia article on porn?
2008-02-20 23:03 < quanticle> Whoa...
2008-02-20 23:03 < jerkface03> A LEADS TO B LEADS TO C LEADS TO A
2008-02-20 23:03 < jerkface03> DEAL WITH IT!
2008-02-20 23:03 < bumm13> ...
2008-02-20 23:03 < FastLizard4|Food> Totality has come and gone in Southern California
2008-02-20 23:03 < Cyrius> totality comes and goes at more or less the same time everywhere
2008-02-20 23:04 < Cyrius> ...actually, not even more or less
2008-02-20 23:04 * Cyrius wasn't thinking about it quite clearly
2008-02-20 23:04 < FastLizard4> Well, that's the last total eclipse until 2010
2008-02-20 23:04 < Cyrius> total lunar eclipse
2008-02-20 23:04 < FastLizard4> right
2008-02-20 23:05 < Cyrius> there's a total solar eclipse in august
2008-02-20 23:05 < The359> US Navy 1
2008-02-20 23:05 < The359> Spy Satellite 0
2008-02-20 23:07 < The359> Successful destruction of the satellite
2008-02-20 23:09 < bumm13> hiya Krimpet
2008-02-20 23:09 < Krimpet> hello :)
2008-02-20 23:10 < researchsocial> Hi all
2008-02-20 23:11 < researchsocial> really thanks a lot total response for my survey on wiki went up by 22
2008-02-20 23:12 < Lucifer_Cat> researchsocial: what research and what survey?
2008-02-20 23:12 < researchsocial> if u believe in your IT skill, can you please help me do my wikipedia survey
2008-02-20 23:12 < Lucifer_Cat> what
2008-02-20 23:12 < researchsocial> becoz, looking for respondents with IT skills
2008-02-20 23:13 < researchsocial> http://www.my3q.com/home2/202/researchsocial/nuswiki.phtml
2008-02-20 23:13 < uberpenguin> I believe in my cured meats related skills, is that close enough?
2008-02-20 23:13 < Lucifer_Cat> *For best viewing, please use Internet Explorer 7, Western European(Windows) Encoding <--- FTL
2008-02-20 23:13 * Ceiling_Cat watches uberpenguin "cure" his meat
2008-02-20 23:13 < bumm13> Lucifer_Cat: lol
2008-02-20 23:13 < researchsocial> can work in firefox and others
2008-02-20 23:14 < researchsocial> it just that color change a bit for different browser
2008-02-20 23:14 < researchsocial> anyway IT skill is wat you think u process, not what you are qualified as
2008-02-20 23:15 < uberpenguin> delicious cured hams
2008-02-20 23:15 < uberpenguin> life would not be worth living in their absence
2008-02-20 23:15 < researchsocial> ....
2008-02-20 23:15 < nokmar> the quiz has weird english
2008-02-20 23:16 < researchsocial> yup it is a bit
2008-02-20 23:17 < Lucifer_Cat> how many Qs on there?
2008-02-20 23:17 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - 567,233
2008-02-20 23:17 < researchsocial> 41
2008-02-20 23:17 < researchsocial> ops
2008-02-20 23:17 < researchsocial> sorry wrong post
2008-02-20 23:17 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: lol
2008-02-20 23:18 < Lucifer_Cat> what will lucky draw get me?
2008-02-20 23:19 < researchsocial> i only have 3 1GB ipod shuffle
2008-02-20 23:19 < Lucifer_Cat> anyways i already submitted without details
2008-02-20 23:19 < researchsocial> got email
2008-02-20 23:19 < Lucifer_Cat> researchsocial: asking for wiki username = not cool
2008-02-20 23:19 < researchsocial> i know...
2008-02-20 23:19 < Lucifer_Cat> imho
2008-02-20 23:20 < researchsocial> forced by prof.
2008-02-20 23:20 * bumm13 coughs
2008-02-20 23:20 * Krimpet offers bumm13 some NyQuil
2008-02-20 23:21 * Ceiling_Cat spikes it with ruffies
2008-02-20 23:21 < researchsocial> once survet respondents reach 100 it ends
2008-02-20 23:21 < researchsocial> provided no one give me blanks....faint...sighz
2008-02-20 23:21 < quanticle> Its roofies, not ruffies
2008-02-20 23:21 < Krimpet> Ceiling_Cat: NyQuil is already potent enough <_<
2008-02-20 23:21 < quanticle> Get it right
2008-02-20 23:21 < researchsocial> need 28 more..
2008-02-20 23:22 < bumm13> sorry we can't help further
2008-02-20 23:22 < Lucifer_Cat> prof = evil wiki hating, scheming plotting planning wannabe wiki destroyer
2008-02-20 23:22 < Lucifer_Cat> imho
2008-02-20 23:22 < Krimpet> one swig of that green nectar, and you're in dreamland
2008-02-20 23:22 < researchsocial> i gtg for my lecture...
2008-02-20 23:22 < quanticle> Not really. I'm rather resistant to NyQuil, actually
2008-02-20 23:22 < researchsocial> anyone interested please go
2008-02-20 23:22 < researchsocial> http://www.my3q.com/home2/202/researchsocial/nuswiki.phtml
2008-02-20 23:22 < Krimpet> quanticle, that's too bad :(
2008-02-20 23:22 < Lucifer_Cat> lol green nectar
2008-02-20 23:23 < Lucifer_Cat> i've only had nyquil caps
2008-02-20 23:23 < Lucifer_Cat> i rather like cold meds though. even without the alcohol
2008-02-20 23:23 < Lucifer_Cat> syrups thatis
2008-02-20 23:23 < Krimpet> Lucifer_Cat: it tastes like Jägermeister
2008-02-20 23:23 < quanticle> Yeah, its somewhat unfortunate whenever I get a cold
2008-02-20 23:24 * quanticle has never had Jag
2008-02-20 23:24 < Lucifer_Cat> Krimpet: never heard of that
2008-02-20 23:24 < quanticle> Jagermeister?
2008-02-20 23:24 * Krimpet doesn't plan on mixing it with Red Bull anytime soon though...
2008-02-20 23:24 < quanticle> Its a rather famous liquor
2008-02-20 23:24 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Phaedriel/Soundtrack_of_Wikipedians wtf?
2008-02-20 23:24 < Lucifer_Cat> though im sure most cold meds taste the same
2008-02-20 23:24 < quanticle> Jag + Red Bull?
2008-02-20 23:24 < quanticle> Is that any good?
2008-02-20 23:24 < quanticle> I've heard good things about vodka + Red Bull
2008-02-20 23:25 < The359> Jagerbomb
2008-02-20 23:25 < Krimpet> quanticle: yeah, it's called a "Jager Bomb" round these parts. tastes like candy :)
2008-02-20 23:25 < quanticle> Oh. So that's what a Jagerbomb is...
2008-02-20 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: grew up in a dry state
2008-02-20 23:26 < quanticle> Utah?
2008-02-20 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> and anyways dont drink much other than vodka and tequila shots
2008-02-20 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: Gujarat.
2008-02-20 23:26 < quanticle> Oh. So you're a recent immigrant?
2008-02-20 23:27 * quanticle has been in the USA since the age of 6
2008-02-20 23:27 < Lucifer_Cat> who you calling an immigrant punk :P
2008-02-20 23:27 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah u told me that u came in when billy was being sworn in
2008-02-20 23:27 < Lucifer_Cat> technically im not an immigrant. here on a student visa.
2008-02-20 23:28 < quanticle> Ah. So you're planning on going back, or do you want to get an H-1 and stay here for a bit?

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