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2008-02-19 13:10 < Cyrius> =O
2008-02-19 13:11 < Demi> i've only read cat's cradle
2008-02-19 13:11 < Demi> which i really liked, so more is on my list
2008-02-19 13:11 < NotASpider> [[Bokononism]] is on afd
2008-02-19 13:15 < Ceiling_Cat> Possibly the most irritating sig on wikipedia:
2008-02-19 13:15 < Ceiling_Cat> ::::This is very, very important in the world, please add it.
2008-02-19 13:16 < Ceiling_Cat> -[[User:Lunakeet|Vulcan, Romulan, and Trill, not HUMAN!]] ([[User talk:Lunakeet|talk]]) 15:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
2008-02-19 13:16 < Ceiling_Cat> (and I say that as a trek fan0
2008-02-19 13:17 < NotASpider> unfortunately the article has excessive quotations. would it be adequate to just remove them from the current version? a couple people are saying it should be deleted and re-written from scratch due to copyright concerns
2008-02-19 13:17 < DannyLilithborne> I lol'ed at the controversy over that Baha'i Under the Covenanat guy
2008-02-19 13:17 < NotASpider> or maybe they just don't want there to be an article, and secretly hope nobody bothers re-writing
2008-02-19 13:17 < Demi> NotASpider - the afd isn't anything but a keep; personally i'm not a fan to references to fictional things like that
2008-02-19 13:18 < NotASpider> i have however never got a straight answer about old revisions containing "excessive fair use of text"
2008-02-19 13:18 < Demi> (in other words, bokononism as it relates to the work of fiction = good, an instruction manual for bokononism = less so)
2008-02-19 13:19 < DannyLilithborne> I bet there are people who actually follow that, no?
2008-02-19 13:19 < Demi> we usually don't worry about copyright violations in previous versions unless a complaint is made
2008-02-19 13:19 < NotACow> Demi: and then we kill the responsible parties?
2008-02-19 13:19 < NotASpider> [citation needed] might sound a little snarky, but is that written somewhere?
2008-02-19 13:19 < Demi> jupiter has too many moons
2008-02-19 13:20 < NotASpider> (most of them are larger than a bread box)
2008-02-19 13:21 < Demi> the smallest looks to be around one and a half billion metric tons
2008-02-19 13:22 < NotASpider> is krimpet in here or is it coincidence that the afd just closed
2008-02-19 13:22 < NotASpider> c.c
2008-02-19 13:22 < Demi> btw using "E+exponent" is an artifact of computery calculatory stuff and i don't think it should be used in articles
2008-02-19 13:23 < Demi> a couple of these moons are km across, i mean, come on
2008-02-19 13:24 < shimgray> don't worry, we're going to shoot some down. for, er, safety reasons. that'll reduce the clutter
2008-02-19 13:24 < Demi> shimgray - i hope so
2008-02-19 13:30 < Demi> apparently we don't like abbreviating bit as b
2008-02-19 13:33 * Miranda is wondering how other websites can make a commercial gain on wikipedia.
2008-02-19 13:33 < Cyrius> legally, or practically?
2008-02-19 13:34 < Miranda> practically
2008-02-19 13:35 < Demi> combine mirrored wikipedia data with other sources, make an agreement with google to service their define: queries, and serve ads
2008-02-19 13:36 * Cyrius looks at the scratches on his arm
2008-02-19 13:37 < Demi> interesting, under [[unit cancellation]] nor [[dimensional analysis]] do we cover the basic calculation technique used in introductory chemistry and physics
2008-02-19 13:38 < Demi> it's a necessary consequence of what's in [[dimensional analysis]] but it's really buried
2008-02-19 13:38 < Krimpet> Demi: [[Units conversion by factor-label]]?
2008-02-19 13:39 < NotACow> DEATH TO POOT
2008-02-19 13:39 < Demi> Krimpet - yes, that's it
2008-02-19 13:39 < Demi> but i would never have looked for it there
2008-02-19 13:39 < Krimpet> yeah, it's a weird name
2008-02-19 13:39 < NotACow> Demi: wikipedia is full of information that is impossible to find :)
2008-02-19 13:39 < NotACow> http://www.waysidegardens.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StoreCatalogDisplay?storeId=10151&mainPage=LGprodview&jspStoreDir=Wayside&ItemId=40239&catalogId=10151&langId=-1&cid=wem000677 <- want
2008-02-19 13:39 < Krimpet> I only found it by googling for "factor-label method"
2008-02-19 13:39 < Demi> i've never heard that term
2008-02-19 13:40 < NotACow> Demi: nor i
2008-02-19 13:40 < NotASpider> oh hi
2008-02-19 13:40 < Demi> wikipedia is obviously (something other than me)-centric
2008-02-19 13:40 < Krimpet> that's what they called it in my HS classes
2008-02-19 13:40 < NotACow> i don't remember my HS classes :)
2008-02-19 13:41 < Demi> we called it unit cancellation and my parents called it dimensional analysis
2008-02-19 13:41 < NotACow> Demi: unit cancellation sounds right to me
2008-02-19 13:41 < NotACow> Demi: but you and i are not that far apart
2008-02-19 13:41 < Demi> 2000 miles!
2008-02-19 13:42 < Demi> and, no doubt, some number of kilometers, but i don't remember how to convert them because i can't find it on wikipedia
2008-02-19 13:42 < NotACow> Demi: in years, not feet :)
2008-02-19 13:42 < Demi> oh, yes, this is true
2008-02-19 13:42 < Demi> i never did learn how to use a slide rule, though
2008-02-19 13:42 < NotACow> Demi: definitely more years between me and the average wikipedian than between you and me.
2008-02-19 13:42 < NotACow> Demi: ha, my father taught me when i was small
2008-02-19 13:42 < NotACow> Demi: i even used one on an exam once
2008-02-19 13:42 < NotACow> Demi: much to my calc prof's delight.
2008-02-19 13:43 < Krimpet> /exec -o perl -e 'print 2000 * 1.6'
2008-02-19 13:43 < Krimpet> 3200
2008-02-19 13:43 * Krimpet loves having computers do everything for her. :)
2008-02-19 13:43 < Demi> yes, i had a teacher in college who was frequent user, and he taught me once but it didn't stick
2008-02-19 13:43 < NotACow> * 3218.688
2008-02-19 13:43 < NotACow> / 0.0003106856
2008-02-19 13:43 < NotACow> /exec -o units "2000 mi" "km"
2008-02-19 13:44 < Ceiling_Cat> Krimpet - that is what secretaries were for back in the day
2008-02-19 13:44 < NotACow> -t would have been an improvement
2008-02-19 13:44 < NotACow> /exec -o units -t "2000 mi" "km"
2008-02-19 13:44 < NotACow> 3218.688
2008-02-19 13:44 < Demi> back in the day, that's what computers were for
2008-02-19 13:44 < Demi> and i mean the profession, not the electronic device
2008-02-19 13:44 < NotACow> Demi: yes, but back in the day, everyone used miles, not those newfangled french "kilometres"
2008-02-19 13:45 < Krimpet> NotACow: well, as a further improvement you could pipe it through figlet. ;)
2008-02-19 13:45 < NotACow> Krimpet: i'm not evil
2008-02-19 13:46 < NotACow> Krimpet: besides, figlet output always looks like crap on irc
2008-02-19 13:46 < Krimpet> yeah, I guess there's a fair amount of people using ugly non-monospaced fonts :p
2008-02-19 13:47 < NotACow> Krimpet: not to mention irc removes lreading spaces.
2008-02-19 13:47 < Leo_Johannes> Hi all Wikipedians!
2008-02-19 13:47 < NotACow> there's no wikipedians in here. please try next door.
2008-02-19 13:49 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 13:49 < WikiHelper> hi Sceptre
2008-02-19 13:49 < WikiHelper> bye!
2008-02-19 13:49 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 13:56 < artfullysick> All you distrust, all you say. All that you give, and all that you deal, all that you buy, beg borrow or steal.... All you create, all you destroy, all that you do, and all that you say. All that you eat, and everyone you meet, all that you slight, and everyone you fight...
2008-02-19 14:32 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-02-19 14:39 < NotACow> !admin more chat required, please talk
2008-02-19 14:39 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 14:39 < Fabexplosive> moooo
2008-02-19 14:39 < Riana|Sleep> scurvyyy
2008-02-19 14:39 < WikiHelper> stop using the admin command mooo moo :P
2008-02-19 14:40 < gdonato> WikiHelper: for some reason NotACow is exempt from the no excessive admin pings (or she thinks she is)
2008-02-19 14:41 < bumm13> that "command" doesn't universally ping admins, anyway
2008-02-19 14:41 < NotACow> there's no rule about "excessive admin pings"
2008-02-19 14:41 < NotACow> you're just making that up
2008-02-19 14:41 < gdonato> i am
2008-02-19 14:41 < WikiHelper> OK, here's a question.... it is a dark night, and it is raining... you are driving along the street in a 2 seater car and you pass a bus stop. At the Bus Stop there are 3 people: An old woman that is dying, a doctor who has saved your life once before and a man/woman whom you have loved since childhood. What do you do? Or who do you take?
2008-02-19 14:41 < gdonato> but still if someone comes in and goes ! admin ! admin ! admin they are likely to be removed
2008-02-19 14:42 < ST47> mmhmm
2008-02-19 14:42 * wimt just sets NotACow to "never highlight" :-p
2008-02-19 14:42 < ST47> Don't do the admin thing please
2008-02-19 14:42 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 14:42 < NotACow> ST47: wow a please
2008-02-19 14:42 < NotACow> ST47: you're the first person to ask even remotely nicely.
2008-02-19 14:42 < NotACow> ST47: everyone else makes threats.
2008-02-19 14:42 < gdonato> WikiHelper: tell themt o wait on the bus
2008-02-19 14:43 < gdonato> everyone is dying, i suppose, just a different smount of time
2008-02-19 14:43 < Demi> what do you mean dying?
2008-02-19 14:43 < NotACow> WikiHelper: i can't do the old woman any good, and besides there's a doctor right there.
2008-02-19 14:43 < Demi> it's not like it's a bad thing to stand at a bus stop in the rain
2008-02-19 14:43 < bumm13> coloring chicken eggs
2008-02-19 14:43 < WikiHelper> yeah but the doctor doesn't have any eqiupment
2008-02-19 14:44 < NotACow> WikiHelper: the other guy can just wait for the bus.
2008-02-19 14:44 < Demi> why should i stop for any of them? i'm a libertarian.
2008-02-19 14:44 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-19 14:44 < NotACow> so i doubt i'd even stop
2008-02-19 14:44 < WikiHelper> ok.. so what would you do? Who would you take?
2008-02-19 14:44 < DannyLilithborne> WikiHelper: screw 'em
2008-02-19 14:44 < WikiHelper> hehe
2008-02-19 14:44 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-02-19 14:44 < gdonato> reserving a seat for yourself is also advisable
2008-02-19 14:44 < WikiHelper> very nice you guys :P
2008-02-19 14:44 < DannyLilithborne> naw seriously
2008-02-19 14:44 < WikiHelper> :DD
2008-02-19 14:44 < Demi> the answer is you give the car to the doctor to take the old lady to a hospital and you have hot rain sex with the man-woman.
2008-02-19 14:45 < ST47> ...
2008-02-19 14:45 < WikiHelper> yep :O
2008-02-19 14:45 < DannyLilithborne> Demi's answer is quite reasonable
2008-02-19 14:45 < Demi> well, i've heard it before
2008-02-19 14:45 < WikiHelper> that was asked for a bank manager job in india... only one person said that :D
2008-02-19 14:45 < WikiHelper> there is no right or wrong answer however ;)
2008-02-19 14:45 < WikiHelper> not sure about the sex part though...
2008-02-19 14:45 < Demi> i'm paraphrasing
2008-02-19 14:45 < WikiHelper> I think stand with the man/woman is better :D
2008-02-19 14:46 < Demi> also, you have to go back and get the goat
2008-02-19 14:46 < gdonato> Demi: presumably the doctor can't drive cos he's waiting on a bus
2008-02-19 14:46 < WikiHelper> so any one else got any riddles?
2008-02-19 14:46 < WikiHelper> GDonato: perhaps the doctor lost car? :P
2008-02-19 14:46 < WikiHelper> etc etc.
2008-02-19 14:46 < gdonato> ...
2008-02-19 14:46 < gdonato> they are quite big
2008-02-19 14:46 < Demi> i drive a two-seater and pass people at bus stops all the time
2008-02-19 14:46 < DannyLilithborne> well, there's that one with the "count the f"s where most people miss the f's in "of"
2008-02-19 14:46 < WikiHelper> jacked?
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> done that one?
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> what about the one about the missing dollar?
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> A little bit of "flood" but here it is:
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> Three friends check into a motel for the night and the clerk tells them the bill is $30, payable in advance. So, they each pay the clerk $10 and go to their room. A few minutes later, the clerk realizes he has made an error and overcharged the trio by $5. He asks the bellhop to return $5 to the 3 friends who had just checked in. The bellhop sees this as an opportunity to make $2 as he...
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> ...reasons that the three friends would have a tough time dividing $5 evenly among them; so he decides to tell them that the clerk made a mistake of only $3, giving a dollar back to each of the friends. He pockets the leftover $2 and goes home for the day! Now, each of the three friends gets a dollar back, thus they each paid $9 for the room which is a total of $27 for the night. We know...
2008-02-19 14:47 < WikiHelper> ...the bellhop pocketed $2 and adding that to the $27, you get $29, not $30 which was originally spent. Where did the other dollar go????
2008-02-19 14:48 < WikiHelper> and don't cheat ;)
2008-02-19 14:48 < Demi> 0 = 0 // 0 = (1 + -1) + (1 + -1) + (1 + -1) + ... // 0 = 1 + (-1 + 1) + (-1 + 1) + ... // 0 = 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + ... / 0 = 1
2008-02-19 14:48 < Demi> i blew your mind!
2008-02-19 14:48 < WikiHelper> o.o
2008-02-19 14:48 < WikiHelper> o.O
2008-02-19 14:49 * Ceiling_Cat watches WikiHelper from above
2008-02-19 14:50 < WikiHelper> you guys are no fun ;)
2008-02-19 14:50 < sfullenwider> There is't an article on that refinery explosion yet?
2008-02-19 14:50 < WikiHelper> The facts in this riddle are clear: There is an initial $30 charge. It should have been $25, so $5 must be returned and accounted for. $3 is given to the 3 friends, $2 is kept by the bellhop - there you have the $5. The trick to this riddle is that the addition and subtraction are done at the wrong times to misdirect your thinking - and quite successfully for most. Each of the 3 friends...
2008-02-19 14:50 < WikiHelper> ...did indeed pay $9, not $10, and as far as the friends are concerned, they paid $27 for the night. But we know that the clerk will tell us that they were charged only $25 and when you add the $3 returned with the $2 kept by the bellhop, you come up with $30.
2008-02-19 14:51 < NotACow> sfullenwider: a refinery exploding is not notable. those things do that all the time.
2008-02-19 14:51 < NotACow> sfullenwider: it's not like it was a new anime release or something.
2008-02-19 14:52 < sfullenwider> are your insane?
2008-02-19 14:52 < dquestions> anyone here good with webdesign.. either pure graphics work (what we really need).. or php/mysql/ajax.. interested in doing a startup with a group of stanford students ..let me know.. it is quite heavy on a "socially responsible" theme but also plan to make money so PM me if interested
2008-02-19 14:52 < NotACow> sfullenwider: are my what insane?
2008-02-19 14:52 < sfullenwider> There is a new anime release?
2008-02-19 14:52 < bumm13> heh, a person can buy their very own spiral gumball machine for $350 retail (the large ones where the gumball spirals down toward the tray at the bottom)
2008-02-19 14:52 < NotASpy> sfullenwider: I may possibly agree, but I couldn't possibly comment :o
2008-02-19 14:53 < DannyLilithborne> WikiHelper: you have two cows
2008-02-19 14:53 < WikiHelper> would dquestions statement be classed as [[WP:SPAM]] :?
2008-02-19 14:53 < NotACow> WikiHelper: this isn't wikipedia, so no
2008-02-19 14:53 < NotACow> WikiHelper: wikipedia policies do not apply here
2008-02-19 14:53 < bumm13> it's damn close
2008-02-19 14:53 < NotACow> WikiHelper: and people who talk in CAPITALIZED GIBBERISH may be hit with sticks
2008-02-19 14:53 < WikiHelper> :D
2008-02-19 14:54 * bumm13 gives WikiHelper a large gumball
2008-02-19 14:54 < sfullenwider> http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/18/refinery.irpt/index.html
2008-02-19 14:54 * WikiHelper takes it and shuts up ;)
2008-02-19 14:55 < NotACow> sfullenwider: the wikipedia community doesn't care about exploding refineries. half of them don't even have licenses to drive a car, and a third probably don't know what a refinery is.
2008-02-19 14:55 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 14:55 < Demi> let alone a beef refinery
2008-02-19 14:55 * bumm13 simulates a 6-sided die throw
2008-02-19 14:56 < bumm13> 5
2008-02-19 14:56 < NotACow> FIVE BUMMS
2008-02-19 14:56 < bumm13> your gumball is "blue"
2008-02-19 14:56 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 14:56 < WikiHelper> NotACow: where did you get your figures from :?
2008-02-19 14:56 < WikiHelper> refinery: you mean like a sugar refinery to get rid of all of the horrible stuff and dirt in the sugar?
2008-02-19 14:57 < WikiHelper> or "refine"
2008-02-19 14:57 < Demi> i mean like a beef refinery, where crude beef is cracked to produce light, sweet beefs at the top and sludgy mcdonald's hamburger beefs at the bottom.
2008-02-19 14:58 < WikiHelper> oh yeah: we really need to know that ;)
2008-02-19 14:58 * Ceiling_Cat huggles WikiHelper
2008-02-19 14:58 * WikiHelper huggles back
2008-02-19 14:58 < NotACow> mmm, sweet light beef
2008-02-19 14:58 < NotACow> north dakota crude!
2008-02-19 15:02 < publunch> We are all dooooomed !!!
2008-02-19 15:03 < WikiHelper> why would that be?
2008-02-19 15:03 < Demi> the beef was contaminated at the refinery
2008-02-19 15:03 < mavhc> except the vegans
2008-02-19 15:04 < WikiHelper> and vegetarians :D
2008-02-19 15:04 < Demi> prions are turning people into zombies, starting with the brits
2008-02-19 15:04 < WikiHelper> hey!
2008-02-19 15:04 < Demi> they still have to deal with the meat eating zombies
2008-02-19 15:04 < WikiHelper> starting with users with the hostmark: /mode +b *!*Demi@wikipedia/Demi
2008-02-19 15:05 < WikiHelper> ;)
2008-02-19 15:06 < WikiHelper> *crickets*
2008-02-19 15:06 < Demi> well, i don't eat meat
2008-02-19 15:06 < Demi> i do have to deal with meat-eating zombies, however
2008-02-19 15:06 < Demi> i find a head shot is the only way to really destroy them
2008-02-19 15:06 < WikiHelper> hehe
2008-02-19 15:06 < WikiHelper> Demi: are you British then?
2008-02-19 15:06 < Demi> i am not
2008-02-19 15:06 < WikiHelper> American?
2008-02-19 15:07 < Demi> yes
2008-02-19 15:07 < WikiHelper> so you want the british to die first.... very nice :P
2008-02-19 15:07 < Demi> i am also not fictional, and larger than a breadbox
2008-02-19 15:07 < researchsocial> Hi, i m conducting a survey on wikipedians, with a focus on people who believe that they have good IT skill
2008-02-19 15:08 < WikiHelper> ok.....
2008-02-19 15:08 < researchsocial> if you are interested
2008-02-19 15:08 < rhinovirus> "This nickname is owned by someone else" :(
2008-02-19 15:08 < researchsocial> http://www.my3q.com/home2/202/researchsocial/nuswiki.phtml
2008-02-19 15:08 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 15:08 < WikiHelper> you could get it maybe... bumm13
2008-02-19 15:08 < WikiHelper> or not?
2008-02-19 15:08 < bumm13> that's alright :P
2008-02-19 15:08 < WikiHelper> :D
2008-02-19 15:08 < mavhc> I for one welcome our new zombi....braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnnnnnsssssssss
2008-02-19 15:09 < bumm13> ~--=<>
2008-02-19 15:09 * Demi lumbers
2008-02-19 15:09 < WikiHelper> no flooding!!! must eat mavhc's brain :O
2008-02-19 15:09 < NotACow> DEATH TO BRAINS!
2008-02-19 15:09 < mavhc> brain death to brains?
2008-02-19 15:10 < bumm13> this cold really sucks >:(
2008-02-19 15:10 < bumm13> O(-)O
2008-02-19 15:10 < WikiHelper> researchsocial: what is your en-wikipedia username?
2008-02-19 15:11 < mavhc> researchsocial: I don't really get question 5, it's all 3
2008-02-19 15:11 < geniice> yay uploaded first video from my new camera
2008-02-19 15:11 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_lamp#History
2008-02-19 15:11 * publunch 's username is publunch.
2008-02-19 15:11 < bumm13> "Amtrak will start randomly screening passengers' carry-on bags this week in a new security push that includes officers with automatic weapons and bomb-sniffing dogs patrolling platforms and trains."
2008-02-19 15:11 < Demi> they don't want someone driving a train into the pentagon
2008-02-19 15:12 < publunch> hey
2008-02-19 15:12 < bumm13> luckily, this will only affect about 200 people nationwide ;p
2008-02-19 15:12 < Demi> the cost of all that bullshit could really make a difference to amtrak, so it makes me sad :(
2008-02-19 15:13 < bumm13> if police don't morph into paramilitaries, the teh-rists will win!
2008-02-19 15:14 < publunch> muddypaws likes frogs, but not as much as rodents.
2008-02-19 15:14 < Demi> we should put bomb-sniffing dogs and armed guards in fricking vans before putting them on trains
2008-02-19 15:14 < Manetho_> WikiHelper: did you go to the URL?
2008-02-19 15:14 < WikiHelper> yes
2008-02-19 15:15 < Lycurgus> well?
2008-02-19 15:15 < Lycurgus> bullshit or noble thing?
2008-02-19 15:15 < DannyLilithborne> is it considered a death threat to tell someone "die in a fire"?
2008-02-19 15:15 < WikiHelper> hmm... the user says IP editing... collects a lot of personal information
2008-02-19 15:15 < mavhc> researchsocial: can't we tell you our address after we've won?
2008-02-19 15:15 < WikiHelper> DannyLilithborne: probably
2008-02-19 15:15 < DannyLilithborne> aww:(
2008-02-19 15:16 < researchsocial> can
2008-02-19 15:16 < bumm13> yay!
2008-02-19 15:16 < WikiHelper> mavhc: Wikipedia Headquarters XD
2008-02-19 15:16 < bumm13> "Niehaus, a fixture in the Seattle Mariners' booth since they entered the American League as an expansion franchise in 1977, was named the 2008 winner of the Ford C. Frick Award Tuesday and will be honored at the Hall of Fame Induction Ceremonies July 27 at the Clark Sports Center in Cooperstown, N.Y."
2008-02-19 15:16 < researchsocial> it is just for convenience
2008-02-19 15:16 < bumm13> (Seattle Mariners announcer Dave Niehaus)
2008-02-19 15:17 < researchsocial> it is 4 am singapore...yawns..
2008-02-19 15:17 < WikiHelper> :O I can't copy text from that links
2008-02-19 15:17 < mavhc> damn you round earth!
2008-02-19 15:17 * Lycurgus suspects it's somebodies doctoral or masters research.
2008-02-19 15:18 < WikiHelper> researchsocial: will the ipod shuffle be split in to thirds or will there be one each ;)
2008-02-19 15:18 < Lycurgus> so somewhere between noble and hack
2008-02-19 15:18 < Demi> i went to a grocery store recently and they were giving away ipod shuffles to like every tenth person
2008-02-19 15:18 < researchsocial> ...
2008-02-19 15:19 < researchsocial> actually is 3 ipod shuffle for each surveys
2008-02-19 15:19 < Lycurgus> yeah, I helped a friend do one for her phd project and we discussed hou hou have to give people a treat or they won't participate
2008-02-19 15:19 * Ceiling_Cat huggles NotAHuggler
2008-02-19 15:19 < researchsocial> but the rest of my surveys are on youtube, programming forums and stomp forums
2008-02-19 15:19 < mavhc> are you biasing your results by asking wikipedia irc users?
2008-02-19 15:19 < researchsocial> metacafe and break
2008-02-19 15:19 < researchsocial> no
2008-02-19 15:20 < WikiHelper> mavhc hehe
2008-02-19 15:20 < Lycurgus> I found that especially disappointing and or stupid and or confirmatory that the Academe is a snake-pit of mediocrity
2008-02-19 15:20 < WikiHelper> probably because the user will get a warning and maybe a ban for spamming on wikipedia ;)
2008-02-19 15:20 < researchsocial> becoz..i only need a 40 more respondents to be exact
2008-02-19 15:20 < WikiHelper> so how many have you got?
2008-02-19 15:20 < researchsocial> once hit 100 the survey stop
2008-02-19 15:20 < WikiHelper> so 60 wikipedians?
2008-02-19 15:20 < researchsocial> 53 + 9
2008-02-19 15:20 < researchsocial> now
2008-02-19 15:21 < WikiHelper> ok
2008-02-19 15:21 < Lycurgus> I think she gave everybody something. You might try that.
2008-02-19 15:21 < researchsocial> but so people give me blanks...sights
2008-02-19 15:21 < WikiHelper> did you ask users only through IRC? Or Email and on the actual Wikipedia as well?
2008-02-19 15:21 < researchsocial> both
2008-02-19 15:21 < Lycurgus> (she got hundreds of responses on a questionnaire longer than yours)
2008-02-19 15:22 < WikiHelper> researchsocial: can you provide links to these asking on users on Wikipedia?
2008-02-19 15:22 < researchsocial> i just got the provisional permission on wikipedia
2008-02-19 15:22 < WikiHelper> do you have links to prove that?
2008-02-19 15:22 < Lycurgus> (and the target population was university tenured staff)
2008-02-19 15:22 < Demi> attractive people in person can get people to do all kinds of surveys
2008-02-19 15:22 < Lycurgus> Amen
2008-02-19 15:23 < Lycurgus> brang on teh Seckys peeples
2008-02-19 15:23 < researchsocial> ??what is provide to these asking on users on wikipedia
2008-02-19 15:23 < mavhc> demi: so on the internet a completed survey should be rewarded with free porn?
2008-02-19 15:24 < researchsocial> .....
2008-02-19 15:24 < Lycurgus> <- only sticking around long enough to see porn go mainstream.
2008-02-19 15:24 < Demi> mavhc - i just mean that, when you're asking someone face to face, attractiveness has a huge amount to do with people's response
2008-02-19 15:24 < Ceiling_Cat> mavhc - there's one problem with that idea. Apparently gay men are the largest consumers of pornography
2008-02-19 15:25 < Ceiling_Cat> so rewarding survey takers with porn biases the sample
2008-02-19 15:25 < Demi> Ceiling_Cat - i disagree; on average, the gay men i know are not as fat as their straight counterparts
2008-02-19 15:25 < WikiHelper> researchsocial: basically some links, like the one you provided to your questionaire on the English Wikipedia such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main Page that proves you have consent to do this from Wikipedia and that you asked users on the actual wikipedia itself
2008-02-19 15:25 < Lycurgus> is that so? Would partially explain why it's better developed.
2008-02-19 15:25 < Lycurgus> talk bout your, ah, "invisible hand"
2008-02-19 15:25 < researchsocial> i got consent from wiki to send email
2008-02-19 15:26 < WikiHelper> do you have proof of this consent?
2008-02-19 15:26 < WikiHelper> on the internet?
2008-02-19 15:26 < NotACow> researchsocial: a wiki is unable to give consent.
2008-02-19 15:26 < WikiHelper> which user gave you this supposed *consent* ?
2008-02-19 15:26 < Lycurgus> so is researchsocial guilty of statutory rape?
2008-02-19 15:26 < NotACow> researchsocial: wikis are software, lacking free will.
2008-02-19 15:27 < Lycurgus> *statutory span
2008-02-19 15:27 < researchsocial> Wesley Northrop
2008-02-19 15:27 < NotACow> and mediawiki isn't 18 years old
2008-02-19 15:27 < Lycurgus> m
2008-02-19 15:27 < NotACow> in any case
2008-02-19 15:27 < mavhc> now you're just picking on researchsocial
2008-02-19 15:27 < geniice> true but
2008-02-19 15:27 < NotACow> mavhc: that's my job!
2008-02-19 15:28 < DannyLilithborne> what's the template you use on an article that is autobiographical?
2008-02-19 15:28 < geniice> {{subst:prod|whatever?}}
2008-02-19 15:28 < DannyLilithborne> lol
2008-02-19 15:28 < DannyLilithborne> :\
2008-02-19 15:28 < WikiHelper> {{AB}} ?
2008-02-19 15:28 < DannyLilithborne> [[David William Lane Greer]]
2008-02-19 15:28 < Lycurgus> what you should do RS is browse the userspace by IT category and personally leave an invite in the users talk pages
2008-02-19 15:29 < DannyLilithborne> nah, it's not AB
2008-02-19 15:29 < researchsocial> tried that no one visit
2008-02-19 15:29 < Lycurgus> your invites must have been inept
2008-02-19 15:29 < researchsocial> ok...
2008-02-19 15:29 < Lycurgus> or your expected response ration unrealistic
2008-02-19 15:29 < Lycurgus> *ratio
2008-02-19 15:30 < researchsocial> 100 only...
2008-02-19 15:30 < Lycurgus> and not a single respondent?
2008-02-19 15:30 < researchsocial> 63 now
2008-02-19 15:31 < researchsocial> reach 100 ...i closed it...
2008-02-19 15:31 < Lycurgus> that appears to be a 60 percent response rate but I've lost interest, so carry on.
2008-02-19 15:32 < NotACow> DEATH TO SURVEYORS
2008-02-19 15:32 < researchsocial> .....
2008-02-19 15:32 < Lycurgus> (60% is very good btw)
2008-02-19 15:33 < researchsocial> thks
2008-02-19 15:34 < researchsocial> sorry gtg..getting too sleepy 4:30 am in Singapre
2008-02-19 15:35 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 15:35 < WikiHelper> NotACow: you are very welcoming ;)
2008-02-19 15:35 < NotACow> WikiHelper: i do try
2008-02-19 15:36 < WikiHelper> :D
2008-02-19 15:36 < Lycurgus> I wan't to do that but you know, one has to maintain a certain decorum.
2008-02-19 15:36 < NotACow> Lycurgus: why?
2008-02-19 15:36 < Lycurgus> otherwise I'd a totally gone off on the motherfucker myself
2008-02-19 15:36 < WikiHelper> are you the same as NotAChristmasCow ?
2008-02-19 15:37 < Lycurgus> NotACow: noblesse oblige
2008-02-19 15:37 < NotACow> Lycurgus: that's so totally dead.
2008-02-19 15:38 < Lycurgus> I'm bringing it back.
2008-02-19 15:38 < NotACow> Lycurgus: dear god, why?
2008-02-19 15:38 < WikiHelper> bringing what back o.o
2008-02-19 15:38 < NotACow> WikiHelper: stupidity!
2008-02-19 15:38 < WikiHelper> lol
2008-02-19 15:39 < Lycurgus> duh, like Fung Yu Lan says: "Kinglyness without, Sagelyness within"
2008-02-19 15:39 < Lycurgus> civility is not stupidity. Well maybe in Skankcorea, but not in general.
2008-02-19 15:40 < Lycurgus> and that person was from Singapore and could have been ethnic Han
2008-02-19 15:42 < WikiHelper> I think the user is going to use those details to send out to all his spammer friends... and the oversights will have a bad time removing it
2008-02-19 15:43 < Lycurgus> I'll be back.
2008-02-19 15:44 < WikiHelper> :D
2008-02-19 15:46 < WikiHelper> how new do you class new WikiProjects? A month old is still new?
2008-02-19 15:48 < geniice> depends on the level of activity but generaly yes
2008-02-19 15:50 < WikiHelper> can you guys add http://www.wikipedia.org to the topic like in #wikipedia-en ?
2008-02-19 15:53 < IceKarma> ... what possible useful purpose would that serve?
2008-02-19 15:53 < WikiHelper> what useful purpose does it serve in #wikipedia-en is the question ;)
2008-02-19 15:54 < geniice> no topic is already too long
2008-02-19 15:54 < WikiHelper> hehe: you should see #wikipedia-en :O
2008-02-19 15:55 * IceKarma is now tempted to join #wikipedia-en and call for its removal :P
2008-02-19 15:56 < Sceptre> already done
2008-02-19 15:56 < WikiHelper> IceKarma: you wouldn't get anywhere ;)
2008-02-19 15:56 < WikiHelper> :O
2008-02-19 16:01 < WikiHelper> dandin1: nice comment in #wikipedia-en
2008-02-19 16:07 < dandin1> :p
2008-02-19 16:07 < dandin1> IRC topic tourism.
2008-02-19 16:08 < mavhc> travel the world they said, meet interesting people they said, then they gave me an irc client and locked me in a room for 8 years
2008-02-19 16:09 < dandin1> hehehe
2008-02-19 16:21 < NotACow> MEEP
2008-02-19 16:21 * NotACow threatens to ping the admins again if there is not more witty repartee in here soon
2008-02-19 16:31 < RobJ1981> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2007_Hugo_Award_for_Best_Dramatic_Presentation%2C_Short_Form should this be put up for deletion? It's just a category for nominees for an award
2008-02-19 16:41 < mt-i> hey there; I'm working on a bot project using perlwikipedia, and I'm hitting a bizarre stumbling block: committing an edit on any page containing an external URL seems to fail silently
2008-02-19 16:42 < mt-i> is this an antispam measure on mediawiki's part?
2008-02-19 16:42 < mt-i> (and if so, is there a workaround?)
2008-02-19 16:42 < Demi> a URL you added? can you make the same edit by hand?
2008-02-19 16:42 < Demi> some pages are basically uneditable because links on them are now blacklisted
2008-02-19 16:45 < mt-i> aaaah, it's not a problem of blacklist (I'm trying to just copy an existing page to a sandbox in the bot's userspace)
2008-02-19 16:46 < mt-i> but maybe it's just a problem with the bot account being too recent?
2008-02-19 16:46 < Demi> does the page already exist?
2008-02-19 16:46 < mt-i> yes
2008-02-19 16:47 < mt-i> but you're right: when logged as the bot, I'm asked to fill in a captcha to add an external link
2008-02-19 16:47 < mt-i> i'll try to run the script as my user account to check
2008-02-19 16:48 < Demi> oh interesting
2008-02-19 16:49 < mt-i> it works! :)
2008-02-19 16:49 < Demi> \o/
2008-02-19 16:49 < mt-i> thanks!
2008-02-19 16:50 < Monobi> Hola
2008-02-19 16:52 < NotACow> yucca!
2008-02-19 16:52 < Demi> delicioso!
2008-02-19 16:54 < NotACow> FUNICULI!
2008-02-19 16:54 < Demi> my son says that all the time, i think he got it from dora's backpack
2008-02-19 16:55 < Demi> he tells me about all the spanish he knows sometimes
2008-02-19 16:55 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-19 16:55 < [NL]Thoth> nvm, ame in all channels (Dutch)
2008-02-19 16:56 < Mike_H> Demi: that's so cute :>
2008-02-19 16:56 < Mike_H> I learned some when I did babysitting in high school
2008-02-19 16:56 < Mike_H> and I had to put in a Dora tape for the kid I was babysitting
2008-02-19 16:56 < Mike_H> and I was like
2008-02-19 16:56 < Mike_H> oh, that's how you say open the door in Spanish
2008-02-19 16:56 < Mike_H> educational.
2008-02-19 16:57 < bumm13> ¿Se dige sobre todos el español sabe a veces? ;)
2008-02-19 16:59 * bumm13 forgot that "door" is "puerta" :(
2008-02-19 16:59 < Demi> Mike_H - i think they learn a little in preschool as well
2008-02-19 17:01 < Mike_H> oh, we never did
2008-02-19 17:01 < Mike_H> but then again
2008-02-19 17:01 < Mike_H> I was in preschool in what
2008-02-19 17:01 < Mike_H> 1989
2008-02-19 17:01 < Mike_H> 1990
2008-02-19 17:02 < Demi> i don't think we did either, but i have few memories of preschool
2008-02-19 17:02 < Demi> i remember walking to a park to go to a wading pool, wearing a towel with a hole cut in the center
2008-02-19 17:02 < Demi> and a few other things like that
2008-02-19 17:03 < buss> I'm not sure if this is the proper place to report this, but it seems that srv43 (and only srv43, as far as I can tell) is serving up some vandalism on the Hinduism page
2008-02-19 17:03 < buss> it's locked, so I can't fix it
2008-02-19 17:03 < buss> but I find it rather odd that only srv43 is returning the vandalized page
2008-02-19 17:03 < Demi> buss - have you tried appending ?action=purge or &action=purge to the URL?
2008-02-19 17:04 < bumm13> I have some memories of preschool (I was 5½ then)
2008-02-19 17:04 < bumm13> well, 5
2008-02-19 17:04 < NotACow> Mike_H: that's scary
2008-02-19 17:04 < bumm13> I had a rather bad temper, it seems :x
2008-02-19 17:05 < NotACow> Mike_H: in 1989 i was a sophomore in college.
2008-02-19 17:05 < OverlordQ> i was 5
2008-02-19 17:05 < buss> Demi: that got me to request it from a different server (and getting the actual, non-vandalized page), but srv43 may still be returning that to some users, no?
2008-02-19 17:05 < bumm13> seems like we got apple juice frequently
2008-02-19 17:06 < Demi> buss - you might mention it in #wikimedia-tech, to see if there's something wrong with the squid there or something
2008-02-19 17:06 < buss> Demi: ok, thanks I'll head there now
2008-02-19 17:06 < bumm13> I remember some kid had a Star Wars X-Wing toy or something
2008-02-19 17:06 < NotACow> BAD SQUID
2008-02-19 17:06 < NotACow> CALAMARI FOR DINNER!
2008-02-19 17:07 < Sceptre> ACALAMARI?
2008-02-19 17:07 < bumm13> (this was in 1985)
2008-02-19 17:07 < Demi> i was a junior at university in 1989, sort of
2008-02-19 17:07 < Demi> in the sense that it was my third year in college
2008-02-19 17:08 < bumm13> I think the old video store in my hometown opened in 1984 or '85
2008-02-19 17:09 < geniice> you people are old
2008-02-19 17:09 < Demi> better than the alternative
2008-02-19 17:09 < Demi> i dropped out of university at the beginning of an "extra" year in 1990 and went back in 93, graduated in 94
2008-02-19 17:11 < bumm13> Demi: my oldest cousin was in the (HS) class of 1988
2008-02-19 17:11 < Demi> i was in the class of 88 but exited high school in 86
2008-02-19 17:13 < bumm13> you ran away! ;)
2008-02-19 17:13 < Demi> into the cuddly arms of the nearest community college
2008-02-19 17:13 < NotACow> Demi: huh, you're younger than i am?
2008-02-19 17:13 < Demi> i believe i am
2008-02-19 17:13 * NotACow was class of 1987
2008-02-19 17:13 < Demi> i skipped two grades as a young 'un, and did the aforementioned early exit maneuver
2008-02-19 17:14 < NotACow> Demi: so, yeah, you is.
2008-02-19 17:14 * NotACow feels even older.
2008-02-19 17:14 < Demi> i was always pretty cantankerous, though, so that qualifies
2008-02-19 17:14 < NotACow> for some reason i had you down as a fellow child of the sixties
2008-02-19 17:14 * Mike_H is the weird one with really old siblings
2008-02-19 17:14 < Mike_H> one is NotACow's age
2008-02-19 17:14 < Mike_H> and one is Demi's age
2008-02-19 17:14 < Demi> not quite, though my peer group for obvious reasons was always older
2008-02-19 17:14 < Demi> and my wife was born in 66
2008-02-19 17:14 < NotACow> Demi: that might be it
2008-02-19 17:14 < Mike_H> NotACow: Demi was born in '72
2008-02-19 17:15 < NotACow> ah, the last presidential election i don't remember :)
2008-02-19 17:16 < Demi> the first aspect of the wider world i remember is probably the bicentennial
2008-02-19 17:16 < Mike_H> the first news event I remember is the fall of the Berlin Wall
2008-02-19 17:16 < bumm13> hmm, you can own your very own 1950s-era mechanical/hydraulic horse ride for only $3200!
2008-02-19 17:16 < Demi> and the first presidential election was '80, though i remember carter and i remember ford, a little bit
2008-02-19 17:16 < NotACow> "# February 19 - A stand off five Japanese United Red Army and many Japanese police, riot controller begin taking the 31 years-old wife has hostarged lodge house at Karuizawa, Japan, where continue to ten days." <- what does that mean?
2008-02-19 17:16 < Demi> bumm13 - like a coin operated one?
2008-02-19 17:16 < Mike_H> The first presidential election I remember was '92
2008-02-19 17:17 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-19 17:17 < Mike_H> we had a class election in first grade.
2008-02-19 17:17 < Mike_H> I voted for Perot.
2008-02-19 17:17 < NotACow> Demi: i remember watching the democratic nominating convention in '76
2008-02-19 17:17 < Sceptre> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44437000/jpg/_44437628_ruderbill_two203.jpg
2008-02-19 17:17 < NotACow> Demi: just a bit of it
2008-02-19 17:17 < NotACow> Mike_H: everyone in my second grade class voted for Ford, like good Christians.
2008-02-19 17:18 < Mike_H> NotACow: Well, if my first grade class would be believed, Bush would have won a second term.
2008-02-19 17:18 < Mike_H> But only by a small margin.
2008-02-19 17:18 < bumm13> "Vintage Coin Operated Carousel Kiddie Ride Restored"
2008-02-19 17:18 < Demi> Mike_H - it was the economy, brats
2008-02-19 17:18 < bumm13> (apparently had a low reserve price)
2008-02-19 17:18 < NotACow> that bit of gibberish i just posted is from [[1972]], btw
2008-02-19 17:18 < NotACow> i didn't write it
2008-02-19 17:19 < Demi> NotACow - i have no idea. like, it almost means something about a hostage situation... and then doesn't
2008-02-19 17:19 < Mike_H> A stand off five Japanese United Red Army and many Japanese police, riot controller begin taking the 31 years-old wife has hostarged lodge house at Karuizawa, Japan, where continue to ten days."
2008-02-19 17:19 < Mike_H> Yeah, I don't know
2008-02-19 17:19 < Mike_H> the Japanese United Red Army is a neo-feudalist organization though
2008-02-19 17:19 < Demi> they're known for hostarging, i guess
2008-02-19 17:19 < bumm13> wonderful :P
2008-02-19 17:19 < Mike_H> in the 1970s a rise of neo-feudalism occurred, in which they wanted Japan to close off its borders and return to pre-1868 government.
2008-02-19 17:19 < Mike_H> it still exists in Japan but it's very marginal.
2008-02-19 17:19 < bumm13> sounds marginal
2008-02-19 17:20 < Demi> they were heavily influenced by james clavell's shogun
2008-02-19 17:20 < Mike_H> Demi: Wouldn't you be? That Dr. Kildare was so dreamy!
2008-02-19 17:20 < NotACow> Demi: i'm sure it was a very interesting situation, and i can't figure out what the hell it was about from that text.
2008-02-19 17:20 < NotACow> the word "hostarged" is new to me
2008-02-19 17:21 < Mike_H> The Asama-Sanso incident (ja: �����܎R������) was a hostage crisis and police siege in a mountain lodge near Karuizawa, Nagano prefecture, Japan that lasted from February 19, 1972 to February 28, 1972. The police rescue operation on the final day of the standoff was the first marathon live broadcast in Japan, lasting 10 hours and 40 minutes.
2008-02-19 17:21 < Mike_H> The incident began when five members of the United Red Army, following a bloody purge that left twelve members of the group dead, broke into the holiday lodge below Mount Asama, taking the wife of the lodge-keeper as a hostage.
2008-02-19 17:21 < Mike_H> A standoff between police and the United Red Army took place, lasting ten days.
2008-02-19 17:21 < Mike_H> There, that's the event
2008-02-19 17:21 < Mike_H> written in crisp clear English.
2008-02-19 17:23 < Mike_H> NotACow: and apparently I got this group mixed up with another group
2008-02-19 17:23 < Mike_H> the Red Army was basically a communist group.
2008-02-19 17:23 < LordMetroid> `nuckk why ban me?
2008-02-19 17:23 < Demi> neo-feudalism sounds more interesting
2008-02-19 17:24 < Mike_H> Demi: Japan does have neo-feudalist groups, just that wasn't one of them
2008-02-19 17:24 < Aqwis3> the US is governed by a neo-feudalist group ;(
2008-02-19 17:25 < ggreer> united red army? wtf
2008-02-19 17:25 < Demi> http://www.avclub.com/content/videocracy/4420 <- this is entirely predictable, yet still amusing. or maybe it's amusing because predictable.
2008-02-19 17:27 < ggreer> Q. Why does the heat of the sun provoke sneezing, and not the heat of the fire?
2008-02-19 17:27 < ggreer> A. Because the heat of the sun doth dissolve, but not consume, and therefore the vapour dissolved is expelled by sneezing; but the heat of the fire doth dissolve and consume, and therefore doth rather hinder sneezing than provoke it.
2008-02-19 17:27 < ggreer> hah, nice one aristotle
2008-02-19 17:28 < ggreer> way to not know about photic sneezing
2008-02-19 17:31 < NotACow> photic sneezing?
2008-02-19 17:33 < NotACow> whee!
2008-02-19 17:33 < NotACow> whee!
2008-02-19 17:33 < NotACow> whee!
2008-02-19 17:34 < OverlordQ> yea
2008-02-19 17:34 < OverlordQ> where bright lights makes you sneeze
2008-02-19 17:34 < NotACow> WHEE!
2008-02-19 17:34 < NotACow> HWEE
2008-02-19 17:34 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#White_Cat
2008-02-19 17:34 < White_Cat> Oh cool!
2008-02-19 17:34 < OverlordQ> [[Photic_sneeze_reflex]]
2008-02-19 17:34 < ggreer> yeah, two of my coworkers didn't believe me when I explained it to them
2008-02-19 17:34 < NotACow> White_Cat: are you causing trouble again?
2008-02-19 17:34 < White_Cat> NotACow claim is that
2008-02-19 17:35 < White_Cat> I am an "ANI regular" apperantly
2008-02-19 17:35 < NotACow> White_Cat: that link doesn't lead to an existing section
2008-02-19 17:35 < NotACow> White_Cat: ah, it's there now
2008-02-19 17:35 < NotACow> White_Cat: must ahve been cache delay
2008-02-19 17:35 < White_Cat> refresh :)
2008-02-19 17:35 < White_Cat> yup
2008-02-19 17:36 * NotACow doesn't log into wikipedia anymore, and so has to deal with squid sillies
2008-02-19 17:36 < White_Cat> mm
2008-02-19 17:36 < White_Cat> squids
2008-02-19 17:36 < NotACow> yup! dramaturgy!
2008-02-19 17:37 < Michaael> How can I make an auto-redirection to a page ?
2008-02-19 17:37 < White_Cat> Michaael you can #Redirec[Target]]
2008-02-19 17:37 < White_Cat> err
2008-02-19 17:37 < Demi> photic sneezing is one of those myths like chronic fatigue syndrome, animal excitability before earthquakes, and lyme disease.
2008-02-19 17:37 < White_Cat> #redirect [[target]]
2008-02-19 17:38 < The359> Just create a page that says #redirect[[pageyouwanttogoto]]
2008-02-19 17:38 < NotACow> Demi: i read that as "anal excitability before earthquake"
2008-02-19 17:38 < OverlordQ> witha space after #redirect ;)
2008-02-19 17:39 < White_Cat> space isnt necesary
2008-02-19 17:39 < OverlordQ> orlly?
2008-02-19 17:39 < White_Cat> nope
2008-02-19 17:39 < OverlordQ> huh, coulda swore nospace used to break it
2008-02-19 17:39 < Demi> NotACow - no different than periods not before earthquakes, then
2008-02-19 17:39 < White_Cat> OverlordQ please dont swear
2008-02-19 17:39 < NotACow> ooh, "cunning tactics"
2008-02-19 17:40 < NotACow> CONVICT THEM NOW
2008-02-19 17:40 < NotACow> FOR THEY ARE CUNNING
2008-02-19 17:40 < Demi> today i have $2.85 more for retirement
2008-02-19 17:40 < bumm13> \o/
2008-02-19 17:40 < Puchiko> the Fidel Castro article is horrible vandalised and I don't know how to fix it
2008-02-19 17:40 < Puchiko> Can anyone help, please?
2008-02-19 17:40 < OverlordQ> is tools down or is my connection being uppity again
2008-02-19 17:41 < bumm13> Puchiko: I wouldn't worry about it too much, it'll get fixed
2008-02-19 17:41 < Lycurgus> I don't get the wikileaks law suit being in a San Francisco court. Isn't he site hosted in Europe?
2008-02-19 17:41 < Lycurgus> t
2008-02-19 17:41 < NotACow> White_Cat: your statistical method is sadly lacking
2008-02-19 17:41 < OverlordQ> think the registrar is there
2008-02-19 17:41 < bumm13> an article like that has plenty of eyes watching it
2008-02-19 17:41 < Puchiko> It's got penises all over the place, and I can't access the page history
2008-02-19 17:41 < Demi> san francisco is a well-known place to take a leak
2008-02-19 17:41 < NotACow> haha
2008-02-19 17:41 < NotACow> penis penis penis!
2008-02-19 17:41 < Puchiko> The edit tab is obstructed
2008-02-19 17:41 < bumm13> oh, that shit again
2008-02-19 17:42 < OverlordQ> that and the 9th circus is the best place for appeals :P
2008-02-19 17:42 < bumm13> Puchiko: looks like it's already been fixed
2008-02-19 17:42 < Lycurgus> please 1 will do. Quality over cardinality.
2008-02-19 17:42 < bumm13> try purging your browser cache
2008-02-19 17:42 < Demi> Puchiko - yep, it is fixed
2008-02-19 17:43 < bumm13> it's locked because of such vandalism, I imagine
2008-02-19 17:43 < Puchiko> Fine now, thanks
2008-02-19 17:43 < bumm13> no problem :)
2008-02-19 17:43 < bumm13> Demi: my mom was 2 months old when Castro officially became Cuba's head of state
2008-02-19 17:43 < bumm13> :x
2008-02-19 17:44 < Lycurgus> oh yeah, I see what it is now: clueless pigs wasting their time and money due to a lack of technical knowledge.
2008-02-19 17:45 < Lycurgus> but very relevant to some stuff I'm doing with DNS and IPV6
2008-02-19 17:47 < OverlordQ> when categorizing an image
2008-02-19 17:47 < Demi> bumm13 - i wonder what will happen now
2008-02-19 17:47 < OverlordQ> would I only slap it in the most specific category and none of it's parents? some of it's parents? Only the ones that end in y?
2008-02-19 17:48 < NotACow> when impersonating a wikipedian, be sure to disengage your higher thinking functions