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2008-02-18 12:17 < NotACow> Sfan00: we need to get past this "rights" talk
2008-02-18 12:17 < NotACow> Sfan00: you don't have rights.
2008-02-18 12:17 < NotACow> Sfan00: you get whatever god gives you, and if you don't have enough it's your fault for not being closer to god.
2008-02-18 12:18 < Sfan00> :O
2008-02-18 12:18 < Sfan00> I find that view offensive
2008-02-18 12:18 < NotACow> Sfan00: good thing you're not in the US, then
2008-02-18 12:19 < Sfan00> Blaming God for social probelms caue by the existence of a greedy elite that refuse to compromise is an offensive and unjustifiable viewpoint....
2008-02-18 12:19 < NotACow> Sfan00: god isn't to blam
2008-02-18 12:19 < NotACow> Sfan00: individual sin is to blame
2008-02-18 12:20 < NotACow> Sfan00: people who are suffering are suffering because they have turned their backs on god and have sinned.
2008-02-18 12:20 < Sfan00> So blacks deserve to be discriminated against because they are sinful?
2008-02-18 12:20 < NotACow> Sfan00: if they would accept christ as their lord and savior, and stop sinning against god's will, they would not suffer so.
2008-02-18 12:20 < Sfan00> ROFL
2008-02-18 12:21 < Arwen> Sfan00, but god created the greedy elite and blessed them
2008-02-18 12:21 < Arwen> so it is God's fault
2008-02-18 12:21 < NotACow> Sfan00: if they receive harshness, it is because they have earned it through their sins against God
2008-02-18 12:21 < Sfan00> NotACow: You are saying that it is God's will that whites have it better than blacks?
2008-02-18 12:21 < nuba> NotACow: please elaborate on suffering for primitive societies which dont have the concept of God, so they cant turn their backs on something they dont know.
2008-02-18 12:21 < NotACow> just as those who are wealthy are wealthy and powerful because they have been blessed by god
2008-02-18 12:21 < Sfan00> Yeah right,
2008-02-18 12:22 < Sfan00> And why are those rich and pwoerful people also sinful without repcurssion?
2008-02-18 12:22 < NotACow> it's God's will that they we rich and powerful, so you cannot take that away from them.
2008-02-18 12:22 < Sfan00> *powerful
2008-02-18 12:22 < Sfan00> So God is a hypocrite?
2008-02-18 12:22 < NotACow> i'm just stating Republican dogma.
2008-02-18 12:22 < Sfan00> Do as Say not do as I do?
2008-02-18 12:23 < NotACow> doobie doobie doo.
2008-02-18 12:23 < uberpenguin> superfundamentalist dogma, to be accurate
2008-02-18 12:23 < NotACow> uberpenguin: same thing
2008-02-18 12:23 < uberpenguin> well, it's not supposed to be
2008-02-18 12:23 < uberpenguin> but yeah, practically so
2008-02-18 12:23 < NotACow> uberpenguin: it is has god has intended it to be. :)
2008-02-18 12:23 < uberpenguin> "conservative" unfortunately has the wrong meaning nowadays
2008-02-18 12:23 < Sfan00> Well when the Democrats get in , it's hoped someoen will expose the Christo-facist conspiracy in America
2008-02-18 12:24 < Sfan00> Hmm, maybe someone 'Anonoymous' ... ; LOL
2008-02-18 12:24 < uberpenguin> oh lord
2008-02-18 12:25 < Taggard> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnonymous_%28group%29&diff=192339010&oldid=192338681
2008-02-18 12:25 < Taggard> Uh, help?
2008-02-18 12:25 < Sfan00> Sporgery ?
2008-02-18 12:25 < Taggard> I got it.
2008-02-18 12:26 < ST47> Indefhardblocked
2008-02-18 12:26 < Taggard> .. apparantly not
2008-02-18 12:26 < Taggard> Oh, I did get it.
2008-02-18 12:26 < Taggard> :]
2008-02-18 12:26 < Sfan00> ST47:Thanks
2008-02-18 12:26 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-18 12:26 < Sfan00> Did you put a note to the ISP?
2008-02-18 12:26 < ST47> No, I blocked the IP...
2008-02-18 12:27 < Sfan00> The style looks familr to some entitty that disrupted the Bunker Interview on Wikinews
2008-02-18 12:27 < Sfan00> St47: Someone with the attitudes being expressed needs help
2008-02-18 12:27 < researchsocial> hi all, thanks a lot
2008-02-18 12:27 < Sfan00> Maybe thier ISP can refer them to the appropriate proffesionals?
2008-02-18 12:27 < researchsocial> i got 4 people replied to the survey
2008-02-18 12:27 < researchsocial> i still need 46...
2008-02-18 12:28 < quanticle> researchsocial: What survey?
2008-02-18 12:28 < Sfan00> bTW St47: Fancy doing some Bot stuff?
2008-02-18 12:28 < ST47> Sfan00: go ahead and report it then
2008-02-18 12:28 < Sfan00> Like tagging commons candidates base don license tags?
2008-02-18 12:28 < ST47> odds of it being a proxy >99.9%
2008-02-18 12:28 < researchsocial> <This one>http://www.my3q.com/home2/202/researchsocial/nuswiki.phtml
2008-02-18 12:28 < Sfan00> ST47: It really needs to be an admin though
2008-02-18 12:29 < Sfan00> You'v ementioned it to ISP reporting people on ANI?
2008-02-18 12:29 * ST47 shrugs
2008-02-18 12:30 < ST47> not a big dead
2008-02-18 12:30 < ST47> deal*
2008-02-18 12:30 < Sfan00> Taggard: I can't even read the page concerned to get thier IP :(
2008-02-18 12:30 < Taggard> Sfan00: Heh
2008-02-18 12:31 < Taggard> Sfan00: Just change the urls some
2008-02-18 12:31 < Sfan00> Oversight it in the interest of wiki sanity?
2008-02-18 12:31 < Taggard> Get to the history page
2008-02-18 12:31 < Taggard> Sfan00: May as well.
2008-02-18 12:31 < Sfan00> !admin http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnonymous_%28group%29&diff=192339010&oldid=192338681 oversight for wiki sanity requested
2008-02-18 12:32 < Golbez> ha
2008-02-18 12:32 < NotASpy> [[Special:Emailuser/Oversight]] is your friend.
2008-02-18 12:32 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.187.210.184 - Only edits shown are to the page concerned
2008-02-18 12:32 < ST47> Not much point...
2008-02-18 12:32 < Golbez> not sure if oversight is needed but !admin can't help you with that
2008-02-18 12:32 < Golbez> (sorry for the double ping)
2008-02-18 12:32 < Golbez> we can't oversight, and it's not worth the effort to manually delete from history
2008-02-18 12:33 < Sfan00> Seems to be 1&1 in germany as a possible source : Abuse address listed as : mailto:dialin-abuse@1und1.de
2008-02-18 12:34 < Sfan00> Or abuse@oneandone.net
2008-02-18 12:34 < Sfan00> Any admins care to report it?
2008-02-18 12:35 < NotASpy> ST47: indef blocking an IP. Tsk ;-)
2008-02-18 12:36 < ST47> :)
2008-02-18 12:37 < AppleBoy> blammo
2008-02-18 12:38 < bumm13> oh dear, looks like Blu-Ray is going to win the next-generation videodisc format war
2008-02-18 12:39 < AppleBoy> :(
2008-02-18 12:39 < AppleBoy> blu-ray = fail
2008-02-18 12:39 < quanticle> Yep. Toshiba's stopping production of HD-DVD players :(
2008-02-18 12:39 < Krimpet> BitTorrent already won for my purposes. :)
2008-02-18 12:39 < quanticle> AppleBoy: Not really. According to the market, HD-DVD = fail.
2008-02-18 12:40 < bumm13> "I was kind of hoping HD DVD would win this one, now we'll be stuck with region locked movies for another decade till the next thing comes along."
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> Apologies for the upcoming flood - DRAFT Of possible mail to abuse contact:
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> Dear Sirs,
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> A user/customer of your services has mad unaccaptable edits to English Wikipedia,
2008-02-18 12:40 < quanticle> bumm13: Well, I'm sure it'll be cracked soo enough.
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> See:
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.187.210.184
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnonymous_%28group%29&diff=192339010&oldid=192338681
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> Owing to the natue of the disruption the IP is currently indefinitly blocked from
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> eidting on English Wikipedia, which may cause incovenience to other legitimate
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> editors using your services to access Wikipedia.
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> It would be appreciated if you could ensure that the user or customer responsible is
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> reminded of thier obligations with respect toyour applicable Terms Of Service/
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> Aceeptable Use Policy. If the matter is deemed a serious abuse, then I would strongly
2008-02-18 12:40 < Krimpet> Sfan00, stop
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> urge you to ensure the user/customer concerned abuse is reffered to the appropriate authorities...
2008-02-18 12:40 < Sfan00> Is that reasonable people?
2008-02-18 12:41 < AppleBoy> bumm13: requesting ops again
2008-02-18 12:41 < quanticle> Sfan00: Really, a pastebin would have more appropriate.
2008-02-18 12:41 < Sfan00> Yeah
2008-02-18 12:41 < Sfan00> Sorry
2008-02-18 12:41 * AppleBoy wants to smack Sfan00 next time he does that
2008-02-18 12:41 < bumm13> AppleBoy: calm down
2008-02-18 12:42 < AppleBoy> I know
2008-02-18 12:42 < Krimpet> I guess that whole AACS key brouhaha was pretty dumb in hindsight then? :P
2008-02-18 12:42 < PQE> Hi all
2008-02-18 12:43 < sag_ich_nicht> hello. how should this part of the channel rules be interpreted: '# Insulting, demeaning, plotting, planning or inciting actions against Wikipedians, trolls, vandals, Wikipedia critics, or anybody' ? because i have a vandal here and i don't have the time to run behind him and revert his edits because i have to leave :P
2008-02-18 12:43 < Krimpet> hello
2008-02-18 12:43 < PQE> Which vandal is that?
2008-02-18 12:44 < [NL]Thoth> Germans don't count ^^
2008-02-18 12:44 < [NL]Thoth> (srry
2008-02-18 12:44 < [NL]Thoth> :P
2008-02-18 12:44 < sag_ich_nicht> PQE: i won't give an answer to that until i get an answer to my question as to not violate the channel rules. :P
2008-02-18 12:44 < [NL]Thoth> asking for help aint plotting
2008-02-18 12:45 < [NL]Thoth> so I guess its oke
2008-02-18 12:45 < bumm13> saf_ich_nicht: feel free to talk
2008-02-18 12:45 < sag_ich_nicht> coming from the 142.33.42.* range, i reverted edits by him to [[Battle of Somme]], [[Battle of Passchendaele]], [[Never Gonna Give You Up]] and [[Dell]] but he'll probably continue to vandalize
2008-02-18 12:45 < bumm13> *sag_
2008-02-18 12:45 < sag_ich_nicht> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.33.42.142 & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.33.42.199 but he's probably changed IPs again
2008-02-18 12:46 < [NL]Thoth> ah, stupid dynamic ip's :|
2008-02-18 12:46 < sag_ich_nicht> hey, don't insult them, i have four of them on this line, and i like them :P
2008-02-18 12:47 < Krimpet> sag_ich_nicht: I soft-blocked their range for 2 days. :)
2008-02-18 12:47 < Sfan00> ST47 and others : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Unacceptable_editing_on_talk_page.3F
2008-02-18 12:47 < Sfan00> The vandal that disrupted the Anonymous article is going to get a nasty suprise...
2008-02-18 12:47 * AppleBoy shoots seanw
2008-02-18 12:48 < sag_ich_nicht> Krimpet: nice. did you check if there were more edits from that range recently? :>
2008-02-18 12:48 < Krimpet> sag_ich_nicht: will check now
2008-02-18 12:48 < sag_ich_nicht> thanks, then i can leave, bye :)
2008-02-18 12:49 < [NL]Thoth> bye
2008-02-18 12:51 < Krimpet> looks like there's nothing else from that range
2008-02-18 12:52 < PQE> These protests in Serbia are boring
2008-02-18 12:52 < PQE> One can't breathe
2008-02-18 12:52 < Taggard> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chrisbrowncutie14
2008-02-18 12:53 * bumm13 sees nothing there
2008-02-18 12:54 * AppleBoy slaps seanw around wit a large trout
2008-02-18 12:54 < Sfan00> Taggard: ?
2008-02-18 12:54 < Taggard> Sfan00: This got flagged up in #cvu-wp-en
2008-02-18 12:54 < Sfan00> Nothing there
2008-02-18 12:54 < Taggard> It's a user wh ouses "Chrisbrown" to evade
2008-02-18 12:54 < Taggard> Apparantly
2008-02-18 12:54 < Sfan00> Its been deleted
2008-02-18 12:55 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-18 12:55 < Taggard> No
2008-02-18 12:55 < Taggard> It's not the edit, its the user
2008-02-18 12:55 < Sfan00> Sockpuppet?
2008-02-18 12:56 < Taggard> Yeah, apparantly
2008-02-18 12:56 < Sfan00> Flag as such?
2008-02-18 12:57 < Taggard> Sure
2008-02-18 12:58 < Sfan00> Go ahaead:)
2008-02-18 12:58 * Taggard doesn't know how.
2008-02-18 12:58 * Taggard just got off a 6 month wikibreak.
2008-02-18 13:06 < Taggnostr> hello
2008-02-18 13:06 < Taggnostr> I think I've found a mistake on a page, what should I do?
2008-02-18 13:07 < Taggard> Taggnostr: Edit !
2008-02-18 13:07 < Taggard> Taggnostr: it's a wiki
2008-02-18 13:07 < Taggnostr> and if I'm wrong? :D
2008-02-18 13:07 < Taggnostr> I was looking at the discussion page, how does it work?
2008-02-18 13:07 < Taggard> Taggnostr: Then someone else will correct you
2008-02-18 13:08 < Taggard> Taggnostr: A discussion page works by people adding their opinions about something and discussing things, surprisingly enough
2008-02-18 13:08 < Taggard> Taggnostr: You can add a comment and sign it by placing four tildes "~~~~" after it.
2008-02-18 13:08 < Taggnostr> shouldn't I point out the error in the discussion page and someone will fix it if I'm right?
2008-02-18 13:09 < Aqwis> no
2008-02-18 13:09 < Aqwis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD
2008-02-18 13:09 < Mike1> if you are sure it's an error then fix it
2008-02-18 13:10 < Taggard> Taggnostr: If everyone did that then no work would get done
2008-02-18 13:10 < AppleBoy> shameless plug: http://globulation2.org <-- uber game, current cvs source is awesomeness. try it
2008-02-18 13:10 < Taggard> Taggnostr: Be bold and edit the page
2008-02-18 13:10 < AppleBoy> well, mercurial, not cvs
2008-02-18 13:10 < Taggnostr> it seems an error but I could be wrong, also my english is not really good (even if in this case I don't have to write anything)
2008-02-18 13:10 < [NL]Thoth> link and error?
2008-02-18 13:11 < AppleBoy> ok guys, I've been absent for a bit over a year, what all have I missed in that time?
2008-02-18 13:11 < Mike1> if you are not sure then i would suggest bringing it up on the talk page
2008-02-18 13:11 < Taggard> AppleBoy: A lot.
2008-02-18 13:11 < Taggard> AppleBoy: Seriously
2008-02-18 13:11 < AppleBoy> do share!
2008-02-18 13:11 < Taggard> AppleBoy: I've been goen for 6 months and a lot happened!
2008-02-18 13:11 < Taggard> AppleBoy: I came back today.
2008-02-18 13:11 < Taggnostr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix#Floppy_drives in the last paragraph, it use KB instead than kB and also it says "The drive was marketed as 1.44 MB when a more accurate value would have been 1.4 MB (1.40625 MB)." but 1474560 B = 1.475 MB = 1.406 MiB, so it should be MiB
2008-02-18 13:12 < CharlotteWebb> you might read the last few signpost issues
2008-02-18 13:12 < CharlotteWebb> a multi-part recap of 2007
2008-02-18 13:12 < AppleBoy> well, I heard this chan tried to go all serious for a while, how did that work out?
2008-02-18 13:13 < CharlotteWebb> as well as kosovo's independence will
2008-02-18 13:13 < Taggnostr> actually KB could be used for 1024 bytes, but it's wrong, it should be both KiB (x1024) or kB (x1000)
2008-02-18 13:13 < Taggard> AppleBoy: Users can get rollback now, that's a cool change
2008-02-18 13:13 < Taggard> AppleBoy: And there is a new skin
2008-02-18 13:13 < Mike1> Taggnostr: see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121839
2008-02-18 13:14 < CharlotteWebb> we don't need no stinkin new skins
2008-02-18 13:14 < AppleBoy> Taggard: I more meant all the juicy conflicts, goosip is good :)
2008-02-18 13:14 < Taggard> AppleBoy: I figured you did!
2008-02-18 13:14 < Taggard> But I also figured I'd say that
2008-02-18 13:15 < AppleBoy> be back in 10, breakfast calls
2008-02-18 13:15 < Taggnostr> There are 1024 bytes in a kilobyte, not 1000. <- this is plain wrong
2008-02-18 13:16 < CharlotteWebb> o rly
2008-02-18 13:16 < Taggnostr> (it's written in the article you linked me)
2008-02-18 13:16 < Taggnostr> also MS doesn't know the difference and the values shown in explorer on windows are wrong
2008-02-18 13:16 < Mike1> it's not plain wrong
2008-02-18 13:16 < Mike1> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobyte
2008-02-18 13:16 < Taggnostr> kilo is a SI prefix that means x1000
2008-02-18 13:17 < Taggnostr> kibi is a IEC prefix that means x1024
2008-02-18 13:17 < Mike1> yes, but not everyone follows logic :(
2008-02-18 13:17 < CharlotteWebb> (pedantry)
2008-02-18 13:17 < Mike1> what matters is how the word is used in practice, which varies
2008-02-18 13:18 < Taggnostr> well, that article talks about this difference, it seems wrong use KB in that way there
2008-02-18 13:19 < Taggnostr> it can't first say 1kB = 1000 bytes and 1KiB = 1024 bytes and than use KB (and also is not clear if it means x1024 or x1000 with that K)
2008-02-18 13:20 < CharlotteWebb> i'm sure more than 2.4% of available resources are wasted on most systems, so in practice it doesn't matter
2008-02-18 13:21 < Taggnostr> on a 500GB hd they are 30GB
2008-02-18 13:22 < Taggnostr> 500 GB = 465.661 GiB
2008-02-18 13:22 < Taggnostr> 35 :D
2008-02-18 13:22 < Taggnostr> btw is not this the point
2008-02-18 13:23 < Taggnostr> on that article there should explained the difference, but once they clarified the difference they still use KB :\
2008-02-18 13:25 < JoeLlama> neat
2008-02-18 13:26 < CharlotteWebb> of course, the size of allocation blocks would depend on the file system used, but waste remains proportionate to total drive capacity regardless
2008-02-18 13:27 < Taggnostr> btw that KB should be kB or KiB and that MB should be a MiB
2008-02-18 13:32 < NotACow> DOOB
2008-02-18 13:32 < NotACow> ok, which one of you blew up that refinery?
2008-02-18 13:42 < White_Cat> Mike_H you particularly busy?
2008-02-18 13:43 < Scarian> What's that site where you can upload data and it stores it for you?
2008-02-18 13:43 < Scarian> For you to download at a later date?
2008-02-18 13:44 < White_Cat> megaupload.com
2008-02-18 13:44 < Scarian> Danke.
2008-02-18 13:44 < White_Cat> :)
2008-02-18 13:46 < Apple> yay, back
2008-02-18 13:48 * Faroframkallande eats Apple
2008-02-18 13:48 < Faroframkallande> good day, tasty foodstuff
2008-02-18 13:54 < Apple> ok, so back to original problem, I need to be filled in on the past year
2008-02-18 13:55 < Apple> what's all the good stuff I missed?
2008-02-18 13:55 < Apple> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrufX2iePc&feature=related <-- lol
2008-02-18 13:56 < Faroframkallande> what where?
2008-02-18 13:59 < NotACow> CAJUN FRIES
2008-02-18 14:03 < NotAPolecat> Caged-in fries?
2008-02-18 14:04 < NotAPolecat> Oh, bloody hell.
2008-02-18 14:04 < Demi> i'm starting to get real tired of cats and things which aren't other things in here
2008-02-18 14:10 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-02-18 14:12 < NotACow> bunnybutt!
2008-02-18 14:15 < Demi> hi bumm13
2008-02-18 14:15 < NotACow> WIKIPEDIA NEEDS MORE BUNNYBUTT
2008-02-18 14:15 < Taggard> Hello NotACow
2008-02-18 14:16 < NotACow> Taggard: do you have bunnybutt?
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggnostr> how can I sign a post? ~~~~myname?
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggard> Taggnostr: No
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggard> Taggnostr: Just ~~~~
2008-02-18 14:16 < buffalosoldier92> :O
2008-02-18 14:16 * buffalosoldier92 is now disturbed
2008-02-18 14:16 < buffalosoldier92> Hm...
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggnostr> and my ip will appear instead of my name?
2008-02-18 14:16 < buffalosoldier92> They're recalling... 100 million some odd pounds of beef
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggard> Taggnostr: Yeah
2008-02-18 14:16 < buffalosoldier92> That they sold to schools
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggard> Taggnostr: Unless you are registered
2008-02-18 14:16 < Taggnostr> ok
2008-02-18 14:16 < NotACow> buffalosoldier92: it's already been eaten
2008-02-18 14:16 < buffalosoldier92> I know
2008-02-18 14:16 < buffalosoldier92> XD
2008-02-18 14:17 < NotACow> buffalosoldier92: and only about 40% of it was sold to schools, iirc
2008-02-18 14:17 < Demi> is it the pounds that are odd or the beef?
2008-02-18 14:17 < buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-18 14:17 < NotACow> Demi: both, by the sounds of it :)
2008-02-18 14:17 < NotACow> apparently the beef was laced with downers.
2008-02-18 14:18 < NotACow> LAGOO
2008-02-18 14:18 < buffalosoldier92> And a Refinery exploded
2008-02-18 14:18 < NotACow> buffalosoldier92: due to bad beef?
2008-02-18 14:18 < buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-18 14:19 < buffalosoldier92> No
2008-02-18 14:19 < buffalosoldier92> Though it may have been...
2008-02-18 14:19 < buffalosoldier92> dun dun DUN...
2008-02-18 14:19 < NotACow> a beef refinery?
2008-02-18 14:19 < buffalosoldier92> Oil
2008-02-18 14:19 < NotACow> meh, big deal
2008-02-18 14:19 < NotACow> those things explode all the time
2008-02-18 14:19 < buffalosoldier92> lol
2008-02-18 14:20 < NotACow> it wouldn't have exploded if it had had more cowbell
2008-02-18 14:20 < NotACow> the single most common cause of refinery explosion is acute cowbell deficiency.
2008-02-18 14:23 < Demi> mmm, beef fresh from the refinery
2008-02-18 14:25 < NotACow> "beef refinery" generates 259,000 hits on google
2008-02-18 14:26 < NotACow> in quotes, though, it only gets one
2008-02-18 14:26 < Demi> a band?
2008-02-18 14:26 < NotACow> Demi: no, a star trek fan reference
2008-02-18 14:26 < Gracenotes> what did people call that?
2008-02-18 14:26 < NotACow> er, sorry, star wars
2008-02-18 14:26 < Gracenotes> having one Google hit for two words?
2008-02-18 14:27 < NotACow> Gracenotes: there's a name for it, but i don't rememer what
2008-02-18 14:27 < Demi> googlewhack
2008-02-18 14:27 * Gracenotes doesn't recall if quotes were allowed or not
2008-02-18 14:27 < Demi> no
2008-02-18 14:27 < Gracenotes> ah
2008-02-18 14:28 < NotASpider> i thought it was an "or" search without quotes or plus signs
2008-02-18 14:28 < NotASpider> not sure as i habitually use quotes
2008-02-18 14:29 < Gracenotes> hm, [[Hapax legomenon]]. very interesting...
2008-02-18 14:29 < NotACow> there is apparently a flash game called "The McDonald's Game" that include sa "beef refinery"
2008-02-18 14:29 * skenmy is confused
2008-02-18 14:29 < skenmy> why does Wikipedia have ten Main Pages?
2008-02-18 14:29 < skenmy> eleven, even...
2008-02-18 14:29 < Demi> some pages are mainer than others
2008-02-18 14:29 < Gracenotes> skenmy: a system to prevent admins doing stupid things
2008-02-18 14:30 < skenmy> i see
2008-02-18 14:30 < Gracenotes> or rather, a system to prevent people from creating the Main Page once an admin has stupidly deleted it
2008-02-18 14:31 < Gracenotes> skenmy: there's a type of protection called "cascade protection", in which everything transcluded on a certain page is protected
2008-02-18 14:31 < skenmy> Yeah :)
2008-02-18 14:31 < Gracenotes> okay... you know. :P
2008-02-18 14:35 < bumm13> Demi: citizens of Maine are known as "Mainers" :-)
2008-02-18 14:35 < Demi> not Mainiacs?
2008-02-18 14:35 < bumm13> heh, no
2008-02-18 14:36 * bumm13 hopes this cold goes away in a few days...
2008-02-18 14:38 < Taggard> What do people recommend for a script whic hcan speed up adding user warnings but not add more rollback and undo functions?
2008-02-18 14:38 < NotASpider> demonyms tend to be pretty stupid
2008-02-18 14:39 < Demi> stop being such a demonymiast
2008-02-18 14:39 * bumm13 prefers demon-nyms
2008-02-18 14:39 * jeremyb hands Leslie_S a smarter tab key :)
2008-02-18 14:40 < NotASpider> our name is legion, for we are many
2008-02-18 14:40 < NotACow> demonytic malaise
2008-02-18 14:40 < bumm13> meowf
2008-02-18 14:40 < NotACow> meowp
2008-02-18 14:40 < jeremyb> Taggard: you can use parts of twinkle without the whole thing
2008-02-18 14:40 < NotACow> TWINKLE EVIL
2008-02-18 14:41 * NotACow is of the opinion that female residents of michigan are properly called "michigeese"
2008-02-18 14:41 < NotASpider> message templates are mostly TL;DR
2008-02-18 14:42 * bumm13 NP: Grateful Dead - Death Don't Have No Mercy (1966)
2008-02-18 14:44 < Dfeig> Hi All... I am trying to edit the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MCQ but I can't seem to get access to the section "How to ask a question". Is this blocked?
2008-02-18 14:44 < NotASpider> i think i've argued once or twice that categories should avoid demonyms and use "___ from ___" or "___ of ___"
2008-02-18 14:44 < NotASpider> for consistency
2008-02-18 14:45 < Demi> Characteristics of Mancunians
2008-02-18 14:46 < barak4u> does anybody know of a good program to help sort information inside wiki tables in the same way excel does ?
2008-02-18 14:46 < NotASpider> and dis-ambiguity in cases where a word can either be a demonym or a name of a language
2008-02-18 14:46 < Demi> Distribution of Religiosity of Utahrds
2008-02-18 14:47 < jeremyb> barak4u: javascript?
2008-02-18 14:47 < NotASpider> eh demi is once again fond of tongue-in-cheek catagorization
2008-02-18 14:48 < Demi> that's me... tongues, cheeks and whatnot
2008-02-18 14:49 * NotASpider recalls the discussion about "california-set fat-suit wearinged movies"
2008-02-18 14:49 < barak4u> I want to reorgnize the information in a big table I have already in wikipedia according to a different collumn - a function which would be easily done in excel.... but if i do it in excel I would lose all the speacial wiki coding ..
2008-02-18 14:50 < NotASpider> ba5rak4yu this might be a stupid question
2008-02-18 14:50 < J_Milburn> Can anyone here read any Eastern Eurpean languages? Just a couple of lines, could you tell me what http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJ_Milburn&diff=192370504&oldid=192282586 says?
2008-02-18 14:50 < NotASpider> but are you familar with the "sortable table" feature
2008-02-18 14:51 < barak4u> yes I am , but I want the information to be sorted before one would press that butten..
2008-02-18 14:51 < barak4u> just a second , I'll show you...
2008-02-18 14:51 < barak4u> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mad's_movie_spoofs
2008-02-18 14:51 < NotASpider> oh you mean you should be able to specifiy a default sort
2008-02-18 14:51 < NotASpider> regarldess of the order of teh rows
2008-02-18 14:52 < barak4u> I want to resort this list into seperate tables sorted by decades
2008-02-18 14:52 < NotASpider> that would a ppear when you first load the page
2008-02-18 14:53 < NotASpider> well the fisrt step would be to get rid of the section headers and make it one continouous table
2008-02-18 14:53 < barak4u> I started rearraning it in my userpage but it will take me ages to do it all
2008-02-18 14:53 < barak4u> check this out..
2008-02-18 14:53 < barak4u> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Acidburn24m/Sand_Box_18
2008-02-18 14:53 < barak4u> and then what ?
2008-02-18 14:54 < NotASpider> and then you need to use some kind of hack to make t he month+ year dates sort properly
2008-02-18 14:55 < jeremyb> barak4u: you want me to just do it for you? what column?
2008-02-18 14:55 < NotASpider> oh i see you done that already
2008-02-18 14:55 < NotASpider> with dipslay:none
2008-02-18 14:56 < barak4u> I want it all to be sorted out just like I did in my sandbox..
2008-02-18 14:56 < barak4u> occording to the date..
2008-02-18 14:56 < barak4u> and then seperate it to different tables by decade
2008-02-18 14:57 < NotASpider> well if you want to keep the option available to sort it by any column you'd have to get rid of the section headers
2008-02-18 14:58 < NotASpider> the entire list that is
2008-02-18 14:58 < barak4u> you mean make it all in one big list
2008-02-18 14:58 < barak4u> ?
2008-02-18 14:59 < NotASpider> depends on what your goal is
2008-02-18 14:59 < NotASpider> ifr you want it to be sortable as a whole it has to be a single big table
2008-02-18 14:59 < barak4u> my goal is to sirt it by date - preferably in different tables by decades
2008-02-18 15:00 < barak4u> I understand..
2008-02-18 15:01 < barak4u> how would you do that ?
2008-02-18 15:01 < quanticle> barak4u: I'd sort by the 3rd numeral in the date field.
2008-02-18 15:01 < kbrooks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_3 # an ad!
2008-02-18 15:02 < barak4u> how would I do that ?
2008-02-18 15:02 < NotASpider> the way i see it if you want to *permanently* change the order of the table without having to re-sort it manually
2008-02-18 15:02 < NotASpider> or with some other tool
2008-02-18 15:02 < NotASpider> there are two options both would require a software change
2008-02-18 15:03 < NotASpider> a) define a (automatic) default sort that occurs immediately when the page is loaded
2008-02-18 15:04 < NotASpider> making the order in the wiki-code irrelevent
2008-02-18 15:05 < NotASpider> or b) some way to un-parse the manipulated (sorted) html back into wiki-code after you have clicked a column to sort it, so you can copy, paste, and save it
2008-02-18 15:05 < NotASpider> talk to the devs
2008-02-18 15:06 < barak4u> I'm mostly interested in B.
2008-02-18 15:06 < barak4u> where can I find a Dev to help me out?
2008-02-18 15:06 < bumm13> #mediawiki
2008-02-18 15:07 < barak4u> thanx
2008-02-18 15:07 < bumm13> no problem :)
2008-02-18 15:07 < barak4u> one last qustion..
2008-02-18 15:07 < NotACow> LIFE TO DEVS
2008-02-18 15:07 < NotASpider> hehehehhehe
2008-02-18 15:07 < NotACow> FREE COOKIES TO DEVS
2008-02-18 15:08 < barak4u> is there any program which converts EXCEL tables into wiki tables without any unneccessary HTML code?
2008-02-18 15:08 < NotACow> barak4u: you're free to write one!
2008-02-18 15:08 < Lycurgus> <troll>barak4u: your boi is demagogic hack </troll>
2008-02-18 15:08 < Scarian> .away
2008-02-18 15:08 < Lycurgus> *a
2008-02-18 15:09 < NotACow> .back
2008-02-18 15:09 < Scarian> Damn it.
2008-02-18 15:09 < Scarian> NotACow: Shush you.
2008-02-18 15:09 < Scarian> -.-
2008-02-18 15:09 * NotACow paints little smiley faces on Scarian's cheeks while he is away
2008-02-18 15:09 < NotASpider> even if it doesn't exist it would be easy enoguh to convert from html to wiki-table
2008-02-18 15:10 < NotASpider> and i think tools for that do already exist
2008-02-18 15:11 < barak4u> Ok .. I'll ask in mediawiki
2008-02-18 15:11 < barak4u> thanks for all the help
2008-02-18 15:12 * jeremyb is back and pokes into #mediawiki
2008-02-18 15:12 < NotACow> NO POKING
2008-02-18 15:12 * jeremyb pulls rug out from under NotACow
2008-02-18 15:13 < quanticle> DEATH TO POKES
2008-02-18 15:14 * bumm13 brushes his choppers
2008-02-18 15:14 < AAA^> a question
2008-02-18 15:15 < AAA^> should this go on [[WP:PUI]], or labelled as copyvio? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:D_Adair_setup.jpg
2008-02-18 15:15 < quanticle> AAA^: Just ask it...
2008-02-18 15:15 < AAA^> it is merely this image, but manipulated to remove the sabian logos: http://www.daniel-adair.com/images/da_setup.jpg
2008-02-18 15:15 < jeremyb> barak4u: so you want to lump all the letter headings together and then split out to decades right?
2008-02-18 15:15 < AAA^> look carefully, and you can see some blotches
2008-02-18 15:16 < quanticle> That's a lot of cymbals
2008-02-18 15:16 < AAA^> not really
2008-02-18 15:16 < AAA^> also, the user has kept uploading similar images with incorrect copyright status
2008-02-18 15:17 < quanticle> AAA^: I'd label it copyvio again.
2008-02-18 15:17 < AAA^> so not PUI?
2008-02-18 15:18 < quanticle> Well, they're not mutually exclusive.
2008-02-18 15:18 < quanticle> But yeah, I'd label it copyvio.
2008-02-18 15:18 < AAA^> k
2008-02-18 15:19 < AAA^> wait, what about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-copyvio
2008-02-18 15:19 < AAA^> editing an image and claiming it as your own work should make it speedied
2008-02-18 15:20 < quanticle> AAA^: That'd probably be the best option.
2008-02-18 15:20 < AAA^> ok
2008-02-18 15:21 < Trickz> hi quanticle
2008-02-18 15:21 < AAA^> actually, i'm just gonna put in on {{WP:CP}}
2008-02-18 15:21 < AAA^> {{copyvio}} template looks pretty too
2008-02-18 15:21 < quanticle> Hi Trickz
2008-02-18 15:22 < quanticle> AAA^: Ok, sure whatever...
2008-02-18 15:23 < SiGO> hi wikipedos
2008-02-18 15:24 < quanticle> SiGO: I know you are but what am I?
2008-02-18 15:24 < bumm13> ...
2008-02-18 15:25 * bumm13 sits on SiGO
2008-02-18 15:25 < kim_> ARgh... I've lost a word... what do you call it when you have some typical ... oh, found it, thanks folks ;-)
2008-02-18 15:25 < kim_> helo bumm13 , SiGO
2008-02-18 15:25 < quanticle> Hello kim.
2008-02-18 15:25 < NotASpider> i don't know who g-dett is but her sleuthing puts durova to shame
2008-02-18 15:26 < AAA^> gah, it's all so hard!
2008-02-18 15:26 < kim_> hello quanticle
2008-02-18 15:26 < quanticle> NotSpider: Who?
2008-02-18 15:26 < Taggard> [20:26:25] <+MiszaBot> New user [[User:Raperape]] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raperape) containing watch word "rape" Block [[Special:Blockip/Raperape]]
2008-02-18 15:26 < NotASpider> are you following current arbcom cases
2008-02-18 15:27 < quanticle> NotASpider: Not really...
2008-02-18 15:27 < cctoide> Taggard: Bot must be broken :p
2008-02-18 15:27 < Taggard> cctoide: Heh
2008-02-18 15:28 < NotASpider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Mantanmoreland/Evidence#Evidence_presented_by_G-Dett
2008-02-18 15:29 * bumm13 finds a nonsense "article" started by User:Raperape
2008-02-18 15:29 < bumm13> (deleted now by yours truly)
2008-02-18 15:29 < cctoide> Taking bets on how long it takes for him/her to cry foul?
2008-02-18 15:29 < quanticle> NotASpider: "And the Mantanmoreland account itself has been compellingly linked to Gary Weiss by the Varkala edit, preceding as it does the dramatic time-zone shift in Mantan's editing schedule when Weiss left for India, where he was married in Varkala." <-- Whoa that's creepy
2008-02-18 15:30 < NotASpider> that's a small beer, read the rest
2008-02-18 15:31 < gilm0re> i have a beer up my ass
2008-02-18 15:31 < NotACow> gilm0re: sounds like fun
2008-02-18 15:32 < wimt> gilm0re, I've always preferred drinking it personally.
2008-02-18 15:32 < bumm13> gilm0re: that's nice....
2008-02-18 15:32 < gilm0re> i put some magic eggplants in my derriere
2008-02-18 15:32 < bumm13> \o/
2008-02-18 15:32 < gilm0re> then i did my cat dance at the 4h fair
2008-02-18 15:33 < kim_> G-Dett is interesting
2008-02-18 15:33 < kim_> [[citation needed]] ?
2008-02-18 15:33 < bumm13> you go girl!
2008-02-18 15:33 < kim_> oh wait
2008-02-18 15:33 < AAA^> i just settled with PUI
2008-02-18 15:33 < AAA^> good enough for me
2008-02-18 15:33 < kim_> wow
2008-02-18 15:33 < quanticle> gilm0re: That's... somewhat disturbing.
2008-02-18 15:34 < kim_> G-Dett did some research
2008-02-18 15:34 < kim_> wow
2008-02-18 15:34 < NotASpider> kim_ i'm trying to find a barnstar worthy enough
2008-02-18 15:35 < quanticle> kim_: Yeah, "research". That's one way of putting it...
2008-02-18 15:35 < kim_> NotASpider, wait until it plays out :-)
2008-02-18 15:35 < NotASpider> that wil give me time to make my own
2008-02-18 15:35 < kim_> quanticle, your way of putting it?
2008-02-18 15:35 < quanticle> kim_: Cyberstalking?
2008-02-18 15:35 < AAA^> also, this is silly: http://www.answers.com/topic/d-adair-setup-jpg-1
2008-02-18 15:35 < AAA^> they copied a copyvio
2008-02-18 15:35 < AAA^> *rimshot*
2008-02-18 15:36 < kim_> quanticle, :-)
2008-02-18 15:36 < quanticle> AAA^: Heh. I guess they'll update to reflect the edited version eventually.
2008-02-18 15:36 < AAA^> yeah
2008-02-18 15:37 < AAA^> that'll give aswers.com a suprise
2008-02-18 15:37 < SiGO> Where is w00t?
2008-02-18 15:37 < kim_> quanticle, It does kinda scare me, yeah
2008-02-18 15:37 < quanticle> Yeah, that's what I don't like about answers.com. They're just another wikipedia mirror, except that they don't update often enough.
2008-02-18 15:37 < quanticle> kim_: Yeah. it is pretty creepy...
2008-02-18 15:37 < Trickz> maybe i should put a wikipedia bomb on answers.com
2008-02-18 15:38 < AAA^> wait, does that mean if you blank a page and it stays like that long enough, does that mean it'll happen to answers.com too?
2008-02-18 15:38 < Trickz> eventually
2008-02-18 15:38 < Trickz> or put hidden messages
2008-02-18 15:38 < AAA^> "Jimbo Wales: Takes it up the ass"
2008-02-18 15:39 < AAA^> "From answers.com"
2008-02-18 15:39 < kim_> Trickz, no thank you. Answers.com are very nice people
2008-02-18 15:39 < kim_> They help us out from time to time
2008-02-18 15:39 < quanticle> kim_: Really?
2008-02-18 15:39 < kim_> they helped sponsor one of the wikimanias, for starters
2008-02-18 15:40 < kim_> they probably still do donations too, though we should check that with the office folks :-P
2008-02-18 15:40 < quanticle> "Postscript: A fellow Wikipedian has pointed out to me that Josephine Earp, Wyatt’s wife and the focus of User:Lastexit’s first edits after his Tombstone debut, was Jewish. As it happens, there was a significant Jewish population in the Tombstone of the 19th century; indeed the town's very name was given to it by a Jewish pioneer who opened its first general store. [148] In light of the striking nexus of interests here – Jewish history, t
2008-02-18 15:42 < zvook> he Earp vendetta ride, historical/tourist sites in the Southwest, and the legends of Tom(b)stone(r) – I regarded this as an interesting lead. I understand that what I’ve found and am presenting is 'evidence' of a peculiar sort."
2008-02-18 15:43 < kim_> http://you.presscue.com/node/352 biblical fail
2008-02-18 15:43 < kim_> heh
2008-02-18 15:45 < Trickz> hi tawker
2008-02-18 15:47 < jerkface03> lol
2008-02-18 15:47 < jerkface03> too funny
2008-02-18 15:48 < kim_> !ops -^
2008-02-18 15:48 < jerkface03> don't be hatin
2008-02-18 15:48 < TheLetterE_away> kim_: WHAT
2008-02-18 15:49 < zvook> LAUGHING IN CHANNEL
2008-02-18 15:49 < J_Milburn> Anyone speak Turkish?
2008-02-18 15:49 < TheLetterE_away> J_Milburn: No, sorry
2008-02-18 15:49 < Karlprof> So, why are we opping?
2008-02-18 15:49 < Gracenotes> no idea
2008-02-18 15:50 * NotASpider pokes White_Cat
2008-02-18 15:50 < zvook> it's just a fad
2008-02-18 15:50 < kim_> me neither
2008-02-18 15:50 * Gracenotes huggles kim_
2008-02-18 15:50 < Karlprof> Clearly it's so we feel special
2008-02-18 15:50 < Gracenotes> anyone else want to join in?
2008-02-18 15:50 < kim_> well, except one dude with a suspicious nick
2008-02-18 15:50 < Karlprof> (Shall I set -ooo? :P)
2008-02-18 15:50 < TheLetterE_away> kim_: Please DO NOT ping the ops
2008-02-18 15:50 < TheLetterE_away> I WAS ASLEEP
2008-02-18 15:50 * kim_ huggles the +ooo
2008-02-18 15:50 < zvook> i would join in, but i'm not licenced to sell snails, sadly :(
2008-02-18 15:50 < TheLetterE_away> And am now very mad
2008-02-18 15:50 < jerkface03> lol are you talking about me? :(
2008-02-18 15:50 < zvook> that's what that means, right?
2008-02-18 15:50 < jerkface03> i've had this nick for over a year
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Lavinia}{ farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Loredana19 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Lavinia}{ farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * savutano farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * mihay_buc farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Lavinia}{ farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * savutano farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * mihay_buc farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * mihay_buc farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Lavinia}{ farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * mihay_buc farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * savutano farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * savutano farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Lavinia}{ farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * mihay_buc farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * savutano farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * mihay_buc farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Lavinia}{ farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Loredana19 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Loredana19 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Loredana19 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Loredana19 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * catalina23 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * savutano farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Loredana19 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Mutu_4u farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Mutu_4u farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Mutu_4u farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Mutu_4u farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Mutu_4u farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * SiGO farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * Mutu_4u farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * catalina23 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * catalina23 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * catalina23 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * catalina23 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 * catalina23 farts and stinks up the whole goddamn room!
2008-02-18 15:50 < jerkface03> LOL
2008-02-18 15:50 < Gracenotes> hai
2008-02-18 15:51 * Gracenotes sprays Lysol
2008-02-18 15:51 < Karlprof> Ooooh, ouch.
2008-02-18 15:51 < zvook> kim's spidey senses
2008-02-18 15:51 < AAA^> whee!
2008-02-18 15:51 < kibble> wimt: is really on the bal today
2008-02-18 15:51 < kibble> ball*
2008-02-18 15:51 < wimt> kibble, hehe
2008-02-18 15:51 < TheLetterE_away> i am too :O
2008-02-18 15:51 < kibble> :-)
2008-02-18 15:51 < Crazytales> Fuck
2008-02-18 15:51 * kibble huggles TheLetterE_away and wimt
2008-02-18 15:51 * wimt huggles back
2008-02-18 15:52 < TheLetterE_away> vah
2008-02-18 15:52 < TheLetterE_away> thank gosh
2008-02-18 15:52 * kibble huggles kim_bruning
2008-02-18 15:52 < Trickz> uh
2008-02-18 15:52 < TheLetterE_away> im half asleep and was worried i did something wrong
2008-02-18 15:52 < Trickz> wtf just happened
2008-02-18 15:52 * kim_bruning kibbles huggle, or some such
2008-02-18 15:52 < kibble> :-)
2008-02-18 15:53 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-02-18 15:53 < Gracenotes> see ya, trickz
2008-02-18 15:53 < Karlprof> that would be our culprit, then
2008-02-18 15:53 < wimt> Indeedy
2008-02-18 15:53 < Gracenotes> I was wondering when...
2008-02-18 15:53 < TheLetterE_away> then the hard bit comes

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