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2008-02-17 21:55 < White_Cat> Turkey will recognise
2008-02-17 21:55 < White_Cat> but they still have seperatist problems
2008-02-17 21:55 < White_Cat> Taiwan does not exist
2008-02-17 21:55 < White_Cat> RoC!
2008-02-17 21:55 < White_Cat> PRoC!
2008-02-17 21:55 < Evil_Monkey> Turkey probably want people to recognize Northern Cyprus
2008-02-17 21:56 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey perhaps
2008-02-17 21:56 < Evil_Monkey> Taiwan exists. It's an island. :-)
2008-02-17 21:56 < White_Cat> then again perhaps not
2008-02-17 21:56 * White_Cat torpedoes it away
2008-02-17 21:56 < HemlockMartinis> Here's the Turkey article: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/8249874.asp?gid=74&sz=53486
2008-02-17 21:56 < White_Cat> <checov accent>I launch photon torpedo</checov accent>
2008-02-17 21:57 < HemlockMartinis> Perhaps Turkey's also trying to play nice with the EU so they can get their accession hurried up.
2008-02-17 21:57 < White_Cat> exactly
2008-02-17 21:57 < White_Cat> tukey wants it but doesnt say
2008-02-17 21:57 < White_Cat> much like how armenia does not recognise karabagh
2008-02-17 21:57 < Evil_Monkey> "situation could set an example for Northern Cyprus and Northern Iraq"
2008-02-17 21:57 < Evil_Monkey> That sentence doesn't make sense --- don't they want Northern Cyprus to be recognized?
2008-02-17 21:58 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey yes
2008-02-17 21:58 < White_Cat> but they fear northern iraq
2008-02-17 21:58 < White_Cat> as does moscow fears chechenistan but wants azbakhs to be independent
2008-02-17 21:58 < White_Cat> azbaks being a part of georgia but russian troops are around there
2008-02-17 21:59 < Evil_Monkey> I love how some countries are saying they'll wait until the Security Council makes a decision, knowing full well with Russia's veto power it will never get passed
2008-02-17 21:59 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey its saying
2008-02-17 22:00 < White_Cat> "look we would recognise but who are we to disregard the allmight security concil?"
2008-02-17 22:00 < White_Cat> ;)
2008-02-17 22:01 < HemlockMartinis> Hardly matters, the EU and US are going to recognize it tomorrow.
2008-02-17 22:01 < Evil_Monkey> White_Cat: yeah, you can't go around saying bad things about the US because they ignored the security council over Iraq and then turn around and ignore the Security Council
2008-02-17 22:01 < White_Cat> HemlockMartinis no
2008-02-17 22:01 < White_Cat> EU cant recognise
2008-02-17 22:01 < White_Cat> cyprus wont
2008-02-17 22:01 < White_Cat> so its not an eu-wide decision
2008-02-17 22:01 < White_Cat> US doesnt count
2008-02-17 22:02 < White_Cat> US-cruft
2008-02-17 22:02 < White_Cat> this is what US wants
2008-02-17 22:02 < White_Cat> not something they flow with
2008-02-17 22:02 < HemlockMartinis> White_Cat: The EU's council of foreign ministers is writing up a declaration as we speak. It's majority rule there.
2008-02-17 22:02 < White_Cat> HemlockMartinis as we speak they are sleeping
2008-02-17 22:03 < White_Cat> their interns are writing
2008-02-17 22:03 < White_Cat> :)
2008-02-17 22:03 < White_Cat> disposable ones
2008-02-17 22:03 < HemlockMartinis> Still, a collective decision's being written.
2008-02-17 22:03 < White_Cat> I dont see whats significant about kosovo
2008-02-17 22:03 < White_Cat> they were defacto independent to date
2008-02-17 22:04 < White_Cat> its not like Texas declared independence
2008-02-17 22:04 * Evil_Monkey adds Texas independence to ITN
2008-02-17 22:05 < Evil_Monkey> how long before it ends up on CNN and calls are being made to the Texan government?
2008-02-17 22:05 < HemlockMartinis> We should test that sometime.
2008-02-17 22:05 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-17 22:06 < White_Cat> I'd expect CNN to show spongebob while reporting it
2008-02-17 22:06 < HemlockMartinis> Something harmless, like "* Dutch troops capture Lisbon, sack government buildings"
2008-02-17 22:06 < Evil_Monkey> :-)
2008-02-17 22:06 < White_Cat> Dutch troops captured Dutch capital back from nudists
2008-02-17 22:06 < White_Cat> ;)
2008-02-17 22:06 < HemlockMartinis> Actually, the greatest headline that would balance harmless with newsworthy would be QE2 abdicating.
2008-02-17 22:07 < Evil_Monkey> Kosovo can't be independent -- they don't have a TLD
2008-02-17 22:07 < HemlockMartinis> TLD?
2008-02-17 22:07 < Evil_Monkey> top level domain
2008-02-17 22:08 < HemlockMartinis> :P
2008-02-17 22:08 < White_Cat> they do have one I think
2008-02-17 22:08 < White_Cat> .yu
2008-02-17 22:08 < Evil_Monkey> If it isn't on Wikipedia, it can't be true
2008-02-17 22:08 < White_Cat> no ones using it
2008-02-17 22:08 < White_Cat> so they might just as well
2008-02-17 22:08 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-17 22:13 < noclip> bah
2008-02-17 22:14 < noclip> creative labs patented television with sound
2008-02-17 22:14 < noclip> in 1999
2008-02-17 22:14 < noclip> i mean, wtf
2008-02-17 22:16 < White_Cat> ...
2008-02-17 22:17 < White_Cat> noclip imagine pattenting radio with video
2008-02-17 22:17 < noclip> bleeding edge technology, that
2008-02-17 22:18 < White_Cat> noclip they figured out how to put sound and vido in sync in 1999 maybe
2008-02-17 22:18 < White_Cat> creativelabs were always about audio
2008-02-17 22:18 < Undeference> gotta love dubious patent claims
2008-02-17 22:19 < noclip> this is beyond dubious
2008-02-17 22:19 < noclip> even attempting to file a patent like that should warrant a $100 million fine
2008-02-17 22:20 < noclip> that patent was actually awarded
2008-02-17 22:20 < noclip> in 2002
2008-02-17 22:20 < noclip> they actually hold a patent on television with sound
2008-02-17 22:21 < noclip> i should patent human lungs
2008-02-17 22:21 < noclip> make everyone who wants to live pay me royalties
2008-02-17 22:21 < Rinn> You can live without human lungs.
2008-02-17 22:21 < Luna-San> Patent patents.
2008-02-17 22:21 < noclip> been done
2008-02-17 22:28 < White_Cat> noclip I patent you
2008-02-17 22:28 < White_Cat> how about pattenting nonsense?
2008-02-17 22:28 < White_Cat> or pattenting trolling?
2008-02-17 22:29 < White_Cat> people pay you money to cause disruption
2008-02-17 22:29 < White_Cat> gotta love that :D
2008-02-17 22:29 < Undeference> noclip: many proteins are patented
2008-02-17 22:29 < Undeference> patenting lungs is not so far fetched
2008-02-17 22:29 < White_Cat> Undeference it is
2008-02-17 22:29 < White_Cat> you cant patent organisms
2008-02-17 22:30 < White_Cat> a protein is a chemical
2008-02-17 22:30 < ZiL> Hello there.
2008-02-17 22:34 < gwern> I am sad. I am watching a dvd of Wall Street, and it's freezing right in Gekko's famous greed is good speech
2008-02-17 22:38 < Xihix> my tooth huuuuuuurts
2008-02-17 22:38 < Xihix> but I was at the dentist last month and nothing was wrong.
2008-02-17 22:38 < Xihix> it hurts so much :(
2008-02-17 22:41 < gwern> quit whining. I'm missing a seminal piece of americna culture, and your bitching about a little pain?
2008-02-17 22:43 < quanticle> I made it into the quarterfinals of my college's quiz bowl!
2008-02-17 22:43 < quanticle> I thank Wikipedia for this, for without your random facts, I would have lost hardcore
2008-02-17 22:45 < White_Cat> quanticle Did you know? Wikipedias random facts may lead you into the quarter-finals of college quiz bowls?
2008-02-17 22:45 < quanticle> White_Cat: More than that. I'm hoping I can ride this to victory
2008-02-17 22:46 < quanticle> I should thank wikinews too, as well as the Economist.
2008-02-17 22:46 < White_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of3zOPcCMgI <- like so?
2008-02-17 22:47 < quanticle> White_Cat: No, more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdTNe2EPyZE
2008-02-17 22:48 < White_Cat> quanticle and not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKff_2J-cIU&feature=related ?
2008-02-17 22:49 * White_Cat pictures quanticle as nel
2008-02-17 22:50 < quanticle> White_Cat: Maybe that too.
2008-02-17 22:50 < quanticle> White_Cat: Who?
2008-02-17 22:50 < White_Cat> Nel
2008-02-17 22:50 < White_Cat> if you dont know "Nel Tu" you arent a real bleach fan
2008-02-17 22:50 < White_Cat> for that you must die
2008-02-17 22:51 < quanticle> White_Cat: I haven't made it past Season 2 yet
2008-02-17 22:51 < White_Cat> ok then I will let you live another season
2008-02-17 22:51 * White_Cat permits
2008-02-17 22:51 < kibble> notify@the-leaky-cauldron.org
2008-02-17 22:51 < kibble> ugh
2008-02-17 22:51 < quanticle> White_Cat: Is it bad that my favorite character is Renji Aibara?
2008-02-17 22:52 < White_Cat> Renji is OK
2008-02-17 22:52 < White_Cat> if you want to fry your mind try picturing kempachi in a wedding gawn
2008-02-17 22:52 < White_Cat> oh you dont know about him either
2008-02-17 22:53 < White_Cat> well...
2008-02-17 22:53 < White_Cat> quanticle you dont know much, do you?
2008-02-17 22:55 < White_Cat> quanticle I so hate dubbed anime sometimes
2008-02-17 22:55 * White_Cat is listening to songs that were dubbed :/
2008-02-17 22:55 < CutMeOwnThroat> ops
2008-02-17 22:58 < Arwen> White_Cat, I hate anime in general.
2008-02-17 22:58 < Arwen> ANIME IS CRAPPY JAP CARTOONS
2008-02-17 22:58 < White_Cat> Arwen thats alright
2008-02-17 22:58 < White_Cat> how about hentai?
2008-02-17 22:59 < Arwen> what about perverts?
2008-02-17 23:00 < White_Cat> are you calling me a prevert?
2008-02-17 23:00 < White_Cat> I will let you know that doesnt give me adequate credit
2008-02-17 23:01 < The359> needs more yiffing
2008-02-17 23:10 < quanticle> White_Cat: I know Kempachi
2008-02-17 23:10 < White_Cat> you met him
2008-02-17 23:10 < quanticle> White_Cat: I don't watch the dubbed version, I watch the subtitled ones
2008-02-17 23:10 < White_Cat> and are still alive?
2008-02-17 23:10 < White_Cat> wow
2008-02-17 23:10 < White_Cat> you must kick ass
2008-02-17 23:11 < White_Cat> :P
2008-02-17 23:11 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, he doesn't even know the name of his own soul slayer ;)
2008-02-17 23:11 < White_Cat> he doesnt care
2008-02-17 23:11 < Arwen> please tell me we're not talking about Blech
2008-02-17 23:11 < White_Cat> like he needs bankai?
2008-02-17 23:11 < quanticle> White_Cat: But how much more awesome and unstoppable would he be with bankai?
2008-02-17 23:11 < White_Cat> he wouldnt like that
2008-02-17 23:11 * Arwen recalls that there was a huge debate over what name to give a minor character in DBZ. GOD...
2008-02-17 23:12 < White_Cat> he likes to fight not win
2008-02-17 23:12 < quanticle> That's true.
2008-02-17 23:12 < quanticle> He let Ichigo cut him up pretty bad. I think he's a masochist.
2008-02-17 23:12 < White_Cat> why do you think he has that eyepatch
2008-02-17 23:12 < quanticle> Masochism...
2008-02-17 23:12 < White_Cat> no
2008-02-17 23:12 < White_Cat> how fun is it to squash a bug?
2008-02-17 23:13 < White_Cat> for centuries?
2008-02-17 23:13 < quanticle> I don't know. Byakuya seems to find it rather enjoyable.
2008-02-17 23:13 < Arwen> White_Cat, have you ever tried burning ants with a magnifying glass?
2008-02-17 23:13 < Arwen> it's hilarious
2008-02-17 23:13 < quanticle> Arwen: Its even more fun with bees.
2008-02-17 23:13 < White_Cat> Arwen unlike you I spend my time on wikipedia
2008-02-17 23:13 < Arwen> s/wikipedia/jerking off to cartoons
2008-02-17 23:13 < White_Cat> I dont jerk off
2008-02-17 23:13 * White_Cat <- a girl
2008-02-17 23:14 < quanticle> Arwen <- pwned
2008-02-17 23:14 < Arwen> no girls on teh interwebs
2008-02-17 23:14 < Arwen> thank you
2008-02-17 23:14 < Arwen> and who says girls can't jerk off?
2008-02-17 23:14 < quanticle> The internet: Where men are men, women are men, and kids are FBI agents?
2008-02-17 23:15 < The359> I've seen some girls jerk off
2008-02-17 23:15 < The359> it was mighty impressive
2008-02-17 23:15 < quanticle> The359: And you didn'
2008-02-17 23:15 < quanticle> t help them?
2008-02-17 23:15 < Arwen> um... pics please
2008-02-17 23:15 < quanticle> The359: Also, this thread is useless without pics
2008-02-17 23:17 < White_Cat> Arwen I never said girls cant
2008-02-17 23:17 < White_Cat> I said I cant
2008-02-17 23:17 * White_Cat is stupid like that
2008-02-17 23:17 < White_Cat> did I say stupid to myself?
2008-02-17 23:17 < Arwen> o.O
2008-02-17 23:17 < White_Cat> I meant moronic
2008-02-17 23:17 < White_Cat> god I implied I have a positive IQ
2008-02-17 23:19 < The359> talk to yourself much?
2008-02-17 23:20 < Arwen> bah, I bet "she" masturbates to her own voice :-P
2008-02-17 23:21 < The359> I know I do
2008-02-17 23:21 < quanticle> The359: Ok, now that was just creepy
2008-02-17 23:30 < Lucifer_Cat> [A tumble weed rolls past]
2008-02-17 23:34 < The359> needs moer jerking off
2008-02-17 23:36 < Lucifer_Cat> The359: may i suggest [[thong]]
2008-02-17 23:38 < Rinn> [[Thong in the news]]
2008-02-17 23:39 < Xihix> that has to be the weirdest article ever
2008-02-17 23:39 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-02-17 23:40 < Xihix> Anyone wanna help
2008-02-17 23:40 < Lucifer_Cat> a whole article for that
2008-02-17 23:40 < Xihix> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:69.104.65.61
2008-02-17 23:40 < Lucifer_Cat> with?
2008-02-17 23:40 < Syntaxx00> I wonder if its possible to hack WiMAX...
2008-02-17 23:40 < Xihix> someone tell that guy to shut up. Wes Archer can edit his article if he wants.
2008-02-17 23:40 < The359> ...
2008-02-17 23:40 < Syntaxx00> WiMAX is wireless connection that is available throughout the city.. ususally covering 8km^2 area.
2008-02-17 23:41 < Syntaxx00> If we could tap in to that...
2008-02-17 23:41 * bumm13 thinks that that "article" is basically one big news/trivia section
2008-02-17 23:41 < Lucifer_Cat> i nominate the article for deletion
2008-02-17 23:41 < bumm13> works for me
2008-02-17 23:41 < The359> we don't ignore rules just for your Simpsons friends, Xihix
2008-02-17 23:43 < The359> I'm pretty sure RichiH is fine with giving a warning about COI
2008-02-17 23:43 < Lucifer_Cat> Xihix: editing your own article isnt really nice
2008-02-17 23:43 < Xihix> hold on
2008-02-17 23:43 < Xihix> why can't Wes Archer edit his own article?
2008-02-17 23:44 < The359> Possible Conflict of Interest
2008-02-17 23:44 < Xihix> It's very discouraging to edit at all if some guy says you can't edit your own.
2008-02-17 23:44 < The359> How would you know?
2008-02-17 23:44 < Xihix> about what?
2008-02-17 23:45 < The359> whether it is discouraging?
2008-02-17 23:45 < Xihix> You are a first time editor, and a guy tells you you can't edit the article you can edit the easiest
2008-02-17 23:45 < Xihix> your own
2008-02-17 23:45 < Xihix> it's very discouraging.
2008-02-17 23:45 < Syntaxx00> What's a good dsl modem?
2008-02-17 23:45 < Xihix> You saying otherwise would only be because it's me saying it.
2008-02-17 23:45 < The359> If you're ignorant and don't bother to understand rules
2008-02-17 23:45 < The359> Sure
2008-02-17 23:45 < Xihix> You know it's true.
2008-02-17 23:46 < The359> but RichiH handled it quite well
2008-02-17 23:46 < The359> he said it is discouraged
2008-02-17 23:46 < The359> he said just adding a useful link was probably OK
2008-02-17 23:46 < Xihix> it shouldn't be. and as far as I know
2008-02-17 23:46 < Xihix> it isn't..
2008-02-17 23:46 < The359> he recommended possible asking a picture
2008-02-17 23:46 < The359> Read [[WP:COI]], Xihix
2008-02-17 23:46 < The359> You shouldn't write about yourself because of the possibility of bias
2008-02-17 23:47 < Xihix> but he didn't even get a chance to edit his article. and for someone to just come and say you can't
2008-02-17 23:47 < Xihix> is just horrible.
2008-02-17 23:47 < Xihix> You don't know that he'd give his own article bias. it could easily be fixed or undone otherwise, anyway.
2008-02-17 23:47 < The359> uh
2008-02-17 23:47 < The359> he edited his article three times
2008-02-17 23:48 < Lucifer_Cat> Xihix: he could very well add info to the episodes he worked on on their page
2008-02-17 23:48 < Xihix> and the three times he did
2008-02-17 23:48 < Xihix> he added a link, took it out, and added it back in
2008-02-17 23:48 < The359> and he didn't say he couldn't, he just said it's not recommended and not to change other parts of the article
2008-02-17 23:48 < Xihix> a lot of bias, huh?
2008-02-17 23:48 < The359> It's a warning, Xihix
2008-02-17 23:48 < The359> about the possibility of COI in the future
2008-02-17 23:48 < The359> And a recommendation to edit other articles
2008-02-17 23:49 < The359> Also, under [[WP:COI]]
2008-02-17 23:49 < The359> Self-promotion
2008-02-17 23:49 < The359> Conflict of interest often presents itself in the form of self-promotion, including advertising links, personal website links, personal or semi-personal photos, or other material that appears to promote the private or commercial interests of the editor, or their associates.
2008-02-17 23:49 < Xihix> but it's very discouraging
2008-02-17 23:49 < Arwen> In 1999 a Miami University (in Oxford, Ohio) professor was banned from using the school's recreation center because he refused to stop wearing thong swimwear. The professor challenged the school in court.
2008-02-17 23:49 < Arwen> LOL
2008-02-17 23:49 < The359> # Links that appear to promote otherwise obscure individuals by pointing to their personal pages.
2008-02-17 23:50 < The359> So although the link might be helpful to the article, his adding it is a possible Conflict of Interest
2008-02-17 23:50 < Xihix> Even so, what he said
2008-02-17 23:50 < Xihix> had a very discouraging tone.
2008-02-17 23:51 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen: though i dont have anything against men wearing thongs... there are an awful lot of them none of us want to see in thongs
2008-02-17 23:51 < Lucifer_Cat> that goes for both men n women
2008-02-17 23:51 < The359> No, it didn't
2008-02-17 23:51 < The359> RichiH explained it
2008-02-17 23:51 < Xihix> nope
2008-02-17 23:51 < Lucifer_Cat> basically, you shouldnt go all thongy after thirty unless you look like mira sorvino
2008-02-17 23:52 < The359> and recommended not editing anything else on the article
2008-02-17 23:52 < Xihix> he did a bad job of explaining it.
2008-02-17 23:52 < The359> and suggested other ways to improve
2008-02-17 23:52 < The359> whatever Xihix
2008-02-17 23:52 < The359> Go cry to your Simpsons buddies
2008-02-17 23:52 < Xihix> The359, you need an attitude adjucement
2008-02-17 23:52 < Xihix> really.
2008-02-17 23:52 < The359> Yeah, advice from the high schooler
2008-02-17 23:53 < Xihix> middle schooler*
2008-02-17 23:53 < The359> even better
2008-02-17 23:53 < Xihix> and, yes, you do.
2008-02-17 23:53 < Xihix> I'm not going to lie. You are most likely the most negative person on this channel.
2008-02-17 23:53 < Xizer> fried penises
2008-02-17 23:53 < Xihix> Just chill out a little sometimes
2008-02-17 23:53 < Xizer> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2008-02-17 23:54 < Lucifer_Cat> Xihix: prettymuch
2008-02-17 23:54 < Rinn> I think NotACow is more negative.
2008-02-17 23:54 < Xihix> If he is, he's not mean about it.
2008-02-17 23:54 < Xihix> He's usually helpful and insightful
2008-02-17 23:54 < Xihix> and assumes good faith all the time.
2008-02-17 23:55 < The359> Wah, I'm not getting what I want
2008-02-17 23:56 < Lucifer_Cat> Rinn.... that nick reminds me of a detergent from back home
2008-02-17 23:56 * The359 wonders why the Flag of Kosovo was removed from the country info template...
2008-02-17 23:57 < Lubaf> The359: Serbs, most likely.
2008-02-17 23:58 < Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:Ethnic feuders registry]]: I see a great need.
2008-02-17 23:58 < The359> you are too needy
2008-02-17 23:59 < Lubaf> The359: No, I just see great needs where there are none sometimes.
2008-02-17 23:59 < Lubaf> But in this case, I'd say there is a need.
2008-02-17 23:59 < Lubaf> Maybe not great, but a need nevertheless.
2008-02-17 23:59 < The359> {{justdoit}}
2008-02-17 23:59 < Lubaf> The359: I'd like to marinate the idea for a while.
2008-02-18 00:00 < Lubaf> Maybe put it on the Village Pump.
2008-02-18 00:00 < The359> {{doooooooitttttttttt}}
2008-02-18 00:04 < Lubaf> The359: You think it's a good idea?
2008-02-18 00:04 < FastLizard4|Food> {{needsmoardramahz!}}
2008-02-18 00:05 < Lubaf> FastLizard4|Food: [[WP:NEEDSMOARDRAMA]] once existed.
2008-02-18 00:05 < FastLizard4|Food> X-D
2008-02-18 00:05 < Lubaf> It got deleted by some nofunnik.
2008-02-18 00:06 < JohnReaves> Lubaf: See [[WP:RICK]]
2008-02-18 00:07 < Lubaf> JohnReaves: Making the obvious joke, are you?
2008-02-18 00:07 < JohnReaves> Yep
2008-02-18 00:07 < JohnReaves> {{shortcut}} was a great help
2008-02-18 00:14 < Rinn> Lucifer_Cat: A detergent?
2008-02-18 00:14 < Lucifer_Cat> yup
2008-02-18 00:15 < Rinn> I smell a flood.
2008-02-18 00:16 < Rinn> But my nose is clogged, so I'm probably wrong.
2008-02-18 00:16 < Rinn> I guess that was sort of a flood.
2008-02-18 00:17 < zvook> your nose has great power
2008-02-18 00:17 < Lucifer_Cat> a flood?
2008-02-18 00:17 < Lucifer_Cat> anyways well it was one of the leading brands
2008-02-18 00:18 < Lucifer_Cat> much like how MS is a leading brand in OS
2008-02-18 00:18 < Rinn> Those were all Not_the_NSA?
2008-02-18 00:18 < Rinn> Woohoo!
2008-02-18 00:18 < zocky> marks and spencers is a leading brand in oral surgery?
2008-02-18 00:20 < bumm13> hiya zocky
2008-02-18 00:20 < zocky> hi bumm
2008-02-18 00:20 < zocky> what's up?
2008-02-18 00:20 < bumm13> not much
2008-02-18 00:20 < bumm13> I have a cold :<
2008-02-18 00:20 < zocky> bumm13, so does my part of europe
2008-02-18 00:20 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-18 00:21 < zocky> it was so mild just a week ago :\
2008-02-18 00:21 < bumm13> it's been mild here lately (in the daytime)
2008-02-18 00:22 < Mike_H> It was 84 here today :<
2008-02-18 00:22 < bumm13> zocky: it seems one of your neighbors has decided to assert independence
2008-02-18 00:22 < bumm13> Mike_H: frown???
2008-02-18 00:22 < zocky> i helped a friend with some science article he's writing, and we ended up doing it until 5:30 am
2008-02-18 00:22 < Mike_H> it's February
2008-02-18 00:22 < bumm13> that's warm
2008-02-18 00:22 < Mike_H> yes
2008-02-18 00:22 < Mike_H> and I don't like it
2008-02-18 00:22 < zocky> so then I tried walking home, but gave up after a minute and called a taxi
2008-02-18 00:22 < Rinn> Not_the_NSA: What's the deal with having all those different nicks in the channel?
2008-02-18 00:22 < bumm13> Mike_H: travel northward ;)
2008-02-18 00:22 < Rinn> Huge public logging operation?
2008-02-18 00:23 < Not_the_NSA> Rinn: XD
2008-02-18 00:23 * Not_the_NSA was trying to be Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-18 00:23 < zocky> bumm13, bah, we're used to various parts of countries declaring independence. often followed by wars :\
2008-02-18 00:23 * Not_the_NSA notes when Ceiling_Cat had all his cats no one complained
2008-02-18 00:23 < bumm13> true
2008-02-18 00:23 < Rinn> Operation This Is What I Think Of Your Policies
2008-02-18 00:24 < bumm13> Mike_H: you know those Solid Gold '79 pilot clips you linked me yesterday?
2008-02-18 00:26 < zocky> bumm13, i'm not that worried about kosovo. it's going to be a ghetto/condominium of the local criminals and the corrupt have-beens in the international for the foreseeable future, without road connections to anywhere and probably even without electricity, but I don't expect open warfare.
2008-02-18 00:26 < zocky> i'm more worried about bosnia
2008-02-18 00:26 < bumm13> I see
2008-02-18 00:26 < zocky> if albanians can seceed from serbia, who says serbs can't seceed from bosnia
2008-02-18 00:26 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-18 00:27 < zocky> it has potential to cause serious crap
2008-02-18 00:27 < bumm13> yes, it does
2008-02-18 00:28 < bumm13> we've already seen how it works :\
2008-02-18 00:29 < zocky> who knows what will happen if russians and the chinese start recognizing various breakaway republics from countries they're not fond of
2008-02-18 00:29 < White_Cat> zocky I know what will happen
2008-02-18 00:29 < White_Cat> russia and USA would break up
2008-02-18 00:30 < White_Cat> and start waring
2008-02-18 00:30 < zocky> nah, they'll use other people and other places for their wars
2008-02-18 00:30 < zocky> like they always did
2008-02-18 00:30 < White_Cat> zocky well that too
2008-02-18 00:30 < White_Cat> we will have more articles tho
2008-02-18 00:30 < White_Cat> you know
2008-02-18 00:30 < White_Cat> bush invaded iraq just so we have something to write about
2008-02-18 00:31 < FastLizard4|Food> ¡ʎʞɔoz s,ʇɪ 'ʎəɥ
2008-02-18 00:32 < White_Cat> zoc!
2008-02-18 00:33 < White_Cat> oh a thought
2008-02-18 00:33 < White_Cat> technicaly bush can become the vice president
2008-02-18 00:34 < FastLizard4|Food> of, crap
2008-02-18 00:34 < FastLizard4|Food> *oh
2008-02-18 00:34 < Rinn> That would be pretty interesting.
2008-02-18 00:35 < Rinn> Bush servers another term by becoming the vice president and having the president assassinated.
2008-02-18 00:35 < Rinn> -r
2008-02-18 00:35 < White_Cat> actualy no
2008-02-18 00:35 < White_Cat> thats also an official 3rd term
2008-02-18 00:35 < Lucifer_Cat> White_Cat: its on wiki. the VP has to be someone eligible to be prez
2008-02-18 00:35 < Rinn> Oh.
2008-02-18 00:35 < Rinn> There goes my conspiracy theory.
2008-02-18 00:35 < Lucifer_Cat> so basically anyone whos served more than half of term #2 isnt eligible
2008-02-18 00:35 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-18 00:36 < White_Cat> then sec of defense
2008-02-18 00:36 < Lucifer_Cat> else Billy can be Hillys mate
2008-02-18 00:36 < White_Cat> and assasinate bot prez and vice prez
2008-02-18 00:36 < White_Cat> Lucifer_Cat if it is all the same to you, lets not mate
2008-02-18 00:37 < Lucifer_Cat> White_Cat: the person to become the prez in case P and VP pop would be speaker
2008-02-18 00:37 < White_Cat> assasinate him too
2008-02-18 00:37 < Lucifer_Cat> ryt now, nancy pelosi
2008-02-18 00:37 < White_Cat> no he wouldnt be prez
2008-02-18 00:37 < White_Cat> *she
2008-02-18 00:37 < White_Cat> shed be lynched before
2008-02-18 00:38 < White_Cat> american isnt ready for a speaker prez
2008-02-18 00:39 < Lucifer_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession
2008-02-18 00:39 < Lucifer_Cat> so look at that list and decide who to kill
2008-02-18 00:40 < Rinn> Next on Fox News: Was Wikipedia an accessory to the presidential assassination? Stay tuned!
2008-02-18 00:40 < White_Cat> so what if only Carlos Gutierrez is left alive?
2008-02-18 00:40 < Lucifer_Cat> rinn lol
2008-02-18 00:41 < White_Cat> Rinn BS
2008-02-18 00:41 < White_Cat> fox would NEVER report like that
2008-02-18 00:41 < White_Cat> more like "Stay Tuned for our coverage of the fascist wikipedian plot to assasinate the president"
2008-02-18 00:44 < Rinn> Gerald Ford looked a lot like Kelsey Grammer.
2008-02-18 00:45 < Mike_H> On what grade of crack?
2008-02-18 00:45 * White_Cat cracks Mike2
2008-02-18 00:45 < White_Cat> err
2008-02-18 00:45 < White_Cat> Mike_H
2008-02-18 00:45 < White_Cat> so mikeH you had fun with the dictionary?
2008-02-18 00:45 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-02-18 00:45 < Mike_H> I stumbled on some "other suggested words"
2008-02-18 00:45 < Mike_H> and found "perineum"
2008-02-18 00:45 < Rinn> How can we have two Mikes and no karaoke?
2008-02-18 00:45 < Mike_H> :o
2008-02-18 00:46 * Lucifer_Cat is now known as Karaoke_Cat
2008-02-18 00:47 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Atchison_David_Rice_-_Plattsburg_MO_3.jpg
2008-02-18 00:48 < Rinn> [[Image:Gerald_Ford.jpg]] [[Image:Kelsey_Grammer_fleet_week.jpg]]
2008-02-18 00:48 < Rinn> Definitely some resemblance.
2008-02-18 00:50 < Rinn> Wow, the Grammers haven't been too lucky.
2008-02-18 00:50 < White_Cat> Mike_H perineum?
2008-02-18 00:50 < Rinn> In 1968, when Grammer was thirteen, his father, whom he had only seen twice since his parents' divorce, was murdered on the front lawn of his home in the U.S. Virgin Islands;[2] in 1975, his sister was raped and murdered after being abducted outside a Red Lobster restaurant in Colorado Springs, Colorado where her boyfriend worked.[3] Grammer has sworn to prevent the murderer from being paroled. [4] In 1980, his twin half-brothers were killed
2008-02-18 00:50 < FastLizard4|Food> /kill Rinn Excess flood
2008-02-18 00:51 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession#Theories_regarding_exhaustion_of_the_list
2008-02-18 00:51 < White_Cat> I like this
2008-02-18 00:52 < White_Cat> imagine in a national crisis all senate is doing is voting for a new prez
2008-02-18 00:52 < Rinn> That's not hard to imagine.
2008-02-18 00:53 < Xizer> what happens if someone nukes the entire u.s.
2008-02-18 00:53 < Xizer> Who would be president then, a diplomat located in a different country perhaps?
2008-02-18 00:53 < bumm13> Mike_H: you know those Solid Gold '79 pilot clips you linked me yesterday?
2008-02-18 00:53 < White_Cat> Xihix no
2008-02-18 00:53 < White_Cat> only cabinet members and speaker can be prez
2008-02-18 00:53 < Lubaf> Yoga Fire!
2008-02-18 00:53 < Lucifer_Cat> Xizer: thats sorta not quite possible unless china has more nukes than u think
2008-02-18 00:54 < Xizer> or if a virus infects our computer systems and we nuke ourselves
2008-02-18 00:54 < Xizer> much more efficient
2008-02-18 00:54 < Lucifer_Cat> also if all of US is nukes, the diplomats wont have much to govern over
2008-02-18 00:54 < Xizer> What about Americans abroad and troops stationed overseas?
2008-02-18 00:54 < Lucifer_Cat> Xizer: you watch too many movies too seriously :P
2008-02-18 00:54 < Xizer> We've got over 100,000 Americans in Iraq right now
2008-02-18 00:54 < White_Cat> Xihix US cant nuke itself
2008-02-18 00:54 < White_Cat> missles require US Prez's aproval
2008-02-18 00:54 < Xizer> Iraq would be America's new capital
2008-02-18 00:55 < White_Cat> wait
2008-02-18 00:55 < White_Cat> bush would aprove that
2008-02-18 00:55 < White_Cat> -_-'
2008-02-18 00:55 < Rinn> Xizer: Whoever builds the best weapon.
2008-02-18 00:55 < Xihix> White_Cat
2008-02-18 00:55 < Xihix> wrong guy
2008-02-18 00:55 < bumm13> ok, wtf?
2008-02-18 00:55 < Xihix> You've been saying my name instead of Xizer for a while now
2008-02-18 00:55 < Xihix> haha
2008-02-18 00:55 < bumm13> this is the third time I've been automatically logged out of WP
2008-02-18 00:55 < Xizer> ok let's say that aliens with a really powerful weapon destroy the entire continental united states
2008-02-18 00:55 < Xizer> they just glass it over
2008-02-18 00:56 < Xizer> I think our Congress needs to be thinking about these things, we are not as prepared as we could be
2008-02-18 00:56 < Lubaf> Yoga Flamewar!
2008-02-18 00:56 < White_Cat> oh thats fun
2008-02-18 00:57 < White_Cat> all thats left of the US being Hawaii
2008-02-18 00:57 < Rinn> And Alaska!
2008-02-18 00:57 < White_Cat> alaska isnt a real state
2008-02-18 00:57 < White_Cat> only 2 people live there
2008-02-18 00:57 < White_Cat> the two senators
2008-02-18 00:57 < Xizer> Alaska is a myth
2008-02-18 00:57 < White_Cat> Alaska is a sockpuppet of canada
2008-02-18 00:58 < Xihix> White_Cat
2008-02-18 00:58 < Xihix> lets make some lovin'.
2008-02-18 00:58 * White_Cat tosses Xihix out of the nearest airlock...
2008-02-18 00:58 * bumm13 "enjoys" his cough drop
2008-02-18 00:58 < White_Cat> Xihix you even follow up the rfar?
2008-02-18 00:58 < Xizer> We need to put the United States on a giant tugboat
2008-02-18 00:58 < Xihix> White_Cat
2008-02-18 00:58 < Xihix> I'm not Xizer
2008-02-18 00:58 < Xizer> And move it out near Hawaii
2008-02-18 00:59 < Xizer> It's always a nice temperature there
2008-02-18 00:59 < Xihix> you've been talking to Xizer for the past few minutes.
2008-02-18 00:59 < White_Cat> ...
2008-02-18 00:59 < Xihix> Yes, the times you said Xihix, you were talking to Xizer
2008-02-18 00:59 < White_Cat> X****
2008-02-18 00:59 < Xihix> It's not as bad as Xihiz, people always confused me with him
2008-02-18 01:00 < Rinn> There's a Xihiz?
2008-02-18 01:00 < Xihix> Rinn, yes
2008-02-18 01:00 < Lubaf> Yoga Fire!
2008-02-18 01:00 < Lubaf> Yoga Flamewar!
2008-02-18 01:00 < Xihia> indeed
2008-02-18 01:00 < Xihix> yeah.
2008-02-18 01:01 < Xihis> yup
2008-02-18 01:01 < neskaya> Too many x nicks.
2008-02-18 01:01 < Xihix> I was the original... :(
2008-02-18 01:01 < neskaya> Still too many.
2008-02-18 01:01 < neskaya> They're confusing as all hell.
2008-02-18 01:01 < neskaya> Welcome back Mark_Ryan.
2008-02-18 01:01 < Mark_Ryan> why thank you
2008-02-18 01:01 < Mark_Ryan> i had a refreshing 1 minute away from you all
2008-02-18 01:02 < Xihix> Has #wikipedia ever had a mass orgy?
2008-02-18 01:02 < Xiyours> If they did, they didn't invite me.
2008-02-18 01:02 < Xihix> that sucks.
2008-02-18 01:03 < Xizer> So who's excited for our next president, HILLARY CLINTON
2008-02-18 01:03 < Xizer> whoo!!
2008-02-18 01:03 < Xihix> noooo
2008-02-18 01:03 < Xihix> RON PAUL
2008-02-18 01:03 < Monobi> Xizer, McCain will win
2008-02-18 01:03 < Xizer> hillary for you and me, bring back our democracy
2008-02-18 01:03 < Monobi> He's the most middle ground
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xihix> McCain is the worst Republican ever
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xizer> McCain is about as far right as it gets
2008-02-18 01:04 < FastLizard4|Food> I agree with Xihix
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xizer> he's an insane senile old man
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xihix> War mongling, non concervative
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xihix> he's just crazy
2008-02-18 01:04 < Monobi> Xizer, he's not far right...
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xizer> Yes he is
2008-02-18 01:04 < Monobi> hardly
2008-02-18 01:04 < Xizer> show me something liberal he's done
2008-02-18 01:04 < Monobi> he's uber liberal for a republican
2008-02-18 01:04 < neskaya> Mark_Ryan: I'm sure that one minute away from this room was heavenly. :D
2008-02-18 01:04 < FastLizard4|Food> I'm leaning more towards Obama for dem and Huckabee or Paul for rep
2008-02-18 01:05 < Xizer> just the other day he voted against a bill banning torture
2008-02-18 01:05 < Monobi> Xizer, immigration
2008-02-18 01:05 < neskaya> Republicans need to go burn in the hell that they have been creating.
2008-02-18 01:05 < neskaya> period.
2008-02-18 01:05 < Xizer> he also supports telecom immunity
2008-02-18 01:05 < Xihix> The best running would be Paul against Obama.
2008-02-18 01:05 < Monobi> Xizer, gay marriage, abortion?
2008-02-18 01:05 < White_Cat> right
2008-02-18 01:05 < Xizer> He is pro-life
2008-02-18 01:05 < Monobi> he supports (to some extend) those
2008-02-18 01:05 < Monobi> Xizer, not entirely
2008-02-18 01:05 < Xizer> No he doesn't
2008-02-18 01:05 < White_Cat> US isnt ready for a bald president (McCain)
2008-02-18 01:05 < neskaya> LOL White_Cat.
2008-02-18 01:05 < Xizer> He voted for the federal marriage amendment
2008-02-18 01:05 < Monobi> White_Cat, great rationale
2008-02-18 01:05 < neskaya> Seriously though. Even if I could vote, I would NEVER vote for a pro-life president. It's my body.
2008-02-18 01:06 < Monobi> Xizer, hillary voted for iraq for no child left behind
2008-02-18 01:06 < White_Cat> neskaya well
2008-02-18 01:06 < neskaya> I'm a rape victim once already. I want to be able to choose to have an abortion.
2008-02-18 01:06 < White_Cat> it technialy is someone elses body
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xizer> No Child Left Behind is good legislation
2008-02-18 01:06 < neskaya> White_Cat: there is no "well" in this discussion, sorry.
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xizer> It's working
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xihix> No Child Left Behind is the worst piece of crap ever
2008-02-18 01:06 < neskaya> No child left behind fucked up the school system, did you know that?
2008-02-18 01:06 < White_Cat> neskaya what about oil well?
2008-02-18 01:06 < Monobi> abortion is aborting a child's body
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xihix> Our education right now is probably at it's worst.
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xizer> Our school system is better since NCLB
2008-02-18 01:06 < neskaya> Because of No Child Left Behind, I won't graduate in 2009.
2008-02-18 01:06 < neskaya> Or 2010.
2008-02-18 01:06 < White_Cat> neskaya no child left behind left children behind
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xihix> Wrong.
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xizer> It has more funding
2008-02-18 01:06 < Monobi> Like our education system was ever good ?
2008-02-18 01:06 < Xihix> Neskaya, why though?
2008-02-18 01:06 < White_Cat> Monobi oh you are too young
2008-02-18 01:07 < White_Cat> back in 1846 it was great
2008-02-18 01:07 < neskaya> Because of No Child Left Behind, I might never graduate from high school. Because NCLB changed the high school credit requirements.
2008-02-18 01:07 < White_Cat> we dipped people in water to check if they were withces or not
2008-02-18 01:07 < Monobi> White_Cat, back when you were around ;)
2008-02-18 01:07 < Xizer> It has improved reading
2008-02-18 01:07 < White_Cat> purely scientifict
2008-02-18 01:07 < Xihix> Xizer, who gives a shit
2008-02-18 01:07 < Monobi> neskaya, well, NCLB doesn't change much
2008-02-18 01:07 < Xihix> anyone who was able to pass the first grade should be able to read.
2008-02-18 01:07 * neskaya is debating ignoring this room again.
2008-02-18 01:07 < Monobi> :p
2008-02-18 01:07 < neskaya> Hrm, probably a good idea.
2008-02-18 01:08 < Xizer> Because of testing, No Child Left Behind has also increased general knowledge
2008-02-18 01:08 < White_Cat> neskaya oh come on
2008-02-18 01:08 < neskaya> Monobi: still, can you understand why I'm so strongly pro-choice?
2008-02-18 01:08 < Xizer> Students must actually study now
2008-02-18 01:08 < Monobi> neskaya, yes
2008-02-18 01:08 < neskaya> Xizer: Uh, no. Because of teesting, they have to teach to tests and not to actual education.
2008-02-18 01:08 < Xihix> Xizer, that doesn't make it a good act at all.
2008-02-18 01:08 < Monobi> although rape is different from an slut
2008-02-18 01:08 < White_Cat> there is nothing more amusing that a pro-life person supporting capital punishment
2008-02-18 01:08 < neskaya> Monobi: most definitely, really.
2008-02-18 01:08 < TroubleClef> neskaya: Kill them before they can feel misery?
2008-02-18 01:08 < Xihix> Neskaya is completely right.
2008-02-18 01:08 < Monobi> White_Cat, er, not really
2008-02-18 01:08 < White_Cat> Monobi it is somewhat self contradictory no?
2008-02-18 01:09 < Monobi> White_Cat, a pro-lifer supporting capital punishment claims that capital punishment is justifiable
2008-02-18 01:09 < Xihix> Question! Is Ron Paul the only candidate who wanst to get rid of NCLB?
2008-02-18 01:09 < Xihix> wants*
2008-02-18 01:09 < neskaya> Xihix: I should know. I'm a junior. I have sophomore level credits in high school and have been denied special education benefits twice so far.
2008-02-18 01:09 < Monobi> Xihix, doubt it
2008-02-18 01:09 < neskaya> With special education benefits I might have the possibility of graduating.
2008-02-18 01:09 < White_Cat> Monobi so if someone is abused and raped they are forced to grow up a baby they hate?
2008-02-18 01:09 < White_Cat> but the rapist gets away with death
2008-02-18 01:09 < Xihix> Neskaya, are you saying you need more help, or less?
2008-02-18 01:09 < Monobi> White_Cat, I stated:
2008-02-18 01:09 < Xihix> not sure where you're getting at.
2008-02-18 01:09 < Xizer> shut up about ron paul
2008-02-18 01:09 < Monobi> <Monobi> although rape is different from an slut
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xihix> Xizer, you shut up.
2008-02-18 01:10 < neskaya> Xihix: Uh, more. NCLB changed requirements for special education students to graduate.
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xizer> Ron Paul's whole presidential run was to get re-elected to his Congress seat
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xizer> He was never serious about being prez
2008-02-18 01:10 < TroubleClef> White_Cat: Adoption?
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xihix> Xizer, he's been getting re-elected for many years now
2008-02-18 01:10 < neskaya> TroubleClef: Uh, NO.
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xizer> At least he brought all the crazies out into the woodwork where we could easily spot them
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xihix> he doesn't need national attention to get elected in one district
2008-02-18 01:10 < neskaya> TroubleClef: there's the issue of the emotional damage carrying a rape baby to term can do to the mother.
2008-02-18 01:10 < White_Cat> TroubleClef you make it sound like an easy binary decision
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xizer> His whole presidential campaign was to raise funding for his Congress re-election
2008-02-18 01:10 < Xizer> That's it
2008-02-18 01:10 < TroubleClef> neskaya: So you kill them instead?

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