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2008-02-16 21:37 < ggreer`> heh
2008-02-16 21:37 < ggreer`> wikipedia supports terrorism :)
2008-02-16 21:37 < Hildanknight> Ceiling_Cat, aren't you Raul654?
2008-02-16 21:37 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl...
2008-02-16 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> Hildanknight - occasionally
2008-02-16 21:38 < Hildanknight> Well, if you are currently Raul654, I would appreciate your input on this:
2008-02-16 21:38 < Hildanknight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:SG!#National_Day_celebrations_on_Wikipedia
2008-02-16 21:38 < Messedrocker> Raul654 is his alter ego
2008-02-16 21:38 < Hildanknight> Read Jacklee's comment.
2008-02-16 21:40 < Ceiling_Cat> so in essense you want a singapore-related FA and 4 singapore related DYKs
2008-02-16 21:40 < Ceiling_Cat> all at the same time
2008-02-16 21:40 < zvook> they wanna aim for that
2008-02-16 21:41 < Hildanknight> DYK has 4 updates a day, remember?
2008-02-16 21:41 < zvook> it'll be worth it purely for all the bias accusations on main page talk
2008-02-16 21:41 < Hildanknight> So each update will have one Singapore-related DYK.
2008-02-16 21:41 < Ceiling_Cat> ah
2008-02-16 21:42 < Buffalosoldier92> President George W. Bush said that "our country is in more danger of an attack" because of Congress' failure to adopt a Senate bill that would have renewed a law that made it easier for the government to spy on foreign phone calls and e-mails that pass through the United States.
2008-02-16 21:42 < bumm13> lol
2008-02-16 21:42 < Buffalosoldier92> Sorry 'bout the flood but...
2008-02-16 21:42 < Buffalosoldier92> US, Iran Held Secret Meeting
2008-02-16 21:42 < Buffalosoldier92> Associated Press | February 16, 2008
2008-02-16 21:42 < Buffalosoldier92> WASHINGTON - A U.S. official met secretly with Iranian banking officials and senior government aides who oppose punishing the Islamic nation for not doing enough to stop money laundering and terrorism funding, The Associated Press has learned.
2008-02-16 21:42 < Buffalosoldier92> The talks last month in Paris took place despite the Bush administration's near-absolute ban on formal U.S.-Iran contact. They also occurred against the backdrop of Tehran's attempts to avert the imposition of new U.N. sanctions over its suspect nuclear program.
2008-02-16 21:42 < bumm13> :x
2008-02-16 21:42 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: Yeah. I don't get how that works, especially given that existing wiretaps won't be canceled by the expiration of the law
2008-02-16 21:43 * Buffalosoldier92 just provides the headlines, not the actual information
2008-02-16 21:43 < Lycurgus> the real question is how much danger he's in of dying before being brought to justice as a war criminal
2008-02-16 21:43 < Buffalosoldier92> Hey, he has less than a year
2008-02-16 21:46 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Who?
2008-02-16 21:47 < Buffalosoldier92> I'd guess George "Dubya" Bush
2008-02-16 21:47 < quanticle> Bush isn't that old
2008-02-16 21:47 < Buffalosoldier92> He isn't.
2008-02-16 21:47 < Xihix> Anyone here a health expert?
2008-02-16 21:47 < quanticle> Xihix: I wouldn't trust IRC medical advice.
2008-02-16 21:47 < Xihix> well, any input would be nice.
2008-02-16 21:47 < Buffalosoldier92> That depends, what is it for?
2008-02-16 21:47 < Xihix> it's weight related
2008-02-16 21:48 < Buffalosoldier92> As in...?
2008-02-16 21:48 < Buffalosoldier92> I can help... a little
2008-02-16 21:48 < Xihix> well, for about two weeks
2008-02-16 21:48 < quanticle> Xihix: YOU'RE FAT. LOSE SOME WEIGHT AND GET OFF IRC ;p
2008-02-16 21:48 < quanticle> lol
2008-02-16 21:48 < Xihix> after I got sick, I just started to eat way less.
2008-02-16 21:48 < Alkivar> anyone feel like closing an afd already
2008-02-16 21:48 < Buffalosoldier92> uh huh
2008-02-16 21:48 < Alkivar> its clear snowball material
2008-02-16 21:48 < Xihix> And I've lost like 20 lb in the past two weeks
2008-02-16 21:48 < Buffalosoldier92> keep goin
2008-02-16 21:48 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Anonymous_%28group%29
2008-02-16 21:48 < quanticle> Xihix: Thats not good
2008-02-16 21:48 < Buffalosoldier92> That's happened to me before...
2008-02-16 21:48 < Xihix> now, is this dangerous at all?
2008-02-16 21:48 < Lycurgus> quanticle: the current POTUS, i.e. for the crime of war of agression, as applied to those defendents in the Nuremburg process that didn't off themselves first.
2008-02-16 21:48 < Alkivar> its like 95% keep right now
2008-02-16 21:48 < quanticle> Xihix: You should see a doctor
2008-02-16 21:49 < Buffalosoldier92> Xihix: That could be dangerous.
2008-02-16 21:49 < ALLSTARecho> Betacommand: Are you here?
2008-02-16 21:49 < Betacommand> ALLSTARecho: yeah
2008-02-16 21:49 < Buffalosoldier92> I lost ten pounds when I got sick, but I was sick for one week with a horrid case of the flu.
2008-02-16 21:49 < Xihix> I mean, I don't really mind the weight loss, it's nice. But, I can clearly tell my calorie intake is in the few one hundreds
2008-02-16 21:49 < Buffalosoldier92> What are you sick with?
2008-02-16 21:49 < ALLSTARecho> Betacommand: Issues with BetacommandBot? See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Code_Pink&action=history
2008-02-16 21:49 < Xihix> Well, I'm not so sick anymore.
2008-02-16 21:50 < Xihix> I just... don't know, don't feel like eating like I used to.
2008-02-16 21:50 < Buffalosoldier92> Hm...
2008-02-16 21:50 < Betacommand> ALLSTARecho: slight bug
2008-02-16 21:50 < Xihix> Like, I've lost interest in eating foods that have many calories or anything. I'm fearing that it may be a developing case of anorexia or something.
2008-02-16 21:50 < Buffalosoldier92> Anorexia is knowingly starving yourself
2008-02-16 21:51 < ALLSTARecho> Betacommand: figured as much, just wanted to make sure before I revert.. didn't know if you were testing in a random place or something like that.
2008-02-16 21:51 < Xihix> I dunno... I might subconsensially be starving myself
2008-02-16 21:51 < bumm13> Anorexia isn't about that, at least not primarily
2008-02-16 21:51 < Xihix> Like, I want to lose the weight, I'm not minding it.
2008-02-16 21:51 < Betacommand> ALLSTARecho: I fixed it
2008-02-16 21:51 < Betacommand> dont revert
2008-02-16 21:51 < bumm13> it's a psychological condition rooted in feeling unable to control your life situation
2008-02-16 21:51 < Buffalosoldier92> That too
2008-02-16 21:51 < Xihix> but I fear it may get dangerous.
2008-02-16 21:51 < Betacommand> ALLSTARecho: the bot reverted itself
2008-02-16 21:51 < Xihix> I'm only 14, and in the prime of growing.
2008-02-16 21:51 < bumm13> (thus, attempt to over-control what one eats to extremes)
2008-02-16 21:51 < Xihix> so... I dunno what to do.
2008-02-16 21:52 * Buffalosoldier92 is 15 and in the prime of growin too...
2008-02-16 21:52 < bumm13> :)
2008-02-16 21:52 < Buffalosoldier92> What were you sick with?
2008-02-16 21:52 < bumm13> youngin'
2008-02-16 21:52 * bumm13 has a cold :<
2008-02-16 21:52 < Xihix> I think it was just a cold. But it was like two weeks ago
2008-02-16 21:52 < Xihix> I got a small cold last week too
2008-02-16 21:52 < bumm13> all sorts of crud going around
2008-02-16 21:52 < Xihix> but it went away
2008-02-16 21:52 < Buffalosoldier92> Colds don't cause weight loss like that...
2008-02-16 21:52 < Buffalosoldier92> At least for me...
2008-02-16 21:52 < Xihix> I think I'm sick once again though, but it's just a stuffy nose
2008-02-16 21:52 < ALLSTARecho> Betacommand: OK, I see where the user before the bot used the ANI tag which he shouldn't have done in the first place
2008-02-16 21:52 < ALLSTARecho> thanks
2008-02-16 21:52 < Buffalosoldier92> Ah
2008-02-16 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> oh man
2008-02-16 21:53 * Ceiling_Cat is falling-down tired
2008-02-16 21:53 < Xihix> But, again, I think it might be subconsious, me eating less.
2008-02-16 21:53 < bumm13> sleep!
2008-02-16 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> 14 1/2 hours of quiz bowl
2008-02-16 21:53 < bumm13> :o
2008-02-16 21:53 < Buffalosoldier92> Maybe
2008-02-16 21:53 < bumm13> who won?
2008-02-16 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> Maryland cleaned up
2008-02-16 21:53 < Xihix> And, like I mentioned
2008-02-16 21:53 < Buffalosoldier92> I'd say try eating somethin small, then work your way up... but if you feel sick from it, go to the doctor.
2008-02-16 21:53 < Xihix> I'm not exactly disliking losing the weight.
2008-02-16 21:53 * Buffalosoldier92 shrugs
2008-02-16 21:54 < Ceiling_Cat> (we expected they would; they have a pretty good shot of winning nationals this year)
2008-02-16 21:54 < Buffalosoldier92> weight loss from a virus isn't exactly good...
2008-02-16 21:54 < Xihix> I'm just worried that it may effect me growing.
2008-02-16 21:54 < Xihix> my*
2008-02-16 21:54 < Xihix> Well, it's not a virus.
2008-02-16 21:54 < Ceiling_Cat> I was very happy that I correctly guessed/remembered the patron saint of scientists :)
2008-02-16 21:54 < Xihix> I think that once I started to eat less when I got sick
2008-02-16 21:54 < Xihix> I just started eating way less afterwords
2008-02-16 21:54 < Ceiling_Cat> I named 2 wikipedia servers after him :)
2008-02-16 21:54 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-16 21:54 < Buffalosoldier92> You got used to it?
2008-02-16 21:54 < Xihix> Yeah.
2008-02-16 21:55 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: What is the patron saint of scientists?
2008-02-16 21:55 < bumm13> "Florida Panthers forward Richard Zednik was released from a hospital and he returned to Florida five days after his neck was cut by the skate of a teammate during a game in Buffalo."
2008-02-16 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> St. Albertus Magnus
2008-02-16 21:55 < Xihix> I'm not keeping up with my calorie intake too much. But right now, it's gotta be less than 500 calories
2008-02-16 21:55 < bumm13> it sliced his carotid artery :X
2008-02-16 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> not exactly one of the more well-known ones
2008-02-16 21:55 < Buffalosoldier92> That's not a good thing Xihix
2008-02-16 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> oh, I also got all the weird stuff
2008-02-16 21:55 < Xihix> Yeah, exactly
2008-02-16 21:56 < Buffalosoldier92> Heh... I should be takin in 2,100 calories a day
2008-02-16 21:56 < bumm13> Aztec deities? ;)
2008-02-16 21:56 < ggreer`> Xihix: how much do you weigh?
2008-02-16 21:56 < Ceiling_Cat> I got herpes (the virus family off of descriptions of several of its members), Botswana (off of a clue about it having the world's highest AIDS weight) and fetishes
2008-02-16 21:56 < Xihix> at the current moment, 176
2008-02-16 21:56 < Ceiling_Cat> AIDS rate*
2008-02-16 21:56 < bumm13> haha
2008-02-16 21:56 < Buffalosoldier92> And how tall are you?
2008-02-16 21:56 < ggreer`> and you lost 20lbs in... how many weeks?
2008-02-16 21:56 < Buffalosoldier92> 2 weeks ggreer'
2008-02-16 21:56 < Buffalosoldier92> dammit, wrong key
2008-02-16 21:57 < ggreer`> and you're how tall?
2008-02-16 21:57 < Xihix> lb
2008-02-16 21:57 < Buffalosoldier92> 176 lbs... 14 years old, and we have no idea how tall...
2008-02-16 21:57 < ggreer`> well he's fat
2008-02-16 21:57 * bumm13 is fat
2008-02-16 21:57 < gwern> 10lbs a week is starvation rate, I should think, since each pound of fat is quite a few calories. maybe much of it was water?
2008-02-16 21:57 < bumm13> there can be no others! ;)
2008-02-16 21:57 < Xihix> weird, got disconnected
2008-02-16 21:58 < Buffalosoldier92> gwern: Xihix could be losing more muscle than fat
2008-02-16 21:58 < Xihix> noo. not the precious muscle
2008-02-16 21:58 < ggreer`> Buffalosoldier92: doubtful
2008-02-16 21:58 < ggreer`> gwern: that's what I'm betting
2008-02-16 21:58 < ggreer`> drink some freaking water
2008-02-16 21:58 < quanticle> The body prefers to consume muscle last
2008-02-16 21:58 < ggreer`> you'll probably feel better
2008-02-16 21:58 < gwern> Buffalosoldier92: muscle goes after fat, I thought
2008-02-16 21:58 < Buffalosoldier92> Good point...
2008-02-16 21:58 < Buffalosoldier92> Yeah
2008-02-16 21:58 * Buffalosoldier92 is tired right now
2008-02-16 21:58 < Xihix> I run too, by the way
2008-02-16 21:58 < Xihix> It's not fast running
2008-02-16 21:58 < quanticle> Xihix: How far?
2008-02-16 21:59 < Xihix> but I try to get at least 25 min a day
2008-02-16 21:59 < bumm13> hunting buffaloes will make one tired
2008-02-16 21:59 < Krimpet> may I please suggest consulting a doctor in lieu of IRC for medical advice? -_-
2008-02-16 21:59 < Buffalosoldier92> Yeah
2008-02-16 21:59 < Xihix> usually 1.6 miles, along with other exersising activities
2008-02-16 21:59 < gwern> bumm13: not the ones who hunt from trains with rifles
2008-02-16 21:59 < gwern> 'I say Phineas, let's shoot into that herd over there' 'oh I wouldn't old chap, we already shot 20, and it is so wearying'
2008-02-16 21:59 < ggreer`> Xihix: how tall are you?
2008-02-16 22:00 < Xihix> somewhere around 5'2" or 5'3"
2008-02-16 22:00 < Buffalosoldier92> Ok
2008-02-16 22:00 < gwern> kind of short
2008-02-16 22:00 < Xihix> yeah, even for my age
2008-02-16 22:00 < Buffalosoldier92> That's shorter than me
2008-02-16 22:00 < Buffalosoldier92> I'm 15, 5'5, and 135 pounds...
2008-02-16 22:00 < ggreer`> I'm 5'5" and 120lbs
2008-02-16 22:00 < Buffalosoldier92> Most of my weight is muscle BTW...
2008-02-16 22:00 < Xihix> yes, I'm a fattie.
2008-02-16 22:01 < Buffalosoldier92> So yeah, drink some water
2008-02-16 22:01 < Messedrocker> hmmm
2008-02-16 22:01 < ggreer`> drink water, and don't take medical advice from IRC
2008-02-16 22:01 < Buffalosoldier92> Ever
2008-02-16 22:01 < Messedrocker> i am at least 5'8" and I weigh 150 pounds
2008-02-16 22:01 < Messedrocker> most likely i am over 5'8
2008-02-16 22:01 < ggreer`> I can lose 3-4lbs if I'm dehydrated
2008-02-16 22:01 < Xihix> I don't want to really go to a doctor though... no money, and the most I expect is criticm.
2008-02-16 22:01 * Cyrius can't meet the BMI definition of normal weight without an amputation
2008-02-16 22:01 < gwern> ggreer`: hee hee. I like how your advice contradicts
2008-02-16 22:02 < Messedrocker> what's an effective way of measuring your own height?
2008-02-16 22:02 < ggreer`> gwern: yeah
2008-02-16 22:02 < gwern> getting on a scale naked
2008-02-16 22:02 < ggreer`> Messedrocker: rob a bank
2008-02-16 22:02 < Messedrocker> HEIGHT
2008-02-16 22:02 < ggreer`> they have those things on the doors
2008-02-16 22:02 < bumm13> I'm technically considered "morbidly obese"
2008-02-16 22:02 < Xihix> me too.
2008-02-16 22:02 < bumm13> but I can still touch my toes!
2008-02-16 22:02 < Buffalosoldier92> I'm technically considered "normal"
2008-02-16 22:02 < Messedrocker> you are really flexible, bumm13
2008-02-16 22:02 < Buffalosoldier92> But I can't touch my toes
2008-02-16 22:02 < gwern> well sure, once you have your weight, you can measure your displacement in your bathtube
2008-02-16 22:02 < Krimpet> Messedrocker, back up against the wall and mark the top of your head with a pencil?
2008-02-16 22:02 < gwern> working from the average density of a sedentary human, and so on
2008-02-16 22:03 < Xihix> well, I think I might be between the moribly and the normal right now
2008-02-16 22:03 < Cyrius> bath...tube?
2008-02-16 22:03 < Cyrius> I am intrigued
2008-02-16 22:03 < ggreer`> Xihix: your bmi is 32
2008-02-16 22:03 < gwern> (I leave the rest as an exercise to the reader)
2008-02-16 22:03 < Xihix> obese right?
2008-02-16 22:03 < ggreer`> yeah
2008-02-16 22:03 < gwern> Cyrius: it's like a bathtube, but very narrow and you stand up
2008-02-16 22:03 < Xihix> I see.
2008-02-16 22:03 < Buffalosoldier92> My BMI is... 21 last time I checked... I think
2008-02-16 22:03 < Messedrocker> say i were 5'10" and 150 pounds
2008-02-16 22:03 < ggreer`> http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
2008-02-16 22:03 < Cyrius> gwern: a bathtube is like a bathtube?
2008-02-16 22:03 < Xihix> I think I'm gonna make this my plan
2008-02-16 22:03 < Cyrius> bmi is a load of crap =)
2008-02-16 22:03 < gwern> Cyrius: exactly
2008-02-16 22:04 < Xihix> Not do anything to the weight losing I am experiencing at the moment
2008-02-16 22:04 < Buffalosoldier92> BMI is
2008-02-16 22:04 < Xihix> untill I get in the 150's
2008-02-16 22:04 < Messedrocker> oh good, i am still a normal weight
2008-02-16 22:04 < Xihix> then seek medical help
2008-02-16 22:04 < bumm13> my BMI = ???
2008-02-16 22:04 < bumm13> ;)
2008-02-16 22:04 < gwern> Cyrius: see, with a normal bathtube you'd be horizontal, and it'd be that much more water efficient
2008-02-16 22:04 < Buffalosoldier92> My dad is technically "obese" by the BMI, but he's mainly muscle... he's all muscle
2008-02-16 22:04 < gwern> but with a bathube, it's just like a bathtube but vertical
2008-02-16 22:04 < gwern> d'you follow?
2008-02-16 22:04 * bumm13 , sadly, ain't :(
2008-02-16 22:04 < Messedrocker> Buffalosoldier92, then BMI doesn't really apply to him.
2008-02-16 22:04 < bumm13> BMI isn't all that useful by itself
2008-02-16 22:04 < Buffalosoldier92> Yeah
2008-02-16 22:04 < Messedrocker> He's muscular. He's in shape. He doesn't really need to worry about weight
2008-02-16 22:05 < Cyrius> body fat percentage
2008-02-16 22:05 < Buffalosoldier92> He doesn't
2008-02-16 22:05 < Messedrocker> i'm sedentary so i kind of worry
2008-02-16 22:05 < ggreer`> body fat % is really the only thing you need to worry about
2008-02-16 22:05 < ggreer`> Messedrocker: go out and exercise, do stuff. it's fun
2008-02-16 22:05 < Xihix> how do you calculate body fat?
2008-02-16 22:05 * Buffalosoldier92 got a machine to do it for him
2008-02-16 22:05 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 22:05 < ggreer`> Xihix: there are special scales that use magic/technology to tell you your bady fat %
2008-02-16 22:05 < Xihix> I think I'm like 50% fat. is that a lo?
2008-02-16 22:05 < Xihix> lot*
2008-02-16 22:06 < Cyrius> yes, and you're not
2008-02-16 22:06 < The359> don't they take a pinch of skin from your arm and compare it to your weight?
2008-02-16 22:06 < Buffalosoldier92> Nobody can be 50% fat
2008-02-16 22:06 < Cyrius> it's hard to get that high
2008-02-16 22:06 < Xihix> ah.
2008-02-16 22:06 < Buffalosoldier92> 52% of your Body Weight is muscle
2008-02-16 22:06 < Buffalosoldier92> so...
2008-02-16 22:06 < Buffalosoldier92> on average
2008-02-16 22:06 < ggreer`> Messedrocker: for example, I spent most of today in the hot sun, wearing thick leather and a stuffy helmet, learning how to ride a motorcycle
2008-02-16 22:06 < ggreer`> of course this was in a freaking parking lot, so there was no shade
2008-02-16 22:06 < kenlyric> well, the fat holds water too
2008-02-16 22:06 < gwern> sure you can be 50% fat, just keep eating...
2008-02-16 22:06 < Messedrocker> i'll be on a cruise starting tomorrow. my goal is to start exercising
2008-02-16 22:06 < Xihix> I was comparing myself to someone who weighed 195 when I weighed 195, but they seemed to look a lot fatter.
2008-02-16 22:06 < Cyrius> people who are 50% fat are really round
2008-02-16 22:07 < gwern> exercise on a cruise? methinks you misseth the point
2008-02-16 22:07 * kenlyric could easily lose half his weight and not bat an eye
2008-02-16 22:07 < kenlyric> so that's probably 50% fat
2008-02-16 22:07 < The359> http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/gpb.atot/shipmentfail.jpg
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> Krimpet: There was a young chemist from Ryde,
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> Who drank a foul poison and died.
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> It was ortho-hydroxy-
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> para-methoxy-
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> tri-nitro benzaldehyde!
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> Oops
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> That shouldn't have been to krimpet
2008-02-16 22:07 < Messedrocker> i appreciate the poem anyway
2008-02-16 22:07 < quanticle> That should have been unaddressed
2008-02-16 22:08 < Xihix> question
2008-02-16 22:08 < bumm13> PMTNB? ;)
2008-02-16 22:08 < Xihix> is there anything funner than running on a treadmill that I can do?
2008-02-16 22:08 < Xihix> I always find myself bored and sad and depressed and tired
2008-02-16 22:08 < Xihix> when running on a treadmill
2008-02-16 22:08 * Krimpet splashes chemicals on quanticle's eyes
2008-02-16 22:08 < Xihix> I mean, I realize there isn't much else to do at 10 pm at night
2008-02-16 22:08 < Xihix> but still
2008-02-16 22:08 < Alkivar> http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8867/shipoffailcl4.jpg
2008-02-16 22:08 < Buffalosoldier92> You can do push ups
2008-02-16 22:08 < Alkivar> thats a better fail ship
2008-02-16 22:09 < Buffalosoldier92> You can do crunches
2008-02-16 22:09 < bumm13> Google has never heard of that substance :P
2008-02-16 22:09 < Buffalosoldier92> If you have stairs, run up and down them
2008-02-16 22:09 < kenlyric> Xihix: books on tape
2008-02-16 22:09 < Xihix> Alkivar: obviously, a barrel roll is not always the best choice
2008-02-16 22:09 < Xihix> Kenlyric, I listen to music
2008-02-16 22:09 < Xihix> but it's still boring
2008-02-16 22:09 < Alkivar> oh come on DO A BARREL ROLL
2008-02-16 22:09 < The359> Failed at doing a barrel roll, Alkivar
2008-02-16 22:10 < Alkivar> I CAN HAZ BARRELL ROLL ON CATURDAY?
2008-02-16 22:10 < gwern> Xihix: learn a martial arts
2008-02-16 22:10 < gwern> that's fun
2008-02-16 22:10 < Xihix> Oh, you guys know that Illinois kid that killed some people recently?
2008-02-16 22:10 < Xihix> He had some nicely done eyebrows
2008-02-16 22:10 < Alkivar> he was 27 that doesnt make him qualify for "kid"
2008-02-16 22:10 < Xihix> but he had some bad acne on his chin
2008-02-16 22:10 < Buffalosoldier92> He also had the doll from Saw on his arm...
2008-02-16 22:10 < The359> ....and?
2008-02-16 22:10 < Xihix> meh
2008-02-16 22:11 < kenlyric> I'm sorry, none of these facts are interesting about him.
2008-02-16 22:11 < Xihix> just critiqueing his looks, jeez.
2008-02-16 22:11 < gwern> what a random observation
2008-02-16 22:11 < Xihix> he had a weird nose too.
2008-02-16 22:11 < The359> critique the looks of a homicidal dead man?
2008-02-16 22:11 < kenlyric> He killed people should be all that people remember about wastes of psace.
2008-02-16 22:11 < Xihix> I wonder if there will be a shooting at my high school one day
2008-02-16 22:11 < Xihix> it would be freakky
2008-02-16 22:12 < Buffalosoldier92> Ironic thing is, is that I joked about having a massacre on valentines day....
2008-02-16 22:12 < quanticle> MOAR LIMERICKS:
2008-02-16 22:12 < quanticle> The limerick's structure somewhat
2008-02-16 22:12 < quanticle> necessitates *eloquent* smut.
2008-02-16 22:12 < quanticle> If you haven't the time
2008-02-16 22:12 < quanticle> to learn meter and rhyme,
2008-02-16 22:12 < quanticle> then don't write them, you ignorant slut.
2008-02-16 22:12 < Alkivar> then we'd be doomed to repeat WW2 ken
2008-02-16 22:12 < kenlyric> gee, you think xihix?
2008-02-16 22:12 < Xihix> Yeah.
2008-02-16 22:12 < Xihix> But, if there was
2008-02-16 22:12 < Xihix> I'd probably be busying trying to get photos
2008-02-16 22:12 < Buffalosoldier92> Wow
2008-02-16 22:12 < Xihix> for the Wikipedia page of the massacre
2008-02-16 22:12 < The359> This conversation has become increasingly more fail
2008-02-16 22:13 < kenlyric> I think there's an onion article about you
2008-02-16 22:13 < Buffalosoldier92> I'd get a rifle out of my JROTC armory and take the kid on...
2008-02-16 22:13 < Xihix> whaa?
2008-02-16 22:13 < Buffalosoldier92> I don't care much about my life so yeah...
2008-02-16 22:13 < Xihix> I'm sorry Buffalo, but the kids at my school make fun of the JROTC kids...
2008-02-16 22:13 < gwern> like you'd have time
2008-02-16 22:13 < Krimpet> hear hear, The359 :/
2008-02-16 22:13 < Buffalosoldier92> JROTC Rawks
2008-02-16 22:14 < The359> what does making fun of JROTC kids have to do with surviving a school attack?
2008-02-16 22:14 < Buffalosoldier92> Nothin
2008-02-16 22:14 < autocracy> interesting wiki fact: Prison Warden redirects to the disambiguation article Warden... but that says nothing about that kind of warden
2008-02-16 22:14 < The359> do you just randomly blurt out whatever pops in your head?
2008-02-16 22:14 < Xihix> but anyway, if there was a shooting at my school, I'd whip out a camera and try to do a document the shooting, then go to the library and start uploading the photos onto Commons under a free liscense.
2008-02-16 22:14 < The359> ...
2008-02-16 22:15 < autocracy> Xihix: well good for you?
2008-02-16 22:15 < kenlyric> or you'd be DEAD and your friends could.
2008-02-16 22:15 < Xihix> I think it's any Wikipedians duty to do so.
2008-02-16 22:15 < White_Cat> Xihix or
2008-02-16 22:15 < autocracy> I'd go for the guy with the gun
2008-02-16 22:15 < White_Cat> you would be shot trying
2008-02-16 22:15 < Xihix> I'd distance myself
2008-02-16 22:15 < White_Cat> I'd grab a tazer
2008-02-16 22:15 < kenlyric> do we need pictures of that?
2008-02-16 22:15 < The359> a Wikipedian's duty to risk their life for pictures
2008-02-16 22:15 < autocracy> I figure even if I have only a 10% chance stopping him and dying int he process, it's a good move
2008-02-16 22:15 < The359> What a fucking tool
2008-02-16 22:15 < Xihix> The359, exactly.
2008-02-16 22:15 * White_Cat picks The359 up
2008-02-16 22:15 < kenlyric> I'm pretty sure we don't need those pictures
2008-02-16 22:15 * White_Cat puts The359 into iraq
2008-02-16 22:16 < Xihix> when there's an oppurtunity, why not take the chance?
2008-02-16 22:16 < The359> Why not jump off a cliff for a picture?
2008-02-16 22:16 < The359> While you're at it
2008-02-16 22:16 * Krimpet would care more about, y'know, helping others escape death at the hands of a psycho
2008-02-16 22:16 < Xihix> Krimpet, I'd do that too.
2008-02-16 22:16 < White_Cat> Xihix I would probably be the person that gets shot first
2008-02-16 22:16 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 22:16 < Buffalosoldier92> I'd probably be the person that runs into his bullets like a dumbass
2008-02-16 22:16 < autocracy> The359: well, photojournalists have their place even in the middle of wars
2008-02-16 22:16 < gwern> The359: because jumping off a cliff could be done by a camera with a timer, you don't need to do it
2008-02-16 22:17 < The359> they're usually clearly identified as journalists and try to stay out of the way, autocracy
2008-02-16 22:17 < Xihix> I know my school's layout more than any student, and probably a lot of the staff. I know about secret corriders and rooms and junk.
2008-02-16 22:17 < Xihix> I could easily save a lot of people
2008-02-16 22:17 < The359> "easily"
2008-02-16 22:17 < The359> while someone with a gun is around
2008-02-16 22:17 < Xihix> I'm probably the only student who knows how to get access to the roof.
2008-02-16 22:17 < Xihix> well The359
2008-02-16 22:17 < The359> yeah, that'll help
2008-02-16 22:17 < Buffalosoldier92> At my school, there's a ladder
2008-02-16 22:17 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 22:17 < Xihix> if it's some high school kid
2008-02-16 22:17 < The359> Cornering everyone on the roof
2008-02-16 22:17 < Ceiling_Cat> goodnight all!
2008-02-16 22:17 < Buffalosoldier92> "Let's jump!!!"
2008-02-16 22:17 < Xihix> they're probably not that great at shooting
2008-02-16 22:18 < gwern> I have read about many people's experience in combat. uniformly, they panic and do much worse than their fantasies. I see no reason Xihix would be any exception
2008-02-16 22:18 < kenlyric> and embeded journalist don't actively try to take pictures of people as their being shot.
2008-02-16 22:18 < gwern> Xihix: tell that to Cho's victims
2008-02-16 22:18 < The359> You're just a high school kid
2008-02-16 22:18 < The359> You're probably not that great at helping people escape gunmen
2008-02-16 22:18 < Xihix> Oh, I've had experience.
2008-02-16 22:18 < Buffalosoldier92> How so?
2008-02-16 22:18 < quanticle> With gunmen?
2008-02-16 22:18 < quanticle> wut?
2008-02-16 22:18 < Xihix> well, not a real gunmen.
2008-02-16 22:18 < The359> shocker
2008-02-16 22:18 < quanticle> Xihix: You've participated in drills?
2008-02-16 22:18 < jeremyb> what kind then?
2008-02-16 22:18 < Buffalosoldier92> ooh, lemme guess... video games
2008-02-16 22:19 < kenlyric> this ship of fail has reached the edge of the map.
2008-02-16 22:19 < The359> lol Buffalosoldier92
2008-02-16 22:19 < Xihix> still, I think I'd be a great asset to someone's survival in a case of a massacre of some sort.
2008-02-16 22:19 < kenlyric> HERE THERE BE DRAGONS!
2008-02-16 22:19 < White_Cat> hmm
2008-02-16 22:19 < The359> And why?
2008-02-16 22:19 < quanticle> kenlyric: FAILDRAGONS
2008-02-16 22:19 < White_Cat> I suppose Id be the guy with the gun
2008-02-16 22:19 < The359> Because you can get to the roof?
2008-02-16 22:19 < Xihix> Because damn it, I know what to do.
2008-02-16 22:19 < The359> You do?
2008-02-16 22:19 < Buffalosoldier92> I was voted to be the dude with a gun by my freshman class last year
2008-02-16 22:19 * White_Cat shoots Xihix a bit
2008-02-16 22:19 < The359> What's your training?
2008-02-16 22:19 < gwern> Xihix: yes, you'd provide some delicious brains to keep a zombie alive
2008-02-16 22:19 < Buffalosoldier92> It was an offical/unoffical poll
2008-02-16 22:19 < Xihix> I've examined what kids in cases like Columbine did, and if I was in their shoes, I would have done a lot better.
2008-02-16 22:19 < kenlyric> well, it's apparently not JROTC training
2008-02-16 22:19 < Buffalosoldier92> That's what they all say
2008-02-16 22:19 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: You're in the Army?
2008-02-16 22:19 < jeremyb> what kind of gunmen if not real?
2008-02-16 22:19 < The359> WTF?
2008-02-16 22:19 < Buffalosoldier92> JROTC
2008-02-16 22:19 < Master_son> ...
2008-02-16 22:19 < Buffalosoldier92> Army JROTC
2008-02-16 22:20 < White_Cat> Xihix is a Navy Seal
2008-02-16 22:20 < The359> You studied how students reacted?
2008-02-16 22:20 < kenlyric> Xihix: you have reached the pinnacle of fail. YOu cannot fail anymore
2008-02-16 22:20 < The359> That's your "experience"?
2008-02-16 22:20 < NastyAccident> JROTC
2008-02-16 22:20 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: Cool.
2008-02-16 22:20 < Xihix> no no
2008-02-16 22:20 < NastyAccident> meaning your in middle school?
2008-02-16 22:20 < kenlyric> please leave the internet before your fail destroys it
2008-02-16 22:20 < ggreer`> Xihix: how long have you been shooting for?
2008-02-16 22:20 < Xihix> The columbine thing was just examination
2008-02-16 22:20 < Buffalosoldier92> High School yo...
2008-02-16 22:20 < The359> Examination?
2008-02-16 22:20 < ggreer`> because firearms are not intuitive
2008-02-16 22:20 < Krimpet> Xihix: for your sake and everyone else's, please end this conversation now.
2008-02-16 22:20 < The359> "Shit, I've seen what happened in a massacre, now I can avoid it!"
2008-02-16 22:20 < Xihix> exactly!
2008-02-16 22:20 < ggreer`> they take a lot of training to use properly
2008-02-16 22:21 < The359> This fail can fail no more!
2008-02-16 22:21 < kenlyric> that's like watching a porno and thinking you know how to please a woman
2008-02-16 22:21 < The359> This ship has set fail!
2008-02-16 22:21 < ggreer`> kenlyric: well put
2008-02-16 22:21 < Buffalosoldier92> I'd probably be either the guy holding the gun, the guy dumb enough to try and rush the guy with the gun, or the dude who takes a crap in his pants when the gun is pointed at him
2008-02-16 22:21 < Buffalosoldier92> Pick one
2008-02-16 22:21 < gwern> kenlyric: well sure, you just have to stick it in and do her harder. it seems simple enouigh to me
2008-02-16 22:21 < ggreer`> Buffalosoldier92: what about the guy with the concealed carry permit who shoots the guy with the gun?
2008-02-16 22:21 < The359> You have to stick it in her ass, kenlyric
2008-02-16 22:21 < The359> They clearly love that
2008-02-16 22:21 < kenlyric> i'd be "guy struck by random bullet even though he wasn't aiming at me"
2008-02-16 22:22 < kenlyric> because that's just by luck
2008-02-16 22:22 < Buffalosoldier92> Hm... good point ggreer, but I don't believe that people in high school would have concealed weapons :P
2008-02-16 22:22 < Xihix> ... I still think I'd have a great performance in a case of a school shooting.
2008-02-16 22:22 < The359> Everyone thinks that
2008-02-16 22:22 < The359> Some of them are now dead
2008-02-16 22:22 < kenlyric> trolls are bad trolls
2008-02-16 22:22 < ggreer`> Buffalosoldier92: oh, right. high school
2008-02-16 22:22 < Xihix> The359, the keyword
2008-02-16 22:22 < Xihix> some
2008-02-16 22:23 < kenlyric> this is why you should need to pass a test to get on the internet if you're under 18.
2008-02-16 22:23 < Xihix> I fall into the category that didn't.
2008-02-16 22:23 < The359> no, that's not a fucking keyword
2008-02-16 22:23 < kenlyric> forget that "under 18"
2008-02-16 22:23 < Buffalosoldier92> Other than the JROTC Armory... which has 20 Air Rifles, 40 de-milled M1 Garands, and... 10 Sabers
2008-02-16 22:23 < Xihix> Isn't JROTC a step lower than ROTC?
2008-02-16 22:23 < WinkyPediatrist> you should not have to pass a test, the net is for everyone!
2008-02-16 22:23 < Xihix> I never knew.
2008-02-16 22:23 < kenlyric> either a troll or very dumb, either way, you don't belong here.
2008-02-16 22:23 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: Sabers, like swords?
2008-02-16 22:23 < Krimpet> can I has endz of conversationz now plz?
2008-02-16 22:23 < Buffalosoldier92> JROTC is High School, and ROTC is College
2008-02-16 22:23 < gwern> behold, the Krimpet comes
2008-02-16 22:23 < Buffalosoldier92> Yes, like swords
2008-02-16 22:23 < Xihix> ah..
2008-02-16 22:23 < The359> This fail ship has sunk
2008-02-16 22:24 * quanticle watches Krimpet charge her power level OVER 9000
2008-02-16 22:24 * autocracy throws his hands up
2008-02-16 22:24 < autocracy> I don't ever want to experience it, and I'm done thinking about it
2008-02-16 22:24 < The359> WHAT 9000?!?
2008-02-16 22:24 < WinkyPediatrist> The Internet's middle name is FREEDOM! Freedom of MIND! Freedom of SPIRIT! Everthing...
2008-02-16 22:24 < Xihix> But, the images I'd take during a massacre would be forever remembered.
2008-02-16 22:24 < Messedrocker> Freedom of SEX~!
2008-02-16 22:24 < WinkyPediatrist> and esPECIALLY freedom of information!
2008-02-16 22:24 < gwern> The359: she must've hidden her power levels!
2008-02-16 22:24 < quanticle> WinkyPediatrist: Freedom of LULZ, more like
2008-02-16 22:24 < The359> god your ego is like....epic, Xihix
2008-02-16 22:25 < Krimpet> Xihix: enough
2008-02-16 22:25 < Xihix> I'd leave a note on the camera stating that I want the images to be released into public domain when some official finds it.
2008-02-16 22:25 < Xihix> meh ok
2008-02-16 22:25 < The359> I'm surprised you don't refer to yourself in the third person
2008-02-16 22:25 < Xihix> I do in real life
2008-02-16 22:25 < Buffalosoldier92> I'm the armorer for my Company... lul
2008-02-16 22:25 < Xihix> I don't find a reason to do so on IRC
2008-02-16 22:25 < WinkyPediatrist> lulz?
2008-02-16 22:25 * Krimpet 's hair slowly fades from gold back to brown as her power fades
2008-02-16 22:25 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: So you maintain the weapons? What sort of maintenance does a saber require?
2008-02-16 22:25 * autocracy wikisnaps and stabs everyone who uses the term "lulz"
2008-02-16 22:25 < Buffalosoldier92> None
2008-02-16 22:25 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 22:26 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: They don't rust?
2008-02-16 22:26 < Buffalosoldier92> They're for ceremonial puposes, so they don't dull
2008-02-16 22:26 < gwern> really? don't they rust tho?
2008-02-16 22:26 < Buffalosoldier92> Nor ust
2008-02-16 22:26 < Xihix> I probably started talking in third person after I saw that episode of Seinfeld
2008-02-16 22:26 < Buffalosoldier92> *Nor rust
2008-02-16 22:26 < Xihix> The Jimmy
2008-02-16 22:26 < kibble> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WMUCampus3.jpg
2008-02-16 22:26 < kibble> pretty pic :-)
2008-02-16 22:26 * quanticle wonders if stainless steel would be a good sword material
2008-02-16 22:27 < quanticle> It'd be too brittle, I think...
2008-02-16 22:27 < Master_son> kibble niiiice
2008-02-16 22:27 < kibble> :-)
2008-02-16 22:27 < quanticle> kibble: High resolution version?
2008-02-16 22:27 < kibble> idk, it's not mine
2008-02-16 22:27 * Buffalosoldier92 spins
2008-02-16 22:27 < WinkyPediatrist> I am glad you have removed the redirect from "Man Coulter" to "Ann Coulter"!
2008-02-16 22:28 < WinkyPediatrist> PErhaps we should have "Rosie O'Dumbbell" too???
2008-02-16 22:28 < kibble> O_O
2008-02-16 22:28 < Buffalosoldier92> Rosie O'Donnel is the monster in cloverfield...
2008-02-16 22:28 < The359> It's not Godzirra?
2008-02-16 22:28 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: Well, the certainly have the same appetite
2008-02-16 22:28 < quanticle> *they
2008-02-16 22:28 < Buffalosoldier92> XD
2008-02-16 22:28 < WinkyPediatrist> I think redirects are the new method of personal expression!
2008-02-16 22:28 < WinkyPediatrist> For the new millenia!
2008-02-16 22:29 * quanticle should redirect "Hungry Hungry Oprahs" to "Hungry Hungry Hippos"
2008-02-16 22:29 < WinkyPediatrist> LMAO
2008-02-16 22:29 * The359 thinks tomorrow's Knight Rider movie is going to be epic fail
2008-02-16 22:30 < quanticle> The359: That's tomorrow?
2008-02-16 22:30 < The359> yes
2008-02-16 22:30 < Buffalosoldier92> Then there's Hancock... Will Smith's new movie
2008-02-16 22:30 < quanticle> Buffalsoldier92: What's Hancock about?
2008-02-16 22:30 < Buffalosoldier92> A superhero
2008-02-16 22:30 < Buffalosoldier92> That's all I know
2008-02-16 22:30 < Buffalosoldier92> That kinda messes up everything in the process of saving people
2008-02-16 22:31 < The359> A superhero that no one likes
2008-02-16 22:31 < The359> and he's a bum that lives on the streets
2008-02-16 22:31 < Buffalosoldier92> Yeah
2008-02-16 22:31 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: That actually sounds kinda interesting.
2008-02-16 22:31 < Buffalosoldier92> It looks funny
2008-02-16 22:31 < Krimpet> after playing a rapping cowboy in "Wild Wild West," the shining pinnacle of his career, Will Smith's career can never live up to expectations again :/
2008-02-16 22:31 < Buffalosoldier92> He throws a whale and I think it lands on a Greenpeace boat
2008-02-16 22:32 < Buffalosoldier92> Will Smith portrays an alcoholic superhero despised by everyone. A publicist (Jason Bateman) helps rehabilitate him, and the superhero eventually begins an affair with the publicist's wife (Charlize Theron).[1]
2008-02-16 22:33 < Buffalosoldier92> retrieved from wikipedia's article on hancock
2008-02-16 22:35 < quanticle> I actually like Smith's performance in I Am Legend
2008-02-16 22:35 < quanticle> *liked
2008-02-16 22:35 < Buffalosoldier92> So did I
2008-02-16 22:35 < Buffalosoldier92> It rocked
2008-02-16 22:36 < Buffalosoldier92> Although he didn't hit anything five feet away with an M4...
2008-02-16 22:36 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: That's true. On full-auto, no less.
2008-02-16 22:36 < Buffalosoldier92> lol
2008-02-16 22:37 < Lucifer_Cat> he never caught the damn deer
2008-02-16 22:37 < quanticle> Full-auto is a retarded idea on most guns. Even if you have enough ammo, your barrel will overheat in no time.
2008-02-16 22:37 < Buffalosoldier92> The M-4 has a problem with overheating...
2008-02-16 22:37 < Lucifer_Cat> so has 360
2008-02-16 22:37 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 22:37 < Buffalosoldier92> Red Ring of Death
2008-02-16 22:38 * quanticle needs to replace his PS2
2008-02-16 22:38 < quanticle> Disc Read Error for the lose
2008-02-16 22:38 < The359> http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/xbox360_red_ring_card.jpg
2008-02-16 22:38 * Lucifer_Cat has a PS2 too
2008-02-16 22:38 < Buffalosoldier92> My PS2 rocks
2008-02-16 22:38 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Are you Lucifer_Tiger as well?
2008-02-16 22:38 < Buffalosoldier92> I've had it for like... 7 years, and it still works
2008-02-16 22:39 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: Heh. Lucky.
2008-02-16 22:39 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah. going all catty seemed to be all the rage
2008-02-16 22:39 * The359 has a PS3
2008-02-16 22:39 < quanticle> Buffalosoldier92: I had my PS2 for nigh on 6 years before it died.
2008-02-16 22:39 < Buffalosoldier92> wow
2008-02-16 22:39 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Better catty than batty.
2008-02-16 22:39 < The359> my PS2 still works
2008-02-16 22:39 < The359> so does my N64
2008-02-16 22:39 < The359> and my NES finally stopped working 2 years ago
2008-02-16 22:39 < Buffalosoldier92> I've dropped mine... it's been thrown across my room... and ti still works
2008-02-16 22:39 < The359> Completely Original
2008-02-16 22:40 < Buffalosoldier92> I don't know what happened to my N64
2008-02-16 22:40 < quanticle> The359: Nintendo consoles are durable as hell.
2008-02-16 22:40 < The359> my SNES probably still works, but I don't have any controllers for it
2008-02-16 22:40 < The359> Not the NES game slots, quanticle
2008-02-16 22:40 < Buffalosoldier92> They're made usually for younger people who are more likely to break things
2008-02-16 22:40 < quanticle> The359: That's true.
2008-02-16 22:40 < Buffalosoldier92> Unless you're a drunk adult...
2008-02-16 22:40 < The359> my PS3 though has had a few glitches
2008-02-16 22:40 < The359> it's randomly reset itself and froze a few times
2008-02-16 22:40 < quanticle> I've seen gamecubes get kicked down stairs and still work perfectly
2008-02-16 22:40 < Buffalosoldier92> yeah
2008-02-16 22:40 < quanticle> The359: Software, or hadware glitch?
2008-02-16 22:41 < The359> Dunno
2008-02-16 22:41 < The359> at most, the system might have overheated
2008-02-16 22:41 < Buffalosoldier92> I've seen some Nintendo DS's get dropped from stairwells and still work... depending on where it lands
2008-02-16 22:41 < The359> even though it is well ventilated
2008-02-16 22:41 * quanticle should buy a new PS2
2008-02-16 22:42 < The359> I even had my PS2 on for 24 hours several times
2008-02-16 22:42 < quanticle> I many games that I want to play...
2008-02-16 22:42 < Buffalosoldier92> However, my PSP, whenever I drop it from a height of 3 feet, it falls apart
2008-02-16 22:42 < The359> (for Gran Turismo 4)
2008-02-16 22:42 < Lucifer_Cat> 3 or 3?
2008-02-16 22:42 < Lucifer_Cat> 2 rather
2008-02-16 22:42 < quanticle> The359: How do you make that work? Don't you have to steer?