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2008-02-16 19:28 < Rschen7754> highlights on people's clients
2008-02-16 19:28 < CJMiller> bug off White_Cat_Zzz
2008-02-16 19:29 < Random832> what are all the !hilight words that people have?
2008-02-16 19:29 < Random832> i never knew about [!]road
2008-02-16 19:29 < Random832> i'd only heard of [!]admin
2008-02-16 19:29 < Rschen7754> it's a road channel only thing :)
2008-02-16 19:29 < Scott5114> Random832: we only use it in the roads channel.
2008-02-16 19:29 < NotASpy> that and [!]op are the only two (apart from my nicks) that I stalk.
2008-02-16 19:29 < Random832> you can't use it in here to summon a road person?
2008-02-16 19:29 < Rschen7754> wow i have an echo :_
2008-02-16 19:29 < Rschen7754> lol
2008-02-16 19:29 < Scott5114> Random832: well yes
2008-02-16 19:29 < Enterprise_Cat> [!]ops actually
2008-02-16 19:29 < Scott5114> if there's any in here
2008-02-16 19:29 < Betacommand> CJMiller: why should I bug off?
2008-02-16 19:29 < CJMiller> Sorry all, I'm just having a bad day
2008-02-16 19:29 < Random832> was wonderin if there were any others that people use
2008-02-16 19:30 < Sfan00> CAn someone spell check and alpahsort this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filmography_for_the_Childrens_Film_Foundation#As_UK_Distributor_or_translator
2008-02-16 19:30 < NotASpy> Enterprise_Cat: nah, if you stalk op, then you catch both op and ops, if you configure your client correctly.
2008-02-16 19:30 * CJMiller slaps Enterprise_Cat around a bit with a large trout
2008-02-16 19:30 < Seddon69> !bell is used for ringing the reassessment bell
2008-02-16 19:30 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filmography_for_the_Childrens_Film_Foundation - Spell check and Alpha sort?
2008-02-16 19:30 < Enterprise_Cat> /ignore CJMiller
2008-02-16 19:30 < kibble> CJMiller: if you're having a bad day, IRC may not be the best place for you
2008-02-16 19:30 < Scott5114> Enterprise_Cat: Excellent idea
2008-02-16 19:31 < kibble> I suggest a movie and some ice cream
2008-02-16 19:31 * Master_son agrees with kibble
2008-02-16 19:31 < CJMiller> I don't want a movie
2008-02-16 19:31 < CJMiller> I want a place to blow off steam with scores of other people
2008-02-16 19:31 < NotASpy> how about a nice cartoon then ?
2008-02-16 19:31 < Attic_Cat> heh
2008-02-16 19:31 < CJMiller> no
2008-02-16 19:32 < CJMiller> I want a place to blow off steam with scores of other people
2008-02-16 19:32 * Attic_Cat stalks [!]admin@commons
2008-02-16 19:32 * CJMiller slaps a random user with a large tuna
2008-02-16 19:32 < kibble> CJMiller: but doing it at other's expense is not the best solution :-(
2008-02-16 19:32 < CJMiller> I want a place to blow off steam with scores of other people
2008-02-16 19:32 < Enterprise_Cat> What does /silence do?
2008-02-16 19:32 < CJMiller> Where can I do that?
2008-02-16 19:32 < Scott5114> A football game.
2008-02-16 19:32 < Attic_Cat> heh
2008-02-16 19:32 < Scott5114> Or possibly a taping of The Price is Right.
2008-02-16 19:32 < NotASpy> Attic_Cat: I just stalk [!]admin, as I've got it set to highlight on admin@commons too.
2008-02-16 19:33 < CJMiller> What channel can I blow off steam at!
2008-02-16 19:33 < NotASpy> CJMiller: probably best not to do that here, we're not really a blowing off steam sort of channel.
2008-02-16 19:33 < Scott5114> Call up PBS and yell at them. :P
2008-02-16 19:33 < haza-w> #defocus
2008-02-16 19:33 < Scott5114> PBS is a good channel to yell at. :P
2008-02-16 19:33 < Rschen7754> definitely not #wikipedia-en-roads
2008-02-16 19:34 < CJMiller> What channel on Freenodecan I blow off steam at?
2008-02-16 19:34 < CJMiller> What channel on Freenode can I blow off steam at?
2008-02-16 19:34 < Seddon69> #blow-off-steam
2008-02-16 19:34 < CJMiller> no stupid answers
2008-02-16 19:34 < NotASpy> #politics :/
2008-02-16 19:34 < Snowolf> :)
2008-02-16 19:34 < DannyLilithborne> no stupid questions :P
2008-02-16 19:34 < JohnReaves> CJMiller:Stop asking, we've answered
2008-02-16 19:34 < Attic_Cat> the social channels :-S
2008-02-16 19:34 < haza-w> CJMiller: #defocus
2008-02-16 19:34 < CJMiller> I checked #politics. Everyone ignores me.
2008-02-16 19:34 < Enterprise_Cat> haza-w: NO!
2008-02-16 19:34 < Scott5114> start your own channel
2008-02-16 19:34 < DannyLilithborne> hmm, wonder why
2008-02-16 19:34 < Snowolf> CJMiller: what a suprise!
2008-02-16 19:35 < JohnReaves> CJMiller:Try another network then
2008-02-16 19:35 < CJMiller> BURN IN HELL!
2008-02-16 19:35 < NotASpy> I was going to but didn't want to say that.
2008-02-16 19:35 < Scott5114> yaaaay he left
2008-02-16 19:35 < haza-w> Snowolf: Indeed...
2008-02-16 19:35 < Enterprise_Cat> Let's k-line CJMiller!
2008-02-16 19:35 < DannyLilithborne> banninate plz
2008-02-16 19:35 < JohnReaves> If he comes back
2008-02-16 19:36 < Scott5114> I just added him to my ignore list
2008-02-16 19:36 < Enterprise_Cat> he's on my silence list
2008-02-16 19:36 < haza-w> What an amusing character...
2008-02-16 19:37 * Seddon69 starts to meditate to try and restore an air of tranquility to all wiki IRc channels
2008-02-16 19:37 * Lycurgus adds BURN IN HELL! to list of national salutations.
2008-02-16 19:37 < Enterprise_Cat> I actually just took him off so I can call a staffer when he goes nuts
2008-02-16 19:37 < JohnReaves> staffers don't care, call an op
2008-02-16 19:37 < Gracenotes> 12th quarter note of Chopin's Prelude no. 20 in C minor: should it be a C major or C minor? #wikipedia, you decide!
2008-02-16 19:37 < haza-w> ...and then the nagios relay breaks the silence by reporting a colossal grid failure...
2008-02-16 19:38 < Enterprise_Cat> JohnReaves: In #defocus, they don't ban you, they k-line you
2008-02-16 19:38 < DannyLilithborne> and that's when i tampered with the DNA evidence
2008-02-16 19:38 < JohnReaves> yeah, well that's a freenode channel
2008-02-16 19:38 < tomaw> And that is simply not true.
2008-02-16 19:38 < Gracenotes> this channel used to have more people int it...
2008-02-16 19:38 < Gracenotes> -t
2008-02-16 19:38 < Dave2> /mode #defocus b would disagree with you...
2008-02-16 19:38 < tomaw> We use channel management options where possible.
2008-02-16 19:38 < haza-w> Gracenotes, what does the urtext have?
2008-02-16 19:39 < Gracenotes> haza-w: well, the first Chopin version had C major, but apparently he changed it to C minor later in his life, or something. Most pianists play C minor, but I personally like major
2008-02-16 19:39 < haza-w> What does it resolve to/from?
2008-02-16 19:40 < Gracenotes> lemme see
2008-02-16 19:41 < Gracenotes> from Fm9
2008-02-16 19:41 < Gracenotes> the melody goes G F E (or Eb, if you use C minor)
2008-02-16 19:41 < Gracenotes> then it goes to a D7
2008-02-16 19:42 < haza-w> Cm - D7? Interesting!
2008-02-16 19:42 < lucasbfr> oh god... http://files.fluctuat.net/images/c/o/conseils-parents.jpg that's awful (Dos and DOn'ts for future parents)
2008-02-16 19:44 < Random832> lucasbfr: lol - waking up with an air horn
2008-02-16 19:44 < Gracenotes> haza-w: yeah
2008-02-16 19:44 < Random832> chess - this thing has to be a joke
2008-02-16 19:45 < Gracenotes> too much tension, imho
2008-02-16 19:46 < Gracenotes> especially since D7 is a secondary dominant for G major (not minor)
2008-02-16 19:46 < Cyrius> lucasbfr: I love that one
2008-02-16 19:47 < DannyLilithborne> "drying baby" x_x
2008-02-16 19:47 < lucasbfr> "Introducing baby to pets"
2008-02-16 19:47 < Gracenotes> why make a melodic minor feel when you're going into a temporary major tonic? makes no sense :|
2008-02-16 19:48 < Gracenotes> anyway. C major ftw
2008-02-16 19:48 < DannyLilithborne> half step up ftl
2008-02-16 19:48 < Sfan00> Anyone know any Czech>
2008-02-16 19:48 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-16 19:48 < haza-w> My thoughts exactly... imagine G -C - D7 in Beethoven V...
2008-02-16 19:49 < DannyLilithborne> Beethoven da Remix dog
2008-02-16 19:49 < Sfan00> Which is czech Wikipedia channel?
2008-02-16 19:50 < DannyLilithborne> Nu är vi här med caramelldansen...
2008-02-16 19:50 < Gracenotes> Sfan00: #wikipedia- plus the Czech ISO language code
2008-02-16 19:50 < Gracenotes> which... I think... is cz? maybe?
2008-02-16 19:50 < Sfan00> Which is?
2008-02-16 19:50 < Sfan00> I tried that
2008-02-16 19:50 < Sfan00> Channel was blank
2008-02-16 19:50 < Gracenotes> well, then no one's in it :)
2008-02-16 19:50 < Sfan00> Bother
2008-02-16 19:51 < Gracenotes> actually, no
2008-02-16 19:51 < Sfan00> I was trying to find the original title :)
2008-02-16 19:51 < Gracenotes> it doesn't use the ISO language code. odd.
2008-02-16 19:51 < Gracenotes> #wikipedia-cs
2008-02-16 19:51 < Gracenotes> courtesy of Meta
2008-02-16 19:54 < White_Cat> Gracenotes meta has no courtesy
2008-02-16 19:55 < Mercerism> if anyone wants to make anew ISO program
2008-02-16 19:55 < Mercerism> you should call it ISO powerful
2008-02-16 19:55 < White_Cat> ISO program?
2008-02-16 19:55 < White_Cat> whats that?
2008-02-16 19:55 < White_Cat> ISO is the international standards organization
2008-02-16 19:55 < DannyLilithborne> is there a reason why Firefox would unexplainedly load webpages extremely slow?
2008-02-16 19:56 < White_Cat> yes
2008-02-16 19:56 < White_Cat> you have been running it for too long
2008-02-16 19:56 < White_Cat> and this is something that came with last pacth I suspect
2008-02-16 19:56 < White_Cat> as I experience the same thing
2008-02-16 19:56 < White_Cat> try reloading the page just after trying to access it for the first time
2008-02-16 19:57 < White_Cat> it had taken me 5 minutes to load google today
2008-02-16 19:57 < Mercerism> iso is a perfect image of a cd
2008-02-16 19:57 < White_Cat> thats an ISO format
2008-02-16 19:57 < White_Cat> and its not perfect
2008-02-16 19:57 < White_Cat> that'd be a .bin
2008-02-16 19:57 < Mercerism> a perfect image
2008-02-16 19:57 < White_Cat> ISO is the cd image format the international standards organization came up with
2008-02-16 19:57 < White_Cat> Mercerism no it isnt
2008-02-16 19:58 < Mercerism> a perfect image
2008-02-16 19:58 < White_Cat> its only the first track
2008-02-16 19:58 < Mercerism> oh
2008-02-16 19:58 < White_Cat> cds with second or third tracks are not coppied
2008-02-16 19:58 < DannyLilithborne> :(
2008-02-16 19:58 < White_Cat> and cd protection often causes copy errors
2008-02-16 19:58 < Mercerism> White_Cat: you ruined my life
2008-02-16 19:58 < White_Cat> .bin is a binary copy of a CD image
2008-02-16 19:58 < White_Cat> therefore it is 'perfect'
2008-02-16 19:59 < White_Cat> bin files however have the disadvantage of being overal slow since unlike ISOs they are pure binary
2008-02-16 19:59 < White_Cat> where else ISOs store it not in binary but as files
2008-02-16 19:59 < White_Cat> tho still binary its more computer-cpu firendly
2008-02-16 19:59 < White_Cat> and he has already left and I am talking to myself
2008-02-16 20:00 < White_Cat> Gracenotes I blame you
2008-02-16 20:01 < Random832> White_Cat: huh?
2008-02-16 20:02 < Random832> I don't understand what you mean by "not in binary but as files"
2008-02-16 20:02 < White_Cat> Random832 iso is like a zip file
2008-02-16 20:02 < Random832> an ISO is a single file that is on the order of about 650 MB, it is not a directory full of files
2008-02-16 20:02 < brown_cat> our school was in the news :o
2008-02-16 20:03 < Random832> White_Cat: the difference with bin is it is a copy of _all_ the bits on the CD, whereas an ISO is a single data track of the CD
2008-02-16 20:03 < White_Cat> Random832 if for example cd has non-data tracks - ISO cant handle it
2008-02-16 20:03 < brown_cat> http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,23224335-2761,00.html O_O
2008-02-16 20:03 < White_Cat> Random832 exactly
2008-02-16 20:03 < White_Cat> you know what it is
2008-02-16 20:03 < Random832> well, right - but ISO being "not in binary but as files" is not a very good way to characterize it
2008-02-16 20:04 < White_Cat> Random832 all files on a computer are binary
2008-02-16 20:04 < White_Cat> Random832 well I am not a real expert in anything so
2008-02-16 20:04 < White_Cat> I try to help
2008-02-16 20:04 < White_Cat> but as obvious I am terrible at it
2008-02-16 20:04 < Random832> well, the way you phrased it
2008-02-16 20:04 < Random832> made it sound like an ISO was a directory that was full of individual files in the native filesystem
2008-02-16 20:04 < Random832> rather t han being a single file
2008-02-16 20:04 < White_Cat> Random832: you ruined my life
2008-02-16 20:04 < White_Cat> :P
2008-02-16 20:07 < Random832> :P
2008-02-16 20:07 < Gracenotes> White_Cat: I was talking about ISO as in the International Organization for Standardization :)
2008-02-16 20:08 < Gracenotes> not an ISO image, which was developed by the ISO
2008-02-16 20:08 < White_Cat> no such organization
2008-02-16 20:08 < White_Cat> its International Standardization Organization
2008-02-16 20:08 < Gracenotes> they develop international standards
2008-02-16 20:08 < Gracenotes> timestamps, etc.
2008-02-16 20:08 < White_Cat> not International Organization for Standardization
2008-02-16 20:08 < Gracenotes> White_Cat: then why do we have an article on them? :)
2008-02-16 20:09 < Gracenotes> IOfS is a loose translation
2008-02-16 20:09 < Gracenotes> hm
2008-02-16 20:09 < Gracenotes> no, actually, it's the literal translation
2008-02-16 20:09 * White_Cat kills Gracenotes
2008-02-16 20:09 < White_Cat> its french
2008-02-16 20:09 < White_Cat> no wonder its messed up
2008-02-16 20:10 < White_Cat> why are french taking over the world?
2008-02-16 20:10 < White_Cat> arent they supposed to surrender?
2008-02-16 20:10 * White_Cat whines
2008-02-16 20:12 < gwern> in the land of the surrender-monkeys, the cheese-eater is king
2008-02-16 20:12 < gwern> y'know, the intelligence communities, and especially the british ones, must really love the war on terror
2008-02-16 20:12 < Bonaparte> ahem, Bonaparte and all that
2008-02-16 20:12 * Gracenotes wonders if gwern is being frank with us
2008-02-16 20:12 < gwern> I mean, in the cold war, you could be badly embarassed by being infiltrated and controlled by the enemy
2008-02-16 20:13 < gwern> but what terrorist is going to infiltrate the CIA?
2008-02-16 20:13 < gwern> *re embarassment: the british ones have an awful lot to live down
2008-02-16 20:13 < gwern> Gracenotes: only when frankfurters are involved
2008-02-16 20:13 < Gracenotes> gwern: we don't have any real embarrassments, us Americans. Well, besides Vietnam, but we didn't lose that. Really. It was, uh, a tie.
2008-02-16 20:13 < Bonaparte> so your saying a member of the cia cant be a terrorist?
2008-02-16 20:14 < Gracenotes> We're totally going to win Iraq too. Maybe 50-100 years more, but We Shall Overcome
2008-02-16 20:14 < gwern> Bonaparte: no, just that 'the' terrorists aren't gonna infiltrate the cia in any embarassing fashion
2008-02-16 20:14 < Sfan00> OK Anyone over 40 in here?
2008-02-16 20:14 < Sfan00> And from the UK?
2008-02-16 20:14 < gwern> Bonaparte: as opposed to the cold war, where the KGB totally pwned the brits
2008-02-16 20:14 < Sfan00> Erm
2008-02-16 20:15 < Sfan00> Thats debatable
2008-02-16 20:15 < gwern> Sfan00: yeah, because all those upper-level moles weren't totally pwnment?
2008-02-16 20:15 < Sfan00> There were not that many moles
2008-02-16 20:15 < Bonaparte> old people? on my internet? I dont think so
2008-02-16 20:16 < quanticle> gwern: However, at least in the Cold War, you could assume your enemy was rational, and that simplified things greatly.
2008-02-16 20:16 < Sfan00> I was needing someone to assist in writng an article on Saturday Morning Cinema
2008-02-16 20:16 < quanticle> gwern: The war on terror is game where one side is playing poker and the other is playing chess
2008-02-16 20:16 < gwern> Bonaparte: now, I wouldn't say the CIA is pure as the driven snow - there's a pretty good chance the israelis and chinese have some well-placed agents, particularly the israelis
2008-02-16 20:16 < Sfan00> quanticle: the KGB rational?
2008-02-16 20:16 < Bonaparte> ¨for the motherland¨ is rational
2008-02-16 20:16 < Sfan00> (Or for that matter the CIA?)
2008-02-16 20:17 < gwern> quanticle: what is irrational about al qaeda actions? I regard their strategy as quite effective
2008-02-16 20:17 < quanticle> gwern: That's true, I guess.
2008-02-16 20:17 < gwern> especially 9/11. who could dream of such return on investment?
2008-02-16 20:17 < Sfan00> Al Qaeda from an inteligence perspective isn't that old
2008-02-16 20:17 < quanticle> gwern: Heh. That attack payed for itself many times over.
2008-02-16 20:17 < Sfan00> but it's older than people think
2008-02-16 20:17 < Gracenotes> gwern: 1) Irrationality 2) ????? 3) Profit!
2008-02-16 20:17 < White_Cat> Gracenotes vietnam wasnt a loose
2008-02-16 20:17 < Sfan00> Ever read Green Mantle?
2008-02-16 20:17 < White_Cat> systematic withdrawl
2008-02-16 20:17 < Gracenotes> White_Cat: lol, of course it wasn't
2008-02-16 20:18 < gwern> quanticle: I can't even calculate how many times - what is the roi now, 2 or 3 trillion USD to 500,000?
2008-02-16 20:18 < Bonaparte> *chan? in my wiki? wait wut?
2008-02-16 20:18 < gwern> the profit meme is an old south park one...
2008-02-16 20:18 < quanticle> Sfan00: Well, from all accounts Al Qaeda was founded in the '80s as a sort of loose association of jihadis that got together in in Afghanistan.
2008-02-16 20:18 < White_Cat> Gracenotes viet-nam is a rather fun study
2008-02-16 20:18 < Sfan00> OK
2008-02-16 20:18 < gwern> White_Cat: right-wing backstab myth ftw!
2008-02-16 20:18 < Gracenotes> gwern: where did they get that return from?
2008-02-16 20:18 < White_Cat> quanticle not true
2008-02-16 20:18 < Gracenotes> are you talking about oil money spent on weapons?
2008-02-16 20:19 < White_Cat> al-quida was an anti-communist russian invasion force
2008-02-16 20:19 < Sfan00> But groups like Al-Qaeda have been conceptualised at least as far back as British Occupation of Afghanistan iirc
2008-02-16 20:19 < White_Cat> british occupation of afganistan?
2008-02-16 20:19 < gwern> Gracenotes: how do you mean? between the invasions of iraq and afghanistan, wasted US homeland security expenditures, and all the other stuff, I'd say that when all is said and done, al qaeda will have gotten the US to waste at least that much
2008-02-16 20:19 < Gracenotes> gwern: ah, but they haven't actually gained anything, have they?
2008-02-16 20:20 < Sfan00> White_cat: At the end of the 19th Century the British were active in that part of the world
2008-02-16 20:20 < Gracenotes> other than have us lose
2008-02-16 20:20 < quanticle> White_Cat: No. Al Qaeda was founded by Osama bin Laden (the moneyman) and Ayman al-Zawahiri (the brains) because they wanted to continue the jihad even after the defeat of the Soviets. Also, they were kinda pissed at US forces being in Saudi Arabia.
2008-02-16 20:20 < gwern> Gracenotes: zero sum game
2008-02-16 20:20 < Gracenotes> hm
2008-02-16 20:20 < gwern> Gracenotes: and they have directly acheived some of their policy goals, such as withdrawal of US troops from saudi arabia
2008-02-16 20:20 < Gracenotes> is that John Nash?
2008-02-16 20:20 < White_Cat> During the nineteenth century, following the Anglo-Afghan wars (fought 1839–42, 1878–80, and lastly in 1919) and the ascension of the Barakzai dynasty, Afghanistan saw much of its territory and autonomy ceded to the United Kingdom.
2008-02-16 20:20 < Sfan00> I think about the time the British got power in the NW Frontier in what is Now Pakistan, some of the local tribes got angry
2008-02-16 20:21 < Sfan00> White_Cat: yeah
2008-02-16 20:21 < gwern> Gracenotes: nash is associated with game theory yes but I don't think he invented it
2008-02-16 20:21 < White_Cat> The UK exercised a great deal of influence, and it was not until King Amanullah Khan acceded to the throne in 1919 that Afghanistan re-gained complete independence.
2008-02-16 20:21 < Gracenotes> ah
2008-02-16 20:21 < Sfan00> I think some of the groups involved on those wars were Jihadist
2008-02-16 20:21 < gwern> von neuman did, iirc
2008-02-16 20:21 < quanticle> White_Cat: Right, but what does Al-Qaeda have to do with any of that?
2008-02-16 20:21 < Sfan00> at least in character IIRC
2008-02-16 20:22 < White_Cat> However, in 1973 Zahir Shah's brother-in-law, Mohammed Daoud Khan, launched a bloodless coup and became the first President of Afghanistan.
2008-02-16 20:22 < White_Cat> thats probably US involvement
2008-02-16 20:22 < White_Cat> Daoud Khan and his entire family were murdered in 1978, when the communist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan launched a coup known as the Great Saur Revolution and took over the government.
2008-02-16 20:22 < quanticle> Yeah. Afghanistan has been pretty much an unconquerable land since, well, forever. Hell, even Alexander the Great couldn't pacify this place...
2008-02-16 20:22 < White_Cat> Thats soviet involvement
2008-02-16 20:23 < Sfan00> Al Qeada may in fact (in repsect of Afgahnistan) be a resurgennce of ideas that had been kept under control by British and later Afghan rulers...
2008-02-16 20:23 < Sfan00> (and then of course the soviet occupation)
2008-02-16 20:23 < White_Cat> Sfan00 not at all
2008-02-16 20:23 < White_Cat> Jihadist ideal did not exist whatsoever
2008-02-16 20:23 < White_Cat> in the past jihad was the equavalent of the christian crusade
2008-02-16 20:23 < quanticle> Is it just me, or do we not have any good generals these days? Am the only one here who wonders what Alexander would have done with a proper mechanized army?
2008-02-16 20:24 < quanticle> *Am I
2008-02-16 20:24 < White_Cat> quanticle we have plenty of great generals
2008-02-16 20:24 < White_Cat> but unlike alexanders era we lack great wars
2008-02-16 20:24 < Sfan00> Al Qadeqa does however have more direct links with theologicaly fundamentalist groups in Suadi Arabia than it does to the Anglo-Afghani wars
2008-02-16 20:24 < quanticle> White_Cat: Yeah, and, to be *very* frank, I don't know whether to like that fact or not.
2008-02-16 20:24 < gwern> quanticle: I would hope not. the first thing such a general would do is overthrow the civilians
2008-02-16 20:25 < White_Cat> Sfan00 Al-Quida calls anti-west pro-middle age philosophy
2008-02-16 20:25 < quanticle> gwern: True. Just like what Napoleon did to the French leadership.
2008-02-16 20:25 < gwern> such a general is a mad dog who should be shot for the good of mankind
2008-02-16 20:25 < White_Cat> they are 'islamist fundementalist' - an extreme belief that wants to enforce daily life with sharia rules
2008-02-16 20:25 < brown_cat> I would pay ANYTHING to be that kid http://seaworld.myfun.com.au/Attractions/Rides/Sesame-Street-Beach.htm
2008-02-16 20:25 < gwern> quanticle: although the directorate did deserve it, probably
2008-02-16 20:25 < quanticle> gwern: Alexander? Mad dog?
2008-02-16 20:25 < White_Cat> something only used in the middle ages
2008-02-16 20:25 < Sfan00> Al Qeada IIRC also grew out of a resistance movement and because some fundamentalists couldn't cope having the US in Suadi Arabia - nominally to defend oil fields from Iraq initally
2008-02-16 20:26 < White_Cat> Sfan00 Al-Quida isnt really a dangerous organization
2008-02-16 20:26 < gwern> quanticle: yes. he had no moderation. what do you call someone who yearns to endlessly slaughter people? I call him a mad dog
2008-02-16 20:26 < White_Cat> Sfan00 oh not at all
2008-02-16 20:26 < Sfan00> (Depsite the fact that Iraq did not at the time pose that great a threat to Saudi Oil)
2008-02-16 20:26 < quanticle> gwern: He wasn't after endless slaughter. Alexander was after an empire.
2008-02-16 20:26 < gwern> and I use 'mad dog' only because I prefer not to use psychological terms like 'sociopath' or 'psychopath'...
2008-02-16 20:26 < quanticle> gwern: He wanted to conquer the world, not genocide.
2008-02-16 20:26 < gwern> quanticle: and he had it.
2008-02-16 20:26 < White_Cat> there is a very twisted relationship between saudi arabia, united states and islamist fundementalists
2008-02-16 20:27 < quanticle> gwern: And then he died of the flu, of all things...
2008-02-16 20:27 < White_Cat> islamist fundementalists are actualy a US ally and at the same time arc-enemy
2008-02-16 20:27 < Sfan00> White_Cat: And the ruling elite in Saudi?
2008-02-16 20:27 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, former ally
2008-02-16 20:27 < White_Cat> sort of like Heisenbergs Uncertaintly principle
2008-02-16 20:27 < Sfan00> Look at what happens with Arms Deals...
2008-02-16 20:27 * gwern really doesn't think wanting an empire or to control the world reall justifies all the slaughter necessary
2008-02-16 20:27 < White_Cat> ruling elite in Saudi are islamist fundementalists in their country
2008-02-16 20:27 < White_Cat> and a US ally
2008-02-16 20:28 < quanticle> gwern: Well, it doesn't, but since when has lack of justification stopped people from trying?
2008-02-16 20:28 < White_Cat> they are himpcrates too because when they go to the US they drink like crazy, something they ban in saudi arabia
2008-02-16 20:28 < Sfan00> Arms deal is being investigated for corruption, Suadi Elite gets nervous and threatens to cut intelligence ties...
2008-02-16 20:28 < Sfan00> The corruption investigation is quietly dropped....
2008-02-16 20:28 < gwern> quanticle: when people are like that, but not backed by an army, we call them murderers, mad, and shoot them. I just don't except people for their putatively political reasons
2008-02-16 20:28 < White_Cat> Sfan00 Saudis can influence the US because US lets them
2008-02-16 20:29 < gwern> Sfan00: wasn't it the brits who dropped the investigation?
2008-02-16 20:29 < White_Cat> gwern is right
2008-02-16 20:29 < White_Cat> no doubt US was involved
2008-02-16 20:29 < White_Cat> I despise the saudi governmentr
2008-02-16 20:29 < Sfan00> I was saying there's a link with the Suadi Elite as well as Saudi Arabia generally
2008-02-16 20:29 < Sfan00> How many Bin Ladens were flow out of the US after 9/11
2008-02-16 20:29 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-16 20:29 < White_Cat> Sfan00 like I said a twisted relationship
2008-02-16 20:30 < White_Cat> Sfan00 like I said a twisted relationship
2008-02-16 20:30 < quanticle> Yeah, pretty much everything in that part of the world is twisted.
2008-02-16 20:30 < White_Cat> Sfan00 the real threat is not al-quida or the saudi elite
2008-02-16 20:30 < White_Cat> but the islamist fundementalists
2008-02-16 20:30 < White_Cat> people generaly see "islamist fundementalists" as the devil
2008-02-16 20:30 < Sfan00> Which are nominaly what Al-Qaede are lablled as
2008-02-16 20:30 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, yeah. Al Qaeda is an organization of islamist fundamentalists.
2008-02-16 20:31 < Sfan00> 'extrmist'
2008-02-16 20:31 < White_Cat> but not understanding them is reall part as a problem
2008-02-16 20:31 < White_Cat> quanticle yes and they arent the only one
2008-02-16 20:31 < Xihix> Question
2008-02-16 20:31 < White_Cat> and by far al-quida is not the most active organization
2008-02-16 20:31 < White_Cat> islamist fundementalists do what they do in the name of decency
2008-02-16 20:31 < quanticle> White_Cat: Right. I consider Hamas and Hezbollah to be more worrisome
2008-02-16 20:31 < Xihix> If I was to go to school and yell something like, "OSAMA SUCKS PENIS!" and get in trouble, could I accuse the principal of supporting terrorism?
2008-02-16 20:31 < White_Cat> hamas is small fry
2008-02-16 20:32 < White_Cat> hezbollah is a real threat
2008-02-16 20:32 < quanticle> White_Cat: Hamas isn't small fry by any means, but they restrict themselves geographically.
2008-02-16 20:32 < White_Cat> islamist fundementalists do what they do against the immoral ways of the west
2008-02-16 20:32 < White_Cat> quanticle exactly their potential is restricted to that
2008-02-16 20:32 < White_Cat> hezbollah operates in every european country
2008-02-16 20:33 < White_Cat> countries like austria overlook their activities
2008-02-16 20:33 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, it depends on what their future leadership says about that. The funny thing about these groups is that they are fairly easy to extend geographically.
2008-02-16 20:33 < White_Cat> I dont know why but they will pay a heavy price
2008-02-16 20:33 < White_Cat> quanticle no they arent
2008-02-16 20:33 < White_Cat> hezbollah wont allow it
2008-02-16 20:34 < White_Cat> hezbollah owns lebanon and jordan as far as illegal activity is concerned
2008-02-16 20:34 < White_Cat> which landlocks hamas
2008-02-16 20:34 < quanticle> White_Cat: Hmmm. That's true.
2008-02-16 20:34 < White_Cat> on the other side there is israel and egypt so they are trapped for good
2008-02-16 20:35 < White_Cat> hezbollah will only help hamas so long as its convenient
2008-02-16 20:35 < quanticle> White_Cat: Basically use them to draw Israeli airstrikes?
2008-02-16 20:35 < White_Cat> quanticle no to keep israel occupied
2008-02-16 20:35 < Sfan00> Any experts on German Cinema in?
2008-02-16 20:36 < MessedRocker> doesn't hezbollah also do charitable activity?
2008-02-16 20:36 < White_Cat> so long as they are busy with hamas hezbollah can do as they please
2008-02-16 20:36 < White_Cat> MessedRocker oh yes
2008-02-16 20:36 < White_Cat> they are like the red cross
2008-02-16 20:36 < White_Cat> but unlike the red cross they carry guns
2008-02-16 20:36 < White_Cat> and provoke the destruction they fix
2008-02-16 20:36 < MessedRocker> so they are the evil cross
2008-02-16 20:36 < White_Cat> and win peoples heart and minds
2008-02-16 20:37 < White_Cat> but they make it look like they are merely defending
2008-02-16 20:37 < White_Cat> they arent evil at all
2008-02-16 20:37 < White_Cat> thats a bush characterization that undermines the issue
2008-02-16 20:37 < MessedRocker> so their good stuff is pure propoganda?
2008-02-16 20:38 < White_Cat> and actualy being classified as evil by bush makes them look good
2008-02-16 20:38 < White_Cat> MessedRocker they do good stuff
2008-02-16 20:38 < White_Cat> but their bad stuff is well cloaked
2008-02-16 20:38 < quanticle> White_Cat: Unlike Hamas, Hezbollah does not have the destruction of Israel as one of their core charters. Hezbollah was founded to end Israeli involvement in Lebanon.
2008-02-16 20:39 < White_Cat> quanticle hezbollah wants israel gone
2008-02-16 20:39 < White_Cat> trust me
2008-02-16 20:39 < White_Cat> no one likes israel :P
2008-02-16 20:39 * Arria just watched "Ghostbusters" (the first movie), for the first time in at least a decade
2008-02-16 20:39 < quanticle> White_Cat except for us.
2008-02-16 20:39 < White_Cat> Arria remarkable :P
2008-02-16 20:39 < NotAPolecat> Kosovo to declare independence Sunday afternoon.
2008-02-16 20:39 < White_Cat> quanticle I bet US politics would be less comlicated without israel :P
2008-02-16 20:40 < White_Cat> NotACow in other words in a few hours
2008-02-16 20:40 < quanticle> NotAPolecat really?
2008-02-16 20:40 < Arria> Maybe I'm immature or something, but I found it just as funny as when I was little. :-p
2008-02-16 20:40 < White_Cat> quanticle yes
2008-02-16 20:40 < NotAPolecat> So ARD insists.
2008-02-16 20:40 < NotAPolecat> (German TV of record)
2008-02-16 20:40 < White_Cat> 9 hours
2008-02-16 20:40 < quanticle> NotAPolecat hmmm, what's Serbia saying about that?
2008-02-16 20:40 < NotAPolecat> Can't really do much
2008-02-16 20:40 < White_Cat> quanticle they sent UN angry letters
2008-02-16 20:40 < Lubaf> Is it true? Are bears catholic? Does the Pope, well, you know...
2008-02-16 20:40 < White_Cat> but serbians kinda want this
2008-02-16 20:41 < White_Cat> Lubaf the pope sleeps with bears
2008-02-16 20:41 < NotAPolecat> Bears are Godless killing machines.
2008-02-16 20:41 < quanticle> White_Cat: If bears are catholic, then does the pope respect the second amendment?
2008-02-16 20:41 < White_Cat> the pope tames them
2008-02-16 20:41 < Cyrius> does the pope shit in the woods?
2008-02-16 20:41 < White_Cat> quanticle only their arms
2008-02-16 20:42 * Cyrius wasn't paying attention, but felt like saying it anyway
2008-02-16 20:42 < White_Cat> Sfan00 very few people understand what the 'war on terror' thing supposed to be about
2008-02-16 20:42 < Lubaf> Cyrius: That's the question I was trying to say without using the wrong language.
2008-02-16 20:42 < Arria> If he does, the woods become holy.
2008-02-16 20:42 < quanticle> I'm sure that, for some value of pope, and some value of woods, there has existed a pope that did his business in the woods.
2008-02-16 20:42 < White_Cat> iraq was never a target
2008-02-16 20:43 < Arria> </polically incorrect>
2008-02-16 20:43 < Cyrius> Arria: well, that lends a new terror to the concept of holy water
2008-02-16 20:43 < Lubaf> None of this answers if bears are Catholic.
2008-02-16 20:43 < Lubaf> Are they?
2008-02-16 20:43 < NotAPolecat> There is a tiger in the woods.
2008-02-16 20:43 < White_Cat> Lubaf Bears are pagan
2008-02-16 20:43 < Arria> (Disclaimer: I lasted all of three months at an all-girls Catholic school.)
2008-02-16 20:43 < White_Cat> Arria fun
2008-02-16 20:43 < White_Cat> too bad you arent a guy
2008-02-16 20:43 < quanticle> White_Cat: Iraq wasn't supposed to be part of the War on Terror, but, given the number of jihadis we've trained there, it sure is now.
2008-02-16 20:44 < White_Cat> quanticle not really
2008-02-16 20:44 < Arria> I suspect some of the nuns were guys.
2008-02-16 20:44 < White_Cat> I expect to see iraq get into a full scale war
2008-02-16 20:44 < Arria> (Not really.)
2008-02-16 20:45 < Arria> OK, you can come out now. I'll stop. Honest.
2008-02-16 20:46 < quanticle> White_Cat: Civil war, you mean?
2008-02-16 20:46 < NotAPolecat> [[Kosovo]] should get an "ongoing event" tag
2008-02-16 20:46 < White_Cat> quanticle no
2008-02-16 20:46 < White_Cat> war
2008-02-16 20:46 < White_Cat> between syria and iran
2008-02-16 20:46 < White_Cat> kurds to the north will be promptly crushed for their arrogance
2008-02-16 20:46 < quanticle> White_Cat: Oh. I don't think so. I think it'll turn into a proxy war, like Lebanon, but on a much larger scale.
2008-02-16 20:46 < White_Cat> they pissed of everybody
2008-02-16 20:46 < White_Cat> quanticle yes
2008-02-16 20:47 < White_Cat> iran and syria wont get directly involved
2008-02-16 20:47 < White_Cat> but we will see fewer suicide attacks
2008-02-16 20:47 < White_Cat> and more conventional warfare
2008-02-16 20:47 < quanticle> White_Cat: And we called the Lebanon conflict a civil war, even though it was a proxy war.
2008-02-16 20:47 < White_Cat> quanticle then again syria and iran may want to get directly involved
2008-02-16 20:47 < White_Cat> it isnt like iran didnt invade iraq before
2008-02-16 20:47 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, I think we'll see more of all kinds of warfare, both conventional and guerrilla.
2008-02-16 20:48 < White_Cat> I am curious when the hell US will leave iraq
2008-02-16 20:48 < White_Cat> not before bush leaves for sure
2008-02-16 20:48 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, actually Iraq invaded Iran. But that was when the Iraqi Sunnis were in charge.
2008-02-16 20:48 < White_Cat> but McCain wants to stay
2008-02-16 20:48 < NotAPolecat> What's the flag of Kosovo?
2008-02-16 20:48 < White_Cat> quanticle iran invaded back
2008-02-16 20:48 < White_Cat> NotAPolecat ots a blie flag with stars
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> *blue
2008-02-16 20:49 < NotAPolecat> ok
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> to date it wasnt adopted officialy
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> tomorow that will change
2008-02-16 20:49 < quanticle> White_Cat: Yeah. More like the Iraqis lost against Iranian human wave attacks and were pushed back behind their original borders.
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> stars are in yellow btw
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> quanticle it was a stalemate
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> both sides declared victory
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> iranians did cross into iraq
2008-02-16 20:49 < White_Cat> but were gassed out
2008-02-16 20:50 < quanticle> White_Cat: Yeah. It devolved into an Arabic WWI, with all the ensuing nastiness, such as gas weapons...
2008-02-16 20:50 < White_Cat> iraq iran border is a disaster zone
2008-02-16 20:50 < NotAPolecat> but the splurge is workin
2008-02-16 20:50 < quanticle> White_Cat: Yeah. Minefields all over the place.
2008-02-16 20:50 < White_Cat> once these countries become civilised they'll build monuments I suspect
2008-02-16 20:50 * White_Cat mines quanticle's room
2008-02-16 20:50 < NotAPolecat> Got my surgie workin' but it/just won't work on you
2008-02-16 20:51 * quanticle quantum tunnels out
2008-02-16 20:51 * quanticle wonders if that's how Ryoko can float through walls
2008-02-16 20:53 < White_Cat> quanticle she is a creation of Washu
2008-02-16 20:53 < White_Cat> anything is possible
2008-02-16 20:53 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-02-16 20:53 < Gracenotes> oh dear, I just subscribed to sxephil. >.<
2008-02-16 20:53 < White_Cat> you are dealing with a class A otaku mister
2008-02-16 20:53 < Gracenotes> on YouTube. At least he makes videos are a relatively consistent rate.
2008-02-16 20:53 < quanticle> Limerickdb.com <-- Its like bash.org, but for limericks
2008-02-16 20:53 < White_Cat> obscure anime referances wont go pass by me
2008-02-16 20:54 < Gracenotes> s/are a/at a
2008-02-16 20:54 < quanticle> White_Cat: Heh. I consider myself a Lieutenant grade otaku, as opposed to a Captain grade one, like yourself.
2008-02-16 20:54 < White_Cat> I am a vice admiral
2008-02-16 20:54 < quanticle> White_Cat: And Ryoko isn't obscure...
2008-02-16 20:55 < White_Cat> quanticle no
2008-02-16 20:55 < White_Cat> but her abilities are
2008-02-16 20:55 < NotAPolecat> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_honored_to_be_one_who
2008-02-16 20:55 < White_Cat> and that she was created by Washu
2008-02-16 20:55 * White_Cat slaps quanticle a bit with Ryo-Ohki
2008-02-16 20:55 < White_Cat> in ship form
2008-02-16 20:56 * quanticle ducks behind Keno-ohki
2008-02-16 20:56 < quanticle> Also in ship form
2008-02-16 20:57 < quanticle> "According to Yardley, upon reading the news of Ledger's death on CNN.com, his first thoughts were for Ledger's parents, baby daughter, and Michelle Williams, the actor's former fiancée, . His next thought, for Ledger's Wikipedia page, came immediately, Yardley explained. So immediately, in fact, that, according to a list of IP addresses found in the entry's editing history, Yardley added the date into the free, user-generated online encyclope
2008-02-16 20:57 < quanticle> *Wikipedian
2008-02-16 20:59 < Random832> quanticle: what's this from?
2008-02-16 21:00 < quanticle> NotAPolecat's link
2008-02-16 21:01 < NotAPolecat> The Onion, it's deadpan satire.
2008-02-16 21:01 < quanticle> NotAPolecat: That article is a brilliant potrait of a wiki-addict's psyche.
2008-02-16 21:01 < NotAPolecat> yep.
2008-02-16 21:02 < NotAPolecat> they probably have a few regulars on the staff.
2008-02-16 21:02 * jeremyb glares at CJMiller
2008-02-16 21:02 < kenlyric> the onion is getting more subtle
2008-02-16 21:03 < Alkivar> here's an odd question for you folks
2008-02-16 21:03 < Alkivar> so i stripped a harddrive down to bits for fun
2008-02-16 21:04 < Alkivar> and the PCB controller board for it was removable on its own
2008-02-16 21:04 < Alkivar> if you plugged in just the pcb would the computer think it had a hard drive there?
2008-02-16 21:04 < kenlyric> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/patriots_season_perfect_for_rest is so oddly true and funny at the same time
2008-02-16 21:04 < Alkivar> obviously you wouldnt be able to write data to it
2008-02-16 21:05 < quanticle> Alkivar: Yeah. If you could trick the controller into working without a drive attached.
2008-02-16 21:05 < quanticle> Alkivar: One of the cures for a "dead" hard drive is to get an identical one and switch PCBs.
2008-02-16 21:06 < quanticle> kenlyric: I especially like http://www.theonion.com/content/news/asian_markets_fall_like_cherry
2008-02-16 21:06 < White_Cat> quanticle asians dont use cherry as a currecy
2008-02-16 21:06 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-16 21:07 < White_Cat> only exeption is Mynamar (Burma)
2008-02-16 21:07 < quanticle> White_Cat: The full title is: Asian Markets Fall Like Cherry Blossoms
2008-02-16 21:07 < Random832> no, the full title is Asian Markets Fall Like Cherry Blossoms In Gentle Spring Rain
2008-02-16 21:07 < White_Cat> oh its an Oh My Goddess! title
2008-02-16 21:07 < quanticle> er, yeah, what he said
2008-02-16 21:07 < White_Cat> Ah! Asian Markets Fall Like Cherry Blossoms In Gentle Spring Rain?
2008-02-16 21:08 < quanticle> Favorite quote: Our worst monthly drop; rate cuts make investors flee—to commodities,
2008-02-16 21:08 < kenlyric> it's an onion artile title. They always cut off after a certain number of words
2008-02-16 21:09 < quanticle> "Our speculation economy was spring wine to those who believed the Middle Kingdom could support an emerging middle class, and that while American and European currency stimulated growth, all would prosper," said Jin Fusen, an executive investment director for ING at the Hong Kong bourse. "But it seems that we were attempting to ascend to the Monkey King's Heaven by treading upon a bridge cunningly crafted of obedient birds; and lo! In our haste
2008-02-16 21:10 < Random832> heh - "Rwanda - The Land That Time, Newsweek, And USA Today Forgot"
2008-02-16 21:11 < quanticle> "Shaq Terrified Of Phoenix Suns After Reading About Supernovas"
2008-02-16 21:11 < Random832> of course, the picture is a galaxy, not a supernova
2008-02-16 21:16 < Lycurgus> "Our speculation economy was spring wine to those who believed the Middle Kingdom could support an emerging middle class, and that while American and European currency stimulated growth, all would prosper," said Jin Fusen, an
2008-02-16 21:16 < Lycurgus> executive investment director for ING at th Hong Kong bourse. "But it seems that we were attempting to ascend to the Monkey King's Heaven by treading upon a bridge cunninglny crafted of obedient birds; and lo! In our haste - test to see if it's irssi or his client.
2008-02-16 21:17 < Lycurgus> course could be Tor or freenode or config of this channel
2008-02-16 21:22 < Lubaf> Nobody's touched [[Wikipedia:Things that should not be surprising]] since November.
2008-02-16 21:22 < Ceiling_Cat> AHA!!!!!!!!!
2008-02-16 21:23 * Ceiling_Cat found it!
2008-02-16 21:23 < Mike2> this isn't doing Hillary any favours http://youtube.com/watch?v=fQKle81Rifk
2008-02-16 21:23 < quanticle> Lycurgus: You're late :)
2008-02-16 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2007_August_31#Mythological_god_with_the_ability_to_impregnate_women_with_his_stare
2008-02-16 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> it took 6 months
2008-02-16 21:23 < Messedrocker> didn't he end up participating in the debate?
2008-02-16 21:23 < Buffalosoldier92> O_o?
2008-02-16 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> but it finally came up again
2008-02-16 21:23 < quanticle> "Patriots: 'Better A Diamond With A Flaw Than A Pebble Without'"
2008-02-16 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Trauco]]
2008-02-16 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> Trauco can impregnate women with his stare
2008-02-16 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> according to myth
2008-02-16 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> (best super power *ever*)
2008-02-16 21:24 < Buffalosoldier92> lol
2008-02-16 21:25 < gwern> lol cnn can't cpedit headlines: ''Kosovo to declare independence from Sunday'
2008-02-16 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> Whoever is chosen by the trauco will go to him, even if she is sleeping, and fall enraptured at his feet. Tradition says he appears disguised as a priest or a wealthy landowner. The woman who is chosen by the trauco never forgets the encounter, as the love making skills of the trauco are underscored by young women as something which no man could ever possess.
2008-02-16 21:25 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 21:25 * gwern is sure Sunday will be deeply distressed by Kosovo's secession
2008-02-16 21:25 < quanticle> gwern: Its obvious that they're going to a 6 day week.
2008-02-16 21:25 < quanticle> gwern: Does Saturday have an opinion?
2008-02-16 21:25 < gwern> quanticle: america must too! as their weekend is shorter, they will have a competitive advantage!
2008-02-16 21:25 < Buffalosoldier92> rotflmao
2008-02-16 21:26 < gwern> quanticle: it released a short statement to the press that it was pleased at kosovo's vote of confidence in it
2008-02-16 21:26 * Ceiling_Cat stares at Gwern
2008-02-16 21:26 * gwern has no eyes, and blindly gazes back
2008-02-16 21:27 < Lycurgus> late? What do you mean?
2008-02-16 21:27 * quanticle spears Ceiling_Cat with heat-vision
2008-02-16 21:28 < quanticle> O_O
2008-02-16 21:28 < Buffalosoldier92> o.o
2008-02-16 21:28 < quanticle> Or *.* rather
2008-02-16 21:28 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 21:28 < Gargantua> only if you're asian.
2008-02-16 21:28 * Messedrocker watches Ceiling_Cat masturbate
2008-02-16 21:28 < geniice> gentlemen the situation is grave
2008-02-16 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> no no, asians = -_-
2008-02-16 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> and Trauco's impreganting stare looks like this: #.#
2008-02-16 21:29 < Gargantua> What is *_* then? blacks?
2008-02-16 21:29 < geniice> Kosovo will shortly declairing indepedance with the result that all our maps will need updateing
2008-02-16 21:29 < Gargantua> No, that'd require some sort of super-lip.
2008-02-16 21:29 < Gargantua> /racism
2008-02-16 21:29 < geniice> in order to prevent this calamitus turn of events I am forced to recomend a pre emptive strike
2008-02-16 21:30 < Lycurgus> round-eye: 0.0, big round-eye: O_O, east-asian: -.-, stoner: *.*
2008-02-16 21:30 < Buffalosoldier92> ...
2008-02-16 21:30 * Buffalosoldier92 is black...
2008-02-16 21:30 * Buffalosoldier92 leaves it alone
2008-02-16 21:30 < quanticle> Right, but what do superman eyes look liek?
2008-02-16 21:30 < Lycurgus> flat or matte?
2008-02-16 21:31 < quanticle> Or glossy?
2008-02-16 21:31 < Buffalosoldier92> rofl
2008-02-16 21:31 * Ceiling_Cat stares @ quanticle -- #.#
2008-02-16 21:32 < ggreer`> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmgfF1zghg
2008-02-16 21:32 < Gargantua> Buffalosoldier92, there's no way in hell you're black.
2008-02-16 21:32 < Buffalosoldier92> African-American
2008-02-16 21:32 < Gargantua> We all know black people don't exist on the internet.
2008-02-16 21:32 < Gargantua> Except maybe youtube.
2008-02-16 21:32 < Buffalosoldier92> I'm like urkel
2008-02-16 21:32 < Gargantua> And it still isn't their natural habitat.
2008-02-16 21:32 < Gargantua> Buffalosoldier92, pics || gtfo.
2008-02-16 21:33 * Buffalosoldier92 doesn't like showing random pics of himself to random people.
2008-02-16 21:33 < Miranda> me either
2008-02-16 21:33 * Lycurgus suspects BS92 is not teh seksy black.
2008-02-16 21:34 < Buffalosoldier92> <_<
2008-02-16 21:35 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: /me is male. I'm not affected by that
2008-02-16 21:35 < Buffalosoldier92> Hm... according to my friends, the former united states army recruiter at my school is an administrator at wikipedia :/
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> omg
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Brig.-Gen. Peter Atkinson, a top strategic adviser to Gen. Rick
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Hillier, the chief of defence staff, says sites like Facebook are an
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> "invaluable tool" for deployed soldiers to keep in touch with their
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> families. But he warned that seemingly innocuous photos, videos and
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> news reports can be the source for as much as 80 per cent of the
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> intelligence that insurgents routinely gather on operations.
2008-02-16 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> (whoops, sorry for the flood)
2008-02-16 21:36 < ggreer`> gas turbines are so effing cool
2008-02-16 21:36 < Buffalosoldier92> o.0
2008-02-16 21:37 < Buffalosoldier92> So terrorist are using intelligence from facebook?
2008-02-16 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> YouTube and personal Web logs are uncensored and can pose a threat, but Wikipedia is among the most dangerous of the public-access websites, he said. Wikipedia is an online public encyclopedia that allows individuals to submit entries on a wide range of subjects.
2008-02-16 21:37 < Buffalosoldier92> Wow