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2008-02-16 10:18 < slashem> OFF WITH 'IS HEAD!
2008-02-16 10:18 < TheWeasel> and proves beyond reasonable doubt a connection between the Iraqozoid government and the jihad of scary bearded men.
2008-02-16 10:19 < slashem> quick, put in in the wikipedia article
2008-02-16 10:19 < slashem> then we will know it is true
2008-02-16 10:19 < TheWeasel> slashem: Finally, someone who wants to make the article more NPOV.
2008-02-16 10:20 < slashem> NPOV should be called MPOV
2008-02-16 10:24 < TheWeasel> So, talking about Iraq Hussein Osama...
2008-02-16 10:24 < TheWeasel> Oh, nm.
2008-02-16 10:25 < TheWeasel> I've seen "funny" puns on Hillary as well though
2008-02-16 10:34 * White_Cat dips TheWeasel's head into a soapy bucket and uses it to mop the #wikipedia floor...
2008-02-16 10:34 * White_Cat picks TheWeasel up
2008-02-16 10:34 < TheWeasel> gee, thanks.
2008-02-16 10:35 * White_Cat stuffs TheWeasel in a wikiball
2008-02-16 10:35 * TheWeasel is round now
2008-02-16 10:40 < White_Cat> I choose you TheWeasel!
2008-02-16 10:40 < White_Cat> DO what TheWeasels normaly do!
2008-02-16 10:40 < slashem> geez a little obsessed aren't we?
2008-02-16 10:40 * TheWeasel ...er... weasels
2008-02-16 10:40 * White_Cat observes TheWeasel take a nap...
2008-02-16 10:40 < White_Cat> -_-'
2008-02-16 10:41 < TheWeasel> I didn't get the reference at all.
2008-02-16 10:41 < White_Cat> slashem a bit?
2008-02-16 10:41 * White_Cat headbutts slashem
2008-02-16 10:42 * slashem ouch!
2008-02-16 10:42 * slashem buttheads ... oh nvm
2008-02-16 10:42 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-02-16 10:43 < TheWeasel> ello
2008-02-16 10:43 * bumm13 has a cold :<
2008-02-16 10:43 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/Film_Directors
2008-02-16 10:43 < Sfan00> Anyone care to de redlink it?
2008-02-16 10:43 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/Film_List also needs looking into
2008-02-16 10:45 * TheWeasel makes mental note to do laundry more often
2008-02-16 10:45 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-16 10:47 < White_Cat> Sfan00 I would if I could but its just no good
2008-02-16 10:47 < NotACow> DEADLINK
2008-02-16 10:47 < White_Cat> someone would come and mass redlirectify
2008-02-16 10:47 < White_Cat> no point in creating articles
2008-02-16 10:47 < Sfan00> White_Cat: I am creating it gauge coverage
2008-02-16 10:47 < NotACow> this is a large part of why so many people have left wikipedia
2008-02-16 10:47 < Sfan00> You will note it's not in Article space
2008-02-16 10:48 < NotACow> it's really frustrating to work on an article only to have some idiot come along and reduce it to a stub, redirect it, or delete it entirely
2008-02-16 10:48 < Sfan00> Both links above should work
2008-02-16 10:48 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-16 10:48 < White_Cat> NotACow wow we actualy agree on something :)
2008-02-16 10:48 < TheWeasel> "this is an encyclopedia, hence it should only comprise the things I like."
2008-02-16 10:48 < White_Cat> TheWeasel no its not that
2008-02-16 10:49 < NotACow> there is no respect for other people's effort
2008-02-16 10:49 < White_Cat> "this is an encyclopedia, hence it should only comprise the things I think are worth."
2008-02-16 10:49 < White_Cat> in otherwords say a topic like history gets very detailed coverage and that bothers someone
2008-02-16 10:49 < White_Cat> and they mass remove otherwise fine articles
2008-02-16 10:49 < TheWeasel> That is the official version
2008-02-16 10:49 < TheWeasel> in reality they oppose it because they dislike the category.
2008-02-16 10:49 < White_Cat> TheWeasel yes
2008-02-16 10:50 < White_Cat> or out of anger too
2008-02-16 10:50 < Sfan00> White_cat: That happens rarely
2008-02-16 10:50 < White_Cat> someone deletes one of their articles and they go on a rampage
2008-02-16 10:50 < Sfan00> FA articles don't get gutted
2008-02-16 10:50 < White_Cat> a quest
2008-02-16 10:50 < White_Cat> Sfan00 sure they do
2008-02-16 10:50 < Aqwis> Sfan00, pokemon?
2008-02-16 10:50 < White_Cat> such was the case of Bulbasaur
2008-02-16 10:50 < White_Cat> a former featured article
2008-02-16 10:50 < Sfan00> Well to an extent removing poke cruft is ok
2008-02-16 10:50 < Aqwis> Sfan00, see
2008-02-16 10:50 < Sfan00> but yes I see what you mean
2008-02-16 10:50 < Aqwis> you're part of the problem
2008-02-16 10:51 < White_Cat> Sfan00 I really think 'cruft' of any kind is welcome
2008-02-16 10:51 < White_Cat> because one persons cruft is anothers tresure
2008-02-16 10:51 < Sfan00> Aqwis: At least I'm not someone that put's in You Tube or HOTU links senselessly ;)
2008-02-16 10:51 < White_Cat> our most visited article is Naruto
2008-02-16 10:51 < NotACow> being dead is a real pain in the ass
2008-02-16 10:51 < White_Cat> not world war 2
2008-02-16 10:52 < Aqwis> indeed, we should not try to make people read what we want them to read
2008-02-16 10:52 < TheWeasel> Sfan00: Back or forth, senselessness is never due.
2008-02-16 10:52 < Aqwis> i bet those pokemon articles were very popular
2008-02-16 10:52 < White_Cat> Aqwis our most visited articles include pokemon articles
2008-02-16 10:52 < White_Cat> for example list of pokemon episodes
2008-02-16 10:52 < TheWeasel> we're so big that there'll always be enough people dealing with the serious topics.
2008-02-16 10:52 < White_Cat> our list of pokemon articles get no more visitors because you no longer even have info on their types
2008-02-16 10:53 < TheWeasel> (unless they get called an ethnic traitor and get driven away)
2008-02-16 10:53 < White_Cat> TheWeasel actualy I have a different logic
2008-02-16 10:53 < White_Cat> do you really want someone only writing pokemon articles work on 'serious topics'
2008-02-16 10:53 < TheWeasel> No.
2008-02-16 10:53 < White_Cat> say someone who watched every episode of pokemon for the past 12 years to work on shakesepere
2008-02-16 10:53 < TheWeasel> those logics are compatible :-)
2008-02-16 10:54 < TheWeasel> But those people will typically stay away anyway
2008-02-16 10:54 < White_Cat> unless they are not allowed to work on anything else
2008-02-16 10:54 < TheWeasel> because they could hardly care less about Shakespeare
2008-02-16 10:54 < White_Cat> TheWeasel exactly
2008-02-16 10:54 < TheWeasel> heh... so you want to throw the dog a bone?
2008-02-16 10:54 < White_Cat> they can be busy with pomeon
2008-02-16 10:54 < TheWeasel> so it won't eat the sausage?
2008-02-16 10:54 < TheWeasel> that's interesting
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> I'm an inclusionist, mind you.
2008-02-16 10:55 < NotACow> SAUSAGE!
2008-02-16 10:55 < NotACow> i like sausage
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> Kielbasa!
2008-02-16 10:55 < NotACow> POLISH SAUSAGE
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> Wurst!
2008-02-16 10:55 < NotACow> who polishes sausages anyway?
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> Sausage polish!
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> Damn, you beat me to't.
2008-02-16 10:55 < NotACow> EDELWURST?
2008-02-16 10:55 < White_Cat> TheWeasel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmaF06nKTUw&feature=related
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> lol
2008-02-16 10:55 < TheWeasel> whats that?
2008-02-16 10:56 < NotACow> TheWeasel: i dunno
2008-02-16 10:56 * TheWeasel is youtube allergic
2008-02-16 10:56 < TheWeasel> No, I mean the lin
2008-02-16 10:56 < TheWeasel> k
2008-02-16 10:56 < White_Cat> TheWeasel this is a song :)
2008-02-16 10:56 < TheWeasel> Edelwurst is a great new creation.
2008-02-16 10:56 < TheWeasel> as opposed to Schlichtwurst
2008-02-16 10:56 < TheWeasel> i.e. Simplesausage
2008-02-16 10:57 < NotACow> edelweiss would be "noble sausage"
2008-02-16 10:57 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-02-16 10:57 < TheWeasel> correct
2008-02-16 10:57 < TheWeasel> I was looking for a good translation for "edel" in this sense
2008-02-16 10:58 < TheWeasel> maybe "premium"
2008-02-16 10:58 < NotACow> TheWeasel: i knew it meant somehting but could not remeber what
2008-02-16 10:58 < TheWeasel> it's a little white flower from the Alps
2008-02-16 10:58 < NotACow> yes
2008-02-16 10:58 < NotACow> "noble white"
2008-02-16 10:58 < NotACow> edelwurst would be noble sausage
2008-02-16 10:58 < NotACow> sausage made from nobles
2008-02-16 10:58 < NotACow> probably the best use for the damn fools that has ever been suggested
2008-02-16 10:59 < TheWeasel> Edel is used for food as well, but it means something like "extra fine" or "premium"
2008-02-16 10:59 < NotACow> TheWeasel: makes sense
2008-02-16 10:59 < NotACow> "premium sausage"
2008-02-16 11:00 < Lycurgus> the normal literal translation is "noble"
2008-02-16 11:00 < NotACow> i can read german but my vocabulary is missing most words :)
2008-02-16 11:00 < TheWeasel> yea, but in connection with food, it usually means "something of especially fine quality"
2008-02-16 11:01 < bumm13> gourmet?
2008-02-16 11:01 < TheWeasel> yea, good one
2008-02-16 11:01 < bumm13> :)
2008-02-16 11:01 < TheWeasel> although that's used independently
2008-02-16 11:01 < bumm13> hmm
2008-02-16 11:01 < Lycurgus> and in connection with gas it means 'doesn't play well with others'
2008-02-16 11:01 < bumm13> sometimes in English we just say "fine"
2008-02-16 11:02 < TheWeasel> but for example the Edelzwicker is one of the cheapest wines available
2008-02-16 11:02 < TheWeasel> (Alsatian)
2008-02-16 11:02 < bumm13> :x
2008-02-16 11:02 < White_Cat> bumm13 or Jaijobu
2008-02-16 11:02 < White_Cat> err
2008-02-16 11:02 < White_Cat> 'Daijobu'
2008-02-16 11:03 < White_Cat> :P
2008-02-16 11:03 < bumm13> "fine" shows up in one particular German-English dictionary
2008-02-16 11:03 * NovaDog sits
2008-02-16 11:03 < bumm13> (along with other irrelevant entries)
2008-02-16 11:04 < bumm13> another just says "high-quality"
2008-02-16 11:04 < bumm13> so it may just not directly translate
2008-02-16 11:05 < TheWeasel> hah, the case about the promise to transfer ownership of real estate I referred to yesterday is usually called in literature the "Edelmannsfall"
2008-02-16 11:05 < TheWeasel> the Honorable Man Case
2008-02-16 11:05 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-16 11:06 < Mike2> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230220994110
2008-02-16 11:06 < bumm13> if only languages were so easily interchangeable
2008-02-16 11:07 < bumm13> Mike2: that thing is scary looking
2008-02-16 11:07 < CharlotteWebb> moo
2008-02-16 11:07 < TheWeasel> Translation engines wouldn't suck as badly.
2008-02-16 11:08 < DragonFire1024> 5 hours to go :)
2008-02-16 11:08 < White_Cat> http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/370021635847.jpg
2008-02-16 11:08 < White_Cat> ?
2008-02-16 11:08 < DragonFire1024> #wikinews-interviews :)
2008-02-16 11:09 < bumm13> ah
2008-02-16 11:09 < DragonFire1024> Mark Bunker
2008-02-16 11:09 < White_Cat> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370021635847&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT&refitem=230220994110&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%26itu%3DUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4
2008-02-16 11:09 < White_Cat> O+O
2008-02-16 11:11 < OverlordQ> i guess ted williams gets the ladies
2008-02-16 11:11 < Sfan00> Df1024: When's the interview? Soon?
2008-02-16 11:11 < OverlordQ> Who's ya interviewin?
2008-02-16 11:11 < DragonFire1024> 5 hours
2008-02-16 11:11 < DragonFire1024> 21:00 UTC
2008-02-16 11:12 < DragonFire1024> Mark Bunker
2008-02-16 11:13 < Sfan00> Time to get Paxman ;)
2008-02-16 11:13 < TheWeasel> I'm a big fan of Paxo's rude style.
2008-02-16 11:13 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-16 11:15 < DragonFire1024> :)
2008-02-16 11:16 < DragonFire1024> gonna be a lot of people at this interview
2008-02-16 11:16 * TheWeasel waits for football transmission to start
2008-02-16 11:17 < DragonFire1024> OverlordQ: Mark Bunker of anti Scientology site XenuTV
2008-02-16 11:17 < White_Cat> I read that as " <OverlordQ> i guess ted stevens gets the ladies"
2008-02-16 11:17 < White_Cat> I was going to make a tube joke
2008-02-16 11:17 < DragonFire1024> lol
2008-02-16 11:17 < OverlordQ> Heh
2008-02-16 11:19 < TheWeasel> If there are ladies in remand detention at all.
2008-02-16 11:21 < White_Cat> TheWeasel even those wouldnt be ted stevens desperate
2008-02-16 11:22 < White_Cat> is ted stevens still in congress
2008-02-16 11:22 < TheWeasel> Probably.
2008-02-16 11:22 < White_Cat> if so do they ridicule and bully him daily?
2008-02-16 11:22 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-16 11:22 < White_Cat> ah, soo...
2008-02-16 11:22 < White_Cat> serves him right
2008-02-16 11:23 < TheWeasel> The question is whether it serves the citizens of Alaska right
2008-02-16 11:24 < White_Cat> TheWeasel reread that sentence
2008-02-16 11:24 < CharlotteWebb> well enough to name an airport after him
2008-02-16 11:24 < White_Cat> "citizens of Alaska" is compromosied of ted stevens and ted stevens alone
2008-02-16 11:24 < TheWeasel> yea right, thats odd
2008-02-16 11:25 < White_Cat> TheWeasel the airport is compromised of a series of tubes
2008-02-16 11:25 < OverlordQ> pressurized tubes
2008-02-16 11:25 < CharlotteWebb> and don young
2008-02-16 11:25 < OverlordQ> that fly through the air
2008-02-16 11:25 < TheWeasel> Thats good, I hate to have to take the bus to the plane.
2008-02-16 11:25 < White_Cat> overpresurized tubes
2008-02-16 11:25 < TheWeasel> Don Young, the king of pork.
2008-02-16 11:26 < CharlotteWebb> Donald Edwin (Don) Young (born June 9, 1933) has been the sole congressman from Alaska in the United States House of Representatives since 1973.
2008-02-16 11:26 < CharlotteWebb> unbelievable really
2008-02-16 11:26 < White_Cat> 1973 :)
2008-02-16 11:26 < White_Cat> before many of us were born
2008-02-16 11:26 < TheWeasel> his predecessor disappeared.
2008-02-16 11:26 < White_Cat> 2008-1973 = 35
2008-02-16 11:26 < White_Cat> 35 years
2008-02-16 11:26 < TheWeasel> in a plane I think
2008-02-16 11:26 < White_Cat> TheWeasel he got lost in a serries of tubes
2008-02-16 11:27 < TheWeasel> the ninety-third congress...
2008-02-16 11:27 < TheWeasel> those different times
2008-02-16 11:27 < CharlotteWebb> he was flying around trying to find ted's house
2008-02-16 11:27 < White_Cat> CharlotteWebb he did find it
2008-02-16 11:28 < White_Cat> but he was suddenly captured by the tube vortex
2008-02-16 11:28 < White_Cat> traumatised ted stevens sees tubes everywhere now
2008-02-16 11:29 < TheWeasel> Barry Goldwater, Ed Muskie, Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, George McGovern,
2008-02-16 11:29 < TheWeasel> All still serving when Don Young started
2008-02-16 11:30 < Leslie_S> sigh. sure wish i could get a decent job :(
2008-02-16 11:30 < White_Cat> Leslie_S buy yahoo :)
2008-02-16 11:31 < Leslie_S> ...........
2008-02-16 11:31 < Leslie_S> dont be a fucking idiot
2008-02-16 11:31 < White_Cat> ok
2008-02-16 11:31 < TheWeasel> Leslie_S: Now now.
2008-02-16 11:31 < White_Cat> Leslie_S once you graduate you'll have access to apply for higher jobs
2008-02-16 11:31 < parent5446> Could more people please help out at WP:ACID?
2008-02-16 11:31 < White_Cat> you could try working for wikia
2008-02-16 11:32 < CharlotteWebb> my advice is to avoid the gray acid
2008-02-16 11:33 < Sfan00> Huh>
2008-02-16 11:33 < Sfan00> [[League of Gentleman]] Doesn't seem to exist ?
2008-02-16 11:34 < Sfan00> How can it NOT be in Wikipedia?
2008-02-16 11:34 < CharlotteWebb> wouldn't it have to be plural, to constitute a league
2008-02-16 11:34 < Sfan00> Hmm
2008-02-16 11:34 < Sfan00> me tries chaning a letter
2008-02-16 11:35 < Sfan00> Mispelling
2008-02-16 11:35 < Sfan00> Found :)
2008-02-16 11:35 < Leslie_S> White_Cat or so you say.
2008-02-16 11:35 < CharlotteWebb> redirect for the win
2008-02-16 11:35 < TheWeasel> CharlotteWebb: There are some gentlemen that don't like to mingle even in their clubs.
2008-02-16 11:35 < Leslie_S> White_Cat i cant wait that long.
2008-02-16 11:35 < Leslie_S> i just cant deal with my life anymore.
2008-02-16 11:35 < CharlotteWebb> you can't have a 1-person league
2008-02-16 11:35 < White_Cat> Leslie_S you live in a country in ecconomic recession
2008-02-16 11:35 < White_Cat> people with jobs loose them
2008-02-16 11:36 < TheWeasel> Maybe if you have a split personality.
2008-02-16 11:36 < Sfan00> CharlotteWebb: And it was the 1959(/) film I was after anyway not the Tv series
2008-02-16 11:36 < White_Cat> meaning your competition is much much more harder
2008-02-16 11:36 < White_Cat> because unlike you they have experience
2008-02-16 11:36 < Leslie_S> White_Cat thanks for telling me the obvious.
2008-02-16 11:36 < White_Cat> you may have advantage tho
2008-02-16 11:36 < Leslie_S> White_Cat what? anime?
2008-02-16 11:36 < White_Cat> since they have experience they may hire you instead
2008-02-16 11:36 < Leslie_S> .....
2008-02-16 11:36 < White_Cat> because you are 'cheeper'
2008-02-16 11:36 < Leslie_S> I need to make enough money to live.
2008-02-16 11:36 < White_Cat> as they dont have the money to hire experienced people.
2008-02-16 11:37 < Sfan00> CharoltteWebb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/Film_List#Break_5
2008-02-16 11:37 < Sfan00> Assistance in resolving the Redlinks Greatly appreciated :)
2008-02-16 11:37 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-16 11:37 < CharlotteWebb> well before christmas i went to a wal-mart i hadn't been to in over a year. i didn't recognize any of the employees inside the store, but...
2008-02-16 11:37 < White_Cat> Leslie_S you shouldnt feel down
2008-02-16 11:37 < geniice> anyone head of Dashpoalla?
2008-02-16 11:37 < CharlotteWebb> they had all the same cart-pushers
2008-02-16 11:37 < CharlotteWebb> or rounder-uppers or whatever
2008-02-16 11:38 < White_Cat> CharlotteWebb just die
2008-02-16 11:38 * White_Cat kills CharlotteWebb
2008-02-16 11:38 < Sfan00> Somwhere I've got a list of CFF titles if anyone want to stub out articles?
2008-02-16 11:38 < CharlotteWebb> eww spider guts
2008-02-16 11:38 < Sfan00> (Says me who was moaning about poke-cruft :( )
2008-02-16 11:38 < CharlotteWebb> CFF?
2008-02-16 11:38 < White_Cat> Sfan00 heh
2008-02-16 11:39 < White_Cat> Sfan00 its best to wait for the rfar to conclude
2008-02-16 11:39 < Sfan00> RFAR?
2008-02-16 11:39 < White_Cat> because TTN and etall would just mass blank
2008-02-16 11:39 < Sfan00> Which one?
2008-02-16 11:39 < Sfan00> Link please
2008-02-16 11:39 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Episodes_and_characters_2
2008-02-16 11:40 < Sfan00> Ah
2008-02-16 11:40 < Sfan00> Active OK
2008-02-16 11:41 < CharlotteWebb> CFF may refer to: * SBB-CFF-FFS, a railway company * Cambodian Freedom Fighters, a militant rebel group * Compact Font Format, a font technology * Children's Film Foundation * Cystic Fibrosis Foundation
2008-02-16 11:42 < TheWeasel> Cambodian Font Foundation
2008-02-16 11:43 < TheWeasel> or Cystic Film Fighters?
2008-02-16 11:45 < Leslie_S> broke my mouse :(
2008-02-16 11:47 * TheWeasel considers getting dürüm
2008-02-16 11:51 * CharlotteWebb bashes Sfan00's head against yonder window
2008-02-16 11:51 < CharlotteWebb> "CFF titles" what do you mean
2008-02-16 11:59 < DragonFire1024> 4 hours to go ;)
2008-02-16 12:04 < Sebleouf> Hi
2008-02-16 12:04 < DragonFire1024> hello Sebleouf
2008-02-16 12:06 < Sebleouf> How are you ?
2008-02-16 12:06 < Sfan00> CharlotteWebb: CFF= Childerns Film Foundation
2008-02-16 12:06 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-16 12:06 < DragonFire1024> just making final preparations for the interview
2008-02-16 12:07 < CharlotteWebb> hey anybody want to guess what this means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Trucker_%28film%29
2008-02-16 12:08 < CharlotteWebb> oh nevermind, the user's signature is forged
2008-02-16 12:11 < CharlotteWebb> can be deleted i guess. User:JoshuaGrant4 has a lot of... strange... edits in very broken english
2008-02-16 12:13 < Sfan00> Df1024 : remember TO ask some tough ones as well :)
2008-02-16 12:13 < AppleBoy> oh god, it's Sfan00 >.<
2008-02-16 12:13 < Sfan00> (i.e try to challange the universal anti )
2008-02-16 12:14 < Sfan00> AppleBoy
2008-02-16 12:14 < DragonFire1024> Sfan00: if it gets that far...there are almost 80 pre asked questions
2008-02-16 12:14 < Sfan00> : My noterity proceeds me
2008-02-16 12:14 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-16 12:14 < Sfan00> AppleBoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/Film_List#Break_5 Able to help de redlink it?
2008-02-16 12:15 < AppleBoy> mine does too, trigger happy chanop and destructor of delphine
2008-02-16 12:16 < AppleBoy> well, destructor isn't the right word, but something along those lines
2008-02-16 12:16 * Sfan00 tries not to think about marshmallows ;)
2008-02-16 12:19 < CharlotteWebb> where did you get the list
2008-02-16 12:20 < CharlotteWebb> it seems to have a lot of typos (whereas the article already exists at the proper title)
2008-02-16 12:20 < CharlotteWebb> careful not to create duplicates
2008-02-16 12:44 < Martinp23> [[test]]
2008-02-16 12:46 < bumm13> *** TEST OK ***
2008-02-16 12:47 < Martinp23> :)
2008-02-16 12:48 * Martinp23 was seeing if unilinky was active here
2008-02-16 13:03 < DragonFire1024> 3 hours to go #wikinews-interviews
2008-02-16 13:26 < White_Cat> Sfan00
2008-02-16 13:26 < White_Cat> you around?
2008-02-16 13:26 < Sfan00> Yeah
2008-02-16 13:26 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/CFF_Titles#Feature_or_Featurettes
2008-02-16 13:27 < Sfan00> I've found some neither IMDB or TV Cream know about ;)
2008-02-16 13:27 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Episodes_and_characters_2/Evidence/by_White_Cat#Real_identity_of_Jack_Merridew:_Could_it_be_Davenbelle.2FMoby_Dick
2008-02-16 13:27 < White_Cat> mind taking a look?
2008-02-16 13:29 < geniice> 14 people dead. 4 sentances 3 lines
2008-02-16 13:29 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayagarh_district#Maoist_attacks
2008-02-16 13:41 < TheWeasel> "Villahermosa is a modern city rich in natural resources, both for agriculture and farming."
2008-02-16 13:42 < TheWeasel> it gets even odder.
2008-02-16 13:42 < TheWeasel> not only does fishing seem to be a part of agriculture
2008-02-16 13:42 < TheWeasel> but agriculture and farming also seem to be apart from each other
2008-02-16 13:43 < TheWeasel> today is really shattering my image of agriculture
2008-02-16 13:44 < torch> tearing your perception of reality apart and making you question the very concept of existence?
2008-02-16 13:44 < torch> or not yet?
2008-02-16 13:44 < TheWeasel> at least as it refers to agriculture
2008-02-16 13:45 < TheWeasel> I repeat that agrum is the field in Latin
2008-02-16 13:45 < Sfan00> White_Cat; I don't have enough policy expereince
2008-02-16 13:45 < Sfan00> Unless you are aasking someone else
2008-02-16 13:45 < White_Cat> I am asking if you think these are the same people
2008-02-16 13:46 < CharlotteWebb> i thought they'd use the word "aquaculture" or maybe that's just a neologism
2008-02-16 13:46 < TheWeasel> which would both imply farming and include fishing
2008-02-16 13:46 < TheWeasel> yea, I've seen it used not even in the aquaculture sense
2008-02-16 13:46 < TheWeasel> but as in deep sea fishing
2008-02-16 13:46 < TheWeasel> not as in fish husbandry which would have been reasonable
2008-02-16 13:47 < Sfan00> white_Cat: Sorry , unable to comment,
2008-02-16 13:47 < CharlotteWebb> so what would be an example of non-agriculture farming o.O
2008-02-16 13:47 < Sfan00> I don't feel I am qualfied enough to do so
2008-02-16 13:47 < White_Cat> the comment you requested is unavalible, the mobile user may be closed or out of rach
2008-02-16 13:47 < TheWeasel> CharlotteWebb: Pot plants
2008-02-16 13:47 < TheWeasel> :-P
2008-02-16 13:47 < White_Cat> *reach
2008-02-16 13:48 < CharlotteWebb> greenhouses (!)
2008-02-16 13:48 < TheWeasel> I don't think they meant "both" in this article
2008-02-16 13:48 < TheWeasel> greenhice... that might be non-farming agriculture, actually
2008-02-16 13:48 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-16 13:49 * TheWeasel eats Dutch style fries/chips
2008-02-16 13:49 < CharlotteWebb> maybe a stupid question but did you mean "cannabis" or simply "a plant in a pot"
2008-02-16 13:49 < TheWeasel> b)
2008-02-16 13:49 < TheWeasel> cannabis can be grown in fields
2008-02-16 13:49 < TheWeasel> Some people hide their cannabis plants in fields during the summer
2008-02-16 13:50 < CharlotteWebb> in somebody else's field if they have any sense
2008-02-16 13:50 < TheWeasel> of course
2008-02-16 13:50 < TheWeasel> most pot users don't have fields.
2008-02-16 13:51 < TheWeasel> it's not very prevalent on the countryside :-D
2008-02-16 13:51 < CharlotteWebb> {{fact}}
2008-02-16 13:51 < TheWeasel> OR... they drink copiously instead.
2008-02-16 13:51 < CharlotteWebb> lot of meth labs
2008-02-16 13:52 < TheWeasel> hah...
2008-02-16 13:54 * TheWeasel reads [[Ilfracombe]] of all things
2008-02-16 13:55 < White_Cat> most pot users sell pots to gardeners
2008-02-16 13:55 < White_Cat> different kind of pot tho
2008-02-16 13:55 * CharlotteWebb has outdone herself again on the mailing list
2008-02-16 13:55 * White_Cat puts TheWeasel into a pot
2008-02-16 13:56 * TheWeasel attempts to smoke a pan
2008-02-16 13:57 < CharlotteWebb> the english wikipedia's "notability" guideline is actually the holy hand grenade of antioch
2008-02-16 13:58 < TheWeasel> the funny thing is that it's all but worthless in individual cases.
2008-02-16 13:58 < White_Cat> it is actualy going down the drain CharlotteWebb
2008-02-16 13:59 < TheWeasel> and still it's fetishized.
2008-02-16 13:59 < White_Cat> more and more people are fed up with how it is being enforced
2008-02-16 13:59 < TheWeasel> and everyone calls the shot as they see it anyway.
2008-02-16 13:59 < TheWeasel> it is unable to be enforced, imho.
2008-02-16 13:59 < TheWeasel> completely unfit to serve as a guideline
2008-02-16 13:59 < CharlotteWebb> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2008-February/090076.html
2008-02-16 14:00 < TheWeasel> and they keep producing more stuff, and it keeps getting worse
2008-02-16 14:00 < TheWeasel> if they had any clue about lawmaking, they might give people easier guidelines
2008-02-16 14:01 < Aqwis> easier guidelines = "vote keep on articles you like and delete on articles you dislike"
2008-02-16 14:01 < TheWeasel> Note that I'm not part of the choir of pessimist.
2008-02-16 14:02 < Aqwis> no different from the current situation, but at least there would be less drama :>
2008-02-16 14:02 < TheWeasel> Aqwis: That would essentially mean legislating existing reality
2008-02-16 14:02 < TheWeasel> Right.
2008-02-16 14:02 < CharlotteWebb> TheWeasel, one might conclude that actual lawmakers don't have a clue about lawmaking either
2008-02-16 14:02 < TheWeasel> lawmakers have traditions that are informed from lawmaking experience
2008-02-16 14:02 < TheWeasel> Wikipedia follows a pretty random path in that respect
2008-02-16 14:03 < TheWeasel> Mind you, there are terrible laws
2008-02-16 14:03 < TheWeasel> especially if you want to make a symbolic point or pander to the electorate
2008-02-16 14:04 < White_Cat> TheWeasel I think wording or the flow of the guideline is fine
2008-02-16 14:04 < White_Cat> but people are enforcing the word of it not the spirit
2008-02-16 14:04 < TheWeasel> monstrosities like three-strikes laws or in German law calling an animal "not property" but then declaring that "regulations about property apply"
2008-02-16 14:04 < White_Cat> TheWeasel you are my property :)
2008-02-16 14:04 * White_Cat seels TheWeasel on ebay
2008-02-16 14:05 < TheWeasel> you're an animal yourself.
2008-02-16 14:05 < TheWeasel> Leaving it up to people to interpret a spirit praeter legem is very dangerous.
2008-02-16 14:05 < White_Cat> TheWeasel rawr
2008-02-16 14:05 < White_Cat> TheWeasel oh not really
2008-02-16 14:05 < TheWeasel> Unavoidable in some cases but quite dangerous.
2008-02-16 14:05 < White_Cat> WP:N is developed against garbage
2008-02-16 14:05 < White_Cat> garbage such as home made videos and etc
2008-02-16 14:05 < White_Cat> bands that never sold a single album
2008-02-16 14:05 < TheWeasel> I.e. necessary to fill gaps
2008-02-16 14:05 < TheWeasel> and such
2008-02-16 14:06 < White_Cat> people are using it on shows that have been shown internationaly
2008-02-16 14:06 < TheWeasel> Well, the encyclopedic-ness as a guideline is hardly serving us either
2008-02-16 14:06 < TheWeasel> WP:N is just the counterpart of that
2008-02-16 14:13 < Alkivar> getting really fucking sick of verizon dsl service
2008-02-16 14:13 < CharlotteWebb> oh hi. do people still think i'm you?
2008-02-16 14:13 < Alkivar> not a clue
2008-02-16 14:14 < Alkivar> and you spelled that wrong... its "oh hai!"
2008-02-16 14:14 < CharlotteWebb> is that proof that i'm not :p
2008-02-16 14:14 < Alkivar> because it be caturday
2008-02-16 14:16 < TheWeasel> I HAZ HUNGUR
2008-02-16 14:16 < TheWeasel> nyam nyam.
2008-02-16 14:16 < TheWeasel> I HAZ NO MOAR HUNGUR
2008-02-16 14:16 < zvook> look at alkivar and CharlotteWebb turning up at exaaactly the same time
2008-02-16 14:16 < TheWeasel> oh goodness me
2008-02-16 14:16 < TheWeasel> Volksmusik on television.
2008-02-16 14:17 < TheWeasel> I thought that was only allowed in Gitmo.
2008-02-16 14:17 < zvook> bavarian people in lederhosen?
2008-02-16 14:18 < TheWeasel> I'm not entirely sure, I'm just hearing it in the back.
2008-02-16 14:18 < TheWeasel> But one has to be prepared for the worst.
2008-02-16 14:18 < TheWeasel> and the Wurst.
2008-02-16 14:18 < TheWeasel> Straße der Lieder >.<
2008-02-16 14:18 < TheWeasel> Around Lake Constance
2008-02-16 14:18 < zvook> lolz
2008-02-16 14:19 < Alkivar> I can haz decent ISP?
2008-02-16 14:19 < Alkivar> so as if veri$on wasnt bad enough
2008-02-16 14:19 < Alkivar> now its being passed to fairpoint
2008-02-16 14:20 < Alkivar> who has an even worse reputation for service quality
2008-02-16 14:20 < TheWeasel> AH, people getting drunk on tv.
2008-02-16 14:21 < torch> what
2008-02-16 14:21 < torch> now we're turning Z into $?
2008-02-16 14:21 < TheWeasel> that
2008-02-16 14:22 < TheWeasel> We can also turn L into £
2008-02-16 14:22 < Alkivar> anyone want to see this sundays Best Buy and Circuit City ads before they go public?
2008-02-16 14:22 < TheWeasel> i.e. HI££ARY
2008-02-16 14:23 < CharlotteWebb> or Oßama
2008-02-16 14:24 < TheWeasel> ROMN€Y
2008-02-16 14:24 < Alkivar> yes but thats not a currency symbol
2008-02-16 14:24 < Alkivar> Obama I mean
2008-02-16 14:24 < TheWeasel> But it does create a proper pun, considering that ß = s
2008-02-16 14:24 < Alkivar> yes it does
2008-02-16 14:25 < Alkivar> actually isnt that ss
2008-02-16 14:25 < CharlotteWebb> wow i thought i was being too obscure
2008-02-16 14:25 < Alkivar> not just s
2008-02-16 14:25 < TheWeasel> it is, but English only knows that sound for s
2008-02-16 14:25 < TheWeasel> the other German sound is assigned to z
2008-02-16 14:25 < TheWeasel> in English
2008-02-16 14:25 < TheWeasel> Strange, Grimm's Wörterbuch only knows "Haderlumpe", not "Haderlump"
2008-02-16 14:26 < CharlotteWebb> of course somebody is taking notes on me right now
2008-02-16 14:26 < CharlotteWebb> "obscene trolling, knows german"
2008-02-16 14:27 < TheWeasel> Knowing German already makes one a Nazi, as everyone knows.
2008-02-16 14:27 < Lycurgus> duh
2008-02-16 14:28 * TheWeasel had to keep foreign friends from showing the Nazi salute to various authorities more than once
2008-02-16 14:28 < TheWeasel> because they thought it was a common greeting
2008-02-16 14:28 < zvook> the hell
2008-02-16 14:28 < zvook> your friends are pretty strange
2008-02-16 14:28 < Lycurgus> I think you can say "Hitlegruss" here, you're among friends.
2008-02-16 14:29 < zvook> or native american
2008-02-16 14:29 < TheWeasel> heh
2008-02-16 14:30 < TheWeasel> well some meant it semi-humorously
2008-02-16 14:30 < TheWeasel> completely unaware of how serious people take it here
2008-02-16 14:30 < TheWeasel> AAH
2008-02-16 14:31 < Lycurgus> r
2008-02-16 14:31 * TheWeasel feels a strong urge to knock on the ceiling
2008-02-16 14:31 < CharlotteWebb> where's here, roughly
2008-02-16 14:32 < TheWeasel> Berlin
2008-02-16 14:32 < CharlotteWebb> say no more
2008-02-16 14:32 < TheWeasel> Know what I mean?
2008-02-16 14:32 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-16 14:32 < TheWeasel> Wicked ay!
2008-02-16 14:33 * TheWeasel will brb
2008-02-16 14:34 < CharlotteWebb> yes, germany has been politically bending over backward for quite a while
2008-02-16 14:35 < TheWeasel> we tend to be more comfortable that way.
2008-02-16 14:35 < White_Cat> CharlotteWebb umm
2008-02-16 14:36 < TheWeasel> it's good to lead by example that way.
2008-02-16 14:36 < White_Cat> buring minority residances seems to be the new trend in germany
2008-02-16 14:36 < TheWeasel> Well... we don't know yet
2008-02-16 14:37 < TheWeasel> Erdogan has made himself very unpopular by coming here and basically determining domestic policy.
2008-02-16 14:37 < CharlotteWebb> well in america, we can joke about things like that rather than trying to hard to forget about them
2008-02-16 14:37 < TheWeasel> (the Cologne visit)
2008-02-16 14:37 < TheWeasel> We don't forget about them as well
2008-02-16 14:37 < CharlotteWebb> of course once everybody forgets, it will happen again
2008-02-16 14:37 < TheWeasel> we remember them to the point of self-abasement.
2008-02-16 14:38 < TheWeasel> *at all
2008-02-16 14:38 < TheWeasel> (as is proper)
2008-02-16 14:38 < trappist> how do I create page specific to my user? like, User:Trappist/SomePage
2008-02-16 14:38 < CharlotteWebb> i'm not saying the good old usa doesn't have self-abasing chapters in its history
2008-02-16 14:39 < Taza> Wheeeeeeeee for redirecting that someone is going to revert.
2008-02-16 14:39 < TheWeasel> other people could use half the humility with regard to their country's history that we have
2008-02-16 14:39 < CharlotteWebb> but they do tend to be whitewashed or omitted in public schools
2008-02-16 14:39 < Taza> ... which means I'll just have to do it again.
2008-02-16 14:39 < TheWeasel> Right
2008-02-16 14:39 < Taza> Redirected {{crap}} to {{cleanup-rewrite}}
2008-02-16 14:40 < CharlotteWebb> except for slavery, that's the only "big deal" we acknowledge
2008-02-16 14:40 < Taza> CharlotteWebb: USA?
2008-02-16 14:40 < TheWeasel> for example the overgloss of Stalin's crimes in the Russian psyche is not understandable from this perspective
2008-02-16 14:40 < TheWeasel> AAH!
2008-02-16 14:40 * TheWeasel dies by way of bad music
2008-02-16 14:40 < CharlotteWebb> sí
2008-02-16 14:41 < Taza> USA has eugenics, brutal treatment of mental patients, kkk and the treatment of gays.
2008-02-16 14:41 < mavhc> and all that crappy tv
2008-02-16 14:41 < TheWeasel> Brutal treatment of mental patients existed in the 1980s in Europe.
2008-02-16 14:41 < Taza> And their recent politics
2008-02-16 14:41 < CharlotteWebb> and a hundred other things none of us ever focus on
2008-02-16 14:41 < TheWeasel> an aunt of mine was a lawyer dealing with getting people institutionalized
2008-02-16 14:41 < Taza> Hey, we fought alongside the nazis.
2008-02-16 14:42 < TheWeasel> and there was a *reason* that was hard to do
2008-02-16 14:42 < TheWeasel> because it was impossible to lead a dignified life there
2008-02-16 14:42 < Taza> ... and actually, if I had to make the decision myself, I'd sure as heck side with the nazis again.
2008-02-16 14:42 < Taza> The leaders might have sided with the nazis, but I support their decision 100% to this day.
2008-02-16 14:42 < TheWeasel> What country?
2008-02-16 14:42 < Taza> Finland
2008-02-16 14:42 < TheWeasel> oh
2008-02-16 14:43 < TheWeasel> well, go on, choose the things that you accuse the US of.
2008-02-16 14:43 < Taza> Why bother?
2008-02-16 14:43 < TheWeasel> Germany set a hallmark for Eugenics, brutal treatment of mental patients and minorities
2008-02-16 14:43 < Taza> I mean, the latest administration is awful, but otherwise US has been pretty much on par for the course.
2008-02-16 14:43 < Taza> No better or worse than the rest of us.
2008-02-16 14:44 < TheWeasel> Depends on who you include in the rest.
2008-02-16 14:44 < Taza> The rest of the world.
2008-02-16 14:44 < Taza> There is NO part of the world totally clean.
2008-02-16 14:44 < TheWeasel> incommensurable in my view.
2008-02-16 14:44 < Taza> And 'sides.
2008-02-16 14:44 < TheWeasel> impossible to compare
2008-02-16 14:44 < Taza> It's not OUR freedom the current USA is threatening
2008-02-16 14:45 < Taza> It's the freedom of their own people they're mostly after
2008-02-16 14:45 < TheWeasel> "choosing" the Nazis and criticizing US politics are far apart.
2008-02-16 14:45 < CharlotteWebb> yes, the bill of rights becomes more of an elaborate inside joke every year
2008-02-16 14:46 < TheWeasel> Yea, Jefferson had so called pre-9/11 thoughts.
2008-02-16 14:46 < mavhc> I for one welcome our untarnished antarctic overlords
2008-02-16 14:46 < CharlotteWebb> the last frontier, tally ho
2008-02-16 14:46 < Alkivar> lets face it... no politician handles anything right for the public... merely what works for them to keep their ass in power
2008-02-16 14:46 < CharlotteWebb> thank you
2008-02-16 14:46 < Alkivar> which is a slap in the face to the founders of our country
2008-02-16 14:47 < Taza> TheWeasel: Choosing the nazis WAS the right choice, from a political, moral and military viewpoint.
2008-02-16 14:47 < TheWeasel> I think that's bit of a stretch.
2008-02-16 14:47 < Taza> Nope.
2008-02-16 14:47 < Taza> Not at all.
2008-02-16 14:47 < TheWeasel> Choosing the Nazis can never be a moral decision.
2008-02-16 14:47 < Taza> See the situation in which Finland was.
2008-02-16 14:47 < TheWeasel> Not even over the Soviets.
2008-02-16 14:47 < Alkivar> what we need to do is fire all of washington... and start over
2008-02-16 14:47 < TheWeasel> Revolutions don't typically work so well.
2008-02-16 14:47 < Taza> TheWeasel: Soviet enslavement versus fighting alongside the nazis?
2008-02-16 14:48 < Taza> Take your pick, but I know mine.
2008-02-16 14:48 < TheWeasel> Yes.
2008-02-16 14:48 < CharlotteWebb> yeah, because you ultimately end up with something worse than the status quo
2008-02-16 14:48 < Alkivar> look as much as Hitler was psycho about jews... he was the right decision for germany at the time
2008-02-16 14:48 < Alkivar> he brought them out of the worst economic depression they'd ever faced
2008-02-16 14:48 < TheWeasel> o.o
2008-02-16 14:48 < TheWeasel> how about no
2008-02-16 14:48 < Alkivar> he was running the country well
2008-02-16 14:48 < Taza> Yeah, but he should have been shot right after that.
2008-02-16 14:48 < TheWeasel> well, but only by preparing the war
2008-02-16 14:48 < Alkivar> it was his personal beliefs that caused the problems with germany
2008-02-16 14:48 < TheWeasel> No he wasn't.
2008-02-16 14:49 < Alkivar> if he could have kept his personal beliefs out of his role as leader... we wouldnt have had WW2
2008-02-16 14:49 < Taza> Alkivar: It sure didn't help half of Germany was bitter over WW1.
2008-02-16 14:49 < Alkivar> i'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination hitler was a good person for what he did... dont get me wrong here
2008-02-16 14:49 < TheWeasel> The WHOLE economic recovery Germany went through was only possible because Hitler prepared a war
2008-02-16 14:50 < TheWeasel> Germany was bankrupt and could only get more money through the resources of the occupied countries
2008-02-16 14:50 < TheWeasel> it was one of the objectively worst economic policies ever tried here.
2008-02-16 14:50 < Alkivar> yeah so they invade poland? the country that was even worse off than germany at the time?
2008-02-16 14:50 < Alkivar> I dont fucking think so
2008-02-16 14:50 < TheWeasel> Poland was needed to get to Russia, obviously.
2008-02-16 14:51 < Taza> And Russia was about as bad as Germany.
2008-02-16 14:51 < Taza> Only, it would have been even worse for the Finns.
2008-02-16 14:51 < TheWeasel> Depends on what sort of Fin.
2008-02-16 14:51 < TheWeasel> For WASPs, maybe.
2008-02-16 14:51 < TheWeasel> unintellectual WASPs
2008-02-16 14:52 < Taza> *Sigh*
2008-02-16 14:52 < TheWeasel> or people with a Nordicness complex
2008-02-16 14:52 < Taza> 'kay
2008-02-16 14:52 < Taza> That's going over to personal attack.
2008-02-16 14:52 < TheWeasel> not really
2008-02-16 14:52 < CharlotteWebb> you make it sound like a mental disorder :)
2008-02-16 14:52 < TheWeasel> I'm not attacking you or anyone
2008-02-16 14:52 < Taza> Yes you are.
2008-02-16 14:52 < TheWeasel> no
2008-02-16 14:53 < CharlotteWebb> "complexion" he meant i think
2008-02-16 14:53 < TheWeasel> no
2008-02-16 14:53 < TheWeasel> complex as in psychological
2008-02-16 14:53 < Lycurgus> hmmm, 'untarnished Antartic overlords'. Has a ring to it doesn't it?
2008-02-16 14:53 < TheWeasel> people who think they're superior cause they're blonde
2008-02-16 14:53 < TheWeasel> which would have been a minority
2008-02-16 14:53 < Taza> God.
2008-02-16 14:54 < Taza> What a perfect case of proof for John Gabriel's theory - GIFT in specific.
2008-02-16 14:54 < CharlotteWebb> i wonder how different history would have been with a blonde hitler
2008-02-16 14:54 < TheWeasel> the only excuse anyone could have for supporting Adolf is that the extent of his crimes was not readily apparent yet
2008-02-16 14:55 < TheWeasel> Not much, I guess.
2008-02-16 14:55 < Taza> I wouldn't need an excuse.
2008-02-16 14:55 < TheWeasel> I can see that