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2008-02-14 13:26 < Demi> of course
2008-02-14 13:26 < Gracenotes> an integral part of this wholesome theory
2008-02-14 13:26 < ut2004player> so if stars dont move then it will have same frequency
2008-02-14 13:26 < Demi> obviously the spheres sandwich other spheres, and so on and so forth
2008-02-14 13:27 < ut2004player> but stars move at different speeds and distances so the displacement of color of light or frequency shows how much faster one is than the other.
2008-02-14 13:27 < NotASpy> Physics, especially quantum theory and stuff which revolves around quantum mechanics isn't stuff that can be easily explained, especially on IRC. I'd strongly suggest some of the really decent books about quantum mechanics for lay people if you're remotely interested, it's such a bizarre and fascinating subject.
2008-02-14 13:27 < Gracenotes> planets move in circles traced by circles on circles. Perfect circles, by the way, none of that "ellipse" nonsense
2008-02-14 13:27 < ml4macdo> ut2004player: that's exactly right
2008-02-14 13:27 < ut2004player> YAY!
2008-02-14 13:27 < ut2004player> i pass my physics class
2008-02-14 13:27 < ml4macdo> :)
2008-02-14 13:27 < ut2004player> :)
2008-02-14 13:28 < ut2004player> thanks alot m14macdo!
2008-02-14 13:28 < ml4macdo> no problem
2008-02-14 13:28 * ut2004player hugs and gives cookies to him :p
2008-02-14 13:28 < ut2004player> ok guys you can talk about whatever you wish now -_-
2008-02-14 13:29 < Demi> ut2004player - i really would recommend the Bryson book
2008-02-14 13:29 < ut2004player> Bryson?
2008-02-14 13:29 < Demi> A Short History of Nearly Everything
2008-02-14 13:29 < Demi> by Bill Bryson
2008-02-14 13:29 < Scarian> Bill Bryson is a good writer.
2008-02-14 13:29 < ut2004player> can you give me ISBN number please?
2008-02-14 13:29 < Demi> :(
2008-02-14 13:29 < ut2004player> lol
2008-02-14 13:29 < Gracenotes> meh, I should really make my IRC client automatically response to PINGs
2008-02-14 13:29 < Gracenotes> it gets annoying to type them out
2008-02-14 13:30 < ut2004player> fine i will look on amazon
2008-02-14 13:30 < Gracenotes> I should also fix the NICK bug... meh...
2008-02-14 13:30 < Scarian> Gracenotes: What's your client?
2008-02-14 13:30 < Demi> Nick Bug is one of my favorite actor/producers
2008-02-14 13:30 < Gracenotes> I wrote it
2008-02-14 13:30 < Gracenotes> because I can't use anything else at school
2008-02-14 13:30 < Scarian> Ah I see.
2008-02-14 13:31 < Demi> Wait, I actually meant Nick Berg. But now I remember, he was the beheaded guy, and I was actually thinking of Peter Berg.
2008-02-14 13:31 < Gracenotes> port 6667 firewalled rules out java.freenode.net; all CGI:IRCs I can find are blocked; .exe running is firewalled; booting from external means I can't connect to internet; etc.
2008-02-14 13:32 < Scarian> Gracenotes: And where did you learn to write progs?
2008-02-14 13:32 < Gracenotes> Scarian: well, I know the IRC protocol
2008-02-14 13:32 < Gracenotes> this psuedo-client sends me "PING :simmons.freenode.net", and I type back "PONG :simmons.freenode.net"
2008-02-14 13:32 < PriceChild> Gracenotes, mibbit?
2008-02-14 13:32 < Gracenotes> it used to be that I had to type out PRIVMSG target :message
2008-02-14 13:33 < Gracenotes> now, at least, I have views :)
2008-02-14 13:33 < Gracenotes> PriceChild: hm, haven't heard of it
2008-02-14 13:33 < Gracenotes> *googles*
2008-02-14 13:33 < Gracenotes> does it use polling?
2008-02-14 13:35 * Floor_Feline waves
2008-02-14 13:35 < Floor_Feline> hm, looks like this works
2008-02-14 13:35 < Floor_Feline> thanks, PriceChild :)
2008-02-14 13:35 < Floor_Feline> ooh, autocompletion, even
2008-02-14 13:36 < PriceChild> Floor_Feline, its good isn't it :D
2008-02-14 13:37 < Floor_Feline> much better than something I threw together in 3 hours
2008-02-14 13:37 < Floor_Feline> :)
2008-02-14 13:37 < PriceChild> Floor_Feline, be aware your "real" hostname is displayed as your real name.
2008-02-14 13:37 < Floor_Feline> hm, really
2008-02-14 13:37 < PriceChild> Sorry I forgot to mention that first.
2008-02-14 13:37 * Floor_Feline whoises himself
2008-02-14 13:37 < Floor_Feline> ah, I see
2008-02-14 13:37 < Floor_Feline> that's fine
2008-02-14 13:38 < PriceChild> mibbit.com does warn about it when you sign in.
2008-02-14 13:38 < Floor_Feline> it's a school IP address anyway
2008-02-14 13:38 < Floor_Feline> yeah, it said it wasn't an anonymizer
2008-02-14 13:38 < Floor_Feline> thank you, again :)
2008-02-14 13:41 < OverlordQ> awwww
2008-02-14 13:41 < OverlordQ> STAR TREK originally scheduled for release on 12/25/2008 will now be released on May 8, 2009.
2008-02-14 13:41 < The359> lame
2008-02-14 13:41 < Aqwis> will suck anyway kek
2008-02-14 13:42 < Aqwis> bad actors :|
2008-02-14 13:42 < The359> Bad actors?
2008-02-14 13:42 < NotACow> SPLAT
2008-02-14 13:42 < The359> Simon Pegg is a bad actor?
2008-02-14 13:42 < Gracenotes> hey
2008-02-14 13:42 < OverlordQ> coem on simon pegg as scotty lol!
2008-02-14 13:42 < Gracenotes> now you know I feel about Effective Java :|
2008-02-14 13:43 < Gracenotes> I wonder if it's come out yet, or been postponed again
2008-02-14 13:43 < Demi> i guess you're still stuck with ineffective java
2008-02-14 13:43 < OverlordQ> Agahgah oh crap, Winona Ryder as spocks mom
2008-02-14 13:43 < The359> yeah, not sure wtf that is about, OverlordQ
2008-02-14 13:43 < Gracenotes> Demi: lol. Actually, it's the second version I'm waiting for
2008-02-14 13:44 < The359> wtf
2008-02-14 13:44 < The359> Christopher Pike is in the film too now?
2008-02-14 13:45 < The359> and Kirk has a brother?
2008-02-14 13:45 < Demi> you can't really have Star Trek Babies without Pike
2008-02-14 13:46 < suppiluliuma> kirk had a brother in the tv show
2008-02-14 13:46 * The359 doesn't recall that
2008-02-14 13:46 < suppiluliuma> yep
2008-02-14 13:46 < Demi> yes, "Tiberius J. Kirk"
2008-02-14 13:46 < suppiluliuma> remember the episode when he finds his son peter
2008-02-14 13:46 < OverlordQ> it's sad
2008-02-14 13:46 < Demi> he had a goatee, as i recall
2008-02-14 13:47 < suppiluliuma> samuel kirk i think is his name
2008-02-14 13:47 < OverlordQ> the actor playing Kirk, is older then the actor playing Kirk's dad
2008-02-14 13:47 < suppiluliuma> demi don't make shit up
2008-02-14 13:47 < slashem> there seems to be an obsession with goatees here
2008-02-14 13:47 < Demi> suppiluliuma - it's all made up
2008-02-14 13:47 < suppiluliuma> yeah but one thing is within the show
2008-02-14 13:47 < The359> George Samuel, Jr. and Aurelan Kirk, Kirk's older brother and sister-in-law, died during the invasion of neural parasites on Deneva in 2267. Kirk's nephew, Peter Kirk, survived.
2008-02-14 13:47 < The359> ok, he had in-laws
2008-02-14 13:47 < suppiluliuma> and one is bullsiht by a lonely person irc
2008-02-14 13:47 < The359> not actual brothers though
2008-02-14 13:47 < Demi> interesting fact: kirk's family name was originally "Kirkle", but his grandfather dropped the terminal "le"
2008-02-14 13:48 < suppiluliuma> deneva yes
2008-02-14 13:48 < The359> and Kirk's son's name is David
2008-02-14 13:48 < The359> not Peter
2008-02-14 13:48 < suppiluliuma> kirks older brother
2008-02-14 13:48 < suppiluliuma> that's a brother
2008-02-14 13:48 < suppiluliuma> dude read what you just pasted. shit
2008-02-14 13:49 < suppiluliuma> i said the son of the brother was peter
2008-02-14 13:49 < The359> you said "his son"
2008-02-14 13:49 < suppiluliuma> meaning, his brothers son
2008-02-14 13:49 < Demi> thus the famous line "i'll never forgive them for what they did to my nephew-in-law"
2008-02-14 13:49 < The359> you didn't specify
2008-02-14 13:49 < slashem> hm
2008-02-14 13:49 < The359> you said "He finds his son"
2008-02-14 13:49 < suppiluliuma> <suppiluliuma> kirk had a brother in the tv show
2008-02-14 13:49 < suppiluliuma> <suppiluliuma> remember the episode when he finds his son peter
2008-02-14 13:50 < slashem> perhaps this is more heated than necessary for a bit of star trek trivia
2008-02-14 13:50 < suppiluliuma> you're dim witted if you cant understand that
2008-02-14 13:50 < Demi> slashem - never!
2008-02-14 13:50 < slashem> !op
2008-02-14 13:50 < Snowolf> slashem: uh?
2008-02-14 13:50 < The359> you did leave out a few lines inbetween those two statements
2008-02-14 13:50 * slashem thinks things are getting a little abusive
2008-02-14 13:50 < suppiluliuma> <Demi> thus the famous line "i'll never forgive them for what they did to my nephew-in-law"
2008-02-14 13:50 < suppiluliuma> lol
2008-02-14 13:50 < Fabexplosive> what you need?
2008-02-14 13:51 < slashem> please reread last few comments regarding Kirk's son/nephew
2008-02-14 13:51 < Demi> incest is actually really common in the twenty-fourth century, so he was probably both
2008-02-14 13:51 < Fabexplosive> uhm
2008-02-14 13:51 * Snowolf leaves the job to fabexplosive and go back to working on the groupware
2008-02-14 13:51 < Fabexplosive> Snowolf: :)
2008-02-14 13:52 < Demi> J.J. Abrams is going to merge Heinlein-style group marriage with parts of Star Trek continuity
2008-02-14 13:53 < suppiluliuma> they need to get rid of braga and berman
2008-02-14 13:53 < suppiluliuma> start fresh
2008-02-14 13:53 < suppiluliuma> too bad they are too deeply inbedded in paramounts ass now
2008-02-14 13:53 < suppiluliuma> like the earwigs of star trek ii
2008-02-14 13:54 < suppiluliuma> embedded
2008-02-14 13:54 < suppiluliuma> i guess
2008-02-14 13:57 < suppiluliuma> sulu is being played by that korean guy from harold and kumar go to white castle
2008-02-14 13:57 < brick_redux> any suggestions on a heuristic for whether an article was found, that works across languages? the en.wp case can be solved by looking for "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name.", for example, but i want to solve this for all locales.
2008-02-14 14:02 < Demi> brick_redux - that special page text is somewhere in MediaWiki:, so you could compare it with the message there; but it sounds like you're doing some scripting and the mediawiki API interface might be more suited
2008-02-14 14:03 < brick_redux> Demi, thanks for the reference, i'll read up on it.
2008-02-14 14:04 < brick_redux> you're right that i want to automate a bit of acquisition...
2008-02-14 14:04 < Mike2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_bin_Laden
2008-02-14 14:08 < ml4macdo> Mike2: hmm..
2008-02-14 14:08 < ml4macdo> i don't know what to think about that
2008-02-14 14:08 < ml4macdo> that redirect page is that user's only contribution
2008-02-14 14:08 < The359> Rick Berman is no longer involved in Star Trek
2008-02-14 14:09 < NotACow> The359: too little too late
2008-02-14 14:12 < Demi> Mike2 - the redirect is inappropriate because the phrase is not mentioned in the article redirected to
2008-02-14 14:12 < Demi> in other words a user being redirected will not know how the article applies
2008-02-14 14:17 < ml4macdo> should such a redirect be deleted, then?
2008-02-14 14:19 < NotACow> DEATH TO REDIRECTS!
2008-02-14 14:19 < OverlordQ> FIREBOMB THEIR KITTIES!
2008-02-14 14:20 < slashem> sleepwalking again
2008-02-14 14:21 < tgies> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aps.net&rcid=195285970
2008-02-14 14:21 < tgies> what is the correct speedy delete reason for this
2008-02-14 14:22 < NotACow> tgies: cowbell deficiency.
2008-02-14 14:22 < NotACow> "Deleted due to lack of cowbell."
2008-02-14 14:22 < OverlordQ> i'd put test
2008-02-14 14:22 < tgies> somehow i doubt this
2008-02-14 14:22 < tgies> OverlordQ: yeah that's what I was thinking
2008-02-14 14:23 < OverlordQ> since there isn't a "CSD:WTF were they doing"
2008-02-14 14:23 < NotACow> i like mine better
2008-02-14 14:24 < tgies> {{db-dumb}}
2008-02-14 14:24 < NotACow> COWBELL
2008-02-14 14:24 < tgies> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Screamsheets&rcid=195286721
2008-02-14 14:24 < tgies> the hell
2008-02-14 14:25 < NotACow> COWBELL
2008-02-14 14:25 < OverlordQ> yea
2008-02-14 14:25 < OverlordQ> definately cowbell
2008-02-14 14:26 < tgies> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anakin_Skywalker_Ghost&rcid=195286652
2008-02-14 14:26 < tgies> fffff
2008-02-14 14:27 < OverlordQ> erm, dont think A7 applies there
2008-02-14 14:27 < OverlordQ> since it's not a real person
2008-02-14 14:27 < tgies> I didn't do that
2008-02-14 14:27 < tgies> someone else did
2008-02-14 14:27 < OverlordQ> oh lol
2008-02-14 14:28 < White_Cat> OverlordQ no such thing as a real person
2008-02-14 14:28 < OverlordQ> "You said there could be Asians" "AGENTS Neo, Agents"
2008-02-14 14:28 < OverlordQ> bestest matrix spoof ever
2008-02-14 14:29 < OverlordQ> [[Computer Boy]]
2008-02-14 14:29 < tgies> what's the template for article needs translation into english again
2008-02-14 14:29 < OverlordQ> {{notenglish}} ?
2008-02-14 14:29 < tgies> oh nm it's a direct copy from es anyway
2008-02-14 14:29 < tgies> that's a speedy delete
2008-02-14 14:38 < NotACow> the "Federal State Police of Dakota"?
2008-02-14 14:38 < NotACow> you know, if you're going to make up nonsense, at least try to be credible.
2008-02-14 14:44 < White_Cat> NotACow maybe it is the unbited federation of planets police
2008-02-14 14:44 < White_Cat> *United Federation of Planets
2008-02-14 14:45 < White_Cat> or may be WWF related :P
2008-02-14 14:56 < Messedrocker> howdy y'all
2008-02-14 14:56 < Messedrocker> i am in at-lan-ta
2008-02-14 14:58 < Messedrocker> ah, post-burger king metabolistic slowdown
2008-02-14 14:58 < Messedrocker> life is good!
2008-02-14 14:59 < zvook> what you doin' in ATL
2008-02-14 14:59 < Messedrocker> i have a connecting flight in a while
2008-02-14 15:00 < ml4macdo> home of the brave(s)
2008-02-14 15:01 < Messedrocker> don't they work that into the national anthem at ball games
2008-02-14 15:01 < quanticle> So, has anyone else noticed the OMG PONIES!! theme that Google docs has adopted for today?
2008-02-14 15:02 < ml4macdo> i remember they did against the toronto blue jays in the world series in the early 90's
2008-02-14 15:02 < Messedrocker> canadians playing baseball
2008-02-14 15:02 < Messedrocker> how silly
2008-02-14 15:02 < ml4macdo> well, we won!
2008-02-14 15:02 < Messedrocker> who's "we"
2008-02-14 15:02 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Almost as silly as Americans playing (real) football.
2008-02-14 15:03 < ml4macdo> the blue jays
2008-02-14 15:03 < ml4macdo> or i suppose "we" would be canadians
2008-02-14 15:06 < NotACow> CANADIAN ALERT!
2008-02-14 15:09 < Messedrocker> quanticle, Americans playing soccer is indeed very silly
2008-02-14 15:09 < Messedrocker> granted it's my favorite sport to play
2008-02-14 15:10 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Mine too, but I'm not a born American, so I consider myself exempted.
2008-02-14 15:10 < Messedrocker> why did you *move* to America
2008-02-14 15:11 < Messedrocker> or the united states, rather
2008-02-14 15:11 < quanticle> Messedrocker: I had no choice in the matter. My parents came here when I was 6.
2008-02-14 15:11 < Messedrocker> i had no choice when my parents decided to move to new jersey :|
2008-02-14 15:11 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-02-14 15:11 < Messedrocker> i moved to jersey when i was three days old
2008-02-14 15:11 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, i am in atlanta
2008-02-14 15:12 < Ceiling_Cat> oh noes, the dirty, dirty south
2008-02-14 15:12 < Messedrocker> i take it you have been watching the south copiously?
2008-02-14 15:12 * Ceiling_Cat sees everyone's shame
2008-02-14 15:12 < quanticle> Messedrocker: However, even if I had the choice, I would still probably have moved to the US. This country has not been bad to me at all, and there's (still) a heck of a lot more opportunity here than in India.
2008-02-14 15:13 < Messedrocker> oh, the US vs. India the US probably wins
2008-02-14 15:13 < Messedrocker> if you moved from western europe to the US i might've called you an idiot
2008-02-14 15:13 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Well, Western Europe has its issues too.
2008-02-14 15:13 < Leslie_S> US isn't that bad of a place ;/
2008-02-14 15:13 < quanticle> Messedrocker: It can be quite difficult to start a business out there, due to all the regulations.
2008-02-14 15:13 < ml4macdo> not as good as canada though
2008-02-14 15:13 < Leslie_S> it'd be better without Illinois though!
2008-02-14 15:14 < ml4macdo> ;)
2008-02-14 15:14 < Leslie_S> Illinois FTL
2008-02-14 15:14 < Leslie_S> i want to live in illinois though. :o
2008-02-14 15:14 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, kelly martin is from illinois
2008-02-14 15:14 < quanticle> Leslie_S: It'd be better with everything East of the Mississippi and South of the Mason-Dixon line gone.
2008-02-14 15:14 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker i live in michigan. you think i dont know anyone from illinois? :P
2008-02-14 15:14 < slashem> http://tinylittledivision.blogspot.com/2008/02/funny-but-no-rejected-valentines.html
2008-02-14 15:14 < Leslie_S> quanticle hey! that includes me :(
2008-02-14 15:15 * Leslie_S is way way way east of the mississippi
2008-02-14 15:15 * Ceiling_Cat watches Leslie_S
2008-02-14 15:17 < quanticle> Leslie_S: You're not south of the Mason Dixon line.
2008-02-14 15:18 < ml4macdo> ah.. quanticle had ambiguous bracketing
2008-02-14 15:19 < ml4macdo> everything (EoM and SoMD), not (everything EoM) and ([everything] SoMD)
2008-02-14 15:19 < quanticle> Yeah.
2008-02-14 15:20 < quanticle> Dammit, I haven't done enough propositional logic lately, I'm getting out of practice with this stuff.
2008-02-14 15:24 < NotACow> DEATH TO LOGIC
2008-02-14 15:24 < slashem> LOGIC TO DEATH
2008-02-14 15:25 < NotACow> LOGICAL DEATH
2008-02-14 15:25 < Messedrocker> DEATH TO WREATH!
2008-02-14 15:25 < Fabexplosive> moo
2008-02-14 15:26 < quanticle> WREATH TO DEATH?
2008-02-14 15:26 < quanticle> O_o
2008-02-14 15:26 < Messedrocker> DEATH TO METH
2008-02-14 15:26 < Messedrocker> (that sure beats the slogan "just say no")
2008-02-14 15:29 < gwern> DEATH TO FANATICS
2008-02-14 15:29 < quanticle> gwern: They'll gladly accept death for their cause.
2008-02-14 15:29 < gwern> 'One-click ordering is as simple as the checkbox that you see on most Web sites to "keep me logged in". The server sends the browser a "persistent cookie" that the browser returns every subsequent time the user requests a page, even if the computer has been restarted in the interim. That way the server (online store) can identify the browser (customer) and re-use the payment and shipping information from the previous order. '
2008-02-14 15:30 < gwern> 'I was asked "Why didn't you patent this yourself, if you developed it first?" My reply was "It only took me an hour to build; if I went down to the patent office after every hour of programming, I wouldn't get very much done." '
2008-02-14 15:30 < quanticle> I find it kinda hilarious that, in the 1970s, people where actually shocked to hear "DEATH TO AMERICA" shouted by Iranian teens, but now the DEATH TO <something> meme is kind of a tired cliche...
2008-02-14 15:30 < gwern> americans were more naive then
2008-02-14 15:30 * Mike_H calls 867-5309 and asks for Jenny
2008-02-14 15:31 < gwern> I think in general we have a better idea of the many scummy things that people hate us for
2008-02-14 15:31 < gwern> *better idea now
2008-02-14 15:31 < Messedrocker> Mike_H!!!!
2008-02-14 15:31 < Messedrocker> I am in Atlanta
2008-02-14 15:31 < Scarian> gwern: Are you busy?
2008-02-14 15:31 < gwern> 'If those old guys were so smart, why didn't they build amazon.com, eBay, and Google? Well, many of them died before the 50,000th person obtained Internet access. There wasn't much point in having an online store when there were only 50 or 100 computers on the Internet. '
2008-02-14 15:32 < Messedrocker> quanticle, the Iranian teens were serious though
2008-02-14 15:32 < gwern> Scarian: I am slowly motivating myself to become busy
2008-02-14 15:32 < Messedrocker> we're just morons
2008-02-14 15:32 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: yay
2008-02-14 15:32 < gwern> Scarian: but if your task is of interest, I might be interested
2008-02-14 15:32 < Scarian> gwern: ...Oh... no, it's not... I'm sleepy and I was wondering if you'd make me some coffee...
2008-02-14 15:32 < Scarian> But never mind...
2008-02-14 15:32 * gwern dislikes coffee. UNINTERESTING
2008-02-14 15:33 * Scarian cries...
2008-02-14 15:33 < gwern> 'They couldn't build our modern world for us back in the 1960s because the hardware hadn't caught up. If you'd given them 50 million quad-core 2 GHz Pentium with 4 GB of RAM and 30 Mbps Verizon FiOS connections to every home, they would have built you all of the services of the modern Internet and probably many that would have been better. '
2008-02-14 15:33 < gwern> 'What would happen if you gave present-day computer programmers those same powerful hardware gifts? We did that experiment. Our modern day best-and-brightest built Microsoft Windows Vista (TM). '
2008-02-14 15:33 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Right, but even now, when fanatics shout DEATH TO AMERICA, it hardly bears mentioning...
2008-02-14 15:34 < gwern> http://philip.greenspun.com/business/internet-software-patents <-- Greenspun doesn't write much, but I find his essays consistently better than Paul Graham or Steve Yegge's
2008-02-14 15:34 < Sfan00> Humm
2008-02-14 15:34 < Sfan00> Why is it some people on Wikipedia moan like fury when efforts are made to really clean -up articles and links?
2008-02-14 15:35 < Messedrocker> Sfan00, because they're uTaH mOrOnS
2008-02-14 15:35 < Sfan00> (Currently removing a batch pof HOTU links- which is causing open dissent on Wikiproject:Videogames)
2008-02-14 15:35 < gwern> Sfan00: because 'clean-up' is a dogwhistle for deletionism
2008-02-14 15:35 < Sfan00> I'm not removing ones that look like they are in fact sharware or not actually hosted by th e linked site
2008-02-14 15:36 < Sfan00> gwern: This isn't deletionism
2008-02-14 15:36 < Sfan00> It's removing 'problem' links
2008-02-14 15:36 < Sfan00> which no-one else seems to want to do
2008-02-14 15:36 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 15:37 < Scarian> Sfan00: Do you need some help?
2008-02-14 15:37 < gwern> Sfan00: 'of course, we only bomb terrorists'
2008-02-14 15:37 < Sfan00> Scarian: Special:Linksearch on *.the-underdogs.info and remove the links that lik to pages with game downloads :)
2008-02-14 15:38 < Sfan00> *link
2008-02-14 15:38 < NotACow> because the people who put those links in REALLY WANT THEM THERE
2008-02-14 15:38 < Scarian> NotACow: :D
2008-02-14 15:38 < Scarian> Sfan00: Sure thing.
2008-02-14 15:38 < NotACow> and they have friends.
2008-02-14 15:38 < NotACow> you don't
2008-02-14 15:38 < gwern> 'Google unseated Yahoo at a cost of about $20 million in financing, simply by being effective software developers and tasteful interface designers. We can infer from this offer that Microsoft expects its own programmers to be only 1/2000th as effective, dollar for dollar, as Google’s. In comparing Vista to XP and dividing by the amount of coding effort that went into Vista, it would be tough to argue with this conclusion.'
2008-02-14 15:38 < Sfan00> That's still no excuse to link to copyvio
2008-02-14 15:38 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-14 15:38 < gwern> I saw a bot revert a copyvio link to youtube the other day
2008-02-14 15:39 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-14 15:39 < gwern> because I had spare time, I wnet to the youtube link
2008-02-14 15:39 < NotACow> Sfan00: they don't need excuses, just persistence.
2008-02-14 15:39 < Sfan00> It put it back?
2008-02-14 15:39 < gwern> turned out, it was an official posting of the university which took the vide
2008-02-14 15:39 < gwern> *video
2008-02-14 15:39 < Sfan00> BTW My removals tend to look bot like, merely due to the speed at which I can work
2008-02-14 15:39 * Sfan00 beeps
2008-02-14 15:39 < gwern> needless to say, it only reinforced my skepticism of deleting edits
2008-02-14 15:40 * NotACow requires Sfan00 to get his editing activities approved by the BAG
2008-02-14 15:40 < Scarian> Sfan00: I'm sorry could you explain again? Where do I go? I've gotten myself lost.
2008-02-14 15:40 * Messedrocker forces NotaCow to get approval from the GUG
2008-02-14 15:40 < gwern> '[If I were a Yahoo shareholder, I would be looking at purchasing an old battleship right now, sailing it into San Francisco Bay, and lobbing some 16″ shells on the Board members’ houses in Atherton. The chance of a Yahoo shareholder ever getting more than $31/share, adjusted for inflation and risk, seems remote.]' <-- think I'd agree. holding MS or Yahoo stock looks to me like a very bad idea
2008-02-14 15:40 < NotACow> Messedrocker: bite me, lamer
2008-02-14 15:40 < Sfan00> Scarian: [[Special:Linksearch]]
2008-02-14 15:40 < Messedrocker> u the lamer
2008-02-14 15:40 < Scarian> Found it.
2008-02-14 15:40 < Scarian> Sorry.
2008-02-14 15:40 < Messedrocker> u.
2008-02-14 15:40 < Sfan00> use pattern *.the-underdogs.info
2008-02-14 15:40 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 15:40 < NotACow> YOU, SIR, ARE DEAD TO ME!
2008-02-14 15:41 < Sfan00> and check pages in article space - Don't touch non articlespace pages
2008-02-14 15:41 < gwern> NotACow: you no call mr Messedrocker a lama! you take it back or I keel you! keel you dead
2008-02-14 15:41 < OverlordQ> mmmmm
2008-02-14 15:41 < OverlordQ> HotU
2008-02-14 15:41 < NotACow> lama lama ding dong
2008-02-14 15:42 < gwern> cuidado llama!
2008-02-14 15:42 < Sfan00> OverloadQ: I am not removing obvious freeware, and did rollback a few that were over zealously removed
2008-02-14 15:42 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 15:43 < Scarian> Sfan00: So we're looking for anything illegal?
2008-02-14 15:43 < quanticle> gwern: Its, "Keel you 'til you dead!" If you'
2008-02-14 15:43 < quanticle> re going to talk like that
2008-02-14 15:43 < quanticle> get it right
2008-02-14 15:43 * quanticle curses the enter key
2008-02-14 15:43 < Sfan00> Any link() in which the linked contains a direct download link should be removed...
2008-02-14 15:44 < quanticle> Why does it have to be right next to the quotation marks?
2008-02-14 15:44 < gwern> quanticle: you no mock me, or - or I cut, cut you so bad you, you wish I no cut you!
2008-02-14 15:44 < Sfan00> Scarian: I am sure others here can help
2008-02-14 15:44 < Sfan00> BTW Please read the disscusion at Wikiproject:Videogames FIRST!
2008-02-14 15:44 < Scarian> Sfan00: Oh... so links to pages where it gives information about the game (but also has a download link on the page) are okay?
2008-02-14 15:45 < Sfan00> No
2008-02-14 15:45 < Scarian> They're the bad ones?
2008-02-14 15:45 < Sfan00> Yes
2008-02-14 15:45 < Messedrocker> people who use my bot are lamers
2008-02-14 15:45 < Sfan00> I mean the HOTU page that is
2008-02-14 15:45 < Scarian> e.g.
2008-02-14 15:45 < Sfan00> (not the Article obviously)
2008-02-14 15:46 < Sfan00> Scarian: http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=1010 - Acceptable
2008-02-14 15:46 < Scarian> Why?
2008-02-14 15:46 < Sfan00> No download link -
2008-02-14 15:47 < Sfan00> It links to a place where you can purchase the game legally
2008-02-14 15:47 < Scarian> Okay good stuff.
2008-02-14 15:47 < Scarian> I'm shattered. Please excuse me whilst I get some coffee :)
2008-02-14 15:47 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Which bot did you make?
2008-02-14 15:48 < Messedrocker> i am responsible for [[User:RFC bot]]
2008-02-14 15:48 < Sfan00> Scarian: http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=1072 -Unacceptable (contains download link for what looks a commercial game)
2008-02-14 15:48 < Messedrocker> which was coded by betacommand
2008-02-14 15:51 < Leslie_S> i dont suppose anyone is knowledgable about ear piercings?
2008-02-14 15:52 < Demi> hey, they took away my forward dropdown
2008-02-14 15:52 < Demi> i mean backward dropdown
2008-02-14 15:57 < NotACow> narf
2008-02-14 15:58 < Scarian> Sfan00: I see now.
2008-02-14 15:58 < Scarian> Thanks.
2008-02-14 15:58 < Messedrocker> fran
2008-02-14 15:59 * Ceiling_Cat latches onto Messedrocker's face
2008-02-14 15:59 * Messedrocker holds Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-14 16:00 < Messedrocker> i wonder what my cats do when no human is in the house
2008-02-14 16:00 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, watch over my cats
2008-02-14 16:00 < Sfan00> Scarian: BTW Feel free to check other links on the page you find though :)
2008-02-14 16:01 < Scarian> Yeah I found a couple before ;)
2008-02-14 16:01 < Scarian> ...I think.
2008-02-14 16:01 < Sfan00> Eventually uploaders will realise you shouldn't link to copyvio from enwiki
2008-02-14 16:01 < quanticle> Messedrocker: He's a cat, not God.
2008-02-14 16:01 < Sfan00> but until then the removals have to happen now and then
2008-02-14 16:01 < Aqwis3> Messedrocker, schroedinger's?
2008-02-14 16:01 < Sfan00> Qanrticle : A godcat? (Ancient Egypt?)
2008-02-14 16:01 < Messedrocker> quanticle, he may be a cat, but he's ceiling cat
2008-02-14 16:02 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Omniscient, but not omnipotent?
2008-02-14 16:02 < Messedrocker> sure
2008-02-14 16:02 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Is that why he can only watch, but not do anything?
2008-02-14 16:02 * quanticle has to go
2008-02-14 16:02 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-02-14 16:02 < Sfan00> Scarain: Getting started?
2008-02-14 16:03 < Scarian> I'm looking through the company sites
2008-02-14 16:03 < Scarian> But those are a waste of time
2008-02-14 16:03 < Scarian> No download links there at all.
2008-02-14 16:03 < Scarian> Couldn't a bot do this?
2008-02-14 16:03 < NotACow> DEATH TO BOTS
2008-02-14 16:04 < Scarian> Sfan00: Got one :)
2008-02-14 16:04 < Sfan00> OK L(
2008-02-14 16:04 < NotACow> NARF
2008-02-14 16:05 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 16:05 < Sfan00> Scaraian: No
2008-02-14 16:05 < Sfan00> It requires some degree of human judgement :)
2008-02-14 16:05 < Scarian> Sfan00: You've spelt my username wrong twice btw :D
2008-02-14 16:05 < Sfan00> Sorry
2008-02-14 16:06 < Scarian> Naw, it's not bother :P
2008-02-14 16:06 < Scarian> *no
2008-02-14 16:06 < Demi> Scarian - ideally, no, because if the link is being used for information it should be replaced with a better reference
2008-02-14 16:07 < NotACow> human judgement is unreliable.
2008-02-14 16:07 < Demi> i also suspect the notion that copyright violation is transitive may be novel, and the kind of basis on which you don't want to do policy-based removals
2008-02-14 16:07 < Scarian> Demi: I was only told to remove them...
2008-02-14 16:07 < Scarian> I've been removing them from EL...
2008-02-14 16:07 < Scarian> Not ref sections.
2008-02-14 16:07 < NotACow> Demi: the "remove links to copyright infringement" policy is a proxy.
2008-02-14 16:07 < Demi> i see
2008-02-14 16:08 < Demi> that's probably good, i dislike external links
2008-02-14 16:08 < Scarian> :P
2008-02-14 16:08 < Demi> feel free to delete essentially all of them
2008-02-14 16:08 < NotACow> Demi: it's not the real reason the links are bieng removed.
2008-02-14 16:08 < Demi> NotACow - it is, but proxy of proxy of proxy starts getting into baseless territory
2008-02-14 16:08 < Sfan00> In most case HOTU linked article also have moby links
2008-02-14 16:08 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 16:08 < AzaTht> http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CEAD100C-9F85-4C77-BD86-B8010625959C.htm
2008-02-14 16:09 < Sfan00> Scarian: I never said to remove them :)
2008-02-14 16:09 < NotACow> Demi: much of wikipedia "policy" has been abstracted to the level that the people applying it have no concept of why the policy is what it is. they just enforce it, like mindless little policybots.
2008-02-14 16:09 < Demi> you start getting into the idea that "enabling" copyright violation is wrong or illegal, which i think is quite slippery; indeed, it would be difficult to discuss the subject without doing that
2008-02-14 16:09 < Scarian> Sfan00: Oh man...
2008-02-14 16:09 < Sfan00> You just offered to assist :)
2008-02-14 16:09 < Scarian> Sfan00: Want me to undo my edits?
2008-02-14 16:09 < Sfan00> No
2008-02-14 16:09 < Demi> NotACow - a phenomenon not unique to wikipedia!
2008-02-14 16:09 < NotACow> Demi: indeed.
2008-02-14 16:09 < NotACow> Demi: wikipedia just enables doing it faster :)
2008-02-14 16:10 < Sfan00> I never gave an explict, 'NUKE the bastards!' is what I meant :)
2008-02-14 16:10 < Demi> Scarian - external links are supposed to be really pertinent, the bar for having them is supposed to be high; OTOH don't do things on wikipedia because someone tells you, unless you are satisfied you think it's what should be done
2008-02-14 16:11 < Scarian> Demi: I see...
2008-02-14 16:11 < Scarian> I guess I just wanted to help out.
2008-02-14 16:11 < Demi> NotACow - i think we are in a unique place in history, in that the whys and hows of all the things we interact with are mostly unknown to us, i'm not sure people are well-wired to deal with that
2008-02-14 16:11 < Scarian> I didn't really put much thought into it, Demi.
2008-02-14 16:11 < Scarian> I apologise.
2008-02-14 16:11 < Demi> Scarian - don't worry about it, improving wikipedia is a good thing :)
2008-02-14 16:11 < NotACow> Scarian: bad editor.
2008-02-14 16:11 < NotACow> Scarian: never edit without thinking.
2008-02-14 16:11 * Scarian hisses at NotACow...
2008-02-14 16:11 < Sfan00> Demi: I would never suggest someone remove links without thinking about it :)
2008-02-14 16:12 < Sfan00> Demi : The ones I was suggesting be removed were 'problem' ones
2008-02-14 16:12 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 16:12 < NotACow> Demi: i dunno, i think that's been true for most of human existence.
2008-02-14 16:12 < NotACow> Demi: i mean, when we were just starting to domesticate cattle, did we understand how they work? do we understand how they work NOW?
2008-02-14 16:12 < NotACow> Demi: and yet we still have cheese and butter and hamburgers.
2008-02-14 16:12 < Scarian> NotACow: You feed them grass and keep milkin'... :D
2008-02-14 16:13 < Demi> NotACow - sure, on a functional level
2008-02-14 16:13 * Leslie_S giggles at the fact that Not_the_NSA is talking about...cows
2008-02-14 16:13 < Leslie_S> erm, NotACow rather
2008-02-14 16:13 < Rinn> Red Alert 3 announced!
2008-02-14 16:13 < NotACow> and i so want a culver's butterburger with cheese.
2008-02-14 16:13 < Sfan00> Demi: Yeah but how on earth did someone workout cow milk was edible?
2008-02-14 16:13 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 16:13 < Not_the_NSA> Rinn: ?
2008-02-14 16:13 < Demi> Sfan00 - people have apparently tried to eat *everything*
2008-02-14 16:13 < NotACow> Sfan00: ny watching Ugg, the Guy Who Will Eat Anything
2008-02-14 16:13 < Rinn> http://www.ea.com/redalert/
2008-02-14 16:14 < Sfan00> Oh
2008-02-14 16:14 < NotACow> Sfan00: besides, women lactate just like cows.
2008-02-14 16:14 < Demi> i mean, forget milk, what about beer?
2008-02-14 16:14 < NotACow> Sfan00: it's more startling that we figured out that artichokes are edible
2008-02-14 16:14 < Demi> NotACow - women don't lactate beer. i mean, not yet.
2008-02-14 16:14 < Scarian> Sfan00: Hey what about from talk pages?
2008-02-14 16:14 < Sfan00> No
2008-02-14 16:14 < Scarian> Okie dokie.
2008-02-14 16:14 < Sfan00> Don't touch talk pages at all
2008-02-14 16:14 < Sfan00> Only handle in article space
2008-02-14 16:15 < NotACow> i mean, artichokes look more like something you shoud be using to smite your enemies
2008-02-14 16:15 < Demi> NotACow - i had a teacher once who when he first came to california, tried to eat an artichoke (first time he'd seen one), he thought you ate it like a salad
2008-02-14 16:15 < NotACow> Demi: my guess on beer is that someone left some grain in a bowl and it got rained on
2008-02-14 16:16 < NotACow> Demi: and it foamed up and someone else decided to eat/drink it
2008-02-14 16:16 < Sfan00> Fermentation occurs naturally in some products like apples
2008-02-14 16:16 < Sfan00> or damp wheat
2008-02-14 16:16 < Demi> NotACow - i personally think all those stories like that (someone accidentally left meat over a fire, someone accidentally fermented things) are not true
2008-02-14 16:16 < NotACow> Sfan00: yes, elephants ar eknown for seeking out fermented fruit
2008-02-14 16:16 < NotASpy> perhaps a cow or other farm animal
2008-02-14 16:16 < Demi> for example, if you sparge malted barley, it's sweet, and people would drink that
2008-02-14 16:16 < Sfan00> I think Cider is older than beer though
2008-02-14 16:16 < Scarian> Rinn: Is it just gonna be like C&C3?
2008-02-14 16:16 < NotACow> nothing quite like a drunken elephant to make your day
2008-02-14 16:16 < Sfan00> And modern Beer is nothing like tradtional Ale
2008-02-14 16:16 < Sfan00> (becuase of the Hops)
2008-02-14 16:17 < NotACow> Demi: i wish we knew more aout the development of smelting, and of metallurgy more generally.
2008-02-14 16:17 < Rinn> Scarian: Don't know yet.
2008-02-14 16:17 < Demi> putting something bitter and strong-tasting in something to prevent it spoiling is a straightforward thing to try
2008-02-14 16:17 < Demi> NotACow - yeah, there you go. i'm guessing it was prometheus.
2008-02-14 16:18 < Demi> that sort of reminds me, i have a big lump of obsidian in my yard
2008-02-14 16:18 < NotACow> Demi: who, by the way, is not mentioned in wikipedia's article about "fire"
2008-02-14 16:18 < Demi> NotACow - that's because wikipedia is anti-religion
2008-02-14 16:18 < Demi> they couldn't possibly include a faith-based explanation for fire
2008-02-14 16:18 < NotACow> Demi: it's supposed that tin and lead were discovered when someone set a campfire on top of some ore
2008-02-14 16:19 < NotACow> Demi: but people who've tried to replicate that have had rather little luck.
2008-02-14 16:19 < Demi> i think human curiosity and ingenuity would induce people to try heating minerals and finding out the result
2008-02-14 16:19 < Mike2> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7244579.stm
2008-02-14 16:19 < NotACow> Demi: on the other hand, i perfectl believe the discovery of copper
2008-02-14 16:19 < Scarian> Sfan00: A Wiki Video Game Project template links to a bit torrent... :/
2008-02-14 16:19 < NotACow> Demi: it's highly credible that osmoene put a malachite on his pot before firing it in a kiln
2008-02-14 16:19 < Sfan00> Which template?
2008-02-14 16:20 < Sfan00> Also note that P2P /Torrents aren't always bad
2008-02-14 16:20 < NotACow> malachites are pretty and they will smelt out in typical kiln temperatures
2008-02-14 16:20 < Demi> i find all those "accidental" hypotheses unsatisfactory
2008-02-14 16:20 < Demi> yes, that makes sense
2008-02-14 16:20 < Scarian> Sfan00: Yeah it's probably okay.
2008-02-14 16:20 < Demi> once you realize that metals sometimes come from rock, it's not like you're not going to try it
2008-02-14 16:21 < NotACow> Demi: once you discover that you can smelt enthing you will be melting EVERY rock you can find to see what comes out
2008-02-14 16:21 < NotACow> "Hey, try that blue one!"
2008-02-14 16:21 < Demi> NotACow - yes, exactly
2008-02-14 16:21 < NotACow> of course, to get past tin and lead you need aspirated fires
2008-02-14 16:21 < Sfan00> Coal is rumourd to have been found because ti was burning when someon tried to make a fire thinking it was stones
2008-02-14 16:21 < NotACow> and mercury
2008-02-14 16:21 * Mike_H doesn't stop till he gets enough
2008-02-14 16:22 < NotACow> and mercury is tricky because it vaporizes under normal fire levels
2008-02-14 16:22 < Demi> still, you're talking about incremental things over the course of some hundreds or thousands of years, it's not beyond reason to think people figured it out
2008-02-14 16:23 < NotACow> Demi: i think once someone smelted out some lead, it all went from there
2008-02-14 16:23 < Mike_H> David Groh, an actor best known for his role on the 1970s TV sitcom "Rhoda" as the title character's husband, died of kidney cancer Tuesday at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, his family announced. He was 68.
2008-02-14 16:23 < Demi> blow on a fire and it intensifies, pushing air into a confined fire is an obvious next step
2008-02-14 16:24 < NotACow> lead smelts at about 280 F, which is really easy to do
2008-02-14 16:25 < Demi> probably someone accidentally left some galena on a volcano
2008-02-14 16:25 < Demi> along with their flour paste and a bowl of cereal grains. and a chicken
2008-02-14 16:26 < Demi> and thus cooking and smelting
2008-02-14 16:26 < MessedRocker> hi
2008-02-14 16:28 < Scarian> Sfan00: Does the file need to be hosted by the actual underdog site to be okay too?
2008-02-14 16:28 < Sfan00> What link do you mean>
2008-02-14 16:28 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-14 16:28 < Sfan00> Link?
2008-02-14 16:28 < Scarian> No I read your instructions again above...
2008-02-14 16:29 < Scarian> Sfan00> I'm not removing ones that look like they are in fact sharware or not actually hosted by th e linked site
2008-02-14 16:29 < Sfan00> I meant :
2008-02-14 16:29 < Sfan00> i) Don't delink obviosu shareware
2008-02-14 16:29 < Sfan00> ii) Don't delink if the game is NOT hosted on HoTU
2008-02-14 16:30 < Demi> hm, that ultraportable thinkpad might be nice
2008-02-14 16:30 < Sfan00> Thats is all
2008-02-14 16:30 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-14 16:30 < MessedRocker> how ultra
2008-02-14 16:30 < Demi> i don't know
2008-02-14 16:30 < Sfan00> Comapre the links I gave...
2008-02-14 16:30 < Scarian> I'll take a look.
2008-02-14 16:31 < Sfan00> http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=1072 - Unacceptable
2008-02-14 16:31 < Scarian> How can you tell if it's hosted by them or not?
2008-02-14 16:31 < Sfan00> http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=1010 - Acceptable
2008-02-14 16:31 < Sfan00> Scarian - Because it will usally say "Download Here!" with a file size if it is :)
2008-02-14 16:31 < Sfan00> (or something simmilar)
2008-02-14 16:32 < Scarian> Okay... so if I've been removing those ones... that's correct ja?
2008-02-14 16:32 < Sfan00> Yes
2008-02-14 16:32 < Scarian> Thank goodness :)
2008-02-14 16:32 < Sfan00> Provided they don't say 'Freeware' anywhere on them
2008-02-14 16:32 < Demi> MessedRocker - 3 lbs
2008-02-14 16:33 < MessedRocker> what is three PBS
2008-02-14 16:33 < MessedRocker> lbs*
2008-02-14 16:33 < MessedRocker> oh
2008-02-14 16:33 < MessedRocker> that is tiny
2008-02-14 16:33 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Comic- Erm that one sharware
2008-02-14 16:34 < Sfan00> As is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_Department_2192
2008-02-14 16:34 < Scarian> Sfan00: Dang I'm sorry.
2008-02-14 16:34 < Scarian> I'm reverting now.
2008-02-14 16:34 < Sfan00> TD_2192's even on Liberated Games ! :O
2008-02-14 16:34 < Sfan00> IIRC
2008-02-14 16:35 < Scarian> Demi: What do I do if I speedied an article... which a user (or the same user) then recreated again?
2008-02-14 16:35 < Demi> is it the same article?
2008-02-14 16:35 < Scarian> Yes
2008-02-14 16:35 < Scarian> Exact same.
2008-02-14 16:36 < Demi> politely explain to them why the article is unsuitable and speedy it again
2008-02-14 16:36 < Sfan00> Scarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_of_the_Underdogs is fine to link to HoTU from that article
2008-02-14 16:37 < Scarian> Sfan00: Reverted.
2008-02-14 16:37 < Scarian> Demi: Oh my error... it turns out a second version of the article (with a slightly different name) was created a few hours later...
2008-02-14 16:38 < Scarian> Demi: and the user just redirected
2008-02-14 16:38 < Scarian> So I've speedied either way.
2008-02-14 16:40 < Demi> "Supposedly a few sneaky drops of this elixir in your partner's drink will get his or her "fires of passion aroused," and instill "sustained endurance and stimulation for romantic encounters." The fine print warns that Love Potion's primary ingredient, kava kava root, has the potential to cause severe liver problems. But who among us hasn't endangered that vital organ in the name of sex?"
2008-02-14 16:44 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00 - Anyone care to comment on the proposed wikiproject?
2008-02-14 16:45 < Demi> "If you're a douchebag, there are innumerable ways to announce your douchebaggery to those around you. But you'd have to search a very long time to find a clearer signal than carrying a box of breast-shaped mints in your pocket. "
2008-02-14 16:49 < Dubber> is there a wikiquote admin here
2008-02-14 16:49 < gwern> "A bone through the nose is not the same as a man walking on the moon."
2008-02-14 16:52 * Fabexplosive goodnight
2008-02-14 16:52 < Miranda|away> Dubber: try #wikiquote
2008-02-14 16:52 < Dubber> already did
2008-02-14 16:52 < gwern> huh. I didn't know the MITRE corp registered the first ever .org domain
2008-02-14 16:52 < apple> http://www.liveleak.com/player2.swf?token=18f_1201000704
2008-02-14 16:53 < apple> tell me, does that seem fake?
2008-02-14 16:53 < Scarian> Sfan00: What's your username, friend?
2008-02-14 16:53 < Sfan00> user:ShakespeareFan00
2008-02-14 16:53 < Sfan00> or User:Sfan00_IMG
2008-02-14 16:53 < missingno000> hi all
2008-02-14 16:53 < ml4macdo> hi missingno000
2008-02-14 16:54 < OverlordQ> are there any pages/tools to list how many pages exist in a given category?
2008-02-14 16:54 < Scarian> apple: What are they doing?
2008-02-14 16:54 < MessedRocker> missingno stop corrupting my hall of fame
2008-02-14 16:55 < missingno000> Help!
2008-02-14 16:55 < missingno000> I am using mIRC now, so...
2008-02-14 16:55 < apple> Scarian: they're going boom
2008-02-14 16:55 < missingno000> How do I switch from one registered nick to another if the / nick command does not work?
2008-02-14 16:55 < apple> they were digging a 155mm arty shell out of the ground
2008-02-14 16:55 < apple> it detonated
2008-02-14 16:55 < Scarian> apple: At what point does it detonate?
2008-02-14 16:56 < JohnReaves> missingno000:Are you in a room that is +m?
2008-02-14 16:56 < Scarian> apple: Oh there we go...
2008-02-14 16:56 < OverlordQ> what time is it at?
2008-02-14 16:57 < Scarian> apple: Where did you get it from?
2008-02-14 16:57 < missingno000> JohnReaves: no
2008-02-14 16:57 < missingno000> tried to open a window for another server
2008-02-14 16:57 < apple> 53 seconds in they go boom
2008-02-14 16:57 < missingno000> how do I do that?
2008-02-14 16:57 < missingno000> Also,
2008-02-14 16:57 < missingno000> How do I switch from one registered nick to another if the / nick command does not work?