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2008-02-13 08:50 * brown_cat slaps Lesli_school silly
2008-02-13 08:50 < Leslie_school> i was thinking of improvising a lock on the hood to keep the kitties out.
2008-02-13 08:50 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-02-13 08:50 < Sfan00> Leslie_: That might work
2008-02-13 08:50 < White_Cat> Leslie_school you cant keep the long car out
2008-02-13 08:50 < Sfan00> Netting also an alternate
2008-02-13 08:50 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 netting?
2008-02-13 08:50 < Sfan00> What tuype of fish you putting in
2008-02-13 08:51 < White_Cat> Sfan00 or electricuting with a giant tesla coil
2008-02-13 08:51 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 cool cheap smallish ones
2008-02-13 08:51 < Sfan00> Freshwater or sea fish?
2008-02-13 08:51 < Leslie_school> theres some, forgot what they are, with big bulging eyes that look really cool, definitely one of those
2008-02-13 08:51 < Sfan00> Troical?
2008-02-13 08:51 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 fresh.
2008-02-13 08:51 < Leslie_school> fresh cold water
2008-02-13 08:51 < Sfan00> Not the ubiqitous Gold Fish
2008-02-13 08:51 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-13 08:52 < Leslie_school> maybe
2008-02-13 08:52 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-13 08:52 < Leslie_school> its a 10 gallon tank
2008-02-13 08:52 < Leslie_school> so i have room as long as i dont put bigass fish in it
2008-02-13 08:52 < Leslie_school> :)
2008-02-13 08:52 < arcimboldo_> Or the even more ubiquitous guppy
2008-02-13 08:53 < Leslie_school> theres also these really small fish where i could put a whole bunch in, and theyll swim around in schools...thats pretty neat..
2008-02-13 08:53 < Leslie_school> i wish i could get a BIG tank, but..maybe after i move out.
2008-02-13 08:54 < Sfan00> BTW MAke sure you go to a fish specialist that KNOW's what they are talking about
2008-02-13 08:54 < Leslie_school> why
2008-02-13 08:54 < Sfan00> I've heard some horror stories
2008-02-13 08:54 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-13 08:54 < Leslie_school> like?
2008-02-13 08:54 < Sfan00> About fish that died within a month due to poor advice from the seller
2008-02-13 08:54 < Leslie_school> lol
2008-02-13 08:55 < Leslie_school> well.....the people in that department at walmart are pretty knowledgable at my walmart
2008-02-13 08:55 < Sfan00> WalMart sells pets?
2008-02-13 08:55 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-13 08:55 < Leslie_school> fish, yes.
2008-02-13 08:55 < Sfan00> Wonder's never cease
2008-02-13 08:55 < Leslie_school> they dont sell any other pets
2008-02-13 08:55 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 walmart is a small city.
2008-02-13 08:55 < eth01> Leslie_school, ah, you're back - i thought you might.
2008-02-13 08:56 < Sfan00> There's been a decline in tradtional Pet Shops in the UK though
2008-02-13 08:56 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 its neato though, because i can get the oil changed on my car while im working
2008-02-13 08:56 < Leslie_school> eth01 well.....im not mad at anyone in this channel. why leave?
2008-02-13 08:56 < eth01> you said you were going to leave freenode in *general*.
2008-02-13 08:56 < Leslie_school> eth01 im primarily upset with LoRez and miranda
2008-02-13 08:56 < eth01> wait, i have the logs here.
2008-02-13 08:56 < Leslie_school> eth01 I know what i fucking said.
2008-02-13 08:56 < ancjr> that'll be neat when walmart delivers babys and gives heart transplants
2008-02-13 08:56 < Sfan00> eth01: Leave it
2008-02-13 08:56 < Leslie_school> I'm not fucking stupid, jerk.
2008-02-13 08:56 < eth01> language please :P
2008-02-13 08:56 < Leslie_school> go to hell
2008-02-13 08:56 < eth01> hmmm
2008-02-13 08:56 < Sfan00> ancjr: Erm
2008-02-13 08:57 < C3r3brum> wow you're combative
2008-02-13 08:57 < eth01> ops?
2008-02-13 08:57 < Leslie_school> anyway, i know a lot of people in here, and im not mad at anyone in this channel. so why leave.
2008-02-13 08:57 < ancjr> please don't fight
2008-02-13 08:57 * Leslie_school ignores eth01
2008-02-13 08:57 < Sfan00> I thought some formetly medical stuff was no done via pharmcies?
2008-02-13 08:57 < Sfan00> Which Wlamart has
2008-02-13 08:57 < eth01> how very catalystic...
2008-02-13 08:57 < Sfan00> *walmart
2008-02-13 08:57 < eth01> :)
2008-02-13 08:57 < ancjr> wb
2008-02-13 08:57 < Leslie_school> why edo people have to be such jerks?
2008-02-13 08:58 < arcimboldo_> Edo people? Tokyoites?
2008-02-13 08:58 < eth01> http://rafb.net/p/kbZNcq40.html
2008-02-13 08:58 < Sfan00> Anyway I was saying, I've seen a decline in tradtional pet stores in the UK
2008-02-13 08:59 < Sfan00> People tend these days to buy direct from breeders or specalists
2008-02-13 08:59 < eth01> Sfan00, oh yeah, deffo.
2008-02-13 08:59 < Sfan00> Presumaby there was some kind of chnage in the legislation
2008-02-13 09:00 < Sfan00> Or the RSPCA got more radical and succuseful in prosecuting the rouge element
2008-02-13 09:00 < eth01> don't think so, just think the need for the local pet shop isn't what it just to be.
2008-02-13 09:00 < Sfan00> Because I am sure SOME pet stores I've seen would not be allowed under the current rules
2008-02-13 09:00 < Sfan00> I am not sure about the US though
2008-02-13 09:01 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Rebel.gif&diff=prev&oldid=185832974
2008-02-13 09:02 < White_Cat> can someone please sort that out
2008-02-13 09:02 < White_Cat> ?
2008-02-13 09:02 < Ryanpostlethwait> White_Cat: How often does ceiling cat come online?
2008-02-13 09:02 < eth01> sort out what?
2008-02-13 09:02 < White_Cat> the licensing
2008-02-13 09:03 < White_Cat> "we feel it is copyleft" isnt very legaly bimding
2008-02-13 09:03 < Snowolf> Ryanpostlethwait: very frequently
2008-02-13 09:03 < White_Cat> as this we happens to be a wikipedia user
2008-02-13 09:03 < Ryanpostlethwait> Snowolf: Ecellent
2008-02-13 09:03 < Ryanpostlethwait> excellent even
2008-02-13 09:03 < Snowolf> but I think he's around more in the utc noon-evening
2008-02-13 09:04 < Leslie_school> CEILING CAT IS WATCHING YOU FAP
2008-02-13 09:04 < White_Cat> Leslie_school its a lie
2008-02-13 09:04 < Sfan00> The other thing that's presumably killed radtional pet stores, is the much wider public awareness of animal welfare issues
2008-02-13 09:04 < White_Cat> ceiling cat is actualy doing research right now
2008-02-13 09:04 < White_Cat> Sfan00 well
2008-02-13 09:04 < White_Cat> owning a pet is expensive
2008-02-13 09:04 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 are traditional pet stores so horrible?
2008-02-13 09:04 < White_Cat> more so with the increased costs
2008-02-13 09:05 * White_Cat cages Leslie_school to illustrate a point
2008-02-13 09:05 < Leslie_school> Sfan00 oh, and hey...i bought some new shoes. :) ones that are mens shoes but would look cute on a girl
2008-02-13 09:05 < Leslie_school> .....
2008-02-13 09:05 < Leslie_school> theyre animals though.
2008-02-13 09:05 < Sfan00> Leslie_School: Some of the 'rouge' pet stores were
2008-02-13 09:05 < White_Cat> Leslie_school yes
2008-02-13 09:05 < White_Cat> and animals have a psyke too
2008-02-13 09:05 < Leslie_school> yes, but like...some of them have decent size cages.
2008-02-13 09:05 < White_Cat> an animal caged will get depressed
2008-02-13 09:05 < Sfan00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_store has an article but it's rather brief
2008-02-13 09:05 < White_Cat> Leslie_school traditional ones dont
2008-02-13 09:05 < Leslie_school> White_Cat what about a fish in a tank?
2008-02-13 09:06 < White_Cat> Leslie_school fish dont have a memory so its ok for them
2008-02-13 09:06 < White_Cat> their memory is very short
2008-02-13 09:06 < Leslie_school> White_Cat infact, theres one near me where all the cats are generally ....not caged. at all.
2008-02-13 09:06 < Sfan00> When did pet stores become a part of retail anyway?
2008-02-13 09:06 < Leslie_school> and im pretty sure the cats are all rescued.
2008-02-13 09:06 < White_Cat> Leslie_school thats not traditional
2008-02-13 09:06 < Leslie_school> White_Cat i know.
2008-02-13 09:06 < Leslie_school> White_Cat but its really fun to go pet the cats
2008-02-13 09:06 < White_Cat> traditional petshops cage them in little sells
2008-02-13 09:06 < Sfan00> because I am thinking there are largely Twentith century?
2008-02-13 09:06 < White_Cat> Leslie_school cat petting is fun
2008-02-13 09:07 * White_Cat pets self
2008-02-13 09:07 < Sfan00> The Wikipedia article doesn't give an history of those
2008-02-13 09:07 < Sfan00> *of them
2008-02-13 09:07 < White_Cat> Leslie_school you still on a 56k link where you are now?
2008-02-13 09:07 < Leslie_school> White_Cat im on really bad wifi
2008-02-13 09:08 < White_Cat> so you have your laptop fixed?
2008-02-13 09:08 < White_Cat> :D
2008-02-13 09:08 < Leslie_school> and uh, as far as that pet store...all the cats are in a small room. and they all get along with eachother
2008-02-13 09:08 < Leslie_school> White_Cat yes. it was a bad power adapter.
2008-02-13 09:08 < White_Cat> oh wow
2008-02-13 09:08 < Leslie_school> and some of the cats sleep in really crazy places
2008-02-13 09:08 < Leslie_school> like one sleeps in a cabinet
2008-02-13 09:08 < Leslie_school> lol
2008-02-13 09:08 < Sfan00> Hmm
2008-02-13 09:08 < Sfan00> Cats in a room , you can do
2008-02-13 09:08 < White_Cat> Leslie_school my cat likes to sleep wherever the authority figure sits
2008-02-13 09:08 < Sfan00> However dogs need space :)
2008-02-13 09:08 < Leslie_school> they do *HAVE* cages, but theyre mostly not caged.
2008-02-13 09:09 < White_Cat> and it despises me
2008-02-13 09:09 < White_Cat> :/
2008-02-13 09:09 < eth01> why is everybody forgetting to use the damn ''''
2008-02-13 09:09 < eth01> it's they're not theyre.
2008-02-13 09:09 < Sfan00> It sickens me the way some people cage dogs
2008-02-13 09:09 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-13 09:09 < White_Cat> 'e't'h'0'1'
2008-02-13 09:09 < White_Cat> there
2008-02-13 09:09 < White_Cat> happy?
2008-02-13 09:10 < eth01> :(
2008-02-13 09:10 < White_Cat> oh dont be sad
2008-02-13 09:10 < White_Cat> be happy
2008-02-13 09:12 < eth01> i c
2008-02-13 09:12 < White_Cat> yay
2008-02-13 09:12 < White_Cat> I am so happy :)
2008-02-13 09:12 < White_Cat> thank you whois :D
2008-02-13 09:14 < Leslie_school> brb, going to another building.
2008-02-13 09:14 < White_Cat> yay
2008-02-13 09:14 * White_Cat watches Leslie_school change buildings
2008-02-13 09:18 < JordanC> Golden Skans! \o/
2008-02-13 09:23 < Trickz> hi
2008-02-13 09:23 < Snowolf> hi Trickz
2008-02-13 09:23 < Trickz> how are you?
2008-02-13 09:24 < JordanC> How's Trickz :P
2008-02-13 09:24 < Trickz> good :)
2008-02-13 09:24 < JordanC> Whee
2008-02-13 09:24 < Trickz> it's heavily snowing outside and the teacher didn't come in
2008-02-13 09:24 < Trickz> rofl
2008-02-13 09:25 < JordanC> aw
2008-02-13 09:26 * Snowolf likes snow :)
2008-02-13 09:26 < Trickz> yup
2008-02-13 09:26 < Trickz> we got a lot lately :)
2008-02-13 09:26 < Trickz> it's another snowstorm in 2 weeks
2008-02-13 09:27 < Trickz> so i'm in the library, using Portable Firefox with a LOT of flashy add-ons
2008-02-13 09:28 < Leslie_school> lol, i just noticed i could get WIRED networking in this locale
2008-02-13 09:28 < Leslie_school> i wonder if the school would care.
2008-02-13 09:28 * Leslie_school found a cat5 jack on the wall :o
2008-02-13 09:28 * Leslie_school should bring a cat5 cable with her next time
2008-02-13 09:28 < White_Cat> Leslie_school
2008-02-13 09:28 < Leslie_school> ...
2008-02-13 09:28 < White_Cat> so long as you connect it to your computer and not your body
2008-02-13 09:28 < White_Cat> I dont think theyd care
2008-02-13 09:28 < Leslie_school> .....
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> Well, setting up the wi-fi on my ipod touch in the library is hard as fuck
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> lol
2008-02-13 09:29 < Leslie_school> anyway, im on wifi at the moment.
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> hax it
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> lol
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> so instead
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> i'M burning DVD'S
2008-02-13 09:29 < Trickz> lol<
2008-02-13 09:30 < White_Cat> I am on a cat5 link
2008-02-13 09:30 * White_Cat feels wired
2008-02-13 09:30 < White_Cat> weird too
2008-02-13 09:31 < eth01> wired and weird?
2008-02-13 09:31 < eth01> or both.
2008-02-13 09:31 < White_Cat> both
2008-02-13 09:31 < Leslie_school> is there a way to synchronize files between a laptop and a desktop anyway?
2008-02-13 09:32 < Snowolf> From my talk page: "im very sorry i did this to you snowy wolf i will fiddle your fur if u dont block me ok oko" lol
2008-02-13 09:32 < Miranda> Snowolf: lol funny
2008-02-13 09:32 < Scottc> arg
2008-02-13 09:32 < Trickz> i hate furries
2008-02-13 09:32 < Trickz> lol
2008-02-13 09:32 < Scottc> Whats the longest its going to take to change my sleep schedule?
2008-02-13 09:32 < White_Cat> Leslie_school yes there is
2008-02-13 09:32 < White_Cat> you can download such software
2008-02-13 09:32 < White_Cat> or you could use cygwin :)
2008-02-13 09:33 < White_Cat> i think thats built in to linux
2008-02-13 09:33 < Leslie_school> i dont use linux anymore
2008-02-13 09:33 < Leslie_school> and why isnt it built into windows anymore?
2008-02-13 09:33 < Leslie_school> there used to be a My Briefcase in windows 95....its nowhere to be found in xp.
2008-02-13 09:33 < Trickz> Leslie_school, My Briefcase still exists in XP
2008-02-13 09:33 < eth01> my briefcase, ewwww, i hated that feature.
2008-02-13 09:33 < eth01> i still do.
2008-02-13 09:35 < White_Cat> Leslie_school i dont use brifcases
2008-02-13 09:35 * White_Cat uses backpack
2008-02-13 09:36 < Snowolf> Whad does the "My Briefcase" do?
2008-02-13 09:36 < Snowolf> I did used it too much time ago.
2008-02-13 09:36 < White_Cat> Snowolf I think its a windows thing...
2008-02-13 09:36 < White_Cat> who knows
2008-02-13 09:37 < White_Cat> maybe its a kind of tentacle
2008-02-13 09:37 * Snowolf uses Windows :P
2008-02-13 09:37 < White_Cat> :\
2008-02-13 09:37 < Trickz> Snowolf, it allowed 2 folders to be synchronized
2008-02-13 09:37 < Trickz> like if you put a file in it
2008-02-13 09:37 < Trickz> the small file would track changes
2008-02-13 09:37 < Snowolf> aaaah yeah now I recall, I used it with my Win 95 laptop
2008-02-13 09:37 < Snowolf> a long time has passed since ;-)
2008-02-13 09:46 < JordanC> Oooh
2008-02-13 09:46 < JordanC> Wikiobbying
2008-02-13 09:47 < Trickz> oooooooh
2008-02-13 09:47 < Trickz> train tickets for NYC at 75$
2008-02-13 09:57 < White_Cat> Anthere2
2008-02-13 09:57 < White_Cat> you around?
2008-02-13 09:59 < NotACow> death to roundness
2008-02-13 10:01 < Trickz> death to cows
2008-02-13 10:02 < White_Cat> Anthere2 I need your opinion on this financial issue
2008-02-13 10:02 < White_Cat> involving the foundation of course :)
2008-02-13 10:06 < White_Cat> Alkivar
2008-02-13 10:06 < White_Cat> say I know the IP of a user
2008-02-13 10:06 < White_Cat> can I request a checkuser with another?
2008-02-13 10:07 < White_Cat> I suspect sockpuppetary but I dont have much evidence
2008-02-13 10:10 < arcimboldo_> If anyone fancies discussion with a racist Ron Paul supporter on gun control go to #politics.
2008-02-13 10:10 < Trickz> damn it
2008-02-13 10:10 < Trickz> stifle tagged my image again
2008-02-13 10:15 < White_Cat> arcimboldo_ who is it?
2008-02-13 10:15 < arcimboldo_> Oh, I just left two seconds ago ... the name starts with an N and is also in the channel topic
2008-02-13 10:16 < arcimboldo_> Can't remember the exact name.
2008-02-13 10:16 < White_Cat> Nockian ?
2008-02-13 10:17 < arcimboldo_> Yep
2008-02-13 10:17 < arcimboldo_> That's the weirdest channel I've seen so far ...
2008-02-13 10:18 < arcimboldo_> Anyhow, good night.
2008-02-13 10:18 < NotACow> YAR
2008-02-13 10:21 < NotACow> ooh
2008-02-13 10:21 < NotACow> the US Marshal made an arrest in the tinley park shootings
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> Snowolf
2008-02-13 10:23 < RichiH> NotACow: you mean during? ;)
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> can I entrust a metter in your hands?
2008-02-13 10:23 < Snowolf> yes White_Cat?
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Rebel.gif&diff=prev&oldid=185832974
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> can you please help sort that out
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> licensing is problematic
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> and claim does not feel valid
2008-02-13 10:23 * RichiH hands NotACow a grammar, free of charge ;)
2008-02-13 10:23 < Snowolf> White_Cat: I know nothing about Images :(
2008-02-13 10:23 < White_Cat> even if it is true
2008-02-13 10:24 < White_Cat> aw
2008-02-13 10:24 < White_Cat> who do you know that knows something about this?
2008-02-13 10:26 < Pilotguy> NotACow
2008-02-13 10:26 < White_Cat> Pilotguy can you help sort that image thing? :/
2008-02-13 10:27 < Pilotguy> No.
2008-02-13 10:27 < White_Cat> aw
2008-02-13 10:27 < White_Cat> Pilotguy I would buy you candy for it
2008-02-13 10:27 < White_Cat> used... but never the less sweetish
2008-02-13 10:28 < Rjd0060> White_Cat: Still having licensing problems?
2008-02-13 10:28 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-13 10:29 < White_Cat> no one helped sort it
2008-02-13 10:29 < White_Cat> :(
2008-02-13 10:29 < Rjd0060> I may be able to
2008-02-13 10:29 < Snowolf> Rjd0060: got the link?
2008-02-13 10:29 < White_Cat> :D
2008-02-13 10:29 < Pilotguy> !admin do something usefu today
2008-02-13 10:29 < Rjd0060> Snowolf: yes
2008-02-13 10:29 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Rebel.gif&diff=prev&oldid=185832974
2008-02-13 10:29 < Snowolf> k
2008-02-13 10:29 < Rjd0060> looking now
2008-02-13 10:29 < White_Cat> thats the image
2008-02-13 10:29 < Pilotguy> Like maybe uh fix this license
2008-02-13 10:30 < NotACow> DEATH TO LICENSES
2008-02-13 10:30 < kibble> O_O
2008-02-13 10:30 < Rjd0060> White_Cat: You just have no rationale that the bot could see
2008-02-13 10:30 < White_Cat> thats not me
2008-02-13 10:30 < Rjd0060> oh
2008-02-13 10:30 < White_Cat> the person claims its for free use
2008-02-13 10:30 < White_Cat> but does not provide an adequate explanation I think
2008-02-13 10:31 < NotACow> RichiH: my grammar is appropriate idiomatic english, thankyouverymuch
2008-02-13 10:31 < Rjd0060> Logos are always simpler than other NF things
2008-02-13 10:31 < NotACow> NF?
2008-02-13 10:31 < Rjd0060> White_Cat: Non free
2008-02-13 10:31 < NotACow> neurofibromatosis?
2008-02-13 10:31 < White_Cat> yes but its not licensed as such
2008-02-13 10:32 < RichiH> NotACow: just pulling your hoof
2008-02-13 10:32 < NotACow> DEATH TO BOTS
2008-02-13 10:32 < NotACow> RichiH: haha
2008-02-13 10:32 < Rjd0060> White_Cat: All they would have to do is add a rationale
2008-02-13 10:32 < White_Cat> Rjd0060 can you tell that to the uploader?
2008-02-13 10:32 < White_Cat> I dont want to get directly involved
2008-02-13 10:32 < Rjd0060> I can just do it
2008-02-13 10:32 < White_Cat> or that :)
2008-02-13 10:32 < NotACow> YAR!
2008-02-13 10:32 < White_Cat> but then the uploader would not learn
2008-02-13 10:33 < NotACow> White_Cat: so beat them up for being stupid.
2008-02-13 10:33 < Rjd0060> White_Cat: I'll do it and explain to the uploader :)
2008-02-13 10:33 < White_Cat> yay
2008-02-13 10:33 < White_Cat> perfect
2008-02-13 10:33 < White_Cat> NotACow unlike you I am not a troll dear
2008-02-13 10:33 < NotACow> White_Cat: yes, you are, you just won't admit it
2008-02-13 10:33 < Pilotguy> hehehehe
2008-02-13 10:34 < White_Cat> NotACow comeing from you I take that as a compliment
2008-02-13 10:34 * Pilotguy eats White_Cat
2008-02-13 10:34 < White_Cat> please dont stop
2008-02-13 10:34 < White_Cat> O_o
2008-02-13 10:34 < White_Cat> I am digested!
2008-02-13 10:34 < White_Cat> or is it a different kind of eat o_O
2008-02-13 10:36 < Rjd0060> White_Cat: Rationale added and I noted the user
2008-02-13 10:36 < White_Cat> yay
2008-02-13 10:44 * White_Cat puts smoddy|onwheels on more wheels
2008-02-13 10:44 * White_Cat wtaches smoddy|onwheels try to ballance self
2008-02-13 10:45 * smoddy|onwheels rolls off to his supervision
2008-02-13 10:57 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-02-13 10:57 < Snowolf> hiya Fabexplosive
2008-02-13 10:57 < Fabexplosive> heya Snowolf
2008-02-13 11:13 < TheWeasel_> hm
2008-02-13 11:13 < TheWeasel> That's better.
2008-02-13 11:14 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-02-13 11:14 < Anthere2> white_Cat ?
2008-02-13 11:15 < Anthere2> I have 3 mn if you are still around
2008-02-13 11:18 < mecredis> Hi everyone!
2008-02-13 11:18 * NotACow looks around for this "everyone", doesn't see 'em
2008-02-13 11:18 < mecredis> oh well
2008-02-13 11:20 < mecredis> I am working on a project where I'm trying to analyze the deleted pages of wikipedia
2008-02-13 11:20 < mecredis> and I've downloaded a lot of the xml provided
2008-02-13 11:20 < mecredis> and am parsing through it
2008-02-13 11:20 < mecredis> but its going to take a lot of time to figure out which pages got deleted
2008-02-13 11:20 < mecredis> I was wondering if there was someone I could talk to to get a specific dump
2008-02-13 11:21 < mecredis> of all the recorded deleted pages
2008-02-13 11:21 < mecredis> so I figured I'd start here
2008-02-13 11:25 < mecredis> OK
2008-02-13 11:30 < mecredis> can anyone point me in the right direction?
2008-02-13 11:32 < Pilotguy_aw> mecredis- Try #wikimedia-tech
2008-02-13 11:33 < mecredis> OK thanks I figured there'd be a special channel
2008-02-13 11:33 < Pilotguy> mecredis- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete too
2008-02-13 11:34 < mecredis> yeah, was going to use that as my index
2008-02-13 11:34 < mecredis> against the big dump
2008-02-13 11:35 < mecredis> but thanks
2008-02-13 11:40 < NotACow> YAR!
2008-02-13 11:49 < Pilotguy> *tumbleweeds*
2008-02-13 11:58 < AzaTht> <NewsWire> AP: CBS Announces Return Dates for 14 Shows - http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TV_HOLLYWOOD_LABOR_RETURN_DATES?SITE=MAHYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
2008-02-13 12:12 < Mike_H> LOS ANGELES - Gary Coleman is a not-so-newlywed. The former "Diff'rent Strokes" star married 22-year-old Shannon Price in August on a mountaintop in Nevada, but they have been keeping their vows under wraps, the pair told "Inside Edition."
2008-02-13 12:12 < Mike_H> :DD
2008-02-13 12:12 < Mike_H> Price, who is 5-foot-7, and Coleman, who is 4-foot-8, also played down their height gap.
2008-02-13 12:13 < White_Cat> Mike2 well
2008-02-13 12:13 < White_Cat> 5feets is quite high
2008-02-13 12:14 < Mike_H> What'chu talkin' 'bout, White_Cat?
2008-02-13 12:15 < White_Cat> their height diffrence isnt that vast
2008-02-13 12:15 < Mike_H> okay, you totally missed it
2008-02-13 12:15 * Mike_H walks away
2008-02-13 12:16 * White_Cat feels missed
2008-02-13 12:16 * nsh read "married 22-year-old Shannon Price in Disgust"
2008-02-13 12:17 < Mike_H> nsh: rofl
2008-02-13 12:18 < nsh> yeah, i chuckled :-)
2008-02-13 12:18 < Mike_H> if anyone's marrying anyone else in disgust
2008-02-13 12:18 < Mike_H> it's her to him.
2008-02-13 12:24 < White_Cat> Mike_H well
2008-02-13 12:24 < White_Cat> depends
2008-02-13 12:24 < White_Cat> what if its a gay marrige?
2008-02-13 12:24 * nsh blinks
2008-02-13 12:26 < Mike_H> White_Cat: you clearly don't know who Gary Coleman is
2008-02-13 12:26 < Mike_H> or what Diff'rent Strokes is.
2008-02-13 12:26 < White_Cat> no I dont know much but you knew that!
2008-02-13 12:29 < Mike_H> yeah.
2008-02-13 12:29 < White_Cat> so why were you suprised when I demonstrated my ignorance :)
2008-02-13 12:29 < NotACow> a may garriage
2008-02-13 12:29 < White_Cat> instead you should stand corrected :D
2008-02-13 12:30 < NotACow> standing corrected is so tiring
2008-02-13 12:30 < NotACow> i recommend sitting down instead
2008-02-13 12:30 < White_Cat> NotACow I prefer lying
2008-02-13 12:30 < White_Cat> as in lying down
2008-02-13 12:34 < NotACow> WE WILL EAT YOUR CHICKENS
2008-02-13 12:34 < gwern> 22 year old? I guess being rich is nice
2008-02-13 12:36 < White_Cat> gwern some say that
2008-02-13 12:36 < White_Cat> while others say rich people ar eunhappy
2008-02-13 12:36 < White_Cat> tho I never heard of a rich person donating half of his or her wealth for the sake of happyness
2008-02-13 12:36 < White_Cat> exept one person
2008-02-13 12:36 < Mike2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:29igl29
2008-02-13 12:40 < White_Cat> 29 years?
2008-02-13 12:40 < White_Cat> why not 30?
2008-02-13 12:40 < Mike2> look at the username
2008-02-13 12:41 < Mike_H> gwern: Makes you regret your life choices now, doesn't it?
2008-02-13 12:41 < gwern> White_Cat: the research I know of says that being very wealthy doesn't reliably do much for you happiness whereas getting up in wealth to wealthy does a lot. the trick apparently is that you need to be richer than most people you know, but after that the hedonic treadmill and diminishing returns eat the rest
2008-02-13 12:41 < Mike_H> You could have been a midget on a TV show.
2008-02-13 12:41 < gwern> Mike_H: I don't believe I had a choice in the matter
2008-02-13 12:41 * gwern curses my genes of medium height
2008-02-13 12:41 < Mike_H> gwern: how medium?
2008-02-13 12:42 < White_Cat> gwern now can you say that in a language I can understand, preferably in english or japanese
2008-02-13 12:42 < Mike_H> and yes it matters because I want to feel good about myself
2008-02-13 12:42 < gwern> er, medium, I guess. does medium vary in the US?
2008-02-13 12:42 < Mike_H> gwern: we need a number dude.
2008-02-13 12:42 < gwern> oh. think about an inch or two short of six foot
2008-02-13 12:42 < Mike_H> Oh, that's medium?
2008-02-13 12:42 * Mike_H cries
2008-02-13 12:43 < danopia`school> yea
2008-02-13 12:43 * gwern didn't mean to hurt Mike_H's feelings. that was very little of me, very small-minded
2008-02-13 12:43 < Mike_H> I'm an inch or two above 5'6" :(
2008-02-13 12:43 < White_Cat> Mike_H is chibi
2008-02-13 12:43 < Mike_H> and by an inch or two
2008-02-13 12:43 < Mike_H> I mean an inch :(
2008-02-13 12:43 < White_Cat> pocket size
2008-02-13 12:43 < danopia`school> wow Mike_H
2008-02-13 12:43 < gwern> White_Cat: careful, Mike_H sometimes has a short temper
2008-02-13 12:44 < Mike_H> oh, Lord, it's not as if you've never met a man who was 5'7" before
2008-02-13 12:44 < Mike_H> there are very famous 5'7" men
2008-02-13 12:44 < Mike_H> like, um
2008-02-13 12:44 * White_Cat puts Mike_H in the same pocket as a barbie, bill clinton - like how john stewart did
2008-02-13 12:44 < Mike_H> LUCAS from Days of our Lives!!
2008-02-13 12:44 * White_Cat hugs Mike_H
2008-02-13 12:44 < White_Cat> note: I do not have any idea how tall you really are
2008-02-13 12:44 < Trickz> hey White_Cat & Mike_H
2008-02-13 12:44 * White_Cat is imperial system-0
2008-02-13 12:44 < gwern> who goes around knowing the heights of various famous men?
2008-02-13 12:44 < Mike_H> White_Cat: 5'7" is 1.7
2008-02-13 12:44 < White_Cat> 1.7 isnt short at all
2008-02-13 12:45 < Mike_H> gwern: He's a soap actor
2008-02-13 12:45 < gwern> White_Cat: in Japan maybe not
2008-02-13 12:45 < Mike_H> do I need to say any more
2008-02-13 12:45 < danopia`school> 5'7" is short :O
2008-02-13 12:45 < White_Cat> gwern 1.7 is quite an average size on all the places I have been to
2008-02-13 12:45 < Mike_H> danopia: how tall are you :(
2008-02-13 12:45 < White_Cat> and I am considered tall
2008-02-13 12:45 * gwern notes that clearly White_Cat has never been to the scandinavian countries
2008-02-13 12:45 < White_Cat> Mike_H sometimes being tall is very annoying
2008-02-13 12:45 < White_Cat> gwern scandinavia is a ficticious country
2008-02-13 12:46 < White_Cat> there is low gravitiy there so thats why
2008-02-13 12:46 < gwern> 'scandinavian countries'
2008-02-13 12:46 < White_Cat> I heard people travel by making big leaps
2008-02-13 12:46 < White_Cat> or was that the moon?
2008-02-13 12:46 < White_Cat> moon, scandinavia... close enough
2008-02-13 12:46 < White_Cat> :P
2008-02-13 12:48 < gwern> nah. one makes good cheese, the other nasty moon cheese
2008-02-13 12:48 < gwern> I consider that a big difference
2008-02-13 12:49 < White_Cat> gwern you had moon cheese?
2008-02-13 12:49 < White_Cat> you may have caught moonicitise
2008-02-13 12:50 < Aqwis> scandinavia doesn't even have the tallest people in the world =/
2008-02-13 12:50 < White_Cat> I bet the tallest people live in australia
2008-02-13 12:50 < Mike_H> Aqwis: ah, there's a Scandinavian now
2008-02-13 12:50 < Mike_H> how tall are you
2008-02-13 12:50 < Aqwis> 1.85
2008-02-13 12:51 < White_Cat> Aqwis thats tall?
2008-02-13 12:51 < Mike_H> <Wikilinker> Mike_H: 1.85 meters = 72.8346457 in
2008-02-13 12:51 < Mike_H> almost 6'1" :(
2008-02-13 12:51 < White_Cat> Mike_H have you ever pumped your head on the doorway?
2008-02-13 12:52 < Aqwis> actually i think the world's tallest people is the dutch
2008-02-13 12:52 < White_Cat> Aqwis lies
2008-02-13 12:52 < White_Cat> they didnt feel tall
2008-02-13 12:53 < gwern> Aqwis: most people include the dutch in scandinavia, I think. I know I do at least, and I'm the only person who I care about
2008-02-13 12:53 < Aqwis> ;<
2008-02-13 12:54 < NotACow> scandiduchia
2008-02-13 12:54 < NotACow> scandidutchia
2008-02-13 12:54 < Aqwis> scandilux
2008-02-13 12:54 < Mike_H> NotACow: That sounds like a rash made for Charo.
2008-02-13 12:54 < Mike_H> an itch in her cuchi cuchi.
2008-02-13 12:54 < gwern> I mean, heck, if denmark is in scandinavia, why not the netherlands?
2008-02-13 12:55 < Leslie_S> so...hwo long do i need to float the bag of fish before opening it?
2008-02-13 12:55 < Aqwis> culture but
2008-02-13 12:55 < Aqwis> mmm
2008-02-13 12:55 < Mike_H> gwern: and Poland
2008-02-13 12:55 < Mike_H> and
2008-02-13 12:55 < Leslie_S> and hit :)
2008-02-13 12:55 < Mike_H> those other countries.
2008-02-13 12:55 < Leslie_S> Mike_H and sweden!
2008-02-13 12:55 < gwern> poland? why poland?
2008-02-13 12:55 < Aqwis> forget poland
2008-02-13 12:55 < Mike_H> gwern: I don't know, I was just throwing out a name
2008-02-13 13:03 < White_Cat> gwern
2008-02-13 13:03 < White_Cat> forget about poland
2008-02-13 13:03 < White_Cat> even they given up on iraq
2008-02-13 13:05 < White_Cat> Mike_H kuchi? or cuchi?
2008-02-13 13:05 < Trickz> White_Cat, what do you mean?
2008-02-13 13:05 < Leslie_S> ew, the fish are having gay sex
2008-02-13 13:05 < Trickz> guchi guchi
2008-02-13 13:05 < White_Cat> which one is the correct splelling
2008-02-13 13:05 < White_Cat> Leslie_S fish dont have sex
2008-02-13 13:06 < Leslie_S> White_Cat one was giving the other a rimjob ;/
2008-02-13 13:06 < Gracenotes> White_Cat: they do use sexual reproduction, though
2008-02-13 13:06 < White_Cat> yes
2008-02-13 13:06 < Trickz> Giuchie
2008-02-13 13:06 < Trickz> or cootchie
2008-02-13 13:07 < White_Cat> but thats not real sex
2008-02-13 13:07 < WikiHelper> is Wikipedia slow today?
2008-02-13 13:07 * White_Cat sends Gracenotes a video
2008-02-13 13:07 < White_Cat> WikiHelper like everyday slow as hell
2008-02-13 13:07 * Gracenotes doesn't open it
2008-02-13 13:07 < WikiHelper> :(
2008-02-13 13:07 * Trickz goatsebombs Gracenotes
2008-02-13 13:08 < WikiHelper> here goes a death of internet
2008-02-13 13:08 < WikiHelper> some time soon o.O
2008-02-13 13:08 < Trickz> WikiHelper, it already happened with the cable cutting
2008-02-13 13:08 < Gracenotes> WikiHelper: you can hasten the death of the internet, though. Please see http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/
2008-02-13 13:15 < WikiHelper> :O
2008-02-13 13:15 < White_Cat> Gracenotes oh
2008-02-13 13:15 < WikiHelper> Gracenotes: curse you! My whole internet is down except for IRC :O
2008-02-13 13:15 < White_Cat> it was the latest cspan vido
2008-02-13 13:15 < White_Cat> *vido
2008-02-13 13:15 < White_Cat> **video
2008-02-13 13:15 < White_Cat> ***Video***
2008-02-13 13:16 < NotACow> plat splat
2008-02-13 13:16 < White_Cat> sheesh
2008-02-13 13:19 < Gracenotes> WikiHelper: hm? That used to be a site that just displayed a nice notice that the internet was shut down
2008-02-13 13:19 < Gracenotes> not a malicious .js site. Sorry :|
2008-02-13 13:20 < WikiHelper> lol it was a joke :P XD
2008-02-13 13:20 < NotACow> DA INTARWEB IST KAPUTT!
2008-02-13 13:20 < Gracenotes> oh, lol. okay >.<
2008-02-13 13:20 < slashem> what, a german who speaks english with a hillbilly accent?
2008-02-13 13:22 < Leslie_S> lol, just cut the bag open...they havent found the hole yet... LOL
2008-02-13 13:22 < NotACow> STAY AWAY FROM HOLES
2008-02-13 13:23 < Ceogar> Holes are bad mm'kay
2008-02-13 13:23 < av16ar> hello
2008-02-13 13:23 < av16ar> !admin
2008-02-13 13:24 < NotASpy> yeah
2008-02-13 13:24 < WikiHelper> av16ar: any reason you need an admin?
2008-02-13 13:24 < Fabexplosive> moooo
2008-02-13 13:24 < NotACow> !admin my driveway needs to be shoveled, please do so
2008-02-13 13:24 < av16ar> yes
2008-02-13 13:24 < Fabexplosive> or wash my car, please :)
2008-02-13 13:24 < Trickz> NotACow, even my hole down there?
2008-02-13 13:24 < NotASpy> av16ar: how can we help ?
2008-02-13 13:25 < NotACow> Fabexplosive: it's too cold to wash my car :)
2008-02-13 13:25 < Fabexplosive> hehe
2008-02-13 13:26 < slashem> admin plesae cover NotACow's car in ice
2008-02-13 13:26 < Fabexplosive> lol
2008-02-13 13:26 < av16ar> NotASpy: I want like to suggest a change to several system messages
2008-02-13 13:27 < av16ar> NotASpy: those concerning the editable part of the special pages
2008-02-13 13:28 < NotASpy> have you proposed your changes at a central location, such as the Village Pump ?
2008-02-13 13:28 < av16ar> no, not yet
2008-02-13 13:28 < av16ar> do you think it's a better idea I firstly proposed my suggestion on this page?
2008-02-13 13:29 < av16ar> propose*
2008-02-13 13:29 < slashem> this irc channel is only loosely related to the running of wikipedia
2008-02-13 13:29 < slashem> you would do best to propose your changes on the wiki
2008-02-13 13:30 < Gracenotes> does anyone know the name of the rhythm used in the Latin cell phone ringtone? It's a relatively old one.
2008-02-13 13:30 < Gracenotes> don't quite recall its name, though :|
2008-02-13 13:30 < av16ar> ok so first I propose my changes on the wiki, then they say "oh yeah good idea" and then we apply it
2008-02-13 13:30 < slashem> uh, yeah, in theory anyway
2008-02-13 13:31 < av16ar> ok so I'll come back later
2008-02-13 13:31 < WikiHelper> do any of you know what article [[User talk:74.192.35.175]] is talking about?
2008-02-13 13:33 < slashem> One thing I found difficult to get used to on Wikipedia is that "trolling" means something different here than it did on Usenet.
2008-02-13 13:34 < Leslie_S> slashem it does?
2008-02-13 13:34 < slashem> and for some reason "newbie" is considered insulting
2008-02-13 13:35 < Gracenotes> slashem: in what way does Wikipedia/usenet definitions of trolling differ?
2008-02-13 13:35 < slashem> because trolling is actively considered a crime on Wikipedia people throw the term around a lot, to the point where calling someone a "troll" really means, "you annoy me"
2008-02-13 13:36 < slashem> on Usenet, back in the day, a troll had a very specific intent and usually tactics
2008-02-13 13:36 < slashem> a troll was basically someone trying to start a flame war who _was_not_interested_in_what_the_flames_were_about_
2008-02-13 13:36 < slashem> someone who just had an argumentative style was not considered a troll, since they usually had a point they were trying to make
2008-02-13 13:37 < slashem> since I have an argumentative style, I was pretty much immediately labelled a "troll" when I came to wikipedia and I didn't really understand why until it was too late
2008-02-13 13:38 < NotACow> slashem: wikipedia is hostile to criticism.
2008-02-13 13:38 < slashem> there is that too
2008-02-13 13:39 < NotACow> slashem: anyone who speaks critical of wikipedia, wikipedians, or really anything else is "incivil" and a "troll" regardless of their intent
2008-02-13 13:39 < slashem> since Wikipedia has shared ideals which Usenet didn't have much of, you have to swear fealty to the shared ideals to be considered "part of the group"
2008-02-13 13:39 < NotACow> slashem: indeed. have you read Clay Shirky's essay on this?
2008-02-13 13:39 < slashem> this obsession with civility and usage of the term troll pretty much come from Jimbo as far as I can tell
2008-02-13 13:40 < NotACow> slashem: it's not solely from jimbo but jimbo has encouraged it
2008-02-13 13:40 < slashem> I recall reading something by shirky, "a group is it's own worst enemy"?
2008-02-13 13:40 < NotACow> slashem: that's the one.
2008-02-13 13:40 < NotACow> slashem: it so totally applies to wikipedia.
2008-02-13 13:40 < slashem> that is a lot more theoretical, for my part I've been observing details
2008-02-13 13:40 < Thx_> aggg, where chocolate
2008-02-13 13:40 < slashem> well, I do understand a lot of people were unhappy with the culture Usenet developed
2008-02-13 13:40 < Thx_> where!!
2008-02-13 13:41 < NotACow> slashem: i'm a troll, you know
2008-02-13 13:41 < NotACow> ask anyone in wikipedia
2008-02-13 13:41 < NotACow> they'll tell you that
2008-02-13 13:41 < slashem> yes I have been following you Cow
2008-02-13 13:41 < slashem> there are some nasty politics on Wikipedia
2008-02-13 13:41 < slashem> NotACow: may I PM you?
2008-02-13 13:42 < NotACow> slashem: of course you may. i don't elieve in having silly rules for who can pm me
2008-02-13 13:42 < slashem> ok thx
2008-02-13 13:42 < NotACow> if i don't want to talk to you, i will simply not respond :)
2008-02-13 13:42 < slashem> understood :-)
2008-02-13 13:43 < TheWeasel> Heh, two souls have found each other.
2008-02-13 13:43 < slashem> hey Weasel
2008-02-13 13:43 < slashem> how are you today?
2008-02-13 13:44 < QuadCore> Hi all
2008-02-13 13:44 < Snowolf> hi QuadCore
2008-02-13 13:44 < QuadCore> I would like to know how to start a new wikipedia page
2008-02-13 13:44 < QuadCore> I mean a new language
2008-02-13 13:44 < QuadCore> mylanguage.wikipedia.org for example
2008-02-13 13:44 < Gracenotes> QuadCore: which language?
2008-02-13 13:45 < QuadCore> A language that is not listed there. An african language, Dioula.
2008-02-13 13:46 < Gracenotes> QuadCore: the process is to first propose it on Meta, then start a test wiki on http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, then move to your own subdomain once it's sufficiently developed
2008-02-13 13:46 < Gracenotes> see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages
2008-02-13 13:47 < katpatuka> TheWeasel: uz.wiki is blocked since 10th of january
2008-02-13 13:47 < QuadCore> Thank you for your help.
2008-02-13 13:50 < QuadCore> Gracenotes : So 1 - incubator 2 - put enough articles there 3- Then what ?
2008-02-13 13:51 < Trickz> is anyone alive?
2008-02-13 13:54 < Gracenotes> QuadCore: not quite sure what the criteria are for you to move to your own language.wikipedia.org domain
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