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2008-02-10 22:47 < MoIrc> Its called BRDGen
2008-02-10 22:48 < MoIrc> anyone have a PS3?
2008-02-10 22:48 < The359> yes
2008-02-10 22:48 < TimVickers> I feel so old :(
2008-02-10 22:48 < MoIrc> wat games???
2008-02-10 22:48 < The359> And it's one thing to be able to edit a file
2008-02-10 22:48 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 22:48 < The359> Another to actually know what to edit
2008-02-10 22:48 < The359> and how to edit it
2008-02-10 22:48 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 22:49 * The359 isn't seeing the lulz
2008-02-10 22:49 < MoIrc> yeah but if i could figure it all out i could possibly be a gaming god.
2008-02-10 22:49 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 22:49 < nokmar> he's definitely John Carmack
2008-02-10 22:50 < nokmar> we should bow down to his almighty game programming skills
2008-02-10 22:50 < The359> They only program because they actually suck at the normal game
2008-02-10 22:50 < MoIrc> I'm honestly not a real Hardcore gamer, but i just like to
2008-02-10 22:50 < MoIrc> take things apart
2008-02-10 22:50 < nokmar> not bungie devs
2008-02-10 22:50 < DoubleAW> oh wow, winehouse won the grammy
2008-02-10 22:51 < MoIrc> i like to see how things work
2008-02-10 22:51 < nokmar> bungie devs take the time they should be using to make good endings to play their games
2008-02-10 22:51 < MoIrc> bungie??
2008-02-10 22:52 < MoIrc> didn't they write halo?
2008-02-10 22:53 < Messedrocker> bungie used to be owned by apple!
2008-02-10 22:53 < Messedrocker> and yes they did
2008-02-10 22:53 < Cyrius> no, they didn't
2008-02-10 22:53 < nokmar> maybe John Carmack is so 1337 he doesn't even need to keep track of his environment
2008-02-10 22:53 < MoIrc> apple? really?
2008-02-10 22:53 < Cyrius> no, apple did not own bungie
2008-02-10 22:54 < MoIrc> i'll have to research that
2008-02-10 22:54 < Cyrius> they just made their first games for the mac
2008-02-10 22:55 < MoIrc> is it worth it to download halo??
2008-02-10 22:55 < Messedrocker> 2nd party developer
2008-02-10 22:55 < Messedrocker> so close enough
2008-02-10 22:56 < MoIrc> hello??
2008-02-10 22:56 < bumm13> ??
2008-02-10 22:56 < The359> I think they'd prefer if you paid for it, MoIrc
2008-02-10 22:56 < Messedrocker> hello moirc
2008-02-10 22:56 < MoIrc> hello
2008-02-10 22:56 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 22:56 < Messedrocker> though you CAN download Halo on your Xbox 360 for many many microsoft points
2008-02-10 22:57 < nokmar> well
2008-02-10 22:57 < MoIrc> no,. you -can- buy it online I'm sure
2008-02-10 22:57 < nokmar> here you go 1 minute without a response and think something's wrong
2008-02-10 22:58 < MoIrc> but still i could get it if i want. just gotta figure out how the ISO's and the cracks work for games
2008-02-10 22:59 < MoIrc> anyone have Call Of Duty 4 for PS3?
2008-02-10 23:02 < nokmar> PS3 can go online?
2008-02-10 23:02 < MoIrc> lmao
2008-02-10 23:02 < quanticle> nokmar: Of course it can.
2008-02-10 23:02 < nokmar> ooh.
2008-02-10 23:02 < MoIrc> shiat. you're killin me
2008-02-10 23:02 < Messedrocker> doesn't the PS3 have built-in wi-fi?
2008-02-10 23:02 < MoIrc> ya
2008-02-10 23:03 < Messedrocker> UNLIKE A CERTAIN CONSOLE MADE BY MICROSOFT
2008-02-10 23:03 < nokmar> haven't touched a PS3
2008-02-10 23:03 < The359> all the current systems do
2008-02-10 23:03 < Messedrocker> FORCING ME TO DISH OUT AN EXTRA HUNDRED DOLLARS D:<
2008-02-10 23:03 < The359> erm, right
2008-02-10 23:03 < The359> XBox does require an addon
2008-02-10 23:03 < Messedrocker> Xbox 360 too
2008-02-10 23:03 < nokmar> then why did you buy it?
2008-02-10 23:03 < MoIrc> the 360? really?
2008-02-10 23:03 < The359> I meant 360
2008-02-10 23:03 < CharlotteWebb> zomg rfa is, like, broken
2008-02-10 23:03 < quanticle> nokmar: Games. The XBox 360 has better games.
2008-02-10 23:03 < Messedrocker> CharlotteWebb, no dicks?
2008-02-10 23:04 < CharlotteWebb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Mind_meal
2008-02-10 23:04 < MoIrc> sure it does messedrocker
2008-02-10 23:04 < nokmar> lol edit summaries
2008-02-10 23:05 < MoIrc> hey can the ps3 and the 360 play on the same network so someone that has a playstation can play against a person who has the 360??
2008-02-10 23:05 < Messedrocker> hell no
2008-02-10 23:06 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 23:06 < Ceiling_Cat> sadly not
2008-02-10 23:06 < MoIrc> i didn't think so
2008-02-10 23:06 < Messedrocker> you think microsoft would in a billion years allow that?
2008-02-10 23:06 < nokmar> but why does he want people at his sandbox?
2008-02-10 23:06 < quanticle> MoIrc: They'll coexist on the same network, but they can't interact with one another.
2008-02-10 23:06 < Ceiling_Cat> Messedrocker - why should they have a choice?
2008-02-10 23:06 < The359> People on PC can't play against people on consoles either
2008-02-10 23:06 < CharlotteWebb> hehehe who is the ip
2008-02-10 23:06 < Ceiling_Cat> the console should be network agnostic
2008-02-10 23:06 < Ceiling_Cat> can you imagine if PCs were not OS agnostic?
2008-02-10 23:07 < MoIrc> dat'd be cool
2008-02-10 23:07 < bumm13> Windows-tosh
2008-02-10 23:07 < Ceiling_Cat> "Sorry, but this website runs linux. In order to view webpages served on this server, you must also be running Linux"
2008-02-10 23:07 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Nonsense. The reason people migrate to consoles is for integration. Forcing openness would turn the console into a glorified PC, with all the brokenness in games that entails.
2008-02-10 23:07 < MoIrc> i think linux can w/windos
2008-02-10 23:07 < MoIrc> windows*
2008-02-10 23:08 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: The entire reason I went to console games exclusively was because games manufacturers get it right the first time when releasing for consoles.
2008-02-10 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - I'm not saying we force openness. I'm saying that it should be network agnostic. That is, if a game-maker decides to make a PS3 and an Xbox version, there is no technical reason why they cannot run on the same gaming network and play each other
2008-02-10 23:08 < MoIrc> ya
2008-02-10 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> Blizzard does a wonderful example of getting Macs and PCs to play on battlenet
2008-02-10 23:08 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: That's true.
2008-02-10 23:09 < MoIrc> blizzard?
2008-02-10 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - everything I say is true :P
2008-02-10 23:09 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 23:09 < The359> One problem is that XBox requires a paid subscription to play games online
2008-02-10 23:09 < The359> PS3 does not
2008-02-10 23:09 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: However, one of the reasons that XBox live works so well is because Microsoft holds the servers...
2008-02-10 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - it requires it to play *ONLINE*, or it requires it to play using *MIcrosoft's* online service?
2008-02-10 23:09 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Sony holds the servers for their new online service as well.
2008-02-10 23:10 < The359> it requires to play a game online
2008-02-10 23:10 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: To play online at all, since all online games use XBox live.
2008-02-10 23:10 < Ceiling_Cat> again, there is no technical reason why you should be locked into the vendor's online gaming servers
2008-02-10 23:10 < The359> Just being online is free
2008-02-10 23:10 < MoIrc> you think home's gonna be cool?
2008-02-10 23:10 < quanticle> The359: That's why I like the PS3 more than the XBox 360 as a console. Better online support and better specs, even though it doesn't have the games (yet).
2008-02-10 23:11 < The359> yes
2008-02-10 23:11 < MoIrc> well...
2008-02-10 23:11 < MoIrc> i like warhawk and COD
2008-02-10 23:11 * Messedrocker is a Wii fanboy
2008-02-10 23:11 < MoIrc> they both kick some serious ass
2008-02-10 23:12 < quanticle> Also the PS3 games that are out tend to be of spotty quality. You have some gems, like Warhawk or Ratchet and Clank, and some that are hyped but really suck, like Lair.
2008-02-10 23:12 < quanticle> Messedrocker: I own a Wii
2008-02-10 23:12 * quanticle owns neither a XBox or a PS3
2008-02-10 23:12 * quanticle owns a Wii.
2008-02-10 23:12 < MoIrc> who is *?
2008-02-10 23:12 * Messedrocker got a Wii as a birthday present and bought his Xbox 360 with a paycheck and some more
2008-02-10 23:13 < quanticle> MoIrc: Type /me <verb> and see what happens
2008-02-10 23:13 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Nice.
2008-02-10 23:13 * MoIrc <verb>
2008-02-10 23:13 < quanticle> I'm waiting for PS3s to become affordable
2008-02-10 23:13 < MoIrc> llol
2008-02-10 23:13 < quanticle> MoIrc: Replace <verb> with a real verb
2008-02-10 23:14 < The359> for what you get, it is pretty affordable
2008-02-10 23:14 < MoIrc> ya i got that
2008-02-10 23:14 < The359> Full Blu-Ray player, free online, etc
2008-02-10 23:14 < quanticle> The359: Yeah. I'm waiting for some games to come out to make it worthwhile.
2008-02-10 23:14 < Messedrocker> well i don't feel a need for blu-ray yet
2008-02-10 23:14 < Messedrocker> i am content with DVD
2008-02-10 23:14 < MoIrc> yeah and with the blu-ray i can copy blu-ray movies too!
2008-02-10 23:14 < The359> I am too
2008-02-10 23:14 < The359> but I didn't buy the system
2008-02-10 23:14 < Messedrocker> the difference between DVD and Blu-ray Disc is small compared to the difference between VHS and DVD
2008-02-10 23:15 < MoIrc> ya
2008-02-10 23:15 * MoIrc run
2008-02-10 23:15 < MoIrc> what?
2008-02-10 23:15 < MoIrc> what does that do??
2008-02-10 23:15 < quanticle> The359: Also, I'm torn because some of my favorite genres have moved to the XBox 360. I play a lot of racing and flight sims and Ace Combat 6, Forza 2 and PGR4 have got me wanting a 360.
2008-02-10 23:16 < quanticle> MoIrc: /me is how you indicate that you're doing something.
2008-02-10 23:16 * Messedrocker maintains that the only true racing game is Mario Kart
2008-02-10 23:16 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Lies
2008-02-10 23:16 < Messedrocker> well, racing series of games
2008-02-10 23:16 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Diddy Kong Racing is where its at.
2008-02-10 23:16 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 23:16 < MoIrc> wth?
2008-02-10 23:16 < quanticle> Of course, the game that I'm waiting for is Super Smash Brawl.
2008-02-10 23:17 < Messedrocker> March 10, son
2008-02-10 23:17 < quanticle> Messedrocker: If it doesn't get pushed back again.
2008-02-10 23:17 < MoIrc> hey i loved super smash bros. when it first came out
2008-02-10 23:17 < quanticle> MoIrc: Have you played any of the later ones?
2008-02-10 23:17 < MoIrc> fo the nintendo 64
2008-02-10 23:17 < MoIrc> nooo... :9
2008-02-10 23:17 < quanticle> MoIrc: Melee was a wash, IMHO.
2008-02-10 23:18 < MoIrc> what does /me <verb> do?
2008-02-10 23:18 < quanticle> MoIrc: Let me demonstrate
2008-02-10 23:18 < quanticle> /me runs yields
2008-02-10 23:18 * quanticle runs
2008-02-10 23:18 < MoIrc> is there a IRC cheat sheet online??
2008-02-10 23:19 < quanticle> MoIrc: Well your client's help function should get you through the basics.
2008-02-10 23:19 < MoIrc> okay
2008-02-10 23:19 < MoIrc> isn't there a way to transfer documents through this too?
2008-02-10 23:19 < quanticle> MoIrc: After that, it kinda depends on which network you connect to. Different IRC networks have their own conventions.
2008-02-10 23:20 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: What client are you using?
2008-02-10 23:20 < MoIrc> conventions? dam can u tell im new?
2008-02-10 23:20 < quanticle> MoIrc: Yes, but a lot of people have that feature disabled, since it may be a security hole.
2008-02-10 23:20 * Enterprise_Cat is too lazy to run a CTCP VERSION
2008-02-10 23:20 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: His client might also block CTCP requests...
2008-02-10 23:20 < MoIrc> I have mIRC 2.02
2008-02-10 23:21 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: You use DCC to transfer documents
2008-02-10 23:21 < Enterprise_Cat> Try /help dcc
2008-02-10 23:21 < MoIrc> oh okay
2008-02-10 23:21 * MoIrc owns a kickazz ps3
2008-02-10 23:21 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 23:21 < MoIrc> okay
2008-02-10 23:22 < MoIrc> wth?
2008-02-10 23:22 < MoIrc> didn't work?
2008-02-10 23:22 < MoIrc> what happened to it?
2008-02-10 23:22 < quanticle> MoIrc: Help output usually goes to the status window.
2008-02-10 23:22 < quanticle> MoIrc: Try checking your other tabs
2008-02-10 23:24 < Leslie_S> hmm
2008-02-10 23:24 < Leslie_S> tomorrow i think im going to schedule a doctors appointment
2008-02-10 23:24 < Leslie_S> YAY YAY YAY YAY :D :D :D
2008-02-10 23:24 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Schedule a doctors appointment or go to a doctor?
2008-02-10 23:25 < Leslie_S> quanticle schedule one. i cant go without an appointment
2008-02-10 23:25 < MoIrc> private messages i need to register for?
2008-02-10 23:25 < Leslie_S> quanticle but i want scripts :D
2008-02-10 23:25 < quanticle> MoIrc: Have you registered your nickname?
2008-02-10 23:25 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Scripts?
2008-02-10 23:25 < Leslie_S> quanticle prescriptions. For drugs i'm already taking.
2008-02-10 23:26 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Ah. I didn't realize "scripts" was an abbreviation for prescription.
2008-02-10 23:26 < MoIrc> yeah i'm reading how to do that
2008-02-10 23:27 < Leslie_S> anyway, it'll let me get them cheaper, and will let me have an actual medical doctor do blood tests and tell me what dosage i should take.
2008-02-10 23:27 < quanticle> MoIrc: Freenode is big on registration. There are many channels here that won't even allow you to speak with an unregistered nickname.
2008-02-10 23:27 < Leslie_S> quanticle lots of networks have that.
2008-02-10 23:28 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Yeah. It does cut down on spamfloods somewhat.
2008-02-10 23:29 < MoIrc> where do I register it???
2008-02-10 23:29 < Leslie_S> ....... /msg nickserv help.
2008-02-10 23:29 < MoIrc> my status window???
2008-02-10 23:29 < Leslie_S> ...
2008-02-10 23:29 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: /ns help
2008-02-10 23:29 < quanticle> MoIrc: From any window, type /msg NickServ HELP
2008-02-10 23:29 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: /ns is better
2008-02-10 23:30 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat no its not.
2008-02-10 23:30 < Enterprise_Cat> and all new clients support it
2008-02-10 23:30 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat mirc doesnt.
2008-02-10 23:30 < Leslie_S> oh wait, it does.
2008-02-10 23:30 < MoIrc> ???
2008-02-10 23:30 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat irssi doesnt.
2008-02-10 23:30 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Right, but it kinda hides what you're doing. You're actually sending a message (msg) to NickServ asking for HELP.
2008-02-10 23:30 < Enterprise_Cat> /ns is better because what you type (such as a password) does not appear in the chat window like /msg whows it
2008-02-10 23:30 < MoIrc> im not using irssi
2008-02-10 23:30 * Leslie_S sighs.
2008-02-10 23:31 < Leslie_S> wow, it shows a password on your screen. thats so horrible
2008-02-10 23:31 < Enterprise_Cat> :P and they say ChatZilla sucks
2008-02-10 23:31 < Leslie_S> its not like its hard to intercept an irc password anyway.
2008-02-10 23:31 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat excuse me? irssi does not suck.
2008-02-10 23:31 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: I can keep irssi open on a screen session for weeks on end. Can chatzilla do that?
2008-02-10 23:31 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: Yes
2008-02-10 23:31 < Leslie_S> what a fucking idiot.
2008-02-10 23:31 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Even with you logged out?
2008-02-10 23:32 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: Yes
2008-02-10 23:32 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat how?
2008-02-10 23:32 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: How do you do that with a GUI program, pray tell?
2008-02-10 23:32 < Enterprise_Cat> /disconnect
2008-02-10 23:32 < Enterprise_Cat> instead of /quit
2008-02-10 23:32 < artfullylost> Leslie_S : Get fired yet?
2008-02-10 23:32 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: chazilla = attached to firefox = memory leaks in windowa
2008-02-10 23:32 < Leslie_S> ....
2008-02-10 23:32 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: I mean with you logged out of your computer.
2008-02-10 23:32 < Leslie_S> sigh.
2008-02-10 23:32 < Enterprise_Cat> Yes
2008-02-10 23:32 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat how?
2008-02-10 23:32 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Logged out of Windows, even.
2008-02-10 23:33 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Chatzilla closes with Firefox.
2008-02-10 23:33 < Leslie_S> hell, i can have irssi in a screen session on irc while my comptuer is off!
2008-02-10 23:33 < Enterprise_Cat> Leslie_S: Run it as NETWORK SERVICE instead of your local account
2008-02-10 23:33 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Ewww.
2008-02-10 23:33 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat what if im on linux?
2008-02-10 23:33 < Enterprise_Cat> Run it as ROOT
2008-02-10 23:33 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Chatzilla works under Linux.
2008-02-10 23:33 < Leslie_S> Enterprise_Cat even then, i cant turn my computer off.
2008-02-10 23:33 < Leslie_S> quanticle no shit.
2008-02-10 23:33 < Leslie_S> quanticle ive USED IT under linux.
2008-02-10 23:34 < quanticle> I rather dislike Chatzilla. Call me an old command line hack, but I like irssi's keyboard shortcuts.
2008-02-10 23:34 < quanticle> Also, I'm a HUGE screen addict.
2008-02-10 23:34 < quanticle> Screen is the most useful Unix program I've come across...
2008-02-10 23:34 < Enterprise_Cat> heh
2008-02-10 23:34 < Enterprise_Cat> I have a few dozen kb shortcuts on ChatZilla
2008-02-10 23:36 < Enterprise_Cat> Also, since ChatZilla and Firefox are one process, it lowers the Windows commit charge
2008-02-10 23:36 < Enterprise_Cat> Which in turn leads to better multitasking performance
2008-02-10 23:38 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Again, not an issue on Linux.
2008-02-10 23:38 < MoIrc> okay i just typed in the code to set my password and email
2008-02-10 23:38 < MoIrc> hello?
2008-02-10 23:38 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: Go tell me how many people use Linux compared to Windows
2008-02-10 23:39 < MoIrc> did it display what i wrote?
2008-02-10 23:39 < quanticle> MoIrc: Yeah, we read you.
2008-02-10 23:39 < MoIrc> damn
2008-02-10 23:39 < MoIrc> you can see the password then?
2008-02-10 23:39 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: A million people doing a stupid thing does not make it any less stupid
2008-02-10 23:40 < quanticle> MoIrc: No. I don't see your password.
2008-02-10 23:40 < The359> I do!
2008-02-10 23:40 < MoIrc> okay?
2008-02-10 23:40 < quanticle> MoIrc: Your password is sent as a private message to NickServ.
2008-02-10 23:40 < MoIrc> WTF?
2008-02-10 23:41 < quanticle> The359: Stop messing with the n00bs.
2008-02-10 23:41 < MoIrc> so The359 is full of shit then?
2008-02-10 23:41 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 23:41 < MoIrc> dam
2008-02-10 23:41 < Cyrius> http://www.bash.org/?244321
2008-02-10 23:41 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: A million people still use it, however, no matter how stupid may be
2008-02-10 23:41 < quanticle> MoIrc: Yep.
2008-02-10 23:42 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Doesn't mean you have to be one of them.
2008-02-10 23:42 < Enterprise_Cat> /it/ may be
2008-02-10 23:42 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Don't you mean how stupid it *is*.
2008-02-10 23:42 < Enterprise_Cat> I am one of them, even though my computer is dual boot Windows/Linux, I rarely use the Linux part
2008-02-10 23:42 < MoIrc> how'd you get linux?
2008-02-10 23:42 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: Let me know when you can play Battlefield 2142 on a Linux machine
2008-02-10 23:42 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Well, as a programmer, I don't think I could ever go back to Windows.
2008-02-10 23:42 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Ah. Touche.
2008-02-10 23:43 < quanticle> MoIrc: From the internet.
2008-02-10 23:43 * Enterprise_Cat uses Ubuntu
2008-02-10 23:43 < quanticle> MoIrc: Check out www.ubuntu.com
2008-02-10 23:43 < MoIrc> free?
2008-02-10 23:43 * quanticle runs Fedora
2008-02-10 23:43 < quanticle> MoIrc: How could it not be?
2008-02-10 23:43 < MoIrc> fedora?
2008-02-10 23:43 < quanticle> MoIrc: Its a Linux distribution.
2008-02-10 23:43 < quanticle> MoIrc: Just like Ubuntu.
2008-02-10 23:44 < MoIrc> well i had to pay for widows
2008-02-10 23:44 < quanticle> MoIrc: Both are free, but I'd recommend Ubuntu. Its easier on beginners.
2008-02-10 23:44 < MoIrc> how's linux better?
2008-02-10 23:44 < quanticle> More secure.
2008-02-10 23:44 < quanticle> Easier to program for.
2008-02-10 23:44 < quanticle> More stable.
2008-02-10 23:44 < Leslie_S> harder to use
2008-02-10 23:44 < Leslie_S> less evil
2008-02-10 23:44 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Well, not so much more difficult to use nowadays.
2008-02-10 23:45 < Leslie_S> harder to get help with when you have a random odd problem
2008-02-10 23:45 < MoIrc> like what?
2008-02-10 23:45 < Leslie_S> like what what?
2008-02-10 23:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Isn't that what IRC channels are for? ;)
2008-02-10 23:45 < The359> less for amateurs
2008-02-10 23:45 < Leslie_S> quanticle people on irc channels are assholes. even more so on linux irc channels.
2008-02-10 23:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Heh. I agree.
2008-02-10 23:45 < MoIrc> okay
2008-02-10 23:45 * quanticle is on #fedora right now
2008-02-10 23:45 < MoIrc> wats the point registering??
2008-02-10 23:46 < Leslie_S> .........
2008-02-10 23:46 < MoIrc> seriously
2008-02-10 23:47 < quanticle> MoIrc: Well, you can receive private messages.
2008-02-10 23:47 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: So no one can steal your nickname
2008-02-10 23:47 < quanticle> MoIrc: And, you can talk on channels that require registration.
2008-02-10 23:48 < Leslie_S> and you can get access to channels
2008-02-10 23:48 < Leslie_S> as in, you can be a channel operator
2008-02-10 23:48 < Leslie_S> and you can even make your own
2008-02-10 23:48 < MoIrc> how do i do that?
2008-02-10 23:49 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: A demonstration on operators in my channel: ##fastlizard4
2008-02-10 23:49 < Leslie_S> i really dont have time to explain it.. i need to go to bed in a few minutes.
2008-02-10 23:49 < quanticle> MoIrc: Well, Freenode creates a channel if you try to connect to a channel that doesn't exist.
2008-02-10 23:49 < quanticle> MoIrc: However that channel disappears when you disconnect.
2008-02-10 23:49 < Leslie_S> quanticle you dont connect to channels, you join them.
2008-02-10 23:50 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Sorry. Join.
2008-02-10 23:50 < quanticle> MoIrc: Registering a channel makes it permanent.
2008-02-10 23:50 < Leslie_S> "permanent" to some extent
2008-02-10 23:50 < Leslie_S> anyway, night!
2008-02-10 23:50 < quanticle> MoIrc: But only registered nicknames can register channels.
2008-02-10 23:50 < quanticle> Bye Leslie_S
2008-02-10 23:50 < Enterprise_Cat> 'night Leslie_S :)
2008-02-10 23:51 < MoIrc> right
2008-02-10 23:53 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Also, if you are registered, you can get a host cloak
2008-02-10 23:53 < MoIrc> wats that?
2008-02-10 23:53 < quanticle> MoIrc: do a /whois quanticle
2008-02-10 23:53 < Enterprise_Cat> If I run a WHOIS on you (/whois), I can tell you this:
2008-02-10 23:54 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Your IP is 66.214.120.41
2008-02-10 23:54 < uberpenguin> bahaha... Frylock: "Goddamn wikipedia!"
2008-02-10 23:54 < Enterprise_Cat> You probably live in California
2008-02-10 23:54 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: And you probably use charter
2008-02-10 23:54 < privatemusings> just out of interest - what does my IP say about me?
2008-02-10 23:54 < MoIrc> how do you get all that?
2008-02-10 23:54 < privatemusings> I've always wondered how that stuff works....
2008-02-10 23:54 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Whois
2008-02-10 23:54 < MoIrc> okay
2008-02-10 23:55 < MoIrc> wat do I type?
2008-02-10 23:55 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Your host is "66-214-120-41.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com"
2008-02-10 23:55 < Enterprise_Cat> And that told me all that
2008-02-10 23:55 * Rinn huffs
2008-02-10 23:55 < Rinn> Illinois is cold.
2008-02-10 23:55 < Enterprise_Cat> /whois
2008-02-10 23:55 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: You use irssi right?
2008-02-10 23:55 < Rinn> And icey.
2008-02-10 23:55 < Enterprise_Cat> quanticle: No
2008-02-10 23:55 < Enterprise_Cat> Not usually, at least
2008-02-10 23:55 < quanticle> Enterprise_Cat: Oh. Right, you use Chatzilla.
2008-02-10 23:55 < quanticle> Does anyone here use irssi?
2008-02-10 23:55 < MoIrc> I have it
2008-02-10 23:55 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: However, if you do the same thing to me, you will find my host is "wikipedia/FastLizard4", instead of "n-n-n-n.pool.west.verizon.net"
2008-02-10 23:56 < Enterprise_Cat> "wikipedia/FastLizard4
2008-02-10 23:56 < Enterprise_Cat> is my cloak
2008-02-10 23:56 < MoIrc> It's not coming up with anything at all
2008-02-10 23:56 < Enterprise_Cat> It hides my host (and my IP address), and it links my IRC nickname with my Wikipedia username, FastLizard4
2008-02-10 23:56 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: You have to specify a nickname to whois, for example, /whois Enterprise_Cat
2008-02-10 23:57 < MoIrc> I wrote "/whois Enterprise
2008-02-10 23:57 < MoIrc> oh okay
2008-02-10 23:57 < Enterprise_Cat> Full nick
2008-02-10 23:57 < MoIrc> lol
2008-02-10 23:57 < MoIrc> yeah
2008-02-10 23:57 * MoIrc dipshit
2008-02-10 23:58 < MoIrc> still nothing
2008-02-10 23:58 < Enterprise_Cat> This is what I see:
2008-02-10 23:58 < Enterprise_Cat> /whois MoIrc
2008-02-10 23:58 < MoIrc> well idk
2008-02-10 23:58 < Enterprise_Cat> [20:58:37] === MoIrc <n=mo_irc@66-214-120-41.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com> “Mo Irc”
2008-02-10 23:58 < Enterprise_Cat> === MoIrc: member of #wikipedia
2008-02-10 23:58 < Enterprise_Cat> === MoIrc: attached to irc.freenode.net “http://freenode.net/”
2008-02-10 23:58 < Enterprise_Cat> --- End of WHOIS information for MoIrc.
2008-02-10 23:59 < MoIrc> .....hmmm
2008-02-10 23:59 < Enterprise_Cat> I don't want to show what it does on me because I would be really flooding the channel
2008-02-11 00:00 < MoIrc> ya i'm a stupid shit
2008-02-11 00:00 < MoIrc> it's in my status window
2008-02-11 00:01 < MoIrc> quanticle is cloaked too
2008-02-11 00:01 < MoIrc> huh
2008-02-11 00:01 < Enterprise_Cat> mmhmm
2008-02-11 00:02 < MoIrc> can people read the same thing about me if i'm just browsing the internet?
2008-02-11 00:02 < quanticle> MoIrc: Well certainly they can get your hostname and IP.
2008-02-11 00:02 < Enterprise_Cat> Depends
2008-02-11 00:02 < MoIrc> HOW?
2008-02-11 00:02 < Enterprise_Cat> privatemusings: I am scanning your IP address, let's see what it says about you
2008-02-11 00:02 < MoIrc> can they get the hspr.ca part?
2008-02-11 00:03 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Yes
2008-02-11 00:03 < MoIrc> holy shit
2008-02-11 00:03 < privatemusings> i just found a page which told me the IP is Asia Pacific, probably Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
2008-02-11 00:03 < yao_ziyuan> 8-)
2008-02-11 00:03 < Enterprise_Cat> privatemusings: Your IP is 124.171.31.203, you probably live in Australia, stand by while I run further tests
2008-02-11 00:03 < MoIrc> how do I shadow my IP?
2008-02-11 00:03 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: You don't on IRC
2008-02-11 00:03 < Enterprise_Cat> You get a cloak
2008-02-11 00:04 < proppi> or a bnc
2008-02-11 00:04 < MoIrc> ya i mean simply browsing the net?
2008-02-11 00:04 < MoIrc> I have zone alarm,
2008-02-11 00:04 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Oh, browsing the internet, you get a proxy
2008-02-11 00:04 < MoIrc> and my nerd friend told me ZA would shadow
2008-02-11 00:05 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Your nerd friend is an idiot
2008-02-11 00:05 < Enterprise_Cat> ZA is a firewall
2008-02-11 00:05 < MoIrc> hehhe
2008-02-11 00:05 < MoIrc> how do I get a proxy
2008-02-11 00:05 < Enterprise_Cat> ...go to a proxy site, there are dozens
2008-02-11 00:05 < Enterprise_Cat> Get anonymizer
2008-02-11 00:05 < Enterprise_Cat> Or...
2008-02-11 00:05 < Enterprise_Cat> Get Tor
2008-02-11 00:06 < Enterprise_Cat> privatemusings: Statistics for 124.171.31.203
2008-02-11 00:06 < MoIrc> he told me i wouldn't get caught using torrents if I had ZA cuz it will
2008-02-11 00:06 < Enterprise_Cat> Packets : sent = 4, received = 4, lost = 0 (loss 0%)
2008-02-11 00:06 < Enterprise_Cat> Approximative elapsed time in milliseconds
2008-02-11 00:06 < Enterprise_Cat> Minimum = 198 ms, Maximum = 238 ms, Average = 209 ms
2008-02-11 00:06 < privatemusings> you pinged me!
2008-02-11 00:06 < privatemusings> and i didn't feel a thing!
2008-02-11 00:06 < MoIrc> wat's ping?
2008-02-11 00:06 < privatemusings> like a submarine
2008-02-11 00:07 < privatemusings> (helps to say it out loud - ping!)
2008-02-11 00:07 < Enterprise_Cat> Now running a portscan on privatemusings - you may get a firewall alarm
2008-02-11 00:07 < privatemusings> should I bend over? ;-)
2008-02-11 00:08 < MoIrc> is anonymizer trustworthy?
2008-02-11 00:08 < MoIrc> does it install spyware?
2008-02-11 00:08 < Enterprise_Cat> MoIrc: Get SiteAdvisor
2008-02-11 00:08 < Enterprise_Cat> That way you will know if a program installs spyware
2008-02-11 00:08 < MoIrc> oh okay
2008-02-11 00:08 < MoIrc> is it freware also?
2008-02-11 00:08 < Enterprise_Cat> No
2008-02-11 00:09 < Enterprise_Cat> privatemusings: Your firewall go nuts yet?
2008-02-11 00:09 < MoIrc> why?
2008-02-11 00:09 < privatemusings> nope. i may be rather... er... undressed..?
2008-02-11 00:09 < MoIrc> what are you doing to alert his firewall?
2008-02-11 00:09 < privatemusings> he's portscanning me
2008-02-11 00:09 < MoIrc> wat's that?
2008-02-11 00:10 < Enterprise_Cat> zOMG!
2008-02-11 00:10 < MoIrc> i need to take notes!
2008-02-11 00:10 < privatemusings> you scan the ports, silly!
2008-02-11 00:10 < Enterprise_Cat> Checking for open ports on his PC
2008-02-11 00:10 < MoIrc> wats that mean?
2008-02-11 00:10 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-02-11 00:10 < Enterprise_Cat> Wow, I'm scanning 1- 66566
2008-02-11 00:10 < Enterprise_Cat> This may take a little while...
2008-02-11 00:10 * Ceiling_Cat steals Enterprise_Cat's innocence while he's distracted
2008-02-11 00:10 * Enterprise_Cat will be back with the results after dinner
2008-02-11 00:10 < privatemusings> i didn't even know i had over sixty five thousand ports....
2008-02-11 00:11 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - every modern PC has 65536 ports
2008-02-11 00:11 < MoIrc> wow
2008-02-11 00:11 < Ceiling_Cat> that's the nature of TCP
2008-02-11 00:11 < privatemusings> actually i've got 65537
2008-02-11 00:11 < privatemusings> got a special extra one.
2008-02-11 00:11 < privatemusings> sshhh
2008-02-11 00:11 < FastLizard4|Food> Oh, scanning to 65535
2008-02-11 00:11 < FastLizard4|Food> Those last 2 ports are lucky
2008-02-11 00:11 < MoIrc> oh...
2008-02-11 00:12 < MoIrc> but site advisor's McAfee
2008-02-11 00:12 < FastLizard4|Food> I have the timeout set to 10ms, so it may not see all open ports
2008-02-11 00:12 < MoIrc> i don't want mcafee
2008-02-11 00:12 < FastLizard4|Food> MoIrc: No shit
2008-02-11 00:12 < FastLizard4|Food> MoIrc: It makes your computer safer
2008-02-11 00:12 * FastLizard4|Food goes to eat dinner and watch an episode of Star Trek
2008-02-11 00:12 < FastLizard4|Food> privatemusings: Will be back with those results in a little while
2008-02-11 00:12 < MoIrc> hey if i scan an install executable before i install will it fish out spyware?
2008-02-11 00:13 < FastLizard4|Food> MoIrc: /yes!/
2008-02-11 00:13 < privatemusings> no worries liz.... thanks!
2008-02-11 00:13 < OverlordQ> sometimes
2008-02-11 00:13 < MoIrc> only sometimes?
2008-02-11 00:13 < OverlordQ> there's no guarantee
2008-02-11 00:13 < OverlordQ> there is always ways around detection
2008-02-11 00:13 < MoIrc> is there another program that -isnt- mcafee?
2008-02-11 00:14 < MoIrc> because someone told me mcafee was just a copy of another program
2008-02-11 00:14 < MoIrc> i think -norton-?
2008-02-11 00:14 < MoIrc> am i right?
2008-02-11 00:15 < quanticle> MoIrc: Well, what sort of detection?
2008-02-11 00:15 < MoIrc> what?
2008-02-11 00:16 < MoIrc> quanticle: what are you asking?
2008-02-11 00:17 < MoIrc> are proxy servers legal?
2008-02-11 00:17 < quanticle> MoIrc: I'm sorry, that question should have gone to OverlordQ
2008-02-11 00:18 < MoIrc> well
2008-02-11 00:18 < MoIrc> OverlordQ: are proxys illegal?
2008-02-11 00:19 < MoIrc> ....
2008-02-11 00:19 < Axeman> .....
2008-02-11 00:19 < privatemusings> hey mo - no, course they're not....
2008-02-11 00:20 < Axeman> Private musings!
2008-02-11 00:20 < Axeman> Holy freakin' crap!
2008-02-11 00:20 < privatemusings> axeman!
2008-02-11 00:20 < privatemusings> shhh...
2008-02-11 00:20 < privatemusings> everyone will want some.
2008-02-11 00:20 < Axeman> aren't you, like, that guy who got banned or something?
2008-02-11 00:20 < privatemusings> unfortunately yes..
2008-02-11 00:20 < Axeman> ah
2008-02-11 00:20 < Axeman> likewise
2008-02-11 00:21 < privatemusings> oh dear! - how come?
2008-02-11 00:21 * Ceiling_Cat re-reads the privatemusings arbcom decision
2008-02-11 00:21 < Axeman> privatemusings: damned if I know :P
2008-02-11 00:21 < MoIrc> quanticle: is there another channel where i can get answers to stupid questions like this besides this one when absolutly everyone is off thier computers?
2008-02-11 00:22 < Axeman> MoIrc: #freenode
2008-02-11 00:22 < MoIrc> how do i get there?
2008-02-11 00:22 < MoIrc> i dont know this program yet
2008-02-11 00:22 < Axeman> er
2008-02-11 00:23 < Axeman> ctcp MoIrc version
2008-02-11 00:23 < Axeman> whoops
2008-02-11 00:23 < Axeman> okay wtf
2008-02-11 00:23 < privatemusings> are you user:axeman, axeman?
2008-02-11 00:23 < Axeman> privatemusings: no
2008-02-11 00:23 < privatemusings> hence my confusion! - do you mind saying who you are?
2008-02-11 00:24 < MoIrc> privatemusings: how is Enterprise_cat portscanning you?
2008-02-11 00:24 < Axeman> top sekrit
2008-02-11 00:24 < twobitsprite> ahh... I love trolling on wikipedia... people get so up tight about it :)
2008-02-11 00:24 < Axeman> hahahahaha
2008-02-11 00:24 < Axeman> wow...
2008-02-11 00:24 < Axeman> I lol'd hard,
2008-02-11 00:24 < twobitsprite> :)
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> MoIrc - "how"?
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> as in, what software is he using?
2008-02-11 00:25 < privatemusings> he's using a port scanner
2008-02-11 00:25 < MoIrc> yes
2008-02-11 00:25 < twobitsprite> its even better though when people don't notice that you're trolling and go along with you.. "yeah great edits!" when it's complete bs :)
2008-02-11 00:25 < MoIrc> like???
2008-02-11 00:25 < Axeman> Ceiling_Cat: CTCP version does nothing
2008-02-11 00:25 * quanticle goes to bed
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> if he uses any unix distro, he's using ...
2008-02-11 00:25 < nokmar> ...
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> oh shit, what's it called
2008-02-11 00:25 * Axeman hugs quanticle
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> netscan?
2008-02-11 00:25 < privatemusings> g'night quant...
2008-02-11 00:25 < Axeman> today was nothing
2008-02-11 00:25 < Axeman> absolutely nothing
2008-02-11 00:25 < quanticle|away> Ceiling_Cat: you mean nmap?
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> netmap?
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> nmap
2008-02-11 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> thank you
2008-02-11 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> I couldn't think of that damn name
2008-02-11 00:26 < Axeman> I woke up, felt crappy, and fell asleep
2008-02-11 00:26 < MoIrc> netscan?
2008-02-11 00:26 < Axeman> when I woke up, it was 9 PM
2008-02-11 00:26 < Axeman> and felt kinda sick
2008-02-11 00:26 < Axeman> and then farted for, like, an hour straight
2008-02-11 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> temporary brain far there
2008-02-11 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> fart*
2008-02-11 00:26 < Axeman> and decided to watch anime for 4 hours
2008-02-11 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> oh shit
2008-02-11 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> I was worried for a second
2008-02-11 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DE6D81539F932A05752C0A962958260
2008-02-11 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> I thought that was a different Mary Mooreman
2008-02-11 00:27 < MoIrc> is that the scanner?
2008-02-11 00:27 < privatemusings> that article is from 94 too....
2008-02-11 00:27 < Axeman> I finally get something to download.
2008-02-11 00:27 < Axeman> It's subbed *and* dubbed, downloaded off torrents in about an hour, full series, plays fine, ripped straight from DVD
2008-02-11 00:27 < Axeman> well, guess what
2008-02-11 00:27 < privatemusings> bit late for an 'oh shit!'
2008-02-11 00:27 < Axeman> it sucks
2008-02-11 00:27 < Axeman> like, seriously... it's the most stupid show ever
2008-02-11 00:28 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - she's basically the last eye-witness to the kennedy assassination
2008-02-11 00:28 < Axeman> ZOMFG
2008-02-11 00:28 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Mary Moorman]]
2008-02-11 00:28 < Axeman> You know what?
2008-02-11 00:28 < Axeman> What if the Internet was invented in 1920?
2008-02-11 00:28 < privatemusings> there must be more, surely?
2008-02-11 00:28 < Axeman> I wonder.
2008-02-11 00:28 < yao_ziyuan> the end of civilization is that
2008-02-11 00:28 < Axeman> Or even in, like, 1500
2008-02-11 00:28 < Ceiling_Cat> Every riding the car is dead
2008-02-11 00:28 < Ceiling_Cat> everyone*
2008-02-11 00:28 < yao_ziyuan> the humankind enters an infinite process of innovation
2008-02-11 00:29 < yao_ziyuan> where everyone is highly capable of innovation
2008-02-11 00:29 < Ceiling_Cat> so is Jean Hill, the person whom she was standing next to
2008-02-11 00:29 < Axeman> "Forsooth, lorde! Hast thou seene Two Maidens One Goblet?"
2008-02-11 00:29 < Gracenotes_away> Axeman: you know, there is a somewhat-implied need to keep the discussion of this channel remotely related to #wikipedia :)
2008-02-11 00:29 < yao_ziyuan> and because science is an infinite enterprise,
2008-02-11 00:29 < Gracenotes_away> Pointless rambling -> #defocus, plz
2008-02-11 00:29 < privatemusings> i smell a consipiracy....!
2008-02-11 00:29 < Rinn> Gracenotes_away: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2008-02-11 00:29 < privatemusings> consipracy....
2008-02-11 00:29 < Axeman> Mh.
2008-02-11 00:29 < Gracenotes_away> Rinn: hush, heckler
2008-02-11 00:29 < Axeman> CONSPIRACY?
2008-02-11 00:29 < privatemusings> no
2008-02-11 00:29 < yao_ziyuan> eventually innovation will be a commodity.
2008-02-11 00:29 < Axeman> IN MY WIKIPEDIA?
2008-02-11 00:29 < privatemusings> consipracy.
2008-02-11 00:29 < Axeman> It's more likely then you think!
2008-02-11 00:29 < privatemusings> it's where a bunch of folk get together and sip stuff
2008-02-11 00:29 < Rinn> Can't spell conspiracy without piracy. COINCIDENCE?
2008-02-11 00:29 * Mike_H pets privatemusings :DD
2008-02-11 00:29 < MoIrc> lolol
2008-02-11 00:30 * Axeman O_o at nokmar
2008-02-11 00:30 * Axeman lols
2008-02-11 00:30 * privatemusings waves at mike
2008-02-11 00:31 < Axeman> 1337 = elite, 1338 = elibe, 1339 = elige
2008-02-11 00:32 < MoIrc> how do i cloak here?
2008-02-11 00:32 < Axeman> No, John.
2008-02-11 00:33 < Axeman> YOU ARE THE DEMONS.
2008-02-11 00:33 < Gracenotes_away> MoIrc: on freenode?
2008-02-11 00:33 < Gracenotes_away> register MoIrc; register another nick; link the two.
2008-02-11 00:33 < MoIrc> on irc?
2008-02-11 00:33 < MoIrc> ???
2008-02-11 00:33 < Gracenotes_away> then ask for it on #freenode
2008-02-11 00:34 < Gracenotes_away> :<