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2008-02-10 01:45 < slashem> sigh
2008-02-10 01:45 < slashem> this is wikipedia
2008-02-10 01:45 < TheWeasel> Et puis?
2008-02-10 01:45 < slashem> you can't imagine some other author came along and made some kind of fix that was an error?
2008-02-10 01:46 < ceil420> i'm pointing out the error so that someone that does know how to fix articles can do so
2008-02-10 01:46 < ceil420> i've never edited anything on Wikipedia
2008-02-10 01:46 < TheWeasel> ceil420: About time then
2008-02-10 01:46 < slashem> well, I'm not going to take the time to figure out if the lunar year of the Ox actually lasted from Feb 3 to Jan 22
2008-02-10 01:46 < slashem> maybe someone else will
2008-02-10 01:46 < ceil420> it's the Lunar Month of the Ox, not the Year
2008-02-10 01:46 < ceil420> TheWeasel, s'pose you're right :o
2008-02-10 01:46 < slashem> that isn't what the title of the article says
2008-02-10 01:47 < TheWeasel> I fink this leads nowhere.
2008-02-10 01:47 < slashem> truly, this is ridiculous
2008-02-10 01:47 < ceil420> the title of the article is Ox_(zodiac), not Year_of_the_Ox
2008-02-10 01:47 < slashem> do whatever you want
2008-02-10 01:47 < Ceiling_Cat> One of Hübener's local church leaders, Otto Berndt, was sympathetic to Hübener, and was suspected of having assisted and encouraged the boy. Berndt was questioned and released with an ominous warning: "after Jews, Mormons will be next." Hübener was posthumously reinstated in the LDS Church in 1946, with the note "excommunicated by mistake."[1]
2008-02-10 01:47 < slashem> I don't really care
2008-02-10 01:47 < TheWeasel> Wow, I didn't know there were any German Mormons.
2008-02-10 01:48 < Ceiling_Cat> apparently so
2008-02-10 01:49 < TheWeasel> Well, all churches were consolidated
2008-02-10 01:49 < TheWeasel> so it can't have been anything official
2008-02-10 01:49 < ceil420> hey, that editing thing was relatively painless :o
2008-02-10 01:49 < ceil420> i'm only bleeding a little :)
2008-02-10 01:49 < TheWeasel> Well done.
2008-02-10 01:50 < TheWeasel> Don't use aspirin, it makes the bleeding worse.
2008-02-10 01:50 < ceil420> i'll keep that in mind :p
2008-02-10 01:50 * TheWeasel looks around
2008-02-10 01:50 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-02-10 01:50 < Ceiling_Cat> huh? Asprin is a vasodilator
2008-02-10 01:51 < Ceiling_Cat> it decreases blood pressure and reduces bleeding
2008-02-10 01:52 < TheWeasel> It does?
2008-02-10 01:52 < TheWeasel> There was *something* that made bleeding worse
2008-02-10 01:52 < TheWeasel> So, eat loads of aspirin.
2008-02-10 01:52 < ceil420> heh
2008-02-10 01:53 < Messedrocker> too much aspirin can cause ulcers
2008-02-10 01:53 < TheWeasel> right
2008-02-10 01:54 < Not_the_NSA> NETSPLIT!
2008-02-10 01:54 < Ceiling_Cat> that is true - salacylic acid is bad for the stomach
2008-02-10 01:54 * Not_the_NSA huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-10 01:54 < Ceiling_Cat> and sidenote - acetyl-salacitlic acid is used to kill warts. It BURNS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER if you get it in an open wound.
2008-02-10 01:54 < TheWeasel> Apparently LDS has 35.000 members in Germany
2008-02-10 01:54 < TheWeasel> wow
2008-02-10 01:54 < Not_the_NSA> night
2008-02-10 01:55 < TheWeasel> (with 35% active)
2008-02-10 01:55 < Ceiling_Cat> erm, wait
2008-02-10 01:55 < Ceiling_Cat> I think I have that backwards
2008-02-10 01:55 < TheWeasel> It produces warts?
2008-02-10 01:56 < Ceiling_Cat> acetylsalicilic acid is asprin; salicilic acid is used to kill warts
2008-02-10 01:56 < TheWeasel> Oh.
2008-02-10 01:57 < TheWeasel> the lethal dose of ASA is 200 mg/kg
2008-02-10 01:58 < TheWeasel> that's a wheelbarrow.
2008-02-10 01:58 < TheWeasel> that's about 14 gram in my case.
2008-02-10 01:59 < TheWeasel> but then I've never heard of any suicide attempt with aspirin
2008-02-10 01:59 < TheWeasel> I've heard of abortion attempts with lemon candy though
2008-02-10 01:59 < TheWeasel> interesting criminal law problem
2008-02-10 02:00 < Ceiling_Cat> "Topical acids can also be a useful means of treating warts. The advantage to this form of treatment is the fact that they are nearly painless and there is no restriction of activity. "
2008-02-10 02:00 < Ceiling_Cat> LIES!
2008-02-10 02:00 * brown_cat mind rapes Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-10 02:01 < TheWeasel> Ceiling_Cat: Yer just chicken.
2008-02-10 02:01 * Ceiling_Cat does horrible things with brown_cat's right eye socket
2008-02-10 02:01 < Enterprise_Cat> OMG
2008-02-10 02:01 * a_cat does horrible things with brown_cat's left eye socket
2008-02-10 02:01 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-02-10 02:02 * Enterprise_Cat shoots a_cat in defense of brown_cat
2008-02-10 02:02 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-02-10 02:02 < Ceiling_Cat> more like x_x
2008-02-10 02:02 * slashem squick squick squick
2008-02-10 02:03 < Lubaf> Exalted: The RPG that has dinosaurs pissing heroin as a side note.
2008-02-10 02:03 < Lubaf> How do you top that?
2008-02-10 02:03 < Lubaf> (A minor side note, but one that gets mentioned a lot as one of the... odder features of the setting.)
2008-02-10 02:03 < NotAPolecat> The RPG where you *are* a heroin pissing dinosaur?
2008-02-10 02:04 * brown_cat milks Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-10 02:04 < Lubaf> NotAPolecat: Nope.
2008-02-10 02:04 < Ceiling_Cat> NotAPolecat - Heroin Hero, Dinosaur edition?
2008-02-10 02:05 < Lubaf> They're domesticated, and thus, from the perspective of an RPG, uninteresting.
2008-02-10 02:05 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.gamegum.com/game/1857/heroin-hero/
2008-02-10 02:05 < Lubaf> But still... dinosaurs pissing heroin.
2008-02-10 02:05 < NotAPolecat> hehe
2008-02-10 02:05 < slashem> what game function does this heroin have, I wonder?
2008-02-10 02:05 < NotAPolecat> A gratuitous one, I reckon.
2008-02-10 02:05 < a_cat> why are there a lot of cats in this channel?
2008-02-10 02:05 * Ceiling_Cat breaks out into a chorus of R. Kelly's "I'm gonna piss on you"
2008-02-10 02:06 < Lubaf> slashem: As a possible "I'm not making this up" part of the setting.
2008-02-10 02:06 < slashem> ah, "flavor text" so to speak
2008-02-10 02:07 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9USqGsV9gk8&feature=related
2008-02-10 02:07 < Lubaf> slashem: Yes, but really really famous; its possibly the most famous thing about the setting.
2008-02-10 02:07 < slashem> huh I have never heard of this. obviously I am missing out.
2008-02-10 02:08 < Lubaf> slashem: It's by White Wolf, so, no, you aren't.
2008-02-10 02:08 < slashem> haha been a long time since I did RPG's
2008-02-10 02:08 < Lubaf> White Wolf: Makers of games for emo wannabes since 1991.
2008-02-10 02:09 < NotAPolecat> In that case, the heroin probably glitters.
2008-02-10 02:15 < Ceiling_Cat> OMG
2008-02-10 02:15 < Ceiling_Cat> a soap-opera got cancelled
2008-02-10 02:15 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Passions]]
2008-02-10 02:15 < Ceiling_Cat> it only lasted 8 years!
2008-02-10 02:16 < AdamBishop> OH NOES
2008-02-10 02:16 < Ceiling_Cat> for a soap, that's practically a fetus
2008-02-10 02:16 < Ceiling_Cat> Guiding Light has been going for 71 years
2008-02-10 02:17 < mavhc> and people are still hoping that one day an episode won't suck
2008-02-10 02:17 < mavhc> they're still considering hiring writers and actors, but it would cost more
2008-02-10 02:19 < Ceiling_Cat> Ok, I'm genuinly curious
2008-02-10 02:19 < Ceiling_Cat> the 'ultimate star trek collector's pack' cost $1,700 dollars and had 210 DVDs
2008-02-10 02:20 < Ceiling_Cat> how much would hte ultimate guiding light collectr's pack cost? And how many DVDs?
2008-02-10 02:20 < Ceiling_Cat> they've aired over 15,000 episodes
2008-02-10 02:20 < mavhc> half of them won't exist anymroe
2008-02-10 02:21 < mavhc> plus radio eps would be much smaller
2008-02-10 02:21 < Ceiling_Cat> why not?
2008-02-10 02:21 < Ceiling_Cat> I thought Americna studios did a better job of preserving their stuff than the BBC did
2008-02-10 02:21 < Ceiling_Cat> American*
2008-02-10 02:22 < mavhc> only of shows that matter
2008-02-10 02:29 < AdamBishop> they didn't even keep the first Super Bowl
2008-02-10 02:30 < brown_cat> what do people think? http://loopaustralia.com/survey/index.php?sid=54369&newtest=Y
2008-02-10 02:31 < OverlordQ> arg, why on gods green earth would somebody write this damned program in Haskell
2008-02-10 02:32 * Enterprise_Cat gives brown_cat's site the green light to execute scripts
2008-02-10 02:32 < mavhc> to ensure their future employment
2008-02-10 02:32 < brown_cat> Enterprise_Cat: in english? :s
2008-02-10 02:32 < Enterprise_Cat> JavaScript
2008-02-10 02:32 < OverlordQ> mavhc: evidently
2008-02-10 02:34 < brown_cat> Enterprise_Cat: ah, thanks :D
2008-02-10 02:34 < brown_cat> Enterprise_Cat: I think the sexuality question will be a bit controversial :s
2008-02-10 02:34 < Enterprise_Cat> Yeah, no shit
2008-02-10 02:35 * Pumpmeup sprawls out on the chair and purrs toward brown_cat
2008-02-10 02:35 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-02-10 02:35 * brown_cat cuddles Pumpmeup
2008-02-10 02:36 < brown_cat> :D
2008-02-10 02:36 < brown_cat> Enterprise_Cat: but there is a "prefer not to answer" option so, I hope there isn't a problem
2008-02-10 02:37 < Enterprise_Cat> brown_cat: For the question "Are you involved in any sports?", if you select no, it should not ask the next question
2008-02-10 02:37 < brown_cat> crap
2008-02-10 02:37 < brown_cat> I forgot to add the functoin
2008-02-10 02:37 < brown_cat> 1 min
2008-02-10 02:38 < brown_cat> fixed
2008-02-10 02:38 < brown_cat> Enterprise_Cat: how much do you wanna bet <5% of wikimedians play sport xD
2008-02-10 02:38 < Enterprise_Cat> one pound of tuna
2008-02-10 02:39 < Enterprise_Cat> I'm done with RCP today
2008-02-10 02:39 * Enterprise_Cat shuts down huggle
2008-02-10 02:39 * brown_cat cuddles Enterprise_Cat
2008-02-10 02:40 < Enterprise_Cat> Heh, when registering this nick, I forgot I hit the 20 nick limit, so I dropped one of the most useless nicks I ever registered
2008-02-10 02:40 < brown_cat> xD
2008-02-10 02:40 < brown_cat> which?
2008-02-10 02:40 < mavhc> you register them all?
2008-02-10 02:40 < Enterprise_Cat> In_Soviet_Russia
2008-02-10 02:40 < Enterprise_Cat> mavhc: And each is linked to my master
2008-02-10 02:41 < Enterprise_Cat> The reason is that I have a hostmask, and I have ops in a few channels
2008-02-10 02:41 < mavhc> nickserv is ok if people aren't forced to use it
2008-02-10 02:41 < Enterprise_Cat> And you aren;t
2008-02-10 02:41 < Enterprise_Cat> *aren't
2008-02-10 02:41 < Enterprise_Cat> Unless you want a cloak and/or ops
2008-02-10 02:42 < mavhc> or to msg people, or join certain channels
2008-02-10 02:43 < brown_cat> MY EARS ARE BLEEDING http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqW0v7SrC4M
2008-02-10 02:44 < mavhc> and you videoed that event?
2008-02-10 02:44 * Enterprise_Cat wonders who was the last person to sign his guestbook
2008-02-10 02:45 < Enterprise_Cat> zOMG!
2008-02-10 02:45 < Enterprise_Cat> The Mythbusters Wiki dosen't use MediaWiki!
2008-02-10 02:45 < Enterprise_Cat> SACRILEGE!
2008-02-10 02:45 < Messedrocker> bastards
2008-02-10 02:45 < Enterprise_Cat> What the hell is wetpaint?
2008-02-10 02:45 < Enterprise_Cat> heh, if it wants my real name, it goes down the memory hole
2008-02-10 02:46 < mavhc> which wiki do they use?
2008-02-10 02:46 < Enterprise_Cat> WetPaint, whatever software they use
2008-02-10 02:46 < Enterprise_Cat> MediaWiki is the best
2008-02-10 02:46 * MrZ-man uses MediaWiki
2008-02-10 02:47 < Enterprise_Cat> Wow, I have too many buttons on the top of my monobook
2008-02-10 02:47 < MrZ-man> how many?
2008-02-10 02:48 < MrZ-man> on an article
2008-02-10 02:48 < Enterprise_Cat> Uhh
2008-02-10 02:48 * Enterprise_Cat goes too an article
2008-02-10 02:49 < Enterprise_Cat> Article Discussion view source Edit this page History Move Watch csd last rpp prod xfd unlink tag - that all comes out to 15
2008-02-10 02:49 < MrZ-man> 17 tabs, 9 navigation links, 18 toolbox links, and 2 search boxes ftw
2008-02-10 02:50 < Enterprise_Cat> 2 search boxes?
2008-02-10 02:50 < brown_cat> mavhc: no, I didn't tape it, I was searching for high school musicals, not high school musical xD
2008-02-10 02:50 < MrZ-man> I have a google search box, to use google to search Wikipedia
2008-02-10 02:50 < Enterprise_Cat> Script?
2008-02-10 02:50 < MrZ-man> yes
2008-02-10 02:50 < MrZ-man> User:Mr.Z-man/gsearch.js
2008-02-10 02:51 < Enterprise_Cat> Thanks!
2008-02-10 02:51 < Enterprise_Cat> Yay, moar crap for my monobook
2008-02-10 02:51 < MrZ-man> I've got tons of crap at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Z-man/monobook.js
2008-02-10 02:51 * brown_cat challenges Enterprise_Cat to a fiddle off
2008-02-10 02:51 < MrZ-man> even one I don't recommend using ever
2008-02-10 02:52 < Enterprise_Cat> Not as much as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FastLizard4/monobook.js
2008-02-10 02:52 < MrZ-man> //Autopatrolling - DO NOT USE THIS. IT WILL CRASH YOUR BROWSER IF YOU USE IT ON 100+ PAGES
2008-02-10 02:52 < Enterprise_Cat> heh
2008-02-10 02:52 < MrZ-man> is my sekrit unapproved patrol-bot
2008-02-10 02:55 < Enterprise_Cat> Hey, I likey google search box
2008-02-10 03:05 * Enterprise_Cat notices it got so darned quiet everywhere
2008-02-10 03:06 < NotAPolecat> "Stephen Colbert: [the terrorist group Hamas has started a children's TV show featuring bears] Hamas, until you break off your alliance with the bears, you're on notice.
2008-02-10 03:06 < Enterprise_Cat> heh
2008-02-10 03:07 * Enterprise_Cat wants a netsplit
2008-02-10 03:07 * Enterprise_Cat wants one right now
2008-02-10 03:07 < Enterprise_Cat> Hello closedmouth
2008-02-10 03:08 < closedmouth> hello, enterprise_cat, apparently i can't private message
2008-02-10 03:08 < NotAPolecat> heh, and something about how "taking liberties with the truth" is part of the great American tradition of liberty.
2008-02-10 03:08 < Enterprise_Cat> closedmouth: Do you want to PM me?
2008-02-10 03:09 < closedmouth> oh, never mind, i'm not much good at this irc business
2008-02-10 03:09 < Enterprise_Cat> closedmouth: I sent you an invite to a channel which is the equivalent of PM
2008-02-10 03:10 < Enterprise_Cat> closedmouth: Is there anything I can do for you?
2008-02-10 03:10 < closedmouth> no, it's fine, i'm just in here to observe as usual
2008-02-10 03:11 < closedmouth> i'm not used to being talked to :P
2008-02-10 03:11 * Enterprise_Cat is going to bed, good night!
2008-02-10 03:12 < Messedrocker> GOOD-NIGHT ENTERRPRISECAT
2008-02-10 03:19 < OverlordQ> shouldn't that be
2008-02-10 03:19 < OverlordQ> boldly go where no Cat Has gone before?
2008-02-10 03:21 * Messedrocker turns into a cardboard cutout with no eye-whites
2008-02-10 03:33 < brown_cat> does anyone know the location of the wikipedia logo at the top left of the site?
2008-02-10 03:34 < The359> the top left
2008-02-10 03:34 < brown_cat> The359: I mean url location xD
2008-02-10 03:35 < jennam> why dont you right click and choose properties and see?
2008-02-10 03:35 < brown_cat> I can't because there is a hotspot over it
2008-02-10 03:36 < jennam> view source?
2008-02-10 03:36 < brown_cat> nup, can't see it there
2008-02-10 03:37 < The359> it is super secret
2008-02-10 03:39 < brown_cat> The359: pleeeeeese help :(
2008-02-10 03:42 < The359> I found the logos for every other language
2008-02-10 03:42 < The359> but not the one for English
2008-02-10 03:44 < jennam> its prolly under a similar name?
2008-02-10 03:45 < The359> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png
2008-02-10 03:47 < brown_cat> The359: that is what is actually used?
2008-02-10 03:48 < The359> I'm sure sure
2008-02-10 03:48 < The359> erm
2008-02-10 03:48 < The359> I'm not sure
2008-02-10 03:48 < The359> But it's the closest thing I could find
2008-02-10 03:50 < The359> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/meta/9/91/Nohat-logo-XI-big-text.png
2008-02-10 03:54 < brown_cat> The359: is that the image?
2008-02-10 03:54 < The359> I don't know
2008-02-10 03:54 < The359> There's nothing there to say it is
2008-02-10 03:56 < brown_cat> k :)
2008-02-10 03:56 < brown_cat> thanks :)
2008-02-10 04:08 < brown_cat> what is the url for china's wikipedia
2008-02-10 04:09 < arcimboldo_> the Chinese Wikipedia or China's counter-Wikipedia?
2008-02-10 04:09 < brown_cat> either
2008-02-10 04:09 < arcimboldo_> zh.wikipedia.org is ours
2008-02-10 04:10 < arcimboldo_> Although there are a couple of other Chinese languages and also the minnan
2008-02-10 04:10 < brown_cat> thanks :D
2008-02-10 04:10 * brown_cat gives arcimboldo_ a cookie
2008-02-10 04:10 < ggreer|iBook> http://www.dietcrack.com/images/arctic/163.jpg
2008-02-10 04:10 < ggreer|iBook> I like how it's sold out
2008-02-10 04:11 < arcimboldo_> 大丈夫
2008-02-10 04:11 < brown_cat> SATAN"S LANGUAGE
2008-02-10 04:16 < NotAPolecat> Satana-san
2008-02-10 04:21 < NotAPolecat> CNN is now ready to project that I need food.
2008-02-10 04:23 < NotAPolecat> HUCKABEE IN STRIKING DISTANCE TO WIN WASHINGTON?
2008-02-10 04:24 < NotAPolecat> well, whoda thunk.
2008-02-10 04:25 < NotAPolecat> Odd results from there anyway
2008-02-10 04:26 < NotAPolecat> in the Washington Caucasus
2008-02-10 04:26 < NotAPolecat> McCainerramov is slightly ahead of Huckabian and Paulidze
2008-02-10 04:27 * brown_cat hugs JessicaTaylor
2008-02-10 04:27 < JessicaTaylor> Hello brown_cat
2008-02-10 04:27 * JessicaTaylor huggles brown_cat back
2008-02-10 04:28 < jerkface03> Straight talk express
2008-02-10 04:28 < jerkface03> Imagine what would happen if mccain won
2008-02-10 04:28 < jerkface03> he'd probably die before his first term
2008-02-10 04:29 < NotAPolecat> but now the business rightwingers have nobody to cheer on, should be quite uncomfortable
2008-02-10 04:30 < NotAPolecat> so they might speculate on that
2008-02-10 04:32 < NotAPolecat> wow... when I google "Iowa Caucasus" it seems many people spell it that way inadvertently, no satire
2008-02-10 04:32 < Messedrocker> iowa caucasus mountains
2008-02-10 04:34 < NotAPolecat> thats why I said... McCainerramov of Azerbaijan vs. Huckabian from Armenia and Paulidze representing Georgia (country)
2008-02-10 04:37 < NotAPolecat> CATCHALL CATEGORY CATERING CATHETER CATHOLIC CAUCASUS CAUCUSES CAUSALLY CAUSEWAY CAUTIOUS
2008-02-10 04:41 < doomssassin> :'(
2008-02-10 04:41 < NotAPolecat> Fret not
2008-02-10 04:42 < doomssassin> I need to figure out who absconded with my pants!
2008-02-10 04:44 < brown_cat> The359: how do you add the "hide" thing to the sitenotice?
2008-02-10 05:00 < NotAPolecat> *Ringo - Act Naturally
2008-02-10 05:01 < The359> you're asking the wrong person, brown_cat
2008-02-10 05:01 < brown_cat> k :) thanks
2008-02-10 05:03 < Mike_H> brown_cat: #wikinews >:(
2008-02-10 05:03 < zocky> NotAPolecat, the biggest fool that ever hit the big time?
2008-02-10 05:03 < NotAPolecat> Yea. Complete with fake drawl.
2008-02-10 05:04 * Mike_H beats NotAPolecat
2008-02-10 05:04 < Mike_H> what did you do with TheWeasel >:(
2008-02-10 05:04 < NotAPolecat> (it's strangely similar to the original for a cover)
2008-02-10 05:04 < NotAPolecat> I eated it.
2008-02-10 05:04 < Mike_H> :o
2008-02-10 05:05 < NotAPolecat> oh good lord
2008-02-10 05:05 < NotAPolecat> I still can't get over that line "when I held you near/you were so sincere"
2008-02-10 05:05 < bumm13> hiya WeaselPole
2008-02-10 05:06 < NotAPolecat> it's so terrible
2008-02-10 05:06 < NotAPolecat> hey
2008-02-10 05:06 < bumm13> Mike_H: I found something interesting at our local Safeway yesterday
2008-02-10 05:07 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-02-10 05:08 < Mike_H> what?
2008-02-10 05:08 < bumm13> Orangina
2008-02-10 05:09 < Mike_H> oh, yeah, they sell that here
2008-02-10 05:09 < bumm13> it's the first time I've seen anyone carry it :)
2008-02-10 05:09 < bumm13> it has a unique taste, to be sure
2008-02-10 05:11 < Mike_H> bumm13: I found an old closing credit
2008-02-10 05:11 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGx0gGQU0ZQ
2008-02-10 05:11 < Mike_H> :o
2008-02-10 05:11 < NotAPolecat> I like it, but it has orange juice so I cant drink it that much
2008-02-10 05:11 < bumm13> almost like liquefied orange peel, with a bit of carbonation
2008-02-10 05:11 < bumm13> or Squirt that's orange-flavored with less bite to it
2008-02-10 05:11 * NotAPolecat nods
2008-02-10 05:11 < bumm13> citrus allergy?
2008-02-10 05:12 < NotAPolecat> no, concentrate and my urinary tract don't mix
2008-02-10 05:12 < bumm13> ah
2008-02-10 05:12 < NotAPolecat> yay, rockabilly
2008-02-10 05:13 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-02-10 05:13 * brown_cat cuddles Fabexplosive
2008-02-10 05:14 < Fabexplosive> hey brown_cat
2008-02-10 05:14 < bumm13> Mike_H: all three major east-west mountain passes are closed in Washington right now :x
2008-02-10 05:14 < Mike_H> bumm13: snow?
2008-02-10 05:14 < bumm13> hiya Fabexplosive
2008-02-10 05:14 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-10 05:14 < Fabexplosive> hoi bumm13
2008-02-10 05:14 < bumm13> avalanche danger, whiteout conditions at times, etc.
2008-02-10 05:15 < bumm13> and Spokane is under a state of emergency due to harsh winter snow/ice conditions
2008-02-10 05:15 < bumm13> (and wind)
2008-02-10 05:18 < bumm13> "Yahoo board to spurn $44B Microsoft bid"
2008-02-10 05:18 < patbam> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodumudi#_note-0 clearly spam, right?
2008-02-10 05:40 < NotAPolecat> no spam
2008-02-10 05:41 * NotAPolecat sets up a 2 by 25 game engine match
2008-02-10 05:41 < NotAPolecat> first game looks drawish
2008-02-10 05:44 < TheWeasel> Vaut mieux.
2008-02-10 06:06 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Your opinion
2008-02-10 06:06 < Mike_H> Better representation of Australia abroad?
2008-02-10 06:06 < Mike_H> The Seekers
2008-02-10 06:06 < Mike_H> or
2008-02-10 06:06 < Mike_H> Men at Work
2008-02-10 06:07 < TheWeasel> The Easybeats.
2008-02-10 06:07 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: not an option >:(
2008-02-10 06:07 < ancjr> not familiar with seekers or easybeats
2008-02-10 06:07 < Mike_H> ancjr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Renlji79YFE
2008-02-10 06:07 < ancjr> ty
2008-02-10 06:08 < TheWeasel> I've never heard the Seekers, and the Easybeats are terrible
2008-02-10 06:08 < TheWeasel> argh
2008-02-10 06:08 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: click that clip then too
2008-02-10 06:08 < TheWeasel> Men At Work
2008-02-10 06:08 < JessicaTaylor> the hill billies from the bush that drink beer and chuck shrimps on the barbie
2008-02-10 06:08 < TheWeasel> are terrible
2008-02-10 06:08 < TheWeasel> I don't want to.
2008-02-10 06:08 < Mike_H> It's The Seekers
2008-02-10 06:08 < Mike_H> I like them
2008-02-10 06:08 < TheWeasel> Easybeats, AC/DC, not Midnight Oil, not INXS
2008-02-10 06:09 < ancjr> nice - i didn't realize who it was that sang this song Mike_H
2008-02-10 06:09 < Mike_H> ancjr: yeah, I didn't know they were Australian at first
2008-02-10 06:09 < Mike_H> I thought they were British
2008-02-10 06:10 < Mike_H> JessicaTaylor: What's more embarrassing coming from Australia, The Seekers or Men at Work?
2008-02-10 06:10 < JessicaTaylor> I don't know what either of them are
2008-02-10 06:11 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Georgy Girl, the title song to the film Georgy Girl, performed by The Seekers, was a #1 U.S. and #1 Australian hit, and a #3 British hit in late 1966 / early 1967. It was the only #1 release by The Seekers in the U.S.
2008-02-10 06:11 < Mike_H> That was the song in the link
2008-02-10 06:11 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-10 06:11 < JessicaTaylor> oh ok
2008-02-10 06:11 < ancjr> i dunno, land downunder rocks pretty hard
2008-02-10 06:11 < JessicaTaylor> Men at Work is just condescending
2008-02-10 06:11 < ancjr> aww :(
2008-02-10 06:12 < JessicaTaylor> So is the Seekers
2008-02-10 06:12 < JessicaTaylor> So I'unno
2008-02-10 06:12 < Mike_H> I think it was The Seekers that made America erroneously think that Australia only had white people.
2008-02-10 06:12 < JessicaTaylor> lol
2008-02-10 06:12 < Mike_H> to this day they're grouped in with the "British Invasion"
2008-02-10 06:13 < Mike_H> probably because they were white and their accents were funny
2008-02-10 06:13 < JessicaTaylor> xD
2008-02-10 06:13 < JessicaTaylor> I'm not old enough to know whether these band even existed
2008-02-10 06:13 < JessicaTaylor> How long ago were they around?
2008-02-10 06:13 < Mike_H> the 1960s
2008-02-10 06:13 < Mike_H> for The Seekers
2008-02-10 06:13 < ancjr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew
2008-02-10 06:13 < Mike_H> and then The New Seekers was the 1970s
2008-02-10 06:14 < Mike_H> ancjr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ga9Bs4fzSY
2008-02-10 06:14 < Mike_H> This is my favorite Seekers song
2008-02-10 06:14 < Gerrit> Hi. I have the text '<ref name="oversiktskarta">Lantmäteriets Översiktkarta 1 Kiruna</ref>' in my article ([[en:Torne River]]), and then several times '<ref name="oversiktskarta" />', but I get the error message "^ Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named "; why? (see article [[en:Torne River]])
2008-02-10 06:14 < TheWeasel> 17...dxe5!!
2008-02-10 06:15 < TheWeasel> yea, make our footnotes simpler :-)
2008-02-10 06:15 < TheWeasel> people will be more motivated to cite when they are
2008-02-10 06:15 < Gerrit> The error message is: '# ^ Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named oversiktskarta'
2008-02-10 06:15 < ancjr> ancjr: haven't heard this one before
2008-02-10 06:15 < Mike_H> JessicaTaylor: but out of all the Australians to make it big in the US
2008-02-10 06:15 < Mike_H> my favorite singer is Olivia
2008-02-10 06:15 < ancjr> errr Mike_H
2008-02-10 06:15 < ancjr> Mike_H: i think we could hang
2008-02-10 06:16 < Mike_H> heh
2008-02-10 06:16 * TheWeasel likes the Easybeats
2008-02-10 06:17 < JessicaTaylor> hmm
2008-02-10 06:17 < Mike_H> ancjr: Oh, and this is my favorite Olivia song
2008-02-10 06:17 < Mike_H> performing it on The Midnight Special
2008-02-10 06:17 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LitWc5mzFCM
2008-02-10 06:17 < JessicaTaylor> I like the new bands that people actually know exist
2008-02-10 06:17 < Mike_H> JessicaTaylor: Who doesn't know Olivia exists?
2008-02-10 06:17 < JessicaTaylor> Newton John?
2008-02-10 06:17 < Mike_H> She was Sandy in Grease for crying out loud! >:(
2008-02-10 06:18 < JessicaTaylor> >:)
2008-02-10 06:18 < ancjr> oh noes ONJ is a bit much ;)
2008-02-10 06:18 < morwen> Mike_H: she's just an urban legend
2008-02-10 06:18 < Mike_H> morwen: :(
2008-02-10 06:19 < JessicaTaylor> I've never heard her music
2008-02-10 06:19 < Mike_H> ancjr: I try to avoid her really overdone stuff
2008-02-10 06:19 < JessicaTaylor> lol
2008-02-10 06:19 < Mike_H> but Have You Never Been Mellow is a good compromise
2008-02-10 06:19 < Mike_H> it was a #1 hit in the US but you don't hear much of it anymore, and it isn't that cloying
2008-02-10 06:19 < JessicaTaylor> *shakes Mike_H*
2008-02-10 06:19 < JessicaTaylor> This is the year 2008
2008-02-10 06:20 < Mike_H> JessicaTaylor: I have musical perspective, darling. God knows just because this is 2008 doesn't mean I'll cast my taste aside and listen to T-Pain and Rihanna.
2008-02-10 06:20 < JessicaTaylor> lol
2008-02-10 06:20 < JessicaTaylor> ok
2008-02-10 06:20 < morwen> Mike_H: people who are proud of their limited worldview are funny, aren't they?
2008-02-10 06:20 < ancjr> now for 1975, my picks would be along the lines of Rhinestone Cowboy, Fame, Thank God I'm A Country Boy, Kung-Fu Fighting
2008-02-10 06:20 < Mike_H> morwen: Limited worldview?
2008-02-10 06:21 < TheWeasel> COUGH.
2008-02-10 06:21 < TheWeasel> Oh, social romanticism.
2008-02-10 06:21 < Mike_H> :)
2008-02-10 06:22 < TheWeasel> rationalizing your poor standing in the world by considering yourself more lucky than all the fancy rich people
2008-02-10 06:22 < Mike_H> morwen: Yeah, I've had people say things to me like
2008-02-10 06:22 < TheWeasel> that's the anti-class struggle
2008-02-10 06:22 < Mike_H> "Oh, I don't care about the Berlin Wall falling. I mean, that happened when I was 3!"
2008-02-10 06:22 < bumm13> for 1975, I like "The Rover" and "Ten Years Gone" by Led Zeppelin
2008-02-10 06:22 < bumm13> (and "Kashmir")
2008-02-10 06:22 < bumm13> "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd is good, too
2008-02-10 06:22 < ancjr> yeah, Zepplin is good too
2008-02-10 06:22 < TheWeasel> Kashmir definitely, but 1975 was a year of quality recession.
2008-02-10 06:23 < TheWeasel> What did Bowie do at the time?
2008-02-10 06:23 < ancjr> Fame
2008-02-10 06:23 < TheWeasel> hm
2008-02-10 06:23 < Mike_H> 1975, I liked "Have You Never Been Mellow," "Black Water," ...
2008-02-10 06:23 < Mike_H> and is that it?
2008-02-10 06:23 < Mike_H> no, I liked "Get Down Tonight"
2008-02-10 06:23 < bumm13> TheWeasel: 1974 was worse, though
2008-02-10 06:23 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-10 06:23 < Mike_H> ancjr: and my all-time favorite shameful song of 1975
2008-02-10 06:23 < Mike_H> Fly, Robin, Fly
2008-02-10 06:23 < ancjr> that was his biggest hit
2008-02-10 06:24 < slashem> f
2008-02-10 06:24 < Mike_H> ancjr: Remember the horrid disaster that was "Fly, Robin, Fly"?
2008-02-10 06:24 < Mike_H> "Fly, Robin, Fly" is a 1975 song by the German group Silver Convention. It rose to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in November 1975, staying there for three weeks. It was the second song performed by German citizens and the first song by a German pop group to rise to #1 on the American music charts.
2008-02-10 06:24 < TheWeasel> Of camp music, I only tolerate 50s pop-rock.
2008-02-10 06:25 < ancjr> i was born in 1976
2008-02-10 06:25 < TheWeasel> like Splish Splash, which is a favorite
2008-02-10 06:25 < Mike_H> ancjr: experience Fly Robin Fly for yourself
2008-02-10 06:25 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3kgV_YA4m0
2008-02-10 06:26 < TheWeasel> o.o R+B vs R endgame
2008-02-10 06:26 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: You know my undying devotion to this shitty ditty.
2008-02-10 06:26 < ancjr> oh, i already qued it up :)
2008-02-10 06:26 < TheWeasel> I know.
2008-02-10 06:26 < Mike_H> On one of my television message boards, we played the "which song is corniest?" game
2008-02-10 06:26 < ancjr> i don't think i've heard this before either
2008-02-10 06:26 < Mike_H> and I posted the link
2008-02-10 06:26 < Mike_H> and I won :D
2008-02-10 06:26 < TheWeasel> People sucked at Englishing so they only had like seven words in that thing
2008-02-10 06:26 < Mike_H> "Fly, Robin, Fly" carries the distinction of being a Billboard chart-topper with one of the fewest numbers of unique words: six. The song was written with very few lyrics due to the group not being able to speak English, and therefore unable to memorize a page of lyrics in a language unfamiliar to them. The chorus simply repeats "Fly, robin, fly" three times, with an ending of "Up, up to the sky!"
2008-02-10 06:27 * NotAHorse nuzzles NotACow
2008-02-10 06:27 < ancjr> i can top it for corniness
2008-02-10 06:27 < Mike_H> ancjr: It won a Grammy, though
2008-02-10 06:27 < Mike_H> for Best Instrumental
2008-02-10 06:27 < ancjr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m_lU2RA9Ak
2008-02-10 06:28 < ancjr> :D
2008-02-10 06:28 < morwen> i count seven words
2008-02-10 06:28 < morwen> oh, no i don't
2008-02-10 06:28 * morwen FAILS at counting
2008-02-10 06:30 < slashem> weasel, ever play brettspielwelt?
2008-02-10 06:30 < Mike_H> morwen: lol
2008-02-10 06:31 < ancjr> thats the best i can do for corniest song ever
2008-02-10 06:31 < TheWeasel> no I don't think so
2008-02-10 06:32 < slashem> oh, it is great if you like board games
2008-02-10 06:32 < ancjr> i want it played at my funeral
2008-02-10 06:32 * TheWeasel feels tempted to adjudicate the current endgame which will end in two hours or so by the 50-moves-rule
2008-02-10 06:32 < TheWeasel> I'll check it out
2008-02-10 06:32 < slashem> what server are you playing on?
2008-02-10 06:32 * TheWeasel wants Thunder Road by Springsteen played
2008-02-10 06:32 < TheWeasel> none
2008-02-10 06:32 < slashem> who will adjudicate your game?
2008-02-10 06:33 < TheWeasel> It's not my game, it's between two engines
2008-02-10 06:33 < slashem> ah
2008-02-10 06:33 < TheWeasel> I used to play on FICS, but the level was too uneven
2008-02-10 06:33 < slashem> I go to FICS just to chat now
2008-02-10 06:34 < TheWeasel> some people so you hardly learn anything, some so bad they were not really worth your time
2008-02-10 06:34 < TheWeasel> *so good
2008-02-10 06:34 < TheWeasel> hm
2008-02-10 06:34 < Mike_H> ancjr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNB8CnYB308
2008-02-10 06:35 < TheWeasel> anyway, this is a rook and bishop vs. rook endgame and one endgame insists it will win it
2008-02-10 06:35 < Mike_H> that's also an Australian I love
2008-02-10 06:35 < Mike_H> Helen Reddy
2008-02-10 06:35 < TheWeasel> *one engine
2008-02-10 06:36 * bumm13 is boredx0rs
2008-02-10 06:36 < ancjr> i still think Kinderen voor Kinderen is cornier ;)
2008-02-10 06:36 < Mike_H> morwen: You've heard Helen Reddy, haven't you?
2008-02-10 06:36 < Mike_H> ancjr: oh, that wasn't supposed to be a corny submission
2008-02-10 06:36 < Mike_H> I really like Helen Reddy
2008-02-10 06:36 < morwen> Mike_H: i've not
2008-02-10 06:36 < ancjr> oops :)
2008-02-10 06:37 * TheWeasel listens to CCR - Lookin' Out My Back Door
2008-02-10 06:37 < Mike_H> morwen: go to the link I gave to ancjr
2008-02-10 06:37 < Mike_H> it's a fabulous performance
2008-02-10 06:37 < Mike_H> "I Am Woman" is a song cowritten by Helen Reddy and singer/songwriter/guitarist Ray Burton and performed by Reddy. Released in its most well-known version in 1972, the song became an enduring anthem for the women�fs liberation movement.
2008-02-10 06:37 < Mike_H> The song reached #1 on the Billboard charts in December 1972. It was the first #1 on the Billboard chart by an Australian artist
2008-02-10 06:39 < Mike_H> morwen: The lesbians at the gay pride dinner in Atlanta kept requesting "I Am Woman" from the DJ
2008-02-10 06:40 < morwen> right
2008-02-10 06:40 < Mike_H> that, and "Redneck Woman"
2008-02-10 06:40 < Mike_H> they liked that one too
2008-02-10 06:40 < morwen> i have bookmarked that and will look at it later today
2008-02-10 06:40 < morwen> right now i must go and buy a chip pan
2008-02-10 06:40 < Mike_H> ok
2008-02-10 06:41 < ancjr> gretchen wilson :)
2008-02-10 06:41 < Mike_H> ancjr: She's here for the party :DD
2008-02-10 06:41 * TheWeasel has lesbian friends who do not listen to lesbian music
2008-02-10 06:42 < TheWeasel> i.e. hate Melissa Etheridge
2008-02-10 06:42 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Helen Reddy wasn't a lesbian.
2008-02-10 06:42 < TheWeasel> I mean "that lesbians are said to listen to"
2008-02-10 06:43 < TheWeasel> i.e. feminist or especially tough-women poseur music
2008-02-10 06:43 < morwen> as i am a lesbian, all music i listen to is by definition lesbian music
2008-02-10 06:43 < TheWeasel> That's why.
2008-02-10 06:43 < TheWeasel> it
2008-02-10 06:43 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: You can't get any more "feminist music" than Helen Reddy's "I Am Woman"
2008-02-10 06:43 < TheWeasel> is weird.
2008-02-10 06:43 < TheWeasel> ..to make such categories
2008-02-10 06:44 * bumm13 categorically brushes his teeth
2008-02-10 06:44 * brown_cat hugs bumm13's tooth brush
2008-02-10 06:44 < ancjr> reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyGAvulgWmw
2008-02-10 06:44 < TheWeasel> well nowadays where things like shopping, giggling and being your husband's slave are re-interpreted as signs for liberated women again
2008-02-10 06:44 < TheWeasel> it's kind of arbitrary anyway
2008-02-10 06:45 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: well, perhaps it's different by country
2008-02-10 06:45 < TheWeasel> "As a free woman, I choose to be stereotyped and treated condescendingly."
2008-02-10 06:45 < Mike_H> in the US, "I Am Woman" is pretty much the quintessential song of the '70s feminist movement
2008-02-10 06:45 < TheWeasel> my comment was more general
2008-02-10 06:46 < TheWeasel> feminism has lost its way, and the music is quite obsolete in people's minds now I guess
2008-02-10 06:46 < Mike_H> I don't think it has with everyone, but you're right in that feminism is dying.
2008-02-10 06:46 < Scottc> morning all
2008-02-10 06:46 < Scottc> I have questions :O
2008-02-10 06:46 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I remember about ten years ago
2008-02-10 06:46 < Mike_H> TIME had pictures of "feminists" on the cover
2008-02-10 06:47 < TheWeasel> not dying so much as being re-interpreted as "you can liberate yourself by being stereotypically female"
2008-02-10 06:47 < Mike_H> Susan B. Anthony
2008-02-10 06:47 < Mike_H> Betty Friedan
2008-02-10 06:47 < TheWeasel> which is nonsense of course
2008-02-10 06:47 < Mike_H> Gloria Steinem
2008-02-10 06:47 < Mike_H> and then...Ally McBeal
2008-02-10 06:47 < Mike_H> and under her photo
2008-02-10 06:47 < Mike_H> it said "is feminism dead?"
2008-02-10 06:47 < TheWeasel> well seriously
2008-02-10 06:47 * NotAHorse nuzzles Morwen
2008-02-10 06:47 < TheWeasel> people feel liberated by painting their nails
2008-02-10 06:47 < TheWeasel> next thing you know, wearing a burqa BY CHOICE will make em feel liberated
2008-02-10 06:48 * brown_cat rides NotAHorse
2008-02-10 06:48 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19980629,00.html
2008-02-10 06:48 < Mike_H> there's the cover
2008-02-10 06:48 < TheWeasel> and so I guess the people who aren't really interested in solving gender issues have got what they wanted
2008-02-10 06:48 < Scottc> how long would it take to change my circadian rhythm (that is your sleep cycle, rite?) ?
2008-02-10 06:49 < Mike_H> Scottc: It depends
2008-02-10 06:49 * NotAHorse gallops at a high speed, forcing brown_cat to hang on tight to avoid falling off.
2008-02-10 06:49 < Mike_H> it can take days, weeks or even months.
2008-02-10 06:49 < Scottc> like... say I stay up all night one night, and then set my alarm for the time I want to be up by for the next couple days
2008-02-10 06:49 < Mike_H> Experts don't recommend making yourself go to bed at an appropriate hour if you have sleep problems.
2008-02-10 06:49 * brown_cat feeds NotAHorse
2008-02-10 06:49 * soufron café coffee kaffe
2008-02-10 06:50 < Scottc> like eh... 4 - 5 days ago I was going to bed at 3 AM and waking up around 1 PM
2008-02-10 06:50 < arcimboldo_> it works better if you're in the polar night or polar summar area.
2008-02-10 06:50 < Mike_H> What they recommend is that you go to bed an hour earlier each night until you are at the normal time.
2008-02-10 06:50 < TheWeasel> ...so go to Norway already
2008-02-10 06:50 * NotAHorse salivates.
2008-02-10 06:50 < Scottc> and what I did was stay up all night and go to bed at 5 PM the next day
2008-02-10 06:50 < Mike_H> Scottc: That's not healthy.
2008-02-10 06:50 < Scottc> and well.. now i've been making sure i'm awake before 7 AM each day
2008-02-10 06:50 < Mike_H> You could be causing your sleep cycle more harm.
2008-02-10 06:51 < ancjr> i think thats what i've done
2008-02-10 06:51 < bumm13> I don't try to stay up all night yet have a messed up sleep cycle
2008-02-10 06:51 < ancjr> i've never had normal sleep
2008-02-10 06:51 < Scottc> well I mean i've been sleeping alright for 6 - 7 hours or so
2008-02-10 06:51 < bumm13> oh well
2008-02-10 06:51 * TheWeasel 's sleep cycle is an ovoid at best
2008-02-10 06:51 < Scottc> although unfortunately i've been waking up around 4 AM or so, and going to bed at around 7 - 8 PM
2008-02-10 06:51 < Scottc> I know I have some sleep to catch up on, but once I wake up, I just can't fall back asleep :(
2008-02-10 06:51 < arcimboldo_> Try some walking at fresh air or so ... that'll help improve your ability to sleep.
2008-02-10 06:52 < TheWeasel> heh, Black is seriously trying to mate.
2008-02-10 06:52 < TheWeasel> o.o
2008-02-10 06:52 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-02-10 06:52 < Mike_H> Scottc: You need to push yourself to stay up an hour late each night
2008-02-10 06:52 < Mike_H> until you get to your desired time.
2008-02-10 06:52 < Scottc> ha thats no problem
2008-02-10 06:53 < Scottc> in fact thats what screws up my sleep cycle in the first place :)
2008-02-10 06:53 < Scottc> its just that I have some test I have to take in like 4 days, and i'm hoping i'll be wide awake when its time to take it
2008-02-10 06:53 < Mike_H> Scottc: I have a sleep disorder where my schedule varies so much that I will find myself going to bed at the oddest hours
2008-02-10 06:53 < ancjr> all this talk about sleep has inspired me :)
2008-02-10 06:53 < Mike_H> like today, for example
2008-02-10 06:53 < Mike_H> I went to sleep at 3 p.m.
2008-02-10 06:53 * ancjr waves gnite
2008-02-10 06:54 < TheWeasel> That *is* odd.
2008-02-10 06:54 < Scottc> I have a friend like that :P
2008-02-10 06:54 < TheWeasel> O
2008-02-10 06:54 < Scottc> sometimes he's asleep all day, sometimes all night... heheh
2008-02-10 06:54 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Well, it's an actual disorder, and I'm not treating it
2008-02-10 06:54 < TheWeasel> I just get these random fatigue attacks.
2008-02-10 06:54 < TheWeasel> I just get extremely tired without warning
2008-02-10 06:54 < Scottc> i'm a bit skeptical of disorders like that though...
2008-02-10 06:54 < Scottc> I mean you could really explain it away by laziness
2008-02-10 06:54 < Scottc> or ehh
2008-02-10 06:55 < Scottc> stuff like that?
2008-02-10 06:55 < Mike_H> Scottc: not really, sleep disorders can be caused by a variety of things
2008-02-10 06:55 < Mike_H> for example
2008-02-10 06:55 < Mike_H> mine was caused by sleep apnea
2008-02-10 06:55 < Scottc> ah
2008-02-10 06:55 < Mike_H> which it's my own fault
2008-02-10 06:55 < Mike_H> because I don't treat it
2008-02-10 06:55 < Scottc> but I mean
2008-02-10 06:56 < Scottc> some people might say they have a sleep disorder and end up not getting any exercise every day, and also be quite lazy
2008-02-10 06:56 < Mike_H> Scottc: It's not a true correlation
2008-02-10 06:56 < Mike_H> because I've always been lazy
2008-02-10 06:56 < Scottc> i'm not saying you're lazy
2008-02-10 06:57 < Scottc> o
2008-02-10 06:57 < Mike_H> but I've not always had sleep apnea
2008-02-10 06:57 < TheWeasel> sleeping disorder A =|= sleeping disorder B
2008-02-10 06:57 < Scottc> okay maybe you are lazy :P
2008-02-10 06:57 < Mike_H> sleep apnea has started
2008-02-10 06:57 < Mike_H> with me