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2008-02-09 11:31 * brown_cat_ sobs
2008-02-09 11:31 < Messedrocker> reminds me of the simpsons
2008-02-09 11:31 < brown_cat_nap> its actually stolen from garfield xD
2008-02-09 11:32 < Messedrocker> homer kept causing fires in mr. burns's kitchen
2008-02-09 11:32 < Messedrocker> so he just poured a bowl of cereal
2008-02-09 11:32 < Messedrocker> and even that combusted
2008-02-09 11:32 < brown_cat_nap> hhaahhahaahha, I remember xD
2008-02-09 11:33 < TheWeasel> And again Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo successfully buffalo Buffalo buffalo
2008-02-09 11:34 < nerdi> Messedrocker may i ask you s.th. in a query?
2008-02-09 11:34 < Messedrocker> ok
2008-02-09 11:40 < Sfan00> Any UK lawyers in
2008-02-09 11:40 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-09 11:41 < White_Cat> Sfan00 UK has no law and order
2008-02-09 11:41 < White_Cat> thats a myth Dr WHo created
2008-02-09 11:41 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-09 11:41 < Sfan00> ROFL
2008-02-09 11:41 < TheWeasel> have a scone, make yourself at home.
2008-02-09 11:41 < TheWeasel> Just the Sherriff of Nottingham, and he can be bought.
2008-02-09 11:41 < Sfan00> I was being vaugely serious for once :)
2008-02-09 11:41 < TheWeasel> Oh, and the sharia, but only in the archdiocese of Canterbury.
2008-02-09 11:42 < White_Cat> TheWeasel that makes you an infidel
2008-02-09 11:42 < TheWeasel> I don't live in the archdiocese of Canterbury.
2008-02-09 11:42 < White_Cat> oh
2008-02-09 11:42 < Sfan00> TheWeasel: I thought some Lutherian sects were just as bad?
2008-02-09 11:42 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-02-09 11:43 * White_Cat orders the slient black helicopters to phisicaly carry TheWeasel's current country to canterbury
2008-02-09 11:43 < TheWeasel> It was a joke on Rowan Williams.
2008-02-09 11:43 < Sfan00> Respect the simley :)
2008-02-09 11:43 < Sfan00> *smiley
2008-02-09 11:43 * brown_cat_nap scares Sfan00 >:D
2008-02-09 11:43 < TheWeasel> Here we have law but no order.
2008-02-09 11:44 < TheWeasel> which is just fine
2008-02-09 11:44 < loader> Whte_Cat, do you have one more helicopter for me?
2008-02-09 11:44 < Sfan00> /me ignores brown_cat_nap
2008-02-09 11:44 * Sfan00 ignores brown_cat_nap
2008-02-09 11:44 * brown_cat_nap ignores Sfan00 a second before he threatens to ignore me
2008-02-09 11:45 < loader> Or if you have one small interceptor... It would be perfect...
2008-02-09 11:47 * brown_cat_nap sleeps in front of the fire
2008-02-09 11:49 < White_Cat> loader sure
2008-02-09 11:50 * White_Cat slaps loader a bit with a large helicopter
2008-02-09 11:54 < loader> wow
2008-02-09 11:54 < loader> O_o
2008-02-09 11:54 * White_Cat slaps loader some more with a large helicopter
2008-02-09 11:54 * White_Cat slaps loader some more with a large helicopter fanaticaly
2008-02-09 11:54 < White_Cat> eeek
2008-02-09 11:54 < White_Cat> it broke
2008-02-09 11:54 * loader flies away on interceptor
2008-02-09 11:55 * loader wondering what was that mosquito buzzing over plane's engine
2008-02-09 11:59 * TheWeasel wonders if there still are people talking casually in Latin
2008-02-09 11:59 < pherring> o/
2008-02-09 11:59 * loader offers White_Cat to ride aircraft
2008-02-09 12:02 < TheWeasel> I mean, Latin is quite useful, spoken all over Latin America, o.o
2008-02-09 12:03 < Messedrocker> TheWeasel, stop speaking like an American
2008-02-09 12:04 * White_Cat parachutes off
2008-02-09 12:04 * White_Cat presses the red button
2008-02-09 12:04 < White_Cat> BOOM!
2008-02-09 12:04 < White_Cat> little c4 knocking at your door
2008-02-09 12:04 < White_Cat> or in this case, hull
2008-02-09 12:08 * loader flies on Su-27 above Australia and waves little playing with explosives
2008-02-09 12:09 < TheWeasel> *Beatles - The Night Before
2008-02-09 12:09 < loader> *little girl
2008-02-09 12:11 < }{obbes> TheWeasel: There aren't really. There are a few IRC fora where people attempt at Latin chat, but it's not working out.
2008-02-09 12:11 < TheWeasel> Pity.
2008-02-09 12:12 < }{obbes> Communication in Latin may be possible, but the people who are able to do so are so few that they actively have to seek out one another explicitly for this purpose.
2008-02-09 12:13 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-09 12:13 < TheWeasel> probably restricted to academic rounds of four
2008-02-09 12:13 < TheWeasel> at big universities
2008-02-09 12:13 < }{obbes> Yeah. Which is sad.
2008-02-09 12:13 < }{obbes> Even at the big universities, they don't teach conversational Latin.
2008-02-09 12:13 < }{obbes> I think they should.
2008-02-09 12:14 * TheWeasel is in a Latin-heavy profession, but you can do without
2008-02-09 12:14 < }{obbes> It was possible for most grammar school boys only a couple of centuries back. It can't be that impossible for today's university students.
2008-02-09 12:14 < TheWeasel> at least without knowing more than what sentences mean
2008-02-09 12:14 < }{obbes> TheWeasel: Which is that?
2008-02-09 12:14 < }{obbes> Law?
2008-02-09 12:14 < TheWeasel> yea, civil law tradition
2008-02-09 12:14 < TheWeasel> lots of Roman rules there
2008-02-09 12:15 < uberpenguin> hm... I wonder what audiophiles think of class-D amplifiers
2008-02-09 12:15 < uberpenguin> do they bleed from their eyes?
2008-02-09 12:15 < }{obbes> Do you have to learn Latin? Or just the names of the basic principles?
2008-02-09 12:15 < loader> Cogito, ergo sum...
2008-02-09 12:15 < Messedrocker> hey i didn't know gloria was sick
2008-02-09 12:15 < TheWeasel> six years of school Latin used to be a condition for signing up for the degree.
2008-02-09 12:16 < TheWeasel> they dropped it in the 70s
2008-02-09 12:16 < }{obbes> I'm in med school. They've dropped the Latin requirements here as well.
2008-02-09 12:16 < }{obbes> Even tho the Latin terminology is still used.
2008-02-09 12:16 < TheWeasel> there are still longer sentences to remember for which a working knowledge is not too bad
2008-02-09 12:17 < TheWeasel> for example the dolo-petit principle
2008-02-09 12:17 < TheWeasel> "dolo agit, qui petit, quod statim redditurus est"
2008-02-09 12:17 < TheWeasel> "mischievously acts who claims what is to be given back immediately."
2008-02-09 12:19 < Qst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Qst/Jens_Nygaard
2008-02-09 12:19 < Qst> Damn, wrong channel. Sorry, folks
2008-02-09 12:19 < TheWeasel> i.e., if someone else has an ultimately stronger claim
2008-02-09 12:23 < TheWeasel> or in theft the "animus rem sibi habendi", the will to have something for oneself
2008-02-09 12:26 < AzaTht> the stike might be over tomorrow
2008-02-09 12:26 < AzaTht> the WGS strike
2008-02-09 12:26 < AzaTht> WGA*
2008-02-09 12:27 < loader> what's WGA?
2008-02-09 12:27 < AzaTht> Writers Guild of America
2008-02-09 12:27 < anon32> ^^
2008-02-09 12:27 < loader> thx
2008-02-09 12:30 < TheWeasel> *I Don't Want To Spoil The Party Reloaded - The Beatles
2008-02-09 12:30 < TheWeasel> I think the song is called You Like Me Too Much, I think
2008-02-09 12:32 < TheWeasel> I think, I really do think.
2008-02-09 12:34 < }{obbes> TheWeasel: Heh, that is a cool term.
2008-02-09 12:36 * TheWeasel tries to hobble together the three worst Beatles songs
2008-02-09 12:37 < bumm13> Piggies is one of them
2008-02-09 12:37 < }{obbes> I was thinking of "animus rem sibi habendi" :)
2008-02-09 12:38 < TheWeasel> 1. It's Only Love, 2. Yellow Submarine, 3. Baby's In Black?
2008-02-09 12:38 < TheWeasel> Yea
2008-02-09 12:38 < bumm13> Yellow Submarine is awesome! >:(
2008-02-09 12:40 < TheWeasel> it's hard to find something outright bad
2008-02-09 12:40 < TheWeasel> (except It's Only Love)
2008-02-09 12:40 < bumm13> Piggies!
2008-02-09 12:41 < TheWeasel> Piggies, yea.
2008-02-09 12:41 < TheWeasel> Tell Me What You See is terrible.
2008-02-09 12:41 < bumm13> I really dislike that one
2008-02-09 12:41 < bumm13> I haven't heard most of these other Beatles songs
2008-02-09 12:41 < TheWeasel> And Drive My Car.
2008-02-09 12:41 < bumm13> meh, it's decent
2008-02-09 12:41 < TheWeasel> completely unnecessary on such a unbelievably strong record
2008-02-09 12:42 < bumm13> arguably
2008-02-09 12:42 < TheWeasel> Tomorrow Never Knows, unless you have a special kind of cookies ready.
2008-02-09 12:44 < TheWeasel> Most people really hate Obladi
2008-02-09 12:44 < TheWeasel> but I dunno, I think it's good Paul looks around for styles
2008-02-09 12:44 < bumm13> it's not horrid
2008-02-09 12:45 < TheWeasel> I'm becoming a bigger fan of Paul's contributions the older I get
2008-02-09 12:45 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-02-09 12:45 < TheWeasel> he had a good sense of the roots rock
2008-02-09 12:46 < TheWeasel> and nice harmonies to boot
2008-02-09 12:48 < TheWeasel> his reputation as the Beatles' quiche eater is undeserved
2008-02-09 12:48 < jeremyb> hah
2008-02-09 12:48 < jeremyb> i thought TheWeasel was talking about an editor
2008-02-09 12:49 < Aqwis> i thought he was talking about Ron Paul =/
2008-02-09 12:49 < TheWeasel> Maybe he
2008-02-09 12:49 < TheWeasel> edits Wikipedia
2008-02-09 12:50 * TheWeasel is off again to double-redirect all articles to [[Weenie]]
2008-02-09 12:51 < Mike_H> Why do people on the Internet love talking about Ron Paul?
2008-02-09 12:51 < Mike_H> Clearly his following isn't that large.
2008-02-09 12:52 < Mike_H> Everywhere you go on the Internet...RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAULLLLLLLL!
2008-02-09 12:52 < Mike_H> and even in magazines where they profile candidates, you read the letters to editor
2008-02-09 12:52 < Mike_H> "OMG YOU FORGOT RON PAUL"
2008-02-09 12:52 < Mike_H> maybe for good reason
2008-02-09 12:52 < Mike_H> damn.
2008-02-09 12:52 < bumm13> RuPaul
2008-02-09 12:52 < Mike_H> I'd vote for RuPaul
2008-02-09 12:52 * bumm13 NP: Yardbirds - Happenings Ten Years Time Ago (1966)
2008-02-09 12:52 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 12:54 < Mike_H> Also, many World of Warcraft players have named themselves after Ron Paul and staged an in-game support march.[116]
2008-02-09 12:54 < TheWeasel> Paul is dead.
2008-02-09 12:54 < Mike_H> ew.
2008-02-09 12:54 < Mike_H> So Ron Paul has the virgin vote.
2008-02-09 12:54 < bumm13> wtf?
2008-02-09 12:54 < Mike_H> Well, that's class.
2008-02-09 12:54 < bumm13> hahahaha
2008-02-09 12:54 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: Word of the day.
2008-02-09 12:55 < Mike_H> Mass quantities of virgins turning out to vote have not been seen in such large quantities since the Ross Perot candidacy of '96!
2008-02-09 12:56 < TheWeasel> People on the internet sometimes have disjointed relationships with established reality. So do the proposed policies or Ron Paul.
2008-02-09 12:56 < bumm13> Mike_H: you might like this video -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MEL84yXh0
2008-02-09 12:56 < TheWeasel> *of
2008-02-09 12:56 < bumm13> (if not the music itself)
2008-02-09 12:56 < bumm13> TheWeasel: indeed
2008-02-09 12:56 < bumm13> see also: [[Linux]]
2008-02-09 12:57 * bumm13 ducks
2008-02-09 12:57 < bumm13> (note: the title of that video's page is misspelled in a very unfortunate way ;p )
2008-02-09 12:58 < TheWeasel> *Spencer Davis Group - Keep On Running
2008-02-09 12:58 < TheWeasel> Stevie Winwood had a mighty fine voice
2008-02-09 12:58 < bumm13> he does
2008-02-09 12:59 < TheWeasel> Runnin from mah oh-ho-homs!
2008-02-09 12:59 < TheWeasel> Spencer Davis himself studied right next to my department for a few semesters
2008-02-09 13:00 < TheWeasel> "When he[vague] got a grant to go to college..."
2008-02-09 13:00 < TheWeasel> What is vague about "he"?
2008-02-09 13:00 < Mike_H> Is it near a sentence with other people mentioned?
2008-02-09 13:00 < TheWeasel> no
2008-02-09 13:00 < Mike_H> then it's not vague.
2008-02-09 13:00 < TheWeasel> it's at the start of a paragraph
2008-02-09 13:01 < TheWeasel> Right
2008-02-09 13:01 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-09 13:01 < Mike_H> That's the only way it can be vague
2008-02-09 13:01 < Mike_H> if you mention two men
2008-02-09 13:01 < Mike_H> and then go "he"
2008-02-09 13:01 < TheWeasel> Yea, I know
2008-02-09 13:01 < TheWeasel> not the case here
2008-02-09 13:02 < jeremyb> [[Yellow Submarine (film)]]
2008-02-09 13:03 < jeremyb> | starring = Sgt. Peppers Lonery Hearts Clib Band, epilogue: [[John Lennon]], [[Paul McCartney]], [[George Harrison]], [[Ringo Starr]]<br>voices: [[Paul Angelis]]<br>[[John Clive]]<br>[[Dick Emery]]<br>[[Geoffrey Hughes]]<br>[[Lance Percival]]<br>[[Peter Batten]]
2008-02-09 13:03 < jeremyb> :(
2008-02-09 13:03 < bumm13> :x
2008-02-09 13:04 < bumm13> Mike_H - did you see my link?
2008-02-09 13:06 < jeremyb> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yellow_Submarine_%28film%29&diff=189050163&oldid=188672181
2008-02-09 13:09 < Chixpy> Buenas
2008-02-09 13:13 < bumm13> "Elvis Costello is certainly a long-term ABBA fan. In 2001 he collaborated with the opera singer Anne Sofie von Otter on an album called 'For The Stars,' which contains a rather lovely cover of ABBA's 'Like An Angel Passing Through My Room', which features Benny Andersson on piano. What's more, Elvis has admitted that his biggest-ever British hit single owed a lot to the influence ABBA had on him and The Attractions' keyboard player Steve
2008-02-09 13:13 < bumm13> hmm, floodage :x
2008-02-09 13:14 < Qst> Would I be right in saying that if an image on a webapage has no copyright information at all, nor does the website, it would count as public domain? See: http://www.interactionmedia.com/index.htm
2008-02-09 13:15 < Random832> Qst: if it was published before 1989
2008-02-09 13:15 < Random832> with no copyright notice
2008-02-09 13:15 < Qst> Mh, it doesn't even say that
2008-02-09 13:15 * Random832 notes the world-wide-web did not exist in 1989
2008-02-09 13:15 < Random832> you might get away with it for usenet posts, though
2008-02-09 13:15 < Cyrius> Qst: um, no.
2008-02-09 13:15 < TheWeasel> Assume that copyright is present.
2008-02-09 13:16 < Qst> I can't find a free picture anywhere
2008-02-09 13:16 < Qst> I know NFC and the like, but the lack of free pictures for this bloke is annoying
2008-02-09 13:16 < Random832> copyright is always present on anything published on or after 1 march 1989
2008-02-09 13:16 < Random832> Qst: you could ask someone to release one under a free license
2008-02-09 13:16 < Qst> Yeah, I'm going to email the company of another website and ask them for a PD one
2008-02-09 13:18 < TheWeasel> *Dylan - Black Crow Blues (1965)
2008-02-09 13:20 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 13:20 < Dp67> somebody been a bad boy
2008-02-09 13:21 < AzaTht> yahoo rejects MS
2008-02-09 13:24 < TheWeasel> Wow, Arlo Guthrie has gotten on a bit.
2008-02-09 13:24 < TheWeasel> even at 25, he had this incredibly young face
2008-02-09 13:25 < TheWeasel> now he just looks like any aging hippie
2008-02-09 13:25 < TheWeasel> much older than he is
2008-02-09 13:27 < TheWeasel> "Guthrie later wrote a follow-up recounting how he learned that Richard Nixon had owned a copy of the song, and he jokingly suggested that this explained the famous 18½ minute gap in the Watergate tapes."
2008-02-09 13:27 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-02-09 13:28 * TheWeasel listens to an impossibly complex blues
2008-02-09 13:29 * bumm13 really likes this video of "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa
2008-02-09 13:29 < bumm13> talk about a timepiece ;)
2008-02-09 13:29 < TheWeasel> that song has always baffled me
2008-02-09 13:29 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-09 13:30 < bumm13> it shows these people dancing typically but also a bunch of Super 8 breakdancing footage in NYC
2008-02-09 13:31 < bumm13> the group looks like a mix of George Clinton styling and The Village People, only on crack ;)
2008-02-09 13:31 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-02-09 13:31 < bumm13> the video also shows a guy who looks like a "mix" of Snoop Dog and that guy from GoodTimes who played J.J. ;)
2008-02-09 13:31 < TheWeasel> yo yo get funky!
2008-02-09 13:32 < bumm13> (and also some black dude with a mohawk)
2008-02-09 13:32 < bumm13> :D
2008-02-09 13:32 < bumm13> also a funny Super 8 clip of a 2- or 3-year-old kid trying to breakdance
2008-02-09 13:35 < bumm13> (a kid who is probably slighter older than I am :x )
2008-02-09 13:35 < bumm13> *slightly
2008-02-09 13:35 < TheWeasel> heh, wonder how he feels
2008-02-09 13:35 < TheWeasel> when he watches that
2008-02-09 13:35 < bumm13> old ;)
2008-02-09 13:35 < bumm13> this was no later than 1982
2008-02-09 13:35 < TheWeasel> *Ben Folds Five - Bitches Ain't Shit
2008-02-09 13:36 < TheWeasel> vs. the Eazy-mofoing-E
2008-02-09 13:36 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 13:36 < bumm13> I guess the keyboard work on "Planet Rock" was done by Kraftwerk
2008-02-09 13:36 < TheWeasel> (as the NWA single had it)
2008-02-09 13:37 < TheWeasel> oh was it
2008-02-09 13:37 * bumm13 looks for verification
2008-02-09 13:37 < TheWeasel> from the Dusseldorf ghetto
2008-02-09 13:37 < bumm13> ah, maybe not
2008-02-09 13:37 < bumm13> "Produced by Arthur Baker, 'Planet Rock' blends synthesizer and vocoder sounds with breakbeating."
2008-02-09 13:38 < bumm13> "It was influenced by artists such as Kraftwerk, Gary Numan and funk pioneer George Clinton."
2008-02-09 13:38 < bumm13> ah
2008-02-09 13:38 * Gary wakes up
2008-02-09 13:38 * TheWeasel wonders if it's good to advertize your apartment as being in "Berlin South Central"
2008-02-09 13:38 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 13:38 < Dp67> Kraftwek is cool
2008-02-09 13:39 < Dp67> fraftwerk eve
2008-02-09 13:39 < TheWeasel> Kraftwerk
2008-02-09 13:39 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-09 13:39 < TheWeasel> The Power Stations
2008-02-09 13:40 < bumm13> aha!
2008-02-09 13:40 < TheWeasel> they were the first to really exploit the German stereotypes
2008-02-09 13:40 < TheWeasel> instead of hiding them
2008-02-09 13:40 < bumm13> "The song melded the main melody from Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" with electronic beats based on their track "Numbers" as well as portions from records by Ennio Morricone and Captain Sky - thus creating a new style of music altogether, electro funk."
2008-02-09 13:40 < bumm13> so a different song by them did sample Kraftwerk
2008-02-09 13:40 < TheWeasel> yo yo get funky
2008-02-09 13:40 < bumm13> (wait, no, not different song)
2008-02-09 13:41 < bumm13> * "Planet Rock" samples Kraftwerk
2008-02-09 13:41 < bumm13> :P
2008-02-09 13:41 < bumm13> </confusion>
2008-02-09 13:41 * TheWeasel is oddly tired
2008-02-09 13:41 < bumm13> I was oddly energized early this morning
2008-02-09 13:41 < Dp67> German Industrial is cool stuff
2008-02-09 13:41 < bumm13> some of it is
2008-02-09 13:41 < TheWeasel> Both surely signs of a letal disease (according to my mom)
2008-02-09 13:42 < bumm13> meh, moms just worry because they're moms
2008-02-09 13:42 < TheWeasel> Like my great idol, the radio DJ John Peel, I hate industrial music
2008-02-09 13:42 < TheWeasel> That extends to Einstürzende Neubauten
2008-02-09 13:43 < TheWeasel> who I was practically neighbors with until a few years ago
2008-02-09 13:43 < Dp67> I like all kinds of music. but cRap then gain, I don't consider Rap music
2008-02-09 13:43 < bumm13> Raymond Scott was an early electronic music pioneer
2008-02-09 13:43 < bumm13> most rap sucks
2008-02-09 13:43 < TheWeasel> I like some hip hop
2008-02-09 13:43 < TheWeasel> there's a lot of good, mindful stuff out there
2008-02-09 13:43 < Dp67> i dont like any
2008-02-09 13:44 < TheWeasel> Suum cuique I guess
2008-02-09 13:44 < bumm13> part of rap's bad reputation (musically) is that most of it basically *isn't* music, artistically speaking
2008-02-09 13:44 < bumm13> the genre degenerated rather quickly as such things go
2008-02-09 13:45 < Dp67> all of it is repeditive sampled music no reall tallent required.
2008-02-09 13:45 < TheWeasel> If the artistic value doesn't decide, the distinction is arbitrary
2008-02-09 13:45 < bumm13> that doesn't mean that some of it isn't unique pieces of work
2008-02-09 13:45 < TheWeasel> good producing is a nice thing
2008-02-09 13:46 < bumm13> maybe musicians in "real" music genres have no real talent (required or not)
2008-02-09 13:46 < bumm13> s/maybe/many
2008-02-09 13:46 < TheWeasel> Bobby Goldsboro is considered music, even though it's "degenerated" artistically compared to, say, the Beatles
2008-02-09 13:46 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 13:46 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-09 13:47 < bumm13> Bread certainly degenerated from *something*
2008-02-09 13:47 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-02-09 13:47 < TheWeasel> I don't want to know.
2008-02-09 13:47 < Dp67> Bread is not bad..
2008-02-09 13:47 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-09 13:47 < TheWeasel> I love how people confuse caricatures and soft versions of a genre for typical bands of the genre
2008-02-09 13:47 < TheWeasel> *with
2008-02-09 13:48 < TheWeasel> I know people who are convinced that Stevie Ray Vaughan is the greatest bluesman evuh.
2008-02-09 13:48 < TheWeasel> (hint: he isn't)
2008-02-09 13:49 < Dp67> I used to work at a adult contemporary radio station and played allot of those adult contemopray hits of yesteryears
2008-02-09 13:49 < TheWeasel> It's like listening to Herman's Hermits instead of the Kinks.
2008-02-09 13:49 < TheWeasel> I just dislike the whole format of "classic rock"
2008-02-09 13:49 < TheWeasel> much of it is overblown stadium roc
2008-02-09 13:49 < bumm13> I hate certain chunks of it
2008-02-09 13:49 < TheWeasel> k
2008-02-09 13:49 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-09 13:50 < TheWeasel> REO Speedwagon...
2008-02-09 13:50 < bumm13> bands like Styx and....
2008-02-09 13:50 < bumm13> yeah!
2008-02-09 13:50 < bumm13> equal suckage
2008-02-09 13:50 < TheWeasel> and that guy who rips the heart out of live rabbits or something
2008-02-09 13:50 < TheWeasel> Ted Nugent
2008-02-09 13:50 < bumm13> Nugent was overblown stadium variety but also very influential
2008-02-09 13:50 < TheWeasel> I've just heard Pearl Jam referred to as "classic rock"
2008-02-09 13:50 < bumm13> (was/is)
2008-02-09 13:50 < TheWeasel> Am I that old?
2008-02-09 13:51 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 13:51 < FoeNyx> yes you are !
2008-02-09 13:51 < bumm13> we suffer from recentism badly nowadays
2008-02-09 13:51 < TheWeasel> I dislike the chest hair side of blues rock and what became of it
2008-02-09 13:51 < FoeNyx> btw 'lo bumm13
2008-02-09 13:51 < TheWeasel> never been a big Zeppelin fan
2008-02-09 13:51 < bumm13> hiya FoeNyx
2008-02-09 13:51 < Dp67> I grew up listening to Styx and REO.. my age that stuff was 'Modern Rock" at one time.. lol
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> amazing, that
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> I like Led Zeppelin's music, mostly
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> the band, not so mucuh
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> *much
2008-02-09 13:52 < TheWeasel> I don't want to state what I grew up with.
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> their first two albums are highly-derivative
2008-02-09 13:52 < TheWeasel> I think the category is "prefer not to disclose"
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> (and a tad plagiaristic at times)
2008-02-09 13:52 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 13:53 < bumm13> Robert Plant has been singing lately with....Alison Krause :x
2008-02-09 13:53 < bumm13> I mean, wth?
2008-02-09 13:53 < TheWeasel> Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, the glam rock acts that came up later
2008-02-09 13:53 < TheWeasel> o.o
2008-02-09 13:53 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-02-09 13:53 < TheWeasel> Krauss, I think
2008-02-09 13:53 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-09 13:53 < bumm13> Robert Plant looks horrible now
2008-02-09 13:54 < bumm13> he's not aged well at all
2008-02-09 13:54 < TheWeasel> Drugs.
2008-02-09 13:54 < bumm13> indeed
2008-02-09 13:54 < Dp67> Deep Purple and Blue Oyster Cult.. two of the loudest concerts I've ever been to in my life.. lol
2008-02-09 13:54 < TheWeasel> I thought I was gonna go see the NY Dolls here in Berlin
2008-02-09 13:54 < TheWeasel> Eventually didn't
2008-02-09 13:54 < bumm13> aww
2008-02-09 13:55 < TheWeasel> thats borderline
2008-02-09 13:55 < bumm13> BÖC is a peculiar mix of sounds
2008-02-09 13:55 < TheWeasel> the creators of goth music
2008-02-09 13:55 < Dp67> especially BOC.. Small arena and very loud.
2008-02-09 13:55 < bumm13> "boogie" rock, hard rock and "nerd" music ;)
2008-02-09 13:55 < bumm13> they are well-known as a live act
2008-02-09 13:55 < TheWeasel> Don't Fear The Reaper is done great unjustice by being labeled classic rock
2008-02-09 13:55 < TheWeasel> it's quite deep
2008-02-09 13:55 < bumm13> yeah, in many ways
2008-02-09 13:56 < TheWeasel> I love boogie rock done well, big fan of AC/DC
2008-02-09 13:56 * Dp67 is a old school goth
2008-02-09 13:56 < TheWeasel> CCR
2008-02-09 13:56 < bumm13> it actually fits well with the rest of Agents of Fortune, thematically-speaking
2008-02-09 13:56 < bumm13> you know what goth band was horrible?
2008-02-09 13:57 < bumm13> [[45 Grave]]
2008-02-09 13:57 < bumm13> (from the early 80s L.A. punk scene)
2008-02-09 13:57 < Dp67> I'm more into the Britpop goth
2008-02-09 13:57 < bumm13> hmm
2008-02-09 13:57 * TheWeasel just re-read an 80s novel of his where Bullet For My Valentine were mentioned
2008-02-09 13:58 < bumm13> when I listened to some Stalk-Forrest Group tracks (proto-BÖC), it still sounded very much like they did later on
2008-02-09 13:58 < bumm13> only less experienced
2008-02-09 13:58 < bumm13> and a bit "milder"
2008-02-09 13:58 < TheWeasel> Even milder?
2008-02-09 13:58 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-09 13:58 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-09 13:59 < bumm13> most of those songs were so-so
2008-02-09 13:59 < bumm13> they were still working out the bugs ;)
2008-02-09 13:59 < TheWeasel> *Thin Lizzy - The Boys Are Back (1976)
2008-02-09 13:59 < TheWeasel> another such band
2008-02-09 14:00 < TheWeasel> not terribly fond of the song
2008-02-09 14:00 < bumm13> I need to listen to more early Thin Lizzy
2008-02-09 14:00 < bumm13> I guess Cliff Burton of Metallica was a huge Thin Lizzy fan
2008-02-09 14:01 < bumm13> he said "that's where he got all his good stuff from" ;)
2008-02-09 14:01 < Dp67> Frank Zappa.. The Jazz Punk.. e was and still is one of my favs
2008-02-09 14:01 < bumm13> it's funny how those two guys from The Turtles later joined the Mothers
2008-02-09 14:02 < TheWeasel> the funny thing is that he was a very order-loving man in private
2008-02-09 14:02 < TheWeasel> The Turtles!
2008-02-09 14:02 < TheWeasel> *The Turtles - Eleanor (ca. 1965)
2008-02-09 14:02 < bumm13> a tad underrated, they were
2008-02-09 14:02 < Dp67> the trogs
2008-02-09 14:03 < TheWeasel> Eleanor, gee, I think you're swell/and you really do me well/you're my pride and joy etc./Eleanor, can I take the time/to ask you to speak your mind/tell me that you'll love me bettah
2008-02-09 14:03 < TheWeasel> Timeless verses.
2008-02-09 14:03 < bumm13> "Kaylan and Volman (accompanied by Pons) joined the Mothers of Invention as "The Phlorescent Leech & Eddie", since the use of the Turtles name (and even their own names in billings) was prohibited by their contract with White Whale."
2008-02-09 14:04 < bumm13> "Frank Zappa claimed that his association with Kaylan and Volman was inspired by a DJ's comment that he could make the Mothers as big as the Turtles. 'If you want to be as big as the Turtles, have a few Turtles in your band,' Zappa reportedly claimed."
2008-02-09 14:04 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 14:04 < TheWeasel> "hey, dude, what you think about me?" "Gee, I think you're swell."
2008-02-09 14:04 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-02-09 14:05 < bumm13> hiya Fabexplosive
2008-02-09 14:05 < bumm13> Zappa was quite funny
2008-02-09 14:05 < Fabexplosive> hiho bumm13
2008-02-09 14:05 < TheWeasel> yea, but a rigidly sensible man underneath.
2008-02-09 14:05 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-02-09 14:05 < Dp67> He was.. More of a poet then Jim Morrison I have to say..
2008-02-09 14:06 < TheWeasel> I love the Doors though, I've never quite gotten into Zappa
2008-02-09 14:06 < TheWeasel> even though his musical creativity was far greater
2008-02-09 14:06 < TheWeasel> but then maybe it's my problem with progressive rock
2008-02-09 14:06 < TheWeasel> proficiency doesn't impress me that much
2008-02-09 14:07 < Dp67> He went to the same high school I did.. Sadly enough they never honored him until after he died.
2008-02-09 14:08 < bumm13> :(
2008-02-09 14:08 < TheWeasel> thats fun
2008-02-09 14:08 < TheWeasel> a friend of mine went to the same highschool as industrial pioneer Blixa Bargeld
2008-02-09 14:08 < TheWeasel> industrial as in music
2008-02-09 14:09 < bumm13> "Frank Zappa and the Mothers were at the best place around; but some stupid with a flaregun burned the place to the ground..."
2008-02-09 14:09 < Dp67> I even went to school with Toni Braxton... lol
2008-02-09 14:09 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 14:09 < bumm13> that's funny
2008-02-09 14:09 < bumm13> a capable R&B artist
2008-02-09 14:10 < TheWeasel> Unbreak My Heart was all the rage when I was thirteen
2008-02-09 14:10 < bumm13> famous people are rare where I'm from ;p
2008-02-09 14:10 < bumm13> although I wasn't that far south from the early "grunge" scene in Olympia/Seattle
2008-02-09 14:11 < TheWeasel> You'd have to travel all the way to Aberdeen, wouldn't you
2008-02-09 14:11 < bumm13> mmm, depends on how you look at it
2008-02-09 14:11 < bumm13> it's no surprise that Kurt Cobain came from such a place
2008-02-09 14:11 < bumm13> it's a real hole :P
2008-02-09 14:12 < Dp67> hole? he marries a hole
2008-02-09 14:12 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 14:12 < Dp67> married
2008-02-09 14:12 < bumm13> well, shithole :P
2008-02-09 14:12 < encoded> hi
2008-02-09 14:12 < Dp67> she is that too
2008-02-09 14:12 < bumm13> a run-down blue-collar coastal city with chronic unemployment and alcoholism
2008-02-09 14:12 < encoded> im having a severe problem
2008-02-09 14:13 < encoded> i cannot access wikipedia
2008-02-09 14:13 < bumm13> Courtney Love is basically from L.A.
2008-02-09 14:13 < bumm13> encoded: what continent are you located on?
2008-02-09 14:13 < encoded> i need help determining if its my ISP
2008-02-09 14:13 < TheWeasel> I can access it alright
2008-02-09 14:13 < encoded> bumm13, Puerto Rico, USA
2008-02-09 14:13 < bumm13> it's probably the ISP :P
2008-02-09 14:14 < bumm13> you're geographically closer to Tampa than I am
2008-02-09 14:14 < Dp67> no problems here
2008-02-09 14:14 < bumm13> (where WP's servers are located)
2008-02-09 14:14 < encoded> is there some way to be sure of this?
2008-02-09 14:14 < bumm13> and I'm in the U.S.
2008-02-09 14:14 * TheWeasel sees Dave Grohl has a moustache nowadays
2008-02-09 14:15 < Dp67> tracert Wikipedia.org and see where the chain breaks
2008-02-09 14:15 < Dp67> I'm in Michigan and have no troubles
2008-02-09 14:16 < bumm13> TheWeasel: Dave Grohl never impressed me much
2008-02-09 14:16 < bumm13> although he is a damn good drummer
2008-02-09 14:16 < TheWeasel> if that isn't being impressed...
2008-02-09 14:16 < TheWeasel> :-P
2008-02-09 14:17 < Dp67> do you know who 'Animal" (the muppets) was inspired by?
2008-02-09 14:17 < TheWeasel> he looks like George-bloody-Harrison!
2008-02-09 14:17 < bumm13> I always felt that Foo Fighters were always "almost really good" yet never really reached that point of being legendary
2008-02-09 14:17 < bumm13> heehee
2008-02-09 14:17 < TheWeasel> Guthrie later wrote a follow-up recounting how he learned that Richard Nixon had owned a copy of the song, and he jokingly suggested that this explained the famous 18½ minute gap in the Watergate tapes.
2008-02-09 14:17 < TheWeasel> Sorry
2008-02-09 14:17 < bumm13> Dp67: no idea
2008-02-09 14:17 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DaveGrohlphoto.jpg
2008-02-09 14:17 < Dp67> Mick Fleetwood
2008-02-09 14:17 < bumm13> o.o
2008-02-09 14:17 < bumm13> that's funny
2008-02-09 14:18 < Dp67> Fleetwood Mac
2008-02-09 14:18 < bumm13> is that supposed to imply that Fleetwood sucked as a drummer? ;)
2008-02-09 14:18 < Dp67> Hell no.. He's one of the best there is
2008-02-09 14:18 < bumm13> I know
2008-02-09 14:18 < bumm13> Animal's drumming is a bit.....chaotic :P
2008-02-09 14:18 < Dp67> Ginger Baker too
2008-02-09 14:18 < TheWeasel> the Foos are a sorta good band, but there are even worse semi-contemporary supergroups such as Audioslave
2008-02-09 14:19 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-09 14:19 < TheWeasel> *sorta mediocre
2008-02-09 14:19 < Dp67> Whadda ya expect for a puppet.. lol
2008-02-09 14:19 < bumm13> (to both Dp67 and Weasel)
2008-02-09 14:19 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-09 14:19 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-02-09 14:20 < bumm13> as good as Fleetwood is, he does the well of "subdued drum sound" effectively as part of the Nicks-era lineup
2008-02-09 14:20 < Dp67> Phil Collins, Neil Pert are also some of my fav drummers
2008-02-09 14:20 < bumm13> both are damn good
2008-02-09 14:20 < TheWeasel> I have a hard time judging drummers
2008-02-09 14:20 < TheWeasel> I don't really care
2008-02-09 14:20 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-09 14:20 < bumm13> *does the role of " " effectively
2008-02-09 14:21 < bumm13> Keith Moon and John Bonham could do some amazing stuff
2008-02-09 14:21 < encoded> http://rafb.net/p/cpSS1n79.html
2008-02-09 14:21 < bumm13> as for sheer talent, I'm no judge myself
2008-02-09 14:21 < encoded> trace of wikipedia.org
2008-02-09 14:21 < Dp67> lets not forget Rik Allen.. everonyones favorite one arm drummer
2008-02-09 14:21 < bumm13> careful not to flood, encoded
2008-02-09 14:21 < encoded> ?
2008-02-09 14:21 < bumm13> what band(s) did Allen drum for?
2008-02-09 14:21 < Dp67> Def Lepard
2008-02-09 14:22 < bumm13> encoded: were you going to paste the results of the traceroute here?
2008-02-09 14:22 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-02-09 14:22 < encoded> http://rafb.net/p/cpSS1n79.html
2008-02-09 14:22 < encoded> i just did.. >_<
2008-02-09 14:22 < bumm13> it's dying at your upstream end (one "step" above your ISP)
2008-02-09 14:22 < TheWeasel> I've rarely heard truly bad drumming, and so I don't much care
2008-02-09 14:23 < bumm13> yeah, such drummers aren't going to be around long in a good band
2008-02-09 14:23 < Dp67> It's your ISP.. you're not even getting past your ISP's server farm.
2008-02-09 14:23 < TheWeasel> I love the drumming in Ticket To Ride
2008-02-09 14:23 < TheWeasel> but really, I have no way of judging any performance
2008-02-09 14:24 < bumm13> for unique drumming, there's always Maureen Tucker (Velvet Underground)
2008-02-09 14:25 < encoded> what do i do now!?
2008-02-09 14:25 * encoded slashes wrists for wikipedia
2008-02-09 14:25 < bumm13> encoded: complain to your ISP
2008-02-09 14:25 < bumm13> eh, don't do that :P
2008-02-09 14:25 < bumm13> use a mirror
2008-02-09 14:25 < bumm13> or Google cache
2008-02-09 14:25 < bumm13> (editing will have to wait, sadly)
2008-02-09 14:25 * encoded explodes
2008-02-09 14:26 < bumm13> ick, messy
2008-02-09 14:26 < encoded> ok thx all
2008-02-09 14:26 < bumm13> no problem
2008-02-09 14:26 < bumm13> d'oh
2008-02-09 14:27 < bumm13> is that like Heartworm? :x
2008-02-09 14:30 < TheWeasel> *sudden and severe bout of tiredness
2008-02-09 14:30 < TheWeasel> another sign of a fatal illness!
2008-02-09 14:31 < bumm13> :(
2008-02-09 14:38 < geniice> it burns us
2008-02-09 14:38 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSEAS
2008-02-09 14:40 < Aqwis2> O_o
2008-02-09 14:41 * Fabexplosive goodnight
2008-02-09 14:43 < Dp67> heh, Microsoft Train Simulator sounds pretty awsome with a big woofer.. The locomotive sounds rattle the walls.. lol
2008-02-09 14:54 < Dp67> Tracy Chapman / AKA Buckwheats sister.. lol Haven't heard this song in ages
2008-02-09 15:21 < Snurglewozzle> /join #freenode
2008-02-09 15:22 < Cyrius> "I'm going to do some in-depth research on the subject and get back to you.
2008-02-09 15:22 < Cyrius> One Wikipedia... Two Wikipedia... Three Wikipedia..."
2008-02-09 15:23 < fale> Cyrius: one wikipedia, two wikipedias, three wikipediass
2008-02-09 15:23 < fale> :D
2008-02-09 15:23 < The359> ok, so I nominated two images for deletion 6 days ago, went through the whole Images and Media for Deletion process
2008-02-09 15:23 < The359> No one voted keep
2008-02-09 15:23 < The359> and yet...no one deleted them
2008-02-09 15:23 < Doc_glasgow> geniice: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WSEAS&diff=cur&oldid=prev
2008-02-09 15:29 < DragonFire1024> ok...Mark Bunker interview on Wikinews to be in #wikinews-interviews. Date and Time TBA
2008-02-09 15:30 < DragonFire1024> questions can still be asked
2008-02-09 15:30 < DragonFire1024> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Story_preparation/Wikinews_interviews_Mark_Bunker%2C_producer_of_anti-Scientology_website_%27XenuTV%27
2008-02-09 15:34 < kibble> ...
2008-02-09 15:34 < Dp67> get your boot on
2008-02-09 15:35 < DragonFire1024> o_o
2008-02-09 15:36 < kibble> Messedrocker: ?
2008-02-09 15:36 < Dp67> why no kick?
2008-02-09 15:36 < Messedrocker> to be fair he hasn't really done anything yet
2008-02-09 15:36 < kibble> Dp67: who would have gotten kicked?
2008-02-09 15:36 < DragonFire1024> who?
2008-02-09 15:36 < Messedrocker> "nigqers"
2008-02-09 15:37 < kibble> oh
2008-02-09 15:37 < kibble> :-/
2008-02-09 15:37 < DragonFire1024> ah
2008-02-09 15:37 * Messedrocker feels like inventing something neat
2008-02-09 15:38 < Messedrocker> how about an efficient means of storing thousands of discs
2008-02-09 15:39 < Messedrocker> so efficient, human hands can't use it
2008-02-09 15:39 < The359> we have that
2008-02-09 15:39 < The359> they're called Chinese slaves
2008-02-09 15:39 < LuciferTiger> The359: your point being that chinese != humans?
2008-02-09 15:40 < The359> no, that they're smart
2008-02-09 15:40 < LuciferTiger> ahh
2008-02-09 15:40 < The359> and good with numbers
2008-02-09 15:40 < Dp67> Convert a Jukebox into a file server.. Index the disks and call them up on demand
2008-02-09 15:40 < Dp67> It's been done before
2008-02-09 15:40 < Messedrocker> i guess i could make it into a jukebox of sorts
2008-02-09 15:40 < Messedrocker> or a little home theater
2008-02-09 15:41 < Messedrocker> specify the disc, it's pulled out of the library...
2008-02-09 15:41 < Messedrocker> but here's the thing. my dad has literally thousands of discs
2008-02-09 15:41 < Messedrocker> of music, movies, and all that
2008-02-09 15:41 < Messedrocker> i'd like to be able to recall whatever he has simply on demand
2008-02-09 15:41 < Messedrocker> rather than looking through his various books
2008-02-09 15:41 < AzaTht> fire in london!
2008-02-09 15:42 < Messedrocker> london bridge is burning down?
2008-02-09 15:42 < Dp67> A jukebox can do it.. All they are is a PC with a HD library and modified CDROM which I am sure can be changed to a DVD rom
2008-02-09 15:42 < DannyLilithborne> die Fergie die
2008-02-09 15:43 < Messedrocker> but how efficient are jukeboxes in storying discs
2008-02-09 15:43 < Messedrocker> storing
2008-02-09 15:44 < EyeBall> I thaught this would be the best place to ask this, Im looking for a channel that deals in e-commerce/web pages, do you know of any?
2008-02-09 15:44 < Dp67> very efficiant. I'm not sure about thousands but several humdred.
2008-02-09 15:44 < AzaTht> Camden Market it burning down
2008-02-09 15:45 < Messedrocker> Dp67, where may i find a picture of a jukebox's storage section?
2008-02-09 15:45 < Messedrocker> as in, what would i search for on google
2008-02-09 15:46 < Dp67> Messedrocker, Not sure..
2008-02-09 15:58 < nigqers> man i hate that goronochev guy
2008-02-09 15:58 < nigqers> aka smugfag
2008-02-09 16:01 < HairyDude> The Wikipedia database is temporarily in read-only mode for the following reason: $1
2008-02-09 16:01 < HairyDude> how wonderfully informative :)
2008-02-09 16:01 < Messedrocker> :D
2008-02-09 16:01 < nigqers> not enough moneys
2008-02-09 16:01 < Messedrocker> feed the wikipedia database a dollar and it'll go back into read-write
2008-02-09 16:02 < nigqers> yerps :d
2008-02-09 16:02 < HairyDude> they need >$1 eh? :)
2008-02-09 16:03 < }{obbes> Hehe.
2008-02-09 16:03 < Hello32020> wow really big fire in london
2008-02-09 16:08 * danopia only has 99 cents
2008-02-09 16:08 < danopia> will teh database accept that?
2008-02-09 16:08 < danopia> btw yes i'm bored
2008-02-09 16:10 * dungodung debores danopia
2008-02-09 16:11 < danopia> ouch taht hurts
2008-02-09 16:17 < geniice> Doc_glasgow ow
2008-02-09 16:33 < Gerrit> What should I do if a web source for a certain (claimed) fact is no longer available?
2008-02-09 16:33 < Gerrit> e.g.: discharge = 381 m³/s [http://www.secretcreeks.com/river_facts.htm?f] (for a river), but this link is now a 404
2008-02-09 16:33 < Gerrit> Should the factual claim be removed?
2008-02-09 16:35 < The359> webarchive
2008-02-09 16:35 < Gerrit> okay, will try
2008-02-09 16:36 < DragonFire1024> The date of the Wikinews interview with Mark Bunker of XenuTV is scheduled to take place on Saturday February 16, 2008 at 4:00 p.m. (eastern time) or 1:00 p.m. (pacific time) on the irc.freenode.net server in the channel #wikinews-interviews.
2008-02-09 16:36 < mavhc> Gerrit: has the page moved really?