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2008-02-08 03:39 < Mike_H> Brian McNeil is going to be interviewing Walter Cronkite.
2008-02-08 03:41 < OverlordQ> stupid writers strike
2008-02-08 03:41 < OverlordQ> tv has been sucking lately :(
2008-02-08 03:48 * BlastOButter42 oof
2008-02-08 03:49 * ancjr never liked tv much to begin with
2008-02-08 03:52 < Lady_Aleena> Hello all...general wiki software questions about what a sysop can do. Can a sysop put up a message somehow that everyone can see?
2008-02-08 04:10 < Mike_H> D:
2008-02-08 04:10 < Lady_Aleena> Mike, been here long?
2008-02-08 04:10 < Mike_H> I was in another channel
2008-02-08 04:10 < brown_cat> mind raping me
2008-02-08 04:10 < Lady_Aleena> Okay.
2008-02-08 04:10 < Miranda> Lady_Aleena: sorry...see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ADMIN
2008-02-08 04:11 < Lady_Aleena> Going now. Thank Miranda.
2008-02-08 04:11 < bumm13> meowf :o
2008-02-08 04:11 < Lady_Aleena> s/thank/thanks
2008-02-08 04:11 < Miranda> Lady_Aleena: :D
2008-02-08 04:12 < Mike_H> bumm13: Did I tell you we're trying to get Cristina for an interview?
2008-02-08 04:13 < Lady_Aleena> So, basically I can't put an annoying little message at the tops of all the pages to get the users' attention. Darn.
2008-02-08 04:14 < bumm13> no
2008-02-08 04:14 < Mike_H> bumm13: HI
2008-02-08 04:14 < Mike_H> I AM TALKING TO YOU!
2008-02-08 04:15 < Miranda> Lady_Aleena: not unless you are an admin...but...you can ask in #mediawiki how to start your own wiki
2008-02-08 04:16 < JessicaTaylor> brb dinner
2008-02-08 04:17 < Lady_Aleena> Miranda: I am a sysop on a little tiny wiki that doesn't have much set up yet by way of administrative pages. I am slowly working to help them get that up and running, but it is difficult. There isn't much of anything there yet.
2008-02-08 04:17 < Miranda> Lady_Aleena: on #wikimedia?
2008-02-08 04:17 < Miranda> oops on wikimedia?
2008-02-08 04:18 < Lady_Aleena> Miranda: No, on the little wiki that I am a sysop on.
2008-02-08 04:18 < Lady_Aleena> Non-wikimedia wiki based on wikimedia software.
2008-02-08 04:18 < Miranda> ah... Lady_Aleena, you might want to go to #mediawiki
2008-02-08 04:20 < Lady_Aleena> Miranda: It is just something that I was hoping that I could do that I had just not found the link to yet anywhere. I will just have to put a link to the adminstrative works in progress on the main page.
2008-02-08 04:20 < Miranda> Lady_Aleena: I am not good with PHP :-(
2008-02-08 04:20 < Lady_Aleena> Miranda: I am absolutely clueless when it comes to PHP. I can't even get Perl down, and it is supposedly simple.
2008-02-08 04:21 < Miranda> :-(
2008-02-08 04:22 < Lady_Aleena> Miranda: They didn't even have anything set up for deletion requests.
2008-02-08 04:22 < Lady_Aleena> And the names of things are so jumbled, it will take me forever to wrest some sense into them.
2008-02-08 04:25 < Lady_Aleena> Wikipedia (and sisters) has Afd, CfD, TfD, peer review, arbitration, village pumps, naming conventions, manuals of style, etc, etc, etc. The wiki I am talking about has none of that yet.
2008-02-08 04:30 < Miranda> Lady_Aleena: wikipedia was bare when it started in 2001
2008-02-08 04:30 < Miranda> similar to your wiki
2008-02-08 04:30 < Miranda> but it took time to grow
2008-02-08 04:30 < Miranda> into what it is today
2008-02-08 04:30 < Miranda> and a lot of contributors
2008-02-08 04:31 < Lady_Aleena> Well, it isn't mine, I am just a sysop. It has only two bureaucrats(sp).
2008-02-08 04:33 < Lubaf> We can dance if we want to.
2008-02-08 04:33 < Lubaf> \msg nockserv ghost ghost ghost
2008-02-08 04:34 < Lady_Aleena> We can leave your friends behind
2008-02-08 04:37 < JessicaTaylor> back
2008-02-08 04:38 < Lady_Aleena> Miranda: Are you on Wikipedia under the same name?
2008-02-08 04:38 < Miranda> yes
2008-02-08 04:38 < Miranda> [[User talk:Miranda]]
2008-02-08 04:38 < Lady_Aleena> Okaybees :)
2008-02-08 04:39 * Lady_Aleena puts [[User:Miranda|]] in the [[User:Lady Aleena/Dishwasher|dishwasher]].
2008-02-08 04:41 < Lady_Aleena> Okay, it isn't as funny these days. Oh well...
2008-02-08 05:02 * brown_cat cuddles Lady_Aleena
2008-02-08 05:03 * Lady_Aleena cuddles brown_cat and feels all warm and fuzzy. :)
2008-02-08 05:03 < brown_cat> :D
2008-02-08 05:03 < brown_cat> that's the gamma radiation :)
2008-02-08 05:09 * Lady_Aleena wonders if she can cope with gamma radiation. She shrugs and doesn't care. :)
2008-02-08 06:03 < Paine> What's this crap? http://valleywag.com/353698/107000-demand-wikipedia-remove-this-image-of-muhammad
2008-02-08 06:05 < Wile_E_Coyote> probably some lame thing related to the mulsims-vs-wikipedia war
2008-02-08 06:05 < Wile_E_Coyote> as reported on slashdot this morning: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/02/07/1651256.shtml
2008-02-08 06:07 < Paine> IFD?
2008-02-08 06:09 < Paine> good, none of them have had the brainsmarts to do it.
2008-02-08 06:11 < Paine> what's otrs?
2008-02-08 06:13 < Paine> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Maome.jpg <- hehe.
2008-02-08 06:13 < brown_cat> Mike_H: I looooove this pic soo much http://flickr.com/photos/coolz0r/331213239/in/photostream/
2008-02-08 06:15 < citm> where are all those linux experts?
2008-02-08 06:15 < brown_cat> in #linux
2008-02-08 06:17 < citm> well yeh, i just mean the ones i spoke to here
2008-02-08 06:17 < citm> but thanks :P
2008-02-08 06:17 * citm goes to find some more
2008-02-08 06:18 < Suva> I am Lunix Expert
2008-02-08 06:22 < ancjr> i am linux
2008-02-08 06:23 < ancjr> open sores
2008-02-08 06:23 < Suva> :P
2008-02-08 06:23 < brenneman> I'm a linus expert.
2008-02-08 06:23 < brenneman> I know all about the great pumpkin
2008-02-08 06:23 < Suva> I can configure sendmail!
2008-02-08 06:25 < Magnifier> Hi ya
2008-02-08 06:33 * Warpath huggles Miranda :DD
2008-02-08 06:41 < TheWeasel> Right-o.
2008-02-08 06:45 < level09> Hi room
2008-02-08 06:47 < Timbo> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tremulous&action=history the edits by 85.104.*.* (ttnet.net.tr) are by tremulous's token troll
2008-02-08 06:47 < Timbo> for what it's worth
2008-02-08 06:48 < level09> I have an "English" question
2008-02-08 06:49 < TheWeasel> go ahead
2008-02-08 06:49 < level09> what is the "intro video of a series" called?
2008-02-08 06:49 < level09> I mean the video that plays at the start of any tv series
2008-02-08 06:49 < Timbo> the pilot
2008-02-08 06:50 < level09> Thanks Timbo
2008-02-08 06:50 < TheWeasel> video as in a whole episode?
2008-02-08 06:50 < TheWeasel> ok
2008-02-08 06:50 < TheWeasel> :-/
2008-02-08 06:50 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-08 06:50 < level09> no
2008-02-08 06:50 < level09> just the video of the beginning
2008-02-08 06:50 < TheWeasel> Opening credits?
2008-02-08 06:50 < level09> I wanted to search the internet for "making of" the pilot of some TV series
2008-02-08 06:51 < TheWeasel> I'd say you want the opening credits maybe?
2008-02-08 06:51 < level09> yes maybe
2008-02-08 06:51 < TheWeasel> hah good luck there
2008-02-08 06:51 < level09> the part where the main actors names appear
2008-02-08 06:51 < level09> before the series actually starts
2008-02-08 06:51 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-08 06:51 < TheWeasel> Opening credits
2008-02-08 06:52 < TheWeasel> we even have an article on it
2008-02-08 06:52 < level09> thanks the weasel , I will try opening credits and pilot
2008-02-08 06:52 < TheWeasel> Yea, I think you want the first :-)
2008-02-08 06:52 < TheWeasel> Pilot is the introductory episode of a series
2008-02-08 06:52 < TheWeasel> usually longer than the rest
2008-02-08 06:53 < arcimboldo_> It's the fast forward invitation.
2008-02-08 06:53 < level09> no problem I will search both
2008-02-08 06:53 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-02-08 06:54 < level09> I am working on a pilot and wanted to research how they make them
2008-02-08 06:54 < TheWeasel> as I said, I don't think you want a pilot.
2008-02-08 06:54 < TheWeasel> but then, try your luck
2008-02-08 06:54 < level09> like the pilot of "prison break" "lost" and "desperate housewives"
2008-02-08 06:54 < level09> thanks
2008-02-08 06:56 < TheWeasel> I'll bbl
2008-02-08 06:57 < TheWeasel> I hate the OCs of 80s family comedy series, where people turn to grin at the camera when its their turn
2008-02-08 07:13 < elusive_p> \
2008-02-08 07:16 < TheWeasel> there is no way France is going to give up its WMD right now
2008-02-08 07:16 < TheWeasel> Sar,l
2008-02-08 07:16 < justlee> france?
2008-02-08 07:16 < TheWeasel> Sarko's girlfriend Carla Bruni said she wants a man with the finger on the trigger of nukes
2008-02-08 07:16 < TheWeasel> and why would he put his relationship in danger?
2008-02-08 07:17 < TheWeasel> France.
2008-02-08 07:18 < TheWeasel> ..over something as petty as the wholesale destruction of the planet?
2008-02-08 07:38 < juxo> it's shit scary what those beasts that share two characteristics of humans (they look like naked humans and company makes alike, other then that they are just binary code and data) are doing to humankind. some lives get badly hurt and other people are just turning becoming less humane because they confuse real people with some things that just look human
2008-02-08 07:40 < justlee> declaring a subgroup non-human is the first step to genocide.
2008-02-08 07:45 < juxo> where do you think those idiot guards at abu ghraib got their ideas? from real interrogation methods involving synthetic rape scenes used by USA govt on prisoners in guantanamo that have driven the remaining inmates totally insane. that shit needs to stop.
2008-02-08 07:47 < juxo> btw bad things are known to happen to ppl who speak of these but usa govt condoning using the beasts of the revelations for interrogation purposes will surely backfire in a very bad way
2008-02-08 07:50 < Aqwis> ok
2008-02-08 07:51 < Aqwis> i thought the catholic church was behind this, not the US government
2008-02-08 07:51 < juxo> digicracy has developed a new meaning since 2000 when human reflectance field which is required for rendering characters so realistic that they can be confused with real people was aquired
2008-02-08 08:02 < Warpath> woo now[[ Kirsten Dunst]] is in rehab o_O
2008-02-08 08:02 < Warpath> American girls are stupid
2008-02-08 08:02 * Warpath hides
2008-02-08 08:02 < Huntster> and people wonder why I like asian girls over american ones.
2008-02-08 08:05 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hi all
2008-02-08 08:05 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I would just like to warn anyone who was thinking of seeing "Fool's Gold"... don't.
2008-02-08 08:05 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> thank you
2008-02-08 08:06 < bumm13> :\
2008-02-08 08:10 < KFP> Heh.
2008-02-08 08:13 < Magnifier> Asian Girls?
2008-02-08 08:13 < Magnifier> Which country?
2008-02-08 08:14 < Huntster> Magnifier, no serious preference, but my first girlfriend was Vietnamese (if that's what you are asking)
2008-02-08 08:14 < Magnifier> Ya
2008-02-08 08:14 < Magnifier> And I am a Vietnamese, too
2008-02-08 08:15 < Huntster> very nice :)
2008-02-08 08:15 < Warpath> :O
2008-02-08 08:15 < Huntster> ?
2008-02-08 08:15 < Warpath> wow TBSDY made no sense O_O
2008-02-08 08:17 < arcimboldo_> Is Magnifier female?
2008-02-08 08:18 < Magnifier> mele :D
2008-02-08 08:18 < Magnifier> male
2008-02-08 08:18 < arcimboldo_> ok, just *almost* a match.
2008-02-08 08:18 < Magnifier> :D
2008-02-08 08:18 * Huntster glances at arcimboldo uncertainly...
2008-02-08 08:19 < Magnifier> TBSDY <--- Can i ask what is that ?
2008-02-08 08:21 < bumm13> ta_bu_shi_da_yu
2008-02-08 08:21 < Magnifier> =/
2008-02-08 08:24 < Magnifier> after several research in Google, I still can't understand :D ta bu shi da yu
2008-02-08 08:25 < bumm13> it's a WP user (and IRC nick)
2008-02-08 08:25 < bumm13> those are Japanese phonemes written in Latin letters
2008-02-08 08:26 < slashem> no, it is chinese
2008-02-08 08:26 < slashem> and it is pinyin
2008-02-08 08:27 < Magnifier> This user is no longer active on Wikipedia.
2008-02-08 08:27 < Magnifier> :D
2008-02-08 08:28 < Magnifier> He is a popular editor
2008-02-08 08:29 < TheWeasel> I am no longer infected!
2008-02-08 08:29 * slashem has bronchitis
2008-02-08 08:32 < Magnifier> Wikipedia has a lot of exciting story :)
2008-02-08 08:32 * White_Cat infects TheWeasel with pokerus
2008-02-08 08:32 < TheWeasel> Drrrrop your panties, Sir William, I cannot wait till lunchtime!
2008-02-08 08:35 < Magnifier> Mr Weasel, as a newcomer of Wikipedia, can I interview you ?
2008-02-08 08:35 < TheWeasel> o.o
2008-02-08 08:35 < TheWeasel> I'm not much of a Wikipedia insider really
2008-02-08 08:35 < Aqwis> you should interview NotACow
2008-02-08 08:36 < Magnifier> Oh, I see :\
2008-02-08 08:36 < Miranda> you should interview me
2008-02-08 08:36 < Miranda> haha
2008-02-08 08:36 < Miranda> j/k
2008-02-08 08:36 < Magnifier> Can a handicap prevent Wikipedia from greatness?
2008-02-08 08:36 < Miranda> meh all I do is grab celeb images
2008-02-08 08:36 < TheWeasel> Aqwis: You want him to plunge into a deep depression.
2008-02-08 08:36 < Aqwis> :)
2008-02-08 08:36 < Miranda> turn them into free licenses
2008-02-08 08:37 < TheWeasel> Wikipedia is already prevented from greatness by the inherent handicaps of its process
2008-02-08 08:37 < TheWeasel> But I guess realistic goals help
2008-02-08 08:38 < Magnifier> Ok, thanks
2008-02-08 08:38 < TheWeasel> and for some people, the idea alone is what makes it great, not necessarily all of the results.
2008-02-08 08:39 < Aqwis> and the definition of a "great" encylopaedia varies
2008-02-08 08:39 < Aqwis> some want it be as reliable as possible, or cover as many topics as possible, etc
2008-02-08 08:39 < TheWeasel> Even more so the definition of a great project with an encyclopedia-like result
2008-02-08 08:40 < TheWeasel> I think NotACow is right when she says Wikipedia needs to concentrate on what it's good at, and not stick too much to classical notions of encyclopaedicity
2008-02-08 08:41 < Aqwis> indeed
2008-02-08 08:41 < TheWeasel> because we're pretty obviously worse than the large tomes in the dead white men subjects.
2008-02-08 08:41 < Aqwis> i think it's wrong to call Wikipedia an encylopaedia, but that's not a bad thing
2008-02-08 08:41 < arcimboldo_> And now same question to Mr. Obama please.
2008-02-08 08:42 < TheWeasel> He's still on his WP:CHANGE tour.
2008-02-08 08:42 < bumm13> Wikipedia is an encyclowiki ;)
2008-02-08 08:43 < TheWeasel> And if we all come together across party lines, Macedonians and Greeks, Turks and Armenians, Serbs and Albanians, there IS NO LIMIT to Wikimerica's greatness!
2008-02-08 08:43 < ancjr> i am a poor editor :(
2008-02-08 08:43 < TheWeasel> I
2008-02-08 08:44 < arcimboldo_> But that will only happen if you support my party against the others.
2008-02-08 08:44 < TheWeasel> am an editor who is also poor
2008-02-08 08:44 < Aqwis> wikipedia is everything2, just serious business
2008-02-08 08:44 < TheWeasel> And what is Ed Poor then?
2008-02-08 08:44 < ancjr> TheWeasel: :D
2008-02-08 08:44 < bumm13> one who is poor at editing ;p
2008-02-08 08:44 < TheWeasel> Oh, I forgot, Conservapedia editor.
2008-02-08 08:45 < ancjr> i am poor at editing
2008-02-08 08:45 < TheWeasel> réalité conservatrice.
2008-02-08 08:45 < TheWeasel> heh, coming to think of it, I'm sure Ann Coulter has been called a "conservatrix"
2008-02-08 08:46 < TheWeasel> anyway, brb.
2008-02-08 08:46 < multichil> Hi people, any idea where the people from id wikipedia hang out on irc?
2008-02-08 08:46 < TheWeasel> what is id?
2008-02-08 08:46 < arcimboldo_> Bahasa Indonesia I believe
2008-02-08 08:46 < multichil> Indonesian
2008-02-08 08:46 < TheWeasel> o right
2008-02-08 08:47 < multichil> (yes i tried #wikipedia-id, its empty)
2008-02-08 08:47 < TheWeasel> if there isn't a special one in the channel list, your best chance might be here
2008-02-08 08:47 < slashem> yeah maybe not enough users on IRC
2008-02-08 08:47 < TheWeasel> "Do stay with us, still to come: Why Wikipedia is not so great, and the latest stock quotes."
2008-02-08 08:48 < TheWeasel> *commercial break*
2008-02-08 08:48 < arcimboldo_> The audience is already switching off
2008-02-08 08:48 < ancjr> :)
2008-02-08 08:49 < Magnifier> <multichil> Wikipedia-vi is also empty
2008-02-08 08:49 < Magnifier> #Wikipedia-vi
2008-02-08 08:49 < ancjr> what is a good way to discuss the scope of an article
2008-02-08 08:50 < Magnifier> alomost all members (induce admins) use Yahoo MEssenger
2008-02-08 08:50 < Magnifier> not IRC :/
2008-02-08 08:50 < ancjr> i have a yahoo
2008-02-08 08:51 < TheWeasel> Yahoo Messenger is evil
2008-02-08 08:51 < Magnifier> but Yahoo can't make a Wikipedia look like a comunity
2008-02-08 08:51 < ancjr> is there a wikipedia singles group?
2008-02-08 08:51 < Magnifier> yeah
2008-02-08 08:51 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-02-08 08:51 < ancjr> :)
2008-02-08 08:51 < Magnifier> I'm a single Wikipedian :(
2008-02-08 08:51 * ancjr too
2008-02-08 08:51 * Warpath 3
2008-02-08 08:52 < ancjr> but i always fight with other editors, so i don't know if seeking a relationship with one would be a good thing
2008-02-08 08:52 < ancjr> :>
2008-02-08 08:52 < Magnifier> except in vi.Wikipedia.org
2008-02-08 08:52 < Magnifier> I have no contact :D
2008-02-08 08:52 * brown_cat jumps onto Warpath
2008-02-08 08:52 < Warpath> O_O
2008-02-08 08:52 * brown_cat sulks
2008-02-08 08:53 * Warpath renames brown_cat to brown_kitten :|
2008-02-08 08:53 < TheWeasel> Oh, being called a "racist with a seething hate for *ethnic background A* but a servile deference to *ethnic background B*" is quite a turn on really.
2008-02-08 08:55 < TheWeasel> Heh, Vista doesn't like installing fonts.
2008-02-08 08:55 < bumm13> arg, Vista
2008-02-08 08:55 < ancjr> look at me and how i slice and dice other editors [[Talk:Loudspeaker]]
2008-02-08 08:55 < multichil> Magnifier : I guess most of the smaller wiki's have no real irc channel.
2008-02-08 08:55 < Magnifier> yeah
2008-02-08 08:55 < Magnifier> It's alway empty
2008-02-08 08:56 < Magnifier> athough i have 60k member :o
2008-02-08 08:56 < Magnifier> It have 60k member
2008-02-08 08:57 < Magnifier> IRC used to popular in Vietnam until the Invasion of Yahoo Messnger :D
2008-02-08 08:58 < ancjr> ICQ/Yahoo/MSN/AIM did contribute to the demise of IRC
2008-02-08 08:58 < TheWeasel> Yahoo Messenger dominates in Asia really
2008-02-08 08:58 < TheWeasel> but almost nowhere else
2008-02-08 08:59 < ancjr> in general
2008-02-08 08:59 < TheWeasel> ICQ is strangely popular in Europe
2008-02-08 08:59 < TheWeasel> AIM in America
2008-02-08 08:59 < TheWeasel> ICQ does seem Germany-specific to me sometimes
2008-02-08 08:59 < multichil> I used to use ICQ a lot untill most of the people started using MSN. Never really stopped using irc
2008-02-08 08:59 < TheWeasel> it's pretty much as popular as MSN here
2008-02-08 09:00 < TheWeasel> I have an old version of AIM which serves me perfectly well
2008-02-08 09:00 < TheWeasel> it's my favorite client of all messengers
2008-02-08 09:00 < loader> Hello
2008-02-08 09:01 < multichil> I just use trillian to keep my icq account alive
2008-02-08 09:01 < TheWeasel> I've come to dislike Trillian
2008-02-08 09:01 < TheWeasel> I dunno
2008-02-08 09:01 < ancjr> same here - all my friends left icq
2008-02-08 09:01 < ancjr> i have no idea why i keep the account active
2008-02-08 09:02 < TheWeasel> *Them - Something You Got (1965-ish)
2008-02-08 09:02 < loader> is ICQ so bad?
2008-02-08 09:02 < loader> and why?
2008-02-08 09:02 < ancjr> ICQ isn't "bad" i simply have no contacts left
2008-02-08 09:03 < multichil> Nothing wrong with icq (except maybe the spam), but the point of a chat program is to chat with someone ;-)
2008-02-08 09:03 < TheWeasel> It's just infrequently used outside of my country, and most of my contacts are the people I don't call on the phone
2008-02-08 09:03 < loader> <TheWeasel> where are you from?
2008-02-08 09:03 < TheWeasel> Germany
2008-02-08 09:03 < TheWeasel> probably the last bastion of ICQness
2008-02-08 09:03 < loader> I knew many peoples are using ICQ here.
2008-02-08 09:04 < loader> I'm in Ukraine
2008-02-08 09:04 < multichil> Its from Israel isnt it?
2008-02-08 09:04 < loader> Yes, it is jewish programm
2008-02-08 09:04 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-08 09:04 < ancjr> ICJew
2008-02-08 09:04 < loader> :)
2008-02-08 09:05 < multichil> I dont think it's jewish, it would shut down on saturdays ;-)
2008-02-08 09:07 < ancjr> whose saturday?
2008-02-08 09:07 < multichil> Shabbat you know
2008-02-08 09:08 < ancjr> yes but there are time zones
2008-02-08 09:11 < loader> They will use jewish timezone
2008-02-08 09:11 < loader> :)
2008-02-08 09:14 < ancjr> JST
2008-02-08 09:14 < loader> lol
2008-02-08 09:14 < Leslie_school> i am so tired :(
2008-02-08 09:14 < ancjr> me too
2008-02-08 09:14 < Leslie_school> i should buy an energy drink
2008-02-08 09:14 < ancjr> crazy weather is getting to me
2008-02-08 09:15 < Leslie_school> ancjr im at school, meaning i woke up about 4 hours earlier than normal
2008-02-08 09:15 < TheWeasel> I was just about to go get one too.
2008-02-08 09:15 < loader> Eat chocolate
2008-02-08 09:15 < loader> It helps
2008-02-08 09:16 < loader> Much better than those 'red bulls' and 'burns'
2008-02-08 09:16 < bumm13> ick, Red Bull is horrid
2008-02-08 09:16 < Leslie_school> loader im in a location where i cant really buy anything but liquids
2008-02-08 09:17 < loader> Buy coffee
2008-02-08 09:17 < brown_kitten> ewwww
2008-02-08 09:17 < Leslie_school> ....cold liquids
2008-02-08 09:17 < TheWeasel> Red Bull has those fascinating self-cooling cans though
2008-02-08 09:17 < brown_kitten> the godaddy girls are fugly
2008-02-08 09:17 < brown_kitten> my eyes are bleeding
2008-02-08 09:17 < Leslie_school> and i cant drink coffee because if i drink too much of it, ill get sick, and i just drank a bunch of cappuchino.
2008-02-08 09:18 < loader> and cappuchino doesnt work?
2008-02-08 09:18 < loader> right?
2008-02-08 09:18 < loader> :)
2008-02-08 09:18 < Leslie_school> cappuchino is what makes me sick if i drink much
2008-02-08 09:19 < Magnifier> I use salt and water: it's the cheapest energy drink :P
2008-02-08 09:19 < Leslie_school> i cant drink coffee without making it into cappuchino
2008-02-08 09:19 < loader> I have drank too much coffee today...
2008-02-08 09:19 < Leslie_school> anyway, im 10 feet from a cold liquid vending machine...and 1000 feet from the bookstore, and about 2000 feet from my car...
2008-02-08 09:19 < loader> What car do you have?
2008-02-08 09:19 < Magnifier> In Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) people usually drink about two cups of caffe a day
2008-02-08 09:20 < Leslie_school> ...why? are you stalking me? ARE YOU THE INSTRUCTOR BEHIND ME?
2008-02-08 09:20 < Leslie_school> omg, its kevin!
2008-02-08 09:20 < loader> nope
2008-02-08 09:20 < Leslie_school> lol
2008-02-08 09:20 < loader> I just asked
2008-02-08 09:20 < Leslie_school> i drive a 1986 volvo 245DL
2008-02-08 09:20 < Leslie_school> assembled in sweden for the north american market
2008-02-08 09:21 < ancjr> oh noes
2008-02-08 09:21 < ancjr> volvo driver!
2008-02-08 09:21 < loader> :)
2008-02-08 09:21 * ancjr hides
2008-02-08 09:21 < Leslie_school> BLOODY VOLVO DRIVER!!!
2008-02-08 09:22 * ancjr misses his 1985 rx-7 gsl
2008-02-08 09:23 < ancjr> but my f-150 gets better milage :)
2008-02-08 09:23 < Leslie_school> than an rx7?
2008-02-08 09:24 < Leslie_school> omg
2008-02-08 09:24 < ancjr> yeah
2008-02-08 09:24 < Leslie_school> if the f150 is diesel it gets the same milage as my car
2008-02-08 09:24 < Leslie_school> ;p
2008-02-08 09:24 < ancjr> according to howw i drove it - the rx-7 got a low as 12mpg
2008-02-08 09:24 < ancjr> and i drove it like i stole it :>
2008-02-08 09:25 < ancjr> the f-160 gets 16-18mpg
2008-02-08 09:25 < ancjr> f150
2008-02-08 09:25 < ancjr> gas
2008-02-08 09:26 < brown_kitten> women can use computers O_o next they will be playing sport
2008-02-08 09:26 * brown_kitten slaps himself
2008-02-08 09:26 < brown_kitten> srry, wrong channel
2008-02-08 09:27 < Snowolf> :)
2008-02-08 09:27 * brown_kitten hugs Snowolf
2008-02-08 09:27 < justlee> where is a channek where that remark belongs?
2008-02-08 09:28 < Lesli_school> WTF
2008-02-08 09:28 < Snowolf> justlee: #defocus, maybe
2008-02-08 09:28 < Lesli_school> my IP address got re-assigned while i was connected, and i never got disconnected from the wifi.
2008-02-08 09:32 < TheWeasel> It's fairly cold 'ere.
2008-02-08 09:32 < TheWeasel> Brb.
2008-02-08 09:33 * brown_kitten gives TheWeasel a heater
2008-02-08 09:34 * loader waves brown_kitten
2008-02-08 09:34 * brown_kitten cuddles loader
2008-02-08 09:34 < TheWeasel> fanks
2008-02-08 09:34 < brown_kitten> I can't pm, nick not registered :(
2008-02-08 09:35 < ancjr> watch this
2008-02-08 09:35 < loader> hmmm register them
2008-02-08 09:35 * White_Cat heats TheWeasel up
2008-02-08 09:36 * White_Cat throws in a molotov cocktail
2008-02-08 09:36 < loader> wow
2008-02-08 09:36 < loader> Why are you thorwing so precious things?
2008-02-08 09:36 < loader> :D
2008-02-08 09:36 < TheWeasel> Not only is that firing me up, it's also bringing the noise
2008-02-08 09:37 < ancjr> i went to skool once
2008-02-08 09:37 < Leslie_skool> lol
2008-02-08 09:38 < Leslie_skool> obviously im doing really serious skool werk here
2008-02-08 09:38 < ancjr> dats were i lern to spoll
2008-02-08 09:39 < ancjr> dey as me nawt to came back no more
2008-02-08 09:40 < ancjr> i should prolly become productive in some small way
2008-02-08 09:40 < ancjr> it being almost 10am and all
2008-02-08 09:40 < TheWeasel> "if you're a lesbian, how come you turn me on?" (Stephen Colbert)
2008-02-08 09:40 * TheWeasel is on the wrong computer for productivity as of yet
2008-02-08 09:41 < TheWeasel> but to get the right one, I'd have to drive for 45 minutes, which I do not feel like doing
2008-02-08 09:42 < brown_kitten> TheWeasel: I see you also like colbert
2008-02-08 09:42 * brown_kitten <3s him :p
2008-02-08 09:43 < TheWeasel> It's all about the folks.
2008-02-08 09:43 < TheWeasel> no self-aggrandizement there, no siree.
2008-02-08 09:43 < TheWeasel> Either way, I'll brb.
2008-02-08 09:44 < loader> How are you kitten?
2008-02-08 09:47 < TheWeasel> "Al Gore endorsed Howard Dean today, dealing a severe blow to Dean's campaign..." (Rob Corddry, from memory, ca. 2004)
2008-02-08 09:47 * TheWeasel is off to dig up old DS quotes
2008-02-08 09:48 < loader> who Howard Dean?
2008-02-08 09:48 < TheWeasel> American politician.
2008-02-08 09:48 < TheWeasel> ran for Presidential nomination in 2004.
2008-02-08 09:49 < loader> Aaah
2008-02-08 09:49 < loader> But Bush was cheeky
2008-02-08 09:49 < loader> :)
2008-02-08 09:54 * brown_kitten throws toast at TheWeasel
2008-02-08 09:55 < arcimboldo_> well, basically Dean threw himself out of the race before he could even compete with Bush.
2008-02-08 09:55 * TheWeasel butters self in anticipation
2008-02-08 09:55 < TheWeasel> Yea, the Dean Scream
2008-02-08 09:56 < TheWeasel> It was just the feeling then that associating with Gore was pretty much suicide
2008-02-08 09:58 * TheWeasel needs to go to work but would have to retrieve a cable somewhere in the wild.
2008-02-08 10:16 < cimon> Did Paul Anka have a song called "Delilah" =
2008-02-08 10:16 < cimon> ?
2008-02-08 10:17 * brown_cat_nap sleeps in front of the fire
2008-02-08 10:20 < loader> Don't singe your wool, Kitty.
2008-02-08 10:21 * brown_cat_nap won't
2008-02-08 10:25 * loader scratches brown_cat_nap at ear
2008-02-08 10:26 < TheWeasel> Delilah is by Tom Jones, isn't it
2008-02-08 10:26 < bumm13> Paul Anka sang "Diana"
2008-02-08 10:26 < loader> ??
2008-02-08 10:26 < TheWeasel> and now there's this song by the guy who can't play guitar, of the same name
2008-02-08 10:26 < loader> Ah yes it is Tom's
2008-02-08 10:29 < TheWeasel> Wonderful Samson
2008-02-08 10:29 < TheWeasel> or was it beautiful?
2008-02-08 10:30 * TheWeasel hates the absence of proper flight tracking in Europe
2008-02-08 10:30 < TheWeasel> ie radar-based
2008-02-08 10:30 < TheWeasel> me
2008-02-08 10:31 * TheWeasel watches his engine in wonderment as it plays 3...d5!
2008-02-08 10:31 < TheWeasel> very active gambit.
2008-02-08 10:33 < TheWeasel> ah... White finds a way to refute, too bad.
2008-02-08 10:39 * TheWeasel kiebitzes on Ivanchuk vs Kasimdzhanov
2008-02-08 10:40 < TheWeasel> Chucky is apparently fine with a draw
2008-02-08 11:30 < TheWeasel> heh, another Wollstonecraft FA
2008-02-08 11:30 < TheWeasel> she's awesome
2008-02-08 11:30 < TheWeasel> the sort of uppity women this world needs more of
2008-02-08 11:38 < NotACow> mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
2008-02-08 11:38 < Aqwis2> moo.
2008-02-08 11:40 < slashem> too much gas?
2008-02-08 11:41 < slashem> four stomachs?
2008-02-08 11:41 < slashem> lactose intolerant?
2008-02-08 11:53 < CharlotteWebb> heh
2008-02-08 11:53 < NotACow> moo
2008-02-08 11:54 < NotACow> a long moo has only one meaning
2008-02-08 11:54 < NotACow> it means a rumination has occured
2008-02-08 11:55 < NotACow> ifconfig eth01 down
2008-02-08 11:56 < slashem> FREE BRITNEY!!!
2008-02-08 11:56 < NotACow> BREE FRITNEY
2008-02-08 11:56 < placebo_effect> BRITNEYS FREE
2008-02-08 11:56 < slashem> oh yeh, sorry
2008-02-08 11:56 < NotACow> no, she's only semifree
2008-02-08 11:56 < NotACow> she's still legally an infant
2008-02-08 12:00 < Warpath> LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE !!! ;)
2008-02-08 12:02 < TheWeasel> Every time you mention that video, God ritually slaughters a kitten.
2008-02-08 12:03 * TheWeasel looks on some fairly desperate and pitiful moves
2008-02-08 12:04 < TheWeasel> Cause I'm free/to do what I want/in any old town
2008-02-08 12:10 * TheWeasel loves how Czech transcribes German z wit c
2008-02-08 12:10 < TheWeasel> Stl
2008-02-08 12:11 < TheWeasel> Stolc = Stolz
2008-02-08 12:11 < TheWeasel> sorry for the garble, not used to the keyboard
2008-02-08 12:12 < GaryKing> Hi guys, where is the location of en.wikipedia.org's index.php? is it en.wikipedia.org/index.php?
2008-02-08 12:12 < TheWeasel> My ring and pinky finger touch keys I didn't even know existed
2008-02-08 12:13 < TheWeasel> I don't know precisely, but you usually have .../wiki/... in between
2008-02-08 12:13 < GaryKing> TheWeasel: yeah, I figured, but that would bring up the index.php article
2008-02-08 12:13 < TheWeasel> oh.
2008-02-08 12:13 < TheWeasel> okay
2008-02-08 12:14 < Snowolf> GaryKing: en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php
2008-02-08 12:14 < Snowolf> the /wiki/ is a apache rewrite
2008-02-08 12:19 < Phoenix-wiki> There's an update of firefox out! 1.13!
2008-02-08 12:20 < gwern> ooh, the audit is finally out
2008-02-08 12:20 < gwern> that should make for interesting reading
2008-02-08 12:20 < gwern> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_2007_fs.pdf
2008-02-08 13:02 < NotACow> moo
2008-02-08 13:07 < placebo_effect> wikipedia, apply directly to forehead
2008-02-08 13:09 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-02-08 13:09 < CharlotteWebb> [[HeadOn]] looks like it belongs on uncyclopedia
2008-02-08 13:09 < Ceiling_Cat> placebo_effect - wikipedia is not recommended for internal use
2008-02-08 13:09 < placebo_effect> but its real
2008-02-08 13:10 < Ceiling_Cat> if you experience paranoia, split personality, uncontrollable fits of rage, hot flashes, or irratable bowel syndrome, please consult a physciian immediately
2008-02-08 13:10 * placebo_effect == headon
2008-02-08 13:10 < CharlotteWebb> my personality split a long time ago, haven't seen it since
2008-02-08 13:11 * cimon swallows one wikipedia with a glass of water...
2008-02-08 13:11 < placebo_effect> cimon: NOt for internal use
2008-02-08 13:11 < Aqwis> tastes awful, doesn't it cimon
2008-02-08 13:12 * Ceiling_Cat prefers the sweet, sweet tastes of children's tears of sadness
2008-02-08 13:12 < cimon> Aqwis: kind of furry and yucky...
2008-02-08 13:12 < CharlotteWebb> side effects may include replication lag, editcountitis, and database dumps
2008-02-08 13:13 < placebo_effect> sockpuppets, spewing untrue facts.....
2008-02-08 13:13 < placebo_effect> and not database dumps, we havent gotten one of those in a while
2008-02-08 13:13 < cimon> placebo_effect: I already feel like I am breaking out in sockpuppets, as we speak...
2008-02-08 13:14 < placebo_effect> here, let me help
2008-02-08 13:14 * placebo_effect hands cimon some Uncyclopedia
2008-02-08 13:17 < cimon> gwern: my favorite understatement of the audit is: "A substantial number of volunteers make significant contributions of their time in the furtherance of the Organizations projects. The value of this contribution is not reflected in the accompanying financial statements, since it is not susceptible to objective measurement."
2008-02-08 13:17 < CharlotteWebb> otherwise it would be taxable, surely
2008-02-08 13:18 < cimon> =)
2008-02-08 13:19 < placebo_effect> hey! thats me!!
2008-02-08 13:25 < gwern> cimon: I like the understatement
2008-02-08 13:25 < gwern> 'substantial'
2008-02-08 13:26 < gwern> 'significant'
2008-02-08 13:26 < cimon> From the house of lulz: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Royal_Marriages_Act_of_1772#Farran_exemption
2008-02-08 13:26 < gwern> and I think it is so susceptible, in the same way you can value donated code - how much would it cost to commercially develop the same content?
2008-02-08 13:27 < gwern> cimon: zomg royalty-cruft
2008-02-08 13:28 < gwern> seriously, if you saw that in something about something (equally) fictional like star wars, the deletionists would be all over it as OR and -cruft
2008-02-08 13:28 < cimon> gwern: to be honest, "Substantial" should be "enormous" and "significant" should be "irreplacable"
2008-02-08 13:30 < gwern> cimon: I would replace significant with 'EVERYTHING comes from volunteers, btw', which would help emphasize it
2008-02-08 13:30 < gwern> the foundation exists to serve the community, not the other way around
2008-02-08 13:30 < TheWeasel> O Moloch!
2008-02-08 13:31 < gwern> Mmm... human sacrifice...
2008-02-08 13:31 < nerdygurl> hallo.
2008-02-08 13:32 < Snowolf> hi nerdygurl
2008-02-08 13:32 < gwern> Moloch will DEVOUR your young - in a nice plum sauce pls
2008-02-08 13:32 * CharlotteWebb is probably nerdier
2008-02-08 13:33 * nerdygurl doubts
2008-02-08 13:33 < TheWeasel> Are we having a nerdicity contest?
2008-02-08 13:34 < nerdygurl> I filled out a nerd test but couldn't submit because javascript was disabled
2008-02-08 13:34 < gwern> huh. I wonder what 'investment income' the foundation has that kicks in 38k? interest?
2008-02-08 13:35 < TheWeasel> That's the cocain deals.
2008-02-08 13:35 < TheWeasel> *e
2008-02-08 13:35 < CharlotteWebb> i was called nerdy for using footnote refs in some of my rants on the mailing list
2008-02-08 13:35 < gwern> holy cow! 'traveling' alone is almost as expensive as hosting - 264k to 389k
2008-02-08 13:35 < TheWeasel> A lot of money is being spent on useless vague propagation.
2008-02-08 13:35 < shimgray> Headline: "Police: Crack Found in Man's Buttocks"
2008-02-08 13:36 < TheWeasel> Good one.
2008-02-08 13:36 < gwern> shimgray: you know the writer was smirking all the way to filing that article
2008-02-08 13:36 < nerdygurl> CharlotteWebb: x)
2008-02-08 13:36 < nerdygurl> you win
2008-02-08 13:36 < shimgray> who wouldn't?
2008-02-08 13:36 < TheWeasel> I thought shim had made that up.
2008-02-08 13:37 < shimgray> Nope, the AP did.
2008-02-08 13:37 < shimgray> http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=34162DE599AAA8F59CD34C29C8656024?contentId=5657259&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
2008-02-08 13:37 < gwern> hm. the foundation got 324k of someone's 'common stock' as a donation
2008-02-08 13:37 < gwern> I guess that was from a techie - maybe the gates foundation?
2008-02-08 13:37 < shimgray> gwern: I think I remember it being discussed before... hmm.
2008-02-08 13:38 < gwern> I always wonder about wikispecies - why does it always get mentioned?
2008-02-08 13:38 < shimgray> hmm, we got given $78k in Google stock a while back
2008-02-08 13:38 < gwern> hm. it mentions a few hundred shares of Google
2008-02-08 13:38 < shimgray> must be a second donation
2008-02-08 13:39 < gwern> 'At June 30, 2006, the Organizationâs investments are comprised of 187 shares of Google common stock which are carried at fair value using quoted market prices in accordance with SFAS No. 124, Accounting for Certain Investments Held by Not-for-Profit Organizations. During the year ended June 30, 2007, the Organization received a donation of additional 681 shares of Google common stock. The Organization sold all of its shares of donated Google ...
2008-02-08 13:39 < TheWeasel> We're going to bury those stocks.
2008-02-08 13:39 < gwern> ... common stock during the year ended June 30, 2007.'
2008-02-08 13:39 < TheWeasel> We've done it before and...
2008-02-08 13:39 < TheWeasel> never mind
2008-02-08 13:39 < shimgray> or else a very very slow takeover plan
2008-02-08 13:39 < Ceiling_Cat> THEWEASEL!!
2008-02-08 13:39 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles TheWeasel!
2008-02-08 13:39 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-08 13:39 < CharlotteWebb> [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2/Workshop]] has just crashed my browser
2008-02-08 13:39 < gwern> Included in the 2007 amount are donated hosting services
2008-02-08 13:39 < gwern> and bandwidth from two companies, Yahoo! and Kennisnet.
2008-02-08 13:39 < gwern> <-- who is Kennisnet?
2008-02-08 13:39 * TheWeasel tracks a flight due to take off around :40
2008-02-08 13:39 < gwern> CharlotteWebb: fail
2008-02-08 13:40 < shimgray> gwern: Dutch nonprofit(?) who give us hosting for servers in Amsterdam
2008-02-08 13:40 < TheWeasel> Ze new Feuerfuchs-Brauser!
2008-02-08 13:40 < gwern> 'In the normal course of business, the Organization receives various threats of litigation on a regular basis. ' <-- hee
2008-02-08 13:40 < gwern> shimgray: ah, that makes sense
2008-02-08 13:41 < CharlotteWebb> from the trenton, nj area
2008-02-08 13:41 < gwern> The Organization shares hosting and bandwidth costs with Wikia, Inc., a for-profit company founded by the same founder as Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Included in accounts receivable at June 30, 2007 is $6,000 due from Wikia, Inc. for these costs. The Organization received some donated office space from Wikia Inc. during the year ended June 30, 2006 valued at $6,000. No donation of the office space occurred in 2007.
2008-02-08 13:41 < gwern> Through June 30, 2007, two members of the Organizationâs board of directors also serve as employees, officers, or directors of Wikia, Inc.
2008-02-08 13:42 < gwern> so, overall an interesting read. I think I am most bothered by the 264k spent on travel in '07, though
2008-02-08 13:44 < TheWeasel> There's too much sales pitching going on
2008-02-08 13:47 < TheWeasel> too much messianic propaganda
2008-02-08 13:58 < fasta> How is the website called that shows what organisation edited which articles?
2008-02-08 14:00 < nerdygurl> fasta: http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/
2008-02-08 14:00 < fasta> nerdygurl: thanks
2008-02-08 14:06 < Warpath> nerdygurl, wowo you spoke here :O
2008-02-08 14:07 < nerdygurl> :D
2008-02-08 14:07 < nerdygurl> so rare
2008-02-08 14:10 < TheWeasel> ...keep them doggies rollin'/rawhide
2008-02-08 14:11 < NotACow> are you experiencing a shortage of irony?
2008-02-08 14:11 < CharlotteWebb> never
2008-02-08 14:12 < Faroframkallande> DEATH TO IRONY
2008-02-08 14:13 < TheWeasel> Kill ironing too, while you're at it.
2008-02-08 14:13 < TheWeasel> The future belongs to crumpled shirts
2008-02-08 14:13 < TheWeasel> Venceremos.
2008-02-08 14:15 < Prindle19> hey where is the recent changes feed room?
2008-02-08 14:18 < Shastadaisy> Prindle19: #en.wikipedia
2008-02-08 14:18 < felixflores> hey guys, anyone know what the this is called character is called ` it's the same character you get when you don't press shift to get ~
2008-02-08 14:18 < Shastadaisy> Prindle19: on irc.wikimedia.org
2008-02-08 14:18 < slashem> backtick
2008-02-08 14:19 < felixflores> thanks slashem!
2008-02-08 14:19 < Shastadaisy> felixflores: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_accent
2008-02-08 14:19 < Cyrius> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_channels#Recent_changes
2008-02-08 14:19 < slashem> you're welcome
2008-02-08 14:21 < Prindle19> thanks guys will try!
2008-02-08 14:21 < felixflores> slashem i was shocked my roommates and i didn't know it
2008-02-08 14:36 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-02-08 14:39 < CharlotteWebb> hi
2008-02-08 14:39 < Fabexplosive> hey CharlotteWebb
2008-02-08 14:47 < Ceiling_Cat> As sure as night is dark and day is light // I find you on my mind both day and night // and happiness I've known proves that it's right // because you're mind // I walk the line
2008-02-08 14:48 < Fabexplosive> Ceiling_Cat: uhm, a song?
2008-02-08 14:48 < Ceiling_Cat> Walk the Line
2008-02-08 14:48 < Ceiling_Cat> by Johnny Cash
2008-02-08 14:48 < CharlotteWebb> good movie too
2008-02-08 14:48 < CharlotteWebb> err film
2008-02-08 14:48 < Fabexplosive> k
2008-02-08 14:49 < Ceiling_Cat> the movie wasn't terrible, but wasn't great either
2008-02-08 14:49 < LuciferTiger> song =great. movie = okay
2008-02-08 14:49 * LuciferTiger watches Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-08 14:50 < Ceiling_Cat> I will give Joaquim Phoenix props for doing Cash's music himself
2008-02-08 14:50 < Ceiling_Cat> and doing it quite well, by all accounts
2008-02-08 14:50 < Tony_Sidaway> Does anybody know that sign we sometimes put on AfDs to warn newbies who have been directed to the discussion from elsewhere?
2008-02-08 14:50 < Messedrocker> harbl
2008-02-08 14:51 < Tony_Sidaway> It says something like, "if you've been directed here from elsewhere, please be warned that this isn't a vote."
2008-02-08 14:51 < Leslie_S> what a lie
2008-02-08 14:51 < Leslie_S> it IS a vote