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2008-02-06 18:13 < freshmeat> ...there is nothing wrong with a woman bearing her breasts in public.
2008-02-06 18:13 < freshmeat> A man can bear them
2008-02-06 18:13 < Sfan00> I've always found naked bodies make me throw up
2008-02-06 18:13 < mavhc> as long as they don't sag
2008-02-06 18:13 < freshmeat> Why can't a woman?
2008-02-06 18:13 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-06 18:14 < Demi> i'll look at the saggy ones for mavhc
2008-02-06 18:14 < White_Cat> freshmeat did europe ever have had a president or prime minister who had a wife that wears a nun-like outfit?
2008-02-06 18:14 < freshmeat> I have many criticisms of indecency laws.
2008-02-06 18:14 < Sfan00> freshmeat: Because male prejudice see breasts in a sexual context
2008-02-06 18:14 < White_Cat> freshmeat I am confused
2008-02-06 18:14 < White_Cat> "I have many criticisms of indecency laws."
2008-02-06 18:14 < freshmeat> Sfan00: sure -- but I believe there are topfree laws in Canada and some US states.
2008-02-06 18:14 < freshmeat> Yes?
2008-02-06 18:14 < White_Cat> Freedom of head scarves is over an indecency law
2008-02-06 18:15 < White_Cat> thats an interpretation of the sharia law
2008-02-06 18:15 < freshmeat> White_Cat: there are aspects of public indecency laws I find ridiculous.
2008-02-06 18:15 < White_Cat> freshmeat there are unwritten laws
2008-02-06 18:15 < Demi> the problem is that there is no bright line between nuisances that are acceptable and those that are not acceptable--the difference is cultural. there is a negative freedom to live the sort of life you choose that is being protected by laws about exposure
2008-02-06 18:15 < Sfan00> freshmeat: TOlerance
2008-02-06 18:15 < freshmeat> White_Cat: there is nothing valid about sharia law.
2008-02-06 18:15 < Sfan00> freshmeat: Careful
2008-02-06 18:15 < Demi> where i live you can be completely nude, except for the CBD where you have to cover your genitals. that's about right, as far as i'm concerned.
2008-02-06 18:15 < White_Cat> freshmeat you mean women should not be forced to wear the headscarves?
2008-02-06 18:15 < Sfan00> You are into dangerous territory there re your comment about the vlaidty of Sharia
2008-02-06 18:15 < freshmeat> Do you know why breasts are perceived as a sexual thing?
2008-02-06 18:15 < White_Cat> and their only opportunity to remove them should be liberated?
2008-02-06 18:16 < freshmeat> ...because they are concealed.
2008-02-06 18:16 < mavhc> what if you only wore a headscarf?
2008-02-06 18:16 < Sfan00> Demi: Canada?
2008-02-06 18:16 < White_Cat> mavhc the law actualy only bans the political turban
2008-02-06 18:16 < freshmeat> I have a theory that only those areas which are publicly concealed are found to be sexual
2008-02-06 18:16 < Demi> Sfan00 - no
2008-02-06 18:16 < freshmeat> ...it's a psychologial thig
2008-02-06 18:16 < freshmeat> thing *
2008-02-06 18:16 < White_Cat> head scarves however are generaly frowned up on
2008-02-06 18:16 < Sfan00> Demi: Where?
2008-02-06 18:16 < Demi> sharia is explicitly cultural... the particular dress that's considered modest varies from culture to culture
2008-02-06 18:16 < mavhc> naked except for headscarf
2008-02-06 18:16 < White_Cat> but theoraticaly if you wish to hide your hair you could do it with a plastic bag or hat
2008-02-06 18:16 < freshmeat> If women were to constantly have bared breasts, then it would be normal, and therefore no longer sexual.
2008-02-06 18:16 < Demi> Sfan00 - southern oregon
2008-02-06 18:16 * Dp67 struts around the room wearing a thong
2008-02-06 18:17 < Sfan00> Ewww
2008-02-06 18:17 < Demi> freshmeat - yeah, i would kind of miss that
2008-02-06 18:17 < Dp67> Holy Shit, thats an awful thought!
2008-02-06 18:17 < Sfan00> Each community has a standard of modesty
2008-02-06 18:17 < freshmeat> This is my theory, Dp67...
2008-02-06 18:17 < Sfan00> Most cultures require sexual areas to be covered
2008-02-06 18:17 < IronManMario> you know what's weird
2008-02-06 18:17 < freshmeat> ...only areas which are publically concealed are foudn ot be sexual
2008-02-06 18:17 < mavhc> and the wp community has lost their standard, someone sent it to the cleaners in 2004
2008-02-06 18:17 < Sfan00> at least in the presence of strangers etc
2008-02-06 18:18 < IronManMario> I usedc to onlt like metallice, then I didn't like them at all, now I like metallica and Guns N Roses ACDC and all that stuff
2008-02-06 18:18 < IronManMario> * metallica
2008-02-06 18:18 < freshmeat> If women were to go around naked all the time in, say, silk stockings and suspenders with heels and racy lingerie, it will all be normal.
2008-02-06 18:18 < freshmeat> ...normal to the point of being sexually uninteresting.
2008-02-06 18:18 < Sfan00> ROFL
2008-02-06 18:18 < Demi> freshmeat - i say we try it as an experiment
2008-02-06 18:18 < IronManMario> ROFL
2008-02-06 18:18 < freshmeat> Demi: think about it, man -- it's somewhat true.
2008-02-06 18:18 < White_Cat> freshmeat the dispute is about 40 years old actualy
2008-02-06 18:19 < Sfan00> Demi: I bet you would get done for 'soliciting' if you did though :(
2008-02-06 18:19 < White_Cat> want to hear the tale?
2008-02-06 18:19 < freshmeat> Demi: if a woman were to constantly wear gloves in public, then her hands would be objects of sexual attraction.
2008-02-06 18:19 < White_Cat> freshmeat in thailand womens feet are considered sexual
2008-02-06 18:19 < Sfan00> freshmeat: {{fact}}
2008-02-06 18:19 < White_Cat> hence cannot be displayed in public
2008-02-06 18:19 < Demi> freshmeat - personally "normal" *is* "sexually interesting" to me, so i'm probably not the best subject for your gedankenexperiment.
2008-02-06 18:19 < freshmeat> Demi; normal? Define normal.
2008-02-06 18:20 < freshmeat> Normal as in majority?
2008-02-06 18:20 < IronManMario> normal is what's usually there
2008-02-06 18:20 < freshmeat> There is nothing that is truly normal. IT is a meaningless idea.
2008-02-06 18:20 < mavhc> why aren't people's brains found to be more sexual then? they're usually covered up
2008-02-06 18:20 < freshmeat> ...something is only different relative to another thing.
2008-02-06 18:20 < Demi> freshmeat - i mean that i am sexually attracted to most women i come in contact with, however dressed ("to attract" or no)
2008-02-06 18:20 < IronManMario> maybe thats hwy people like furry porn, it's not normal and women are normal
2008-02-06 18:20 < IronManMario> so they do something not normal
2008-02-06 18:20 < freshmeat> I really don't understand furry porn
2008-02-06 18:21 < freshmeat> ...I prefer an elegant woman with silk black seamed stockings
2008-02-06 18:21 < freshmeat> ...expensive lingerie costing $500+
2008-02-06 18:21 < Dp67> why waste your money.. its all gonna come off anyway!
2008-02-06 18:22 < White_Cat> freshmeat would you OK a seculiar president that forces his wife to wear a nun outfit?
2008-02-06 18:22 < IronManMario> I prefer 12 year old girls actually
2008-02-06 18:22 < justlee> force?
2008-02-06 18:22 < White_Cat> how believable would such a person be?
2008-02-06 18:22 < freshmeat> Dp67: I'm not interested in bare nakedness.
2008-02-06 18:22 < justlee> iam
2008-02-06 18:22 < IronManMario> I'm 12 though
2008-02-06 18:22 < freshmeat> ...I don't find it sexy
2008-02-06 18:22 < White_Cat> force as in if not you are considered a whore
2008-02-06 18:22 < Demi> my thing is one-piece bathing suits
2008-02-06 18:22 < freshmeat> There is nothing original or interesting about bare nakedness
2008-02-06 18:23 < freshmeat> ...I prefer lingerie
2008-02-06 18:23 < justlee> freshmeat: i disagree
2008-02-06 18:23 < freshmeat> Or some wierd fetish outfit ;w
2008-02-06 18:23 < Demi> i don't like froofy
2008-02-06 18:23 < IronManMario> my thing is naked except underwear and a bra lol
2008-02-06 18:23 < mavhc> White_Cat: depends, is he doing it because it's kinky?
2008-02-06 18:23 < freshmeat> justlee: each to his own
2008-02-06 18:23 < Demi> i especially don't like lace
2008-02-06 18:23 < freshmeat> Whatever floats your boat
2008-02-06 18:23 < White_Cat> mavhc no
2008-02-06 18:23 < Dp67> I do.. The human body is a machine worth admiration.. Why cover it up?
2008-02-06 18:23 < freshmeat> Naked is boring, man
2008-02-06 18:23 < White_Cat> he is doing it merely to piss of people and push his agenda
2008-02-06 18:23 < freshmeat> I hate naked
2008-02-06 18:23 < justlee> Dp67: to prevent wet or dirty spots on the furniture
2008-02-06 18:24 < Dp67> I won't go there.. lol
2008-02-06 18:24 < freshmeat> I have a thing for elegant middle class women
2008-02-06 18:24 < mavhc> another reason to always carry a towel
2008-02-06 18:24 < IronManMario> 'I'm not touching that with a 39 and a half foot pole'
2008-02-06 18:24 < IronManMario> don't forget to bring a towel!
2008-02-06 18:24 < Demi> haha
2008-02-06 18:25 < Sfan00> !chanop
2008-02-06 18:25 < Demi> in what sense "middle class"?
2008-02-06 18:25 < justlee> towels are ok, but not the answer to everything
2008-02-06 18:25 < Demi> this is a new one on me
2008-02-06 18:25 < freshmeat> Demi: in what other sense?
2008-02-06 18:25 < justlee> what about menstruation, carrying a towel won't stop the clots from falling out
2008-02-06 18:25 < freshmeat> Hey -- what about with the whole sponge thing?
2008-02-06 18:26 < IronManMario> I like pokemon ponr O.o
2008-02-06 18:26 < IronManMario> * porn
2008-02-06 18:26 < Demi> freshmeat - i don't know where to start with that one. how do you know, for one? what is it that you like about it (what characteristics)?
2008-02-06 18:26 < freshmeat> Demi: well, elegant, intelligent, well educated and possibly rich
2008-02-06 18:26 < Demi> justlee - it's always inconvenient to wake up in a puddle of menses
2008-02-06 18:26 < IronManMario> Charizard doing Misty in the vaginer
2008-02-06 18:26 < Demi> that would be "upper class"
2008-02-06 18:27 < freshmeat> Demi: all a matter of definition, really
2008-02-06 18:28 < IronManMario> <freshmeat> Demi: well, elegant, intelligent, well educated and possibly rich <-- I'd rather they were a bit uneducated so I could tell them anything and they believe it.
2008-02-06 18:28 < IronManMario> hehehe
2008-02-06 18:28 < IronManMario> and blonde
2008-02-06 18:28 * Demi desires his woman to have no more wit, than to distinguish his bed from another man's
2008-02-06 18:28 < IronManMario> ya
2008-02-06 18:29 < freshmeat> Nah, IronManMario.
2008-02-06 18:29 < freshmeat> I'm really selective when it comes to women
2008-02-06 18:30 < mavhc> and women really selective when it comes to you/
2008-02-06 18:30 < IronManMario> Blonde, sorta medium-large boobs (not too big), not too skinny (I hate that), nice shaped waist
2008-02-06 18:31 < OverlordQ> AWWWWW, http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5240/bunbunyt7.jpg look at the cute bunneh!
2008-02-06 18:31 < IronManMario> eyes either blue or green
2008-02-06 18:31 < IronManMario> thats a rabbit? its a bit deformed
2008-02-06 18:33 < IronManMario> why did everyone stop talking?
2008-02-06 18:34 < Sfan00> !chanop
2008-02-06 18:34 < freshmeat> bunn3h!
2008-02-06 18:34 < IronManMario> what are you doing Sfan00
2008-02-06 18:34 < mavhc> we're busy stealing your potential mates, just to annoy you
2008-02-06 18:34 < freshmeat> Hey, guys -- I wanted to open a restaurant and call it `eat.'
2008-02-06 18:35 < IronManMario> lol
2008-02-06 18:35 < IronManMario> funny
2008-02-06 18:35 < Sfan00> IornManMario: Someone said something inaapropriate
2008-02-06 18:35 < IronManMario> it might work
2008-02-06 18:35 < mavhc> how exciting, who?
2008-02-06 18:35 < IronManMario> hey, the whole conversation was innapropriate
2008-02-06 18:35 < Sfan00> mavhc: I will speak to a chanop in PM
2008-02-06 18:36 < mavhc> this whole channel is out of order!
2008-02-06 18:36 < OverlordQ> You want order? You can't handle order!
2008-02-06 18:36 < mavhc> bah, that's no fun
2008-02-06 18:36 < IronManMario> One - Metallica
2008-02-06 18:37 < freshmeat> Hey, guys?
2008-02-06 18:37 < freshmeat> Any thoughts here?
2008-02-06 18:37 < Sfan00> !op
2008-02-06 18:38 < Snowolf> Sfan00: yes sir?
2008-02-06 18:38 < Sfan00> Snowofl: PM?
2008-02-06 18:38 < Snowolf> k
2008-02-06 18:44 < Sfan00> Snowolf; See PM
2008-02-06 18:44 < Snowolf> got it got i
2008-02-06 18:44 < Snowolf> *it
2008-02-06 18:47 * Snowolf kindly asks the chan to avoid "sex" as argument to debate
2008-02-06 18:48 < IronManMario> is there some meaning to the song carry on wayword son
2008-02-06 18:48 * Snowolf rectifies his previous indication to say that they should all stay in like as the channel should be a children-safe environment
2008-02-06 18:49 < mavhc> but children learn about sex
2008-02-06 18:50 < IronManMario> they should learn about it way earlier then they learn it nowadays
2008-02-06 18:50 < Snowolf> mavhc: just try to keep of remaks that some people may find offensive, ok?
2008-02-06 18:50 < mavhc> all midgets should be shot
2008-02-06 18:51 < IronManMario> ..No comment
2008-02-06 18:53 < freshmeat> Hey, guys -- I have an interesting concept for a film.
2008-02-06 18:53 < Snowolf> freshmeat: what about?
2008-02-06 18:53 < mavhc> hey, that was way more offensive than sex. Anyway, if you're offended by things what the hell are you doing on the internet?
2008-02-06 18:54 < Snowolf> mavhc: that comment was indeed unhelpful. IF you know that, why did you make it?
2008-02-06 18:55 < Snowolf> freshmeat: seriously, what's the idea?
2008-02-06 18:55 < mavhc> Snowolf: because it's funny and makes a point at the same time
2008-02-06 18:56 < Snowolf> what would be the point?
2008-02-06 18:56 < jtizzle1854> Does anyone know if i have dial-up internet can I get a wirless network adapter, hook it up to my dial-up internet and then have wirless internet in my house?? if the wirless adapter takes broadband then definately it should take dial-up(narrowaband)
2008-02-06 18:56 < mavhc> that people think the wrong things are offensive
2008-02-06 18:57 < Starnestommy> jtizzle1854: it would probably not work since dial-up usually uses pppoe
2008-02-06 18:57 < jtizzle1854> ??
2008-02-06 18:57 < jtizzle1854> what's pppoe?
2008-02-06 18:57 < ggreer> http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2008/02/hooray-bloggers.html
2008-02-06 18:57 < Starnestommy> while broadband is usually converted from one form to ethernet
2008-02-06 18:57 < ggreer> wow
2008-02-06 18:57 < ggreer> who snuck into the TSA and started fixing it?
2008-02-06 18:57 < mavhc> ggreer: it's really easy to get past those scanners
2008-02-06 18:58 < ggreer> mavhc: yeah, tell me about it
2008-02-06 18:58 < Snowolf> jtizzle1854: [[PPOE]]
2008-02-06 18:58 < ggreer> mavhc: but the TSA just started a blog, and they have comments enabled
2008-02-06 18:58 < jtizzle1854> ok
2008-02-06 18:58 < jtizzle1854> what is PPOE
2008-02-06 18:58 < ggreer> and now they are actually listening to the comments
2008-02-06 18:58 < jtizzle1854> what does that stand for?
2008-02-06 18:58 < Dp67> There are some routers that will allow a modem. But it would have to be an external modem
2008-02-06 18:58 < ggreer> it's crazy
2008-02-06 18:58 < OverlordQ> Heh, atleast they got a sense of humor ggreer
2008-02-06 18:59 < Starnestommy> point-to-point protocol over ethernet
2008-02-06 18:59 < jtizzle1854> ok
2008-02-06 18:59 < Starnestommy> I think I may have wanted to say ppp instead of pppoe
2008-02-06 18:59 < Snowolf> :)
2008-02-06 18:59 < Dp67> PPP is correct
2008-02-06 18:59 < Snowolf> dial up is ppp
2008-02-06 18:59 < mavhc> ggreer: bruce schneier interviewed someone from tsa too
2008-02-06 18:59 < IronManMario> you know whats not right
2008-02-06 19:00 < IronManMario> making fun of someone for having aspergers
2008-02-06 19:00 < IronManMario> really, wtf
2008-02-06 19:00 < mavhc> people using dialup
2008-02-06 19:00 < mavhc> IronManMario: so every geek joke?
2008-02-06 19:00 < Krimpet> you _could_ do it - but you'd have to install a NIC into a desktop computer with a dialup modem, then connect a wireless router to that
2008-02-06 19:01 < ggreer> mavhc: yeah, that was a decent interview
2008-02-06 19:01 < ggreer> the TSA guy looked like a fool
2008-02-06 19:01 < jtizzle1854> well waht's PPP?
2008-02-06 19:01 < Krimpet> and you'd then have to dial in on the desktop computer to connect the whole network to the internet
2008-02-06 19:01 < IronManMario> what does aspergers have to do with geeks
2008-02-06 19:01 < Starnestommy> Point-to-Point Protocol
2008-02-06 19:01 < mavhc> I'd expect a high correlation
2008-02-06 19:01 < jtizzle1854> so the wirless network adapter wouldn't work
2008-02-06 19:01 < jtizzle1854> if i connected my phone line to it?
2008-02-06 19:02 < mavhc> what's a wirless network adapter?
2008-02-06 19:02 < ggreer> IronManMario: anti-social geeks self-diagnose themselves with asperger's, then they post on the awful forums and end up killing their neighbors with a shotgun
2008-02-06 19:02 < jtizzle1854> i guess that's what you call it
2008-02-06 19:02 < jtizzle1854> one like linksys
2008-02-06 19:02 < Starnestommy> A router?
2008-02-06 19:02 < jtizzle1854> oh yeah
2008-02-06 19:02 < jtizzle1854> i mean router
2008-02-06 19:03 < jtizzle1854> would it work a router for dial-up
2008-02-06 19:03 < Starnestommy> as far as I know, the average linkxyx wrt54g only works if you have a modem that has an ethernet adaptor
2008-02-06 19:03 < Starnestommy> most cable and DSL modems have them
2008-02-06 19:03 < jtizzle1854> ok how about a computer a laptop computer with a network adapter?
2008-02-06 19:06 < mavhc> that will work, with some configuring
2008-02-06 19:07 < jtizzle1854> ok
2008-02-06 19:07 < jtizzle1854> i think i'll get me on of 'em
2008-02-06 19:07 < Dp67> If you plan to go wired then all you need is a nic card and Winblows has Internet sharing built in if I remember correctly..
2008-02-06 19:08 < Dp67> You tap into the computer with the modem and that computer becomes your router.
2008-02-06 19:10 < jtizzle1854> i'll still have dial-up internet only that the router will make it wireless in my house with the phone line connected to the router
2008-02-06 19:12 < Dp67> No you won't have wireless internet unless you get a wireless router that has a modem or a port for an external modem.
2008-02-06 19:12 < Messedrocker> hmm
2008-02-06 19:12 < Pilotguy> Just for the record, if one person can't handle what >everyone else< is discussing, perhaps said person should find another hangout
2008-02-06 19:13 < Messedrocker> Pilotguy, what if the discussion is incredible inappropriate?
2008-02-06 19:14 < Dp67> I still havent figured out who said something innapropriate. Seems like everyone talking was in on the topic.
2008-02-06 19:15 < Pilotguy> Majority tends to rule here. We can't be around all the time to punish everyone just because one user continuously doesn't like what's being discussed.
2008-02-06 19:15 < Pilotguy> There gets to be a point when it's annyoing
2008-02-06 19:16 < Dp67> thats when I go and watch another channel for a while.. Unfortunatly I guess others don't know how to do that.
2008-02-06 19:16 < Messedrocker> Pilotguy, I may just be playing devil's advocate, but what if the majority is at fault?
2008-02-06 19:18 < Pilotguy> What I'm implying is that if there is one user continuously complaning about the same thing, day after day, week after week, it seems unfair for us to continuously cater to said user
2008-02-06 19:18 < Pilotguy> Op is a volunteer position and we are under no obligation to do that
2008-02-06 19:23 < Dp67> boy that killed the room.. lol
2008-02-06 19:26 < IronManMario> heh i found this cool prtable radio thing
2008-02-06 19:26 < IronManMario> * portable
2008-02-06 19:26 < IronManMario> it's al ight too
2008-02-06 19:26 < IronManMario> * light
2008-02-06 19:26 < IronManMario> it gets great reception for not having an antenna o.o
2008-02-06 19:28 < IronManMario> I'll try drawing it in mspaint
2008-02-06 19:30 < gwern> '101. Dealing with failure is easy: Work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: You've solved the wrong problem. Work hard to improve. '
2008-02-06 19:32 < Hildanknight> To all fellow Chinese: GONG XI FA CAI, WAN SHI RU YI! :D
2008-02-06 19:37 < NicholasT> Hello all
2008-02-06 19:38 < Ashfire908> hi
2008-02-06 19:38 < Snowolf> hi NicholasT
2008-02-06 19:44 < Sfan00> Hi NicholasT
2008-02-06 19:44 < Sfan00> :)
2008-02-06 19:44 < Sfan00> Have some NPOV concerns about an item your wrote on Wikinews
2008-02-06 19:45 < Sfan00> Can you reassure that item http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/David_S._Touretzky_discusses_Scientology%2C_Anonymous_and_Tom_Cruise was ethicaly produced? :)
2008-02-06 19:50 < Snowolf> Sfan00: What do you mean?
2008-02-06 19:50 < Sfan00> m question was to Nicholast
2008-02-06 19:50 < Snowolf> "was ethicaly produced" -> assume a bit of good faith, please!
2008-02-06 19:50 < Sfan00> The prerson interviewed is a notable critic
2008-02-06 19:50 < Sfan00> I am :)
2008-02-06 19:58 < IronManMario> this little radio thing is wierd
2008-02-06 19:59 < IronManMario> It only gets reception if I have headphones plugged into it, not if I have a line in cord connecting it to my computer
2008-02-06 19:59 < Dp67> thats nothing new
2008-02-06 20:00 < Dp67> the headphones are the antenna
2008-02-06 20:01 < Dp67> I have an SDR radio.. thats cool..
2008-02-06 20:01 < IronManMario> the headphones are the antenna>'
2008-02-06 20:01 < IronManMario> * ?
2008-02-06 20:02 < IronManMario> weird
2008-02-06 20:02 < IronManMario> I was wondering how it got reception with no antenna at all
2008-02-06 20:02 < IronManMario> I found it on google
2008-02-06 20:02 < IronManMario> http://www.extremecomputing.com/fmaurawhepe.html
2008-02-06 20:06 < IronManMario> 'Styx: Blue Collar Man (Long Nights)' is playing on this radio station, it pwns
2008-02-06 20:07 < Dp67> I guess i'd be dating myself if I said I actually remember when that song was new.
2008-02-06 20:08 < IronManMario> When did it come out, 80's?
2008-02-06 20:09 < Dp67> 83 or 84 i think
2008-02-06 20:10 < IronManMario> 'Def Leppard: Foolin'' is on now, this one pwns too
2008-02-06 20:10 < IronManMario> lol late 60's 70's 80's and some 90's rock/metal pwns
2008-02-06 20:10 < bumm13> that one's from 1983
2008-02-06 20:11 < Brynn> Hey bumm13 :)
2008-02-06 20:11 < bumm13> hi
2008-02-06 20:11 < IronManMario> remember when everyone used walkmans
2008-02-06 20:11 < Dp67> actually it was 79
2008-02-06 20:11 < IronManMario> now everyone is using mp3 ipods
2008-02-06 20:11 < bumm13> Dp67: what was?
2008-02-06 20:11 < Dp67> blue colar man
2008-02-06 20:12 < bumm13> oh, I meant the Def Leppard song
2008-02-06 20:12 < Dp67> Def Leppard rocks
2008-02-06 20:12 < IronManMario> this radio is being gay
2008-02-06 20:12 < IronManMario> I moved it and I can't get reception back
2008-02-06 20:25 < NotACow> beep
2008-02-06 20:33 < prontaz> can anyone confirm or deny these three wikipedia "facts" posted here: http://wikipediafacts.on.nimp.org
2008-02-06 20:36 < AzaTht> oh, it's autoban is pointing to wikipediafacts
2008-02-06 20:37 < The359> what is that URL?
2008-02-06 20:37 < The359> before I click it
2008-02-06 20:37 < kenlyric> facts
2008-02-06 20:37 < AzaTht> wikipediafacts.on.nimp.org
2008-02-06 20:37 < The359> I meant what is on it
2008-02-06 20:37 < kenlyric> facts
2008-02-06 20:37 < The359> in case it's some shocksite shit
2008-02-06 20:38 < AzaTht> it's nothing
2008-02-06 20:38 < AzaTht> cannot get any connection to it
2008-02-06 20:38 < Snowolf> AntiSpamMeta says it's a Last Measure mirror = shock site
2008-02-06 20:38 < Snowolf> but I can't load it either
2008-02-06 20:38 < The359> me either
2008-02-06 20:38 < AzaTht> ok
2008-02-06 20:38 < The359> but if it's Last Measure, it might be trying to install something
2008-02-06 20:38 < The359> or whatever
2008-02-06 20:38 < AzaTht> haha
2008-02-06 20:39 * Snowolf goes back to watch Star Wars Ipod Ads on ytmnd
2008-02-06 20:39 < AzaTht> uh
2008-02-06 20:42 < celicni> how can i make collapsible tables work on a wiki project where they don't work now?
2008-02-06 20:43 < celicni> should i enable them in monobook, or where?
2008-02-06 20:43 < Messedrocker> common.css
2008-02-06 20:44 < Messedrocker> collapsable tables are based in some CSS and javascript code
2008-02-06 20:44 < celicni> Messedrocker: tks...
2008-02-06 20:45 < celicni> but i can't find segment that enables them here
2008-02-06 20:45 < celicni> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
2008-02-06 20:45 < celicni> (they work on meta)
2008-02-06 20:45 < nalioth> AzaTht: please don't repeat that stuff :)
2008-02-06 20:45 < AzaTht> uh?
2008-02-06 20:45 < AzaTht> ah
2008-02-06 20:47 < celicni> oh, it's common.js
2008-02-06 20:50 < celicni> Messedrocker: i've copy/pasted the code from common.js... what else should i do to make them work?
2008-02-06 20:50 < NotACow> DEATH TO JAVASCRIPT
2008-02-06 20:50 < NotACow> collapsable tables sound dangerous
2008-02-06 20:50 < Messedrocker> celicni, i think there is also css code
2008-02-06 20:51 < Ashfire908> javascript is evil.
2008-02-06 20:51 < NotACow> what if one of them collapsed while something valuable was sitting on it?
2008-02-06 20:51 < Ashfire908> because it's overused and slow
2008-02-06 20:51 < Messedrocker> i really don't remember what i did to get collapsable tables working on my own wikis
2008-02-06 20:52 < celicni> Messedrocker: ok, but do you remember in which file can i find that css code?
2008-02-06 20:52 < Messedrocker> MediaWiki:Common.css
2008-02-06 20:54 < Pilotguy> Carolina game's coming on soon
2008-02-06 21:00 < AAA^> Messedrocker: thank you for making my otherwise boring day: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Uncyclopedia&diff=162979029&oldid=162960376
2008-02-06 21:01 < Messedrocker> i made that edit four months ago
2008-02-06 21:11 < NotACow> ZOMBIE
2008-02-06 21:11 < NotACow> DEATH TO ZOMBIES
2008-02-06 21:33 < gwern> 'I am barfing and dying right now, so the next comic will be a little late.'
2008-02-06 21:33 < Quixxy> whoo hoo! I've received my first legal threat
2008-02-06 21:35 < Messedrocker> legitimate or bullshit
2008-02-06 21:35 < Quixxy> seems legit
2008-02-06 21:37 < Messedrocker> if it was emailed it was probably bullshit
2008-02-06 21:48 < NotACow> DEATH TO EMAIL
2008-02-06 22:18 < Gracenotes> hm
2008-02-06 22:18 < Gracenotes> is imdb down for anyone else?
2008-02-06 22:18 < Ceiling_Cat> no
2008-02-06 22:19 < Gracenotes> :|
2008-02-06 22:19 < Gracenotes> ah, now it's working for me
2008-02-06 22:19 < Gracenotes> thanks
2008-02-06 22:24 < Ceiling_Cat> I caught the Chunnel to France shortly after 9/11. They took two pocket knives and a box of matches off me in London. I'm thinking "what am I going to do, hijack the train?" Then, to make things more confusing, half-way through the trip they came through the cabin and gave everyone their stuff back.
2008-02-06 22:24 * Ceiling_Cat lulz
2008-02-06 22:29 < Random832> hey - I have a question - a general question for anyone in the US who was old enough in 2001 to care about gas prices
2008-02-06 22:29 < Random832> did gas prices really spike immediately after 9/11? what levels did they reach
2008-02-06 22:33 < Messedrocker> hmm
2008-02-06 22:33 < Messedrocker> on 9/11 i was 9 years old
2008-02-06 22:35 < Ceiling_Cat> really/
2008-02-06 22:35 < Ceiling_Cat> ?
2008-02-06 22:35 * Ceiling_Cat suddenly feels very old
2008-02-06 22:36 < Random832> Ceiling_Cat: to be fair, Messedrocker is, what, twelve, now?
2008-02-06 22:36 < autocracy> Random832: you don't get to edit math articles
2008-02-06 22:36 < Messedrocker> you fail at basic addition/subtraction
2008-02-06 22:36 * Ceiling_Cat lulz
2008-02-06 22:36 < Messedrocker> Random832, i am nearing 16
2008-02-06 22:36 < Random832> it was a joke
2008-02-06 22:36 < Random832> (but i seriously thought you were 14 - i think someone on here said that)
2008-02-06 22:36 < autocracy> i'm.... 23 next week.. whee
2008-02-06 22:36 < Ceiling_Cat> A good friend of mine is a freshman in college
2008-02-06 22:37 < Ceiling_Cat> We both went ot the same high school, but I was many years ahead of him
2008-02-06 22:37 < Random832> "many"?
2008-02-06 22:37 < Ceiling_Cat> I didn't realize just how old I am until I realized that I started high school when he was starting the 2nd grade
2008-02-06 22:37 < Random832> you can't be more than three years apart, and go to the same hs at the same time
2008-02-06 22:37 < Random832> oh, you didn't say at the same time
2008-02-06 22:37 < autocracy> no, no he didn't...
2008-02-06 22:38 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, you are, how old?
2008-02-06 22:38 < Ceiling_Cat> 25
2008-02-06 22:38 < Messedrocker> so you're as old as my math teacher
2008-02-06 22:38 < Messedrocker> whine whine whine
2008-02-06 22:39 < Messedrocker> (actually i don't know how old she is)
2008-02-06 22:39 < Messedrocker> (she's probably that age though. she is quite young and surprisingly stilted when she's in work mode)
2008-02-06 22:40 < Eric|Freunde> Anyone else having extremely slow loading times with en.wikipedia?
2008-02-06 22:40 < autocracy> Eric|Freunde: just tested a bunch of random pages. Fine here.
2008-02-06 22:41 < Eric|Freunde> autocracy: Weird, it seems to be the only website running slow for me.
2008-02-06 22:43 < jeremyb> Random832: iirc there's some fed gov agency that tracks prices... idk about resolution (prolly by the week)
2008-02-06 22:44 < Eric|Freunde> aww, it takes a good minute or so for the main page to load!
2008-02-06 22:44 < jeremyb> whoa
2008-02-06 22:44 < jeremyb> they have a phone number you can call for gas prices? (government operated)
2008-02-06 22:46 < jeremyb> aha
2008-02-06 22:46 < jeremyb> Random832: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd_dcus_nus_w.htm
2008-02-06 22:49 < Random832> jeremyb: that wouldn't show an overnight spike followed by a quick drop
2008-02-06 22:49 < Alkivar> http://rottenindenmark.vox.com/library/post/somethine-about-cops.html
2008-02-06 23:01 < Messedrocker> moral of the story
2008-02-06 23:01 < Messedrocker> secure your fucking wi-fi
2008-02-06 23:03 < Luna-San> Always a good moral.
2008-02-06 23:04 < Messedrocker> yes sir
2008-02-06 23:05 < ggreer> Messedrocker: or if you're stealing credit cards, leave your network open
2008-02-06 23:06 < ggreer> reasonable doubt ftw
2008-02-06 23:12 < autocracy> somebody have a moment to gloss over this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_9/11_Commission_Report
2008-02-06 23:12 < autocracy> I'm suspicious of large articles that appear at once
2008-02-06 23:12 < autocracy> even if they are... failry well cited
2008-02-06 23:12 < autocracy> fairly..
2008-02-06 23:13 < Ceiling_Cat> oh jesus
2008-02-06 23:13 * Ceiling_Cat shoots self
2008-02-06 23:14 < Gracenotes> hooray, ceiling cat is dead
2008-02-06 23:14 < autocracy> Gracenotes: been waiting so long, eh?
2008-02-06 23:14 * autocracy shrugs
2008-02-06 23:14 < Gracenotes> :<
2008-02-06 23:14 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Brazilian_lawyers&diff=189500092&oldid=187594053
2008-02-06 23:15 < Ceiling_Cat> A brazillian lawyer decided to write his autobiography right into the [[category:brazillian lawyers]] page
2008-02-06 23:15 < Ceiling_Cat> and he submitted a photo to OTRS that he asked to be put into the article
2008-02-06 23:15 < autocracy> Well, at least on topic...
2008-02-06 23:15 < Ceiling_Cat> there are so many things wrong with this... I think about it too hard, my poor brain will asplode
2008-02-06 23:15 < Ceiling_Cat> if I think*
2008-02-06 23:16 < autocracy> Ceiling_Cat: you want to undo it?
2008-02-06 23:16 < Ceiling_Cat> Undoing it is the easy part
2008-02-06 23:16 < autocracy> Ceiling_Cat: I'll write, if you like
2008-02-06 23:16 < Ceiling_Cat> Autocracy - can you please revert and drop a note on his talk page explaining the problem
2008-02-06 23:17 < autocracy> Ceiling_Cat: on it
2008-02-06 23:17 < Ceiling_Cat> and be patient with him if and when he doesn't understand what the issue is
2008-02-06 23:17 < Ceiling_Cat> thank you
2008-02-06 23:18 < jeremyb> Random832: what about "weekly" didn't you understand?
2008-02-06 23:18 < jeremyb> :)
2008-02-06 23:21 < NotACow> moo
2008-02-06 23:22 < NotACow> MOO DAMMI
2008-02-06 23:22 < SinSeer> for someone who is not a cow methinks thou doth protest too much
2008-02-06 23:23 < Luna-San> Have you seen cow heaven? Can you tell us what it's like?
2008-02-06 23:24 < SinSeer> just sayin is all
2008-02-06 23:26 < Brian_M> My power just went out
2008-02-06 23:26 < Brian_M> D'oh!
2008-02-06 23:26 < Mike_H> Luna-San: I've already been to heaven. I've already been to heaven.
2008-02-06 23:26 < Mike_H> Luna-San: I've already been to heaven. And after five minutes, I was like, "Let's go."
2008-02-06 23:26 < Luna-San> Oooh
2008-02-06 23:26 < Luna-San> Was I there? :<
2008-02-06 23:27 < Mike_H> I don't know. Did I want to borrow your top?
2008-02-06 23:28 < autocracy> Ceiling_Cat: there, a few nice paragraphs
2008-02-06 23:28 < autocracy> ... ramblings of a barely conscious wikipedian
2008-02-06 23:33 < Alkivar> wow listen to these pathetic remixes
2008-02-06 23:33 < Alkivar> http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/298716-01.htm
2008-02-06 23:33 < Alkivar> michael jackson must be PIIIIIIISSED
2008-02-06 23:34 < Alkivar> Fergie doing Beat It... or Kanye's remix of Billie Jean... i dont know which sucks more
2008-02-06 23:34 < Messedrocker> michael jackson solicited those remixes as far as i know
2008-02-06 23:34 < Messedrocker> it's his album, Thriller 20th Anniversary or something
2008-02-06 23:34 < Brian_M> Plus that Super Bowl commercial of the Lizards dancing to Thriller really sucked
2008-02-06 23:34 < autocracy> ehh, i kinda liked it
2008-02-06 23:35 < Alkivar> i laughed at it... but it ran waaay too long
2008-02-06 23:35 < Brian_M> Most of this years commercials sucked
2008-02-06 23:35 < Brian_M> Good game, bad commercials
2008-02-06 23:38 < Messedrocker> i should be responsible for super bowl commercials
2008-02-06 23:39 < Messedrocker> they will be wacky and irrelevant
2008-02-06 23:39 < Messedrocker> and may or may not star alkivar
2008-02-06 23:39 < Messedrocker> alkivar, would you shout nonsense in a microphone for the sake of endorsing condoms?
2008-02-06 23:39 < Messedrocker> you will receive $150,000 for it
2008-02-06 23:39 < arcandio> Okay, I got a question about CSS for my wiki
2008-02-06 23:40 < arcandio> How do you change the color of external links?
2008-02-06 23:41 < jeremyb> arcandio: give them their own class and then change the color for that
2008-02-06 23:46 < arcandio> What's the difference between the class of an interal [[]] link and just a normal http:// external link?
2008-02-06 23:47 < arcandio> My css catches only the internal ones
2008-02-06 23:48 < arcandio> anyone?
2008-02-06 23:49 < jeremyb> what's your css?
2008-02-06 23:49 < jeremyb> they're both a
2008-02-06 23:49 * jeremyb suggests arcandio read html :)
2008-02-06 23:50 < arcandio> I have. Do you understand the difference of the two types of links?
2008-02-06 23:51 < arcandio> Internal links are set up by wikitext, with double brackets. External ones aren't and they dodge the usual a: css rules
2008-02-06 23:51 < arcandio> And I can't figure out why.
2008-02-06 23:51 < arcandio> http://www.arcandio.com/wiki
2008-02-06 23:51 < SinSeer> so look at the code and change their css, or just do a blanket change
2008-02-06 23:51 < Starnestommy> they also show up as [http://example.com blah]
2008-02-06 23:52 < arcandio> Yeah, and any special page too.
2008-02-06 23:52 < arcandio> And I still can't make a universal rule to get all links.
2008-02-06 23:52 < jeremyb> arcandio: maybe there's an !important in the cascade?
2008-02-06 23:52 < arcandio> There must be an override for that little blue icon
2008-02-06 23:52 * jeremyb forgets his CSS
2008-02-06 23:53 < arcandio> Will look
2008-02-06 23:53 < Starnestommy> <span class="plainlinks">[http://example.com example link]</span>?
2008-02-06 23:53 < SinSeer> class='external text'
2008-02-06 23:53 < SinSeer> change that one
2008-02-06 23:55 < arcandio> Thanks Sin, I found the thing that brings up the icon, but still no luck on the actual color. maybe I can change that rule to color it for me.
2008-02-06 23:55 < SinSeer> that's the css your external links are using, so, yeah :)
2008-02-06 23:55 < arcandio> #bodyContent a.external,
2008-02-06 23:56 < SinSeer> the 'little icon' is part of your wiki template, i assume, not having used that software ;)
2008-02-06 23:56 < arcandio> Yeah
2008-02-06 23:57 < arcandio> Its all based on the wikipedia monobook or whatever basic template
2008-02-06 23:57 < SinSeer> never used it
2008-02-06 23:57 < SinSeer> but i know css/html :)
2008-02-06 23:57 < arcandio> Bahh. Curses.
2008-02-06 23:57 < arcandio> I can't even convince the a.external to color it right.
2008-02-06 23:57 < SinSeer> well its a basic templating system i'm sure, run a find through your code for the filename, find the code that changes it, and then fix it...
2008-02-06 23:59 < arcandio> I even found class plainlinks and no luck.
2008-02-06 23:59 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles Mark_Ryan
2008-02-06 23:59 < Mark_Ryan> don't touch me unless you can afford me
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> #bodyContent a.external {
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> color: #36b;
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> }
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> special external link styling */
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> #bodyContent .plainlinks a {
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> background: none !important;
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> padding: 0 !important;
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> color: #996600;
2008-02-07 00:00 < SinSeer> woops, sorry to paste dat here
2008-02-07 00:00 < Mark_Ryan> okay, at least it wasn't particularly long
2008-02-07 00:01 < SinSeer> it didn't even get the part i wanted, arcandio, look for this in the code? "* this can be used in the content area to switch off
2008-02-07 00:01 < SinSeer> special external link styling"
2008-02-07 00:02 < SinSeer> but sorry, thats the extent of my free technical support for the day, i gotta catch the subway before it stops running, tee hee
2008-02-07 00:02 < SinSeer> (not like i helped)
2008-02-07 00:02 < arcandio> Thanks for your help sinseer
2008-02-07 00:02 < arcandio> Well, you got me looking at the right problem at least.
2008-02-07 00:03 < SinSeer> excellent... you'll find the way from there :)
2008-02-07 00:03 < SinSeer> where did all this snow come from
2008-02-07 00:04 < Takamatsu> Hey guys, I'm having trouble finding an article about a rated-R movie I watched in the January of '03. It was about a serial killer from South Africa named "Luke Sovard" (sp?) and some forensic scientists made a genetic double of him. I believe it was aired on USA Network. Can you help me find that movie?
2008-02-07 00:04 < Brian_M> I just discovered some obvious vandalism in an article that had been there for 7 months
2008-02-07 00:05 < Brian_M> I feel shame
2008-02-07 00:05 < Mike_H> Takamatsu: I'm not sure, but the Reference Desk may know
2008-02-07 00:05 < Mike_H> ask them in the correct category.
2008-02-07 00:05 < Takamatsu> I hope so, Halterman.
2008-02-07 00:10 < NotACow> DEATH TO DOOGIES
2008-02-07 00:19 < NotACow> CHEEEEEP!
2008-02-07 00:22 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - update your blog
2008-02-07 00:22 < amidaniel> Uggh ... ##java is useless. Anyone here good with Java, and specifically swing?
2008-02-07 00:23 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: why?
2008-02-07 00:23 < NotACow> amidaniel: ugh, swing
2008-02-07 00:23 < Ceiling_Cat> because it hasn't been updated in weeks
2008-02-07 00:23 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: i haven't had anything worth blogging about, or at least that i care to blog about
2008-02-07 00:23 < amidaniel> NotACow: Yah, I know :) You knowledgeable about it?
2008-02-07 00:24 < NotACow> amidaniel: not really.
2008-02-07 00:24 < amidaniel> Alright, well thanks anyway :))
2008-02-07 00:24 < NotACow> amidaniel: i have always hated guis.
2008-02-07 00:24 * amidaniel too
2008-02-07 00:24 < amidaniel> That's why I suck at writing them :P
2008-02-07 00:25 < amidaniel> This one's for a lab course I'm teaching this semester .. turns out the code I gave them was borked minorly, and I now can't figure out what caused the borkage because I suck at swing :)
2008-02-07 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> "A Dallas newspaper is claiming that the long-in-development title Duke Nukem Forever is headed for retail release in late 2008. Unfortunately, game creator 3D Realms says that's not exactly what they meant.
2008-02-07 00:27 < zero1328> Did anyone make any life-threatening bets regarding the release of Duke Nukem Forever, btw?
2008-02-07 00:27 < zero1328> not implying I made any myself..
2008-02-07 00:28 < ggreer> amidaniel: java is a terrible language
2008-02-07 00:29 < ggreer> it's so verbose it drives me insane
2008-02-07 00:29 < amidaniel> I beg to disagree -- it's a fabulous language, just not always the most optimal or ideal
2008-02-07 00:29 < IceKarma> I don't mind the language itself, but the java.* packages drive me nuts
2008-02-07 00:29 < ggreer> java is the SQL of programming languages
2008-02-07 00:30 < IceKarma> ggreer, "BASIC".
2008-02-07 00:30 < amidaniel> heh
2008-02-07 00:30 < amidaniel> I don't know, the "verbosity" of it really helps me keep track of what the hell I'm doing.
2008-02-07 00:31 < amidaniel> As opposed to .. say ... php :)
2008-02-07 00:31 < ggreer> languages like ruby and python allow me to write stuff a lot faster
2008-02-07 00:32 < amidaniel> Oh good lord, python? PYTHON?!
2008-02-07 00:32 * amidaniel vomits
2008-02-07 00:32 < ggreer> yes, python
2008-02-07 00:32 < ggreer> a TON of stuff is written in python
2008-02-07 00:32 < ggreer> although I prefer ruby. I hate tabs
2008-02-07 00:33 < amidaniel> a TON of stuff is written in ASM too; it doesn't mean it's a fun language to work with :))
2008-02-07 00:33 < ggreer> also ruby has rails, and although rails is slow it sure is nice
2008-02-07 00:33 < amidaniel> Haven't had much experience with ruby, so I can't really comment on it. But python I shall denounce until the day I die :)
2008-02-07 00:34 < ggreer> if I want to write fast code I use C or C++, but I stay away from templates besides basic stl stuff
2008-02-07 00:34 < ggreer> basically C with objects
2008-02-07 00:35 < ggreer> also berkeleydb is nice. SQL is terrible
2008-02-07 00:35 < amidaniel> I actually find that for the most part, at least for large and complex applications, java programs tend to be faster than the C programs
2008-02-07 00:36 < amidaniel> The slow part of java is the set-up of the jvm, etc., but it actually makes use of a lot of exceptional compilation optimization that far surpasses what most C compilers accomplish
2008-02-07 00:36 < amidaniel> Of course, if you can write optimal code without the help of the compiler, then C is certainly better for you
2008-02-07 00:37 * amidaniel for one cannot :)
2008-02-07 00:37 < ggreer> amidaniel: actually optimizing compilers are very good at what they do, just like JIT compilers are very good at what they do
2008-02-07 00:38 < amidaniel> Sure they are; I never said they weren't :)
2008-02-07 00:38 < ggreer> the main thing I hate about java is that people learn java in college, then they think they're good programmers
2008-02-07 00:38 < ggreer> and I give them one interview question that involves memory management and they go "uhhhh"
2008-02-07 00:39 < amidaniel> Well, I hope they won't let you out of college with a degree in CS without having to write at least a malloc :)
2008-02-07 00:39 < ggreer> in many places operating systems is not a required course
2008-02-07 00:39 < amidaniel> For a BS in compsci? O.o
2008-02-07 00:40 < ggreer> correct
2008-02-07 00:40 * amidaniel wonders if there's a list of these universities published anywhere so that employers will know not to hire anyone with a degree from one of them :)
2008-02-07 00:41 < ggreer> amidaniel: I don't care about degrees. the best programmer I've worked with had only a high school diploma
2008-02-07 00:41 < ggreer> it's all about the interview
2008-02-07 00:43 < amidaniel> Sure, you certainly can master CS without a formal college education .. usually helps though :)
2008-02-07 00:43 < Kalir> Hello? Am I all alone?
2008-02-07 00:43 < ggreer> yeah, I learned a decent amount in college, but the main thing that got me to learn more was myself
2008-02-07 00:43 < Kalir> Oh good.
2008-02-07 00:46 < NotACow> college was vaguely fun
2008-02-07 00:46 < NotACow> but i don't remember learning anythign
2008-02-07 00:47 < ggreer> NotACow: some of my professors were actually good, since they had actually worked at companies in the real world
2008-02-07 00:47 < Mask> i had great professors. i blame edwards for me not finishing
2008-02-07 00:48 < amidaniel> Well, I personally think it's good to have a mix of real-world education and more institutional education
2008-02-07 00:48 < amidaniel> But that's just me :)
2008-02-07 00:51 < amidaniel> Anywho, I'm gonna head off
2008-02-07 00:51 < amidaniel> Nice chatting with you
2008-02-07 01:05 < Luna-San> So apparently discussing the possibility of a relationship between Wikia and Wikimedia is a blockable offense, now.
2008-02-07 01:10 < The359> as it should be
2008-02-07 01:11 < Mike_H> Luna-San: oh, it was lulz earlier
2008-02-07 01:11 < Mike_H> did you see my comment
2008-02-07 01:12 < Luna-San> In here?
2008-02-07 01:12 < Luna-San> I think it hit AN or something, the other day.
2008-02-07 01:12 < Mike_H> no
2008-02-07 01:12 < Mike_H> I posted it today
2008-02-07 01:12 < Mike_H> I have to agree with the others who have commented here. If people could unilaterally make changes permanent simply by adding a do-not-remove-plz-kthxbye comment above them, this would be a very different site. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 15:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)