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2008-02-06 06:02 < White_Cat> it is banned in iran!
2008-02-06 06:03 < White_Cat> cut those hooker nails?
2008-02-06 06:03 < White_Cat> mmm
2008-02-06 06:03 < White_Cat> I like hooker nails
2008-02-06 06:03 < White_Cat> you can hook them
2008-02-06 06:03 < Warpath> O_O
2008-02-06 06:04 < White_Cat> Warpath you have to watch Mike_H's youtube link to understand it
2008-02-06 06:04 < Warpath> *dial-up* :~(
2008-02-06 06:04 < White_Cat> Warpath arent you in the Filipines?
2008-02-06 06:04 < Warpath> no
2008-02-06 06:04 < White_Cat> Fiji?
2008-02-06 06:04 < White_Cat> AHA!
2008-02-06 06:05 < White_Cat> Filipines - Fiji
2008-02-06 06:05 < White_Cat> I found a connection
2008-02-06 06:05 < White_Cat> conspiracy!
2008-02-06 06:06 < Warpath> :O
2008-02-06 06:06 < Warpath> hmm Fijipinnes :P
2008-02-06 06:06 < White_Cat> was fiji ever occupied by the fijipinnes?
2008-02-06 06:06 < White_Cat> preoccupied at least
2008-02-06 06:06 < Warpath> nope
2008-02-06 06:10 < White_Cat> Mike_H
2008-02-06 06:10 < White_Cat> is she ever polite?
2008-02-06 06:13 < Mike_H> White_Cat: maybe when she's drunk
2008-02-06 06:13 < Mike_H> and even then it's 50/50
2008-02-06 06:14 < White_Cat> ah
2008-02-06 06:14 < White_Cat> so she is who again?
2008-02-06 06:14 < White_Cat> Filthy rich?
2008-02-06 06:14 < White_Cat> because such a company would bankrupt in no time...
2008-02-06 06:14 < White_Cat> her last name says it all
2008-02-06 06:14 * brown_cat_nap throws money at White_Cat
2008-02-06 06:15 < Mike_H> White_Cat: She is a supermodel from the '70s and '80s
2008-02-06 06:15 < White_Cat> I know that
2008-02-06 06:15 * brown_cat_nap throws money at Mike
2008-02-06 06:15 < brown_cat_nap> _H
2008-02-06 06:15 < White_Cat> I actualy can read wikipedia entries. I was inquiring about whats not there
2008-02-06 06:15 < White_Cat> since you are an expert on the matter
2008-02-06 06:15 < White_Cat> :)
2008-02-06 06:15 < Mike_H> that's about it.
2008-02-06 06:15 < White_Cat> 52 years old
2008-02-06 06:16 < White_Cat> thats old
2008-02-06 06:16 < White_Cat> makes me look
2008-02-06 06:16 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-06 06:16 < White_Cat> not so old
2008-02-06 06:16 < White_Cat> -_-'
2008-02-06 06:16 < brown_cat_nap> O_o
2008-02-06 06:19 < zocky> why do all the news stories about the american primaries just talk and talk and talk, but there are no numbers of delegates won?
2008-02-06 06:19 < bumm13> journalism is dead
2008-02-06 06:19 < bumm13> ;p
2008-02-06 06:20 < bumm13> less information, more chatter! \o/
2008-02-06 06:20 < zocky> oh, sexy sadie died
2008-02-06 06:21 < zocky> so, how many delegates to obama and hillary have now?
2008-02-06 06:22 * Lady_Aleena couldn't vote in the primaries since she is listed as independent.
2008-02-06 06:22 < zocky> (which sounds strange as hell to a european, but ok)
2008-02-06 06:23 < zocky> we're not "registered" as supporters of parties, in fact most people would consider such an idea preposterous
2008-02-06 06:23 < Lady_Aleena> zocky, I can't choose a party. There is no such thing as a "lesser of two evils" in politics.
2008-02-06 06:24 < zocky> parties have members (not very many), and they chose their party's candidates. if they have internal elections of some sort, it's their problem and it's not regulated by anyone but themselves.
2008-02-06 06:25 < zocky> general public only votes in real elections
2008-02-06 06:25 < Lady_Aleena> zocky, I wish it were that simple here.
2008-02-06 06:25 < Snowolf> same here in italy - however there was some "primaries" (so they called) to choose left block's leader
2008-02-06 06:26 < White_Cat> bumm13 not true
2008-02-06 06:27 < White_Cat> journalism was never alive to begin with
2008-02-06 06:27 < White_Cat> journalism is giving the information with most words
2008-02-06 06:27 < White_Cat> the more space it occupies the better
2008-02-06 06:27 < White_Cat> how do you think 24 hour news would work otherwise?
2008-02-06 06:27 < zocky> White_Cat, it wasn't always this way
2008-02-06 06:28 < zocky> there was a time when most text in the better papers was produced by people with brains
2008-02-06 06:28 < White_Cat> yea back in 1746 it was better
2008-02-06 06:28 < zocky> White_Cat, no, before the internet it was better
2008-02-06 06:28 < zocky> or maybe before the proliferation of TV channels
2008-02-06 06:28 < White_Cat> in 1746 we had no serries of tubes
2008-02-06 06:28 < White_Cat> tubelessness
2008-02-06 06:28 < White_Cat> down with radio
2008-02-06 06:29 < zocky> radio wasn't as problematic
2008-02-06 06:29 < zocky> the problem now is that everybody has exactly the same news
2008-02-06 06:29 < Lady_Aleena> Speaking of radios, I really need to clean up a space in my car to figure out where I want my CB radio installed. I really miss having one.
2008-02-06 06:29 < zocky> you watch two different news channels (or websites), and they have the same collection of stories
2008-02-06 06:30 < zocky> some of those stories are really important, so it's expected that they will all have them
2008-02-06 06:30 < zocky> but even less important stuff and ha-ha news are now the same in all news outlets
2008-02-06 06:31 < White_Cat> Lady_Aleena buy an ipod with radio :P
2008-02-06 06:31 < bumm13> zocky: it's the problem of the corporations that own TV stations (at least in the U.S.)
2008-02-06 06:31 < White_Cat> bumm13 yes
2008-02-06 06:31 < White_Cat> the monopoly
2008-02-06 06:31 < bumm13> they've bought into the "sensationalism sells" formula for newscasts
2008-02-06 06:31 < White_Cat> in the old days the intention was good
2008-02-06 06:31 < White_Cat> not money
2008-02-06 06:32 < zocky> bumm13, it's focus group marketroidism, as with everything else
2008-02-06 06:32 < bumm13> indeed
2008-02-06 06:32 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: An ipod doesn't allow anonymous communication with other people on the road.
2008-02-06 06:32 < White_Cat> oh that kind of radio
2008-02-06 06:32 < Lady_Aleena> Citizens Band Radio
2008-02-06 06:32 < White_Cat> just buy a handheald one
2008-02-06 06:32 < zocky> it's not "what can we come up with to create interest?", it's "what are people already interested in"
2008-02-06 06:32 < zocky> so everybody just does the same thing over and over
2008-02-06 06:32 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: No real power.
2008-02-06 06:33 < White_Cat> zocky the shows that sell more are the ones not aimed at what the audience expect but the ones based on what the writers wrote
2008-02-06 06:33 < White_Cat> have you seen a single action movie where a helicopter was not involved?
2008-02-06 06:33 < White_Cat> or a car chase?
2008-02-06 06:33 < Lady_Aleena> Handhelds are nice when walking through a convention, but when trying to find out why there is a 20 mile backup, a hand held doesn't have the range.
2008-02-06 06:33 < zocky> White_Cat, not true
2008-02-06 06:34 < White_Cat> zocky what I mean is
2008-02-06 06:34 < zocky> White_Cat, or rather, it is true for the good shows based on what the writers wrote
2008-02-06 06:34 < zocky> but on average, going with the safe option is better for business
2008-02-06 06:34 < White_Cat> today shows are based on what the audiance wants
2008-02-06 06:34 < White_Cat> the scenes are created before writers are hired
2008-02-06 06:34 < White_Cat> it isnt determined by the plot
2008-02-06 06:34 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: Action films in general or action films in a specific genre or time period?
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> the plot merely connects the dots
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> action films today
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> in general
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> no real difference
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> sure the story changes a tiny bit
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> in the past it was different
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> Top Gun for example
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> acion film? Yes.
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> Succesful?
2008-02-06 06:35 < White_Cat> Yes.
2008-02-06 06:36 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: I didn't see a helicopter in Willow.
2008-02-06 06:36 < White_Cat> It however involved no helicopters or car chases
2008-02-06 06:36 < zocky> a good example was the american version of nikita, whatever that is called
2008-02-06 06:36 < White_Cat> Lady_Aleena there was a car chase right?
2008-02-06 06:36 < Lady_Aleena> In Willow? Um no, but there were horse chases.
2008-02-06 06:36 < White_Cat> yes well, that probably had a real plot and real story then
2008-02-06 06:36 < zocky> the original french movie was brilliant, full of surprises, and made you think uncomfortable thoughts and beautiful thoughts
2008-02-06 06:36 < White_Cat> I talk about the vast majority
2008-02-06 06:37 < White_Cat> zocky thats why I like anime
2008-02-06 06:37 < White_Cat> its unpredictable
2008-02-06 06:37 < zocky> the hollywood version just kept the basic story outline
2008-02-06 06:37 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: Please tell me you have seen the film Willow.
2008-02-06 06:37 < White_Cat> Lady_Aleena I have not
2008-02-06 06:37 < White_Cat> I am not a film watcher lately
2008-02-06 06:37 < White_Cat> I watch zocky instead
2008-02-06 06:37 < zocky> but everything that happened in that movie was middle-of-the-road-surprise-me-not instead
2008-02-06 06:38 < White_Cat> My god a rock is falling! Guess whoes head will it impact!
2008-02-06 06:38 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: Um, Willow stars Val Kilmer playing Madmartigan and Warwick Davis as Willow Ofgood.
2008-02-06 06:38 < Lady_Aleena> It's a George Lucas film.
2008-02-06 06:38 < zocky> Lady_Aleena, willow is fantasy, not action
2008-02-06 06:38 < Luna-San> I only barely remember that movie. I mostly remember playing the NES game version, and some elaborate teleportation cheat via which my brother and I mapped out most of the game...
2008-02-06 06:39 < Lady_Aleena> zocky, there is action in it, and White_Cat said any genre.
2008-02-06 06:39 < zocky> it follows a similar, but somewhat different, recipe
2008-02-06 06:39 < White_Cat> I said action films meaning action genre
2008-02-06 06:39 < bumm13> I remember the movie being in theatres
2008-02-06 06:39 < zocky> he said any kind of action movie, I thought
2008-02-06 06:39 < bumm13> but I never bothered watching it
2008-02-06 06:40 < White_Cat> zocky action as in action with a capital A
2008-02-06 06:40 < Lady_Aleena> bumm13: I take it you are not into swords and sorcery films.
2008-02-06 06:40 < White_Cat> much like the capital A of the scarlet letter
2008-02-06 06:40 < Lady_Aleena> Why am I still awake?
2008-02-06 06:40 < Lady_Aleena> That's right, waiting for my hair to dry a bit more.
2008-02-06 06:41 < zocky> White_Cat, yes, I presumed you didn't means swedish action movies
2008-02-06 06:41 < zocky> those don't have helicopters and car chases most of the time
2008-02-06 06:41 < White_Cat> they have action movies in sweeden
2008-02-06 06:41 < Dp67> Lady_Aleena, I don't know.. Go to sleep.. lol
2008-02-06 06:41 < White_Cat> or any action for that matter?
2008-02-06 06:41 < Luna-San> Wait. No helicopters and no car chases?
2008-02-06 06:41 < Luna-San> So... what do they do?
2008-02-06 06:41 < White_Cat> Top Gun
2008-02-06 06:41 < zocky> White_Cat, not swedish (action movies), but rather (swedish action) movies
2008-02-06 06:41 < Lady_Aleena> Dp67: Not yet, my hair is still a bit wetter than I like to lay on my pillow.
2008-02-06 06:42 < White_Cat> zocky like porn?
2008-02-06 06:42 < zocky> White_Cat, of course
2008-02-06 06:42 < White_Cat> any helicopters?
2008-02-06 06:43 < Dp67> gelicopters in porn?
2008-02-06 06:43 < zocky> well, the classical ones from 1970s had helicopters, car chases and whatnot
2008-02-06 06:43 < Dp67> Helicopters
2008-02-06 06:43 < Lady_Aleena> No helicopters in Stargate.
2008-02-06 06:43 < Luna-San> But it had flying things.
2008-02-06 06:43 < zocky> but since VHS, the production values have declined greatly
2008-02-06 06:43 < Luna-San> I don't think I remember any car chases in Stargate. It did have some sort of "last stand."
2008-02-06 06:43 < Lady_Aleena> Luna-San: Those were death gliders.
2008-02-06 06:43 < Luna-San> And a nuke.
2008-02-06 06:44 < Luna-San> Weren't those also infantry in some bizarre way? Saw the movie too long ago to really remember.
2008-02-06 06:44 < Lady_Aleena> No helicopters in The Fifth Element.
2008-02-06 06:44 < zocky> who needs helicopters in a movie when you have flying cars?
2008-02-06 06:44 < Luna-San> But it had flying cars. And I think they got into a chase, even.
2008-02-06 06:44 < zocky> not to mention mila jovovic
2008-02-06 06:45 < Luna-San> Predator: helicopter (briefly)
2008-02-06 06:45 < White_Cat> Lady_Aleena thats because it was an excelent movie
2008-02-06 06:45 < White_Cat> predator was a good movie
2008-02-06 06:45 < White_Cat> there are good ones yes
2008-02-06 06:45 < Lady_Aleena> Luna-San: Lots of helicopter action in Predator.
2008-02-06 06:45 < White_Cat> but they are a minority
2008-02-06 06:46 < Luna-San> Was there? Been too long since I've seen that one, too, then.
2008-02-06 06:46 < White_Cat> Lady_Aleena yes but no one used helicopters like a taxi
2008-02-06 06:46 < Luna-San> Alien had a shuttlecraft. Aliens had that, er, dropship thing.
2008-02-06 06:47 < Luna-San> Matrix had helicopters.
2008-02-06 06:47 < Lady_Aleena> White_Cat: Are you trying to find an actioner without any flying vehicles?
2008-02-06 06:47 < White_Cat> I am finding an action movie which has a real uneque story
2008-02-06 06:47 < White_Cat> that is not a rehash of heliopter secene
2008-02-06 06:47 < White_Cat> car scene
2008-02-06 06:48 < White_Cat> heliopter secene
2008-02-06 06:48 < White_Cat> car scene
2008-02-06 06:48 < zocky> zomg, mila jovovich's grandfather was a stalinist who emigrated from yugoslavia to USSR
2008-02-06 06:48 < White_Cat> heliopter secene with a side order of car scene
2008-02-06 06:48 < White_Cat> and so on
2008-02-06 06:48 < Lady_Aleena> Big Trouble in Little China
2008-02-06 06:48 < arcimboldo_> heliopter secene?
2008-02-06 06:48 < Dp67> Bruce Willis can kill a helicopter with a car
2008-02-06 06:48 < Luna-San> Blame The French Connection for all those awesome car chases.
2008-02-06 06:49 < Luna-San> Dp67: Ohhh, don't remind me. x.x
2008-02-06 06:49 < Lady_Aleena> Big Trouble in Little China has not flying vehicles, just flying people.
2008-02-06 06:49 < zocky> bruce willis can kill a helicopter with the light reflected off his bald head
2008-02-06 06:49 < Lady_Aleena> s/not/no
2008-02-06 06:49 < Dp67> Gone in 60 sec. (The original) had some nice car crashes and chases
2008-02-06 06:51 < Luna-San> They made a sequel to that? :x
2008-02-06 06:51 < Dp67> they made a remake of that
2008-02-06 06:52 < Lady_Aleena> Twister had only car chases after tornados.
2008-02-06 06:53 < bumm13> the original was from 1974
2008-02-06 06:54 < Dp67> and Elenor was a real GT500 not a repainted mock-up
2008-02-06 06:55 < darion76> /quit
2008-02-06 06:56 < White_Cat> look I am not saying car chases are a taboo
2008-02-06 06:56 < White_Cat> see knight rider
2008-02-06 06:58 < Dp67> oh no.. not that hidious show night rifer.
2008-02-06 06:58 < Dp67> rider even
2008-02-06 06:59 < tjl> was that a movie?
2008-02-06 06:59 < tjl> the one where a guy ignites every night and becomes a skeleton
2008-02-06 06:59 < tjl> and kills evil demons?
2008-02-06 06:59 < bumm13> heh, Knight Rider
2008-02-06 06:59 < Dp67> dunno.. I only remember the TV show back in the 80's
2008-02-06 06:59 < slashem> no, the guy who ignites is ghost rider
2008-02-06 06:59 < bumm13> David Hasselhoff and his "talking" car
2008-02-06 07:00 < slashem> nothing to do with the 80's show
2008-02-06 07:00 < tjl> slashem: that's the one
2008-02-06 07:00 < tjl> terrible movie
2008-02-06 07:00 < tjl> absolutely terrible :<
2008-02-06 07:03 < Dp67> I used to love slasher movies.. But that was way back in the day...
2008-02-06 07:04 < Dp67> I still like the old B horrors from back in the 60s and 70s tho..
2008-02-06 07:06 < ChemicalBit> hello!
2008-02-06 07:06 < slashem> hello
2008-02-06 07:06 < ChemicalBit> Is there a tool to (automatically) count the revisions in a page?
2008-02-06 07:07 < slashem> I have not heard of one
2008-02-06 07:10 < ChemicalBit> Adminitrators have to avoid deleting and selctive recovering revison of page with a lot of revisons. More then how much?
2008-02-06 07:10 < Luna-San> I've got some Javascript that'll do it, but beyond that I'm not aware of one.
2008-02-06 07:10 < Luna-San> More than a godawful lot; it's gonna be incredibly rare any pages hit it. I think the original limit was set to several thousand edits.
2008-02-06 07:12 < ChemicalBit> I've heard about trouble delting and recovrering sandbox at wn.wikipedia
2008-02-06 07:12 < Luna-San> Sandboxes and noticeboards would be likely candidates to hit the limit, yeah.
2008-02-06 07:13 < Luna-San> If something really needs to happen to one of these pages, the devs in #wikimedia-tech can probably help out
2008-02-06 07:13 < Dp67> I never could understand why they keep edits going back years.. Talk about wasted space.. Shouldn't only a few months worth be enough?
2008-02-06 07:14 < Luna-San> Theoretically our history pages provide GFDL attribution. But I suppose we don't really need the diffs and oldids for that. *shrug*
2008-02-06 07:15 < Luna-San> Not sure how much difference it makes, in the long run. It will make the database larger, but most server resources are consumed by readers going for basic pageviews (I think)
2008-02-06 07:17 < Dp67> It just seems over redundent to me.,
2008-02-06 08:16 * brown_cat_nap walks around
2008-02-06 08:24 < Luna-San> Ohh, nooo, I'm commenting on the Muhammad debate. Save meeeeee.
2008-02-06 08:24 < Snowolf> indeed, good luck Luna-San
2008-02-06 08:25 < brown_cat_nap> Luna-San: ever need my kiss ass support, pm me :)
2008-02-06 08:26 < Luna-San> heh :p
2008-02-06 08:27 < brown_cat_nap> Luna-San: I challenge you to a flame war
2008-02-06 08:28 < Luna-San> :o But... but...
2008-02-06 08:28 < Luna-San> I know so little of the ways of flame
2008-02-06 08:28 < brown_cat_nap> I will be your sannse
2008-02-06 08:29 < Sannse_cat> Luna-San: repeat after me, "you edit like a pussy"
2008-02-06 08:29 < Luna-San> You edit like kitty. =o.o=
2008-02-06 08:29 < Sannse_cat> xD
2008-02-06 08:31 < Warpath> Sannse will kill you for that ;)
2008-02-06 08:35 * Sannse_cat jumps into the air, does a few somersaults then lands onto Warpath's cat
2008-02-06 08:37 < Sannse_cat> *lap
2008-02-06 08:45 < Takamatsu> Hi, what's the name of the literary phenomena that consists of space being much bigger on the inside than a structure appears to possess, when viewed from the outside?
2008-02-06 08:46 < Warpath> vaccum :P
2008-02-06 08:46 < Warpath> black hole :P
2008-02-06 08:46 < Takamatsu> Like, a structure looks small when viewed from the outside, but when you step inside it, it looks several times bigger.
2008-02-06 08:47 < Takamatsu> You look at a chapel for example, and step inside. When you look around inside, its as if you stepped into a cathedral because it looks so much bigger
2008-02-06 08:47 < Takamatsu> That phenomena is often seen in fictional literary works, but what's the phenomena officially called?
2008-02-06 08:49 < Takamatsu> I'm sure it's other than those, warpath
2008-02-06 08:49 < Warpath> ooh..I'm not sci-fi :(
2008-02-06 08:50 < Takamatsu> that "inflated inner-size" phenomena isn't restricted to sci-fi
2008-02-06 08:50 * Sannse_cat gives Warpath some anti-fi-sci
2008-02-06 08:51 < Warpath> lets just say Claustrophobic
2008-02-06 08:51 < Warpath> :P
2008-02-06 08:51 < Takamatsu> It's like you go into a small building, and once you're in there, it's as if the building grew several times its outdoor size after you went in, and shrunk back to its previous as soon as you walk back out. Something like that.
2008-02-06 08:51 < Takamatsu> warpath, indoor space would -shrink- if you were claustro
2008-02-06 08:51 < Warpath> XD
2008-02-06 08:51 < kenlyric> that's because externals are shot on location and interiors are shot in a studio.
2008-02-06 08:52 < Warpath> XD
2008-02-06 08:52 < kenlyric> and you know why they don't shoot on location inside buildings?
2008-02-06 08:52 < kenlyric> they're typically too small :)
2008-02-06 08:52 < kenlyric> also, expensive, I guess
2008-02-06 08:53 < Takamatsu> it's like [[dr. who]], where the police booth the protag travels in looks quite small but once you're in it, the size gets quite different.
2008-02-06 08:53 < Takamatsu> There's got to be a term for that, a Wikipedia article.
2008-02-06 08:54 < Warpath> i know there is a term for it..but can't remeber
2008-02-06 08:54 < Warpath> it was mentioned in many Xmen comics
2008-02-06 08:54 < Takamatsu> no wonder they shoot indoor scenes in studios most of the times
2008-02-06 08:54 < White_Cat> Takamatsu well
2008-02-06 08:55 < Dp67> Ah! The TARDIS (Time and Relitive Displacement in Space)
2008-02-06 08:55 < White_Cat> inside bigger than outside?
2008-02-06 08:55 < Takamatsu> yes, is there an article about that?
2008-02-06 08:55 < White_Cat> Dp67 thats Mr. TARDIS to you
2008-02-06 08:55 < Mark_Ryan> Dimensions, not Displacement
2008-02-06 08:55 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan only you would care about the difference
2008-02-06 08:55 < Warpath> try optical illusion ;)
2008-02-06 08:55 < Mark_Ryan> White_Cat: it's important!
2008-02-06 08:55 < Warpath> or size perception :P
2008-02-06 08:56 < Takamatsu> Really? [[Size perception]]?
2008-02-06 08:56 * Takamatsu would appreciate having a link-bot in here.
2008-02-06 08:56 < Dp67> Actually, the TARDIS is always refereded to as an "Old Girl" So that would be Miss Tardis
2008-02-06 08:56 < Mark_Ryan> it's not a size perception thing. it's that the inside of it is in a different dimension.
2008-02-06 08:56 < kenlyric> oh, you mean fictionally, like the bottomless bag in D&D
2008-02-06 08:56 < White_Cat> Dp67 naval tradition names all ships as female
2008-02-06 08:56 < Mark_Ryan> kenlyric: no, more like the bag in Mary Poppins
2008-02-06 08:56 < White_Cat> I never seen a sailor attempt to have sexual intercourse with their ship tho
2008-02-06 08:57 < White_Cat> promting that they are male in reality
2008-02-06 08:57 < kenlyric> same kind of bag
2008-02-06 08:57 < White_Cat> but riding a male ship sounds gay
2008-02-06 08:57 < White_Cat> and navies hate gayness
2008-02-06 08:57 < Mark_Ryan> White_Cat: they hate it? they invented it
2008-02-06 08:57 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan which is why they hate it
2008-02-06 08:57 * Mark_Ryan sends White_Cat to listen to "In the Navy" by the Village People
2008-02-06 08:57 < White_Cat> officialy that is
2008-02-06 08:58 < Warpath> kenlyric, is talking about [[Forced perspective]] :P
2008-02-06 08:58 < kenlyric> no
2008-02-06 08:58 < kenlyric> that's something else entirely
2008-02-06 08:58 < Mark_Ryan> forced perspective is how they made Gandalf look so big in many scenes in LOTR
2008-02-06 08:59 < Mark_Ryan> i.e. by having him sitting much closer to the camera than frodo.
2008-02-06 08:59 < kenlyric> I don't think the fictional concept has an accepted single name, or at least I've never heard it.
2008-02-06 08:59 < Sannse_cat> "DuPont has a mixed environmental record" <-- my ass, it is on of the biggest polluters in the world
2008-02-06 09:00 < kenlyric> yeah, they mix pollution with environment. mixed environmental record.
2008-02-06 09:00 < Warpath> ;)
2008-02-06 09:00 < probios> :)
2008-02-06 09:00 < Dp67> Yeah, but they own the state of Deleaware so what are you gonna do?
2008-02-06 09:00 < probios> boycott it?
2008-02-06 09:01 < Mark_Ryan> would anyone miss Delaware if it disappeared?
2008-02-06 09:01 < Warpath> Mark_Ryan, what are you planning? :O
2008-02-06 09:01 < Takamatsu> well YES! I think it IS [[Forced perspective]]. Thanks a lot
2008-02-06 09:01 < Warpath> O_O
2008-02-06 09:02 < Dp67> you'd have a hard time doing it.. They make more products than you can shake a stick at.. What they dont make them make the chemicals that other products rely on.
2008-02-06 09:02 < Mark_Ryan> Warpath: nothing. I'm watching Bridget Jones on TV. maybe later i'll plan.
2008-02-06 09:02 < Takamatsu> What's the matter warpath?
2008-02-06 09:02 < Warpath> Takamatsu, oh goody.. something that was correct..very rare :
2008-02-06 09:02 < Takamatsu> At least I know what it's called now, after having looked at the article
2008-02-06 09:06 < Dp67> the silence is deafining
2008-02-06 09:07 < arcimboldo_> defining?
2008-02-06 09:08 < Dp67> something like that
2008-02-06 09:08 < arcimboldo_> The democratic race would be even more exciting if there were no superdelegates.
2008-02-06 09:09 < Warpath> deafening ;)
2008-02-06 09:09 < Dp67> politics in general make me ill..
2008-02-06 09:10 < Warpath> poltics /fullstop/ make me ill
2008-02-06 09:10 * Dp67 checks the xchat site for spell-check plugins.. lol
2008-02-06 09:10 < juxo> politics is weird
2008-02-06 09:11 < juxo> hi Sfan00
2008-02-06 09:11 < Sfan00> Hello
2008-02-06 09:11 < Sfan00> kylu
2008-02-06 09:11 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-06 09:11 < juxo> did I say politics is weird?
2008-02-06 09:12 < Sfan00> Wiki is starnager ;)
2008-02-06 09:12 < Warpath> Dp67, right click on where you write and select 'check spelling as you type"
2008-02-06 09:12 < Dp67> nope not there..
2008-02-06 09:13 < juxo> politics is weird
2008-02-06 09:13 < Warpath> juxo, we know ;)
2008-02-06 09:14 < juxo> wikipedia is corrupt
2008-02-06 09:14 < Warpath> politics is what you go into when all the real jobs a re taken ;)
2008-02-06 09:14 < Warpath> are*
2008-02-06 09:14 < Warpath> juxo, i won't go that far ;)
2008-02-06 09:18 < juxo> lesseee..
2008-02-06 09:18 < juxo> is cimon here?
2008-02-06 09:19 < juxo> I asked bumm13 to get [[Digiclone]] deleted ok i bes n00bs
2008-02-06 09:20 < Dp67> Maybe this will work..
2008-02-06 09:20 < juxo> ip numbers?
2008-02-06 09:20 < Aqwis3> oh, you're back
2008-02-06 09:21 < juxo> damn you Aqwis3 I hate you but I don't want you to go to hell
2008-02-06 09:21 < Aqwis3> ok
2008-02-06 09:21 < bumm13> juxo - ?
2008-02-06 09:21 < Aqwis3> just a random lunatic
2008-02-06 09:21 < bumm13> it's not nice to say you "hate" people
2008-02-06 09:21 < juxo> hello bumm13 no very XD
2008-02-06 09:21 < Aqwis3> don't worry
2008-02-06 09:22 < open_anal`f> hate is good thing ;]
2008-02-06 09:22 < juxo> I eventually had to vote delete on it to keep the heat off bumm13
2008-02-06 09:22 < open_anal`f> but love is great
2008-02-06 09:22 < open_anal`f> :]
2008-02-06 09:22 < Warpath> >:(
2008-02-06 09:23 < open_anal`f> vote for me dudes:]
2008-02-06 09:23 < juxo> fuck off
2008-02-06 09:23 < open_anal`f> :(
2008-02-06 09:23 < Warpath> ;)
2008-02-06 09:23 < Dp67> oh well takes all kinds..
2008-02-06 09:24 < open_anal`f> you are so rude;(
2008-02-06 09:24 < open_anal`f> i cry..
2008-02-06 09:24 < Warpath> open_anal`f, change your name pliz
2008-02-06 09:24 < open_anal`f> ok
2008-02-06 09:24 < open_anal`f> :]
2008-02-06 09:25 < bumm13> full of beatitudes, I see
2008-02-06 09:25 < Warpath> ;)
2008-02-06 09:25 < juxo> <- fails at trolling
2008-02-06 09:25 < Warpath> <- fails .
2008-02-06 09:26 < juxo> shit scary is shit scary
2008-02-06 09:26 < juxo> being alive
2008-02-06 09:26 < Dp67> being alive is scary?
2008-02-06 09:27 < My_nick_is_Hot`f> do you wanna fuck me?
2008-02-06 09:27 < My_nick_is_Hot`f> a?
2008-02-06 09:27 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-06 09:27 < Dp67> the boot!
2008-02-06 09:27 < White_Cat> bumm13 that is a kind of fetish too
2008-02-06 09:27 < Dp67> hehe
2008-02-06 09:27 < White_Cat> boot sex?
2008-02-06 09:28 < bumm13> :-p
2008-02-06 09:28 < juxo> good for the ops
2008-02-06 09:28 < Warpath> :O
2008-02-06 09:29 < Warpath> bumm13, i wanted to reply :~(
2008-02-06 09:29 < juxo> what's the candidates first quote on shutting the internet down and to switch to a different kind of networking technology?
2008-02-06 09:30 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-06 09:30 < White_Cat> without the internet how would we reach you juxo
2008-02-06 09:30 < bumm13> Warpath: aww
2008-02-06 09:30 < Warpath> ;~(
2008-02-06 09:30 < bumm13> huh, that troll is from Bulgaria :x
2008-02-06 09:31 < Warpath> i would have 'asl' her :p
2008-02-06 09:31 < Dp67> Al Gore invented the Internet just like he invented global warming
2008-02-06 09:31 < juxo> po-li-ti-cs is weird
2008-02-06 09:32 < Mark_Ryan> has anyone here ever driven a Skoda?
2008-02-06 09:32 * bumm13 has not
2008-02-06 09:32 < White_Cat> I drove one crazy
2008-02-06 09:33 < Mark_Ryan> apparently they're czech, and they've started selling them here, of all places
2008-02-06 09:33 < bumm13> huh, interesting
2008-02-06 09:33 < White_Cat> not everywhere
2008-02-06 09:33 < bumm13> I had never heard of them
2008-02-06 09:33 < Dp67> what is a skoda? is that like a massachusetts word for scooter?
2008-02-06 09:33 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-06 09:34 < Snowolf> Mark_Ryan: they are among the highest rated cars in consumer satisfactions surveys
2008-02-06 09:34 < White_Cat> skoda is a type of wheeled vihecle that they used in the early 21th century
2008-02-06 09:34 < Mark_Ryan> Snowolf, expensive? like, BMW/Mercedes Benz?
2008-02-06 09:34 < Snowolf> no
2008-02-06 09:34 < White_Cat> Škoda, in the Czech language meaning "damage", is also a Czech surname, which became a brand name. It can refer to:
2008-02-06 09:34 < White_Cat> Škoda Auto, the leading automobile manufacturer in the Czech Republic (also the main article about Škoda vehicles)
2008-02-06 09:34 < White_Cat> Škoda Works, the biggest industrial enterprise in Austria-Hungary, then Czechoslovakia and now Czech Republic
2008-02-06 09:34 < White_Cat> Skoda Xanthi, a leading football club in Xanthi, Greece sponsored by Škoda Auto
2008-02-06 09:35 < Snowolf> Mark_Ryan: I think they work in the same price range/target of VW, who owns them
2008-02-06 09:35 < White_Cat> I seriously doubt Mark_Ryan attempted to drive a football club
2008-02-06 09:35 < bumm13> ah
2008-02-06 09:35 < Snowolf> XD
2008-02-06 09:35 < Gambit> O_O
2008-02-06 09:35 < Mark_Ryan> SEAT, that's another (obscure here) car maker that has occasionally sold cars here
2008-02-06 09:35 < White_Cat> Slogan Simply Clever
2008-02-06 09:35 < Snowolf> Mark_Ryan: VW too
2008-02-06 09:35 < Snowolf> ex spanish I think
2008-02-06 09:36 < Dp67> I want a Mini
2008-02-06 09:36 < Mark_Ryan> god, VW went on a buying spree
2008-02-06 09:36 < Snowolf> indeed
2008-02-06 09:36 < Snowolf> Bentley too
2008-02-06 09:36 < Dp67> a Mini Cooper S that is
2008-02-06 09:36 < Snowolf> Lamborghini
2008-02-06 09:36 < White_Cat> Skoda Felicia
2008-02-06 09:36 < Gambit> Audi's rule \o/
2008-02-06 09:36 < Mark_Ryan> yesterday Mitsubishi announced that they're going to close down their Australian factory
2008-02-06 09:36 < Snowolf> Bugatti, Audi, everything's VW this days :)
2008-02-06 09:37 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan I think australia should be moved to the atlantic
2008-02-06 09:37 < Gambit> XD
2008-02-06 09:37 < Mark_Ryan> White_Cat: would it fit?
2008-02-06 09:37 < White_Cat> then people would care more about australia
2008-02-06 09:37 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan sure
2008-02-06 09:37 < Dp67> Soon GM will be Toyota.. lol
2008-02-06 09:37 < Snowolf> Mark_Ryan: you'll still have the Monaro (do I remember the spelling correctly?)
2008-02-06 09:37 < White_Cat> you can fit anything into the atlantic
2008-02-06 09:37 < Mark_Ryan> Snowolf: actually, they discontinued that last year
2008-02-06 09:37 < White_Cat> and if it doesnt just misplace europe
2008-02-06 09:37 < Snowolf> uhm that's right :(
2008-02-06 09:37 < White_Cat> I know switch the places of europe and australia
2008-02-06 09:37 < Snowolf> but there was enough stock for some time I recall
2008-02-06 09:38 < Mark_Ryan> the monaro is overrated anyway. it was based on the Commodore like 2 models ago
2008-02-06 09:38 < Mark_Ryan> and Commodores are crap at the best of times :P
2008-02-06 09:38 < Snowolf> Mark_Ryan: tell Top Gear that :P
2008-02-06 09:39 < White_Cat> Commodore?
2008-02-06 09:39 < Mark_Ryan> [[Holden Commodore]]
2008-02-06 09:39 < Mark_Ryan> Commodores have awful interior styling
2008-02-06 09:39 < White_Cat> Commodore 64?
2008-02-06 09:39 * Snowolf goes back to work on his kylu's stolen wikimatrix
2008-02-06 09:40 < Mark_Ryan> they are uncomfortable, with pissy sound systems and (for some reason) random plastic caps all over the carpet on the floor
2008-02-06 09:40 < Dp67> A Comodore Vic 20
2008-02-06 09:40 < Mark_Ryan> the current [[Ford Falcon (Australia)]] is way better, except maybe in engine terms
2008-02-06 09:41 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan so it is like the flying fortress
2008-02-06 09:41 < White_Cat> an overrated brick
2008-02-06 09:42 < Mark_Ryan> White_Cat: they are used by idiots who like to drag race very fast along back streets with music blaring and collide with trees and die
2008-02-06 09:42 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan so it is a one time hoby
2008-02-06 09:42 < Mark_Ryan> White_Cat: hopefully
2008-02-06 09:42 < White_Cat> poor trees tho
2008-02-06 09:42 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan do you know how it feels to do a head on with such a brick?
2008-02-06 09:43 < White_Cat> think how the tree feels!
2008-02-06 09:43 * Mark_Ryan covets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:XR6_Turbo.jpg
2008-02-06 09:54 < juxo> wtf trolling now?
2008-02-06 09:57 < Gambit> hey ais523 :)
2008-02-06 09:58 < ais523> hello
2008-02-06 10:03 < Zach> is there any reason why someone named McCreary would be sorted under "Maccreary"?
2008-02-06 10:04 < ais523> so that it sorts under Ma rather than Mc, presumably
2008-02-06 10:04 < Zach> well the name is not MacCreary
2008-02-06 10:04 < ais523> the sortkey is independent of the actual name
2008-02-06 10:05 < ais523> and often uses different characters so that it sorts in the right place
2008-02-06 10:05 < Zach> why would it be intentionally NOT sorted by name?
2008-02-06 10:05 < ais523> e.g umlauts might be expanded as two vowels so that they appear in the right place in the sort order
2008-02-06 10:05 < ais523> presumably someone thinks that names starting Mc should be sorted under Mac
2008-02-06 10:05 < ais523> just like dictionaries often sort place names beginning "St" under "Saint"
2008-02-06 10:06 < ais523> I'm not sure where consensus would be to sort a name starting like that, though
2008-02-06 10:24 < Zach> can someone with rollback revert http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_McCreary_%28referee%29&action=history back to my edit? crappy vandalism and attacks and npov crap
2008-02-06 10:24 < Zach> and possibly semi-protect
2008-02-06 10:24 < ais523> why would it need rollback?
2008-02-06 10:25 < ais523> you can revert edits yourself by clicking on the date of the edit to revert to, clicking 'edit', writing an edit summary and saving
2008-02-06 10:25 < ais523> it's substantially faster than asking for someone with rollback to help you out...
2008-02-06 10:25 < Zach> hm, ok
2008-02-06 10:25 < Zach> well semi-protection?
2008-02-06 10:26 < Paine> http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91059-1304220,00.html?f=rss o.O
2008-02-06 10:28 < TLC> hi
2008-02-06 10:29 < Zach> i imagine the vandalism will get worse as more people watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZueO0M7vVRE
2008-02-06 10:32 < Zach> i just reverted npov/attacks for a third time.
2008-02-06 10:32 < ais523> might want to ask at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=WP:RFPP then
2008-02-06 10:33 < NotACow> yay, you
2008-02-06 10:36 < Sfan00> Paine: I can think of a number of reasons why they might hevae been there , but not the sort of ting you have around with children in the house
2008-02-06 10:37 < NotACow> yay! revertomatic!
2008-02-06 10:44 < Dp67> LOL how embarasing is that.. Mom having to explain why shes got cuffs in her bedroom.. lol
2008-02-06 10:45 < justlee> just who would need an explanation?
2008-02-06 10:45 < Dp67> umm her son who got stuck in them
2008-02-06 10:45 < NotACow> obviously she has them in case a burglar breaks in
2008-02-06 10:45 < NotACow> always be prepared
2008-02-06 10:46 < NotACow> right next to her nightstick
2008-02-06 10:46 < justlee> Is that something you would want your mother to explain?
2008-02-06 10:46 < NotACow> no?
2008-02-06 10:46 < justlee> a silicone nightstick?
2008-02-06 10:47 < justlee> Really, All that needs to be said is that they are not for children to be playing with.
2008-02-06 10:48 < Dp67> someone get your boots on..
2008-02-06 10:48 < GayCatIsGay> I hope they have rhinestones in them
2008-02-06 10:49 < GayCatIsGay> I like sodomy
2008-02-06 10:50 < NotACow> and people wonder why this channel is in the gutter most of the time.
2008-02-06 10:52 < RickRoll_Cat> rick roll cat is rick roll
2008-02-06 10:53 < RickRoll_Cat> We're no strangers to love
2008-02-06 10:53 < RickRoll_Cat> You know the rules and so do I
2008-02-06 10:53 < RickRoll_Cat> A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
2008-02-06 10:53 < RickRoll_Cat> You wouldn't get this from any other guy
2008-02-06 10:53 < Aqwis> ohgod
2008-02-06 10:53 < Snowolf> uh?
2008-02-06 10:53 < bumm13> stfu please
2008-02-06 10:55 < Dp67> Yay!
2008-02-06 10:56 < justlee> I am reminded by a recent post I read, where a grown woman asked her own mother why she had six full sized pillows on the bed.
2008-02-06 10:57 < justlee> The mother said they were for sex.
2008-02-06 10:57 < justlee> The woman regretted having asked
2008-02-06 10:57 < bumm13> lovely...
2008-02-06 10:59 < Sfan00> Of course handcuffss are DIFFICULT to obtain
2008-02-06 10:59 < Dp67> no they arent
2008-02-06 10:59 < Sfan00> You really have to know the places to buy them
2008-02-06 10:59 < Sfan00> (In the UK0
2008-02-06 10:59 < Sfan00> )
2008-02-06 10:59 < justlee> Difficult?
2008-02-06 10:59 < Dp67> in the UK maybe.. not in the US
2008-02-06 10:59 < Sfan00> PROPER ones are
2008-02-06 10:59 < Sfan00> difficult to find
2008-02-06 11:00 < Sfan00> most of the joke shop ones are easily picked
2008-02-06 11:00 < NotACow> handcuffs are trivial to obtain
2008-02-06 11:00 < Sfan00> and at times are more dnagerous because of they way the potential fialure mode on the ratchet mechanism
2008-02-06 11:00 < Sfan00> NotACow: In the US?
2008-02-06 11:00 < NotACow> there are four stores within two miles of my house that sell them.
2008-02-06 11:00 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-06 11:00 < NotACow> possibly more
2008-02-06 11:01 < justlee> I really hate hand cuffs
2008-02-06 11:01 < NotACow> jane's bonds are much better
2008-02-06 11:01 < justlee> rope is too
2008-02-06 11:01 < Sfan00> Jane's Bonds?
2008-02-06 11:01 < justlee> yeah
2008-02-06 11:01 < justlee> nice velcro padded cuffs
2008-02-06 11:01 < justlee> very strond
2008-02-06 11:01 < justlee> strong
2008-02-06 11:02 < Sfan00> Used by ?
2008-02-06 11:02 < justlee> me
2008-02-06 11:02 < Sfan00> Physicatric or Law enforcment I would expect?
2008-02-06 11:02 < justlee> no
2008-02-06 11:02 < NotACow> uh, no
2008-02-06 11:02 < justlee> the only enforcement I do is computer security occassionaly
2008-02-06 11:02 < Dp67> purely for pleasure
2008-02-06 11:03 < justlee> that is the goal
2008-02-06 11:03 < Sfan00> That said I thought law enforcment was moving to cable tie type cuffs
2008-02-06 11:03 < Sfan00> DP67: :O
2008-02-06 11:03 < justlee> not a bad idea if they are
2008-02-06 11:03 < Sfan00> Some people get off on being cuffed :O
2008-02-06 11:03 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-06 11:03 < Sfan00> Sick
2008-02-06 11:03 < justlee> not pickable, easily removed when there is a need
2008-02-06 11:03 < Dp67> they use cable tie cuffs because they are disposable
2008-02-06 11:03 < justlee> sick?
2008-02-06 11:03 < justlee> why?
2008-02-06 11:04 < Sfan00> "It ain't natural to tie down your partner " in consenual sex
2008-02-06 11:04 < Dp67> you can also carry them by the bag load when you're busting a crowd
2008-02-06 11:04 < Sfan00> Dp67: Yeah
2008-02-06 11:04 < justlee> natural?
2008-02-06 11:05 < Sfan00> SM is not natural sexual expression
2008-02-06 11:05 < justlee> king sized beds are not natural either, but I enjoy sleeping in them.
2008-02-06 11:05 < Sfan00> I am actualy rather glad Wikipedia treats Sm from a physciatric perspective
2008-02-06 11:06 < Sfan00> As it should be
2008-02-06 11:06 < Sfan00> rather than the 'te-he' naught fun some people do
2008-02-06 11:07 * Ceiling_Cat huggles Sfan00
2008-02-06 11:07 < Sfan00> Ceiling_Cat: Huh?
2008-02-06 11:07 < justlee> psychiatricly, it is nto a disorder unless it is someone's exclusive form of sexual expression and indulging in it keeps them from living a normal life
2008-02-06 11:07 < Sfan00> SM people live normal lives? ROFL
2008-02-06 11:08 < justlee> Sfan00: yes, many people who tie each other up to fuck have otherwise normal lives
2008-02-06 11:08 < Sfan00> If it can be 'normal' why is it underground
2008-02-06 11:08 < justlee> underground in what way>
2008-02-06 11:08 < Sfan00> justlee: I would disagree... because a lot of Sm invovles a power trip on the part of one partner
2008-02-06 11:09 < justlee> Sfan00: and what if they take turns being the top?
2008-02-06 11:09 < justlee> Sfan00: how old are you?
2008-02-06 11:09 < Sfan00> That doesn't change the fact that there is a power trip involved
2008-02-06 11:09 < Sfan00> justlee: Over 21
2008-02-06 11:09 < justlee> Sfan00: under 30?
2008-02-06 11:09 < Sfan00> Yes
2008-02-06 11:10 < justlee> so, you think that any sex that involves inequality of power is unnatural and sick?
2008-02-06 11:10 < Sfan00> No
2008-02-06 11:10 < Sfan00> Just most forms of sex that invole unequal power...
2008-02-06 11:10 < NotACow> whats unequal?
2008-02-06 11:11 < NotACow> in most SM situations, the bottom is actually in charge
2008-02-06 11:11 < justlee> so, any forms that you personally do not find interesting?
2008-02-06 11:11 < Sfan00> (:O