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2008-02-05 20:15 < Gracenotes> o_o
2008-02-05 20:15 < Gracenotes> wiki says it's the second-longest running
2008-02-05 20:15 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: Yeah. I meant this specific storyline has gone on for nine months.
2008-02-05 20:15 < Gracenotes> ah, I see
2008-02-05 20:16 < TheWeasel> Delaware has 100% for the moon.
2008-02-05 20:16 < Mike_H> Luke is gay, and Noah was gay but didn't want to admit it because he had a cracked-out father. Then he finally did, dumped the girl he "loved," and got together with Luke. Then Noah's dad shot Luke and Luke became paralyzed. Now Luke and Noah are together "for good" and Luke can walk again.
2008-02-05 20:16 < TheWeasel> A blank round thing.
2008-02-05 20:16 < Mike_H> That's basically a summary of what's happened in the last nine months.
2008-02-05 20:18 < gwern> whenever I listen to whackedout soap opera fans or other devotees of fictional worlds such as celebrities or anime, I think about a theory I once heard about Dunbar's number, that every human craves a certain amount of contact but no more, and that those are fictional substitutes for the old village/tribe gossiping and interaction
2008-02-05 20:18 < ggreer> it makes sense that soap operas continue. people who write soap operas aren't writers
2008-02-05 20:19 < Mike_H> gwern: On some level you're right but not totally.
2008-02-05 20:20 < Mike_H> I think originally it was like that, when America was growing and the "small town" disintegrated, with people moving to the cities and whatnot, but nowadays I think people just watch it for the drama, or because their parents got them into it, etc.
2008-02-05 20:20 < Mike_H> With soaps I believe people get into it as much as they do because they can see facets of themselves in the characters, and they can "identify," in a way.
2008-02-05 20:20 < ggreer> people who don't do work watch soap operas
2008-02-05 20:21 < gwern> Mike_H: now it's an institution?
2008-02-05 20:21 < Mike_H> oh, honey, not anymore, now that they're on YouTube, I can watch them whenever I have a moment free
2008-02-05 20:21 < SWATJester> soaps are interesting
2008-02-05 20:21 < SWATJester> not in terms of content, but in terms of character design
2008-02-05 20:21 < Mike_H> gwern: Among some people, yes. I wouldn't say it's all encompassing but definitely for the people who have and do watch.
2008-02-05 20:22 < Mike_H> gwern: It's usually passed down from generations more so than it is just an acquired taste by turning it on one day.
2008-02-05 20:22 < Mike_H> If my mother didn't watch soaps I probably wouldn't.
2008-02-05 20:22 < ggreer> who has time to watch soap operas? housewives, that's who
2008-02-05 20:22 < SWATJester> prime time dramas nowadays have these incredibly deep and complex characters, which people tend to identify with at least some part of each character. But in contrast, soaps have these very cut and dry, not very multifaceted characters that can usually be summed up into a word or two. It makes them easy for people to understand, easy to like and dislike characters etc.
2008-02-05 20:23 < SWATJester> and when they identify with one, it's usually going to be strongly
2008-02-05 20:23 < Mike_H> ggreer: again, <Mike_H> oh, honey, not anymore, now that they're on YouTube, I can watch them whenever I have a moment free
2008-02-05 20:23 < ggreer> SWATJester: and that is why soap operas are lame. characters and plots should be complex but internally consistent
2008-02-05 20:23 < Mike_H> SWATJester: I disagree.
2008-02-05 20:23 < SWATJester> says you.
2008-02-05 20:24 < Mike_H> With soaps it takes more time to carve out a character and it can be argued that their backgrounds and behaviors are more complex than people you see once a week for 22 episodes a year.
2008-02-05 20:24 < SWATJester> point is, everyone has different interests and gets different amounts out of different things
2008-02-05 20:24 < ggreer> some people like fine wines, others drink pepsi all day and get diabetes
2008-02-05 20:24 < NotACow> BUCKABEE!
2008-02-05 20:24 < ggreer> I like your analogy SWATJester
2008-02-05 20:24 < Mike_H> ggreer: I guess my point is, if they do choose to do that, what is it to you?
2008-02-05 20:24 < SWATJester> and some people are wine snobs, and there are people like me who appreciate good wine and drink shittons of coke
2008-02-05 20:24 < Mike_H> People go different ways.
2008-02-05 20:25 < Mike_H> If it isn't your way, what does it matter?
2008-02-05 20:25 < SWATJester> everyone's different.
2008-02-05 20:25 < NotACow> SWATJester: nonsense! everyone is the same!
2008-02-05 20:25 < ggreer> Mike_H: well fat people with diabetes are disgusting, and I'd prefer not to be in the same room as them
2008-02-05 20:25 < SWATJester> Lol
2008-02-05 20:25 < SWATJester> (at notacow)
2008-02-05 20:25 * NotACow likes fat people and doesn't care if they have diabetes.
2008-02-05 20:25 < Mike_H> ggreer: You are aware that not everyone who has diabetes is fat, yes?
2008-02-05 20:25 < NotACow> my gf had diabetes while she was pregnant
2008-02-05 20:25 < SWATJester> yeah, fat people with diabetes are way more fun than skinny people with diabetes
2008-02-05 20:25 < Mike_H> and likewise, not every fat person has diabetes?
2008-02-05 20:25 < TheWeasel> This is the end of Romney.
2008-02-05 20:25 < Mike_H> I'm fat and I don't have diabetes.
2008-02-05 20:25 < NotACow> indeed, actually Type 1 diabetics are likely to be thin
2008-02-05 20:25 < Mike_H> I get tested every year.
2008-02-05 20:26 < ggreer> haha
2008-02-05 20:26 < Mike_H> I'm not even in danger range.
2008-02-05 20:26 < SWATJester> you can get tested for diabetes?
2008-02-05 20:26 < SWATJester> i didn't know that.
2008-02-05 20:26 < SWATJester> it tells you if you're at risk?
2008-02-05 20:26 < ggreer> SWATJester: yeah, measure blood sugar
2008-02-05 20:26 < Mike_H> SWATJester: Yeah, they can test your blood for risk
2008-02-05 20:26 < SWATJester> oh cool. I should do that.
2008-02-05 20:26 < Mike_H> I'm atypical for my family
2008-02-05 20:26 < ggreer> and by at risk they mean at risk for type 2 diabetes
2008-02-05 20:26 < NotACow> SWATJester: duh.
2008-02-05 20:26 < Mike_H> because diabetes is genetic in my family
2008-02-05 20:26 < ggreer> type 1 just shows up in your teens
2008-02-05 20:26 < NotACow> SWATJester: obviously nobody in your life has ever been pregnant
2008-02-05 20:26 < ggreer> Mike_H: if you had type 1 diabetes you wouldn't be fat
2008-02-05 20:27 < SWATJester> NotACow: nope.
2008-02-05 20:27 < SWATJester> nor diabetic.
2008-02-05 20:27 < NotACow> ggreer: some type 1 diabetics are fat, but it's uncommon
2008-02-05 20:27 < Mike_H> ggreer: and Type 1 doesn't always strike early.
2008-02-05 20:27 < Mike_H> Mary Tyler Moore was not diagnosed with Type 1 until her 50s.
2008-02-05 20:27 * NotAYert sees clinton swiping all states.
2008-02-05 20:27 < NotACow> type 1 can show up anywhere from a few years old into early adulthood
2008-02-05 20:27 < NotACow> it all depends on when you get exposed to the virus that triggers it
2008-02-05 20:28 < SWATJester> NotAYert: except georgia and illinois, thus far.
2008-02-05 20:28 < NotAYert> :O
2008-02-05 20:28 < NotACow> california is the one that matters and it hasn't closed yet
2008-02-05 20:28 < SWATJester> yeah, and won't for like 4 months
2008-02-05 20:28 * NotAYert points to Oklahoma, Tennessee
2008-02-05 20:28 < TheWeasel> California isn't closed over the winter?
2008-02-05 20:28 < SWATJester> Clinton's only won oklahoma so far
2008-02-05 20:29 < ggreer> TheWeasel: winter in california is rather warm
2008-02-05 20:29 < ggreer> I was driving around with the top down in mid january
2008-02-05 20:29 < NotAYert> SWATJester: Shes leading in Tennessee by 25 points.
2008-02-05 20:29 < NotAYert> 54 to 34
2008-02-05 20:29 < SWATJester> meh. Illinois is way more delegate rich than Tennessee.
2008-02-05 20:29 < SWATJester> So is Georgia, for that matter
2008-02-05 20:29 < TheWeasel> Sure, but people might want to change the props and background a bit.
2008-02-05 20:29 < SWATJester> I think those are 2 of the 5 states over 100 delegates.
2008-02-05 20:29 < NotACow> SWATJester: duh
2008-02-05 20:29 < Mike_H> SWATJester: She also won Alabama
2008-02-05 20:29 < ggreer> NotAYert: you see this is how the democrats are going to lose the next presidential election
2008-02-05 20:29 < Mike_H> as my black roommate said
2008-02-05 20:29 < NotACow> SWATJester: tennessee voted overwhelminngly for bush in '04
2008-02-05 20:30 < ggreer> by having hillary as their candidate
2008-02-05 20:30 < Mike_H> "you know Alabama ain't votin' for a nigger anytime soon"
2008-02-05 20:30 < NotACow> SWATJester: so their delegate count is cut as a result.
2008-02-05 20:30 < justlee> what about ct?
2008-02-05 20:30 < NotAYert> Shes winning in Massachusetts by 20 too.
2008-02-05 20:30 < TheWeasel> Hillary and Huck winning AR
2008-02-05 20:30 < NotACow> SWATJester: dems allocate delegates based on the percentage voting for the dem in the last two general elections
2008-02-05 20:30 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: no shockers there
2008-02-05 20:30 < Mike_H> they're from there
2008-02-05 20:30 < NotAYert> CNN predicted Arkansas for clinton
2008-02-05 20:30 < TheWeasel> Yup.
2008-02-05 20:30 < SWATJester> notacow, I realize this.
2008-02-05 20:30 < Gracenotes> New York doesn't have many results...
2008-02-05 20:30 < SWATJester> where are you guys getting these exit polls results?
2008-02-05 20:31 * NotAYert likes the sound when CNN makes predictions.
2008-02-05 20:31 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: New York is a large state
2008-02-05 20:31 < Mike_H> it takes longer to count the votes
2008-02-05 20:31 < Gracenotes> yes, yes...
2008-02-05 20:31 < Mike_H> as opposed to Alabama, where like 15 people live.
2008-02-05 20:31 < NotACow> their polls close late, too
2008-02-05 20:31 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-02-05 20:31 < TheWeasel> Romney has awesome Joementum.
2008-02-05 20:31 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: They're all related, too.
2008-02-05 20:31 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: fun fact: 75% of Alabamians are also related to Mississippians.
2008-02-05 20:31 * NotAYert scolds NotACow for voting obama.
2008-02-05 20:32 < NotACow> NotAYert: bite me?
2008-02-05 20:32 < TheWeasel> Missersippuh!
2008-02-05 20:32 < NotAYert> NotACow: Did you vote for him? If you dont mind telling.
2008-02-05 20:32 < TheWeasel> Clinton wins TN.
2008-02-05 20:32 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: The lovely state of Mississippi, where the average ACT score and number of teeth in one's mouth is the same.
2008-02-05 20:32 < Mike_H> 14.
2008-02-05 20:32 < SWATJester> hmm obama is winning connecticut
2008-02-05 20:32 < NotACow> NotAYert: the only vote i'm admitting to at this time is for Rahm Emmanuel.
2008-02-05 20:33 < NotAYert> SWATJester: By 2 %
2008-02-05 20:33 < NotACow> DEATH TO YERTS
2008-02-05 20:33 < TheWeasel> the less south south is apparently friendlier to Hillary
2008-02-05 20:33 < TheWeasel> Arkansas, Tennessee
2008-02-05 20:33 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I don't know, I'd consider Arkansas pretty damn South.
2008-02-05 20:33 < SWATJester> no
2008-02-05 20:33 < SWATJester> not south at all
2008-02-05 20:34 < Mike_H> SWATJester: jigga wha?
2008-02-05 20:34 < NotAYert> clinton is leading in alabama
2008-02-05 20:34 < SWATJester> there's a difference between midwest and south.
2008-02-05 20:34 < Mike_H> have you BEEN thurr?
2008-02-05 20:34 < Gracenotes> today, my district's congressional representative visited my school and talked about fuel and stuffs... it was interesting... >.<
2008-02-05 20:34 < TheWeasel> I saw a saw in Arkansas that outsawed any saw I ever saw.
2008-02-05 20:34 < NotAYert> DEATH TO COWS
2008-02-05 20:34 < Gracenotes> he was previously a musician: the guy in the front, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Waking_and_dreaming.gif
2008-02-05 20:34 < justlee> Arkansas is in the South
2008-02-05 20:34 < SWATJester> mike_h are there mosquitos in Arkansas?
2008-02-05 20:34 < Mike_H> Arkansas is safely Southern. It's not Midwest at all. Midwest does not start until south-central Missouri.
2008-02-05 20:34 < TheWeasel> DEATH TO SOWS
2008-02-05 20:35 < gwern> NotAYert: if you are not a yert, that leaves open the possibility you are a cow
2008-02-05 20:35 < TheWeasel> The Dems are doing far better in Arkansas than in other parts of the South.
2008-02-05 20:35 < gwern> since a cow is not a yert
2008-02-05 20:35 < TheWeasel> I wonder why
2008-02-05 20:35 < SWATJester> arkansas is completely midwest. hence why they're in the midwest regional
2008-02-05 20:35 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Arkansas is a key piece in the puzzle, as it has a lot of black voters but not a strong enough showing for Obama.
2008-02-05 20:36 < justlee> SWATJester: Have you been there? Have you heard anyone from there speak beside Bill Clinton?
2008-02-05 20:36 < Mike_H> SWATJester: Arkansas is Southern and I'm not gonna hear one more word about it.
2008-02-05 20:36 < TheWeasel> I wonder why it was so faithful to the Democrats even after 1994
2008-02-05 20:36 < SWATJester> Justlee, Been there, no. Lived with people from there, yes.
2008-02-05 20:36 < Mike_H> Arkansas is rural. Rural does not always equal Midwest.
2008-02-05 20:36 < Mike_H> In fact, rural is a pretty good signifier of the South too.
2008-02-05 20:36 < SWATJester> Rural don't equal southern either
2008-02-05 20:36 < justlee> I have family there
2008-02-05 20:37 < justlee> I spent a lot of time there
2008-02-05 20:37 < Mike_H> justlee: My great-grandfather is from Arkansas.
2008-02-05 20:37 < Mike_H> It's Southern for real.
2008-02-05 20:37 < TheWeasel> My question has not been answered.
2008-02-05 20:37 < NotAYert> Clinton leads in NJ by 25 %
2008-02-05 20:37 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I missed it
2008-02-05 20:37 < NotACow> arkansas is southern.
2008-02-05 20:37 < justlee> My grand father is from there
2008-02-05 20:37 < Mike_H> repetez.
2008-02-05 20:37 < TheWeasel> I wonder why Arkansas was so faithful to the Democrats even after 1994
2008-02-05 20:37 < NotACow> all you ahve to do is eat breakfast there and you'll be convinced.
2008-02-05 20:37 < TheWeasel> 3-1 with two senators
2008-02-05 20:37 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: It's a state in which more than a few white voters are Democrat, which is kind of a rarity in the South.
2008-02-05 20:38 < TheWeasel> the Dems have a majority in registration everywhere in the south, doesn't mean they vote for Democrats
2008-02-05 20:38 < SWATJester> interesting that according to the US government, Arkansas is midwest, not south
2008-02-05 20:38 < Mark_Ryan> how do people pronounce the 'GA' as in Georgia's abbreviation?
2008-02-05 20:38 < TheWeasel> in Arkansas they do.
2008-02-05 20:38 < justlee> Redeye Gravy, salt pork, sausage, white gravy, cocoa gravy, two kinds of biscuits and oat meal for breakfast
2008-02-05 20:38 < justlee> that is southern
2008-02-05 20:38 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: But in terms of actual voting for candidates
2008-02-05 20:38 < Mike_H> only two states ALWAYS go for the Democrats in the South
2008-02-05 20:38 < Mike_H> and that's Arkansas
2008-02-05 20:38 < SWATJester> Mark_Ryan: Gee Ay.
2008-02-05 20:38 < Mike_H> and West Virginia.
2008-02-05 20:38 < TheWeasel> Yea. In Arkansas they can be arsed.
2008-02-05 20:38 < TheWeasel> I don't know why
2008-02-05 20:39 < Mark_Ryan> SWATJester: how disappointing
2008-02-05 20:39 < NotACow> if there's more than one type of gravy with breakfast, you are either in the south or in some sort of weirdo buffet
2008-02-05 20:39 < Mike_H> justlee: white gravy :D
2008-02-05 20:39 < Mike_H> i'm hungry now
2008-02-05 20:39 < TheWeasel> "that's a Democratic caucus right there!"
2008-02-05 20:39 < NotACow> plus, they serve their tea sweet.
2008-02-05 20:39 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-02-05 20:39 < SWATJester> justlee: substitute in some grits for that oatmeal, and you might be south
2008-02-05 20:39 < Mike_H> justlee: When people make hick jokes about Alabama (where I'm from), I tell them to make fun of a more deserving candidate, Arkansas :D
2008-02-05 20:39 < NotAYert> Clinton wins Missouri.
2008-02-05 20:40 < TheWeasel> Wolf Blitzer always reminds me of Billy Crystal's psychiatrist persona
2008-02-05 20:40 < NotAYert> TheWeasel: Blitzer is no good.
2008-02-05 20:40 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H: I saw a group on Facebook targeted at Florida which says "well at least my state doesn't look like a penis"
2008-02-05 20:40 < TheWeasel> He's very New York
2008-02-05 20:40 < justlee> The secret to biscuits is to turn them over in the bacon grease before baking them
2008-02-05 20:40 < NotAYert> Sometimes he just stares blankly at the camera, not knowing waht to say. TheWeasel
2008-02-05 20:40 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: that's not a bad thing
2008-02-05 20:40 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-05 20:40 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H: I agree
2008-02-05 20:40 < Mike_H> justlee: Oh, my momma just bakes them in the oven
2008-02-05 20:40 < TheWeasel> and then he talks and talks ceaselessly
2008-02-05 20:41 < TheWeasel> without even catching breath
2008-02-05 20:41 < justlee> Well, my aunt bo bo showed me that trick
2008-02-05 20:41 < Mike_H> justlee: Yeah, you can't say your aunt is Midwestern with a name like Bo Bo
2008-02-05 20:41 < Mark_Ryan> is anyone here watching FOX News?
2008-02-05 20:41 * TheWeasel wonders whether computer algorithms do the projections
2008-02-05 20:41 < NotAYert> Ew.
2008-02-05 20:41 < NotAYert> Fox News is awful
2008-02-05 20:42 < NotAYert> CNN has nice colorful graphics, and cool sounds when they predict.
2008-02-05 20:42 < Mark_Ryan> anyone?
2008-02-05 20:42 < justlee> Well, not when we also have a Lagatha and a Eudeen and and Obeta in the same family
2008-02-05 20:42 < Mike_H> my friend Lotoya, her legal last name is Bobo, she's from the small town of Calhoun City, Mississippi
2008-02-05 20:42 < gwern> Mark_Ryan: might as well ask 'Is anyone here a stupid republican, or someone with odd taste in humor?'
2008-02-05 20:42 < Mike_H> justlee: Eudeen, love it!
2008-02-05 20:42 < Mark_Ryan> gwern: that was kind of the gist of what I was going to say to anyone who admitted watching it
2008-02-05 20:42 < Mike_H> Our most colorful name is Dolores and that's not even specifically Southern.
2008-02-05 20:42 < NotACow> Mike_H: we were looking at lee's family geneaology while waiting at the doctor's office
2008-02-05 20:42 < NotACow> there are some GREAT names in there, there are!
2008-02-05 20:42 < TheWeasel> It's weird that they give Romney the color brown
2008-02-05 20:42 < justlee> Beula is in there too
2008-02-05 20:42 < TheWeasel> I wonder what that tells us
2008-02-05 20:42 < justlee> and a beauragard too
2008-02-05 20:43 < Mark_Ryan> what colour did they give Clinton? and did they do the unthinkable and make Obama black>
2008-02-05 20:43 < TheWeasel> Beauregard means "nice view"
2008-02-05 20:43 < TheWeasel> odd for a guy
2008-02-05 20:43 < gwern> Mark_Ryan: I think faux news watchers are by now aware of the general low esteem they are held in by the general population...
2008-02-05 20:43 < Mark_Ryan> they've actually launched a local version of FOX News here in Australia recently
2008-02-05 20:43 < Mike_H> justlee: Yeah, our names are Southern but not overboard on it
2008-02-05 20:44 < Mark_Ryan> 18 hours a day or so is content direct from the US, I think.
2008-02-05 20:44 < Mike_H> my uncle and aunt are Buddy and Sallie, which don't sound horribly that way, but if you hear us say it you totally get the vibe
2008-02-05 20:44 < gwern> ooh! new signpost
2008-02-05 20:44 * gwern has an Aunt Sally
2008-02-05 20:44 < Mike_H> not Sally. Sallie.
2008-02-05 20:45 < TheWeasel> LaSalliye
2008-02-05 20:45 < Mike_H> LaTracie
2008-02-05 20:45 < TheWeasel> I'm sure some people call their kid LaSalle
2008-02-05 20:45 < justlee> Well we have Donald Lee and Donald Wayne too
2008-02-05 20:45 < Mike_H> justlee: My mother is friends with Jimmy Lee and his wife Marsha (no second name)
2008-02-05 20:45 < TheWeasel> there's no real border to first name evilness
2008-02-05 20:45 < justlee> and Rolowayne
2008-02-05 20:45 < TheWeasel> McCain wins DE
2008-02-05 20:45 < NotAYert> McCain wins DE
2008-02-05 20:45 < NotAYert> omg.
2008-02-05 20:46 < Mike_H> Rolowayne sounds like a character from Good Times
2008-02-05 20:46 * TheWeasel only knows hockey goalie Dwayne Roloson
2008-02-05 20:46 < justlee> Rolowayn Dale Wycoff III
2008-02-05 20:46 < justlee> son of Holly and Obeta
2008-02-05 20:46 < gwern> '{{quotation|I want to build a clock that ticks once a year. The century hand advances once every one hundred years, and the cuckoo comes out on the millennium. I want the cuckoo to come out every millennium for the next 10,000 years. If I hurry I should finish the clock in time to see the cuckoo come out for the first time.|Danny Hillis}}' <-- sorry Danny. you were too slow
2008-02-05 20:46 < TheWeasel> Smellaware
2008-02-05 20:46 < Mike_H> justlee: I do love Obeta. I think in my mom's generation they stopped giving out those really Southern names
2008-02-05 20:47 < Mike_H> her friends are named Tina, Edie, and Viola
2008-02-05 20:47 < Mike_H> the last one pronounced VAH-oh-luh, like a true Southunuh
2008-02-05 20:47 < justlee> Lagatha is younger than my mom
2008-02-05 20:47 < justlee> laGATHuh
2008-02-05 20:47 < TheWeasel> My hilarious Oscar-Wilde-Noel-Coward innuendos were all razed.
2008-02-05 20:47 < TheWeasel> Not really.
2008-02-05 20:48 < Mike_H> Sometimes, growing up in the South
2008-02-05 20:48 < Mike_H> I describe my experiences growing up gay like Suddenly, Last Summer
2008-02-05 20:48 < Mike_H> except I didn't die at the hands of a mob
2008-02-05 20:48 < Mike_H> and nobody was lobotomized.
2008-02-05 20:48 < TheWeasel> That would have been fierce though.
2008-02-05 20:48 < ikon> any who knows how can i subscribe to a RSS of wikipedia?
2008-02-05 20:49 < TheWeasel> Oh, that's Howard Stern.
2008-02-05 20:49 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Fierce like Bratz dolls!
2008-02-05 20:49 < TheWeasel> I thought it was Col. Gaddhafi
2008-02-05 20:49 < Mike_H> *growing up gay in the South
2008-02-05 20:49 < justlee> i never told the southern part of my family I was bi, I haven't told them I am not christian either
2008-02-05 20:49 < Mike_H> justlee: In the South, you know as well as I do that religion is so important
2008-02-05 20:49 < Mike_H> one of my friends told her mother she was atheist, and her mom said
2008-02-05 20:50 < Mike_H> "I would rather have you tell me that you are pregnant or a lesbian"
2008-02-05 20:50 < justlee> The fun thing about not coming out is that Kelly and I get to sleep together at the family house
2008-02-05 20:50 < justlee> because women sleeping together is innocent
2008-02-05 20:50 < gwern> hawt
2008-02-05 20:51 < The359> Hooray for the internet
2008-02-05 20:51 < Mike_H> justlee: I don't mean to be mean or anything, but Kelly can pass in front of your parents?
2008-02-05 20:51 * The359 found a bootleg of a concert I attended in Central Park NYC in September
2008-02-05 20:51 < Mike_H> They don't think she looks male or anything?
2008-02-05 20:51 < justlee> no
2008-02-05 20:51 < justlee> "My aren't you a tall one!
2008-02-05 20:51 < Mike_H> haha
2008-02-05 20:52 < Mike_H> NotACow: how tall are you?
2008-02-05 20:52 < justlee> a day younger than me
2008-02-05 20:52 < justlee> she is 5'11"
2008-02-05 20:52 < The359> So pretend twincest?
2008-02-05 20:52 < gwern> Gracenotes: you got a section on your rfa in the signpost's year roundup. you should feel flattered?
2008-02-05 20:52 < gwern> hawt
2008-02-05 20:52 < justlee> we do get accused of being sisters
2008-02-05 20:53 * gwern shakes head. still can't believe BJAODN got deleted
2008-02-05 20:53 < The359> BELIEVE IT
2008-02-05 20:53 < The359> ...or not!
2008-02-05 20:53 < Gracenotes> gwern: >.>
2008-02-05 20:54 < Mike_H> justlee: you have a PM
2008-02-05 20:54 < TheWeasel> Wow, they do take frequent commercial breaks.
2008-02-05 20:54 < gwern> '2 Tensions in journalistic use of Wikipedia explored' <-- y'know,. I would swear I read a Science fiction trivia list in _Discover_ magazine which cribbed from our articles on [[Snow Crash]] and [[Gene Wolfe]]
2008-02-05 20:54 < gwern> 'With bureaucrats divided, and unable to determine whether consensus had been met, a re-run was proposed; however, Gracenotes declined. Gracenotes has not elected to seek adminship since the June RFA.'
2008-02-05 20:55 < The359> Who killed who in the political deathmatch?
2008-02-05 20:55 < gwern> 'Incidentally, a passing tidbit from another piece in this AJR issue may also be of interest, particularly for those who follow the Encyclopædia Britannica's responses to Wikipedia. In it Thomas Kunkel relates an anecdote from Vartan Gregorian, former president of Brown University and now head of the Carnegie Corporation of New York. Gregorian, in the course of doing consulting work for Britannica, indicated that its editors were considering ...
2008-02-05 20:55 < gwern> ... adopting Wikipedia-like techniques, but he advised against it.'
2008-02-05 20:56 < gwern> ''Lolita' bed set for girls withdrawn - Woolworths employees in Britain learn about Lolita from Wikipedia, after unwittingly giving a girls' bed set that name.' <-- yeah, I remember mentioning that here
2008-02-05 20:56 < NotACow> haha
2008-02-05 20:56 < The359> 'tards
2008-02-05 20:56 < NotACow> the lolita bed
2008-02-05 20:56 < Gracenotes> the first Google result for "Lolita" is our article... go figure.
2008-02-05 20:56 < The359> the question is, how many males bought it
2008-02-05 20:57 < Gracenotes> maybe they should have named it "Dolores", then maybe people wouldn't have caught the reference
2008-02-05 20:57 < NotACow> The359: and has HM Government requested a list of everyone who bought one in order to initiate child abuse investigations?
2008-02-05 20:57 < TheWeasel> The359: Their communications are all watched now.
2008-02-05 20:57 < TheWeasel> Heh, you beat me to it.
2008-02-05 20:58 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: My aunt is named Dolores
2008-02-05 20:58 < Mike_H> and she ain't no Lolita
2008-02-05 20:58 < Mike_H> she wasn't even back when her roses were in bloom
2008-02-05 20:58 < gwern> Gracenotes: noone would buy a bed named Dolores. Too dolorous
2008-02-05 20:58 * The359 has a racecar bed
2008-02-05 20:59 < La--Bomba> i have thai prositutes on my bed
2008-02-05 20:59 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: That is an awesome euphemism.
2008-02-05 20:59 < Gracenotes> gwern: Nabokov choosing that name wasn't coincidental...
2008-02-05 20:59 < NotAYert> 1 minute until CNN projects a lot more.
2008-02-05 20:59 < Gracenotes> ooh, you're right, almost 9:00
2008-02-05 20:59 * The359 projects NotAYert into space
2008-02-05 20:59 * NotAYert waits for the cool sound.
2008-02-05 20:59 < gwern> 'IRC: A case involving an alleged personal attack by Tony Sidaway on Bishonen on #wikipedia-en-admins, which led to an edit war on WP:WEA, involving page protection and unprotection by David Gerard, Geogre and others, and a block of Giano II, which was quickly undone. Voting on remedies relating to Giano is split (although an editing restriction remedy is at 3-1), but a remedy subjecting Tony Sidaway to an editing restriction for one year has the ...
2008-02-05 20:59 < gwern> ... support of three arbitrators, and a proposal stating that the committee will determine "Policy and procedure changes regarding Wikipedia IRC channels" separately to the case. If closed, all parties would be "strongly cautioned to pursue disputes in a civil manner designed to contribute to resolution and to cause minimal disruption".' <-- I completely missed that
2008-02-05 21:00 * TheWeasel projects his problems on a scapegoat
2008-02-05 21:00 < Gracenotes> oh noes, drahmas
2008-02-05 21:00 < NotAYert> omg
2008-02-05 21:00 < NotAYert> projects
2008-02-05 21:00 < gwern> now why would Giano be sanctioned? the summary doesn't mention him doing anything
2008-02-05 21:00 < NotAYert> CLINTON WINS NY
2008-02-05 21:00 < Gracenotes> :O
2008-02-05 21:00 < Gracenotes> really
2008-02-05 21:00 < Quiznos> it's a democrat stronghold
2008-02-05 21:00 < Gracenotes> that's where I live >.>
2008-02-05 21:00 < NotACow> gwern: the arbcom is full of bees.
2008-02-05 21:00 < arpa> drama llama?
2008-02-05 21:01 * Gracenotes spits at arpa
2008-02-05 21:01 < TheWeasel> Yea, many Democratic primary voters in New York are Democrats.
2008-02-05 21:01 < gwern> CUIDADA LLAMA!
2008-02-05 21:01 < Gracenotes> lol @ CNN server load
2008-02-05 21:01 < The359> There's a NY still?
2008-02-05 21:01 < gwern> get in mah belly
2008-02-05 21:01 < NotACow> TheWeasel: that bodes well for hillary, then
2008-02-05 21:01 < TheWeasel> DEATH TO SPITBALLS
2008-02-05 21:01 < NotACow> TheWeasel: obama does better with independents than with democrats.
2008-02-05 21:01 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-05 21:01 < NotAYert> no more projections >_>
2008-02-05 21:02 < TheWeasel> New York would vote for Mr. Ed the Talking Horse if he filed as a Democrat anyway.
2008-02-05 21:02 < Gracenotes> hehe
2008-02-05 21:02 * NotAYert huggles hillary
2008-02-05 21:02 < Gracenotes> well, Clinton still is senator here...
2008-02-05 21:02 < gwern> 'Perhaps it's time to be a little more concrete and specific about what John calls Giano's "grievance". Tony Sidaway attacked me in the en-admins channel last week, calling me a "bastard bitch from hell" and an "arsehole". I will share the logs for this incident with any admin on request. (I've just noticed that Geogre mentions Tony's insults above, but I think I should post them here anyway, under my own hand. They're not very visible in the midst ...
2008-02-05 21:02 < Quiznos> Gracenotes, wich county?
2008-02-05 21:02 < gwern> ... of Geogre's long statement.) Bishonen | talk 10:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC).'
2008-02-05 21:02 < NotAYert> douche?
2008-02-05 21:02 < The359> Missouri is officially demoted to being a full southern state
2008-02-05 21:02 < The359> They voted Huckabee
2008-02-05 21:02 < Gracenotes> Quiznos: New York, United States
2008-02-05 21:02 < NotACow> BUCKABEE!
2008-02-05 21:03 < gwern> 'My revert was mostly based on that I though it was wrong to remove a statement made by Jimbo in an ongoing dispute, though due to a crappy computer I was using at that moment, the edit summary was lost and something fishy happened (don't trust tabletop computers with vista on them).' <-- amen
2008-02-05 21:03 < Gracenotes> Messedrocker: zomgz politics
2008-02-05 21:03 < TheWeasel> Romney is looking horribly.
2008-02-05 21:03 < Quiznos> Gracenotes, i am in Clinton County, NY
2008-02-05 21:03 < arpa> I like tampons
2008-02-05 21:03 < arpa> espically when they're in JohnReVE'S ASS
2008-02-05 21:03 < Gracenotes> Quiznos: oh, you said County, not Country. >.>
2008-02-05 21:03 * Gracenotes headdesks
2008-02-05 21:03 < gwern> 'I wish again to apologise fully and without reservation to all parties who believe that I have ever called any of them a bad name. In particular, for my badly handled response to Bishonen's attack on me on IRC the other day. We need to put these by now very ancient grievances behind us and move on. It is now nearly 2008, not 2006. And yes, please be aware that there are faked logs around (I've had one quoted to me for verification). --Tony Sidaway ...
2008-02-05 21:03 < gwern> ... 14:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)' <-- that's a, uh, pretty crappy state,emt tony
2008-02-05 21:03 < Gracenotes> Dutchess County
2008-02-05 21:03 < NotACow> hey
2008-02-05 21:04 < NotACow> paul is beating giuliani in new york!
2008-02-05 21:04 < TheWeasel> New York-Manhattan, New York County, New York, United States
2008-02-05 21:04 < Quiznos> I'm in Champlain, NY
2008-02-05 21:04 < NotACow> mccain 6, paul 1, giuliani 0
2008-02-05 21:04 < The359> Mike Grovel, meanwhile, is kicking ass
2008-02-05 21:04 < The359> Oh, wait...
2008-02-05 21:04 < The359> Garvel
2008-02-05 21:04 < The359> Gravel
2008-02-05 21:04 < gwern> '#
2008-02-05 21:04 < The359> fuck it
2008-02-05 21:04 < gwern> # A fitting welcome for the new arbs. Accept. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)' <-- lolz
2008-02-05 21:04 * TheWeasel grovels at the feet of The359
2008-02-05 21:04 < NotACow> gwern: wikipedia is fucked
2008-02-05 21:05 < TheWeasel> Yay for nuanced diagnosis.
2008-02-05 21:05 * The359 wonders at the names entering the room
2008-02-05 21:06 < NotAYert> ew
2008-02-05 21:06 < TheWeasel> Obama carries Derrawale
2008-02-05 21:06 < NotAYert> obama wins de
2008-02-05 21:07 < TheWeasel> Err
2008-02-05 21:07 < TheWeasel> Waledare
2008-02-05 21:07 < The359> Delaware must be heavy
2008-02-05 21:07 < TheWeasel> Lavared
2008-02-05 21:07 < Mark_Ryan> "CNN projects Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic primary race in New York" -- wasn't that always going to happen?
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 < NotAYert> omg
2008-02-05 21:07 * Kanoue[DoDo] hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * Douce25 hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * La--Bomba hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * d|skdru|d hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * {SoniA} hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 * _StaRLighT_ hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:07 < The359> weak
2008-02-05 21:08 < gwern> don't worry Gracenotes, you'll be loved
2008-02-05 21:08 < The359> weak
2008-02-05 21:08 * gwern hugs Gracenotes
2008-02-05 21:08 < NotAYert> omg.
2008-02-05 21:08 < Mark_Ryan> anyway, as I was saying... "CNN projects Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic primary race in New York" -- wasn't that always going to happen?
2008-02-05 21:08 < Snowolf> yes
2008-02-05 21:09 < ikon> i need some help
2008-02-05 21:09 * TheWeasel thinks Massachusetts will be the only state Romney wins.
2008-02-05 21:09 < Mark_Ryan> what state is 'MO'?
2008-02-05 21:09 < The359> Missouri
2008-02-05 21:09 < TheWeasel> Missouri
2008-02-05 21:09 < Gracenotes> missouri
2008-02-05 21:09 < NotAYert> Missouri
2008-02-05 21:09 < Mark_Ryan> ah
2008-02-05 21:09 < NotAYert> omg
2008-02-05 21:10 < TheWeasel> pronounced "M'sohr"
2008-02-05 21:10 < Gracenotes> I would have taken less time if I didn't have to load the script... >.> anyway...
2008-02-05 21:10 < TheWeasel> "M'zohr", rather
2008-02-05 21:10 * NotAYert hugs Gracenotes.
2008-02-05 21:11 * Gracenotes huggles NotAYert
2008-02-05 21:11 < Mark_Ryan> illinois and georgia are big states for obama to win
2008-02-05 21:11 < Gracenotes> but your hug is superfluous, NotAYert, wouldn't you agree?
2008-02-05 21:12 < NotAYert> Gracenotes: Lol.
2008-02-05 21:12 < TheWeasel> Illinois was a given though
2008-02-05 21:12 < TheWeasel> like Arkansas and New York for Hillary
2008-02-05 21:12 < ikon> could stay here?
2008-02-05 21:12 < Mark_Ryan> looks like Obama has won Minnesota
2008-02-05 21:12 < TheWeasel> Nice
2008-02-05 21:13 < Mark_Ryan> based upon the 0% reporting
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> But I expected those
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> MN and WI
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> if thats up at all
2008-02-05 21:13 < Mark_Ryan> what about Kansas?
2008-02-05 21:13 < NotAYert> CNN has not said anything about those.
2008-02-05 21:13 < kenlyric> can they really call it with 0% reporting?
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> More of a Hillary state
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> kenlyric: Exit polls
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> it's not part of the counting
2008-02-05 21:13 < Gracenotes> CNN's interface is not the most intuitive
2008-02-05 21:13 < Gracenotes> but it seems to be the most up-to-date
2008-02-05 21:13 < Mark_Ryan> Kansas over 70% to Obama, 12% reporting
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> Wow
2008-02-05 21:13 < TheWeasel> Odd
2008-02-05 21:14 < TheWeasel> I would have thought it was more like Oklahoma
2008-02-05 21:14 < NotAYert> if you get HD they are putting things on the side, apparently
2008-02-05 21:14 < Mark_Ryan> the thing is, though, it's all proportional, isn't it? so chances are they'll each win around the same number of delegates from Super Tuesday, unless California throws up a surprise
2008-02-05 21:15 < TheWeasel> not all
2008-02-05 21:15 < TheWeasel> the bigger ones are
2008-02-05 21:15 < TheWeasel> in various ways
2008-02-05 21:15 < TheWeasel> some smaller ones are at-large
2008-02-05 21:15 < Mark_Ryan> ah, fair enough
2008-02-05 21:15 < TheWeasel> CT is epic.
2008-02-05 21:15 < NotAYert> Clinton is leading in MA, even with all those obama endorsements.
2008-02-05 21:17 < TheWeasel> Wow, Huck beating McCain in MO
2008-02-05 21:17 < TheWeasel> Wouldn't've thought.
2008-02-05 21:17 < Snowolf> good :)
2008-02-05 21:17 * Mike_H NP: Guns n' Roses - Paradise City (1987)
2008-02-05 21:17 < Gracenotes> meh, Huck
2008-02-05 21:17 < Mark_Ryan> Obama's wife has had messy hair in every photo I've seen of her
2008-02-05 21:17 < TheWeasel> are their projections fully automated?
2008-02-05 21:18 < NotAYert> Mark_Ryan: She is not very good looking.
2008-02-05 21:18 < Mark_Ryan> TheWeasel: I hope not, otherwise it's a bit silly to be projecting victories after 0% counted
2008-02-05 21:18 < TheWeasel> "I would never vote for Obama, because he has a bad taste in chicks."
2008-02-05 21:18 < Mark_Ryan> http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7220000/newsid_7229500/7229523.stm?bw=nb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=2 - BBC World coverage
2008-02-05 21:19 < TheWeasel> Well, if 85% of the people told you they voted for candidate A, chances are that's a fairly good indicator.
2008-02-05 21:19 < Cyrius> alabama has swung around, 70% for Obama
2008-02-05 21:19 < Mark_Ryan> lol, Delaware 81% counted already
2008-02-05 21:20 < Cyrius> in other news, if Ron Paul can't win in Montana, he can't win anywhere
2008-02-05 21:20 < Mark_Ryan> Cyrius: see, that's the danger of making early predictions. the chance that the early results come from fringe polling booths that don't represent the median of society
2008-02-05 21:20 < TheWeasel> CNN is now ready to project
2008-02-05 21:20 < NotAYert> mccain
2008-02-05 21:20 < NotAYert> wins ny
2008-02-05 21:20 < TheWeasel> McCain wins NY.
2008-02-05 21:20 < TheWeasel> And it's zero to the Rommmmmmmney
2008-02-05 21:21 < Gracenotes> good...
2008-02-05 21:21 < Mark_Ryan> ah mccain, you've done it again...
2008-02-05 21:21 < TheWeasel> Paul doing well there.
2008-02-05 21:21 < Gracenotes> TheWeasel: lol, you should see all the Ron Paul posters up around Poughkeepsie
2008-02-05 21:21 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-05 21:21 < TheWeasel> Wow, Romney is doing terribly
2008-02-05 21:21 < Mark_Ryan> is Ron Paul the porn star?
2008-02-05 21:21 < NotAYert> :O
2008-02-05 21:21 < TheWeasel> That's Ron Jeremy.
2008-02-05 21:22 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-02-05 21:22 < Mark_Ryan> oh, right
2008-02-05 21:22 < Mark_Ryan> same sort of thing
2008-02-05 21:22 < Mark_Ryan> porn, politics
2008-02-05 21:22 < Mark_Ryan> it's all cigars and interns
2008-02-05 21:22 < TheWeasel> You get screwed easily and your career tends to be short.
2008-02-05 21:22 < Mark_Ryan> that too :)
2008-02-05 21:23 < Gracenotes> communicable diseases, too
2008-02-05 21:23 < Gracenotes> ... or have I just broken the analogy?
2008-02-05 21:23 < TheWeasel> That is a sweeeeeeeeep
2008-02-05 21:23 < TheWeasel> 52%
2008-02-05 21:24 < Mark_Ryan> does that McCain guy have any relation to [[McCain Foods Limited]]?
2008-02-05 21:24 < TheWeasel> My mom asked me that exact same question today.
2008-02-05 21:24 < TheWeasel> "is that the French fries guy?"
2008-02-05 21:24 < Gracenotes> I wouldn't be too certain
2008-02-05 21:25 < Gracenotes> McCain is the #1393 most popular surname in the US
2008-02-05 21:25 < Mark_Ryan> "NEW YORK (CNN) – The Arkansas and Tennessee secretaries of state were forced to close some polling places earlier than expected Tuesday after several destructive tornadoes tracked through both states." -- it's a CONSPIRACY
2008-02-05 21:25 < TheWeasel> Obama will win California.
2008-02-05 21:25 < Mark_Ryan> Gracenotes: where does Ryan stand?
2008-02-05 21:25 < NotAYert> Obama will loose California.
2008-02-05 21:26 < Mark_Ryan> Obama will loosen California.
2008-02-05 21:26 < TheWeasel> Hillary is considered evil enough to send tornados to AR and TN.
2008-02-05 21:26 < NotAYert> Correct
2008-02-05 21:26 < TheWeasel> Obama will loosen California's screws.
2008-02-05 21:26 * NotAYert waits for the CNN predictions at 9:30
2008-02-05 21:27 < Messedrocker> Obama will make California loose if you know what I mean
2008-02-05 21:27 < Mark_Ryan> Messedrocker: you mean it isn't already?
2008-02-05 21:27 < TheWeasel> Hillaryphobia (and I do mean phobia) has taken on odd dimensions.
2008-02-05 21:27 < Messedrocker> You know what they say about African-American gentlemen.
2008-02-05 21:27 < SWATJester> Messedrocker Clinton won't make anyone loose by that logic ;)
2008-02-05 21:27 < Mark_Ryan> this brings me back to what I was saying about cigars...
2008-02-05 21:28 < Mark_Ryan> cigars are bad for your health. that is all.
2008-02-05 21:28 < TheWeasel> And political career.
2008-02-05 21:29 < gwern> Messedrocker: african-american gentlemen have enormous genitals?
2008-02-05 21:29 < Messedrocker> precisely, mister gwern
2008-02-05 21:29 < TheWeasel> Alobama!
2008-02-05 21:30 < Mark_Ryan> Messedrocker: I think that is a stereotype that black men are keen to dispel.
2008-02-05 21:30 < TheWeasel> Hillary can't send any more tornadoes to Huntsville
2008-02-05 21:30 < Messedrocker> What, so Senator Obama will say "No! I have small genitals!" ?
2008-02-05 21:31 < Mark_Ryan> Messedrocker: he might. if the conversation went in that direction.
2008-02-05 21:31 < TheWeasel> Talk about big government.
2008-02-05 21:32 < TheWeasel> (Democrats being the party of big government)
2008-02-05 21:33 < TheWeasel> Republican caucuses delayed.
2008-02-05 21:33 < Gracenotes> omg lulz >.>
2008-02-05 21:33 < TheWeasel> in Tennessee
2008-02-05 21:33 < SWATJester> I think Obama, Clinton, Gravel, Paul, Huckabee, and McCain should challenge each other to a dance off for the presidency.
2008-02-05 21:33 < Messedrocker> yeah
2008-02-05 21:33 < Messedrocker> whoever gets the top score in DDR
2008-02-05 21:33 < Mark_Ryan> the CNN election tracker page says for California "LAST POLLS CLOSE 1:00 P.M." -- is that a case of nifty javascript detecting my time zone and adjusting it for me automatically?
2008-02-05 21:34 < SWATJester> probably. I believe it closes around 12:30am EST or so
2008-02-05 21:34 < Mark_Ryan> 1 PM my time = 11PM US eastern time
2008-02-05 21:34 < SWATJester> Hmm. Different sites are saying different things then
2008-02-05 21:34 < Gracenotes> Mark_Ryan: Arkansas, 12:30 am, EST
2008-02-05 21:35 < Gracenotes> for both R and D
2008-02-05 21:35 < Mark_Ryan> after midnight? that's a late closing of the polls
2008-02-05 21:35 < quanticle|away> SwatJester: If there's a tie, the tiebreaker should be Guitar Hero.
2008-02-05 21:35 < Not_the_NSA> Mark_Ryan: no....
2008-02-05 21:35 < Not_the_NSA> Mark_Ryan: out west
2008-02-05 21:35 < TheWeasel> CNN just politely announced that Romney is hopeless.
2008-02-05 21:35 < Mark_Ryan> Not_the_NSA: even so
2008-02-05 21:35 < NotACow> Mark_Ryan: i would assume
2008-02-05 21:35 < Not_the_NSA> Mark_Ryan: around 10 local time there
2008-02-05 21:35 < Gracenotes> heh
2008-02-05 21:35 * TheWeasel is off to play internet Mornington Crescent
2008-02-05 21:35 < NotAYert> Romney freaks me out.
2008-02-05 21:35 < SWATJester> quanticle: Fire and the Flames on hardest difficulty.
2008-02-05 21:35 < SWATJester> winner gets the election
2008-02-05 21:36 < NotACow> Mark_Ryan: california keeps polls open late.
2008-02-05 21:36 < Mark_Ryan> our polls shut at 6pm on the dot, but they're always on Saturdays so it stands to reason
2008-02-05 21:36 * Not_the_NSA attacks Gracenotes with the weather section of Physical Setting: Earth Science