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2008-02-04 17:16 < Sfan00> Then we can't offend anyone
2008-02-04 17:16 < Sfan00> Shame about loosing the pictures of seafood though :(
2008-02-04 17:16 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-02-04 17:16 < TheWeasel> Our job is not to avoid offense to the easily offended.
2008-02-04 17:16 < cimon> mavhc: was more tricky even when they had a muslim in space...
2008-02-04 17:16 < Demi> TheWeasel - i don't hate all the cartoons, i think a couple of them were funny
2008-02-04 17:16 < mavhc> just change every religious article to read "jesus is magic"
2008-02-04 17:17 < Sfan00> mavhc: Conservapedia?
2008-02-04 17:17 < brown_cat_nap> IMHO, we should censor ourselves to remove all liability then, we should sell Wikipedia to DOW Chemicals
2008-02-04 17:17 < TheWeasel> They weren't even exaggerating reality, they were just gratuitous trollery.
2008-02-04 17:17 < TheWeasel> their single purpose was to offend, which they did
2008-02-04 17:18 < TheWeasel> and then people were all upset and never saw it coming
2008-02-04 17:18 < cimon> Demi: I am just amite amused by the palpable hypocrisy by countries which within 150 years have successfully prosecuted against blasphemy against some variant of an abrahamic deity.
2008-02-04 17:18 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:18 < Sfan00> CImon: wasn't the uK consderign scrapping that law?
2008-02-04 17:18 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:18 * The359 thinks every article should have a picture of Muhammed
2008-02-04 17:18 < Splunge> OOPS I MEAN HEY DEWDNUGGET SAQLIQQUR FAGAZZNUGG PORKNADZ!
2008-02-04 17:18 < brown_cat_nap> O_o
2008-02-04 17:18 * flemenko poops too
2008-02-04 17:18 < mavhc> islam is not a violent religion, and anyone who says otherwise gets a riot
2008-02-04 17:18 < Demi> well, people use humor to cause others to think about things. if the idea of a bomb in muhammad's turban is offensive, maybe we should think about our sympathies with religious partisans and terrorists
2008-02-04 17:19 * flemenko poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * seniora_49 poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * deaglewar poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * flemenko poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * seniora_49 poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * deaglewar poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * flemenko poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * seniora_49 poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * deaglewar poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * flemenko poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * seniora_49 poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * deaglewar poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * flemenko poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * seniora_49 poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * TrIpLu_xXx_ poops
2008-02-04 17:19 * deaglewar poops
2008-02-04 17:19 < Mbimmler> give us a break, yeah?
2008-02-04 17:19 < The359> Needs more +m
2008-02-04 17:20 < cimon> Sfan00: Finland, which prosecuted and convicted Hannu Salama as recently as the 1960's is very poorly positioned to champion freedom to mock religion.
2008-02-04 17:20 < DISPUS_> will someone clean up this mess?
2008-02-04 17:20 * TheWeasel has no sympathies with terrorists, but I like my cartoons to at least make a try at being based in reality
2008-02-04 17:20 < The359> Cartoons based on reality?
2008-02-04 17:20 < The359> Do you not read Garfield then?
2008-02-04 17:20 < DaBoXaway> Pilotguy, i <3 you
2008-02-04 17:21 < cimon> Though has to be said there are no longer laws against blasphemy as such...
2008-02-04 17:21 < Demi> TheWeasel - i think courtesy tells us to try not to surprise people with things that might bother them, but beyond that i don't think we have any special obligation not to blaspheme or use bad words or whatever
2008-02-04 17:21 < TheWeasel> Caricature.
2008-02-04 17:21 < TheWeasel> No, I was just commenting on the surprise of everyone.
2008-02-04 17:21 < Demi> TheWeasel - part of the point of the cartoon (and some of them were just drawings, no humor or offensiveness) was getting people to think about the result
2008-02-04 17:21 * myx poops
2008-02-04 17:21 < cimon> the law is superficially a guard against "disruption of religious peace"
2008-02-04 17:22 < TheWeasel> yea, but it's like commenting on Bush's politics on Israel by displaying him with a goat-type beard and a big star of David
2008-02-04 17:22 < TheWeasel> it's just non sequitur
2008-02-04 17:22 < cimon> which just in reallity makes it more open ended...
2008-02-04 17:22 < Demi> TheWeasel - so your main problem with them is that they are bad cartoons? :)
2008-02-04 17:23 * DaBoXaway poops
2008-02-04 17:23 < TheWeasel> My main problem is that they're an exaggeration of which the basis is inexistant.
2008-02-04 17:23 < cimon> TheWeasel: which would be ironic considering Bush Seniors old henchman, James Baker...
2008-02-04 17:24 < TheWeasel> It's a random example.
2008-02-04 17:24 < TheWeasel> I've seen things like that in Arab newspapers
2008-02-04 17:24 * FEELME39m poops
2008-02-04 17:24 < The359> Pree-ty lame, Milhouse
2008-02-04 17:24 < Demi> TheWeasel - how do you feel about "Who Would Jesus Bomb?"
2008-02-04 17:25 < TheWeasel> Well, that is pro-Jesus.
2008-02-04 17:25 < mavhc> ski iraq
2008-02-04 17:25 < The359> Abortion clinics
2008-02-04 17:25 < The359> Obviously
2008-02-04 17:25 < quanticle> Demi: I feel that Jesus would bomb Rome.
2008-02-04 17:25 * Alina11 poops
2008-02-04 17:25 * YACObOB poops
2008-02-04 17:25 < quanticle> Demi: The headquarters of the empire that crucified him would make a tempting target
2008-02-04 17:25 < cimon> TheWeasel: which reminds me, the Red Lozenge or Red Square, or what ever it is called, is pretty lame... as the symbol of the hebrew equivalent of the Red Cross.
2008-02-04 17:26 < quanticle> cimon: Red Lozenge? Is that like a candy or something?
2008-02-04 17:26 < TheWeasel> hah yea
2008-02-04 17:26 < TheWeasel> Red Diamond I think?
2008-02-04 17:26 < Sfan00> And isn't the Israeli Red Cross nominaly part of the Isralei army
2008-02-04 17:26 < Sfan00> ?
2008-02-04 17:26 < Demi> well, i take it as a satire on What Would Jesus Do, pointing out the author's belief that violence (in the form of the religious overtones that the war in Iraq/on terrorism takes--a "crusade" and so forth; or in the form of bombing clinics; etc.) is not Christ-like and people who profess to follow Jesus and do violence are hypocrites.
2008-02-04 17:26 < Sfan00> The exact same Isralei army that's currently blockading Gaza?
2008-02-04 17:26 < Sfan00> (Hardly something the Red Cross should be supporting)
2008-02-04 17:27 < TheWeasel> well, there are those it fits.
2008-02-04 17:27 < geniice> slight problem with the mohamed images
2008-02-04 17:27 < TheWeasel> the cartoon would have to limit itself to those
2008-02-04 17:27 < geniice> it appears they have been edited
2008-02-04 17:27 < Demi> quanticle - Jesus would probably bomb Rome, it seems likeliest to me that if there was a historical Jesus, he was probably an agitator and Jewish separatist
2008-02-04 17:27 < cimon> TheWeasel: well, the lameness is compounded by it playing to stereotypes of Dutch diamond merchants with dreadlocks and black robes and hats...
2008-02-04 17:27 < TheWeasel> like the "we should invade their countries, kill their politicians, and convert them to Christianity" people.
2008-02-04 17:27 < quanticle> Sfan00: I don't think so. I think its more that army medical units also use the red cross symbol.
2008-02-04 17:28 < geniice> http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/lgf-showcomment.php?n=319&c=4825120
2008-02-04 17:29 < Demi> TheWeasel - yes, the problem with satire, funny and otherwise is that there are people who actually take it seriously. I'm reminded of the movie The Accused. Jodie Foster (whose character is raped--the point of the movie is more or less that rape is an awful crime made more awful by the apathy of onlookers and law enforcement) tells a story of seeing the movie in audiences where people actually cheered during the rape scene. Or look at the people who think S
2008-02-04 17:29 < TheWeasel> LGF is an awesomely violence-soaked venue.
2008-02-04 17:29 < Sfan00> quanticle: Unique among civilian emergency medical services in Israel due to its role as national aid society according to the Geneva Conventions, MDA can become an auxiliary arm of the Israel Defense Forces during times of war.
2008-02-04 17:29 < Sfan00> From the article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magen_David_Adom
2008-02-04 17:30 < TheWeasel> hm
2008-02-04 17:30 < cimon> interesting point about the cross pattee... It looks quite a bit like a square, if you squint...
2008-02-04 17:30 < TheWeasel> to me, for satire to hit home is that its basis is accurate.
2008-02-04 17:30 < TheWeasel> from there it can extrapolate and exaggerate
2008-02-04 17:30 < TheWeasel> and it's just not the case here
2008-02-04 17:30 < quanticle> Sfan00: Not to mention that "Red Star of David" isn't nearly as snappy as "Red Cross" or "
2008-02-04 17:30 < quanticle> Red Crescent"
2008-02-04 17:31 < cimon> Red Magen
2008-02-04 17:31 < Demi> TheWeasel - sure. have you seen this? http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1 <- it was also linked last week
2008-02-04 17:31 < TheWeasel> what is that?
2008-02-04 17:31 < TheWeasel> oh
2008-02-04 17:32 < TheWeasel> whoa
2008-02-04 17:32 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-04 17:32 * cimon wisely does not make a joke about what magen means in swedish...
2008-02-04 17:32 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-02-04 17:32 < TheWeasel> Pain in the magen of David
2008-02-04 17:33 < Mbimmler> keep your fingers crossed...
2008-02-04 17:33 < geniice> quanticle more that the hindus wanted a red Swastika
2008-02-04 17:34 < quanticle> geniice: Heh.
2008-02-04 17:34 * quanticle is a Hindu
2008-02-04 17:34 * quanticle could see some of the more radical elements of his religion demanding that
2008-02-04 17:34 < Demi> "I believe that pornagraphy, while certainly not the cause of serial murder, lays down the foundation that can eventually justify in one's mind sick things that can include such things. Just my opinion. Most will now post stats that seem to suggest otherwise, But I think the stats are skewed wrongly on this subject. " <- yes, i hate it when the stats are skewed like that
2008-02-04 17:34 < cimon> geniice: not a fylfot?
2008-02-04 17:34 < TheWeasel> I think the FSTDT quotes could be made up by people making fun of communities
2008-02-04 17:34 < Demi> TheWeasel - i imagine it's a mix
2008-02-04 17:34 < TheWeasel> I mean, lefties who post to those forums
2008-02-04 17:34 < pengo> Demi: those quotes have to be from trolls
2008-02-04 17:34 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-02-04 17:35 < geniice> quanticle in addition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Swastika
2008-02-04 17:35 < quanticle> Demi: Does he also hate it that the video game violence numbers are also skewed against him?
2008-02-04 17:35 < Demi> pengo - i'm positive they are not all from trolls, and i'm positive that some of them are
2008-02-04 17:35 < cimon> I wonder if there is a Buddhist arm of the Red Cross...
2008-02-04 17:35 < Demi> if you don't think fundamentalists will say some of these things, you haven't talked to any of them for very long
2008-02-04 17:35 < geniice> quanticle but see the end of the article
2008-02-04 17:35 < geniice> cimon red wheel
2008-02-04 17:35 < Demi> quanticle - probably
2008-02-04 17:36 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblems_of_the_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#Other_proposed_symbols
2008-02-04 17:36 < Demi> quanticle - the hotel i usually stay it is run by an indian couple, and they live in a room that's just off the office--that door is adorned on the floor and around the jamb with a large number of swastikas
2008-02-04 17:36 < TheWeasel> Brb
2008-02-04 17:36 < Demi> i wonder if they'll take any guff over it
2008-02-04 17:36 < cimon> geniice: well, calling for help from the red wheel sounds...
2008-02-04 17:37 < geniice> less complex than "Sapa Unalom Daeng "
2008-02-04 17:37 < TheWeasel> Heh, my mom saw swastika-adorned matchboxes in India and asked me whether she'd get arrested for importing one into Germany
2008-02-04 17:37 < pengo> Demi: yeah, you're right
2008-02-04 17:37 < TheWeasel> (orange swastikas on a yellow background"
2008-02-04 17:38 < TheWeasel> with rounded edges=
2008-02-04 17:38 < pengo> TheWeasel: clockwise or ccw?
2008-02-04 17:38 < TheWeasel> both I think
2008-02-04 17:39 < cimon> TheWeasel: do they allow matches on planes?
2008-02-04 17:39 < geniice> sigh
2008-02-04 17:39 < geniice> http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=684643&highlight=wikipedia
2008-02-04 17:39 < quanticle> Demi: Heh. Where is this hotel?
2008-02-04 17:39 < TheWeasel> they did back at the time I'm talking about
2008-02-04 17:39 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-02-04 17:39 < The359> I'm sure they allow them in checked in luggage, cimon
2008-02-04 17:40 < quanticle> Well, you could try leaving a book of matches in your pocket, along with a pack of cigarettes and walking through the metal detector without declaring them.
2008-02-04 17:40 < cimon> TheWeasel: I am pretty sure Finnish air force decorations can be worn in Germany. And those usually have a swastica.
2008-02-04 17:40 < TheWeasel> I dunno.
2008-02-04 17:40 < quanticle> Matches don't have any metal in them...
2008-02-04 17:40 < The359> They stopped using the swastika, cimon
2008-02-04 17:40 < cimon> nope.
2008-02-04 17:40 < Demi> cimon - current finnish uniforms?
2008-02-04 17:40 < cimon> still there
2008-02-04 17:40 < Demi> picture?
2008-02-04 17:41 < cimon> plenty on wikipedia...
2008-02-04 17:41 < The359> The old roundel on Finnish Air Force's air planes used from 1918 to 1945.
2008-02-04 17:41 < TheWeasel> Things that "look so similar to Nazi symbols as to be easy to be confused with them"
2008-02-04 17:41 < TheWeasel> are banned
2008-02-04 17:41 < cimon> what happened to the swasticas on the decorations such as medals, is the swastica was stylized a bit.
2008-02-04 17:41 < Leslie_burgerkin> i wonder if wikipedia is banned from here.
2008-02-04 17:41 < Leslie_burgerkin> err, i mean, i wonder if HERE is banned FROM wikipedia.
2008-02-04 17:42 < cimon> the spokes are longer and the flailing bits at the end of the four spokes are shorter...
2008-02-04 17:42 < TheWeasel> I have no idea
2008-02-04 17:42 < Sfan00> Lelsie:?
2008-02-04 17:42 < TheWeasel> people tend to avoid them here
2008-02-04 17:42 < Sfan00> Leslie:?
2008-02-04 17:42 < Sfan00> New job?
2008-02-04 17:42 < Demi> TheWeasel - how about the symbol for the lizard aliens from "V"?
2008-02-04 17:42 < TheWeasel> Oh, leave me alone already!
2008-02-04 17:42 < TheWeasel> o.o
2008-02-04 17:42 < Leslie_burgerkin> Sfan00 no, im on my lunch break...at burger king. and using the king's wifi.
2008-02-04 17:43 < Leslie_burgerkin> Sfan00 why on EARTH would i want to work here?
2008-02-04 17:43 < TheWeasel> yay for not being called Partyweasel
2008-02-04 17:43 < Leslie_burgerkin> partyweasel? wtf
2008-02-04 17:43 < quanticle> TheWeasel: The ban expired...
2008-02-04 17:43 < cimon> The359: It should be noted that the roundel was based on the arms of a noble family with nothing at all to do with nazism... Rosen-somethings...
2008-02-04 17:44 < TheWeasel> Oh.
2008-02-04 17:44 < quanticle> cimon: Rosen? Almost sounds Jewish.
2008-02-04 17:44 < Demi> TheWeasel - now you can be partyweasel to your heart's content!
2008-02-04 17:44 < The359> I know that cimon
2008-02-04 17:44 < The359> but I see no pictures of the emblem still in use after 1945
2008-02-04 17:45 < Leslie_burgerkin> Sfan00, whats up? im bored. obviously. :(
2008-02-04 17:45 < Sfan00> Whic City are you in?
2008-02-04 17:45 < Sfan00> I am sure youre city can't be as boring as that :)
2008-02-04 17:45 < Leslie_burgerkin> Sfan00 im in benton harbor!
2008-02-04 17:45 < Sfan00> :O
2008-02-04 17:45 < Sfan00> :(
2008-02-04 17:46 < Leslie_burgerkin> Sfan00 its less boring than where i actually work, but still very boring. also, i'm on lunch break, and have about 25 minutes until i have to clock back in :P
2008-02-04 17:46 < Sfan00> I have to go
2008-02-04 17:46 < cimon> quanticle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_von_Rosen
2008-02-04 17:47 < The359> the closest I can find is the use on these medals http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Grootkruis_van_het_Vrijheidskruis_met_Zwaarden.jpg
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> hello
2008-02-04 17:49 < carl-m> hello
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> whopps wrong channe; :P
2008-02-04 17:49 < Snowolf> hi CompwhizII
2008-02-04 17:49 < Snowolf> :)
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> meant for wikipedia-en
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> sorry
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> o hi
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> im going to en
2008-02-04 17:49 < CompwhizII> bye
2008-02-04 17:50 < CompwhizII> ahh why not :)
2008-02-04 17:50 < carl-m> welcome back
2008-02-04 17:50 < CompwhizII> thanks
2008-02-04 17:51 < Leslie_burgerkin> rofl, on the password slip for the wifi here, "CONNECT WITH THE KING!"
2008-02-04 17:51 < Leslie_burgerkin> rofl
2008-02-04 17:53 < CompwhizII> are you at burger king?
2008-02-04 17:53 < CompwhizII> that would be funny
2008-02-04 17:53 < cimon> The359: Here is one on the flag of the training academy of the finnish airforces, used until 2006...
2008-02-04 17:53 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rv1007_s11_lentosotakoulu.jpg
2008-02-04 17:53 < Leslie_burgerkin> CompwhizII yes....
2008-02-04 17:53 * Leslie_burgerkin points at her nickname
2008-02-04 17:53 < CompwhizII> rolf
2008-02-04 17:53 < CompwhizII> rofl
2008-02-04 17:53 < CompwhizII> o
2008-02-04 17:53 < CompwhizII> XD
2008-02-04 17:54 < Leslie_burgerkin> ebay item 330208338687
2008-02-04 17:54 < Leslie_burgerkin> :D
2008-02-04 17:54 < Leslie_burgerkin> i want it!
2008-02-04 17:55 < CompwhizII> link plz!
2008-02-04 17:55 < Leslie_burgerkin> ......i just gave you an ebay item number. its not hard to use.
2008-02-04 17:55 < Leslie_burgerkin> heres the BS spam url: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volvo-240-1980-Volvo-240-DL-Turbo-4spd-manual-w-overdrive_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ31877QQihZ014QQitemZ330208338687
2008-02-04 17:55 < Snowolf> :)
2008-02-04 17:56 < CompwhizII> has no engine :P
2008-02-04 17:57 * CompwhizII huggles
2008-02-04 17:58 < cimon> The359: Sorry, it is still the flag of thte Air Force Academy... only the name of the academy changed in 2006, not the flag...
2008-02-04 17:59 < Leslie_burgerkin> CompwhizII no shit. but the wheels on it are worth $400!
2008-02-04 17:59 < Leslie_burgerkin> its too far away from me though
2008-02-04 18:00 < Leslie_burgerkin> but....it has several things i want for my car...
2008-02-04 18:00 < Leslie_burgerkin> anyway, i gotta leave. bye
2008-02-04 18:00 < cimon> it used to be "Warfare-aviation Academy" and now is "Air Force Academy". can't have that nasty word "warfare" in there...
2008-02-04 18:00 < CompwhizII> bye
2008-02-04 18:05 < cimon> Hah, here is a silly question without compare...
2008-02-04 18:05 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulengerula_uluguruensis
2008-02-04 18:06 < cimon> What is that image next to the stubnotice supposed to look like?
2008-02-04 18:07 < CompwhizII> lol
2008-02-04 18:07 < CompwhizII> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Syphonops_annulatus.jpg
2008-02-04 18:07 < CompwhizII> ooooo
2008-02-04 18:08 < cimon> woops, forget I asked... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Syphonops_annulatus.jpg
2008-02-04 18:08 < CompwhizII> wait what ;)
2008-02-04 18:08 < cimon> doesn't scale that well to an icon...
2008-02-04 18:08 < CompwhizII> ur right
2008-02-04 18:11 < cimon> btw, here is the presidential standard of Finland... Can you spot where the swastica is hiding? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Presidential_Standard_of_Finland.svg
2008-02-04 18:12 < CompwhizII> i see!
2008-02-04 18:12 < CompwhizII> fucking nazis >:|
2008-02-04 18:13 < Snowolf> ...
2008-02-04 18:13 < CompwhizII> snowolf: did u look?
2008-02-04 18:13 < Snowolf> yes
2008-02-04 18:14 < CompwhizII> did u find it
2008-02-04 18:14 < Snowolf> yes
2008-02-04 18:17 * CompwhizII is away
2008-02-04 18:18 * Ceiling_Cat is feeling punchy
2008-02-04 18:19 < vonerich> cimon: that could predate nazi usage
2008-02-04 18:20 < vonerich> if thats what you're implying
2008-02-04 18:20 < vonerich> plus the nazi symbol lies on a point
2008-02-04 18:22 < zero1328> It predates it.. it's noted in [[Western use of the Swastika in the early 20th century]]
2008-02-04 18:22 < AnMaster> hm wikipedia times out? is it just me or?
2008-02-04 18:23 < Snowolf> two server down
2008-02-04 18:23 < AnMaster> hm
2008-02-04 18:23 < x42bn6> who killed wikipedia?
2008-02-04 18:23 < Gerrit> Emperor Nero
2008-02-04 18:23 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-04 18:23 < White_Cat> well
2008-02-04 18:23 < Gerrit> it's respondic
2008-02-04 18:24 < x42bn6> it's alive!
2008-02-04 18:24 < White_Cat> I can punch you on request
2008-02-04 18:24 < Mr_Treason> Damn, that was a quick recovery.
2008-02-04 18:26 < cimon> vonerich: that "Cross of Liberty" device on the standard used to be a standard swastica, but was modified in modern times to render it more distinct from the german version...
2008-02-04 18:27 < cimon> so it does predate it and antedates it too, in that it was specifically reworked to distinguish it from the nazi symbol
2008-02-04 18:28 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-04 18:28 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Bots_to_edit_protected_pages
2008-02-04 18:29 * cimon is feeling wassailly.
2008-02-04 18:34 < cimon> "Praesidet sacerdos muliebri ornatu, sed deos interpretatione Romana Castorem Pollucemque memorant"
2008-02-04 18:34 < geniice> http://philmorle.com/index.php/help-required-with-wikipedia-big-prize/
2008-02-04 18:36 < cimon> free translation: the priest is in drag, and the Romans would have it that Castor and Pollux are the pair to be worshipped
2008-02-04 18:36 < CompwhizII> back
2008-02-04 18:37 < cimon> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretatio_graeca
2008-02-04 18:38 < cimon> I think pretty much everybody does that...
2008-02-04 18:39 < cimon> I mean tying analogies to ones own belief system, not the priest in drag thing...
2008-02-04 18:40 < cimon> Deepak Chopra and Wolfgang Pauli are even doing the same thing with physics... and the ID folks...
2008-02-04 18:41 < cimon> There is a powerful idea behind there... That everything really resembles everything else...
2008-02-04 18:42 < Messedrocker> for example
2008-02-04 18:42 < Messedrocker> cimon bears the spitting image of a tree
2008-02-04 18:42 < Messedrocker> and trees bear the spitting image of a certain configuring of quarks
2008-02-04 18:42 < cimon> yes, the pogostick is the ur-tree
2008-02-04 18:42 < Messedrocker> and quarks bear a certain resemblence to Mitt Romney
2008-02-04 18:43 < Messedrocker> and romney looks like a handsomer schwarzenegger
2008-02-04 18:43 < Messedrocker> are there any questions
2008-02-04 18:44 < cimon> there have to be messengers, no matter what your system of belief is or not... call them what you like, angels, mercury, toutatis, hermes, anubis whatever...
2008-02-04 18:44 < cimon> sorry, horus, not anubis
2008-02-04 18:45 < cimon> it is getting very late here, have to go to bed and dream of messengers...
2008-02-04 18:45 < Messedrocker> be sure to dream of quarks, too
2008-02-04 18:45 < Messedrocker> hello grace notes
2008-02-04 18:45 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: I'm putting two more stories into the works
2008-02-04 18:45 < Mike_H> for Wikinews
2008-02-04 18:46 < cimon> Messedrocker: I don't believe in quarks... They do nothing... just creative accounting...
2008-02-04 18:46 < cimon> basically I find quarks the enron of physics...
2008-02-04 18:47 < cimon> I can believe in spin states but quarks, meh.
2008-02-04 18:52 < cimon> lol @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esus
2008-02-04 18:52 < Messedrocker> "Gaulish" sounds like something someone from the Bronx would say
2008-02-04 18:53 < Gracenotes> cimon: is that an article about the chord?
2008-02-04 18:53 < Gracenotes> oh, a Gaulish god. Not as bad as I thought...
2008-02-04 18:53 < Messedrocker> good damn bit torrent!
2008-02-04 18:54 < cimon> "Modern scholars consider the resemblance between the names Esus and Jesus to be coincidental." - well, they would say that, wouldn't they...?
2008-02-04 18:54 < cimon> Else they would have to conclude that Jesus was a Gaul, and not a Jew, after all.
2008-02-04 18:55 < geniice> jesus isn't a great translation
2008-02-04 18:55 < Messedrocker> his original name was more like Yeshua, wasn't it?
2008-02-04 18:55 < cimon> I know, yesua or yehoshua
2008-02-04 18:55 < geniice> yehoshua
2008-02-04 18:55 < Messedrocker> and that's after you transliterate it from semitic lettering to roman lettering
2008-02-04 18:55 < Gracenotes> meaning Joshua
2008-02-04 18:56 < Messedrocker> his name was josh!
2008-02-04 18:56 < cimon> except that the written sources are greek
2008-02-04 18:56 < cimon> koine
2008-02-04 18:56 < cimon> so it is a tossup
2008-02-04 18:57 < Gracenotes> Messedrocker: a fact that modern Christian authors writing Christ figures in novels have exploited
2008-02-04 18:57 < Gracenotes> you'd think they could be more original :|
2008-02-04 18:57 < geniice> Ίησους perhaps
2008-02-04 18:57 < Gracenotes> *has
2008-02-04 18:57 < Gracenotes> no, *have
2008-02-04 18:58 < Messedrocker> this torrent is a mess. it downloads some, and then abruptly stops
2008-02-04 18:58 < Messedrocker> like just now
2008-02-04 18:58 < cimon> geniice: well, Simon Peter was likely (if we assume Simon Peter at least was jewish) likely jewish for "he hears" rather than greek for Rock...
2008-02-04 18:58 < Messedrocker> this is a mucking fess
2008-02-04 19:00 < cimon> king fess what?
2008-02-04 19:00 < geniice> cimon paul thought peter's mob was jewish so I think we assume they were
2008-02-04 19:00 < cimon> that the king stole an apple?
2008-02-04 19:01 < cimon> geniice: well peter certainly advocated converting to some slack form of judaism, at teh very least...
2008-02-04 19:02 < geniice> converting from judaism isn't that easy
2008-02-04 19:02 < cimon> to
2008-02-04 19:02 < cimon> not from
2008-02-04 19:03 < cimon> but yes, it is conceivable that simon was hellenic, but it isn't born by the balance of probabilities...
2008-02-04 19:04 < cimon> after all his brother was a jacob.
2008-02-04 19:04 < Demi> http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/the_knights_who_say_nerd_20_pop <- entry 5
2008-02-04 19:04 < Rinn> Monty Python is geeky?
2008-02-04 19:05 < cimon> cant thing of a hellenic version of james
2008-02-04 19:06 < cimon> James was the borother of Simon Peter, wasn't he?
2008-02-04 19:06 < cimon> I am too exhausted, really have to go sleep now...
2008-02-04 19:07 < Xihix> Whats so great about To Kill a Mocking Bird?
2008-02-04 19:08 < Messedrocker> hmmm
2008-02-04 19:08 < Messedrocker> i liked it
2008-02-04 19:08 < Rinn> Everybody loves The Simpsons?
2008-02-04 19:08 < Demi> well, first, that bird totally had it coming
2008-02-04 19:08 < Gracenotes> Xihix: do you dislike it?
2008-02-04 19:08 < Demi> with the way it was mocking everyone
2008-02-04 19:08 < Xihix> I mean, I'm reading it..
2008-02-04 19:08 < Xihix> and it's just so boring.
2008-02-04 19:09 < Xihix> Does it get good at some point?
2008-02-04 19:09 < Demi> did you get to the part where Boo Radley kills the little girl?
2008-02-04 19:09 < Messedrocker> or the sex scene between Tituba and the judge?
2008-02-04 19:09 < Gracenotes> well, yes, contributing to 4chan may have numbed you to its moral :P
2008-02-04 19:09 < Xihix> so
2008-02-04 19:10 < Xihix> Boo kills the main character?
2008-02-04 19:10 < Demi> Messedrocker - my favorite is the part where the Devil picks the jury
2008-02-04 19:10 < CompwhizII> hi
2008-02-04 19:10 < Gracenotes> Xihix: Snape kills Trinity with Rosebud, etc.
2008-02-04 19:10 < Xihix> Does Boo Radley rape any of the children?
2008-02-04 19:10 < Demi> Xihix - constantly
2008-02-04 19:10 < Xihix> Who the most?
2008-02-04 19:10 < Messedrocker> Xihix, so you know yhbt
2008-02-04 19:10 < Xihix> Jem?
2008-02-04 19:11 < Demi> or why don't you read the book? it's fucking short
2008-02-04 19:11 < Messedrocker> yeah man
2008-02-04 19:11 < Messedrocker> you know what else is short? of mice and men
2008-02-04 19:11 < Xihix> You call 300 pages short?!
2008-02-04 19:11 < Rinn> Yes.
2008-02-04 19:11 < Demi> Xihix - yes, quite
2008-02-04 19:11 < Xihix> jesus.
2008-02-04 19:11 < Messedrocker> 300 pages in paperback is different
2008-02-04 19:12 < Demi> http://www.echeat.com/category.php?f=55 <- heh
2008-02-04 19:12 < Xihix> You know
2008-02-04 19:12 < Xihix> I hate reading more than anything
2008-02-04 19:12 < Demi> you should probably watch more TV
2008-02-04 19:12 < Xihix> I've read very few books that I ever liked.
2008-02-04 19:12 < Gracenotes> Xihix: three words: books on tape
2008-02-04 19:12 * Rinn gets out her copy of the Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide
2008-02-04 19:13 < Rinn> 815 pages.
2008-02-04 19:13 < Gracenotes> or CD, if you wish
2008-02-04 19:13 < Xihix> You know what?
2008-02-04 19:13 < Xihix> I'm going to write a book about rape
2008-02-04 19:13 < Xihix> that will be interesting, for once.
2008-02-04 19:13 < Rinn> Too late!
2008-02-04 19:13 < Messedrocker> Xihix: of mathematicians?
2008-02-04 19:13 < Xihix> No, it's going to be very detailed rape scenes
2008-02-04 19:13 < Xihix> that will be awesome
2008-02-04 19:13 < Demi> Xihix - are you going to call it "Methods and Techniques Of Canola Agriculture"?
2008-02-04 19:14 < Xihix> Hmm... Not bad.
2008-02-04 19:14 < Messedrocker> do what JG Ballard does
2008-02-04 19:14 < Rinn> You'd better make it biologically correct. That always bugs me.
2008-02-04 19:14 < Xihix> I'll probably read some copypastas from 4chan for inspiration.
2008-02-04 19:14 < Messedrocker> and do something so utterly fucked up, people will think you're legitimately insane
2008-02-04 19:14 < Xihix> Oh, I will...
2008-02-04 19:14 < Demi> people who don't like reading much always make the best writers, i find
2008-02-04 19:14 < Messedrocker> like, write a book about people who get off to car crashes
2008-02-04 19:14 < Messedrocker> yet the prose has no humanity to it
2008-02-04 19:14 < Xihix> I've already made a cool story, but I don't think I would be allowed to tell you guys in here.
2008-02-04 19:15 < Xihix> sounds good!
2008-02-04 19:15 < Xihix> hmm
2008-02-04 19:15 < Rinn> To date, the only "real book" I've ever read in completion has been Hitchhiker's Guide, yet I love writing.
2008-02-04 19:15 < Xihix> getting off to car crashes
2008-02-04 19:15 < Scottc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwned
2008-02-04 19:15 < Xihix> that actually IS pretty awesome.
2008-02-04 19:15 < Scottc> I think maybe some little kid needs to be banned? :)
2008-02-04 19:15 < Messedrocker> Xihix, too bad such a book already exists
2008-02-04 19:15 < Gracenotes> Xihix: no necrophilia, okay? for everyone's benefit? :|
2008-02-04 19:15 < Xihix> I am TOTALLY reading it
2008-02-04 19:15 < Xihix> whats it called?
2008-02-04 19:16 < Rinn> Oh man! rKos totally got whupped!
2008-02-04 19:16 < Gracenotes> omg
2008-02-04 19:16 < Scottc> lol
2008-02-04 19:16 < Rinn> Grace: *I* like necrophilia. It always brings up interesting moral dillemas.
2008-02-04 19:17 < Scottc> imo rkos needs to be banned from wikipedia :)
2008-02-04 19:17 < Rinn> Dilemma. Hate that word.
2008-02-04 19:17 < Gracenotes> Rinn: the whole guilt/angst loved-one necrophilia genre is so overdone, though
2008-02-04 19:18 < Rinn> It is?
2008-02-04 19:18 < Rinn> What about pedonecrophilia?
2008-02-04 19:18 < Gracenotes> ...
2008-02-04 19:18 < Demi> my old video store had a necrophilia section
2008-02-04 19:19 < Gracenotes> Rinn: I've never thought to add that prefix to necrophilia. *oh dear*
2008-02-04 19:19 < Rinn> Something like Lolita from the view of an axe murderer.
2008-02-04 19:19 < Gracenotes> yes, I was reminded of Lolita as well.
2008-02-04 19:20 < Gracenotes> but, on the other hand, I think some chans have that genre covered, just in images, rather than fiction.
2008-02-04 19:20 < Lady_Aleena> What was the name of the film and the name of the character where the creepy girl crawled out of a television set?
2008-02-04 19:20 < Rinn> There's at least one video of which I know.
2008-02-04 19:20 < Lady_Aleena> BTW, hello all.
2008-02-04 19:20 < CompwhizII> hello
2008-02-04 19:20 < Rinn> The Ring, I think?
2008-02-04 19:20 < foo^^^> what do I need to do to fetch an URL from wikipedia.org? I'm trying with "GET [absolute URL] HTTP/1.0" but it doesn't work -- I get a 400-error
2008-02-04 19:21 < Gracenotes> foo^^^: did you supply a User-Agent?
2008-02-04 19:21 < Demi> Lady_Aleena - the government is requiring us all to buy TVs with creepy girls in them by February next year
2008-02-04 19:21 < Gracenotes> and absolute URLs don't work; it should start with a directory
2008-02-04 19:21 < Lady_Aleena> Rinn, I don't know... :S
2008-02-04 19:21 < foo^^^> Gracenotes, a what?
2008-02-04 19:22 < Lady_Aleena> Demi, that sucks...I don't want creepy girls coming out of my televsion.
2008-02-04 19:22 < foo^^^> I'm trying e.g. "GET / HTTP/1.0"
2008-02-04 19:22 < foo^^^> even that gives me a 400-error
2008-02-04 19:22 < Lady_Aleena> :O
2008-02-04 19:22 < Undeference> foo^^^: add a Host header
2008-02-04 19:22 < Undeference> e.g., Host: en.wikipedia.org
2008-02-04 19:22 < foo^^^> Undeference, can you give me a syntax and/or an example?
2008-02-04 19:23 < foo^^^> I've tried this on en.wikipedia.org:80 too
2008-02-04 19:23 < Demi> Lady_Aleena - put saran wrap over it
2008-02-04 19:23 < Gracenotes> GET /w/index.php?title=Hai HTTP/1.0\r\n
2008-02-04 19:23 < Gracenotes> Host: en.wikipedia.org\r\n
2008-02-04 19:23 < Cyrius> why are you doing this, and what tool are you using?
2008-02-04 19:23 < Gracenotes> User-Agent: Put something here\r\n
2008-02-04 19:23 < Undeference> two sets of \r\n after the request
2008-02-04 19:23 < Gracenotes> and \r\n
2008-02-04 19:23 < Demi> the right tool for the job is obviously an httpwrench
2008-02-04 19:23 < foo^^^> Gracenotes, that gives me 400-error too
2008-02-04 19:23 < foo^^^> Cyrius, I'm writing a small tool for myself in C
2008-02-04 19:24 < foo^^^> I'm not using any tool
2008-02-04 19:24 < Lady_Aleena> Demi, all I have is pink Saran wrap, and it would probably take a whole roll to cover my television, unless we downgraded to a really tiny one.
2008-02-04 19:24 < foo^^^> other than vim
2008-02-04 19:24 < Gracenotes> foo^^^: what's the error given?
2008-02-04 19:24 < foo^^^> HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
2008-02-04 19:24 < Demi> Lady_Aleena - it would give an interesting look to the TV
2008-02-04 19:24 < Gracenotes> foo^^^: the response page usually has a message about what went wrong at the bottom
2008-02-04 19:24 < Cyrius> you mean other than a TCP/IP library of some description =)
2008-02-04 19:24 < Undeference> GET / HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: en.wikipedia.org\r\n\r\n works fine here
2008-02-04 19:25 < Lady_Aleena> Demi, I know...but nah, I will stick to the non-creepy girl television I have now. :)
2008-02-04 19:25 < Demi> Lady_Aleena - the countdown begins. long live the new flesh.
2008-02-04 19:25 < foo^^^> Undeference, just to make it perfectly clear, the string I should _send_ to the HTTP-server "en.wikipedia.org" at port 80, is "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n", correct?
2008-02-04 19:26 < Lady_Aleena> ACK! Which character is the creey little girl?
2008-02-04 19:26 < Demi> in ther ring? she's probably credited as "creepy little girl"
2008-02-04 19:26 < Gracenotes> Lady_Aleena: the wiki article might have some info
2008-02-04 19:26 < Undeference> \r is a carriage return (ascii 13), \n is a line feed (ascii 10)
2008-02-04 19:27 < Lady_Aleena> Gracenotes: I am looking at the article.
2008-02-04 19:28 < foo^^^> Undeference, in other words, what I'd get from hitting return in telnet?
2008-02-04 19:28 < foo^^^> 0x0a and 0x0d?
2008-02-04 19:28 < Undeference> right
2008-02-04 19:29 < foo^^^> I do get a whole HTML-file sent my way
2008-02-04 19:29 < foo^^^> but it is a file that describes an error
2008-02-04 19:29 < foo^^^> it isn't the file I want, and it isn't the /-file
2008-02-04 19:29 < foo^^^> and I do get that 400-error at the top
2008-02-04 19:29 < foo^^^> so I'm guessing something is wrong :-)
2008-02-04 19:32 < Demi> foo^^^ - it's HTTP/1.0, it wants a Host: header
2008-02-04 19:33 < Ionas_Freeman> just noticed this - http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip7=207.46.38.0-97.255 edit from microsoft
2008-02-04 19:33 < Demi> foo^^^ - actually no, that's probably not it
2008-02-04 19:34 < foo^^^> now I got a 301, I think I'm getting somewhere with that "Host: [header]"-stuff
2008-02-04 19:34 < Demi> yes, that's corre8ct
2008-02-04 19:34 < Undeference> 301 is fine
2008-02-04 19:34 < Demi> er "correct"
2008-02-04 19:34 < Undeference> (wikipedia wants you to request /wiki/Main_Page instead)
2008-02-04 19:35 < foo^^^> I just noticed :-)
2008-02-04 19:35 < Demi> foo^^^ - you might like this quick and dirty intro to HTTP: http://jmarshall.com/easy/http/
2008-02-04 19:36 < foo^^^> fantastic you guys, now I can get back to coding :-)
2008-02-04 19:36 < Ionas_Freeman> try to find "Copyleft" on the page http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip7=207.46.38.0-97.255 and you will see that edit ( the other edits are from Microsoft)
2008-02-04 19:36 < foo^^^> and I'll look at that too, Demi, thanks
2008-02-04 19:37 < Paine> what time is/was prison break on?
2008-02-04 19:38 < Messedrocker> hello gerard
2008-02-04 19:42 < Gracenotes> hm, freehostia doesn't want to create a MySQL database for me :(
2008-02-04 19:43 < Gracenotes> anyone else having this sort of problem?
2008-02-04 19:43 < CompwhizII> with what?
2008-02-04 19:43 < Gracenotes> oops, forgot, I'm only allowed to have one database :|
2008-02-04 19:43 * Gracenotes headdesks
2008-02-04 19:44 < Demi> i wish subversion weren't such a pile
2008-02-04 19:44 < Gracenotes> but 10MB is a lot, anyway. Maybe I can ignore common sense rules of database design and put two databases under one name
2008-02-04 19:47 * Mike_H writes a Wikinews article
2008-02-04 19:47 < Mike_H> The Orlando Sentinel published a scathing editorial rebuke of U.S. Congresswoman Ginny Brown-Waite in its Monday edition. The editorial specifically addressed comments made by the lawmaker last week that Puerto Ricans are "foreign" and therefore should not receive aid from the United States government.
2008-02-04 19:48 < Messedrocker> puerto ricans are americans though
2008-02-04 19:48 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: Yes, thus why people are pissed
2008-02-04 19:48 < Messedrocker> their govt is subjugated by our govt
2008-02-04 19:48 < Mike_H> she was even asked by the Sentinel to retract her statement considering the evidence
2008-02-04 19:48 < Mike_H> and her press rep said "no, her comments are fine"
2008-02-04 19:49 < Mike_H> Rep. Brown-Waite represents the fifth congressional district of Florida, which covers much of the Tampa Bay and Orlando metropolitan areas, which are home to sizable numbers of Puerto Ricans.
2008-02-04 19:49 < Mike_H> Puerto Rico is a commonwealth, or an unincorporated organized territory, of the United States. While Puerto Rico natives do not pay federal income tax, they do pay toward Social Security as well as other salaried taxes. Puerto Ricans have been citizens of the United States since the ratification of the Jones-Shafroth Act in 1917.
2008-02-04 19:51 < Ionas_Freeman> hi uberpenguin
2008-02-04 19:54 < kenlyric> it's like those goddamn alaskans. they're practically canadian
2008-02-04 19:54 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-02-04 19:54 < Mike_H> "those Puerto Ricans, they're brown, not white like good Americans"
2008-02-04 19:55 < Ionas_Freeman> Mike_H: That seems to be her atitude exactly
2008-02-04 19:55 < Ionas_Freeman> attitude *
2008-02-04 19:56 < Mike_H> Ionas_Freeman: She's kind of a hick, and she's representing hicks AND city people
2008-02-04 19:56 < Mike_H> her problem is that she's speaking like she's only representing hicks
2008-02-04 19:56 < Mike_H> hicks wouldn't have batted an eye to it, they hate foreigners, and brown = foreigner to them
2008-02-04 19:56 < kenlyric> puerto ricans are pretty white.
2008-02-04 19:57 < Ionas_Freeman> Mike_H: Couldn't have said it better myself.
2008-02-04 19:57 < Mike_H> ehh, it depends
2008-02-04 19:57 < Mike_H> I know both
2008-02-04 19:57 < Mike_H> some who look really white
2008-02-04 19:57 < Mike_H> and others who look dark.
2008-02-04 19:57 < kenlyric> I mean, for miami
2008-02-04 19:57 < Mike_H> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Jaslene_gonzalez_by_kevin_sinclair.jpg
2008-02-04 19:57 < Mike_H> Jaslene's Puerto Rican and she looks brown.
2008-02-04 19:57 < kenlyric> I still say though, our territories need to vote on statehood or independence.
2008-02-04 19:58 < kenlyric> territories are so 19th century.
2008-02-04 19:58 * IceKarma nudges Kasu
2008-02-04 19:59 < kibble> mber of edits: 3,522
2008-02-04 19:59 < kibble> oops
2008-02-04 20:00 < nokmar> I have a question
2008-02-04 20:00 < Ionas_Freeman> Nokmar: What is it?
2008-02-04 20:00 < nokmar> does the editcounter count edits on pages that were subsequently deleted?
2008-02-04 20:00 < Snowolf> nokmar: no
2008-02-04 20:00 < Snowolf> check your preferences for that
2008-02-04 20:00 < nokmar> so all CSD work doesn't count
2008-02-04 20:01 < Ionas_Freeman> tagging a page for speedy deletion doesn't, if the page is successfully deleted.
2008-02-04 20:30 < Cyrius> nokmar: edit counts are irrelevant
2008-02-04 20:33 < gwern> god love me for a duck, but I do like me oolong tea
2008-02-04 20:34 < Cyrius> quack
2008-02-04 20:35 < Cyrius> so freaking quiet in here
2008-02-04 20:35 * gwern doesn't even know what that means, it's just a family expression
2008-02-04 20:35 < Cyrius> I guess we finally ran out of stuff to say
2008-02-04 20:38 < bumm13> </#wikipedia>
2008-02-04 20:38 < Cyrius> </channel></irc>
2008-02-04 20:39 < gwern> </content> <!-- End page. -->
2008-02-04 20:39 < Mike_H> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Furor_continues_a_week_after_Rep._Brown-Waite%27s_%22foreign%22_comment
2008-02-04 20:39 < Mike_H> done!
2008-02-04 20:39 < Mike_H> The Orlando Sentinel published a scathing editorial rebuke of U.S. Congresswoman Ginny Brown-Waite in its Monday edition. The editorial specifically addressed comments made by the lawmaker last week that Puerto Ricans are "foreign citizens" and therefore should not receive tax rebate checks from the United States government.
2008-02-04 20:39 < gwern> ok, we're all done here folks! we thank you for helping write #wikipedia 1.0, now we just need to do some copyediting and we'll just barely make our release schedule
2008-02-04 20:40 < gwern> come on, let's get moving on the release candidate! hustle hustle folks!
2008-02-04 20:40 < bumm13> did she say that they were instead entitled to 2 free chickens?
2008-02-04 20:40 < Mike_H> not even that, those brown foreigners
2008-02-04 20:41 < bumm13> aww
2008-02-04 20:44 * gwern watches a video on [[fainting goats]]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg <-- lol
2008-02-04 20:53 < atomicpotato> anyone recognize this: http://political-analysis.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/dali-time-melting.jpg.w300h218.jpg?
2008-02-04 20:53 < Messedrocker> i think that's dali
2008-02-04 20:53 < Messedrocker> but i am most likely wrong
2008-02-04 20:53 < Darksun> It's a Salvador Dali painting
2008-02-04 20:53 < gwern> it's his most famous one
2008-02-04 20:53 < Darksun> Called uhh
2008-02-04 20:53 < atomicpotato> thanks, the name eluded me
2008-02-04 20:53 < Darksun> Yeah, I can't remember
2008-02-04 20:53 < gwern> clocks like 'melting brie', I believe he described it
2008-02-04 20:53 < Darksun> heh
2008-02-04 20:54 < Darksun> I'd tell you if I could get web access
2008-02-04 20:54 < gwern> brie being the soft french cheese, of course
2008-02-04 20:54 < atomicpotato> Ah, the Persistence of Memory
2008-02-04 20:54 < atomicpotato> found it
2008-02-04 20:54 < gwern> [[The Persistence of Memory]]
2008-02-04 20:59 * NotACow sighs
2008-02-04 20:59 < Messedrocker> is wrong, notacow?
2008-02-04 20:59 < doomssassin> Is this some conspiracy...
2008-02-04 21:02 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-02-04 21:02 < Messedrocker> hi ceiling cat
2008-02-04 21:03 < Messedrocker> how risky is seeding your own files?
2008-02-04 21:03 < atomicpotato> "seeding"?
2008-02-04 21:03 < atomicpotato> ondepends if you use protecti
2008-02-04 21:03 < atomicpotato> protection* god, chatzilla fails
2008-02-04 21:08 < yao_ziyuan> vote for mccain! liberate china!
2008-02-04 21:08 < Messedrocker> you can't fuck for virginity, buddy
2008-02-04 21:13 < doomssassin> Wow, BMW should sue.
2008-02-04 21:15 < Messedrocker> sue whom
2008-02-04 21:15 < Messedrocker> and for what
2008-02-04 21:16 < doomssassin> CVU.
2008-02-04 21:16 < doomssassin> And for blatant ripping of the propellor logo.
2008-02-04 21:16 * Mike_H pets ALLSTARecho
2008-02-04 21:16 < NotACow> CVU is throughly irresponsible in that regard
2008-02-04 21:17 < ALLSTARecho> woot woot
2008-02-04 21:18 < doomssassin> I wouldn't say anything, but it would be the equivalent of someone starting a business under the name of "Ford Motor Company".
2008-02-04 21:30 < Ashfire908> hey anyone know what language this is? "enak na ada cewek temanika di kamarku"
2008-02-04 21:31 < Fernando_Gago> eu quero comer teu cu.. alguem quer