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2008-02-03 16:14 * NCC-1701-E looks around
2008-02-03 16:14 * Huntster flies a Scimitar into NCC-1701-E.
2008-02-03 16:14 * NCC-1701-E raises deflector shields, activates ablative hull armor
2008-02-03 16:15 * NCC-1701-E arms photon torpedoes, locks onto Huntster
2008-02-03 16:24 < DragonFire1024> just for an announcement
2008-02-03 16:24 < DragonFire1024> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology:_%27%22Anonymous%27_will_be_stopped%22
2008-02-03 16:24 < DragonFire1024> CoS is gonna hate WN :)
2008-02-03 16:27 < Gwern-away> anonymous cannot be stopped. it is legion
2008-02-03 16:27 < Gwern-away> you can however distrac - ooh shiny!
2008-02-03 16:32 < DragonFire1024> :)
2008-02-03 16:32 < DragonFire1024> lol
2008-02-03 16:56 < Mike2> love the template http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Bruni#External_links
2008-02-03 16:57 < dungodung> Nicolas Sarkozy (incumbent)
2008-02-03 16:58 < dungodung> jeezes
2008-02-03 16:59 < OverlordQ> aghahgah incumbent lol
2008-02-03 16:59 < rory096> lmao
2008-02-03 16:59 < Snowolf> wonderful :)
2008-02-03 17:00 < WBOSITG> ...
2008-02-03 17:00 < rory096> wait, how could raphael enthoven be her divorced husband when the article says her marriage to sarkozy is her first?
2008-02-03 17:01 < SJFriedl> crazy French laws regarding anything about marriage?
2008-02-03 17:03 < quanticle> SJFriedl: Wait. The French have crazy laws regarding marriage too? I thought it was just us Americans.
2008-02-03 17:09 < rory096> when does the super bowl start?
2008-02-03 17:09 < WBOSITG> no idea ;)
2008-02-03 17:09 < MECU> 4pm Mountain time
2008-02-03 17:09 < MECU> about 50 minutes
2008-02-03 17:10 < WBOSITG> so 11 pm here
2008-02-03 17:10 < WBOSITG> lol
2008-02-03 17:10 < eth01> ..
2008-02-03 17:10 < WBOSITG> ^
2008-02-03 17:10 < SJFriedl> Wikipedia says 23:30 GMT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLII
2008-02-03 17:10 < eth01> ..
2008-02-03 17:10 < rory096> ah, thanks
2008-02-03 17:11 < Snowolf> SJFriedl: would you trust Wikipedia? :O
2008-02-03 17:11 < SJFriedl> I'd never believe anything I was entrusted to edit
2008-02-03 17:11 < rory096> wikipedia? never heard of it
2008-02-03 17:11 < WBOSITG> haha
2008-02-03 17:12 < Snowolf> hi Track_N_Field
2008-02-03 17:15 < Sparkizzy> "please maybe"?
2008-02-03 17:15 * _andrey_ is ROFLMAO
2008-02-03 17:15 < Sparkizzy> that's messed up
2008-02-03 17:32 * quanticle hears crickets chirp
2008-02-03 17:32 * FastLizard4|busy shoots quanticle with a 10 gauge shotgun
2008-02-03 17:32 * quanticle dies
2008-02-03 17:33 * quanticle is resurrected
2008-02-03 17:34 < quanticle> FastLizard4|busy: That was mean
2008-02-03 17:34 * SJFriedl thinks some some people are *way* too bored
2008-02-03 17:34 < SJFriedl> :-)
2008-02-03 17:35 < MECU> you could go watch the edit wars over the superbowl article
2008-02-03 17:37 * _andrey_ agrees with SJFriedl
2008-02-03 17:38 < _andrey_> \
2008-02-03 17:39 < TheLetterE> bah pinged
2008-02-03 17:52 < Messedrocker> holy shit
2008-02-03 17:52 < Messedrocker> they used the world "ascertained" in super mario galaxy
2008-02-03 17:53 < Messedrocker> isn't that a bit... big?
2008-02-03 17:53 < kylu> what are you implying, Messed? :)
2008-02-03 17:53 < Messedrocker> oh, i know what it means
2008-02-03 17:53 < mavhc> the translaters didn't realise it was for kids
2008-02-03 17:54 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Well, if they're going for that sort of effect, I don't see why its a *bad* word to use.
2008-02-03 17:54 < Messedrocker> just that i never really associate video games with high-end vocabulary
2008-02-03 17:54 < Messedrocker> quanticle, i guess you could say Rosalina is not an idiot
2008-02-03 17:54 < kylu> perhaps that's something that we should encourage?
2008-02-03 17:54 < quanticle> mavhc: I'm pretty sure that Nintendo created a different versions for Japan and America.
2008-02-03 17:55 < Messedrocker> yep
2008-02-03 17:55 < Messedrocker> they port them to different languages
2008-02-03 17:55 < Messedrocker> except the japanese version has some engrish in it
2008-02-03 17:55 < Messedrocker> e.g. "STAR GET!"
2008-02-03 17:58 < NCC-1701-E> JohnReaves: ?
2008-02-03 17:59 < quanticle> JohnReaves: Why did you kick porty?
2008-02-03 17:59 < Zenwhat_> Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Template:User_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29
2008-02-03 17:59 < wimt> quanticle, he's evading an autoremove
2008-02-03 17:59 < quanticle> wimt: Oh. Ok.
2008-02-03 17:59 < zero1328> He didn't kick, looks like porty left volunatrily
2008-02-03 18:00 < wimt> And there's a lot of history to why he's autoremoved
2008-02-03 18:00 < wimt> zero1328, it was a remove which is a forced part (much like a kick)
2008-02-03 18:00 < wimt> It's a freenode only thing
2008-02-03 18:00 < zero1328> that explains why I'm not familiar with it...
2008-02-03 18:01 < Zenwhat_> Why the hell does freenode suck?!
2008-02-03 18:01 < NCC-1701-E> [14:57:24] <--| porty has left #wikipedia (requested by JohnReaves: "is w00t")
2008-02-03 18:01 < NCC-1701-E> Note the "requested by JohnReaves" part
2008-02-03 18:02 < bumm13> Zenwhat_ - I haven't had any problems
2008-02-03 18:02 * NCC-1701-E scans around at random
2008-02-03 18:02 < quanticle> Zenwhat: I don't know about freenode, but your connection seems to suck
2008-02-03 18:03 < zero1328> It's comcast..
2008-02-03 18:03 < Nakon> it's comcastic!
2008-02-03 18:04 < Zenwhat__> k
2008-02-03 18:12 < zombieninja> I love when cats have different coloured chin fur that makes it look like they have a goatee.
2008-02-03 18:13 < Ashfire908> my dog has a white chin.
2008-02-03 18:15 < jeblad> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugians This needs a _very_ solid reference
2008-02-03 18:15 < jeblad> Not that it will ever be found
2008-02-03 18:15 < __andrey__> or will it, dum dum dum
2008-02-03 18:15 < __andrey__> :P
2008-02-03 18:17 < jeblad> ...an East Germanic tribe whose ultimate origins have been traced to Rogaland in Norway?
2008-02-03 18:18 < jeblad> Hm.. Weeeeell, it could be that we have to rewrite our history here in Norway, but somehow I doubt it
2008-02-03 18:33 < NotACow> DEATH TO FRUSKINS!
2008-02-03 18:36 < RichiH> NotACow: frusking being?
2008-02-03 18:39 < engla> jeblad: but anyway it has 15(?) versions in different languages
2008-02-03 18:39 < engla> so it has to be pretty well-known
2008-02-03 18:39 < jeblad> There are no references in norwegian
2008-02-03 18:40 < jeblad> If anyone can find a historian that is willing to produce a reference its fine with me, but I'm not sure it exist
2008-02-03 18:41 < jeblad> A version of this article was translated into norwegian tonight (local time) and I nominated it for deletion
2008-02-03 18:47 < shimgray> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rugians&oldid=6307582 is the original copied-from-an-encyclopedia version
2008-02-03 18:47 < shimgray> the source work is available through Runeberg
2008-02-03 18:48 < jeblad> I don't think that source is reliable
2008-02-03 18:48 < jeblad> Get a citation from a historian
2008-02-03 18:48 < shimgray> http://runeberg.org/nfcc/0619.html
2008-02-03 18:49 < shimgray> well, you can happily say "the source is wrong", but please do avoid claiming there aren't any
2008-02-03 18:50 < shimgray> hmm, the article's signed
2008-02-03 18:50 < shimgray> the book probably has an index of contributors somewhere
2008-02-03 18:51 < jeblad> The book is a well known lexicon of not to good quality
2008-02-03 18:52 < jeblad> Basically there are very little known about norwegian history before 500 AD
2008-02-03 18:52 < shimgray> not unusual; pretty much anywhere before the Church came along, outside Rome, you have very little
2008-02-03 18:52 < shimgray> ah, there he is. "Boëthius, S. J., f. d. professor vid Uppsala universitet"
2008-02-03 18:53 < jeblad> Get a historian, don't bother with that book at all
2008-02-03 18:54 < shimgray> Or, you know, you could find out who the author was.
2008-02-03 18:54 < NotACow> RichiH: i'll let you know when i find out :)
2008-02-03 18:54 < SPUI> DEATH TO POOING!
2008-02-03 18:55 < shimgray> and here he is:
2008-02-03 18:55 < shimgray> http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Bo%C3%ABthius
2008-02-03 18:57 < RichiH> NotACow: write a lemma when youdo :)
2008-02-03 19:00 < flevio> hello
2008-02-03 19:00 < NCC-1701-E> ...
2008-02-03 19:12 < Luigi30> f
2008-02-03 19:13 < Krimpet> f, indeed
2008-02-03 19:13 < Messedrocker> f the superbowl
2008-02-03 19:14 < cctoide> Woah
2008-02-03 19:14 < cctoide> This is... new
2008-02-03 19:14 < cctoide> http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/03/2217246
2008-02-03 19:16 < loader> <NCC-1701-E> Hi
2008-02-03 19:17 < NCC-1701-E> Hello
2008-02-03 19:17 < loader> How are you?
2008-02-03 19:17 < NCC-1701-E> Great
2008-02-03 19:44 < DragonFire1024> published and got an expert opinion http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology:_%27%22Anonymous%27_will_be_stopped%22
2008-02-03 19:56 < ronabop> The "keylogging" thing in that article looks silly, but most media tends to screw things like that up.
2008-02-03 19:57 < Nakon> le sigh
2008-02-03 19:57 < ronabop> (Keylogging isn't used to gain access to systems, it's only usable to gain additional information from already compromised systems)
2008-02-03 19:58 < DragonFire1024> hmmm good point
2008-02-03 19:59 < Not_the_NSA> LOL!
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA huggles ceil420
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA huggles Fumble_Cat
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA huggles Viagra_Cat
2008-02-03 19:59 < NCC-1701-E> OMG!
2008-02-03 19:59 < NCC-1701-E> CAT SPAM!
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA huggles Huggly_Cat
2008-02-03 19:59 * Snowolf huggles the huggler
2008-02-03 19:59 * Huggly_Cat huggles Not_the_NSA
2008-02-03 19:59 * ceil420 stabs Not_the_NSA
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA huggles Nuclear_Cat
2008-02-03 19:59 < ceil420> :o
2008-02-03 19:59 * Not_the_NSA HUGGLES LOUD_CAT
2008-02-03 19:59 < Cyrius> heh, that one was worth it
2008-02-03 19:59 < Nuclear_Cat> ceil420 - it's all right. We only huggle the ones we love
2008-02-03 19:59 * LOUD_CAT AGREES
2008-02-03 19:59 * NCC-1701-E stabs *_cat
2008-02-03 20:00 < ceil420> lol
2008-02-03 20:01 < Not_the_NSA> Ceiling_Cat , Fumble_Cat , Viagra_Cat , Huggly_Cat , Nuclear_Cat , LOUD_CAT :If I was you I woulid've been autoremmed by now
2008-02-03 20:01 < Not_the_NSA> but you're in the admin cabal, crat cabal, and former arb cabal
2008-02-03 20:01 < Not_the_NSA> so you're immune
2008-02-03 20:02 < Xihix> so many cats :(
2008-02-03 20:02 < Xihix> hmm
2008-02-03 20:02 * NCC-1701-E is now known as Computer_Cat
2008-02-03 20:02 < Xihix> I dunno if the cabal I'm in is good.
2008-02-03 20:02 < Xihix> Tzatziki Squad?
2008-02-03 20:03 * Computer_Cat shoots Nuclear_Cat
2008-02-03 20:03 * ronabop bans bullets
2008-02-03 20:03 * Computer_Cat sets mode #wikipedia +b *!?=Raul654@*
2008-02-03 20:04 * Ceiling_Crat autorem's raul
2008-02-03 20:04 * Ceiling_Crat accuses Ceiling_Cat of running a botnet
2008-02-03 20:04 * Computer_Cat sits on ronabop's lap
2008-02-03 20:05 * ronabop ponders the amount of furries in channel
2008-02-03 20:07 < bumm13> hiya Mark_Ryan
2008-02-03 20:08 < Mark_Ryan> yo yo wattup
2008-02-03 20:08 < bumm13> not much
2008-02-03 20:08 < bumm13> just the American commercial-fest, I mean Super Bowl ;)
2008-02-03 20:08 < bumm13> (and Tom Petty sounds/looks awful)
2008-02-03 20:09 < Mark_Ryan> isn't Justin Timberlake on one of the ads?
2008-02-03 20:09 < Mark_Ryan> they showed some of them on the news here last night
2008-02-03 20:09 < Nakon> Mark_Ryan: one of the pepsi ones
2008-02-03 20:09 < bumm13> yes :P
2008-02-03 20:09 < bumm13> I do like Petty's Rickenbacker guitar though ;)
2008-02-03 20:10 < Mark_Ryan> they make so much money from those ads, they may as well turn it around and say "we now interrupt these words from our sponsors for some football"
2008-02-03 20:11 < wmarsh> The Wikipedia database is temporarily in read-only mode for the following reason:
2008-02-03 20:11 < wmarsh> $1
2008-02-03 20:11 < wmarsh> Oh, that darned $1
2008-02-03 20:11 < Krimpet> ugh, someone has the TV blasting in the apartment above me... i don't want to hear tom petty at 120 dB -_-
2008-02-03 20:12 < Mark_Ryan> wmarsh: is that because the dev forgot to supply a reason?
2008-02-03 20:12 < wmarsh> presumably
2008-02-03 20:12 < kenlyric> inoffensive generic 1990s rock. This is what happens when you have NIPPLES ON TV
2008-02-03 20:13 < wmarsh> he could have at least played his song about pot
2008-02-03 20:13 < wmarsh> presumably this is the last song
2008-02-03 20:14 < bumm13> wmarsh: heh, yeah
2008-02-03 20:14 < bumm13> or some of their older songs
2008-02-03 20:14 < ronabop> Only hafltime? Ugh.
2008-02-03 20:14 < wmarsh> he played the ones everyone knows
2008-02-03 20:15 < bumm13> nobody knows "American Girl" or "Refugee"?
2008-02-03 20:15 < bumm13> (or "Breakdown")
2008-02-03 20:16 < bumm13> darn kids ;)
2008-02-03 20:17 < wmarsh> "the whole game could be struck out on a technicality. There could be an earthquake and they could postpone the game"
2008-02-03 20:17 * bumm13 NP: Tom Petty - Breakdown (1976)
2008-02-03 20:17 < wmarsh> someone explaining why we shouldn't edit the article during the game...
2008-02-03 20:17 < bumm13> ...
2008-02-03 20:17 < Xihix> so
2008-02-03 20:17 < bumm13> yeah, because Arizona has tons of earthquakes ;p
2008-02-03 20:18 < Xihix> have you guys ever tried putting bengay on your balls?
2008-02-03 20:18 < Xihix> just wondering
2008-02-03 20:18 < Krimpet> ...enough, Xihix
2008-02-03 20:18 < Xihix> meh.
2008-02-03 20:19 < Xihix> Krimpet, whats up?
2008-02-03 20:20 < ggreer> kenlyric: well there was like 2 seconds of massive cleavage during this halftime show
2008-02-03 20:20 < Xihix> cleavage from who?
2008-02-03 20:20 < bumm13> they showed a shot of Tony Saragusa?
2008-02-03 20:20 < ggreer> Xihix: some chick in the crowd
2008-02-03 20:20 * bumm13 ducks
2008-02-03 20:20 < ronabop> Tom Petty's man boobs?
2008-02-03 20:21 < wmarsh> gah no Saragusa
2008-02-03 20:21 < ggreer> http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/44269/2003140923385088232_rs.jpg
2008-02-03 20:21 < bumm13> he's too skinny to have man boobs
2008-02-03 20:21 < ggreer> http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/41462/2003143976723629807_rs.jpg
2008-02-03 20:21 < wmarsh> I'll upload those images to the WP article and claim they're public domain
2008-02-03 20:21 < Xihix> won't load
2008-02-03 20:22 < bumm13> ggreer: are those for the gay dudes in here? ;)
2008-02-03 20:22 < ggreer> hmm?
2008-02-03 20:22 < Xihix> ggreer, won't load.
2008-02-03 20:22 < ronabop> It's for folks too scared to play sports without lots of padding. ;)
2008-02-03 20:22 < bumm13> those last two jpeg links
2008-02-03 20:22 < ggreer> bumm13: they're screen caps of the game
2008-02-03 20:22 < ggreer> Xihix: ok, sucks to be you then
2008-02-03 20:22 < Xihix> what are they showing?
2008-02-03 20:22 < bumm13> I was making reference to the cleavage comments you made earlier ;)
2008-02-03 20:23 < ggreer> oh
2008-02-03 20:23 < ggreer> Xihix: grabs that weren't called
2008-02-03 20:23 < Xihix> ah.
2008-02-03 20:23 < bumm13> not much scoring so far
2008-02-03 20:23 < Xihix> the cleavage sounds more cool. got any screenpics of that?
2008-02-03 20:24 < ggreer> Xihix: only if you have an SA forums account
2008-02-03 20:24 < ggreer> http://forums.somethingawful.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=339231297
2008-02-03 20:24 < Xihix> aw
2008-02-03 20:24 < Xihix> I don't have money for some lame account
2008-02-03 20:24 < Xihix> take a screenie of the pic from SA then host it on imageshack
2008-02-03 20:25 < ggreer> it's not worth it
2008-02-03 20:25 < Cyrius> http://xkcd.com/60/
2008-02-03 20:25 < ggreer> http://www.opus-photography.net/RunningDownSomeBoobs2.jpg
2008-02-03 20:25 < ggreer> http://www.opus-photography.net/RunningDownSomeBoobs1.jpg
2008-02-03 20:25 < ggreer> there
2008-02-03 20:26 < wmarsh> meh
2008-02-03 20:26 < Xihix> meh, butterface
2008-02-03 20:28 < ggreer> http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Professional_Football_Championship
2008-02-03 20:28 < Cyrius> ggreer: um, what's with that guy behind her?
2008-02-03 20:29 < bumm13> ggreer: possibly inflated ;)
2008-02-03 20:29 < Messedrocker> hah
2008-02-03 20:29 < Messedrocker> in the year 3000 everything will be instant
2008-02-03 20:29 < Messedrocker> but the DMV will still take 9 fucking seconds
2008-02-03 20:29 < wmarsh> But what about the year 3535...
2008-02-03 20:29 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-03 20:31 < wmarsh> man Sales Genie loves these racial stereotype commercials
2008-02-03 20:31 < ggreer> wow
2008-02-03 20:32 < ggreer> that's racist
2008-02-03 20:32 < Cyrius> ggreer: seriously, why is Bruce Boxleitner standing behind her in a Babylon 5 uniform?
2008-02-03 20:32 < Xihix> jeez
2008-02-03 20:32 < Xihix> that was pretty racist.
2008-02-03 20:32 < wmarsh> I'm predicting this will be the big controversy of the ads
2008-02-03 20:32 < kenlyric> yeah, everyone on the internet just said that same thing :)
2008-02-03 20:33 < kenlyric> we know which commercial will be in the newspapers tomorrow
2008-02-03 20:33 < ggreer> Cyrius: WHA
2008-02-03 20:33 < ggreer> wow
2008-02-03 20:33 < ggreer> that's freaky
2008-02-03 20:33 < kenlyric> grats on Fox, no beavers, but we can have pandas
2008-02-03 20:33 < ggreer> it looks exactly like him
2008-02-03 20:33 < wmarsh> But everyone in sales are white suburbanites... so Sales Genie knows their market
2008-02-03 20:33 < Cyrius> ggreer: I'm burned out enough on porn that I end up noticing backgrounds =)
2008-02-03 20:33 < Messedrocker> kenlyric, now what exactly do you mean by "beaver"
2008-02-03 20:34 < kenlyric> Messedrocker: watch the banned danica patrick commercial
2008-02-03 20:34 < Cyrius> ggreer: and then there seems to be something weird about the black guy's face in 1
2008-02-03 20:34 < ggreer> heh
2008-02-03 20:35 < ggreer> bottle opener suck!
2008-02-03 20:38 < wmarsh> 12-men-on-the-field is the most lawyered rule ever
2008-02-03 20:38 < ronabop> Why bother with the game? http://youtube.com/profile_favorites?p=r&user=adblitz&page=1
2008-02-03 20:38 < Xihix> What happened in the Danica Patrick commercial?
2008-02-03 20:38 < kenlyric> you just gotta watch it.
2008-02-03 20:38 < Xihix> just tell me :(
2008-02-03 20:39 < wmarsh> man, the Doggie Bowl is exciting this year
2008-02-03 20:39 < kenlyric> there were beavers.
2008-02-03 20:39 < kenlyric> I can't really describe it.
2008-02-03 20:39 < bumm13> on Animal Planet
2008-02-03 20:39 < bumm13> ?
2008-02-03 20:39 < Xihix> like, the animals?
2008-02-03 20:39 < wmarsh> yeah
2008-02-03 20:39 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-03 20:39 < wmarsh> it's just a bunch of dogs...
2008-02-03 20:39 < bumm13> I know
2008-02-03 20:39 < wmarsh> fighting and playing
2008-02-03 20:39 < bumm13> it always seemed pointless to me
2008-02-03 20:39 < wmarsh> they seem really wound up this year
2008-02-03 20:39 < wmarsh> in past years they were just chilling
2008-02-03 20:40 < bumm13> heh
2008-02-03 20:40 < bumm13> ()o.o()
2008-02-03 20:40 < Xihix> I was thinking
2008-02-03 20:40 < Xihix> wouldn't the Super Bowl be the greatest hit for a terrorist attack?
2008-02-03 20:41 < Stormscape> the what?
2008-02-03 20:41 * Stormscape checks wikipedia
2008-02-03 20:41 < nokmar> the super bowl is on?
2008-02-03 20:41 < bumm13> yup
2008-02-03 20:41 < OverlordQ> Xihix: already been done
2008-02-03 20:41 < nokmar> oh well, who cares.
2008-02-03 20:41 < kenlyric> Xihix: yes
2008-02-03 20:41 < Xihix> really?
2008-02-03 20:41 < kenlyric> it has much security
2008-02-03 20:41 < OverlordQ> Sum of all fears :P
2008-02-03 20:41 < kenlyric> Black Sunday
2008-02-03 20:41 < Snowolf> Xihix: read Tom Clancy :)
2008-02-03 20:41 < Xihix> doesn't take much to just make a huge plane fly into a stadium
2008-02-03 20:42 < kenlyric> read Thomas Harris
2008-02-03 20:42 < bumm13> I care only as much as there's a game being played
2008-02-03 20:42 < Nakon> Xihix: brb calling fbi
2008-02-03 20:42 < OverlordQ> Xihix: and where are they going to find a huge plane willing to do that?
2008-02-03 20:42 < Stormscape> I still say the easiest way is poison the food.
2008-02-03 20:42 < kenlyric> who would notice?
2008-02-03 20:42 < Stormscape> That way nobody even suspects terrorism until it's too late.
2008-02-03 20:43 < kenlyric> football fans are immune to all food-borne poisons
2008-02-03 20:43 < Stormscape> or perhaps an airborne pathogen.
2008-02-03 20:43 < Xihix> OverlordQ
2008-02-03 20:43 < Xihix> they did it a few years back
2008-02-03 20:43 < Xihix> did you hear about that?
2008-02-03 20:43 < Stormscape> kenlyric: I was thinking on the lines of arsenic in the bread for the hot dogs.
2008-02-03 20:43 < Xihix> was sort of big
2008-02-03 20:44 < Stormscape> or poison the nacho cheese
2008-02-03 20:44 < bumm13> haha
2008-02-03 20:44 < kenlyric> hotdog itself will kill the arsenic
2008-02-03 20:44 < Stormscape> LOL
2008-02-03 20:44 < Stormscape> prolly
2008-02-03 20:44 < Stormscape> ooooor
2008-02-03 20:44 < Stormscape> bubonic plague
2008-02-03 20:44 < Stormscape> that'd be good fun
2008-02-03 20:44 < __andrey__> arsenic is an element
2008-02-03 20:44 < __andrey__> it cannot die
2008-02-03 20:45 < bumm13> it's the undead
2008-02-03 20:45 < __andrey__> well, at least without massive radiation
2008-02-03 20:45 < Stormscape> They need immediate treatment when the boils appear or they pretty much die.
2008-02-03 20:45 < __andrey__> not*
2008-02-03 20:45 < nokmar> bubonic is a bacteria though
2008-02-03 20:45 < nokmar> there's antibiotics
2008-02-03 20:45 * brown_cat_nap looks around for milk
2008-02-03 20:45 * __andrey__ looks for football-shaped rats
2008-02-03 20:45 < __andrey__> to infect with plague
2008-02-03 20:45 < SWATJester> Xihix: there is a TFR for 3 miles around any major stadium sporting event
2008-02-03 20:46 < SWATJester> usually it's larger for things like the superbowl
2008-02-03 20:46 < __andrey__> tfr?
2008-02-03 20:46 < SWATJester> temporary flight restriction
2008-02-03 20:46 < __andrey__> o
2008-02-03 20:46 < Nakon> Ashfire908: welcome to #terrorism
2008-02-03 20:46 < bumm13> 0o.o0
2008-02-03 20:46 < nokmar> nobody ther
2008-02-03 20:46 < Xihix> never knew that, Swat
2008-02-03 20:46 < SWATJester> Yeah, and it increases in inverted pyramid shape with altitude
2008-02-03 20:46 < Xihix> Sort of cool they decided to show the first preview of Wall E during the Super Bowl
2008-02-03 20:48 < Stormscape> Well, barring all that, I say we just do "those damn punks" things
2008-02-03 20:48 < Stormscape> like slash all the tires of the vehicles outside
2008-02-03 20:48 < SWATJester> are we slashing patriots fans tires?
2008-02-03 20:48 < SWATJester> because that'd be ok with me
2008-02-03 20:49 < Stormscape> Everybody's
2008-02-03 20:49 < Stormscape> tour buses, cars, RVs
2008-02-03 20:49 < SWATJester> only if they have patriots bumper stickers or signs
2008-02-03 20:50 < brown_cat_nap> O_o
2008-02-03 20:50 < brown_cat_nap> ARGHH!!!!!
2008-02-03 20:50 * brown_cat_nap runs to save his toast from the toaster
2008-02-03 20:52 < Xihix> baby is stupid
2008-02-03 20:53 < ggreer> sign of the bubble: .coms buying superbowl commercials
2008-02-03 20:54 < brown_cat_nap> mmhhhhmmmm, <3 toast
2008-02-03 20:54 < Messedrocker> PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!
2008-02-03 20:54 < Messedrocker> oh shit get the fuck out of here hey what are you doing get the fuck out of here you stupid idiot fuck we're all dead get the fuck out!
2008-02-03 20:55 < brown_cat_nap> O_o
2008-02-03 20:55 * brown_cat_nap cuddles Messedrocker
2008-02-03 20:55 < Messedrocker> (no, Sc_STC, that's not addressed at you)
2008-02-03 20:55 < Nakon> Messedrocker: http://imageftw.com/uploads/20080203/jgmf6qsqfjgi4bfhf674uwzaq6.jpg
2008-02-03 20:57 < Xihix> YES
2008-02-03 20:57 < Xihix> my article was promoted
2008-02-03 20:58 < White_Cat> it isnt your article
2008-02-03 20:58 < White_Cat> it is mine!
2008-02-03 20:58 * White_Cat hugs it possesively
2008-02-03 20:58 < White_Cat> Xihix all your articles are belong to us
2008-02-03 20:58 < White_Cat> more like me
2008-02-03 20:59 < Xihix> :(
2008-02-03 20:59 < Gwern-away> I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. it's the only way to be sure
2008-02-03 20:59 < White_Cat> U+ME=US
2008-02-03 20:59 < White_Cat> therefore ME=U(S-1)
2008-02-03 21:00 < Messedrocker> hmmm
2008-02-03 21:00 < White_Cat> or
2008-02-03 21:00 < Messedrocker> which interface is also called ATA?
2008-02-03 21:00 < ancjr> IDE
2008-02-03 21:00 < Messedrocker> ATA = IDE
2008-02-03 21:00 < White_Cat> ME=U(S-(sin(x))^2-(cos(x))^2)
2008-02-03 21:00 < Messedrocker> that's right
2008-02-03 21:00 < Messedrocker> thank you
2008-02-03 21:01 < Messedrocker> doesn't PATA = ATA?
2008-02-03 21:01 < ancjr> EIDE even
2008-02-03 21:01 < SJFriedl> PATA = ATA = EIDE but != SATA
2008-02-03 21:02 < Gwern-away> thought PATA was SCSI's ATA interface, or something nuts like that
2008-02-03 21:02 < Messedrocker> danke!
2008-02-03 21:02 < SJFriedl> PATA = ATA = IDE = EIDE
2008-02-03 21:02 < Messedrocker> well isn't EIDE a version of IDE?
2008-02-03 21:02 < SJFriedl> yes
2008-02-03 21:02 < SJFriedl> SATA is to IDE as SAS is to SCSI
2008-02-03 21:02 < Messedrocker> is EIDE backwards compatible with IDE?
2008-02-03 21:02 < SWATJester> www.server-quest.com
2008-02-03 21:02 < ancjr> {{AT_Attachment}}
2008-02-03 21:02 < SJFriedl> *IDE are all the old kind. None to do with scsi
2008-02-03 21:03 < SJFriedl> SAS = Serial Attached SCSI. Uses the same connector as SATA but diff protocol
2008-02-03 21:03 < Xihix> you shipping me?
2008-02-03 21:05 < Xihix> was there a commercial with "What Is Love"?
2008-02-03 21:06 < brown_cat_nap> hee hee hee
2008-02-03 21:07 < Xihix> oh my
2008-02-03 21:09 < brown_cat_nap> Xihix: a milk ad?
2008-02-03 21:10 < NotACow> SJFriedl: actually, IDE sorta has to do with SCSI. ATAPI, which is used for CD-ROMs and other purposes, is SCSI over IDE.
2008-02-03 21:11 < Messedrocker> god damn alphabet soup!
2008-02-03 21:11 < Xihix> yay
2008-02-03 21:11 < SWATJester> GO GIANTS
2008-02-03 21:11 < NilsE> "The top rate of income tax was 95% in the UK in the sixties, as recorded in Taxman"
2008-02-03 21:11 < NilsE> WHAAA?
2008-02-03 21:11 < wmarsh> yeah
2008-02-03 21:12 < wmarsh> that's why Michael Jackson owns all the Beatles songs
2008-02-03 21:12 < SJFriedl> NotACow - hmmm. This smells more like it used a few SCSI commands rather than being real-deal SCSI. This is the first I've ever heard of it
2008-02-03 21:12 < NilsE> I simply refuse to believe that any country, at any point, has had a tax over 50%.
2008-02-03 21:12 < NilsE> wmarsh: He does?
2008-02-03 21:12 < wmarsh> I dunno about 95% but it was very high
2008-02-03 21:12 < wmarsh> NilsE: I think France has a rate over 50% at the highest level even today
2008-02-03 21:12 < bumm13> I don't think he owns them anymore
2008-02-03 21:12 < SJFriedl> that's certainly a *marginal* tax rate, where the rate applies only to amounts of <$N>
2008-02-03 21:12 < NilsE> Gleh...
2008-02-03 21:12 < wmarsh> NilsE: Well maybe not any more, but famously in the 1980s he bought the rights
2008-02-03 21:13 < NilsE> It would be criminal to pay that kind of tax.
2008-02-03 21:13 < NilsE> Morally criminal.
2008-02-03 21:13 < SJFriedl> it's likely criminal *not* to
2008-02-03 21:13 < SJFriedl> :-)
2008-02-03 21:13 < Messedrocker> now, a disk drive that uses ATA/EIDE/PATA: inherently bad thing considering today's technology?
2008-02-03 21:13 < wmarsh> which he was able to do because the Beatles somehow spun off the publishing right royalties into some seperate corporation for tax reasons in the 1960s
2008-02-03 21:13 < wmarsh> at least as I recall
2008-02-03 21:14 < wmarsh> so now it costs like $2 million to use a song by The Beatles in a movie
2008-02-03 21:14 < NilsE> o_O
2008-02-03 21:14 < NilsE> Wat.
2008-02-03 21:14 < NilsE> Michael Jackson wants that kind of money?
2008-02-03 21:14 < wmarsh> I think he sold most of his stake by now
2008-02-03 21:14 < bumm13> I don't think he has those rights anymore
2008-02-03 21:14 < bumm13> yeah
2008-02-03 21:14 < NilsE> Two... million... dollars.
2008-02-03 21:15 < wmarsh> Don't quote me on that
2008-02-03 21:15 < NilsE> That reminds me... how do they measure how much money to pay for songs in movies? Same as for radio?
2008-02-03 21:15 < NilsE> Expected sales?
2008-02-03 21:16 < wmarsh> no... the people with the rights set the price as far as I know
2008-02-03 21:16 < wmarsh> hence some movies like "Dazed and Confused" spent more on the soundtrack rights than every other cost of the film combined
2008-02-03 21:16 < ronabop> http://www.ascap.com/filmtv/faq.html
2008-02-03 21:16 < Messedrocker> ass cap
2008-02-03 21:17 < kenlyric> and sometimes they only pay for broadcast rights.
2008-02-03 21:17 < wmarsh> ronabop: that was a very punctual FAQ
2008-02-03 21:17 < kenlyric> which is why the songs don't appear on DVD
2008-02-03 21:17 < Gwern-away> wait, I thought the Beatles catalog was just about the only valuable thing jackson still owned
2008-02-03 21:18 < NilsE> And his songs which will make him money until he dies?
2008-02-03 21:18 < wmarsh> he might own 50% of the publishing rights still
2008-02-03 21:18 < NilsE> I wonder what kind of money Michael Jackson and other big artists get from radio playbacks.
2008-02-03 21:18 < wmarsh> Beatles songs are vastly more marketable longterm than Michael Jackson songs, I'd guess
2008-02-03 21:18 < NilsE> $1/day? $50/day?
2008-02-03 21:18 * Mike_H , last night, dreamt of San Pedro
2008-02-03 21:18 * Mike_H flamenco dances
2008-02-03 21:19 < bumm13> o.o
2008-02-03 21:20 < NilsE> 95% tax... what a hell.
2008-02-03 21:20 < wmarsh> this is a boring game...
2008-02-03 21:20 < bumm13> low scoring
2008-02-03 21:20 < NilsE> The government better pays for food and water and electricity and healthcare and...
2008-02-03 21:20 < NilsE> wmarsh: What game?
2008-02-03 21:20 < wmarsh> super bowl
2008-02-03 21:20 < NilsE> What did they get for 95% taxes?
2008-02-03 21:20 < bumm13> the international checkers/draughts championship
2008-02-03 21:20 < NilsE> Basically you got "pocket change" left over...
2008-02-03 21:21 < wmarsh> NilsE: A welfare state, I think. But everyone was a swinger then... I guess that made it worthwhile.
2008-02-03 21:21 < wmarsh> at least this is what I learned from "Austen Powers"
2008-02-03 21:21 < NilsE> Did the government drive home to your house with fresh food every day?
2008-02-03 21:21 < ronabop> If I was making a hundred million dollars a year, how the heck would I manage to live on only 5 million dollars a year?
2008-02-03 21:22 < wmarsh> I doubt anyone bothered making that much money a year with taxes like that
2008-02-03 21:22 < NilsE> United Arab Emirates must be a paradise to live in. 0% taxes BOTH for companies AND people.
2008-02-03 21:22 < SJFriedl> but no booze
2008-02-03 21:23 < NilsE> You have to pay everything yourself, I guess.
2008-02-03 21:23 < Gwern-away> NilsE: a paradise for the few natives. for everyone else, those oil sheikdoms suck donkey balls
2008-02-03 21:23 < NilsE> Pay for the road outside your house. :S :)
2008-02-03 21:23 < Gwern-away> did you read about the case of the french teen who was being prosecuted for getting homosexually raped?
2008-02-03 21:23 < ronabop> Want a hospital? Pay for it.
2008-02-03 21:23 < NilsE> So... those rich oile sheiks... they basically got rich because of Westerners wanting lots and lots of gas?
2008-02-03 21:23 < Gwern-away> or about the constant deaths of the immigrants who actually run places like Qatar or Oman?
2008-02-03 21:24 < ronabop> French Teen?
2008-02-03 21:24 < Gwern-away> I had an uncle who worked in Saudi Arabia. great pay, but it was so terrible he vowed never to go back. you could see the transformation in just a few letters - before he went, he didn't dislike arabs at all. but soon he was teaching us new vocabulary.
2008-02-03 21:25 * Gwern-away particularly liked 'sand nigger'
2008-02-03 21:25 < Messedrocker> so what does he have against arabs?
2008-02-03 21:25 < NilsE> The JavaScript HTML table sorter on Wikipedia is severely broken.
2008-02-03 21:25 < Cyrius> my dad worked in Saudi Arabia for a while
2008-02-03 21:26 < NilsE> What did your dad and your uncle work with there?
2008-02-03 21:26 < Gwern-away> Messedrocker: I guess he didn't like them or how he was treated. I wasn't over there with him, so I can't rightly say what the true cause is
2008-02-03 21:26 < Cyrius> he doesn't talk about the experience
2008-02-03 21:26 < bumm13> why not?
2008-02-03 21:26 < Gwern-away> just my uncle. he's vague about it - some sort of security job I gathered
2008-02-03 21:26 < Cyrius> probably because they tried to kill him
2008-02-03 21:26 < bumm13> o.o
2008-02-03 21:27 < ronabop> I had a Saudi boss, once. Never again.
2008-02-03 21:27 < bumm13> why would they want to kill their workers?
2008-02-03 21:27 < bumm13> (foreign contractors)
2008-02-03 21:27 < Cyrius> it wasn't the company, it was some nuts
2008-02-03 21:27 < bumm13> hmm
2008-02-03 21:27 < loader> traditions maybe :)
2008-02-03 21:27 < Gwern-away> bumm13: because it's easier and cheaper than treating them right, they can be assholes, and there are so many more willing to work
2008-02-03 21:28 < loader> why he did work for them?
2008-02-03 21:28 < Cyrius> my dad was a well-paid ExxonMobil employee
2008-02-03 21:28 < Cyrius> who wanted the extra money for working overseas
2008-02-03 21:28 < Gwern-away> my uncle claimed that the native arab groups in the arabian peninsula are incredibly egotistic and xenophobic (that is, think very highly of themselves and consider all other peoples shitheads. albeit maybe shitheads with money and tech, if you follow me)
2008-02-03 21:29 < Cyrius> my dad is probably only alive because he had to go to the bathroom
2008-02-03 21:29 < loader> My friend forks in Arab Emirates. And he is satisfied with work
2008-02-03 21:29 < loader> *works
2008-02-03 21:29 < NilsE> I always get pissed off when I see rich people in poor countries.
2008-02-03 21:30 < Cyrius> http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=44420&d=6&m=5&y=2004
2008-02-03 21:30 < Cyrius> all of them his coworkers
2008-02-03 21:30 < Xihix> question
2008-02-03 21:30 < Xihix> would it be controversial if I nominated [[The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson]] for main page of the day on Sept. 11?
2008-02-03 21:30 < Cyrius> probably
2008-02-03 21:31 < Xihix> ... I think I'll do it.
2008-02-03 21:31 < Nakon> Xihix: lol
2008-02-03 21:31 < Cyrius> most people wouldn't care, but the ones who would care would make a lot of noise
2008-02-03 21:31 < Gwern-away> EPIC LULZ
2008-02-03 21:31 < Messedrocker> it's just like how white americans lynched black americans
2008-02-03 21:31 < Messedrocker> Xihix, yes
2008-02-03 21:31 < Cyrius> iirc, the canadian on that list also died
2008-02-03 21:31 < bumm13> the Arab world simply isn't very safe for Westerners
2008-02-03 21:32 < bumm13> (their safety cannot be guaranteed)
2008-02-03 21:32 < Xihix> I think I will. I'll note that "This is a sign that we have moved on from the tragic attacks"
2008-02-03 21:32 < Xihix> I think people wouldn't care then.
2008-02-03 21:32 < NilsE> Why did white USAians not make native Americans their slaves instead of black people from a whole other continent? Seems like a shitload of extra work to me.
2008-02-03 21:32 < Cyrius> "The five dead were among some 50 foreigners working on a project to upgrade an oil refinery run jointly by Saudi Basic Industries Corporation and Exxon Mobil in Yanbu..."
2008-02-03 21:32 < bumm13> NilsE: they did try that
2008-02-03 21:32 < loader> <Cyrius> It is sad to me... I'm about what is written on that page.
2008-02-03 21:32 < Xihix> Nils - Natives had more power
2008-02-03 21:32 < bumm13> it just didn't work well
2008-02-03 21:33 < Cyrius> loader: do what?
2008-02-03 21:33 < NilsE> Hmm...
2008-02-03 21:33 < OverlordQ> OH jesus christ, going to troll this channel too NilsE?
2008-02-03 21:33 < bumm13> of course
2008-02-03 21:33 < NilsE> OverlordQ: Are you insane? Hint: Yes.
2008-02-03 21:33 < Gwern-away> NilsE: the amerindians didn't handle the tropic conditions and diseases as well as blacks
2008-02-03 21:33 < bumm13> NilsE: that's not very civil, please refrain from ad hominems
2008-02-03 21:33 < loader> hmm... i don't understand expression 'do what'
2008-02-03 21:34 < Cyrius> loader: I did not understand your statement
2008-02-03 21:34 < Cyrius> "I'm about what is written on that page."
2008-02-03 21:34 < loader> I sorry about it http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=44420&d=6&m=5&y=2004
2008-02-03 21:34 < Cyrius> I can't make sense of that
2008-02-03 21:34 < loader> i meant your link
2008-02-03 21:35 < loader> sorry for misunderstanding
2008-02-03 21:35 < Cyrius> it was a stressful morning
2008-02-03 21:35 < NilsE> Gwern-away: Sorry? The natives were... native. Surely they were more fit to live and work there?
2008-02-03 21:35 < NilsE> I suppose the "indians" were better warriors.
2008-02-03 21:35 < loader> I'm future engeneer and I don't know where I can be... And what surprise fate is prepared for me.
2008-02-03 21:36 < Cyrius> I woke up, opened my email, loaded the news, saw the attack before the email loaded with "I'm ok"
2008-02-03 21:37 < Gwern-away> NilsE: why would you think that? conditions on plantations were not the conditions they were 'native' too, not even if you discount changed diet and new diseases
2008-02-03 21:37 < Gwern-away> *'native' to
2008-02-03 21:37 < Gwern-away> fitness is a subtle concept
2008-02-03 21:38 < ronabop> ...especially when you wipe out the population with smallpox.
2008-02-03 21:38 < Messedrocker> and smallcox
2008-02-03 21:39 < Gwern-away> the blacks notoriously suffered from bigcox, which gave them a future fitness advantage in the porn industry
2008-02-03 21:39 < Krimpet> Messedrocker, you'd better go into quarantine then. :/
2008-02-03 21:39 < NilsE> I'm still amazed by how communications worked before telephones and similar techniques.
2008-02-03 21:39 < Gwern-away> when I was a very young child, I blew my mind when I cam across a copy of Richard Burton's 1001 Arabian Nights
2008-02-03 21:39 < NilsE> It must have felt rewarding to have a pigeon return with an answer.
2008-02-03 21:39 < loader> Bye everybody.
2008-02-03 21:40 < Messedrocker> how much would you pay for an external bluray burner / hard drive that you didn't have to plug in?
2008-02-03 21:40 < Gwern-away> specifically, when I read the opening of how the king become disatisfied with his wife and her adultery, and more specifically the scholarly footnote discursing on africans and their (large) penises and the advantages appurtaining
2008-02-03 21:41 < Gwern-away> for a innocent young kid, this was truly shocking material.
2008-02-03 21:41 < Gwern-away> looking back, I realize that's why Burton's unexpurgated edition was such a success/scandal among the victorians
2008-02-03 21:42 < Gwern-away> (it's hard to understand that mentality now, which is why I value that memory)
2008-02-03 21:43 < NilsE> What's wrong with huge penises?
2008-02-03 21:43 < Xihix> they're scary
2008-02-03 21:43 < Xihix> like
2008-02-03 21:43 < Xihix> BAM! in your face.
2008-02-03 21:43 < Gwern-away> pow! right in the kissah!
2008-02-03 21:45 < Mark_Ryan> Gwern-away: peanut butter jelly time?
2008-02-03 21:45 * Mike_H pets privatemusings
2008-02-03 21:45 < Xihix> jesus, how does that not hurt the guy's nipples?
2008-02-03 21:45 < privatemusings> g'day mike!
2008-02-03 21:45 < Mike_H> <NilsE> What's wrong with huge penises?
2008-02-03 21:45 < Mike_H> Nothing.
2008-02-03 21:45 < Mike_H> Nothing at all.
2008-02-03 21:45 * privatemusings wonders what he's stumbled into.....
2008-02-03 21:46 < Gwern-away> Mark_Ryan: i can has cheezburger?
2008-02-03 21:46 < Messedrocker> how do you make a button that executes a certain command on a computer
2008-02-03 21:46 < Messedrocker> like what equipment would you need
2008-02-03 21:46 < Gwern-away> a button? that you actually push physically?
2008-02-03 21:46 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-02-03 21:46 * Gwern-away would buy a keyboard. you'd get like 103 keys for free!
2008-02-03 21:46 < privatemusings> just an old keyboard
2008-02-03 21:47 < privatemusings> rip it apart and bung something on top
2008-02-03 21:47 < Messedrocker> good point
2008-02-03 21:47 < privatemusings> it's pretty simple....
2008-02-03 21:47 < Messedrocker> but how would you program said keys to do something else
2008-02-03 21:47 < Mark_Ryan> my laptop comes with hotkey-creating software
2008-02-03 21:47 < privatemusings> hotkeys
2008-02-03 21:47 < SJFriedl> try F1 ?
2008-02-03 21:48 < Gwern-away> depends on what OS and 'where' my key would be running
2008-02-03 21:48 < Mark_Ryan> you can make hot keys to shortcuts in Windows, Messedrocker
2008-02-03 21:48 < Messedrocker> and is it possible for two computers to interface with each other over USB