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2008-02-03 01:20 < IceSPRITE> I was friendly for emo /Sorry my english is bad
2008-02-03 01:21 < The359> Unless you plan to actually prevent people from editing because of something a bot picks up
2008-02-03 01:21 < The359> It wont prevent a damn thing
2008-02-03 01:21 < The359> stop people from editing, make that
2008-02-03 01:21 < The359> If it's a warning, we already have warnings on the edit pages
2008-02-03 01:21 < The359> They don't stop anything
2008-02-03 01:22 < triona> The359: send them to the show changes screen instead of saving every time there's a problem.
2008-02-03 01:22 < triona> highlight the problems on that screen
2008-02-03 01:22 < The359> How does that stop anything?
2008-02-03 01:23 < IceSPRITE> Ok
2008-02-03 01:23 < The359> You'll still have to give them the opition of a "Save Anyway" button
2008-02-03 01:23 < triona> provide a checkbox to ignore the problem for the problems that are dismissable.
2008-02-03 01:23 < The359> which they'll just use
2008-02-03 01:23 < The359> Checkboxes, bad idea
2008-02-03 01:23 < The359> Who wants all that work for false positive
2008-02-03 01:23 < IceSPRITE> my program no Virca:D
2008-02-03 01:23 < The359> Wikipedias in other langauges already require users to view a preview of their changes before an edit is saved. Doesn't stop anything
2008-02-03 01:24 < triona> The359: I'm not convinced it would be that many false positives.
2008-02-03 01:25 < The359> If you're going to attempt to have a bot warn about things such as "Weasel words"
2008-02-03 01:25 < The359> you will
2008-02-03 01:25 < IceSPRITE> who say me Channel FOR PUNKS
2008-02-03 01:25 < triona> and, you can give logged in users the option to turn off certian categories of warnings.
2008-02-03 01:25 < nokram> OMGOMGOMG you said "most"! OMGOMGOMG
2008-02-03 01:25 < The359> You think vandals don't register?
2008-02-03 01:25 < triona> They do sometimes.
2008-02-03 01:26 < nokram> wheels
2008-02-03 01:26 < triona> The "convenience" of vandalizing from an IP keeps them from doing so in large numbers.
2008-02-03 01:26 < The359> Unless you physically deny them the ability to save their edit, you wont stop anything
2008-02-03 01:26 < The359> Since when do vandals do anything for convenience?
2008-02-03 01:26 < rory096> The359: it obviously wouldnt stop vandals, but it could cause people making honest mistakes to realize them and correct them
2008-02-03 01:27 < The359> I don't think so
2008-02-03 01:27 < The359> As I said
2008-02-03 01:27 * jeremyb grumbles at [[Fannypack]] still having the PROD comment after the PROD was removed
2008-02-03 01:27 < nokram> people wouldn't create a table just to realize that they added by 2 instead of 1
2008-02-03 01:27 < The359> who really reads the warnings on editing pages?
2008-02-03 01:27 < nokram> I do
2008-02-03 01:27 < The359> loser
2008-02-03 01:27 < nokram> =P
2008-02-03 01:27 < The359> And forcing editors to view a preview of their changes, that's fine
2008-02-03 01:27 * IceSPRITE HEY SAY ME PLEASE CHANNEL FOR PUNKS
2008-02-03 01:27 < nokram> I usually preview whenever anything with complex syntax is involved
2008-02-03 01:27 < triona> you could also give the bots and rc patrollers an extra red flag via the RC feed
2008-02-03 01:27 < The359> As I said, other Wikipedias do that
2008-02-03 01:27 < nokram> forcing previews is super lame.
2008-02-03 01:28 < The359> But requiring check boxes and forcing them to change something before their edit can be saved
2008-02-03 01:28 < triona> A "warnings were dismissed" flag
2008-02-03 01:28 < The359> Never
2008-02-03 01:28 < jeremyb> oooh, i don't think i've ever seen an animated tux before
2008-02-03 01:28 < jeremyb> http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/torvalds/linux_logo.gif
2008-02-03 01:28 < rory096> jeremyb: my mind. it's blown.
2008-02-03 01:29 < Gwern-away> rory096: can you feel it going?
2008-02-03 01:29 < The359> And if you allow editors to turn it off if they're registered, then any serious editor will have it off anyway
2008-02-03 01:29 < The359> Because how many serious editors are there that aren't registered?
2008-02-03 01:29 * Gwern-away hums a tune that sounds suspiciously like 'Daisy, daisy, give me your answer do...
2008-02-03 01:29 < rory096> Gwern-away: heh
2008-02-03 01:29 < rory096> i just watched that movie the other day
2008-02-03 01:29 < nokram> I remember one
2008-02-03 01:29 < nokram> his/her talk page was bigger than mine was
2008-02-03 01:30 < triona> The359: serious editors usually don't make good faith edits that completely trash article quality either.
2008-02-03 01:30 < rory096> nokram: 68.something
2008-02-03 01:30 < nokram> yeah, that one
2008-02-03 01:30 < nokram> the one who doesn't want a userpage
2008-02-03 01:30 < rory096> right
2008-02-03 01:30 < Gwern-away> one of these days I will get around to 2010 either the novel or movie
2008-02-03 01:30 < rory096> he was active in cvu or vcn or whatever they call it now
2008-02-03 01:30 < The359> HAL just celebrated his 16th/11th birthday a few weeks ago
2008-02-03 01:31 < The359> novel > movie, Gwern
2008-02-03 01:31 < triona> You could do something like AWB does. Put links in the diff to "undo" that part of the edit.
2008-02-03 01:31 < nokram> why does everybody here have a cloak except me T_T
2008-02-03 01:31 < The359> In the book, HAL became operational on January 12, 1997 (1992 in the movie)
2008-02-03 01:31 < rory096> wait, it's cvn now? what does that even mean?
2008-02-03 01:31 < Gwern-away> nokram: the rest of us are paranoid?
2008-02-03 01:32 < nokram> well, I'm getting a cloak too
2008-02-03 01:32 < triona> so, you show a diff in the preview, then you let the user click links in the diff view to resolve the issues.
2008-02-03 01:32 < The359> I think a diff is enough for someone to figure out
2008-02-03 01:33 < The359> Attempting to get a bot to recognize weasel words or something is just bound for failure
2008-02-03 01:33 < The359> and annoyance
2008-02-03 01:33 < triona> what about spelling?
2008-02-03 01:33 < triona> or.... ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
2008-02-03 01:33 < The359> Acronyms?
2008-02-03 01:33 < The359> Intentionally misspelled words?
2008-02-03 01:33 < triona> or '''Bold text'''
2008-02-03 01:33 < The359> Since when has any Spell Checker been perfect?
2008-02-03 01:34 < rory096> triona: that's already on the countervandalism bot's watchlist
2008-02-03 01:34 < triona> rory096: but why should the edit form even save that.
2008-02-03 01:35 < triona> There may be one article in all of articlespace that legitimately uses that.
2008-02-03 01:36 < triona> Actually. Let the user dismiss the warnings via the edit summary. Much cleaner interface that way.
2008-02-03 01:36 < rory096> that would require they learn commands and whatever to operate it
2008-02-03 01:36 < rory096> which would be bad for new users
2008-02-03 01:37 < The359> And edit summaries have limited space
2008-02-03 01:37 < triona> Don't necessarily have to have the whole summary though.
2008-02-03 01:38 < The359> Need room for summarizing though
2008-02-03 01:39 < triona> and if it takes the user a minute to figure out how to add "fuck" to [[Abraham Lincoln]], all the better.
2008-02-03 01:39 < The359> wont stop them from doing it anyway
2008-02-03 01:39 < The359> So not really all the better
2008-02-03 01:40 < triona> no, it won't
2008-02-03 01:40 < triona> makes them work harder though
2008-02-03 01:40 < nokmar> how do you configure chatzilla to auto-login?
2008-02-03 01:40 < The359> While also making the work of legitimate editors more difficult as well
2008-02-03 01:40 < nokmar> if you make it hard for new users
2008-02-03 01:40 < triona> and if we make them work harder while our ability to revert them stays the same, then the balence of work stays the same.
2008-02-03 01:40 < nokmar> the new users might not join
2008-02-03 01:41 < triona> ok, just add a new pseudoxml wikimarkup
2008-02-03 01:41 < rory096> nokmar: lists -> autoperform, add msg nickserv identify password
2008-02-03 01:41 < The359> we already have enough markup to learn
2008-02-03 01:41 < triona> <notanerror></notanerror>
2008-02-03 01:41 < rory096> markup = bad
2008-02-03 01:41 < Gwern-away> triona: assuming there are no toher effects... see, the funny thing about reducing contributions is that you reduce contributions
2008-02-03 01:41 < triona> The edit form eats that markup, but in the process the checker ignores what's inside it.
2008-02-03 01:42 < Gwern-away> it's hard to find a way sufficiently and acceptably biased to not discouraging good and discouraging bad
2008-02-03 01:43 < triona> Gwern-away: Good faith contributions of a very low quality can be as bad as vandalism.
2008-02-03 01:43 < triona> They have the same disruptive effect of making the article look bad.
2008-02-03 01:44 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Early_Universal_Century_Mobile_weapons WTF
2008-02-03 01:44 < The359> Who let the anime/Gundam nerds go crazy with creating articles
2008-02-03 01:44 < Gwern-away> dude, gundam is all about the weapons
2008-02-03 01:44 < kylu> wow. o.o
2008-02-03 01:45 < Gwern-away> in a literal way, those series were funded for their effects on sales of those weapons
2008-02-03 01:45 < Gwern-away> I wouldn't even want to guess at how many millions of model sales in aggregate that template represents
2008-02-03 01:46 < rory096> holy fuck
2008-02-03 01:46 < rory096> that's insane
2008-02-03 01:47 < Splish> Excuse me, it is possible for a restuarant to be open 25 hours?
2008-02-03 01:48 < kylu> hm... well, they could have an hour where they give food away for free, maybe?
2008-02-03 01:48 < Gwern-away> sure
2008-02-03 01:48 < Gwern-away> they just stay open for 25 hours, is all
2008-02-03 01:48 < kylu> you know, it doesn't have to be earth-days, really.
2008-02-03 01:49 < kylu> could be a martian resteraunt
2008-02-03 01:50 < Splish> heh
2008-02-03 01:50 < rory096> to sleep i'm going
2008-02-03 01:50 < rory096> night everyone
2008-02-03 01:50 < Splish> i'M reading the news about the montreal subway
2008-02-03 01:51 < Splish> they said that they cannot have anti suicide doors
2008-02-03 01:52 < kylu> why not?
2008-02-03 01:52 < kylu> ...
2008-02-03 01:52 < kylu> whoops, late
2008-02-03 01:52 < Tony_Sidaway> They have those on the Jubilee Line extension (the most recently built section of the Tube) in London, but nowhere else on the Underground.
2008-02-03 02:01 * brown_cat does a sommersalt and lands on PeanutHorst's lap
2008-02-03 02:02 < NCC-1701-E> I almost attacked Jimbo with a banhammer O_O
2008-02-03 02:02 < brown_cat> NCC-1701-E: you should, he is a child ***********
2008-02-03 02:03 < NCC-1701-E> SACRILEGE~
2008-02-03 02:03 < nokmar> well, he has virtually no clue what's going on
2008-02-03 02:04 * nokmar remembers Jimbo's Mafia rouge-admin spree
2008-02-03 02:06 < The359> fuck
2008-02-03 02:06 < The359> who thought it was a nice idea to put all that code on the DYK picture?
2008-02-03 02:06 < The359> it's massive
2008-02-03 02:08 < AdamBishop> hmm, on Sharezaa, search results give usernames from #wikipedia
2008-02-03 02:08 < AdamBishop> I assume that's bad for my computer
2008-02-03 02:10 < The359> very
2008-02-03 02:10 < AdamBishop> how bad?
2008-02-03 02:10 < The359> better start saving up for a new one bad
2008-02-03 02:11 < AdamBishop> is that so.
2008-02-03 02:11 * The359 shrug
2008-02-03 02:11 < The359> wtf do I know?
2008-02-03 02:11 < AdamBishop> NOTHING!
2008-02-03 02:11 < jeremyb> AdamBishop: i don't follow... when you search for something? what shows up?
2008-02-03 02:12 < The359> sounds like a memory leak?
2008-02-03 02:12 < AdamBishop> it gives the names of the users who have the file, and they are names from #wikipedia
2008-02-03 02:13 < jeremyb> AdamBishop: what file?
2008-02-03 02:14 < AdamBishop> in this case, Rock Star by Nickelback
2008-02-03 02:15 < jeremyb> hrmm
2008-02-03 02:15 < The359> Is Sharezaa supposed to be searching on IRC?
2008-02-03 02:15 < jeremyb> so everyone in the chan is also listed there? or just a few?
2008-02-03 02:15 < jeremyb> The359: no it's just gnutella iirc
2008-02-03 02:15 < AdamBishop> it's from #wikipedia from years ago too...Ahoerstmeier, MagnusManske
2008-02-03 02:16 < rory|zzz> AdamBishop: maybe wikipedians are pirates?
2008-02-03 02:16 < rory|zzz> wait, why aren't i sleeping?
2008-02-03 02:17 < jeremyb> AdamBishop: so if you try like half-dozen random searches they all have wiki names?
2008-02-03 02:17 * ronabop hits rory with the Sleephammer
2008-02-03 02:17 < JessicaTaylor> Hello
2008-02-03 02:17 < nokmar> hello
2008-02-03 02:18 < JessicaTaylor> Hi
2008-02-03 02:18 < AdamBishop> yup
2008-02-03 02:18 * jeremyb doesn't see how this could possibly be anything other than a coincidence unless AdamBishop was specifically being targetted
2008-02-03 02:18 < nokmar> Hola
2008-02-03 02:18 < AdamBishop> RickK and UncleG also show up
2008-02-03 02:18 < rory|zzz> lmao
2008-02-03 02:18 < rory|zzz> that's bizarre
2008-02-03 02:18 < AdamBishop> all those files are crap files, of course
2008-02-03 02:25 < jeremyb> hehe, my first wiki midair with rollback tool
2008-02-03 02:25 < jeremyb> (triona)
2008-02-03 02:44 < LuciferTiger> this channel is DEAD
2008-02-03 02:45 * Pumpmeup begs to differ
2008-02-03 02:45 < Gwern-away> BRAINS
2008-02-03 02:45 * zero1328 uses a phoenix down on #wikipedia
2008-02-03 02:47 * zero1328 casts raze on #wikipedia
2008-02-03 02:47 < zero1328> uh
2008-02-03 02:47 * zero1328 casts raise on #wikipedia
2008-02-03 02:48 * LuciferTiger casts #wikipedia down to the depths of... oh wait.. its already there
2008-02-03 02:48 < LuciferTiger> my bad
2008-02-03 03:01 < Random832> lol zero1328
2008-02-03 03:01 < Random832> big difference between raise and raze
2008-02-03 03:02 < zero1328> Yes, I know, that's part of the joke
2008-02-03 03:03 < zero1328> It's another Final Fantasy reference.. there's this black magic called Raze, and white magic called Raise, and they're polar opposites
2008-02-03 03:06 < Dodde_> is there a tool to supervise changes, even bot changes, like the RSS feed for non-bot-changes? IRC on wikimedia.org server just leave me guessing that a (+34) is a correct edit
2008-02-03 03:17 < jeremyb> Dodde: you can get an rss feed for any type of changes i think... IRC +34 should be 34 chars added to the article iirc
2008-02-03 03:20 < Dodde> jeremyb: yes I know what was what I meant, I don't know what the change is, only that the difference in size is 34 chars... but tell me more about the RSS feed, how can I customize this?
2008-02-03 03:24 < jeremyb> Dodde: it seems many querystring params are ignored for feed output
2008-02-03 03:24 < jeremyb> namespace, bot hiding, etc.
2008-02-03 03:24 < Dodde> yes, unfortunately :(
2008-02-03 03:25 < Dodde> maybe the feature is taking up much server resources
2008-02-03 03:26 < jeremyb> no, allowing that would improve server resources
2008-02-03 03:26 < jeremyb> of course only if it's actually used and most wouldn't figure out how to make those changes i'm guessing
2008-02-03 03:27 < jeremyb> Dodde: many ppl use tools that grab the IRC feed or something produced from the IRC feed and then automatically grab the diff and analyze/display for you
2008-02-03 03:28 < Dodde> jeremyb: but irc only gives a diff-link and a sizedifference number... that's not enough to actually see what is happening
2008-02-03 03:29 < Dodde> ah ok, I understand what you mean...
2008-02-03 03:29 < jeremyb> Dodde: i'm not saying *you* should watch it... i'm describing what common tools do
2008-02-03 03:29 < jeremyb> :)
2008-02-03 03:29 < jeremyb> anyway past time for sleep
2008-02-03 03:29 < Dodde> so... then my question again is: is there any of these tools out there for me to use?
2008-02-03 03:30 < Dodde> I have looked around a bit, but haven't found any tools for monitoring.. maybe I have checked the wrong places
2008-02-03 03:31 < NCC-1701-E> hello fanof2g1c4life
2008-02-03 03:31 < fanof2g1c4life> hi ncc
2008-02-03 03:32 < jeremyb> [[Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools]] ?
2008-02-03 03:59 < NedScott> I really wish I could go into people's heads and see what they think of me
2008-02-03 03:59 < brown_cat> NedScott: I can tell you in two words :)
2008-02-03 04:00 < Rinn> I really wish I could control time.
2008-02-03 04:00 * brown_cat gives Rinn a flux capacitor :)
2008-02-03 04:00 < AdamBishop> that wouldn't work, you would just see mushy brain stuff
2008-02-03 04:00 < NedScott> browncat: is asshole considered two words?
2008-02-03 04:00 < Rinn> That's not time control. That's time travel.
2008-02-03 04:00 < NedScott> maybe it can be used for both
2008-02-03 04:00 < brown_cat> NedScott: yes :)
2008-02-03 04:00 < Rinn> Time control is a lot more dangerous.
2008-02-03 04:01 < brown_cat> Rinn: you can controll the way you travel time :)
2008-02-03 04:01 * FastLizard4 has to go to bed now, good night!
2008-02-03 04:01 < Rinn> For example, I'm going to slow time around my head now and
2008-02-03 04:01 * Rinn dies
2008-02-03 04:01 < NedScott> do you think I'm an asshole, or do you think other people think I'm an asshole?
2008-02-03 04:01 < NedScott> or both?
2008-02-03 04:01 < Rinn> I think your name is Ned Scott.
2008-02-03 04:01 < Rinn> Or Nedwin Scott.
2008-02-03 04:02 * brown_cat cuddles NedScott
2008-02-03 04:02 * FastLizard4 sprays brown_cat with water before going to bed
2008-02-03 04:03 * brown_cat kicks the bullcrap out of FastLizard4 >:D
2008-02-03 04:03 < FastLizard4> 'night brown_cat
2008-02-03 04:03 < brown_cat> nite :
2008-02-03 04:03 < brown_cat> D
2008-02-03 04:03 * brown_cat cuddles FastLizard4 :D
2008-02-03 04:03 < NedScott> but I guess my concern really isn't if people think I'm an asshole or not
2008-02-03 04:03 < FastLizard4> brown_cat: Get back in #code-snippets too, you'll miss all the fun!
2008-02-03 04:04 < NedScott> more of my intelligence
2008-02-03 04:04 < NedScott> or
2008-02-03 04:04 < NedScott> behavior
2008-02-03 04:04 < brown_cat> NedScott seems reasonably intelligent - he is able to self evaluate well ;)
2008-02-03 04:04 < Rinn> I'm the type of person you hate.
2008-02-03 04:04 < NedScott> what... is love..
2008-02-03 04:04 < Rinn> If I see someone I admire, I never tell them. :D
2008-02-03 04:05 * brown_cat looks at the calendar
2008-02-03 04:05 < brown_cat> O_o Valentines day is coming up
2008-02-03 04:05 < brown_cat> Rinn: will you be my valentine?
2008-02-03 04:05 < NedScott> to get to the point, someone is preemptively calling WP:POINT on me -before- anything is done
2008-02-03 04:05 * brown_cat showers Rinn in chocolate and flowers
2008-02-03 04:05 * Rinn is allergic to flowers and doesn't like chocolate
2008-02-03 04:05 < Rinn> Unless it's white chocolate.
2008-02-03 04:05 < NedScott> and I'm more insulted at the accusation that I would sink that low than anything
2008-02-03 04:05 < arcimboldo_> Fortunately in Japan it's the women who give me chocolate on Valentine's day.
2008-02-03 04:06 < brown_cat> Rinn: they were fake flowers and white chocolat
2008-02-03 04:07 * Rinn 's valentine is a cat another year in a row!
2008-02-03 04:09 < brown_cat> Rinn: I am a cat in a human's body
2008-02-03 04:09 * brown_cat is freaked out by himself - he is a guy pretending to be a cat who thinks he is a guy O_O
2008-02-03 04:10 < AdamBishop> furry!
2008-02-03 04:10 * AdamBishop microwaves brown_cat
2008-02-03 04:10 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-02-03 04:10 * Rinn gets safety goggles
2008-02-03 04:10 * brown_cat smashes the glass
2008-02-03 04:10 * brown_cat runs out
2008-02-03 04:10 * brown_cat sits on AdamBishop's lap
2008-02-03 04:10 < AdamBishop> I saw some furries at a fast food restaurant once...it was very odd
2008-02-03 04:17 * Kjoonlee waits for a tabby_cat to sit on his lap
2008-02-03 04:18 * brown_cat jumps onto Kjoonlee's lao
2008-02-03 04:18 < brown_cat> *lap
2008-02-03 04:18 * brown_cat isn't a tabby though :)
2008-02-03 04:18 < Kjoonlee> *stroke* *stroke*
2008-02-03 04:18 < brown_cat> :D
2008-02-03 04:19 * brown_cat likes Kjoonlee more then AdamBishop :D
2008-02-03 04:22 < Tronic> I need to upload a screenshot of a GPL'ed program (that I am a developer of). Which license buttons should I click?
2008-02-03 04:22 < Tronic> "It is a screenshot ..." seems to assume that the source is non-free.
2008-02-03 04:26 < Kjoonlee> Tronic: GPL should be fine, I think
2008-02-03 04:27 < Kjoonlee> Tronic: see for example [[Image:Emacs-screenshot.png]]
2008-02-03 04:28 < Tronic> Kjoonlee: How can I choose that in Wikipedia?
2008-02-03 04:29 < Tronic> The upload forms are confusing.
2008-02-03 04:29 < triona> You may have to select something close, and then edit the resulting page
2008-02-03 04:31 < Kjoonlee> Tronic: I agree they are a bit confusing... it's easy to edit, though
2008-02-03 04:31 < Kjoonlee> Tronic: I think the closest would be to start with "
2008-02-03 04:31 < Kjoonlee> "Work from someone else"
2008-02-03 04:31 < Kjoonlee> and then add {{GPL}} to the description
2008-02-03 04:33 < Kjoonlee> ( with "None selected" as licensing. You add licensing manually with {{GPL}} )
2008-02-03 04:33 < Kjoonlee> Eek, it's the same if you choose "your own work"
2008-02-03 04:34 < Mike_H> triona: I'm so excited :)
2008-02-03 04:39 < Tronic> Kjoonlee: Ok, I think I got it right :)
2008-02-03 04:39 < Kjoonlee> Tronic: yay :)
2008-02-03 05:10 < Zenwhat> Can anybody here help me with automated editing? I have a worthwhile project.
2008-02-03 05:13 < Zenwhat> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Need_to_populate_a_new_list_for_Wikipedia:Bots.2FStatus
2008-02-03 05:31 < Warpath> oh noes :O
2008-02-03 05:41 < White_Cat> I sense an infidel in seacrh of answers
2008-02-03 05:41 * White_Cat eyes Warpath
2008-02-03 05:42 < White_Cat> how are you infidel?
2008-02-03 05:44 * White_Cat licks Warpath
2008-02-03 05:44 < slashem> must one be an infidel to search for answers?
2008-02-03 05:44 * Warpath nods
2008-02-03 05:44 < White_Cat> yes
2008-02-03 05:44 < slashem> then I am proud to be an infidel
2008-02-03 05:44 < White_Cat> because noninfidels know all the answers
2008-02-03 05:44 < slashem> indeed
2008-02-03 05:44 < White_Cat> blasphimers are to be executed
2008-02-03 05:45 < slashem> am I a heretic as well?
2008-02-03 05:45 * White_Cat executes you a bit with a large trout
2008-02-03 05:45 < White_Cat> no
2008-02-03 05:45 < White_Cat> herecy has been purged
2008-02-03 05:45 * slashem falls into the river
2008-02-03 05:45 < White_Cat> what river?
2008-02-03 05:45 * brown_cat waves to White_Cat
2008-02-03 05:45 < slashem> isn
2008-02-03 05:45 < slashem> isn't that a river he falls into in the skit?
2008-02-03 05:45 < slashem> like the Thames or something?
2008-02-03 05:46 < geniice> sueing chickipedia for blantent copyright violation in 5...4...3....2...
2008-02-03 05:46 < White_Cat> mm
2008-02-03 05:46 < White_Cat> www.chikipedia.org ?
2008-02-03 05:47 < geniice> slashem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddington_Lock
2008-02-03 05:47 < White_Cat> This domain is under construction.
2008-02-03 05:47 < geniice> White_Cat .com
2008-02-03 05:47 < White_Cat> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
2008-02-03 05:47 < slashem> sorry geniice, why am I reading this?
2008-02-03 05:48 < geniice> slashem that is what Palin fell into
2008-02-03 05:48 < slashem> oh I did not know -- does it say so in the article?
2008-02-03 05:48 < slashem> aha it does
2008-02-03 05:48 < White_Cat> This page is provided courtesy of GoDaddy.com. Copyright ® 1999-2008 GoDaddy.com, Inc. All rights reserved.
2008-02-03 05:49 < geniice> http://www.chickipedia.com/index.php/Main_Page
2008-02-03 05:49 < geniice> photos are clearly copyvios
2008-02-03 05:50 < slashem> oh shit I love this!
2008-02-03 05:50 < White_Cat> what are you guys looking at?
2008-02-03 05:50 < Mentifisto> porn?
2008-02-03 05:50 < geniice> no
2008-02-03 05:51 < slashem> soft-core
2008-02-03 05:51 < Kjoonlee> White_Cat: White_Cat, meet brown_cat.
2008-02-03 05:51 < Kjoonlee> brown_cat: brown_cat, meet White_Cat.
2008-02-03 05:51 * brown_cat cuddles White_Cat
2008-02-03 05:51 < brown_cat> Kjoonlee: I copied White_Cat :p
2008-02-03 05:51 < slashem> brown_cat is a slut
2008-02-03 05:52 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-02-03 05:52 < brown_cat> you are describing someone I know
2008-02-03 05:52 < slashem> this chickipedia is us-centric
2008-02-03 05:52 < slashem> any chickipedia that doesn't include sophie ellis-bextor is hopelessly american
2008-02-03 05:54 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ellis-bextoratgay.jpg
2008-02-03 05:54 < slashem> nice legs but hate the dress
2008-02-03 05:54 < slashem> there are some much better pix but likely all copyvios
2008-02-03 05:55 < White_Cat> mmmm
2008-02-03 05:55 < brown_cat> slashem: I know a good one :D
2008-02-03 05:55 < brown_cat> slashem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Michele_Merkin_1.jpg
2008-02-03 05:55 < slashem> http://www.chickipedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ArticleImageGallery/Kylie_Minogue&sort=page_counter
2008-02-03 05:56 < slashem> oh yeah, this was the one durova used as a good example of how to work with Wikipedia
2008-02-03 05:56 < geniice> brown_cat> it's shopped
2008-02-03 05:57 < brown_cat> geniice: what is shopped? :s
2008-02-03 05:57 < geniice> brown_cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/Image:Michele_Merkin_1.jpg
2008-02-03 05:59 < slashem> I like this one, even though you can't see her awesome body: http://img.search.com/thumb/4/46/Sophie_ellis_bextor_1.jpg/225px-Sophie_ellis_bextor_1.jpg
2008-02-03 06:00 < cimon> Ellis Bextor is a real lady... after my own heart...
2008-02-03 06:00 < White_Cat> mmm
2008-02-03 06:00 < White_Cat> shpping
2008-02-03 06:01 * White_Cat feels very very lonely
2008-02-03 06:01 < cimon> slashem: I nearly wet my pants when Ellis Bextor presented the European MTV Music award for the finnish rappers Bomfunk MC.
2008-02-03 06:01 < White_Cat> cimon you dont feel so lady like up close
2008-02-03 06:01 < slashem> damn, I need to see that -- youtube?
2008-02-03 06:01 * White_Cat sells cimon's wet pants on ebay
2008-02-03 06:01 < cimon> Ellis Bextor asked the lead rapper of the band: "Will you bomfunk me?"
2008-02-03 06:02 < bumm13> :s
2008-02-03 06:02 < slashem> hahahaha
2008-02-03 06:04 < geniice> oh aparently wikipedia wears a bow tie
2008-02-03 06:04 < geniice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDSRHrurNGQ
2008-02-03 06:04 < slashem> I've listened to bextor's last album something like thirty times -- this week
2008-02-03 06:04 < cimon> what was best was the usually ubercool lead singer of Bomfunk MC visibly blushed...
2008-02-03 06:04 < slashem> omg
2008-02-03 06:06 < slashem> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXBeb-9pUrc&NR=1
2008-02-03 06:07 < White_Cat> Jimbo should wear a bowtie now on
2008-02-03 06:08 < Rinn> I wish I could get away with wearing a bowtie.
2008-02-03 06:08 < geniice> I thinkhis wife might have something to say about that
2008-02-03 06:08 < White_Cat> geniice about jimbo wearing a bowtie?
2008-02-03 06:08 < geniice> if it was inspired by the video yes
2008-02-03 06:08 < White_Cat> since when your wife has a say in the foundation?
2008-02-03 06:10 < geniice> oh and wikipedia has never fuggin heard of Amber Hay
2008-02-03 06:10 < White_Cat> mmm
2008-02-03 06:11 < geniice> but we do have new wikipetan
2008-02-03 06:11 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan
2008-02-03 06:11 < White_Cat> I have an idea
2008-02-03 06:11 < White_Cat> make jimbo dress up like wikipetan
2008-02-03 06:12 < White_Cat> a dress would look good on him
2008-02-03 06:12 < Paine> psst
2008-02-03 06:12 < geniice> I feel one is enough for now
2008-02-03 06:12 < geniice> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikipe-tan_%28Cosplay%29.jpg
2008-02-03 06:12 < Paine> someone mind checking something out for me? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270207515634
2008-02-03 06:12 < Paine> geniice: that's scary
2008-02-03 06:12 < White_Cat> mm
2008-02-03 06:13 * White_Cat nominates geniice for wikipe-tan cosplay
2008-02-03 06:13 < geniice> Paine it appears to be a laptop
2008-02-03 06:13 < triona> I'd do it, but I'm not cute enough.
2008-02-03 06:13 < Paine> geniice: I meant.. money vs. specs+reliability..
2008-02-03 06:13 < geniice> it's a laptop so no
2008-02-03 06:20 < geniice> what is up with that DYK image?
2008-02-03 06:30 * brown_cat takes off his pants
2008-02-03 06:30 * brown_cat rubs up against Kjoonlee
2008-02-03 06:32 * Kjoonlee rolls a ball of string at brown_cat
2008-02-03 06:32 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-02-03 06:32 * brown_cat follows the string
2008-02-03 06:33 * brown_cat rolls around with the ball of yarn
2008-02-03 06:33 < slashem> put your pants on if you're going to do that
2008-02-03 06:34 < cimon> Lol, I am looking at the sun reflected by a window, my computer screen and filtered through my curtain and my sunglasses, and still it is way too bright... Maybe I am a vampire...
2008-02-03 06:34 < brown_cat> slashem: I hate wearing pants -_-
2008-02-03 06:35 < brown_cat> cimon: no, it means you need to work on your tan
2008-02-03 06:35 < Simon-> cimon: or you need betetr curtains
2008-02-03 06:35 < slashem> I got rid of my window
2008-02-03 06:35 < Simon-> that seems a bit drastic
2008-02-03 06:36 < cimon> brr, it is nearly zero centigrade out there, (32 fahrenheit for the rest f you)
2008-02-03 06:37 < cimon> Simon-: I have a crappy curtain on this side, because the sun shines in through this side once in a blue moon, basically only this time of year and this time of day, when the angles are just right to catch the window accross the way.
2008-02-03 06:37 < Simon-> that happened to me in the summer - I bought a new curtain ;)
2008-02-03 06:37 < Mentifisto> Where is it nearly zero?
2008-02-03 06:38 < cimon> Helsinki, Finland.
2008-02-03 06:38 < Mentifisto> Ah yeah, Scandinavia is always cold. :-)
2008-02-03 06:38 < vonerich> hello
2008-02-03 06:38 < cimon> if fact it is unseasonably warm, but still, not weather to go bikini-dipping in, unless you are one of the perverts, of which we sadly have an abundance of...
2008-02-03 06:39 < Mentifisto> Ha
2008-02-03 06:39 * cimon wonders if wikipedia has an article on winter ice-swimmers...
2008-02-03 06:40 < slashem> well, if it doesn't, I expect you to write it
2008-02-03 06:40 < encoded> is it me or is wikipedia down?
2008-02-03 06:41 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_swimming
2008-02-03 06:41 < cimon> awesome
2008-02-03 06:41 < vonerich> i think wikipedia will end up becoming a sovereign nation
2008-02-03 06:41 < vonerich> in 50 years
2008-02-03 06:42 < cimon> not much of an article but a start...
2008-02-03 06:43 * encoded curses the inter tubes!!
2008-02-03 06:47 < mavhc> well in a few years they'll be members of the UN with no land
2008-02-03 06:48 < vonerich> thats a start
2008-02-03 06:48 < vonerich> although wiki is above the UN
2008-02-03 06:48 < mavhc> so it's possible after that to argue that you're a nation even without land
2008-02-03 06:48 < vonerich> the UN is fallible wiki isn't
2008-02-03 06:48 < vonerich> wiki constantly endeavors to update for accuracy
2008-02-03 06:48 < vonerich> it'll be a vatican city type thing
2008-02-03 06:49 < geniice> the revolution may not be telivised but it will be wikified
2008-02-03 06:49 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_N%27Djamena_%282008%29
2008-02-03 06:49 < geniice> vatican city is not a memeber of the UN
2008-02-03 06:50 < mavhc> or the EU, being a theocracy
2008-02-03 06:50 < slashem> wiki isn't fallible?
2008-02-03 06:51 < sancer> siema
2008-02-03 06:51 < sancer> jak tam
2008-02-03 06:51 < encoded> no parle .pl
2008-02-03 06:51 < sancer> ha
2008-02-03 06:51 < slashem> sorry, I don't speak polish
2008-02-03 06:52 < sancer> and what
2008-02-03 06:52 < sancer> ?
2008-02-03 06:52 < vonerich> kak dela
2008-02-03 06:52 < sancer> but I speak polish
2008-02-03 06:52 < sancer> too
2008-02-03 06:53 < vonerich> are you polish
2008-02-03 06:53 < sancer> yes
2008-02-03 06:53 < vonerich> what city are you from
2008-02-03 06:54 < mavhc> polandski
2008-02-03 06:54 < vonerich> i like poland
2008-02-03 06:55 < vonerich> it has the pragmatism of the east without the pretense of the west
2008-02-03 06:55 < sancer> i from karczew
2008-02-03 06:56 < vonerich> thats in masovia
2008-02-03 06:56 < sancer> this is 30km from warsaw
2008-02-03 06:57 < vonerich> one of my ancestors was the minister of affairs for the duke of masovie in the 14th century
2008-02-03 06:57 < cimon> doesn't poland have a bit of bother with church and state?
2008-02-03 06:57 < eth01> where can i get those stars again
2008-02-03 06:57 < vonerich> maybe. i don't mind it cimon
2008-02-03 06:57 < cimon> vonerich: can you buy rubbers?
2008-02-03 06:57 < Mentifisto> omg look at the edit count of smackbot http://en.wikipedia.org/w/query.php?what=contribcounter&titles=User:SmackBot&format=yamlfm
2008-02-03 06:58 < vonerich> cimon of course
2008-02-03 06:58 < vonerich> polish people are very easy going europeans
2008-02-03 06:59 < sancer> namely
2008-02-03 06:59 < sancer> ?
2008-02-03 07:03 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> I just read the best novel I can remember.
2008-02-03 07:07 < nickhac> what was it tess
2008-02-03 07:08 < vonerich> ł
2008-02-03 07:08 * White_Cat slaps Warpath a bit with a large police box
2008-02-03 07:08 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> some book named Pet my girlfriend wrote. For the first time in my life I stayed up all night reading a novel in one sitting.
2008-02-03 07:09 < nickhac> thats a fair effort
2008-02-03 07:09 < nickhac> must have been interesting
2008-02-03 07:10 < nickhac> although i guess there would be more incentive to read a book your girlf wrote
2008-02-03 07:10 < nickhac> :)
2008-02-03 07:10 < geniice> true love that is
2008-02-03 07:10 < nickhac> sitting down through a whole book, let alone in one sitting
2008-02-03 07:11 < nickhac> i dont think i have read a whole book in the last 20 i have purchased from amazon
2008-02-03 07:11 < nickhac> get a few chapters in and a new one comes
2008-02-03 07:11 < vonerich> someone needs to inveset in a library card
2008-02-03 07:11 < nickhac> hehe
2008-02-03 07:11 < vonerich> i just got ten books from the library
2008-02-03 07:12 < nickhac> sweeet
2008-02-03 07:12 < nickhac> arent most books in a library old tho?
2008-02-03 07:12 < kies> i like buying books now for some reason
2008-02-03 07:12 < nickhac> and make you sneexe from the dust
2008-02-03 07:12 < vonerich> yeah whats wrong with that !
2008-02-03 07:12 < vonerich> i get books off google books too
2008-02-03 07:12 < nickhac> nothing :)
2008-02-03 07:12 < vonerich> i read books as old as i can get them
2008-02-03 07:13 < nickhac> the more falling apart the better
2008-02-03 07:13 < vonerich> lol
2008-02-03 07:13 < vonerich> well i have some old books off google books
2008-02-03 07:13 < vonerich> they stay in pdf form
2008-02-03 07:13 < geniice> I scan stuff if it is old enough
2008-02-03 07:13 < vonerich> good idea
2008-02-03 07:13 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> nickhac: perhaps bias got me to read it because it was hers, but bias won't do last night to me.
2008-02-03 07:14 < vonerich> i like older books to read
2008-02-03 07:14 < vonerich> they have a more prose feel
2008-02-03 07:14 < nickhac> speaking of old books... just saw a great doco on archemdies lost manuscripts
2008-02-03 07:14 < nickhac> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6622663022450689923
2008-02-03 07:15 < vonerich> i can move the earth w/a lever
2008-02-03 07:16 < vonerich> i think i saw this on pbs
2008-02-03 07:16 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> I've never even been able to stay up all night reading like that trying
2008-02-03 07:16 < nickhac> im in australia
2008-02-03 07:16 < nickhac> we dont get much interesing media on out 4 tv channels
2008-02-03 07:16 < nickhac> thank god for google vid
2008-02-03 07:17 < nickhac> tess: did you sleep
2008-02-03 07:17 < nickhac> or you pull an all nighter
2008-02-03 07:17 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> all nighter
2008-02-03 07:17 < nickhac> wow
2008-02-03 07:17 < nickhac> what time where you are?
2008-02-03 07:17 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> until last night my record on staying up with a novel was 4 AM
2008-02-03 07:17 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> it's about 7:15
2008-02-03 07:17 < nickhac> cool
2008-02-03 07:18 < nickhac> you need some modifanil
2008-02-03 07:18 < triona> Someone take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Crystalclearchanges
2008-02-03 07:18 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> I only wish it were longer.
2008-02-03 07:18 < Tess_Tiff_Myers> ah well
2008-02-03 07:19 < nickhac> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newscientist.com%2Farticle%2Fmg18925391.300&ei=L7GlR9-qCoOmpwSzhqXWBA&usg=AFQjCNHdPOGgZme-WEpvoGN65GM8BED-1Q&sig2=1fSEV6rpWdwz1CB_e7c1TQ
2008-02-03 07:19 < nickhac> argh
2008-02-03 07:19 < nickhac> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925391.300
2008-02-03 07:19 < nickhac> Get ready for 24 hour living
2008-02-03 07:20 < nickhac> anyone else still awake from last night?
2008-02-03 07:21 < nickhac> heheh
2008-02-03 07:21 < nickhac> good!
2008-02-03 07:21 < nickhac> its 10pm at night where i am
2008-02-03 07:21 < nickhac> what about you?
2008-02-03 07:22 < mavhc> nickhac: no, I'm old
2008-02-03 07:22 < vonerich> where are you nick
2008-02-03 07:22 < nickhac> sydney AU
2008-02-03 07:22 < vonerich> so its monday there?
2008-02-03 07:22 < nickhac> i havnt been on irc since 1998, this is my first time back
2008-02-03 07:22 < nickhac> im very excited
2008-02-03 07:22 < vonerich> welcome back
2008-02-03 07:23 < nickhac> its 11pm on sunday night
2008-02-03 07:23 < nickhac> ish
2008-02-03 07:23 < nickhac> thank you
2008-02-03 07:23 < vonerich> oh oops
2008-02-03 07:23 < nickhac> all my old channels and people are gone
2008-02-03 07:23 < nickhac> so yeah, lessons learned
2008-02-03 07:23 < nickhac> can you guys reccomend some interesing places to go
2008-02-03 07:23 < mavhc> rome
2008-02-03 07:24 < nickhac> hah! :P
2008-02-03 07:24 < mavhc> and remember when in rome....look at all the old buildings and stuff, there's loads of history there man
2008-02-03 07:24 < nickhac> ok
2008-02-03 07:24 < Mentifisto> nickhac: then you never came on 'freenode' before, right?
2008-02-03 07:25 < nickhac> nope
2008-02-03 07:25 < nickhac> i searched IRC channels and this came up on wikipedia
2008-02-03 07:25 < geniice> note for bris. When visiting foreign it is no longer considered polite to claim random bits of it for king and country
2008-02-03 07:25 < nickhac> so here i am
2008-02-03 07:26 < nickhac> whoo... almost made a terrible social blunder there
2008-02-03 07:27 < geniice> we need someone in N'Djamena like yesterday
2008-02-03 07:27 < mavhc> geniice: europeans
2008-02-03 07:27 < Misa__> Tell Ban Ki Moon
2008-02-03 07:27 < mavhc> we leave that to the americans now
2008-02-03 07:28 < Misa__> he's already heading to Kenya
2008-02-03 07:28 < nickhac> question: how can you search for channels... say im interested in physics or sql or an author or topic?
2008-02-03 07:28 < geniice> mavhc the french militry is in N'Djamena but that is only of limited use
2008-02-03 07:28 < nickhac> can anyone help me in private chat?
2008-02-03 07:29 < geniice> #sql ?
2008-02-03 07:29 < geniice> ##physics ?
2008-02-03 07:30 < nickhac> ok
2008-02-03 07:30 < geniice> this is aparently an american aid agency in N'Djamena but I'm not sure which one
2008-02-03 07:30 < nickhac> but is there a search feature?
2008-02-03 07:30 < geniice> and in any case all the expats have been evacuated
2008-02-03 07:30 < nickhac> to list how many peeps in each channel
2008-02-03 07:31 < geniice> ask at #freenode
2008-02-03 07:32 < nickhac> tnx :)
2008-02-03 07:33 < Mentifisto> nickhac: http://searchirc.com/ very useful
2008-02-03 07:33 < nickhac> awesome
2008-02-03 07:37 < vonerich> is it
2008-02-03 07:38 < Lubaf> Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Tae Kwan Leep. Approach me so that you might see.
2008-02-03 07:42 < vonerich> this video is cool nickhac
2008-02-03 07:42 < vonerich> thanks
2008-02-03 07:42 < nickhac> thats ok :) i found it veryi interesting
2008-02-03 07:42 < nickhac> watching again
2008-02-03 08:02 < cimon> anyone with understanding of the otrs volunteering process here?
2008-02-03 08:10 < vonerich> not i
2008-02-03 08:11 < Cometstyles> try #wikimedia-otrs ;)
2008-02-03 08:18 < Sfan00> hello
2008-02-03 08:18 < vonerich> hi
2008-02-03 08:26 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-02-03 08:53 < Mark_Away> god facebook's gone to shit since they started letting everyone in
2008-02-03 08:54 < Mark_Away> it's almost worth going back to MySpace
2008-02-03 08:54 < Cometstyles> XD
2008-02-03 08:54 < Mentifisto> it's even worse than myspace?
2008-02-03 08:54 < Mark_Away> "You've been bitten by a vampire! Click here to add this application and start biting chumps"
2008-02-03 08:54 < Mark_Away> "Before you can start using this application you have to invite 20 of your friends to add the application."
2008-02-03 08:55 < Mark_Away> "ARE YOU A MAN OR A WOMAN?" -- stupidest application ever
2008-02-03 08:57 < triona> Mark_Away: at least you don't have the hacked up CSS that makes most of the pages unreadable.
2008-02-03 08:57 < Mark_Away> triona: the hacked-up CSS making most MySpace pages unreadable is a good thing, as they are generally the MySpace pages not worth reading
2008-02-03 09:01 < triona> Mark_Away: That's probably true.
2008-02-03 09:02 < triona> Comparatively, it's pretty good though
2008-02-03 09:02 < triona> Although, facebook's new "applications" are making the SNR there worse :/
2008-02-03 09:04 < Mark_Away> it's spammy
2008-02-03 09:19 < Lubaf> SNR?
2008-02-03 09:19 < Lubaf> Stupid Newbie Ratio?
2008-02-03 09:19 < White_Cat> no