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2008-02-01 21:37 < Gwern-away> wikipedia runs on idle college students. And pigeons - lots of pigeons in the server rooms
2008-02-01 21:38 < kyorosuke> misery loves company eh
2008-02-01 21:38 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: I just came back from archery practice, but your point stands :)
2008-02-01 21:38 < kyorosuke> fun
2008-02-01 21:39 < arcimboldo_> Wrong.
2008-02-01 21:39 * Gwern-away did alright, but about half way through my left arm got dead tired and my scores started plummeting
2008-02-01 21:39 * arcimboldo_ is on a Saturday, in his house, doing nothing.
2008-02-01 21:39 < kyorosuke> aha, a fine distinction
2008-02-01 21:40 < kyorosuke> thank god we have time zones, or my train would be late all the time
2008-02-01 21:40 < Gwern-away> 'It's often misquoted, but when Bruce Schneier killed Julius Caesar for promoting weak cryptography he actually said, "Et tu, Bruce?"' <-- historically clever!
2008-02-01 21:40 < Xihix> Isn't everyone proud of me?
2008-02-01 21:40 < doomssassin> i just came back from smoking a cigarette and shooting a round of pool.
2008-02-01 21:41 < kyorosuke> are you my son?!
2008-02-01 21:41 < zero1328> ...Who are you?
2008-02-01 21:41 < Gwern-away> 'Bruce Schneier shaves with Occam's razor.'
2008-02-01 21:41 < Gwern-away> Xihix: I am proud of you in a disquieted 'why-are-you-talking-to-us' way
2008-02-01 21:41 < kyorosuke> shaving is never simple
2008-02-01 21:41 < Xihix> well
2008-02-01 21:41 < Xihix> Look at the front page
2008-02-01 21:41 < quanticle> FastLizard4|BRB: Huh? You called for me?
2008-02-01 21:41 < Xihix> anyone who has been on IRC for at least 8 months knows what I'm talking about
2008-02-01 21:41 < doomssassin> i feel stupid for having not gone to class today though. i had a migraine, but i've been absent for almost a week now.
2008-02-01 21:42 < kyorosuke> oh, you worked on the featured article?
2008-02-01 21:42 < kyorosuke> if so, cool
2008-02-01 21:42 < Xihix> more than that
2008-02-01 21:42 < Xihix> I annoyed the hell out of people
2008-02-01 21:42 < zero1328> I've been on IRC for over 8 months, but not the last 8 ones.
2008-02-01 21:42 < Xihix> and canvassed
2008-02-01 21:42 < Xihix> to get FAC comments
2008-02-01 21:42 < kyorosuke> you... raised it from the dead and gave it superpowers? Awesome!
2008-02-01 21:43 < The359> So what is there to be proud of
2008-02-01 21:43 < quanticle> Gwern-away: The phonograph record included on the Voyager probe contains a hidden watermark inserted by Bruce Schneier.
2008-02-01 21:43 < The359> if you annoyed the fuck out of us?
2008-02-01 21:43 < FastLizard4|BRB> quanticle: get back on #code-snippets
2008-02-01 21:43 < Xihix> well
2008-02-01 21:43 < The359> You get what you want and you're still fishing for more
2008-02-01 21:43 < Xihix> it's sort of a bittersweet thing
2008-02-01 21:43 < Xihix> you know
2008-02-01 21:43 < The359> Give it a fucking rest
2008-02-01 21:43 < Xihix> memories and such
2008-02-01 21:43 < Gwern-away> huh. dookie is an album?
2008-02-01 21:43 < quanticle> FastLizard4|BRB: Back
2008-02-01 21:43 * Gwern-away thought dookie meant... something else
2008-02-01 21:43 < FastLizard4|BRB> good
2008-02-01 21:43 < Xihix> I'm not fishing for anything?
2008-02-01 21:43 < The359> Yes you are
2008-02-01 21:43 < Xihix> for what?
2008-02-01 21:44 * brown_cat cuddles quanticle
2008-02-01 21:44 < The359> Something to stroke your ego with
2008-02-01 21:44 * quanticle huggles brown_cat
2008-02-01 21:44 < Xihix> I just came to say that an article that you guys helped me make FA is now on the main page
2008-02-01 21:44 < Xihix> I think you're just over reacting dude...
2008-02-01 21:44 < kyorosuke> yes yes very good
2008-02-01 21:44 < The359> No, you're just running your standard modus operandi
2008-02-01 21:44 < quanticle> Xihix: Which one?
2008-02-01 21:44 < Gwern-away> quanticle: when bruce schneier xors two streams, the output is always random
2008-02-01 21:44 < zero1328> Well I guess everyone needs an ego boost now and then
2008-02-01 21:44 < Xihix> err
2008-02-01 21:45 < Xihix> not really.
2008-02-01 21:45 < The359> Bullshit, "I cam to tell you guys that helped me"
2008-02-01 21:45 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Bruce Schneier wasn't born, he decrypted his way out of the womb.
2008-02-01 21:45 < Xihix> Again, I think you're over reacting.
2008-02-01 21:45 < The359> <Xihix> Isn't everyone proud of me? Where the hell is "thanks to all who helped"
2008-02-01 21:45 < The359> or anything like that?
2008-02-01 21:45 < The359> You're just in it for yourself
2008-02-01 21:45 < kyorosuke> now let's rescue mum, kill philip, get liz, go to the pub and wait for this whole thing to blow over
2008-02-01 21:45 < Xihix> Well, if you were one of the people who did
2008-02-01 21:45 < Xihix> you'd understand
2008-02-01 21:45 < quanticle> The359: Damn. Someone's bitter...
2008-02-01 21:46 < The359> no, just tired of this
2008-02-01 21:46 < Gwern-away> 'Muller's second attack on Helix is a distinguishing attack that requires 2^114 words of chosen plaintext.' <-- better avoid that cipher, schneier wouldn't even have to roundhouse kick it!
2008-02-01 21:46 < Xihix> no dude, I think you're overreacting a little. chill.
2008-02-01 21:46 < name_name> indeed
2008-02-01 21:46 < The359> No, you just don't like that someone is reacting negatively to your attention whoring
2008-02-01 21:46 < Mike_H> I agree with Xihix on this one.
2008-02-01 21:46 < Mike_H> The359: Sometimes it's nice to get a little recognition for things you do.
2008-02-01 21:47 < The359> Yes, nice
2008-02-01 21:47 < Xihix> I just came to say that an article I worked on is on the front page after a while.
2008-02-01 21:47 < zero1328> Like I said, people need an ego boost now and then
2008-02-01 21:47 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Its well known that Schneier broke AES using two feet of barbed wire, a rusty nail, and the front axle of a Ford Falcon.
2008-02-01 21:47 < The359> I'm all for someone being proud of something
2008-02-01 21:47 < The359> But if, as Xihix claims, he had help
2008-02-01 21:47 < Gwern-away> WP is very low on recognition
2008-02-01 21:47 < The359> He shouldn't be seeking appreciation just for him
2008-02-01 21:47 < Gwern-away> I couldn't even get my favorite article to FA, much less Main Page
2008-02-01 21:47 < Xihix> I had Golbez help me with copy editing.
2008-02-01 21:47 < Xihix> thats about it.
2008-02-01 21:47 < Gwern-away> I would've been thrilled with any mention on Main Page
2008-02-01 21:47 < Xihix> I worked on it myself otherwise.
2008-02-01 21:47 < kyorosuke> tell me about it
2008-02-01 21:48 < The359> If that's about it, what else were you doing when you bugged everyone to help push your shit through quicker?
2008-02-01 21:48 < kyorosuke> I got some DYKs
2008-02-01 21:48 < kyorosuke> but otherwise nothing
2008-02-01 21:48 < Gwern-away> quanticle: "Bruce Schneier once decrypted a box of AlphaBits."
2008-02-01 21:48 < Xihix> The359, that was like seven months ago. e.g. a while ago
2008-02-01 21:48 < Gwern-away> 'Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition.'
2008-02-01 21:48 < The359> No, it's been ongoing for seven months
2008-02-01 21:48 < Xihix> I don't constantly annoy people for reviewing anymore
2008-02-01 21:48 < The359> You do about Simpsons stuff now
2008-02-01 21:48 < The359> Same shit, different day
2008-02-01 21:48 < Xihix> especially since I found out recently that people got in trouble for it.
2008-02-01 21:48 < Xihix> no
2008-02-01 21:49 < Xihix> The last Simpsons GAC I had
2008-02-01 21:49 < Xihix> was in the GAC place for over a month
2008-02-01 21:49 < Xihix> month and a half
2008-02-01 21:49 < Xihix> before it got reviewed
2008-02-01 21:49 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Bruce Schneier can break elliptic curve cryptography by bending it into a circle.
2008-02-01 21:49 < The359> You've been bugging Ceiling Cat about where your article would be placed in line
2008-02-01 21:49 < Xihix> I asked him if he could give me a heads up when the request page cleared a little
2008-02-01 21:49 < Xihix> and then I asked last night if he thought he would, since he said a few days it might not
2008-02-01 21:49 < The359> No, you were asking for a specific day which someone else had already gotten
2008-02-01 21:50 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Bruce Schneier deduced the state of Schrodinger's cat. It is Oklahoma.
2008-02-01 21:50 < Xihix> That? I did that a while ago, but I was kidding.
2008-02-01 21:50 < Xihix> I already had talked to some people
2008-02-01 21:50 < Gwern-away> you know what I hate about Asian males? they can age so well. old caucasian men usually look uncool and like shit, but an old asian man?
2008-02-01 21:50 < The359> oh, that again
2008-02-01 21:50 < The359> "I was kidding"
2008-02-01 21:50 < Xihix> and I knew I couldn't do anything about it
2008-02-01 21:50 < The359> jesus
2008-02-01 21:50 < Gwern-away> quanticle: I already posted that one here :)
2008-02-01 21:50 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Only if the old asian dude has a beard.
2008-02-01 21:50 < Xihix> No, I already knew that I wanted the 2nd
2008-02-01 21:50 < zero1328> It's hard to convey sarcasm and jokes through text, and it's easy to take things the wrong way
2008-02-01 21:50 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: one word: Mako.
2008-02-01 21:50 < Xihix> thank you zero.
2008-02-01 21:51 < The359> You also weren't there, zero
2008-02-01 21:51 * quanticle goes back to working on Lisp code
2008-02-01 21:51 < zero1328> I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing, just putting in my two cents
2008-02-01 21:51 < Xihix> I joke differently than you may, The359. I usually take it pretty far before I make it clear that I was. I may just never make it clear at all.
2008-02-01 21:51 < The359> It wasn't a joke
2008-02-01 21:51 < Gwern-away> quanticle: well, alright, but no old caucasian men look kickass even with beards
2008-02-01 21:51 < The359> You pulled this "joke" excuse before
2008-02-01 21:51 < Xihix> It was.
2008-02-01 21:51 < Xihix> The359
2008-02-01 21:51 < Xihix> I'm not fucking stupid
2008-02-01 21:51 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: mako...? fish?
2008-02-01 21:52 < Xihix> I know that someone isn't going to give up their date
2008-02-01 21:52 < Xihix> or Raul change it
2008-02-01 21:52 < Xihix> I'm not an idiot
2008-02-01 21:52 < zero1328> If you did this joke excuse before, you should know that it's not a good idea to do such things
2008-02-01 21:52 < Mike_H> The359/Xihix
2008-02-01 21:52 < Mike_H> both of you stop
2008-02-01 21:52 < Xihix> First come, first served. and I was too late
2008-02-01 21:52 < Mike_H> really
2008-02-01 21:52 < Mike_H> Xihix: Don't take The359's bait.
2008-02-01 21:52 < The359> whatev, like I said, same shit, different day
2008-02-01 21:52 < Mike_H> The359: Stop acting like a child.
2008-02-01 21:52 < Xihix> Ok.
2008-02-01 21:52 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_%28actor%29
2008-02-01 21:52 < zero1328> Well, now I gotta find something else to alleviate my boredom
2008-02-01 21:53 < kyorosuke> he passed away, but he aged well
2008-02-01 21:53 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: no pic
2008-02-01 21:53 < Gwern-away> PICS UR IT DIDNAE HAPPEN
2008-02-01 21:53 < brown_cat> o_o
2008-02-01 21:53 < doomssassin> Wanna see a hilarious pic I took?
2008-02-01 21:53 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Bruce Schneier's online shopping is so secure, his cart is an M-1 tank.
2008-02-01 21:53 < brown_cat> is it of you
2008-02-01 21:54 < doomssassin> nope.
2008-02-01 21:54 < quanticle> doomssassin: What is it of then?
2008-02-01 21:54 < kyorosuke> anyway, if anime about talking foxes and half-demon swordsmen are an accurate depiction of life in Japan, then most old men are perverts
2008-02-01 21:54 < kyorosuke> genius fighting experts, maybe, but perverts nonetheless
2008-02-01 21:54 < Gwern-away> I believe that is a safe bet
2008-02-01 21:54 < The359> Most old men are perverts
2008-02-01 21:54 < doomssassin> A truck.
2008-02-01 21:54 < zero1328> They have to be old to be perverts?
2008-02-01 21:55 < MessedRocker> wow.
2008-02-01 21:55 < The359> No
2008-02-01 21:55 < The359> but they become more perverted with age
2008-02-01 21:55 < doomssassin> like the one on family guy.
2008-02-01 21:55 < The359> And experience
2008-02-01 21:55 < doomssassin> herbert the pervert.
2008-02-01 21:55 < Gwern-away> quanticle: Bruce Schneir knows Alice and Bob's shared secret - they had to get it from him
2008-02-01 21:55 < kyorosuke> generally I assume old people to be more or less identical to Master Roshi until proven otherwise
2008-02-01 21:56 < brown_cat> zero1328: if you want some perverts on the irc, go to ##kids
2008-02-01 21:56 < zero1328> no thank you o.o
2008-02-01 21:56 < The359> Yahoo chat rooms are full of them
2008-02-01 21:56 < kyorosuke> Ew.
2008-02-01 21:56 < The359> well, any chat room really
2008-02-01 21:56 < zero1328> hm I think Roshi means Master in Japanese..
2008-02-01 21:56 < The359> .......like this one
2008-02-01 21:56 < brown_cat> The359: I am actually a 60 year old priest O_o
2008-02-01 21:57 < The359> You wanna trade?
2008-02-01 21:57 < brown_cat> mecu goes to ecu un perth?
2008-02-01 21:57 < brown_cat> The359: O_o
2008-02-01 21:57 < brown_cat> *in
2008-02-01 21:57 < kyorosuke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muten-Roshi
2008-02-01 21:57 < MECU> no, Mecu went to CU and studied ME
2008-02-01 21:57 < brown_cat> :o
2008-02-01 21:58 < brown_cat> so I assume you are not very intelligent?
2008-02-01 21:58 < brown_cat> xD j/k
2008-02-01 21:58 < kyorosuke> "He is a stock character, as he is both the archetypal wise old man and dirty old man, the latter being typical of shōnen anime. Sometimes he gets cranky, which further provides comic relief."
2008-02-01 21:58 < kyorosuke> see, middle-aged men in a nutshell
2008-02-01 21:59 < zero1328> Hm I wonder if I can genetically engineer some kind of Fox-Squirrel..
2008-02-01 21:59 < Gwern-away> master roshi was not middle-aged...
2008-02-01 21:59 < Gwern-away> I'd like a cabbit better - cat/rabbit
2008-02-01 22:00 < kyorosuke> true
2008-02-01 22:01 < name_name> cabbit-urdays doesn't have the same ring as caturdays
2008-02-01 22:01 < zero1328> They're both anime references, name_name
2008-02-01 22:01 < Gwern-away> cabbiday
2008-02-01 22:02 < name_name> oh, I just saw cat/rabbit
2008-02-01 22:02 < name_name> ^^
2008-02-01 22:03 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Wasn't Ryo-oki a cabbit?
2008-02-01 22:03 < quanticle> Or is it spelled Ryo-ohki?
2008-02-01 22:03 < zero1328> That's what the reference is
2008-02-01 22:03 < Gwern-away> Ryo-Ohki was the first cabbit!
2008-02-01 22:03 < kyorosuke> a cabbit and a spaceship
2008-02-01 22:03 < kyorosuke> and thus much better than most
2008-02-01 22:04 < quanticle> kyrosuke: Not just any spaceship, either, a space PIRATE ship!
2008-02-01 22:04 < MessedRocker> space pirates!
2008-02-01 22:04 < MessedRocker> where?
2008-02-01 22:04 < kyorosuke> damn straight
2008-02-01 22:04 < quanticle> MessedRocker: Ryoko's after you again?
2008-02-01 22:05 < kyorosuke> the Masaki household?
2008-02-01 22:05 < Gwern-away> ah, she's a sweety. just take away her jewelry
2008-02-01 22:06 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Ryoko? Yeah. Ryoko's a softie at heart. Its Ayeka who's the coldhearted bitch.
2008-02-01 22:06 < Gwern-away> cold as the hibernation chamber
2008-02-01 22:07 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Colder. Now Washu is the enigma...
2008-02-01 22:07 < Gwern-away> washu is teh win!
2008-02-01 22:07 * Gwern-away hums quietly proton, synchotron...
2008-02-01 22:07 < quanticle> Gwern-away: She was kind of a mad scientist though...
2008-02-01 22:07 < Gwern-away> so?
2008-02-01 22:08 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Hmmm, mad scientist, crazy princess, or space pirate?
2008-02-01 22:08 < quanticle> I'd personally go for the space pirate.
2008-02-01 22:08 < Gwern-away> space pirate is too psychologically messed up
2008-02-01 22:09 < Gwern-away> plus, I never dug the whole 80s white hair look
2008-02-01 22:09 < kyorosuke> mad scientist
2008-02-01 22:10 < quanticle> Gwern-away: I think the space pirate is the least psychologically messed up one on that show.
2008-02-01 22:11 < Gwern-away> quanticle: ridiculous! tenchi's father is quite sane and stable, albeit lecherous
2008-02-01 22:11 < kyorosuke> see, just more proof
2008-02-01 22:11 < kyorosuke> anything with space pirates in must be an accurate reflection of life
2008-02-01 22:11 < Gwern-away> now, I'm not arguing craziest=Ryoko (I'd suggest Sasami) but she is definitely more crazy than Ayeka or Washu
2008-02-01 22:12 < kyorosuke> besides, though, isn't Tenshi pretty solid in the psyche department?
2008-02-01 22:12 < quanticle> Gwern-away: I'm saying that amongst the women, Ryoko is the stablest.
2008-02-01 22:12 < quanticle> kyorosuke: I had implicitly limited the discussion to the female characters.
2008-02-01 22:13 < kyorosuke> ah, ah
2008-02-01 22:13 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: maybe, but I'm betting the tensions of his harem life have eaten away at him in a way they don't for his father & grandfather
2008-02-01 22:13 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: oh, good point
2008-02-01 22:13 < Gwern-away> quanticle: is this OVA or universe? if the latter, kiyone doesn't have any mssed up parts iirc
2008-02-01 22:14 * Gwern-away excepts mihoshi. she's nuts too
2008-02-01 22:14 < kyorosuke> I can imagine Tenshi having an NGE style total mental breakdown (if it hasn't happened in some continuity already)
2008-02-01 22:14 < quanticle> Gwern-away: How is Mihoshi nuts? She's just a ditz.
2008-02-01 22:14 < quanticle> Gwern-away: I'm talking about the original Tenchi Muyo!
2008-02-01 22:14 < Gwern-away> quanticle: everywhere that she goes, madness follows
2008-02-01 22:16 < quanticle> Gwern-away: That's not necessarily a sign of insanity. Extreme incompetence could also cause that result.
2008-02-01 22:17 < Gwern-away> bah! its the seething madness of her mind seeping out
2008-02-01 22:18 < quanticle> Gwern-away: I see what you mean. Mihoshi could be so far gone that all that remains of an otherwise intelligent person is a stupid klutzy ditz.
2008-02-01 22:19 < Shiroi_Neko> Tenchi?
2008-02-01 22:19 < Gwern-away> quanticle: yes, like managing to score a 0 on an all true-false test
2008-02-01 22:19 < Shiroi_Neko> my god
2008-02-01 22:19 < Shiroi_Neko> I missed the Tenchi-rama?
2008-02-01 22:19 < Gwern-away> Shiroi_Neko: LOL DIDNT U HEAR OVA-3 CAME OUT A FEW YEARS AGO
2008-02-01 22:19 < Shiroi_Neko> Mihoshi is ecentric
2008-02-01 22:19 < Gwern-away> tenchi is ancient, but I enjoy discussing it
2008-02-01 22:19 < Shiroi_Neko> Gwern-away I seen it dear
2008-02-01 22:20 < kyorosuke> there's a distinct neophilia in anime fandom that bothers me
2008-02-01 22:20 < Leslie_S> heh, i chipped a fake gemstone on an earring after wearing it for like 3 days. wtf.
2008-02-01 22:20 < Gwern-away> if kajishima waits too long, no one will care any more whether it's a harem ending or which girl tenchi picks!
2008-02-01 22:20 < kyorosuke> I mean, aside from everything about anime fandom that bothers me
2008-02-01 22:20 < Leslie_S> damn that claire!
2008-02-01 22:20 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Yes, I've noticed it too.
2008-02-01 22:20 < Shiroi_Neko> Imagine wikipedia having an article on every episode of tenchi
2008-02-01 22:20 < Shiroi_Neko> something banned now
2008-02-01 22:20 < Shiroi_Neko> :P
2008-02-01 22:21 < Gwern-away> not too unreasonable. that'd be, what, a total of 50 including magical s sasami?
2008-02-01 22:21 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Unlike many anime fans I actually enjoy going back to older shows. Gundam Wing is still awesome.
2008-02-01 22:21 < kyorosuke> quanticle: very cool
2008-02-01 22:21 < quanticle> Gwern-away: How many Sasamis are there?
2008-02-01 22:22 < Gwern-away> quanticle: no, she had a spinoff or two series
2008-02-01 22:22 < Gwern-away> I forget the details
2008-02-01 22:22 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Of all the anime I've seen Gundam Wing still ranks pretty high in terms of overall plot convolution.
2008-02-01 22:22 < kyorosuke> Pretty Sammy is the longer one I think..
2008-02-01 22:23 < Gwern-away> I recently went and watched gundam wing. I couldn't understand it on Toonami, and I thought it was a lot more straightforward than it was
2008-02-01 22:23 < kyorosuke> quanticle: yeah, very true
2008-02-01 22:23 < kyorosuke> I still don't understand it
2008-02-01 22:23 < kyorosuke> I like it, but that doesn't mean that I understand it...
2008-02-01 22:23 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Its a lot more straightforward if you watch all the episodes consecutively over two days versus watching one a week on Toonami.
2008-02-01 22:25 < Gwern-away> yes, I guess so
2008-02-01 22:25 < kyorosuke> it was aired 5 days a week on Toonami for a time, I recall
2008-02-01 22:25 < Gwern-away> doesn't help with some series like FLCL though however you watch them
2008-02-01 22:25 < quanticle> kyorosuke: The overall outline isn't that hard to get. Earth and Space are fighting a war. The Gundams are sent as guerilla soldiers to cause havoc on Earth. While the Gundams go about their thing, the OZ organization overthrows the Earth military from within and sets up a world government. Then, when OZ institutes the mobile-dolls, the Treize faction within OZ starts a civil war.
2008-02-01 22:25 < quanticle> kyorosuke: See, simple! :-P
2008-02-01 22:26 < quanticle> Gwern-away: There are some series that are not supposed to make any sense.
2008-02-01 22:26 < kyorosuke> haha,
2008-02-01 22:26 < quanticle> Gwern-away: RahXephon is a good example of this.
2008-02-01 22:26 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: well, FLCL isn't supposed to make sense
2008-02-01 22:26 < kyorosuke> it's just supposed to have robots and panties and ramen and shit
2008-02-01 22:26 < Gwern-away> ok, so earth vs. gundams, then oz vs. earth vs. gundams, then oz vs. gundams, then oz vs oz vs gundams. clear!
2008-02-01 22:27 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Have you heard of Rosario+Vampire?
2008-02-01 22:27 < Gwern-away> quanticle: rahexphon makes perfect sense if you think of it as a musical sensible version o evangelion
2008-02-01 22:27 < kyorosuke> "earth vs. space" is the plot of every Gundam series
2008-02-01 22:27 < Gwern-away> quanticle: 'Pantsu-fest, yes'
2008-02-01 22:27 < kyorosuke> quanticle: I've heard of it, but I don't know much about it
2008-02-01 22:28 < quanticle> Gwern-away: RahXephon isn't sensible at all! Its the same crap as Evangelion, but with the Christianity reference replaced by musical/Norse/Egyptian/Maya references.
2008-02-01 22:28 < kyorosuke> well, the religious refs in Eva have no meaning at all
2008-02-01 22:28 < quanticle> Gwern-away: I watched two episodes of Rosa+Vam before I had to turn away.
2008-02-01 22:28 < Gwern-away> quanticle: too much fanservice?
2008-02-01 22:28 < quanticle> kyorosuke: And the musical refs in RahXephon don't have any meaning either.
2008-02-01 22:29 < quanticle> Gwern-away: No, overall plot inanity.
2008-02-01 22:29 < The359> First it was Star Trek roleplaying
2008-02-01 22:29 < The359> Now it's anime
2008-02-01 22:29 < The359> Nerd. Heaven.
2008-02-01 22:29 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: the religious elements help structure it, but it owes much more to philosophy and psychology than theology
2008-02-01 22:29 < quanticle> The359: Its not roleplaying. Its discussion.
2008-02-01 22:29 < The359> I didn't mean now
2008-02-01 22:29 < Gwern-away> when did we do star trek roleplaying in #wikipedia?
2008-02-01 22:30 < The359> about 2-3 hours ago
2008-02-01 22:30 < quanticle> The359: Was it roleplaying or discussion?
2008-02-01 22:30 < The359> roleplaying
2008-02-01 22:30 < The359> The Enterprise was here
2008-02-01 22:30 < kyorosuke> quanticle: unsurprising. I didn't love Evangelion all that much so I try to avoid the similiar post-modern/everyone needs a psychologist type mecha series
2008-02-01 22:30 < The359> there was lots of phaser fire
2008-02-01 22:30 < The359> etc
2008-02-01 22:30 < kyorosuke> Gurren-Laggan and Godannar are more my thing
2008-02-01 22:31 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Daytona1.jpg wow...
2008-02-01 22:31 < The359> How shitty
2008-02-01 22:31 < Gwern-away> gurren-lagann was awesome in its unabashed acceptance of the absurdities of shonen mecha
2008-02-01 22:31 < quanticle> kyorosuke: I watched RahXephon on the recommendation of someone who said that, "Its like Evangelion, only with a sensible ending."
2008-02-01 22:31 < quanticle> I <3 Gurren-Lagaan
2008-02-01 22:31 < Gwern-away> The359: {{sofixit}}
2008-02-01 22:31 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: Yeah. The specific religious references, like the names of the Angels, though? No real significance, just there to sound cool
2008-02-01 22:31 < kyorosuke> like the spanish in Bleach or something
2008-02-01 22:31 < The359> I don't have anything to draw an SVG
2008-02-01 22:31 < kyorosuke> but people need to read into it
2008-02-01 22:31 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Don't forget about the Magi supercomputers.
2008-02-01 22:32 < kyorosuke> yeah
2008-02-01 22:32 < Gwern-away> I mean, 'kick reason to the curb and surpass the impossible' pretty much makes clear 'you want logic in this series? f u, sit down and enjoy it'
2008-02-01 22:32 < kyorosuke> "the Marduk Institute" sort of has a meaning in the sense of child sacrifice... but not much else
2008-02-01 22:32 < quanticle> kyorosuke: I answered the names of the 3 magi as a trivia question once; all of my friends wondered how I knew their names since I'm not Christian.
2008-02-01 22:32 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: exactly
2008-02-01 22:32 < kyorosuke> quanticle: hahaha
2008-02-01 22:33 < quanticle> kyorosuke: I didn't say a word.
2008-02-01 22:33 < Gwern-away> quanticle: for bonus points - which christian denomination's names did you give them?
2008-02-01 22:33 < kyorosuke> anime: teaching armchair theology since 1996
2008-02-01 22:33 < JessicaTaylor> Hello everyone
2008-02-01 22:33 < JessicaTaylor> I went into that overflow place just then
2008-02-01 22:33 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: 1995
2008-02-01 22:33 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Heh. Brillant.
2008-02-01 22:33 < Demi> quanticle - i assume you explained that you had eaten a christian's brain and therefore absorbed his knowledge and power, in accordance with the beliefs of your people?
2008-02-01 22:34 < quanticle> Demi: No. I said that I'd read it somewhere, but your explanation is much cooler.
2008-02-01 22:35 * quanticle looks at the topic
2008-02-01 22:35 < kyorosuke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_Party_%28Angel_episode%29
2008-02-01 22:35 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Hmmm? What about it?
2008-02-01 22:36 < kyorosuke> brain eating is always a good plot device
2008-02-01 22:36 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Yeah. Isn't that what one of the villains on Heroes does?
2008-02-01 22:36 * quanticle doesn't watch network TV
2008-02-01 22:36 < kyorosuke> quanticle: In that episode, the villains (sort of) try to eat one of the main characters' brain. Demi's comment reminded me of it
2008-02-01 22:36 < kyorosuke> and yeah
2008-02-01 22:36 < kyorosuke> he kills them and steals their powers by eating their brains
2008-02-01 22:36 < kyorosuke> it's as ridiculous as it sounds
2008-02-01 22:37 < quanticle> kyorosuke: That is so overpowered, its hilarious.
2008-02-01 22:37 < Gwern-away> not for flatworms, iirc.
2008-02-01 22:37 < quanticle> Gwern-away: ?
2008-02-01 22:38 < Gwern-away> quanticle: I heard of a classic experiment using nematode worms or something where they made a bunch run a set mzae until they learned it, and then ground them up and fed them to their compatriot worms, and said compatriot worms then proceeded to crawl the mzae better than they should've
2008-02-01 22:38 < kyorosuke> The whole series is very much ripped from Chris Claremont's X-Men, only worse
2008-02-01 22:38 < kyorosuke> hahaha, wow
2008-02-01 22:39 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Yeah. That's what I figured. Heroes does remind me a lot of X-Men, only without Professor X and Magneto acting as leaders.
2008-02-01 22:41 < Demi> eating brains is pretty standard
2008-02-01 22:41 < quanticle> Demi: Yeah. Its a pretty standard zombie tactic.
2008-02-01 22:41 * Gwern-away liked Book of the New Sun and its brain eating
2008-02-01 22:41 < Shiroi_Neko> Gwern-away perhaps
2008-02-01 22:41 < Shiroi_Neko> but since there are no secondary sources
2008-02-01 22:41 < Shiroi_Neko> pwople will mass delete them as it stands
2008-02-01 22:41 < quanticle> Speaking of zombies, what's everyone's opinion of Hellsing?
2008-02-01 22:41 < Shiroi_Neko> as not one of them is "notable"
2008-02-01 22:42 < quanticle> I finally finished watching it today, and it really has a lot of loose threads.
2008-02-01 22:42 < kyorosuke> gmail wants me to buy "footwear for the otaku generation". Kill me now.
2008-02-01 22:42 < Gwern-away> quanticle: manga, tv, or ova?
2008-02-01 22:42 < Demi> i think in the future we'll see more cannibal content on the food network; an increase in bandwidth will mean more food channels to fill time for
2008-02-01 22:42 < Shiroi_Neko> quanticle I try not to think of hellsing
2008-02-01 22:42 < kyorosuke> still? I thought it was supposed to be better than the ova
2008-02-01 22:42 < Shiroi_Neko> tv and ova
2008-02-01 22:42 < quanticle> Gwern-away: TV and OVA.
2008-02-01 22:42 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: otaku don't need footwear! they never go anywahere
2008-02-01 22:42 < Shiroi_Neko> Gwern-away no
2008-02-01 22:43 < Shiroi_Neko> they go to the video store
2008-02-01 22:43 < Gwern-away> quanticle: TV is meh and superseded by OVA, OVA is a worthy adaptation of the good manga
2008-02-01 22:43 < Shiroi_Neko> to rent the thing
2008-02-01 22:43 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Its not as bad as my GMail, which offers to sell me "She strips for free" stripper poles when I'm looking at Dilbert comic strips.
2008-02-01 22:43 < Gwern-away> Shiroi_Neko: what is this 'video store' and 'renting' you speak of? is it some new torrent site?
2008-02-01 22:43 < kyorosuke> haha
2008-02-01 22:43 < Shiroi_Neko> Gwern-away real otakus go and rent them
2008-02-01 22:43 < Shiroi_Neko> in japan
2008-02-01 22:43 < kyorosuke> "slippers for the hikikomori generation"
2008-02-01 22:43 < Gwern-away> quanticle: with the caveat that the ova is incomplete and each episode is perhaps longer than is convenient and takes a very long time between releases
2008-02-01 22:43 < Shiroi_Neko> downloading is too slow if you think of it
2008-02-01 22:44 < quanticle> Shiroi_Neko: Its faster than waiting for the DVD.
2008-02-01 22:44 < Shiroi_Neko> how long does it take you to download an entire season?
2008-02-01 22:44 < Gwern-away> Shiroi_Neko: that's why you torrent several things at once and background stuff
2008-02-01 22:44 < Shiroi_Neko> quanticle you watch t on TV then
2008-02-01 22:44 < quanticle> Gwern-away: Linux screen is your friend in that regard.
2008-02-01 22:44 < Gwern-away> a few days
2008-02-01 22:45 < Gwern-away> quanticle: don't I know it! I actually have a clever shell function to open my rtorrent screen session or run a new on
2008-02-01 22:45 < quanticle> Shiroi_Neko: I guess. I guess you have the opportunity to do that since you're in Japan...
2008-02-01 22:45 * Shiroi_Neko slaps quanticle a bit with a large zampaktou
2008-02-01 22:45 < Shiroi_Neko> I am not in japan
2008-02-01 22:45 < quanticle> Shiroi_Neko: I'm talking about the otaku...
2008-02-01 22:45 * Gwern-away reflexively goes and visits vgcats.com
2008-02-01 22:45 < Shiroi_Neko> oh yes
2008-02-01 22:45 < kyorosuke> my problem is that I don't want to download something just to see if it's any good... watching it on TV would be much easier in that regard (aside from the commercials and the "not speaking Japanese" thing)
2008-02-01 22:45 < name_name> otaku-sama?
2008-02-01 22:45 < Demi> otaku is japanese for "big taco", right?
2008-02-01 22:46 < Shiroi_Neko> www.vgcats.com
2008-02-01 22:46 < name_name> meganeko = wears glasses
2008-02-01 22:46 < name_name> usually cute too
2008-02-01 22:46 < name_name> ^^
2008-02-01 22:46 < Gwern-away> Demi: more idiomatically, 'big kahuna'
2008-02-01 22:47 < kyorosuke> right now I'm only watching Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei and Clannad (and I'm behind on both of them, so..)
2008-02-01 22:47 < Demi> aha! unicode!
2008-02-01 22:48 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: how is sayonara? I've been thinking about watching it
2008-02-01 22:49 < zero1328> Hrm I wonder how KyoAni's gonna fit everything in the last 7 episodes..
2008-02-01 22:49 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: the first season is one of the most utterly bizarre things I've seen, ever. The humor is random and sometimes uneven, but it can be brilliantly funny if you can handle the sheer strangeness
2008-02-01 22:49 < zero1328> Either they rush it super fast or they make another season
2008-02-01 22:49 < kyorosuke> I heard talk that the second season of Haruhi would be delayed, possibly for that reason
2008-02-01 22:49 < Gwern-away> zero1328: clannad? is that what they were doing before haruhi 2?
2008-02-01 22:50 < kyorosuke> yeh
2008-02-01 22:50 < zero1328> wait.. I think it's 10 eps, not 7
2008-02-01 22:50 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: sounds worth a try
2008-02-01 22:50 < brown_cat> xD http://youtube.com/watch?v=X6EDAZ3crdY
2008-02-01 22:51 < kyorosuke> Gwern-away: The closest thing I can compare it to is Excel Saga, and it's much weirder in a very different and decidedly darker way
2008-02-01 22:51 < zero1328> right now Clannad's at episode 16 and I'd say they've went through maybe 1/3 of the game at most
2008-02-01 22:51 < kyorosuke> the animation is superb, but pointlessly experimental at times
2008-02-01 22:51 < zero1328> The game has a TON of dialogue
2008-02-01 22:51 < Gwern-away> kyorosuke: I liked excel saga a lot! so that sounds like a must watch then :)
2008-02-01 22:51 < kyorosuke> :D
2008-02-01 22:52 < kyorosuke> I never understood adapting multipath dating sims into linear anime, though... it would seem that the paths are pretty distinct
2008-02-01 22:53 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Which anime?
2008-02-01 22:53 < kyorosuke> I haven't played any games that have been adapted into anime, though
2008-02-01 22:53 < kyorosuke> quanticle: the KyoAni series based on Key/VisualArts games, I was thinking of
2008-02-01 22:53 < zero1328> Yeah, watching Kanon again makes the whole thing look a little broken
2008-02-01 22:53 < kyorosuke> Air, Kanon, etc
2008-02-01 22:53 < quanticle> kyorosuke: The DragonballZ video game was far easier to tolerate than the anime.
2008-02-01 22:54 < kyorosuke> haha
2008-02-01 22:54 < quanticle> kyorosuke: And by "DragonballZ Game", I mean Budokai
2008-02-01 22:54 < kyorosuke> I can't hate DBZ, cause it was the first anime I ever saw (more or less)
2008-02-01 22:54 < kyorosuke> but it can suck hard at times
2008-02-01 22:54 < quanticle> kyorosuke: I can't truly hate it, but I can certainly make fun of it.
2008-02-01 22:54 < kyorosuke> haha, yes
2008-02-01 22:55 < quanticle> kyorosuke: It sucked really hard at the end of Frieza, and again after Cell.
2008-02-01 22:55 < quanticle> Ok. What other good anime is out there?
2008-02-01 22:55 < zero1328> Right now I'm following Shakugan no Shana
2008-02-01 22:56 < kyorosuke> quanticle: Interestingly, those are both points when Akira Toriyama wanted to end the manga, but the anime was so succesful he was pressured out of doing so
2008-02-01 22:56 < zero1328> really good
2008-02-01 22:56 < zero1328> The DBZ anime would've been much better if it wasn't made alongside the manga... less filler
2008-02-01 22:56 < quanticle> I think I should also finish watching Bleach.
2008-02-01 22:57 < zero1328> finish? It's still ongoing I think
2008-02-01 22:57 < quanticle> zero1328: Yeah, but I'm significantly behind. I also need to watch Trigun.
2008-02-01 22:57 < kyorosuke> I was watching the dub on adult swim... the Soul Society arc is some of the most uneventful TV I've ever seen
2008-02-01 23:00 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Bleach?
2008-02-01 23:00 < kyorosuke> quanticle: for shorter series with more expensive DVDs, I just watched Gunbuster and Gunbuster 2
2008-02-01 23:00 < kyorosuke> yeah
2008-02-01 23:00 < quanticle> Ok.
2008-02-01 23:00 < name_name> bleah lulz
2008-02-01 23:00 < quanticle> G Gundam is also lulz
2008-02-01 23:01 < kyorosuke> ahh, G Gundam
2008-02-01 23:01 * doomssassin waves.
2008-02-01 23:01 < kyorosuke> so silly, but I like it
2008-02-01 23:01 < quanticle> "My finger is burning red!" + ethnic stereotypes + giant robots = lots of lulz
2008-02-01 23:02 < NCC-1701> Cr2O7(NH4)2 + O2 --(heat)--> fun times
2008-02-01 23:02 < kyorosuke> giant robot in a toga and sandles, because they represent greece? funny. Giant robot in a football helmet? funnier
2008-02-01 23:02 < quanticle> NCC-1701: No chemistry yet. I think the anime discussion hasn't played out fully yet.
2008-02-01 23:02 < doomssassin> Bender in toga.
2008-02-01 23:02 < NCC-1701> Shush
2008-02-01 23:02 < kyorosuke> the american pilot is named /Chibodee Crocket/
2008-02-01 23:03 < kyorosuke> just try and process that
2008-02-01 23:03 < quanticle> kyorosuke: I like Neo-Canada's Gundam.
2008-02-01 23:03 < quanticle> It had a lumberjack hat.
2008-02-01 23:03 < NCC-1701> 2K(s) + H2O(l) ----> K2O(l) + H2(g) + Heat
2008-02-01 23:03 < quanticle> kyorosuke: Or Neo-Mexico's Sombrero Gundam.
2008-02-01 23:04 < kyorosuke> aaah
2008-02-01 23:04 < quanticle> NCC-1701: 2*H2 + 02 = 2 H2O + (heat)
2008-02-01 23:04 < name_name> http://iexist.jexiste.fr/swf/iosys_toho7.swf -- "can't be alive without you"
2008-02-01 23:04 < NCC-1701> :P
2008-02-01 23:04 < doomssassin> Wow, my life is confusing.
2008-02-01 23:04 < quanticle> kyorosuke: How many Gundam shows have there been?
2008-02-01 23:04 < kyorosuke> Japan is not good with Mexican stereotypes... there's a group of characters in a transformers series who wear sombreros and do nothing but drink, laze, and insult the other characters
2008-02-01 23:05 < kyorosuke> quanticle: good question...
2008-02-01 23:06 < dbmoodb> any admins here ?
2008-02-01 23:06 < doomssassin> Dun dun dun. Nothing to do in my town.
2008-02-01 23:06 < dbmoodb> would like to get a dispute process started with the user Andyjsmith
2008-02-01 23:07 < kyorosuke> there's a bunch of different franchises and movies and ovas and stuff... way too indepth for me
2008-02-01 23:07 < kyorosuke> quanticle: but I think there's like 12 main TV series
2008-02-01 23:08 * doomssassin sighs.
2008-02-01 23:08 < doomssassin> be interesting, plskthx.
2008-02-01 23:08 < Pilotguy_aw> doomssassin- How's that ^
2008-02-01 23:08 < doomssassin> .... wow! interesting indeed!
2008-02-01 23:09 < NCC-1701> WTF?!
2008-02-01 23:10 < dbmoodb> wow
2008-02-01 23:10 < dbmoodb> net split
2008-02-01 23:10 < NCC-1701> What did you do, Pilotguy
2008-02-01 23:10 < Pilotguy> Why must you be so surprized by the happenings around here NCC-1701
2008-02-01 23:11 < Pilotguy> After all wikipedia is like none other
2008-02-01 23:11 < doomssassin> .... Who has an N number as his nick?
2008-02-01 23:11 < Pilotguy> FastLizard4
2008-02-01 23:11 < doomssassin> Ooo, I saw something funny the other day on a Southwest jet.
2008-02-01 23:11 < doomssassin> N747B2 was the tag.
2008-02-01 23:11 < Pilotguy> what was funny
2008-02-01 23:11 < NCC-1701> Obviously, doomssassin dosen't watch Star Trek
2008-02-01 23:11 < doomssassin> It was an airbus..... :-D
2008-02-01 23:11 < Mike_H> MY INTERNET SUCKS
2008-02-01 23:11 < Mike_H> GAH
2008-02-01 23:12 < Pilotguy> Southwest flies airbuses now
2008-02-01 23:12 < NCC-1701> Wow, how many people were affected by that split?
2008-02-01 23:12 * Pilotguy thought they stuck to 737's
2008-02-01 23:12 < Pilotguy> 34
2008-02-01 23:12 < Pilotguy> here
2008-02-01 23:12 < doomssassin> Must have at least one Airbus in the fleet, then. It sure as hell wasn't a 747.
2008-02-01 23:12 < Pilotguy> And it wasn't a 737
2008-02-01 23:12 < doomssassin> Wasn't a boeing at all.
2008-02-01 23:13 < Pilotguy> mm
2008-02-01 23:13 < NCC-1701> I'm on simmons.freenode.net, too, why wasn't I affected by the split?
2008-02-01 23:13 < Pilotguy> was kornbluth
2008-02-01 23:13 < doomssassin> Not a boeing, not a MD...
2008-02-01 23:13 < Pilotguy> How do you know
2008-02-01 23:14 < doomssassin> 737s typically don't have winglets, do they?
2008-02-01 23:14 < Pilotguy> Yes
2008-02-01 23:14 < Pilotguy> Southwest's do
2008-02-01 23:15 < doomssassin> Also, typically, 737s don't have high tails.
2008-02-01 23:15 < arcimboldo_> It was the first time I have seen myself leaving the channel.
2008-02-01 23:15 < arcimboldo_> |<-- arcimboldo_ has left freenode (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
2008-02-01 23:15 < Pilotguy> typically
2008-02-01 23:15 < Pilotguy> southwest is atypical
2008-02-01 23:15 < Pilotguy> arcimboldo_ [n=chatzill@s169.HtokyoFL2.vectant.ne.jp] has quit IRC: NETSPLIT kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
2008-02-01 23:16 < doomssassin> http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_mar2006/Airbus2006.jpg
2008-02-01 23:16 < arcimboldo_> Yeah, but I typically don't get to see the message about myself ...
2008-02-01 23:16 < NCC-1701> Where do you see the netsplit thing?
2008-02-01 23:16 < doomssassin> Why did southwest get winglets on their 737s?
2008-02-01 23:16 < NCC-1701> I don't see an IRC: NETSPLIT
2008-02-01 23:16 < Pilotguy> On my client
2008-02-01 23:16 < NCC-1701> which is?
2008-02-01 23:16 < doomssassin> I know it wasn't a 737 though.
2008-02-01 23:16 < doomssassin> Or a 747, for that matter.
2008-02-01 23:16 < Pilotguy> You sure
2008-02-01 23:16 * NCC-1701 runs a CTCP VERSION on Pilotguy
2008-02-01 23:17 < NCC-1701> aah
2008-02-01 23:17 < doomssassin> KLM flies interesting hardware. :o
2008-02-01 23:17 < Pilotguy> Winglets increase the lift-to-drag ratio
2008-02-01 23:17 < doomssassin> Oh, I'm positive.
2008-02-01 23:17 < Pilotguy> Hmm yeah something like that
2008-02-01 23:17 < doomssassin> It was a single decked tail high fat bottom jet.
2008-02-01 23:18 < Pilotguy> That could be anything
2008-02-01 23:18 < doomssassin> Bit smaller than a 737 too.
2008-02-01 23:18 < dbmoodb> wow
2008-02-01 23:18 < NCC-1701> O_O
2008-02-01 23:18 * brown_cat_ kicks NCC-1701 >:D
2008-02-01 23:19 < NCC-1701> I guess we all recovered from the netsplit just fine
2008-02-01 23:19 < doomssassin> I also remember specifically that it had 2 exits on the wings.
2008-02-01 23:19 < Pilotguy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines#Fleet
2008-02-01 23:19 < Pilotguy> See
2008-02-01 23:19 < NCC-1701> brown_cat_: You have a ghost on the channel
2008-02-01 23:19 < Pilotguy> No Airbus
2008-02-01 23:19 * brown_cat_ claps slowly for NCC-1701
2008-02-01 23:19 < Pilotguy> Yes you are describing both they both have those features
2008-02-01 23:21 < doomssassin> *shrug* I know for a fact it wasn't a 747. And that's what the number was. Which I found to be humerous.
2008-02-01 23:21 < dbmoodb> oh ok now i would like to question this page
2008-02-01 23:21 < dbmoodb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriah_College%2C_Sydney
2008-02-01 23:21 < dbmoodb> the grammar - look under history which is correct
2008-02-01 23:22 < doomssassin> Wow, on average 12 hours a day they are in the air. That's huge.
2008-02-01 23:22 < Pilotguy> doomssassin- Well that's Southwest for you
2008-02-01 23:22 < doomssassin> I hate southwest.
2008-02-01 23:22 < doomssassin> I fly those guys at Xjet (CE) as much as possible, although when I go outside of their operating area, I've been known to fly AE.
2008-02-01 23:23 < dbmoodb> can anyone look into the page i posted
2008-02-01 23:23 < brown_cat_> MessedRocker: out dreams have come true
2008-02-01 23:24 < dbmoodb> brown cat can you help out here ?
2008-02-01 23:24 < brown_cat_> depends
2008-02-01 23:24 < brown_cat_> does it involve rock band?
2008-02-01 23:24 < dbmoodb> i will message you
2008-02-01 23:24 * NCC-1701 pokes brown_cat_ with a 10 foot pole
2008-02-01 23:24 < doomssassin> I maintain, however, that the tail high setup wasn't 737.
2008-02-01 23:24 * brown_cat_ kicks the crap out of NCC-1701 and threatens him with the ops button
2008-02-01 23:25 < Thedjatclubrock> LOL --> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Coldtonight&diff=188532585&oldid=188532295
2008-02-01 23:25 * NCC-1701 knows that brown_cat_ can't op on this channel, but checks the lists anyway
2008-02-01 23:25 < brown_cat_> NCC-1701: I can call an op
2008-02-01 23:25 < NCC-1701> :P anyone can
2008-02-01 23:26 < doomssassin> I've ridden in the shamu plane before.
2008-02-01 23:28 < loader> Guys, help me please with follwing... Natasha revealed to host Tyra Banks... can anybody tell this in other words? I don't know how to translate this
2008-02-01 23:28 < loader> revealed to host...
2008-02-01 23:28 < Mike_H> told host
2008-02-01 23:28 < Mike_H> Natasha told host Tyra Banks
2008-02-01 23:28 < loader> host?
2008-02-01 23:29 < Mike_H> like the host of a TV show
2008-02-01 23:29 < Mike_H> "presenter"
2008-02-01 23:29 < loader> it is not webhosting anyhow ))
2008-02-01 23:29 < Mike_H> haha, no
2008-02-01 23:29 < Mike_H> the host of a TV show
2008-02-01 23:29 < loader> so she was adviced to cast with Tyra Banks?
2008-02-01 23:30 < loader> am I right?
2008-02-01 23:31 < Mike_H> loader: Natasha and Tyra were talking
2008-02-01 23:31 < symode09> would http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquinas_College%2C_Perth be a fa?
2008-02-01 23:31 < Mike_H> and Natasha told Tyra...
2008-02-01 23:31 < loader> told what?
2008-02-01 23:31 < loader> ))
2008-02-01 23:31 < kyorosuke> "told" in this case is like "said"
2008-02-01 23:31 < loader> I understand
2008-02-01 23:32 < Mike_H> the verb = to tell
2008-02-01 23:32 < loader> ))))))))))0
2008-02-01 23:32 < Mike_H> like "Let me tell you something"
2008-02-01 23:32 < loader> ok ok i don't understand meaning of word 'host' in that case
2008-02-01 23:32 < Mike_H> "host" is the person who presents a TV show
2008-02-01 23:32 < loader> oh, ok. now I see.
2008-02-01 23:33 < loader> ))
2008-02-01 23:33 < loader> thx