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2008-01-01 00:03 < dannyisme> tetze shana vekileloteha, tavo shana ubirchotecha
2008-01-01 00:03 < dannyisme> may teh old year with all its misfortunes pass. May the new year with all its blessing come
2008-01-01 00:03 < dannyisme> happy new year all
2008-01-01 00:06 < Amgine> <waves @ Dannyisme> And to you!
2008-01-01 00:09 < cimon> dannyisme: Ave!
2008-01-01 00:10 < dannyisme> :-)
2008-01-01 00:10 < dannyisme> may everyone have a wonderful year, where all their hopes are realized
2008-01-01 00:12 < cimon> dannyisme: heh, you haven't been watching The Wizard of Speed and Time, by any chance...
2008-01-01 00:12 < dannyisme> no
2008-01-01 00:14 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Speed_and_Time
2008-01-01 00:19 < cimon> hmm. that article has been edited to remove knowledge of what the subliminal messages hidden were...
2008-01-01 00:19 < cimon> The most common one was "May all your dreams come true."
2008-01-01 00:19 < dannyisme> that is a nice message
2008-01-01 00:20 < cimon> and that movie is a real feelgood movie too.
2008-01-01 00:20 < cimon> sort of a big defense of the little guy...
2008-01-01 00:20 < cimon> against the system
2008-01-01 00:59 < dungodung> it's already day in here
2008-01-01 00:59 < dungodung> but I have to go to sleep :)
2008-01-01 01:29 < Warpath> "Today, up to US$ 50,000 will be matched by an anonymous donor." O_O
2008-01-01 02:10 < britty> hi there
2008-01-01 02:10 * britty hugs Dmcdevit
2008-01-01 02:10 < britty> happy new year!
2008-01-01 02:13 < Dmcdevit> Hey britty!
2008-01-01 02:13 < Dmcdevit> Coincidentally, it just became 2008 10 minutes ago, in my time zone. :-)
2008-01-01 02:14 < cimon> happy new year too
2008-01-01 02:14 < cimon> 9 hours ago here
2008-01-01 02:14 < Dmcdevit> :-)
2008-01-01 02:14 < cimon> soon we will have dragged the whole world into the same year again...
2008-01-01 02:15 < Dmcdevit> The west coast over here in North America is next.
2008-01-01 02:15 < cimon> the yearsplits will be over.
2008-01-01 02:16 < cimon> I for one wellcome the new digit 8 in the year.
2008-01-01 02:16 < cimon> got way bored of 7
2008-01-01 02:16 < twincest> hm, if we got $50k of matching donations every day, we might actually get enough money
2008-01-01 02:53 < britty> hoi GerardM-
2008-01-01 02:53 < britty> happy new year
2008-01-01 02:53 < britty> hi cimon!
2008-01-01 02:54 < britty> twincest, I saw it early today - that was yestertday in the us
2008-01-01 02:54 < britty> i wonder what today is - 50K dollar for each days or just for some 24+ hours?
2008-01-01 02:56 < britty> oh
2008-01-01 04:25 < brown_cat> heya all
2008-01-01 04:26 < brown_cat> what a cheery bunch
2008-01-01 04:27 < brown_cat> if I have a skin on my private wiki, is there a way for me to apply that skin so I can have the same skin in wikipedia?
2008-01-01 04:29 < str4nd_> You can select myskin from the settings and modify Special:Mypage/myskin.css (and Special:Mypage/myskin.js)
2008-01-01 04:30 < brown_cat> ah, ok :D
2008-01-01 04:30 < brown_cat> and where do I get the code on my wiki from
2008-01-01 04:30 * brown_cat is a wiki n00b
2008-01-01 07:02 * britty is watching wienersilvester concert at tv
2008-01-01 07:03 < britty> around noon or just after in europe?
2008-01-01 07:03 < britty> and I wonder what you are doing .... in the new year day
2008-01-01 07:07 < Warpath> ahhh January 2nd for me now :P
2008-01-01 07:19 < Sundance_Raphael> hi britty
2008-01-01 07:20 < britty> moin
2008-01-01 07:20 < britty> Warpath, ah so??
2008-01-01 07:20 < britty> where are you now?
2008-01-01 07:20 * britty hat 21 uhr
2008-01-01 07:20 < Warpath> [[Fiji]] :DD
2008-01-01 07:20 < britty> just +12
2008-01-01 07:20 < britty> ah
2008-01-01 07:21 < britty> living or holiday?
2008-01-01 07:22 < Warpath> living
2008-01-01 07:26 < Cometstyles> britty :DDD
2008-01-01 08:02 < britty> Cometstyles, hi!
2008-01-01 08:03 < Cometstyles> :)
2008-01-01 08:14 < greudin> bonne nénée
2008-01-01 08:17 < britty> greudin, et pour toi :)
2008-01-01 08:17 < greudin> ^^
2008-01-01 08:23 < Thogo> any Meta bureaucrat available?
2008-01-01 08:23 < Thogo> (happy New Year for all!)
2008-01-01 08:24 < Nick1915> happy new year!
2008-01-01 08:25 < Brownout> crappy new year!
2008-01-01 08:25 < Brownout> *happy
2008-01-01 08:26 < britty> happy new year buon anno
2008-01-01 08:26 < britty> crappy new year! noooo
2008-01-01 08:30 < Thogo> Nick1915: Are you Meta bureaucrat accidentally?
2008-01-01 08:30 < Thogo> or britty?
2008-01-01 08:31 < britty> oh sorry no
2008-01-01 08:31 < Thogo> hm...
2008-01-01 08:31 < britty> you can make yourself temporary if in urgent need
2008-01-01 08:31 < Thogo> it's not urgent
2008-01-01 08:32 < Nick1915> no
2008-01-01 08:32 < Nick1915> herby or majorly
2008-01-01 08:32 < Nick1915> or m/
2008-01-01 08:32 < Thogo> and Lar
2008-01-01 08:32 < Brownout> or anaconda
2008-01-01 08:32 < Thogo> is he elected?
2008-01-01 08:32 < Brownout> anaconda?
2008-01-01 08:33 < Thogo> yes, obviously he is. :)
2008-01-01 08:35 < gurch> lol bureaucrats
2008-01-01 08:35 < Thogo> only two of them are here... yannf: Do you have a minute please? (Only a username change.)
2008-01-01 08:41 < dungodung> rah, stupid timeline
2008-01-01 08:45 < Thogo> dungodung: ?
2008-01-01 08:45 < dungodung> nothing
2008-01-01 09:31 < yannf> Thogo, yes,
2008-01-01 09:31 < yannf> ?
2008-01-01 09:32 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 09:32 < yannf> meuh ;)
2008-01-01 09:32 < Thogo> yannf: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_username_changes#Pmgpmg_.40_wikipedia ---- second line. :)
2008-01-01 09:34 < yannf> Thogo, done
2008-01-01 09:34 < Thogo> thank you.
2008-01-01 09:44 < yannf> welcome :)
2008-01-01 09:45 < Thogo> yannf: (sorry) Could you add that you only did the change for Meta? The two other wikis are still on hold (waiting for local crats).
2008-01-01 09:45 < yannf> ah yes
2008-01-01 10:10 < gattonero> yawn
2008-01-01 10:11 < gattonero> happy new year, to all of you
2008-01-01 10:11 < gattonero> (almost all)
2008-01-01 10:14 < dungodung> thx. 2u2
2008-01-01 11:35 < cirwin> Hi, does anyone know where I report non-live mirrors?
2008-01-01 11:35 < cirwin> (non-GFDL compliant)
2008-01-01 11:35 < twincest> why would you report those?
2008-01-01 11:35 < twincest> ah
2008-01-01 11:35 < Amgine> twincest: remember yawiki?
2008-01-01 11:35 < twincest> no?
2008-01-01 11:35 < cirwin> yawiktionary
2008-01-01 11:35 < cirwin> http://www.yawiktionary.com/
2008-01-01 11:35 < Amgine> http://www.yawiki.org/
2008-01-01 11:36 < Amgine> (go look at source)
2008-01-01 12:13 < Sfan00> Hi people
2008-01-01 12:13 < Sfan00> Have put the -ideas channel under a heading at meta
2008-01-01 13:11 < guillom> happy new year Wikimedia
2008-01-01 13:13 < gattonero> happy, happy
2008-01-01 13:14 < gattonero> I reached an infinite block on it.wiki, and we have to celebrate :p
2008-01-01 13:14 < Amgine> You've been infiniteblocked there?
2008-01-01 13:14 < gattonero> yep. A right block, by the way
2008-01-01 13:15 < guillom> ah, it's a new year's day, Amgine is on irc
2008-01-01 13:15 < Amgine> <grin> And a good day to you, too, guillom. Happy New Year's!
2008-01-01 13:15 < guillom> g'd day Amgine :)
2008-01-01 13:16 < DrorK-IL> So, It's nearly January 2nd
2008-01-01 13:16 < britty> bonne annee guillom!
2008-01-01 13:16 * guillom hugs britty
2008-01-01 13:17 * guillom hi-5's Dror
2008-01-01 13:17 < britty> gattonero, you can join my indef club
2008-01-01 13:17 < Amgine> <hugs britty too!>
2008-01-01 13:17 < gattonero> gh :D
2008-01-01 13:17 < DrorK-IL> Is there any field not summed-up by the press before we wrap up the new year's day?
2008-01-01 13:17 < britty> I think I can be the honorary chair
2008-01-01 13:17 < britty> DrorK-IL, for me already 2nd
2008-01-01 13:17 * britty hugs Amgine
2008-01-01 13:17 < britty> akemashite omedeto gozaimasu
2008-01-01 13:17 * effeietsanders wishes all the best for 2008
2008-01-01 13:18 < DrorK-IL> britty, I should look eastwards more often :-)
2008-01-01 13:18 < britty> :D
2008-01-01 13:18 < Amgine> DrorK-IL: The best sunsets/sunrises of 2007.
2008-01-01 13:18 < DrorK-IL> britty, but you have another round on January 14th
2008-01-01 13:18 < britty> yep :)
2008-01-01 13:18 < effeietsanders> DrorK-IL: the best article on wikipedia of 2007
2008-01-01 13:18 < DrorK-IL> effeietsanders: We've been through that :-)
2008-01-01 13:19 < britty> not so hugely celebrated here though
2008-01-01 13:19 < britty> we don't have regularly that feast only on sunday
2008-01-01 13:19 < Amgine> britty: Because it's only the Gregorian New Year. I much prefer Lunar New Year...
2008-01-01 13:19 < DrorK-IL> britty, the Russian celebrate two new year days
2008-01-01 13:19 < britty> DrorK-IL, i know
2008-01-01 13:19 < britty> but they are still in nativity fast
2008-01-01 13:20 < DrorK-IL> I celebrate my new year in September, it's a much better season
2008-01-01 13:20 < britty> Amgine, DrorK-IL and i talked about julian new year
2008-01-01 13:20 < britty> DrorK-IL, :)
2008-01-01 13:20 < britty> dungy and I talked just yesterday the orthodox year also begins from september
2008-01-01 13:20 < DrorK-IL> It's not only the Jews, the Copts celebrate in Sep too
2008-01-01 13:20 < britty> DrorK-IL, for sep 1 the church has the new year liturgy
2008-01-01 13:21 < britty> while we use it for jan 1
2008-01-01 13:21 < britty> here in japan i mean
2008-01-01 13:21 < DrorK-IL> britty, the Copts still use the ancient Egyptian calendar, so for them it's sometime in September, I'm not sure of the exact date
2008-01-01 13:21 * britty nods
2008-01-01 13:22 < britty> I think it was you from whom I learnt that
2008-01-01 13:22 < Amgine> Does anyone remember where the boilerplate letters to send to a non-GFDL-compliant website are?
2008-01-01 13:22 < britty> Amgine, now it is on OTRS wiki but you can dig it up from history
2008-01-01 13:22 < britty> if you know the file name
2008-01-01 13:22 < britty> ah guillom !
2008-01-01 13:23 < Amgine> No, I don't know. It's the one about not following the license of wikipedia.
2008-01-01 13:23 < britty> i think you can do a favor for me to issue an account of otrs wiki
2008-01-01 13:23 * britty feels hungry
2008-01-01 13:24 < effeietsanders> Amgine: i only know there must be sucha boilerplate letter somewhere...
2008-01-01 13:24 < britty> btw why do those boilerplates go to otrs wiki?
2008-01-01 13:24 < Amgine> I thought it was on en.wp, but ...
2008-01-01 13:25 < effeietsanders> Amgine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Standard_GFDL_violation_letter
2008-01-01 13:25 < britty> just 'cos there is a wiki?
2008-01-01 13:25 < cirwin> thanks Amgine
2008-01-01 13:25 < cirwin> sorry
2008-01-01 13:25 < cirwin> thanks effeietsanders
2008-01-01 13:25 < effeietsanders> yw
2008-01-01 13:25 < effeietsanders> Google is great :)
2008-01-01 13:25 < effeietsanders> thank Google :P
2008-01-01 13:25 < Amgine> Thank effeietsanders!
2008-01-01 13:25 < effeietsanders> and don't think even of finding it through mediawiki search :P
2008-01-01 13:26 < guillom> britty, because it's easier to watch them
2008-01-01 13:26 < britty> so?
2008-01-01 13:26 < britty> how?
2008-01-01 13:26 < Majorly> ooh reconfimation time
2008-01-01 13:26 < guillom> they're all in a dedicated namespace britty
2008-01-01 13:26 < britty> guillom, ah
2008-01-01 13:26 < guillom> we can watch recent changes in this namespace
2008-01-01 13:27 < britty> well I need the access for wq boilerplates
2008-01-01 13:27 < guillom> are you not on otrs ?
2008-01-01 13:27 < britty> i am
2008-01-01 13:27 < britty> but i have no account on otrs
2008-01-01 13:27 < britty> wiki
2008-01-01 13:27 < guillom> ah
2008-01-01 13:27 < guillom> well
2008-01-01 13:27 < guillom> that's a detail :)
2008-01-01 13:27 < guillom> hold on a sec
2008-01-01 13:27 < britty> ok
2008-01-01 13:28 < dungodung> guillom!!
2008-01-01 13:28 < guillom> filip!
2008-01-01 13:28 < dungodung> hi! :))
2008-01-01 13:29 < guillom> hey :)
2008-01-01 13:31 < dungodung> we've missed you
2008-01-01 13:33 < guillom> i hope so
2008-01-01 13:34 < dungodung> heh
2008-01-01 13:35 < guillom> :)
2008-01-01 14:39 < Austin> I just modertated a whole bunch of people on foundation-l
2008-01-01 14:39 < Austin> I won't lie, it felt a little good.
2008-01-01 14:40 < Amgine> <giggles>
2008-01-01 14:41 < Austin> You should have known you were asking for it when you started arguing about Volapuk. ;)
2008-01-01 14:42 < dungodung> heh
2008-01-01 14:42 < Amgine> <blinks> I should go read this...
2008-01-01 14:42 < Austin> It's not worth the read
2008-01-01 14:42 < dungodung> Amgine: it's a long thread
2008-01-01 14:42 < dungodung> btw, hny Austin & Amgine
2008-01-01 14:42 < Austin> Happy new year, Filip :)
2008-01-01 14:43 < dungodung> :)
2008-01-01 14:43 < Amgine> <laughs>
2008-01-01 14:43 < shimgray> Austin: anyone interesting?
2008-01-01 14:44 < Austin> Honestly, I just moderated the last half dozen people to have contributed more than one post in that thread.
2008-01-01 14:44 < Austin> I'll watch it so I can let their other posts go through.
2008-01-01 14:44 < Austin> But there's no really good way to killfile a thread.
2008-01-01 14:44 < Amgine> omg: I just saw an advertisement for jPod <bleah>. The boss character looks rather a bit like JWales.
2008-01-01 14:45 < shimgray> (this is code for "was I one of them?" ;-)
2008-01-01 14:46 < Austin> No, you gave up days ago :)
2008-01-01 15:20 < Sfan00> Geradm: Had you put your thoughts re minority lanaguges in audio on foundation-l?
2008-01-01 15:21 < Sfan00> Good Evening Wikimedia
2008-01-01 15:21 < Sfan00> :)
2008-01-01 15:44 < Filnik> Hello
2008-01-01 16:30 < dungodung> err, spacebird, did you just make Centralnotice-subheading hungarian for everyone?
2008-01-01 16:31 < Amgine> <chuckles> That could be cool...
2008-01-01 16:32 < spacebird> dungodung: thanks, I followed the wrong link :(
2008-01-01 16:32 < dungodung> :)
2008-01-01 17:02 < Filnik> byez!
2008-01-01 18:32 < cirwin> sorry to ask without giving, but does someone know where emails to OTRS should be sent, beyond the information at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS
2008-01-01 18:35 < shimgray> info@wikimedia.org is the most simple address
2008-01-01 18:35 < shimgray> is it for a specific topic?
2008-01-01 18:36 < cirwin> legal
2008-01-01 18:36 < shimgray> send it to info@ and mark it for the attention of legal
2008-01-01 18:36 < cirwin> thanks :)
2008-01-01 18:37 < shimgray> can't think of any better way to do it :-)
2008-01-01 18:47 < Amgine> shimgray: well, you could ask JeLuF what the legal queue email address is...
2008-01-01 18:49 < shimgray> Amgine: I seem to recall from before that there deliberately isn't a direct address
2008-01-01 18:49 < shimgray> BICBW
2008-01-01 18:50 < Amgine> Don't know that one, but I do know cirwin's issue.
2008-01-01 18:50 < cirwin> someone else conjectured persuasively that the list of queues could be accessed @wikimedia.org
2008-01-01 18:51 < Amgine> I don't know if you can access a list of them, but each queue has a specific e-mail address associated with it, yes.
2008-01-01 18:52 < cirwin> there is a list at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS
2008-01-01 18:52 < cirwin> to which I added the conjectured statement
2008-01-01 18:52 < cirwin> (probably in too much haste)
2008-01-01 19:03 < Messedrocker> hello Messiah of Information Foundation
2008-01-01 19:03 < Messedrocker> how's the god complex?
2008-01-01 19:03 < Luna-San> GREAT =}
2008-01-01 19:03 < Luna-San> The view is fantastic from up here!
2008-01-01 19:04 < Luna-San> Well, that was quick.
2008-01-01 19:04 < cirwin> all bow to the messiah Luna-San :p
2008-01-01 19:13 < Amgine> Does this mean Luna-San is MIFfed?
2008-01-01 19:14 < Luna-San> Time will tell. First I've gotta get me some disciples.
2008-01-01 19:38 < LordAnubis> hello, i am looking for a "root developer", anyone knows of one?
2008-01-01 19:39 < effeietsanders> anthere is cheating!
2008-01-01 19:39 < effeietsanders> psssh!
2008-01-01 19:39 < effeietsanders> 10 wishes, yeah right.
2008-01-01 19:39 < effeietsanders> she merges wishes together! :O
2008-01-01 19:39 < Luna-San> Sounds like you might want #mediawiki -- the channel for the software that runs this little family of wikis; this channel is for the non-profit foundation that provides backing
2008-01-01 19:39 * effeietsanders counts like, 15 wishes!
2008-01-01 19:39 < Luna-San> This is confusing, we know. :p
2008-01-01 19:39 < LordAnubis> aha no probs then
2008-01-01 19:47 * schiste slaps effeietsanders
2008-01-01 19:47 < schiste> Happy new year >_>
2008-01-01 19:47 < effeietsanders> happy ny too to you :)
2008-01-01 19:48 < schiste> Stop sending looooooooooooooong emails from the very first day of the year ^^
2008-01-01 19:48 < effeietsanders> hmm, darn, i forgot to draw you a package of vla...
2008-01-01 19:48 < schiste> long and intersting
2008-01-01 19:48 < schiste> huhu ^^{
2008-01-01 19:48 < effeietsanders> i was thinking of that email already for days...
2008-01-01 19:48 * jhs seconds schiste
2008-01-01 19:48 < effeietsanders> sorry guys...
2008-01-01 19:48 < jhs> then zzzzzzzzzzs
2008-01-01 19:48 < effeietsanders> won't do it again this year
2008-01-01 19:49 < schiste> effeietsanders don't say that
2008-01-01 19:49 < schiste> you know you'll do it again ^^
2008-01-01 19:49 < effeietsanders> schiste: i won't send long interesting emails on the first day of the year any more this year
2008-01-01 19:49 < effeietsanders> that's what i said
2008-01-01 19:50 < effeietsanders> not very hard to promise :P
2008-01-01 19:50 < effeietsanders> as i'm going to sleep now :)
2008-01-01 19:50 < Amgine> Since it's the second day of the year...
2008-01-01 19:50 < Amgine> !nn effeietsanders
2008-01-01 19:50 < effeietsanders> and if you really hate it, request moderation ;-)
2008-01-01 19:50 < effeietsanders> probably you'll have to volunteer yourself :P
2008-01-01 19:51 < Nick1915> nite effeietsanders
2008-01-01 20:25 < dungodung|sleep> gn kibble
2008-01-01 20:25 < kibble> dungy!
2008-01-01 20:25 < kibble> night :-)
2008-01-01 21:21 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 21:25 < Nick1915> zzzzz
2008-01-01 21:28 < simplechat> join #wikipedia
2008-01-01 21:28 < simplechat> sorry
2008-01-01 21:28 < simplechat> missed the slash
2008-01-02 00:15 < DragonFire1024> has the audit been released yet?
2008-01-02 03:03 < britty> hello all
2008-01-02 04:16 * dungodung strangles COIBot
2008-01-02 06:15 < Eirikb> Hi, everybody, how can I translate the subtitles for the Jimbo Wales Donation Video?
2008-01-02 06:16 < Eirikb> I.e where can I find the English subtitles file?
2008-01-02 06:47 < Eirikb> If anynoe does know, please contact me here: http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brukardiskusjon:Eirik
2008-01-02 08:32 < Filnik> Hello
2008-01-02 08:33 < wpedzich> Hello Filnik
2008-01-02 08:33 < Filnik> Hi wpedzich :)
2008-01-02 08:36 < Brownout> ciao Filnik
2008-01-02 08:36 < Filnik> Hi Brownout
2008-01-02 09:59 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-01-02 10:00 < Thogo|trabajando> ciao Fabexplosive!
2008-01-02 10:01 < Fabexplosive> ciao Thogo|trabajando
2008-01-02 10:01 < Fabexplosive> :)
2008-01-02 10:13 < Sundance_Raphael> hi Fabexplosive
2008-01-02 10:14 < Fabexplosive> hey Sundance_Raphael
2008-01-02 10:33 < MZMcBride> mike godwin's e-mail address is...?
2008-01-02 10:37 < NotACow> god@god.net
2008-01-02 10:37 < MZMcBride> seriously
2008-01-02 10:37 * NotACow has no idea
2008-01-02 10:37 < dungodung> mgodwin at wikimedia dot org
2008-01-02 10:37 < MZMcBride> dungodung: thanks
2008-01-02 10:37 < dungodung> np
2008-01-02 10:38 < Fabexplosive> hey dungodung
2008-01-02 10:38 < dungodung> pretty much all of the WMF staff and/or contractors have the <first letter of the name><last name> @ wikimedia.org addresses
2008-01-02 10:38 < MZMcBride> yeah, i knew there was a pattern, just didn't know which one :)
2008-01-02 10:39 < dungodung> hi fabex!]
2008-01-02 10:46 < Thogo|trabajando> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cbrown1023&curid=58824&diff=815592&oldid=814870&rcid=839787 *lol* We are soo evil.
2008-01-02 10:58 < britty> Thogo|trabajando, hilarious
2008-01-02 10:59 < britty> you talked as if you had discovered that recently
2008-01-02 11:02 < Thogo|trabajando> If that IP had not tell us that, I would not have known.
2008-01-02 11:05 < Fabexplosive> ciao britty
2008-01-02 11:05 < britty> ciao
2008-01-02 11:06 < britty> felix culpa!
2008-01-02 11:06 < britty> Thogo|trabajando, so you now know it
2008-01-02 11:17 < timichal> Arria: got teh card, thank you
2008-01-02 11:17 < NotACow> meow
2008-01-02 11:23 < Fabexplosive> hi Anthere2 and timichal
2008-01-02 12:47 < Sfan00> Hmm
2008-01-02 12:48 < Sfan00> Can I ask a serious question here?
2008-01-02 12:48 < Sfan00> Am I allowed to 'advertise' Wikimedia projects but telling people about them?
2008-01-02 12:49 < Submarine> ?
2008-01-02 12:49 < Submarine> What do you mean?
2008-01-02 12:50 < Sfan00> Can I put a self made as up in a local community centre asking for contributors?
2008-01-02 12:50 < Sfan00> *ad
2008-01-02 12:51 < domas> sure
2008-01-02 12:51 < Sfan00> Ok
2008-01-02 12:51 < Sfan00> The issue arose because I was needing approval on the use of logos...
2008-01-02 12:52 < BrokenArrow> commons has already several examples of that
2008-01-02 12:52 < Sfan00> which are NOT covered by the standard licensing
2008-01-02 12:52 < BrokenArrow> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_promotion
2008-01-02 12:52 < Sfan00> Alternativly, Is there an 'offical' poster advert I can use?
2008-01-02 12:55 < Sfan00> Hmm There doesn't seem to be a poster ad in that category..
2008-01-02 12:55 < Sfan00> Is ODF format acceptable at commons?
2008-01-02 12:57 < Sfan00> I also need permission to put something on meta
2008-01-02 12:57 < Sfan00> :0
2008-01-02 12:58 < Sfan00> I've already put ##Wikimedia-ideas into the IRC list under an unoffical header,
2008-01-02 12:58 < Sfan00> It's a channel for disscusion of ideas, like a lot of the disaorganised proposals on Meta
2008-01-02 13:00 < Sfan00> I'd like to add ##Wikicast to the list of unoffical channels in connection with some ideas around podcasting...
2008-01-02 13:16 < kim_bruning> yellow Anthere2 , Zach
2008-01-02 13:17 < Sfan00> hi kim
2008-01-02 13:18 < Sfan00> hi Francogg
2008-01-02 13:18 < Sfan00> So is there an 'offical' poster I could put up in a communiy venue ?
2008-01-02 13:20 < Thogo> thank you, brion, for fixing Bug 12071. :)
2008-01-02 13:28 < Sfan00> Can I make a requst here
2008-01-02 13:28 < Sfan00> ?
2008-01-02 13:29 < Majorly> depends what you request
2008-01-02 13:29 < Sfan00> Audio Wikinews needs people to record content from Wikinews... Wheres the best place to put out a cross project assistance request?
2008-01-02 13:31 < Sfan00> hi jasoncalacanis , Please state the nature of your intended project :)
2008-01-02 13:31 < brion> enjoy Thogo :D
2008-01-02 13:31 < Thogo> :)
2008-01-02 13:31 < jasoncalacanis> sfan00: thanks
2008-01-02 13:32 < Thogo> it will save a lot of time.
2008-01-02 13:32 < jasoncalacanis> i'm looking for a couple of folks to work remote on news/research at Mahalo.com. Must have perfect grammar/spelling and be addicted to news. no need to be in US, but must have perfect english spelling/grammar
2008-01-02 13:32 < jasoncalacanis> $10 an hour, 20-50 hours a week
2008-01-02 13:33 * MZMcBride points to monster.com ?
2008-01-02 13:33 < jasoncalacanis> MZMcBride: that's why I asked if it was ok to mention here. :-)
2008-01-02 13:33 < jasoncalacanis> we post to all the job sites out there
2008-01-02 13:34 < MZMcBride> ah, ok
2008-01-02 13:34 < ^demon> jasoncalacanis: I've got no problems with it, but I'm not in charge ;-)
2008-01-02 13:34 < jasoncalacanis> just trying to speed things up by finding folks who know wiki markup already
2008-01-02 13:34 < Sfan00> WMF projects tend to be voulnteer efforts
2008-01-02 13:34 < jasoncalacanis> Sfan00: folks can donate the research fees to WMF :-)
2008-01-02 13:34 < Sfan00> OK ..
2008-01-02 13:34 < jasoncalacanis> (serious about that... we give folks the option to do that in our Greenhouse project)
2008-01-02 13:35 < Sfan00> As was recomendd you might want to mention this to the people at Wikinews
2008-01-02 13:35 < Sfan00> Wikinews is trying to build a free news source/agency
2008-01-02 13:35 < ^demon> jasoncalacanis: Mind if I send you a private message?
2008-01-02 13:35 < Sfan00> I wouldn't be interested as my spelling is poor
2008-01-02 13:36 < Sfan00> But thanks fo popping in :)
2008-01-02 13:36 < Sfan00> *for
2008-01-02 13:36 < Sfan00> You could also try putting stuff on the Water Cooler (Wikinews) or Village Pump (Wikipedia)
2008-01-02 13:37 < jasoncalacanis> sure
2008-01-02 13:37 < Sfan00> but if people think you are spamming being prepared for a rough ride... :(
2008-01-02 13:37 < jasoncalacanis> private message me or
2008-01-02 13:37 < jasoncalacanis> email me at jason at calacanis.com
2008-01-02 13:51 < britty> yellow?
2008-01-02 13:53 < NotACow> little. yellow. different.
2008-01-02 13:54 < britty> I'm puzzled with "kim_bruning yellow Anthere2 , Zach" (hi)
2008-01-02 13:54 < Zach> orange
2008-01-02 13:58 < kim_bruning> britty, "yellow" sounds like "hello"
2008-01-02 13:59 < kim_bruning> heya britty :-)
2008-01-02 13:59 < kim_bruning> it's a pun
2008-01-02 13:59 < kim_bruning> "a punny joke, ha ha ha" :-P
2008-01-02 13:59 < britty> i supposed so but didn't think it was so eh
2008-01-02 13:59 < britty> :)
2008-01-02 13:59 < kim_bruning> (punny sounds like funny)
2008-01-02 13:59 < britty> in japan this kind of puns are called "oyaji-gag"
2008-01-02 14:01 < Zach> orange you glad i didn't say banana?
2008-01-02 14:02 < ^demon> I would've rather you not spoken at all.
2008-01-02 14:02 * ^demon despises puns.
2008-01-02 14:07 < kim_bruning> poor demon
2008-01-02 14:07 < kim_bruning> hello!
2008-01-02 14:09 < ^demon> Hello.
2008-01-02 14:11 < britty> hello zach ^demon
2008-01-02 14:11 * britty hugs kim_bruning
2008-01-02 14:12 < ^demon> Who wants to come do my job for the rest of the day so I can go home?
2008-01-02 14:12 * britty ducks
2008-01-02 14:13 < britty> btw my city got a lake ^^ http://toyohama.myminicity.com/
2008-01-02 14:13 < Majorly> lol britty
2008-01-02 14:14 < britty> hi Majorly
2008-01-02 14:19 < britty> Majorly, I'm proud of making you laugh
2008-01-02 14:19 < britty> and what was that?
2008-01-02 14:19 * kim_bruning hugs britty :-)
2008-01-02 14:19 < Majorly> that site is funny
2008-01-02 14:19 < britty> so? particularly on which?
2008-01-02 14:20 * britty may agree it is not serious but haven't thought it as "funny"
2008-01-02 14:23 < Majorly> britty: I just find it funny. I don't know why
2008-01-02 14:24 < britty> the sense of humour of british people is sometimes esoteric
2008-01-02 14:25 < brion> mmm that reminds me of simcity
2008-01-02 14:25 * brion always liked sending godzilla to smash his cities
2008-01-02 14:25 < britty> sort of
2008-01-02 14:25 < britty> but you cannot destroy any neighborhood in your preferences
2008-01-02 14:25 < Thogo> hehehe, yes. Godzilla was nice.
2008-01-02 14:26 < britty> only can see them corrupting ...
2008-01-02 14:26 < britty> but can you send godzillas?
2008-01-02 14:26 < britty> it only comes as disaster iirc?
2008-01-02 14:27 < Thogo> I think there was a cheat with that you could force disasters.
2008-01-02 14:27 < britty> aha
2008-01-02 14:27 < brianmc> why am I not surprised Brion knew the cheats? :P
2008-01-02 14:28 < britty> they use the open proxies' list for cheating
2008-01-02 14:28 < britty> I mean myminicity
2008-01-02 14:28 < britty> can we use it for blocking them for a while?
2008-01-02 14:28 < britty> or they are already blocked?
2008-01-02 14:29 < brianmc> Who would support a project-wide block of all Church of Scientology addresses? ;)
2008-01-02 14:29 < Ausir> who wouldn't?
2008-01-02 14:29 < Sfan00> brianmc: On what grounds?
2008-01-02 14:30 < Ausir> same with all churches, for that matter
2008-01-02 14:30 < NotACow> brianmc: you'd have to find them first
2008-01-02 14:30 < Dmcdevit> Hey brion, tlh.wiktionary has said "This wiki is going to close so the data has been transferred to wikia." for months now. Did you have any plans to lock it eventually? :)
2008-01-02 14:30 < NotACow> brianmc: many CoS supporters edit from universities.
2008-01-02 14:30 < Submarine> I now have a scientolo-meter.
2008-01-02 14:30 < Sfan00> Submarine: ??
2008-01-02 14:30 < Submarine> I sometimes see advertisements and I think "this sounds like Scientology".
2008-01-02 14:31 < NotACow> the klingon wiktionary is one gigantic copyright infringement and should be nooked.
2008-01-02 14:31 < Sfan00> I thought an e-metere was just a sophistacted lie detector
2008-01-02 14:31 < Ausir> hail Xenu
2008-01-02 14:31 < Submarine> and if I google the name of the organization or care to match the address with the address of the local CoS, it shows that indeed it IS scientology
2008-01-02 14:31 < britty> hi ausir!
2008-01-02 14:31 < britty> happy new year
2008-01-02 14:31 < NotACow> Sfan00: actually it's a badly-designed lie detector.
2008-01-02 14:31 < brion> Dmcdevit: meh, i'm lazy about such things :)
2008-01-02 14:31 < Ausir> thanks
2008-01-02 14:32 < Ausir> Submarine: scientology has only recently started activities in Poland
2008-01-02 14:32 < Sfan00> But Why should Wikimedia sites block CoS ones
2008-01-02 14:32 < Ausir> they've only published dianetics and some hubbard novels here
2008-01-02 14:32 < Dmcdevit> brion, Sure, it's not urgent. But it should happen sometime, you know... :)
2008-01-02 14:32 < Sfan00> Why should Wikimedia block CoS sites...?
2008-01-02 14:32 < brion> Dmcdevit: well we haven't blocked access to the r/o tlh.wikipedia either
2008-01-02 14:33 < Sfan00> What arguments are there for doing so
2008-01-02 14:33 < brion> any particular reason to do so for tlk.wiktionary?
2008-01-02 14:33 < Dmcdevit> tlh.wikipedia is indeed locked to editing, last I checked.
2008-01-02 14:33 < brianmc> Why do you think a dangerous cult that has killed people and been repeatedly prosecuted be allowed to promote their POV Sfan00 ?
2008-01-02 14:33 < britty> Sfan00, because of their advertisement
2008-01-02 14:33 < Dmcdevit> Wiktionary is still editable, even.
2008-01-02 14:33 < Sfan00> If you wisth to block for POV pushing fair enough
2008-01-02 14:33 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-01-02 14:34 < Sfan00> but I thougts blocks on WMF sites were 'evidence-based'
2008-01-02 14:34 < Ausir> brianmc: " a dangerous cult that has killed people" - let's block the catholics!
2008-01-02 14:34 < Sfan00> I am sure there would be little problem in finding such evidence
2008-01-02 14:34 < NotACow> brion: by definition, any klingon dictionary is a derivative work of Marc Okrand's work producxt for paramount. it's therefore subject to copyright claims from Paramount.
2008-01-02 14:34 < Ausir> brianmc: I doubt any other religion killed as many people as the catholics :)
2008-01-02 14:34 < britty> Ausir, hear hear
2008-01-02 14:35 < britty> but they didn't sue any website?
2008-01-02 14:35 < brianmc> So lets kill more Scientologists.... er? Did I get that right?
2008-01-02 14:35 < Sfan00> Whose the CoS sued this time?
2008-01-02 14:35 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-01-02 14:35 < NotACow> brion: it's unlikely paramount would sue or DMCA, but the foundation's general copyright principles strongly suggest that the tlh products should be made to go away
2008-01-02 14:35 < Ausir> and Catholics
2008-01-02 14:35 < brion> NotACow: maybe, maybe not
2008-01-02 14:36 < britty> Sfan00, hopefully not and theoretically I cannot give you the information
2008-01-02 14:36 < britty> either I know or not
2008-01-02 14:36 < NotACow> brion: i'm sure there are counterarguments.
2008-01-02 14:36 < NotACow> brion: and i'm not widely invested in the issue
2008-01-02 14:36 < Sfan00> britty:??
2008-01-02 14:37 < brion> indeed :)
2008-01-02 14:37 < Sfan00> Besides CoS is granted religous freedoms in the US
2008-01-02 14:37 < Sfan00> :)
2008-01-02 14:37 < brianmc> The only "fair crack of the whip" Scientologists should be given is the one setting off the horses as they're run out of town on a rail.
2008-01-02 14:37 < Dmcdevit> NotACow, In any case, it has no native literature, unlike other valuable conlangs like Esperanto, so using Wikipedia to create what would be the language's most extensive work is original research on a project-wide scale, and not in line with out educational purpose.
2008-01-02 14:38 < Sfan00> It is not for Wikimedia projects to censor religous opinion, provided it's followers follow wiki rules when contributing
2008-01-02 14:38 < britty> Sfan00, why can you argue they follow wikipedia policies and rules?
2008-01-02 14:38 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: i would agree with that
2008-01-02 14:39 < Sfan00> britty: I am not arguing that they follow them
2008-01-02 14:39 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: it's basically fancruft. interesting in its own way, but at best very tangentially alinged witht he foundations' mission.
2008-01-02 14:39 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: and the copyright problems seem to me to militate toward complete removal
2008-01-02 14:39 < brianmc> You're defending the indefensible from a position of ignorance Sfan00
2008-01-02 14:39 < MZMcBride> but should tlh.wiktionary still be editable?
2008-01-02 14:39 < Dmcdevit> Which is why it's been copied to Wikia now, and is ready to have its database locked.
2008-01-02 14:40 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: the benefit of keeping them is low to nonexistent; the risk of leaving them is small, too, but not zero
2008-01-02 14:40 < Sfan00> brianmc: Well if you block CoS do you plan to block the Natrion of Islam as well?
2008-01-02 14:40 < Sfan00> *Nation
2008-01-02 14:40 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: ironically, wikia is at greater risk as a for-profit :)
2008-01-02 14:40 < Sfan00> and various conservative churches....
2008-01-02 14:40 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: in reality, paramount doesn't seem to care much
2008-01-02 14:41 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: just don't try to publish an actual book, they have sued over that
2008-01-02 14:41 < Dmcdevit> NotACow, Yeah, but we don't care what Wikia does with its projects. ;-)
2008-01-02 14:41 < NotACow> Dmcdevit: indeed. :)
2008-01-02 14:41 < Ausir> and the catholic church
2008-01-02 14:42 < brianmc> Your argument is disingenuous and hyperbole. They have a history including ArbCom cases, not just OMG I don't like them
2008-01-02 14:42 < britty> as for scientology I only have seen their attempt to remove any external critical views
2008-01-02 14:42 < Ausir> you don't want catholic priests anywhere near your children, do you?
2008-01-02 14:42 < britty> and only put their official opinion about them into the article
2008-01-02 14:43 < ^demon> I've got nothing against banning any religion from editing. They tend to be slightly biased towards themselves and against criticism by default.
2008-01-02 14:43 < britty> Sfan00, your argument seems not based on their history at least on our project
2008-01-02 14:43 < brianmc> Some are worse than others... Then there's scientology.
2008-01-02 14:44 < britty> you raised only hypothesis not referring to what they have been doing on wmf project
2008-01-02 14:44 < Ausir> at least , unllike catholics, scientology does not have direct influence on an government
2008-01-02 14:44 < NotACow> ^demon: people who have opinions should refrain from editing anything related to the opinions they hold.
2008-01-02 14:44 < Sfan00> If they've been misbehaving on Wiki , then I would back a block
2008-01-02 14:44 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-01-02 14:44 < NotACow> ^demon: ideally all articles should be written by people who are totally ignorant of the topic they are writing about
2008-01-02 14:44 < brianmc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/COFS
2008-01-02 14:44 < britty> NotACow, heh
2008-01-02 14:45 < NotACow> britty: i'm glad SOMEONE around here appreciates irony :)
2008-01-02 14:46 < brianmc> I would argue the case that people, due to involvement, can be a credible source. Yet they have to be open about it and not lie to people who can prove them wrong.
2008-01-02 14:46 < britty> but i daresay it would be better that they aware of their ignorance
2008-01-02 14:46 < britty> most of people assume they know something and in reality not enough
2008-01-02 14:46 < Sfan00> brainmc: reading that page, I see what you mean...
2008-01-02 14:47 < NotACow> moo!
2008-01-02 14:47 < ^demon> NotACow: True
2008-01-02 14:47 < brianmc> I before A in brian!
2008-01-02 14:47 < NotACow> WANTED! IGNORANT PEOPLE TO WRITE AN ENCYCLOPEDIA!
2008-01-02 14:47 < ^demon> The best arbcom case ever was between Merkey and the Arbitors.
2008-01-02 14:47 < britty> jeff?
2008-01-02 14:47 < NotACow> there are no good arbcom cases
2008-01-02 14:47 < britty> NotACow, true
2008-01-02 14:48 < ^demon> Britty: Yes
2008-01-02 14:48 < ^demon> I've re-read it several times just for kicks.
2008-01-02 14:49 < NotACow> ^demon: that's sad
2008-01-02 14:49 * brianmc shoots NotACow for assuming we're all Wikipedians - although I have more edits on WP than Sfan00 has on WN
2008-01-02 14:49 * NotACow finds arbitration cases universally boring and annoying
2008-01-02 14:49 < NotACow> brianmc: i made no such assumption.
2008-01-02 14:49 < brianmc> I wasn't serious
2008-01-02 14:49 < ^demon> NotACow: Yeah well, something has to break the monotony of PHP development.
2008-01-02 14:49 < Sfan00> brianmc: Sorry
2008-01-02 14:50 < NotACow> ^demon: i recommend hallucinogens :)
2008-01-02 14:50 < britty> i think i have 2000+ edits on meta
2008-01-02 14:50 * brianmc has some dried mushrooms...
2008-01-02 14:50 < britty> sorry on enwiki
2008-01-02 14:50 < NotACow> i don't edit anymore, so it's a moot point :)
2008-01-02 14:50 < ^demon> I make a few edits a week, max.
2008-01-02 14:52 < brianmc> OTOH I *really* want to know what some of the good shit the BBC reporters get when they go into obscure parts of Africa is. :P
2008-01-02 14:53 < brianmc> Simpson has - apparently - tried a number of hallucinogens to gain tribal trust.
2008-01-02 14:53 < effeietsanders> brianmc: is belgium now also turning into a nederwiet country?
2008-01-02 14:53 < kim_bruning> britty, scary!
2008-01-02 14:53 < kim_bruning> britty, wikiaddict!
2008-01-02 14:54 < effeietsanders> could've known, you guys are always like 10 years behind
2008-01-02 14:54 < effeietsanders> :P
2008-01-02 14:54 < britty> hmmm but i have been on the project since 2004
2008-01-02 14:54 < effeietsanders> there is anthere the cheater!
2008-01-02 14:54 * effeietsanders psssh's
2008-01-02 14:54 < effeietsanders> ten wishes she said
2008-01-02 14:54 < britty> only 2000+ edits in four years
2008-01-02 14:54 < effeietsanders> it were at least 20! :o
2008-01-02 14:54 < britty> :D
2008-01-02 14:54 < Anthere2> 10
2008-01-02 14:55 < Anthere2> with details, that's all
2008-01-02 14:55 < brianmc> effeietsanders: Belgium hasn't legalised anything, but the criminal penalties have almost gone.
2008-01-02 14:55 < effeietsanders> Anthere2: in some wishes you said "... and ... and ..."
2008-01-02 14:55 < britty> kim_bruning, funny thing is no one including me thinks me as active part of that project
2008-01-02 14:55 < effeietsanders> that's three :P
2008-01-02 14:55 < effeietsanders> and cheating :P
2008-01-02 14:55 < Anthere2> just details
2008-01-02 14:55 < britty> ha ha ha
2008-01-02 14:55 < Anthere2> I thought I could have as many wishes as years
2008-01-02 14:55 < Submarine> brianmc, I think it's the same in the Netherlands.
2008-01-02 14:55 < Anthere2> but it could have been too much
2008-01-02 14:55 < effeietsanders> Anthere2: :D
2008-01-02 14:56 < brianmc> Yes, but Belgium doesn't have coffee shops
2008-01-02 14:56 < Submarine> Anthere2, As chair of the board, won't you publish your "wishes"?
2008-01-02 14:56 < Submarine> A bit like Sarkozy.
2008-01-02 14:56 < britty> buddhism says people have 108 desires
2008-01-02 14:56 < effeietsanders> brianmc: about the coffee shops i have heard differently...
2008-01-02 14:56 < britty> 2008 sound too much
2008-01-02 14:56 < effeietsanders> brianmc: i think you need to rediscover belgium :)
2008-01-02 14:56 < britty> Submarine, it is on wmf wiki
2008-01-02 14:56 < brianmc> They aren't legal if they exist.
2008-01-02 14:56 < britty> someone can translate it into their own languages
2008-01-02 14:57 < effeietsanders> what is the difference between legal and allowed :)