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2008-01-24 22:22 < jeremyb> Messedrocker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergy_%28software%29
2008-01-24 22:24 < jeremyb> seems synergy doesn't actually do the video part
2008-01-24 22:24 < jeremyb> but regular old VNC/RDP will handle all of the above
2008-01-24 22:29 * jeremyb chuckles Beware of Wikinews. It might blab stuff about vandals that Wikipedia might censor. 204.52.215.107 (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
2008-01-24 22:30 < jeremyb> ([[User_talk:MODX]])
2008-01-24 22:31 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-01-24 22:31 < Leslie_S> on the instructions for my hair highlighting kit, it says "do not use on eyelashes. to do so may cause blindness"
2008-01-24 22:34 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Someone tried it and sued.
2008-01-24 22:36 < Messedrocker> in any case, i decided to avoid a LOT of trouble by just directly connecting the two computers into the router
2008-01-24 22:37 < Messedrocker> anyways, if i replace windows vista with ubuntu, will i have more system resources to allocate to distributed computing?
2008-01-24 22:37 < Leslie_S> quanticle well, using foil does make sense, but maybe i should return it for a different product.
2008-01-24 22:37 < Leslie_S> quanticle it just works better with foil for obvious reasons.
2008-01-24 22:37 < Leslie_S> but wtf on earth could be in it that would react with metal
2008-01-24 22:38 < Leslie_S> especially since i have curly hair..id have to flat iron it first to use it as intended. ;/
2008-01-24 22:40 < Leslie_S> maybe i could use plastic instead of foil.
2008-01-24 22:41 < Leslie_S> that sounds good to me.
2008-01-24 22:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Foil? I'm talking about the warning against using on eyelashes...
2008-01-24 22:45 < Leslie_S> oh
2008-01-24 22:45 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-24 22:45 < Leslie_S> do you think the foil is bad to use with it?
2008-01-24 22:45 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Yes, because Vista itself uses more system resources than Ubuntu.
2008-01-24 22:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Aluminum foil?
2008-01-24 22:45 < Leslie_S> yes.
2008-01-24 22:46 < Leslie_S> which is commonly used with highlights..
2008-01-24 22:46 < quanticle> Leslie_S: I don't think it'd harm anything.
2008-01-24 22:46 < Leslie_S> ok
2008-01-24 22:46 < quanticle> Leslie_S: I think foil is used because it holds its shape better than plastic wrap...
2008-01-24 22:46 < Leslie_S> probably
2008-01-24 22:46 < Leslie_S> so uhm.....think i actually need the foil?
2008-01-24 22:47 < quanticle> Leslie_S: No idea.
2008-01-24 22:47 * quanticle has no clue about dyeing hair
2008-01-24 22:47 < Leslie_S> im not dying it
2008-01-24 22:47 < Leslie_S> im lightening
2008-01-24 22:47 < Leslie_S> big diff :P
2008-01-24 22:47 < Leslie_S> technically speaking, its a bleach mixed with a dye..
2008-01-24 22:48 < quanticle> Wait. You don't want to mix bleach and aluminum foil.
2008-01-24 22:48 < Leslie_S> its not bleach bleach.
2008-01-24 22:48 < Leslie_S> its the same stuff as in every other highlighter...
2008-01-24 22:49 < quanticle> Wait. Never mind. I was thinking of ammonia and bleach. Aluminum and bleach should be ok.
2008-01-24 22:49 < Leslie_S> ....
2008-01-24 22:49 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-24 22:50 < storyinmemo> phew.... was worried about that bleach in a can...
2008-01-24 22:50 < storyinmemo> !seen stephaknee
2008-01-24 22:50 < Leslie_S> you silly
2008-01-24 22:50 < Leslie_S> i AM stephaknee.
2008-01-24 22:50 * storyinmemo blinks
2008-01-24 22:50 < storyinmemo> well fancy that
2008-01-24 22:50 < Leslie_S> who are you? i sure dont remember you.
2008-01-24 22:51 < storyinmemo> Leslie_S: you owe me $50
2008-01-24 22:51 < storyinmemo> ooh
2008-01-24 22:51 < storyinmemo> damn nickserv
2008-01-24 22:51 < Leslie_S> oh, i completely forgot about that.
2008-01-24 22:51 < Leslie_S> isnt it more like $60?
2008-01-24 22:52 < Leslie_S> anyway, i feel kinda bad about that. i'll give you a partial payment *immediately*, and i'll have it fully paid as soon as possible.
2008-01-24 22:52 < Leslie_S> PM me the info to send you the money.
2008-01-24 22:53 < Leslie_S> you know what sucks though, is i never even went to that college that i needed that money to apply for. :(
2008-01-24 22:53 < autocracy> Leslie_S: yeah, i remember you didn't make it to alaska....
2008-01-24 22:53 < autocracy> what's up these days?
2008-01-24 22:53 < Leslie_S> autocracy not much. i have a decent part time job.
2008-01-24 22:53 < Leslie_S> with stable work
2008-01-24 22:54 < Leslie_S> anyway, i'll pay you like $15 in a few days and then a little more in two weeks when i get my next paycheck. i woudl just pay it off in full next pay check, but im getting my hours cut. and this check is the one that most of my bills come out of.. :P
2008-01-24 22:55 < autocracy> oh, yeah... bills... heh... forgot to pay those :-/
2008-01-24 22:56 < Leslie_S> autocracy i never forget to pay important bills. i missed a car payment recently though (its a personal loan from a friend...no credit reporting involved...), and i miss my XM payments sometimes, but thats really XM's fault.
2008-01-24 22:57 < Leslie_S> XM is like the crappiest company ever. they'll let me get 3 months behind before they ever say anything. At one point i got a courtesy call because i hadnt paid in a couple months, because i thought i had automatic payments on it... LOL.
2008-01-24 22:57 < Leslie_S> of course, its like $10/month, so its not like it hurts much when i pay more than one month at a time.
2008-01-24 22:58 < LuciferTiger> anyone watched todays drawn together?
2008-01-24 22:58 < Leslie_S> seriously, wtf.
2008-01-24 22:58 < LuciferTiger> yeah, wtf.
2008-01-24 22:59 < Leslie_S> the funniest part is theyll send me bills with "Collections" in front of the return address, when im not behind at all.
2008-01-24 22:59 < Leslie_S> anyway, they dont seem to report credit.
2008-01-24 22:59 < ianhan> how long does it take for a node that was deleted for the wrong reason to come back?
2008-01-24 22:59 < ianhan> speaking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_Fun_Electronics
2008-01-24 22:59 < Leslie_S> which is good, because they seem too stupid to handle that.
2008-01-24 22:59 < Leslie_S> ianhan a node?
2008-01-24 23:00 < quanticle> ianhan: What do you mean. Deleted articles are not usually restored.
2008-01-24 23:00 < quanticle> *What do you mean?
2008-01-24 23:01 < ianhan> it was deleted under the guise that it was advertising, but it wasn't advertising, it mentioned how this very unique company came to be and what they did, just like any other historic node about a company
2008-01-24 23:01 < ianhan> "(Speedy deleted per (CSD G11), was blatant advertising, used only to promote someone or something.)"
2008-01-24 23:01 < quanticle> ianhan: It won't be restored.
2008-01-24 23:01 < Leslie_S> WTF is a node?
2008-01-24 23:02 < quanticle> Leslie_S: An article.
2008-01-24 23:02 < Leslie_S> and why would it just magically be restored?
2008-01-24 23:02 < ianhan> node = article
2008-01-24 23:02 < quanticle> Leslie_S: He's talking about Wikipedia in graph theory terms, where nodes are articles and edges are links between articles.
2008-01-24 23:02 < ianhan> exactly
2008-01-24 23:03 < ianhan> so should I just create the article again?
2008-01-24 23:04 < LuciferTiger> yup
2008-01-24 23:04 < quanticle> ianhan: Well, if you honestly believe the deletion was wrong, you can recreate it with a note on the talk page describing your reasoning.
2008-01-24 23:04 < ianhan> cool, thanks
2008-01-24 23:05 < Alkivar> ahahahahaha
2008-01-24 23:05 < Alkivar> so apparently i'm on DJ John B's blog at the moment
2008-01-24 23:06 < Alkivar> cause my friend had hysterical retro hair at one of his gigs
2008-01-24 23:06 < Alkivar> http://john-b.blogspot.com/2008/01/as-seen-in-front-row-at-my-gig-in.html
2008-01-24 23:06 < Leslie_S> so how bad does hair highlighting stink?
2008-01-24 23:06 < Alkivar> bbbbbaaaaaad
2008-01-24 23:06 < Leslie_S> wow, thats even more reason to have my friend do it at her place..heh
2008-01-24 23:06 < autocracy> ... wow
2008-01-24 23:06 < Leslie_S> Alkivar is it worse than nair?
2008-01-24 23:06 < Alkivar> yes
2008-01-24 23:06 < Leslie_S> omfg
2008-01-24 23:06 < autocracy> that looks like... uh... one of those scenes where a sword went through somebody's head
2008-01-24 23:07 < autocracy> and it's just sliding down at an angle
2008-01-24 23:07 < autocracy> all faux-samurai style
2008-01-24 23:07 < Alkivar> i think i'd had about 10 or 11 vodka redbulls in that photo... i was traaaashed
2008-01-24 23:07 < Leslie_S> Alkivar and uhm, its one of those products that claims you dont need to use foil, but.......wont it stain other hair if it gets on it?
2008-01-24 23:07 < Leslie_S> Alkivar: i have reallly curly hair..
2008-01-24 23:07 < autocracy> Alkivar: which is you?
2008-01-24 23:07 < Alkivar> the one in the hat
2008-01-24 23:08 < Leslie_S> nice picture, LOL
2008-01-24 23:08 < Alkivar> Leslie: it depends on the chemical... some react to foil so they say dont use it
2008-01-24 23:08 < autocracy> hmm... i think that beats my crystal method concert from years ago
2008-01-24 23:08 < Leslie_S> Alkivar oh, really? anyway, it claims you dont need it. how can that be possible?
2008-01-24 23:09 < Leslie_S> it seems like itd look like crap without it..
2008-01-24 23:09 < cast> i have a question...do you think a 7kg front loader washing machine will be able to handle my queen sized polyester fillied dovet?
2008-01-24 23:10 < autocracy> cast: does it fit with room to spare?
2008-01-24 23:10 < autocracy> cast: bascially, if you stick it in, is at least 1/3 air? if yes. wash.
2008-01-24 23:10 < autocracy> Leslie_S: so what's the job?
2008-01-24 23:10 * cast looks
2008-01-24 23:11 < Leslie_S> autocracy i stock shelves at walmart.
2008-01-24 23:11 < Leslie_S> im gonna apply for a job at meijers, across the street, in the morning. lol
2008-01-24 23:11 < autocracy> Leslie_S: you gotta get yourself a better position.
2008-01-24 23:11 < Leslie_S> autocracy im trying to.
2008-01-24 23:11 < cast> i'd say its 1/7th or 1/6th air
2008-01-24 23:11 < Leslie_S> autocracy i nearly got a job as a plain clothes asset protection associate
2008-01-24 23:12 < Leslie_S> at walmart
2008-01-24 23:12 < cast> its no where near 7.0kg of dovet though
2008-01-24 23:12 < autocracy> cast: do it
2008-01-24 23:12 < Leslie_S> Alkivar do you think it would look ok if i didnt use foil and didnt flat iron? ;/
2008-01-24 23:12 < cast> ill put the spin speed down so it don't self distruct
2008-01-24 23:12 < autocracy> Leslie_S: still working the college?
2008-01-24 23:12 < cast> its under warranty
2008-01-24 23:13 < Leslie_S> autocracy im at college.
2008-01-24 23:13 < Leslie_S> er, in
2008-01-24 23:13 < Leslie_S> not currently at..
2008-01-24 23:14 < autocracy> Leslie_S: well that confused me
2008-01-24 23:14 < cast> id does have a dovet setting so one would think :x
2008-01-24 23:15 < Leslie_S> autocracy im currently at home and its 11pm. but im going to school in the morning.
2008-01-24 23:16 < autocracy> cast: it's a fluffly bed covering. wash. it'll be fine
2008-01-24 23:16 < Leslie_S> does that help? :P
2008-01-24 23:16 < autocracy> Leslie_S: right right
2008-01-24 23:16 < Alkivar> so ron paul got fucked by louisiana
2008-01-24 23:17 < cast> interesting, 90% of EU uses front loading, but only 5% of the US does
2008-01-24 23:17 < Leslie_S> hmm
2008-01-24 23:17 < quanticle> Alkivar: Is Ron Paul out of the running yet?
2008-01-24 23:17 < Alkivar> nope
2008-01-24 23:17 < Leslie_S> should i color the rest of my hair too?
2008-01-24 23:17 < Leslie_S> ;/
2008-01-24 23:17 < Alkivar> he's got enough money to last through february
2008-01-24 23:17 < Alkivar> he made another 1.8 mil in donations monday night
2008-01-24 23:17 < quanticle> Alkivar: So probably post super-Tuesday, then...
2008-01-24 23:17 < Alkivar> yep
2008-01-24 23:18 < Alkivar> and huckabee's campaign is broke
2008-01-24 23:18 < cast> Leslie_S: if girl: yes else no
2008-01-24 23:18 < autocracy> i like front-loading washers... *shrug*
2008-01-24 23:18 < Alkivar> so based on support and $$$ it'll be romney, mccain and paul racing to the end it appears
2008-01-24 23:19 < Leslie_S> cast what if...sorta girl?
2008-01-24 23:19 * autocracy leans back and watches
2008-01-24 23:21 < Alkivar> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/paul-alleges-bo.html
2008-01-24 23:21 < cast> sorta girl -> girl -> dye the rest!
2008-01-24 23:21 < Leslie_S> what would i look like as a blonde? :/
2008-01-24 23:22 * cast points at photoshop
2008-01-24 23:22 < cast> erm, i mean, the gimp!
2008-01-24 23:22 < Leslie_S> i cant do that, heh.
2008-01-24 23:23 < Leslie_S> cast but the look of brown with bold streaky highlights is cool too though.. :/
2008-01-24 23:23 < cast> i think dark hair looks more classy, but thats just me
2008-01-24 23:23 < Leslie_S> i dont like ultra light blonde at all, but the darker blondes are awesome.
2008-01-24 23:24 < Leslie_S> but the brown with bold streaky blonde highlights is awesome
2008-01-24 23:24 * cast shaves his head though, so what would he know
2008-01-24 23:25 < Leslie_S> im going to bed. i think ill just go with my highlights
2008-01-24 23:25 < Leslie_S> maybe ill try just going blonde another time..heh
2008-01-24 23:26 < autocracy> Leslie_S: donate to ron paul and i'll be happy ;)
2008-01-24 23:26 < Leslie_S> autocracy but i like obama!
2008-01-24 23:26 < Leslie_S> autocracy to be honest, i suppose it would be just like if i paid you and you donated it to him. but.....how would you know i really did it?
2008-01-24 23:27 < Leslie_S> i mean, i have an actual concious and wouldnt feel right if i lied about it, but..heh.
2008-01-24 23:27 < autocracy> Leslie_S: what expectation did i have to see it, or recourse if i didn't to begin with?
2008-01-24 23:28 < Leslie_S> autocracy i dont know.
2008-01-24 23:28 < autocracy> 'twas in good faith
2008-01-24 23:28 < Leslie_S> autocracy wouldnt you feel better if you knew for a fact that i actually sent it?
2008-01-24 23:28 < Leslie_S> autocracy of course, there are certain ways i could pay you where the payment would take several months to bounce..
2008-01-24 23:28 < Leslie_S> autocracy but im not like that. heh.
2008-01-24 23:28 < cast> amazes me how little water this front loader uses
2008-01-24 23:29 < cast> i was expecting it to come up to the glass, but it doesn't seem too at all
2008-01-24 23:29 < autocracy> cast: just got your new favorite toy, didn't you?
2008-01-24 23:29 < cast> possibly. ^_^
2008-01-24 23:30 < Leslie_S> water?
2008-01-24 23:30 < Leslie_S> wtf?
2008-01-24 23:32 < cast> Leslie_S: washing machine, not earth moving machinary
2008-01-24 23:32 < Leslie_S> uh
2008-01-24 23:32 < Leslie_S> oh.
2008-01-24 23:32 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-24 23:34 < autocracy> 7kg loader.... best tonka toy ever!
2008-01-24 23:34 < Leslie_S> good night guys
2008-01-24 23:34 < autocracy> 'night
2008-01-24 23:34 < Leslie_S> and autocracy, do you want a check or a donation to ron paul?
2008-01-24 23:35 < autocracy> Leslie_S: leave it up to you... you've got my addy
2008-01-24 23:35 < Leslie_S> ill just donate it if thats cool. seems easier. my concious will cause me to actually do it. :P
2008-01-24 23:35 < Leslie_S> ron paul's ok in my book, so.. :)
2008-01-24 23:42 < Icewedge> Hi
2008-01-24 23:48 < Alkivar> http://ajanlo.kapu.hu/pics.php?d=gyerekneveles
2008-01-24 23:48 < Alkivar> lulz
2008-01-24 23:54 < JerseyDevil86> wow romney just beat ron paul in an online msnbc poll
2008-01-24 23:55 < Alkivar> http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/22/woman-said-she-killed-mom-to-go-to-jail-just/
2008-01-24 23:55 < Alkivar> holy evil mugshot batman!
2008-01-24 23:56 < Alkivar> this poll jersey: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22830366/
2008-01-24 23:56 < Alkivar> cause Ron Paul is winning in every category there
2008-01-24 23:58 < Alkivar> if you mean the wsj/nbc polls... its not really collected online... its a phone based poll
2008-01-25 00:35 < Lubaf> 2+2=5, for sufficiently large values of 2 and sufficiently small values of 5.
2008-01-25 00:51 < LuciferTiger> nice Lubaf
2008-01-25 00:51 < Lubaf> Overground / Watch this face / I hoping / To fall from grace...
2008-01-25 00:53 < jeremyb> Lubaf: LuciferTiger: huh?
2008-01-25 00:54 < jeremyb> 2 and 5 are precise values
2008-01-25 00:54 < Lubaf> jeremyb: Not if you're rounding.
2008-01-25 00:54 < jeremyb> Lubaf: you're typically not rounding if you haven't said that you are
2008-01-25 00:54 < Mopper_homework> Hello, big wide world.
2008-01-25 00:54 < Lubaf> 2.4 + 2.4 (both round down to 2) = 4.8 (rounds up to 5).
2008-01-25 00:54 < LuciferTiger> jeremy: its called a joke
2008-01-25 00:55 < Lubaf> jeremyb: I did say "sufficiently large values of 2".
2008-01-25 00:55 < Lubaf> It's possible to get 2+2=3, by the same logic.
2008-01-25 00:56 < Lubaf> 1.6+1.6=3.2.
2008-01-25 00:56 < jeremyb> Lubaf: yes i saw and didn't understand
2008-01-25 00:56 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-01-25 00:56 < Lubaf> How's murder?
2008-01-25 00:56 < jeremyb> LuciferTiger: well of course. but it should still make sense
2008-01-25 00:56 * jeremyb boggles
2008-01-25 00:57 * PresidentRonPaul  
2008-01-25 00:58 * PresidentRonPaul                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
2008-01-25 00:58 < jeremyb> ?
2008-01-25 00:58 < jeremyb> #
2008-01-25 00:58 < Mopper_homework> Lol @ Fnord.
2008-01-25 00:59 < Mopper_homework> Anyone here who knows dispute resolution interested in looking at something to do with dispute resolution?
2008-01-25 01:05 < Drunken_Idiot> HI
2008-01-25 01:17 < Lubaf> Mopper_homework: You're better off asking on-wiki.
2008-01-25 01:17 < Drunken_Idiot> Hi Lubaf man.
2008-01-25 01:18 < Lubaf> Drunken_Idiot: You ever consider getting a less descriptive nick?
2008-01-25 01:18 < Lubaf> I always assume you're drunk.
2008-01-25 01:18 < Mopper_homework> Lubaf: Thanks, I have.
2008-01-25 01:18 < Lubaf> Try your Wikipedia username, assuming that's not Drunken_Idiot.
2008-01-25 01:18 < Mopper_homework> Was just checkin' IRC :)
2008-01-25 01:21 < Drunken_Idiot> There you go
2008-01-25 01:23 < brown_cat> omg, I love this ride http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_Escape :D
2008-01-25 01:23 * LuciferTiger watches brown_cat
2008-01-25 01:24 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-25 01:24 * brown_cat licks LuciferTiger
2008-01-25 01:24 < LuciferTiger> keep your sandpaper tongue off my chapped cheeks
2008-01-25 01:25 * LuciferTiger pats brown_cat ... sho schweet... nice pussy....
2008-01-25 01:25 < bumm13> :P
2008-01-25 01:25 * brown_cat cuddles LuciferTiger
2008-01-25 01:26 * doorbell rings
2008-01-25 01:26 * Pizza_man enters
2008-01-25 01:26 < Pizza_man> I believe someone ordered a pizza?
2008-01-25 01:27 * jeremyb will take one
2008-01-25 01:27 < Mopper> Sorry, thought it was a porno for a second.
2008-01-25 01:27 < LuciferTiger> yes i did
2008-01-25 01:27 < LuciferTiger> its for my cat.
2008-01-25 01:27 < Triona> explains the anchovies
2008-01-25 01:27 * brown_cat punches pizzathief_
2008-01-25 01:27 < bumm13> and thus, the cats
2008-01-25 01:27 < bumm13> (ah, nm)
2008-01-25 01:28 < LuciferTiger> there u go brown_cat ... stuff yourself
2008-01-25 01:28 < LuciferTiger> and i have lasagna going in the oven
2008-01-25 01:28 * brown_cat gives LuciferTiger a cookie
2008-01-25 01:29 < LuciferTiger> do you want a dog on the edge of the table for dessert?
2008-01-25 01:29 < LuciferTiger> WHERES THE REST OF THEM???
2008-01-25 01:29 < brown_cat> omg
2008-01-25 01:29 < brown_cat> lmfao
2008-01-25 01:29 < brown_cat> http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNYzj6tw7XA
2008-01-25 01:31 < Suva> Hmm, the RJ CG won't give up on the "house of representatives" thing
2008-01-25 01:34 < LuciferTiger> Holy Sh.... what six flags is it?
2008-01-25 01:34 < LuciferTiger> http://www.atheistnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=21929
2008-01-25 01:34 < LuciferTiger> garfield without garfield
2008-01-25 01:35 < brown_cat> LuciferTiger: six flags has had so many accidents!
2008-01-25 01:35 < LuciferTiger> more fun!
2008-01-25 01:36 < brown_cat> lmfao, garfield without garfield xD
2008-01-25 01:37 < Cyrius> http://www.lasagnacat.com/
2008-01-25 01:41 < LuciferTiger> actually i saw one originally which was a TON better than the ones i posted
2008-01-25 01:44 < brown_cat> I LOVE natgeo :D
2008-01-25 01:50 < jeremyb> brown_cat: the magazine?
2008-01-25 01:51 * Mike_H competed in the National Geography Bee when I was younger
2008-01-25 01:55 < brown_cat> jeremyb: no, the channel - I live on it
2008-01-25 01:55 < brown_cat> <3 air craft investegation + megastructures
2008-01-25 01:55 < brown_cat> <3 all the shows on discovery too ^_^
2008-01-25 01:55 * FastLizard4 has to go to sleep now, will be back on tomorrow, good night!
2008-01-25 01:56 < LuciferTiger> discovery + history + nat geo = dont need anything else.
2008-01-25 01:56 < brown_cat> cyaz! :D
2008-01-25 02:06 < LuciferTiger> im straight... but i might have just composed The T-Shirt Slogan for all gay men out there...
2008-01-25 02:06 < LuciferTiger> "Real men dont do pussies"
2008-01-25 02:07 < LuciferTiger> anyways, cya later
2008-01-25 02:19 < brown_cat_> back :D
2008-01-25 02:20 < brown_cat_> where's lucifertiger?
2008-01-25 02:20 < Mike_H> <LuciferTiger> anyways, cya later
2008-01-25 02:20 < Mike_H> * LuciferTiger has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]")
2008-01-25 02:20 < brown_cat_> :(
2008-01-25 02:20 < brown_cat_> I was gonna say how annoying the history channel is :(
2008-01-25 02:21 < brown_cat_> they promo for like a month "next month on history, could hitler be alive"
2008-01-25 02:21 < Luna-San> They apparently have about one show a month, yeah...
2008-01-25 02:21 < ronabop> The Hitlery Channel really needs some more topics...
2008-01-25 02:22 < brown_cat_> then, I watch it and the final line of the show is something like "in concluding it is impossible for hitler to have ever been alive"
2008-01-25 02:22 < brown_cat_> not that in your face but, that is essentially what they say ---
2008-01-25 02:22 < brown_cat_> -_-*
2008-01-25 02:22 < brown_cat_> Luna-San: I mean, they run promos for a month, not a month long xD
2008-01-25 02:22 * ronabop wishes TV's came with a Godwin's Chip.
2008-01-25 02:22 < Evil_Monkey> considering he would be 110 or something nowadays
2008-01-25 02:22 < Luna-San> Yeah, but they just keep advertising the same show over and over. :<
2008-01-25 02:23 < brown_cat_> mhm xD
2008-01-25 02:23 < Luna-San> Discovery Channel at least has Dirty Jobs and whatever random flavor of the month "let's blow shit up" show. >.>
2008-01-25 02:23 < Evil_Monkey> If Discovery could, I'm sure they would have just Dirty Jobs, Mythbusters and Deadliest Catch
2008-01-25 02:23 < Luna-San> And some medical shows. >.> But I think they spun those off to a different network?
2008-01-25 02:23 < Luna-San> Heh, yeah
2008-01-25 02:24 < Evil_Monkey> not that I don't love them
2008-01-25 02:24 < brown_cat_> xD
2008-01-25 02:24 < brown_cat_> I get sick of them after a while -_-
2008-01-25 02:24 < brown_cat_> I love the building shows :D
2008-01-25 02:24 < Evil_Monkey> I have noticed that Mythbusters hasn't been that great as of late. Like "can you stick your tongue to a frozen pole"
2008-01-25 02:25 < Luna-San> I notice I'm getting less and less interested in that show, over time. I used to watch it lovingly.
2008-01-25 02:26 < brown_cat_> :p
2008-01-25 02:26 < Luna-San> But I happened to spy a Monk marathon, and it earned my love. <3
2008-01-25 02:26 < brown_cat_> am i a douche for being happy that heath ledger is dead?
2008-01-25 02:27 < Evil_Monkey> brown_cat: nope, just related to John Gibson :-P
2008-01-25 02:27 < brown_cat_> xD
2008-01-25 02:28 < brown_cat_> Evil_Monkey: no, everyone in my school hates him for 2 reasons
2008-01-25 02:28 < brown_cat_> 1) he was born in our city and went to our enemy school
2008-01-25 02:28 < brown_cat_> 2) they temp teachers play 10 things I hate about you every time they come in
2008-01-25 02:28 < Evil_Monkey> At the Aussie Open, one of the players at the press conference commented that she was worried about her doctor giving her too much painkillers and she would die like Heath Ledger
2008-01-25 02:28 < Evil_Monkey> I was like "WTF!!"
2008-01-25 02:28 < brown_cat_> lmfao
2008-01-25 02:29 < Evil_Monkey> she seriously just suggested that she was worried about her doctor giving her an overdose!
2008-01-25 02:29 < brown_cat_> xD lmao
2008-01-25 02:29 < brown_cat_> hahaha
2008-01-25 02:30 < Evil_Monkey> "Conventions like this were common in the 19th century, when party bosses in smoke-filled rooms determined the nominees. When no-smoking bans started to appear all over the place, the parties had to adapt, so the current primary/caucus system began to take shape."
2008-01-25 02:30 < Evil_Monkey> so it was smoking bans that caused primaries!
2008-01-25 02:31 < brown_cat_> xD hahaa
2008-01-25 02:32 < Evil_Monkey> brown_cat_: want more hilarity - I'm drinking a beer called "Hoegaarden"
2008-01-25 02:32 < brown_cat_> hahahahahahahahaa lmfao
2008-01-25 02:33 < brown_cat_> omg, xD
2008-01-25 02:33 < Evil_Monkey> in fact - [[Hoegaarden]]
2008-01-25 02:33 < brown_cat_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoegaarden
2008-01-25 02:33 < brown_cat_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoegaarden_Brewery
2008-01-25 02:34 < brown_cat_> Hoegaarden is from Belgium? O_o
2008-01-25 02:34 < brown_cat_> NAZI!!!
2008-01-25 02:34 * ronabop ponders a Godwin IRC plug-in
2008-01-25 02:35 < brown_cat_> ummmm
2008-01-25 02:35 < Evil_Monkey> ahh - what a Friday night. Belgium beer, Bridget Jones 2: Electric Boogaloo on TV, and #wikipedia.
2008-01-25 02:35 < brown_cat_> can someone help me?
2008-01-25 02:35 < brown_cat_> can you look at the top of the list of all the language wiki's in the sidebar - why is there one next to Afrikkans?
2008-01-25 02:35 < brown_cat_> kaa*
2008-01-25 02:39 < Mike_H> Evil_Monkey: I'm going to the leather bar on Friday night.
2008-01-25 02:39 < Mike_H> yay
2008-01-25 02:39 < Mike_H> (it's only 2:41 a.m. on Friday morning here)
2008-01-25 02:40 < brown_cat_> Evil_Monkey: the best line from the cat in the hat xD http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=u3HTvWmpL_c
2008-01-25 02:42 < Evil_Monkey> Mike_H: slightly different to my night :-)
2008-01-25 02:43 < Evil_Monkey> I love that [[Leather subculture]] features a photo of the biker from the Village People
2008-01-25 02:50 * Mike_H NP: Cliff Richard - Devil Woman (1976)
2008-01-25 02:53 * Evil_Monkey np Supergroove - Sitting Inside My Head
2008-01-25 02:56 * brown_cat_ np Gorillaz - Kids with guns
2008-01-25 02:56 < brown_cat_> ^_^
2008-01-25 03:06 < _frederik_> hello, when i load a page in wikipedia, the text comes up but the load stalls before any images appear
2008-01-25 03:06 < _frederik_> "Transferring data from en.wikipedia.org..."
2008-01-25 03:07 < _frederik_> is this likely to be a local problem?
2008-01-25 03:08 < Evil_Monkey> _frederik_: I would guess so. No problems for me.
2008-01-25 03:08 < brown_cat_> _frederik_: jimmy took some of the money which was meant for hardware to spend it on producing an autobiography - there will be problems for this financial year :)
2008-01-25 03:11 < Evil_Monkey> brown_cat_: Blasphemy! anything Jimmy does must be good for Wikipedia. :-)
2008-01-25 03:12 < brown_cat_> Evil_Monkey: xD that must have been what he was thinking when he started wikia... or when he had that child porn search engine
2008-01-25 03:13 < Evil_Monkey> brown_cat_: going to [[bomis]] reminded me that of all "film stars" those that are in porn seem to be the most likely to have free-use photos
2008-01-25 03:14 < brown_cat_> hahaha xD
2008-01-25 03:14 < Evil_Monkey> studios need to start having conventions
2008-01-25 03:16 < brown_cat_> NOW PLAYING: Megastructures: MBCI Prison
2008-01-25 03:18 < _frederik_> oh well
2008-01-25 03:18 < _frederik_> "surely his wikipedia article is a good enough autobiography"
2008-01-25 03:19 * Evil_Monkey did something stupid
2008-01-25 03:19 < Evil_Monkey> I couldn't work out why one of my photos had been deleted from commons
2008-01-25 03:19 < Evil_Monkey> then I realized I'd uploaded it from commons where it had an CC-BY-SA-NC license
2008-01-25 03:28 < Triona> brown_cat_: what channel?
2008-01-25 03:33 < mrfag> Hello
2008-01-25 03:33 < mrfag> Does anyone in here know anything about tax code?
2008-01-25 03:37 < Luna-San> It exists...
2008-01-25 03:37 < Luna-San> Probably good to clarify which country you're asking about, too.
2008-01-25 03:48 < Zenwhat> Hey, any folks have their opinion on this?
2008-01-25 03:48 < Zenwhat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29#Wikimedia.27s_statistics_are_not_trustworthy.5CEvidence_Wikipedia_is_failing.
2008-01-25 03:48 < Zenwhat> I'd appreciate it. I was doing research for [[WP:FAIL]] and found that Wikimedia's data collection has been sparse and sloppy.
2008-01-25 03:59 * Mike_H NP: ABBA - Mamma Mia (1975)
2008-01-25 04:10 < Celestialdragoon> lol wow i did't think there would be this many people on here
2008-01-25 04:11 < Luna-San> And yet none of them talking! :p
2008-01-25 04:11 < Celestialdragoon> haha
2008-01-25 04:11 < Celestialdragoon> thats sucks....how long have you been in here?
2008-01-25 04:12 < Luna-San> Me? Too long. Been a regular for maybe a year and a half.
2008-01-25 04:12 < Celestialdragoon> whoa um...omg..err...i'm new to the whore IRC thing xD :|
2008-01-25 04:14 < Luna-San> IRC is oooold. :p
2008-01-25 04:14 < Celestialdragoon> i can guess that....lol
2008-01-25 04:15 < Celestialdragoon> i found out that IRC have been around for a really long time..i just don't know how long
2008-01-25 04:17 < Luna-San> Eh... if memory serves, the first networks sprang up in the early to mid 90s?
2008-01-25 04:17 < Celestialdragoon> lol so more than ten years...lol
2008-01-25 04:17 < jhattara> does this edit make the article less clear ? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iraq&diff=next&oldid=186622722
2008-01-25 04:18 < Celestialdragoon> so whats the deal with this channel? is it a supporting group for wiki?
2008-01-25 04:18 < Luna-San> jhattara: They felt a need to clarify, which suggests the old version was ambiguous, but I'm not sure what they mean, either...
2008-01-25 04:19 < Luna-San> Theoretically this channel's for discussing stuff relevant to Wikipedia (which does happen); in practice people shoot the breeze.
2008-01-25 04:19 < jhattara> that sounds like the _borders_ of Iraq, and not Iraq itself, was the center of those empires
2008-01-25 04:19 < jhattara> i think i'll just revert it
2008-01-25 04:20 < Luna-San> So... if those empires formed a donut, Iraq would be the donut hole?
2008-01-25 04:20 < Celestialdragoon> and will i be able to eat it?
2008-01-25 04:21 < Luna-San> Yes.
2008-01-25 04:21 < Luna-San> But it's filled with sand.
2008-01-25 04:21 < Celestialdragoon> blah....a sand filled donut
2008-01-25 04:21 < yao_ziyuan> i have a revelation about that phrase: "responsible stakeholder"
2008-01-25 04:21 < yao_ziyuan> it is used by the us government to address the chinese government
2008-01-25 04:21 < yao_ziyuan> now i seem to understand deeper what it means...
2008-01-25 04:22 < yao_ziyuan> look at saddam...
2008-01-25 04:22 < yao_ziyuan> he is a stakeholder. he has oil. but he is not "politically responsible"
2008-01-25 04:22 < yao_ziyuan> and he's gone.
2008-01-25 04:22 < Celestialdragoon> lol
2008-01-25 04:22 < yao_ziyuan> so, this phrase is actually a threat...
2008-01-25 04:23 < Luna-San> Hmm. An interesting note.
2008-01-25 04:23 < Luna-San> But it doesn't seem threatening unless they notably *stop* calling someone a responsible stakeholder.
2008-01-25 04:24 < yao_ziyuan> no. the original statement is "call for china to be a responsible stakeholder"
2008-01-25 04:24 < Luna-San> Oh, I see. So the implication is that they're currently not.
2008-01-25 04:24 < yao_ziyuan> yeah...
2008-01-25 04:24 < Luna-San> Hm. o.o
2008-01-25 04:25 < Luna-San> That's still pretty subtle and diplomatic, though; I think it's just a small pressure.
2008-01-25 04:25 < Celestialdragoon> o.o
2008-01-25 04:26 < yao_ziyuan> i don't know. maybe it's just my fancy hyperrelation
2008-01-25 04:26 < yao_ziyuan> actually saddam has no threat to america but why is he gone?
2008-01-25 04:26 < Celestialdragoon> we hung him :x
2008-01-25 04:27 < Celestialdragoon> wait...no we did't..
2008-01-25 04:28 < yao_ziyuan> it's is the neocon's way of manifest destiny: first middle east, then far east
2008-01-25 04:28 < Celestialdragoon> um...who is "neocon"?
2008-01-25 04:28 < Luna-San> Two coasts weren't enough! :p
2008-01-25 04:29 < yao_ziyuan> after wiping out all the dictators on earth, we will have a world government, and then go space colonization
2008-01-25 04:29 < yao_ziyuan> of course, everyone will be using english by then
2008-01-25 04:29 < Celestialdragoon> yea i don't think i'ma live long enough to see that
2008-01-25 04:30 < yao_ziyuan> Celestialdragoon: things happen soon than you expect
2008-01-25 04:30 < yao_ziyuan> at least this "everyone able to use english" one, is totally under my fingers
2008-01-25 04:30 < yao_ziyuan> Celestialdragoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
2008-01-25 04:30 < Luna-San> Unified language is probably a ways off.
2008-01-25 04:30 < Celestialdragoon> lol
2008-01-25 04:31 < Luna-San> But worldwide bilingualism might be doable.
2008-01-25 04:31 < Celestialdragoon> i speak english....:p and i know spanish...but i want to know more than that...
2008-01-25 04:32 < Luna-San> Right.
2008-01-25 04:32 < yao_ziyuan> Luna-San: people can naturally learn english if they have a web browser plugin that automatically uses english to express some words in the web page...
2008-01-25 04:32 < Luna-San> That'd probably help.
2008-01-25 04:32 < Luna-San> Daily practice is key.
2008-01-25 04:32 < Luna-San> I should hang around #wikipedia-de more often. :p
2008-01-25 04:32 < yao_ziyuan> i'm gonna develop this browser extension
2008-01-25 04:33 < Triona> Hmm... what happened to the unified login that was supposedly in the works 2+ years ago?
2008-01-25 04:33 < Celestialdragoon> ha...now theres a loophole
2008-01-25 04:34 < Luna-San> Triona: It'll be done juuuuust after Duke Nukem Forever is released, I hear. =\
2008-01-25 04:34 < Celestialdragoon> ha-ha
2008-01-25 04:35 < Celestialdragoon> there was a random trailer out
2008-01-25 04:35 < Luna-San> Hmm?
2008-01-25 04:36 < Celestialdragoon> i meant a trailer for the game..it's nothing special....it's teh worst CG i've ever seen..lol
2008-01-25 04:36 < yao_ziyuan> under saddam, iraq's oil export is not a free trade, is it? i remember a phrase 'oil for food'
2008-01-25 04:37 < yao_ziyuan> so bringing down saddam does have a reason
2008-01-25 04:37 < Celestialdragoon> fighting for food?...people are dying over oil and food...crap crap...-1 for american :(
2008-01-25 04:37 * yao_ziyuan looks up wp for operation iraqi freedom
2008-01-25 04:37 < Celestialdragoon> america*
2008-01-25 04:39 < yao_ziyuan> "In April 2001, Bush's Cabinet agreed to use military intervention in Iraq, because it was considered a destabilizing influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East."
2008-01-25 04:39 < Celestialdragoon> err....
2008-01-25 04:41 < yao_ziyuan> in April someyear, Someone's Cabinet agreed to use military intervention in China,
2008-01-25 04:42 < yao_ziyuan> because it was considered a destabilizing influence to the flow of cheap goods
2008-01-25 04:42 < yao_ziyuan> to international markets from China.
2008-01-25 04:46 < Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject notable urinals in South Dakota]]: Top that!
2008-01-25 04:47 < yao_ziyuan> good to know iraq can sell as much oil as it can now...
2008-01-25 04:47 < yao_ziyuan> not just for food...
2008-01-25 04:47 < yao_ziyuan> if it is really so, russia wouldn't have a good economy
2008-01-25 04:49 < yao_ziyuan> "On 22 May 2003, UN Security Council Resolution 1483 granted authority to the Coalition Provisional Authority to use Iraq's oil revenue. The programme's remaining funds of $10 billion were transferred over a 6 month winding-up period to the Development Fund for Iraq under the Coalition Provisional Authority's control; this represented 14% of the programme's total income over 5 years."
2008-01-25 04:51 < yao_ziyuan> Iraqi Oil Exports Rise by 9.2 Percent / The Associated Press - 15 hours ago
2008-01-25 04:51 < yao_ziyuan> seems russia is going to decline...
2008-01-25 04:53 < JKnitter> #ubuntu-de
2008-01-25 05:04 < Celestialdragoon> i'm scared now...lol
2008-01-25 05:19 * brown_cat__ undresses
2008-01-25 05:20 < Luna-San> o.o!
2008-01-25 05:20 * ryan_the_lion sits on Luna-San's lap
2008-01-25 05:22 < Celestialdragoon> i like where this is going
2008-01-25 05:22 * Celestialdragoon gets popcorn
2008-01-25 05:23 * ronabop gets the lube, and by "lube". I mean net-nanny filters
2008-01-25 05:23 * ryan_the_lion licks Luna-San
2008-01-25 05:24 * Celestialdragoon eats popcron
2008-01-25 05:24 < Celestialdragoon> uh...corn*
2008-01-25 05:24 < Celestialdragoon> hey i did't say stop
2008-01-25 05:24 < SPUI> cocporn
2008-01-25 05:25 * ronabop creates a popcorn cron job
2008-01-25 05:25 * ryan_the_lion drugs Luna-San then takes him to a gay bar and walks off
2008-01-25 05:26 < Celestialdragoon> i am the gay bar :X
2008-01-25 05:27 < thedj> anyone else having this problem ?
2008-01-25 05:27 < thedj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#CategoryTree_broken
2008-01-25 05:38 < Celestialdragoon> bye-bye
2008-01-25 05:40 < _frederik_> what is CategoryTree
2008-01-25 06:26 < Moof> heya
2008-01-25 06:27 < Moof> where does one post CSS bugs?
2008-01-25 06:38 < Drunken_Idiot> Hello
2008-01-25 06:39 < ChemicalBit> is this the chan for talk about wn.wikipedia or is it #wikipedia-en ?
2008-01-25 06:39 < Drunken_Idiot> This
2008-01-25 06:39 < Cyrius> ChemicalBit: in theory, #wikipedia-en, but you're more likely to get a useful response in here
2008-01-25 06:40 < Drunken_Idiot> Hi Cyrius dude.
2008-01-25 06:44 < ChemicalBit> thank you Cyrius
2008-01-25 06:45 < ryan_the_lion> god I hate the ads on torrent sites -_-
2008-01-25 06:45 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: so run adblock?
2008-01-25 06:45 < ryan_the_lion> good idea
2008-01-25 06:45 < ryan_the_lion> when I am in computing at school browsing for torrents, they have all these pics of these girls who look 12 - then when the teachers walk past they think i am browsing for porn -_-
2008-01-25 06:46 < Leslie_S> lol...
2008-01-25 06:46 < ryan_the_lion> one of my computing teachers last year didn't know what youtube and myspace was O_O|
2008-01-25 06:46 < Leslie_S> maybe you shouldnt download torrents at school
2008-01-25 06:46 < Leslie_S> seriously, wtf.
2008-01-25 06:46 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: and browsing for torrents is morally better? ;)
2008-01-25 06:46 < ryan_the_lion> Moof: hahahaha, IDK :p
2008-01-25 06:47 < ryan_the_lion> Leslie_S: it is on my laptop - i am eating up the school's bandwidth (and probably causing half the network to crash xD )
2008-01-25 06:47 < Leslie_S> fucking idiot
2008-01-25 06:47 < Leslie_S> people like you piss me the fuck off
2008-01-25 06:48 < ryan_the_lion> Leslie_S: why?
2008-01-25 06:48 < _frederik_> bandwidth isn't very expensive
2008-01-25 06:48 < Leslie_S> because you waste the free wifi bandwidth for stupid shit
2008-01-25 06:48 < Leslie_S> causing other people to not be able to use it at all
2008-01-25 06:48 < Leslie_S> _frederik_: it doesnt take much when its a big wifi networkl.
2008-01-25 06:48 < _frederik_> there should be proper traffic shaping
2008-01-25 06:49 < Leslie_S> anyway, i dont fucking care anymore.
2008-01-25 06:49 < _frederik_> i mean, i try not to download tons of stuff myself
2008-01-25 06:49 < ryan_the_lion> Leslie_S: it isn't stupid and, when I can I use the enthernet cables :) only when I am in the library or class our of the labs when I use wifi
2008-01-25 06:49 < ryan_the_lion> wow, what a bitch
2008-01-25 06:49 < ryan_the_lion> she got angry easily -_-
2008-01-25 06:50 < SPUI> read a book read a book read a motherfucking book
2008-01-25 06:50 < ryan_the_lion> O_o
2008-01-25 06:50 * ryan_the_lion reads the cat in the hat to SPUI
2008-01-25 06:50 < bumm13> thanks O.G. Fucking Readmore ;)
2008-01-25 06:50 < ryan_the_lion> _frederik_: I have 2 reasons to download stuff
2008-01-25 06:50 < _frederik_> most of the bandwidth i use is for work, but it probably dwarfs the bandwidth that most people use anyway
2008-01-25 06:51 < _frederik_> so i don't feel very annoyed at file-sharers
2008-01-25 06:52 < _frederik_> but anyhoo
2008-01-25 06:52 * ryan_the_lion gives _frederik_ a cookie
2008-01-25 06:52 < SPUI> and sticks it in his ass?
2008-01-25 06:53 < _frederik_> it will get there eventually
2008-01-25 06:55 < ChemicalBit> In a strange way (we are talking about something like that on it.wikipedia, I'm few active on en.wikiepdia) Ive found out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Unencyclopedic
2008-01-25 06:55 < ryan_the_lion> is mind rape illegal?
2008-01-25 06:55 < ChemicalBit> Can I "vote" there? (i have not much edit onen.wiki)
2008-01-25 06:55 < ChemicalBit> If I can not "vote" there , can I write there without "voting"?
2008-01-25 06:57 < _frederik_> ryan_the_lion: ?
2008-01-25 06:58 < ryan_the_lion> _frederik_: it is an american dad joke
2008-01-25 06:58 < SPUI> ya dad's american
2008-01-25 06:58 < ryan_the_lion> no
2008-01-25 06:58 < Zenwhat> Hey, anybody here know how to write scripts on Wikipedia?
2008-01-25 06:58 < ryan_the_lion> he is british
2008-01-25 06:58 < ryan_the_lion> Zenwhat: you might want to go to #mediawiki
2008-01-25 06:59 < Zenwhat> k
2008-01-25 07:00 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: while I'm not certain it's a crime in itself, it can probably fall under a number of different more specific crimes. Harrassment, for example.
2008-01-25 07:00 < Moof> at least under uk law.
2008-01-25 07:00 < ryan_the_lion> Moof: could you please tell me what mind rape is? (are you sfan?)
2008-01-25 07:00 < Zenwhat> I posted this in the room a few hours ago.. I forgot to come back and check to see what people said about it.
2008-01-25 07:00 < Zenwhat> So, here it is again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Zombies
2008-01-25 07:00 < Zenwhat> Opinions?
2008-01-25 07:01 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: no, I'm not
2008-01-25 07:01 * ChemicalBit goes away
2008-01-25 07:01 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: well, definitions differ
2008-01-25 07:01 < TeraByte> Hi all. Is Wikipedia definitely up and running at the moment
2008-01-25 07:01 < TeraByte> ?
2008-01-25 07:01 < ryan_the_lion> Moof: what is oen? :p
2008-01-25 07:02 < Zenwhat> Yes, Tera.
2008-01-25 07:02 < TeraByte> Zenwhat: thanks for the confirmation. For some reason I can't access it and I'm reasonably certain that it's not an ISP issue
2008-01-25 07:03 < Zenwhat> You're not in China, right?
2008-01-25 07:03 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: non-consensual playing with somebody's feelings or perceptions of the world.
2008-01-25 07:03 < TeraByte> Australia, actually
2008-01-25 07:03 < Zenwhat> It's probably just a glitch.
2008-01-25 07:03 < Mike2> http://video.nbc11.com/player/?id=209221
2008-01-25 07:03 < Zenwhat> Wikipedia frequently does that. "SORRY, WIKIPEDIA IS BROKEN," then a few seconds later it's fine. Just give it a minute and refresh
2008-01-25 07:03 < ryan_the_lion> Moof: nice definition :D
2008-01-25 07:04 < TeraByte> I don't even get an error message, the site is not responding to pings and tracerts fail to get to the final destination
2008-01-25 07:04 < Moof> ryan_the_lion: as opposed to the more sci-fi description of non-consensually reading somebody's mind.
2008-01-25 07:05 < ryan_the_lion> I am not a scifi person :)
2008-01-25 07:05 < Zenwhat> TeraByte, I've heard that Australia's internet companies are monopolistic -- most likely it's your shitty ISP.
2008-01-25 07:05 < TeraByte> Zenwhat: that's Telstra you speak of... fortunately I'm not with them
2008-01-25 07:06 < Zenwhat> Call them and complain about it, and make sure to not vote for the Liberal Party.
2008-01-25 07:06 < Zenwhat> Ah, OK
2008-01-25 07:06 < Zenwhat> Well, it still might just be a shitty ISP.
2008-01-25 07:06 < TeraByte> I have had nothing but issues with them from day one, but I'm still convinced that this isn't an ISP issue
2008-01-25 07:06 < TeraByte> my tracert logs say that it's a router within the Wikipedia domain that isn't responding
2008-01-25 07:06 < Zenwhat> Sometimes, due to network problems, there might be a "gap" between you and the server you're trying to reach on the internet. That's why there can sometimes be cases where a website is "up" but your ISP doesn't let you access it.
2008-01-25 07:08 < TeraByte> I'm trying to get on the phone to my ISP at the moment, but there's a pretty lengthy queue
2008-01-25 07:10 < ryan_the_lion> hahahaha http://slapcorey.com/
2008-01-25 07:10 < TeraByte> I just don't get it... one of the websites in Australia that I'm also unable to access was supposedly due to a router "blacklisting" my IP... I have no idea how that even works
2008-01-25 07:11 < Messedrocker> i don't know what Corey is
2008-01-25 07:11 < TeraByte> what causes routers to suddenly blacklist an IP (beyond the obvious DoS and other issues)?
2008-01-25 07:11 < Messedrocker> is that some british thing?
2008-01-25 07:11 < zero1328> I had a theory on it a while ago, but I haven't done anything to prove it
2008-01-25 07:11 < TeraByte> Messedrocker, it's an Australian thing
2008-01-25 07:12 < TeraByte> look up Corey Delaney on Google News
2008-01-25 07:12 < Messedrocker> oh, corey delaney
2008-01-25 07:12 < Cyrius> Messedrocker: I think it's that retarded australian teenager who threw a massive party causing collateral property damage
2008-01-25 07:12 < zero1328> Some bad routers have a transparent proxy.. so the server may detect that you're coming from two ips
2008-01-25 07:12 < Messedrocker> aka corey his-real-name
2008-01-25 07:12 < Messedrocker> also my record is 404 meters
2008-01-25 07:12 < zero1328> So the seerver side security gets confused
2008-01-25 07:12 < TeraByte> zero1328: The thing is, I'm only coming from one IP, not two
2008-01-25 07:12 < zero1328> But like I said, it's only a theory of mine.. I haven't proven it <.<
2008-01-25 07:13 < zero1328> Routers usually have a proxy on them, but whether it's transparent or not is the key in my hunch
2008-01-25 07:13 < zero1328> But hey, I'm no expert
2008-01-25 07:13 < TeraByte> yeah
2008-01-25 07:14 < zero1328> Find a computer technician, they may give some advice
2008-01-25 07:14 < TeraByte> I'm currently on the phone waiting for my ISP, hopefully they can tell me more
2008-01-25 07:15 < zero1328> I never really trust them much, half the time you go in circles
2008-01-25 07:15 < TeraByte> yeah, that's true, but they're my best option at the moment
2008-01-25 07:15 < zero1328> Have you tried another router?
2008-01-25 07:15 < TeraByte> oh, you're talking about a home router
2008-01-25 07:15 < TeraByte> I was talking about a major internet gateway router
2008-01-25 07:16 < zero1328> Ok, I know absolutely nothing about them.. I can't even make educated guesses
2008-01-25 07:16 < TeraByte> lol, that's okay