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2008-01-23 22:13 < merky> oh she's your favourite then?
2008-01-23 22:13 < Mike_H> I never met her, she died in 1981
2008-01-23 22:13 < merky> :)
2008-01-23 22:13 < Mike_H> four years before I was born
2008-01-23 22:13 < merky> :(
2008-01-23 22:13 < Mike_H> If she were to be alive today, she would be 109.
2008-01-23 22:13 < Mike_H> She was old when she died.
2008-01-23 22:14 < Mike_H> My grandmother is 89, and my mother is 57, and I'm 22.
2008-01-23 22:14 < merky> one of my grandmas died before i was born too, and my grandad on that side i didn't know. but as a child i didn't know any different:)
2008-01-23 22:14 < Mike_H> merky: My grandmother's first husband died in the war
2008-01-23 22:15 < Mike_H> and then she met my grandfather
2008-01-23 22:15 < Mike_H> married him, and moved to the US
2008-01-23 22:15 < Mike_H> She had two kids by her first husband, and then three more by my grandfather
2008-01-23 22:15 < merky> blimey
2008-01-23 22:15 < Mike_H> my mother being the fifth and last one ;)
2008-01-23 22:15 < Mike_H> and coincidentally, my mother also had five kids
2008-01-23 22:15 < merky> a friend of mine has 10 lol, that's extreme
2008-01-23 22:15 < Mike_H> and I was the last one :D
2008-01-23 22:15 < merky> :)
2008-01-23 22:16 < merky> u at uni mike?
2008-01-23 22:16 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-01-23 22:16 < merky> what u studying
2008-01-23 22:16 < Mike_H> journalism
2008-01-23 22:17 < Mike_H> merky: My grandmother was named after Elizabeth I, in a roundabout way ;)
2008-01-23 22:17 < merky> ooooooooh, that'd b great, i hope u find work in it, i think it must b competitive
2008-01-23 22:17 < Mike_H> her given names were "Virginia Queen"
2008-01-23 22:17 < merky> ooooh that's cute
2008-01-23 22:18 < Mike_H> it's very British ;)
2008-01-23 22:18 < merky> i'm off to sleep in a mo boys
2008-01-23 22:18 < Mike_H> but yeah, journalism is very competitive
2008-01-23 22:18 < Mike_H> but there are also new outlets and avenues
2008-01-23 22:18 < kenlyric> for a virgin, elizabeth got a lot of tail.
2008-01-23 22:18 < Mike_H> especially online
2008-01-23 22:19 < Illarane|Laptop> Mike_H: I know of no-one British called Virginia Queen. ;)
2008-01-23 22:19 < merky> r u often on mike h? the discussion of comic prices was of very select interest lol
2008-01-23 22:19 < Mike_H> Illarane|Laptop: She was born in 1918. I didn't say it was a contemporary British name ;)
2008-01-23 22:19 < merky> nor me
2008-01-23 22:19 < Mike_H> merky: heh, yeah
2008-01-23 22:19 < merky> but thhat was in those days
2008-01-23 22:19 < merky> my grandad was called 'cecil rhodes' + surname lol
2008-01-23 22:19 < IceKarma> my father's father's mother's name was Sidsel
2008-01-23 22:20 < Mike_H> now some girl today would be named like
2008-01-23 22:20 < Mike_H> Kirsty-Louise
2008-01-23 22:20 < Mike_H> which is so ugly
2008-01-23 22:20 < zocky> since when do we semiprotect the featured article?
2008-01-23 22:20 < Illarane|Laptop> I know a Mavis, a Doris, a Dorothy, a Gertrude and an Ermintrude, but no Virginias.
2008-01-23 22:20 < merky> no old fashioned names r in now
2008-01-23 22:20 < merky> Lily etc
2008-01-23 22:20 < Illarane|Laptop> ACtually, tell a lie; I do know one. She runs a ballet school in Croydon.
2008-01-23 22:20 < Mike_H> Illarane|Laptop: Her mother was named Bessie.
2008-01-23 22:20 < Illarane|Laptop> I have a friend called Lily.
2008-01-23 22:20 < Mike_H> That's a very British old lady name.
2008-01-23 22:20 < Rinn> Ermintrude?
2008-01-23 22:20 < Illarane|Laptop> It's also a nickname for Elizabeths. :)
2008-01-23 22:20 < merky> they're all fashionable again
2008-01-23 22:20 < zocky> Ceiling_Cat, how come TFA is semiprotected?
2008-01-23 22:21 < Mike_H> Illarane|Laptop: Yes, but her legal name was "Bessie"
2008-01-23 22:21 < Mike_H> just like my mother, actually :o
2008-01-23 22:21 < merky> but Maud hasn't become trendy again lol
2008-01-23 22:21 < Illarane|Laptop> Mike_H: ;)
2008-01-23 22:21 < Mike_H> my mother, unsurprisingly, goes by her middle name :)
2008-01-23 22:21 < Illarane|Laptop> That's because Maud is an awful name. ;)
2008-01-23 22:21 < merky> rofl true
2008-01-23 22:21 < merky> night for now :)
2008-01-23 22:21 < IceKarma> my mother and I both changed our legal names because we didn't like them
2008-01-23 22:21 < Rinn> Lilly is old-fashioned?
2008-01-23 22:21 < Mike_H> My grandmother thought Bessie was a beautiful name
2008-01-23 22:21 < Mike_H> in the US it is the name you give a cow.
2008-01-23 22:22 < Illarane|Laptop> lol
2008-01-23 22:22 < Mike_H> Illarane|Laptop: My mom refused to go by her first name, so much so that when she went to kindergarten
2008-01-23 22:22 < Mike_H> and "Bessie" was written on the desk
2008-01-23 22:22 < Mike_H> she petulantly told the teacher
2008-01-23 22:22 * Illarane|Laptop has a terrible urge to sing "Florence, it's a lovely morning..."
2008-01-23 22:22 < Mike_H> "THAT'S NOT MY NAME"
2008-01-23 22:22 < Illarane|Laptop> lol
2008-01-23 22:22 < Rinn> I like Constance.
2008-01-23 22:23 < Mike_H> So the teacher wrote a new nametag, "Janet," and that's what my mother has been known by forever. Janet was much more of a contemporary name back then anyway.
2008-01-23 22:23 < Mike_H> A lot more than Bessie.
2008-01-23 22:23 < IceKarma> Mike_H, I did that to my paternal grandparents, who insisted on using a certain diminutive form of my name I hated
2008-01-23 22:23 < Mike_H> IceKarma: ew
2008-01-23 22:24 < Mike_H> My uncle called me Turkey.
2008-01-23 22:24 < Mike_H> If that makes you feel any better.
2008-01-23 22:24 < IceKarma> Mike_H, my mother finally told me the cure: I simply stopped responding when they called me that
2008-01-23 22:24 < Rinn> My uncle calls me Zippy.
2008-01-23 22:25 < Mike_H> IceKarma: I was named after my father when it was clear that my mother could only give him one child.
2008-01-23 22:25 < Mike_H> I was supposed to be named Brandon.
2008-01-23 22:25 < IceKarma> Mike_H, of course, my subsequent legal name change has only confused matters more
2008-01-23 22:25 < Illarane|Laptop> The woman who voices EVA in the original Command and Conquer has an incredibly irritating accent.
2008-01-23 22:25 < Rinn> What's your name, Mike?
2008-01-23 22:25 < Rinn> .
2008-01-23 22:25 < Rinn> Nevermind.
2008-01-23 22:25 < Mike_H> James Michael Halterman, Jr.
2008-01-23 22:25 < Mike_H> it's published on the interwebs
2008-01-23 22:25 < Mike_H> I don't care
2008-01-23 22:26 < Rinn> The "nevermind" was because I noticed the stupidity of the question "What's your name, Mike?"
2008-01-23 22:26 * IceKarma prefers pseudonymity.
2008-01-23 22:26 < Mike_H> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/society/ngo/geobee/1999.html
2008-01-23 22:26 < Mike_H> specifically here
2008-01-23 22:26 < Mike_H> Department of Defense Dependents Schools
2008-01-23 22:26 < Mike_H> James Michael Halterman, Jr.
2008-01-23 22:26 < Mike_H> Japan
2008-01-23 22:27 < IceKarma> indeed, more people call me "Ice" than my actual name in real life
2008-01-23 22:29 < Mike_H> National Geographic has my name on their website forevarrrrr
2008-01-23 22:29 < Mike_H> to prove that I was smart once
2008-01-23 22:29 < Mike_H> yay me
2008-01-23 22:30 < Mike_H> but some crazy Christian nutjob who was homeschooled won the Geography Bee that year
2008-01-23 22:30 < Mike_H> and he goes to some unaccredited Christian college in Tennessee now, servin' th'Lord
2008-01-23 22:30 < Mike_H> good job, idiot
2008-01-23 22:30 < Rinn> I hated geography.
2008-01-23 22:40 < Leslie_S> unaccredited college? those exist?
2008-01-23 22:40 < bluefoxicy> Awesome
2008-01-23 22:40 < bluefoxicy> my guitar sounds like Eric Johnson's guitar
2008-01-23 22:41 < bluefoxicy> and once I get the new tone pot and do the cap mod, I can mode switch it to sound like Slash's guitar for sure
2008-01-23 22:41 < Mike_H> Leslie_S: Yes.
2008-01-23 22:41 < bluefoxicy> Nice and clean in series coil mode (I'll have a parallel mode for a more fat and warm sound though), but slash's is darker
2008-01-23 22:42 < Mike_H> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensacola_Christian_College
2008-01-23 22:42 < Mike_H> probably the most notable (and largest) unaccredited colleges in the US
2008-01-23 22:42 < Mike_H> *college
2008-01-23 22:43 < Mike_H> [Abel Harding] applied to the University of Florida and was told that none of his credits would transfer. "I had to start over," he says. So, after three years at Pensacola, he enrolled as a freshman at nearby Santa Fe Community College.
2008-01-23 22:43 < Mike_H> [Amy Brown] graduated from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools.
2008-01-23 22:43 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-01-23 22:43 < Leslie_S> wtf is the point?
2008-01-23 22:44 < Mike_H> Although PCC lacks institutional accreditation, its nursing program is certified by the Florida State Board of Nursing.[9]
2008-01-23 22:44 < Mike_H> So that's basically the only program there that will get you a future.
2008-01-23 22:44 < Mike_H> Love it.
2008-01-23 22:44 < Traveler4> hmmmm
2008-01-23 22:45 < Leslie_S> The following semester PCC banned all devices which would allow an individual to connect a personal computer to the Internet.
2008-01-23 22:45 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-01-23 22:45 < Leslie_S> and i take my half-working wifi at my college for granted
2008-01-23 22:45 < Mike_H> Regulations govern many aspects of the residence hall students lives, including dress, hairstyles, cleanliness of residence hall rooms, styles of music (PCC only permits its students to listen to classical music, traditional Christian music or Sacred music), borrowing, off-campus employment, and internet access.
2008-01-23 22:46 < Mike_H> PCC also has strict policies regarding mixed-gender interaction. Physical contact between members of the opposite sex (including shaking hands) is not permitted under any circumstance. Written permission of the dean�fs office must be procured for all off-campus meetings between members of the opposite sex. In addition, all mixed-gender meetings (on and off-campus), must have a PCC chaperon present.[6]
2008-01-23 22:46 < Mike_H> oh, and this one's my favorite
2008-01-23 22:46 < Mike_H> All stairwells and elevators on campus are segregated by gender. In the absence of being able to have physical contact, a fad has developed among dating students on campus where couples stare deeply into each other�fs eyes. This practice by students is variously called "eye kissing", or "optical intercourse" and is jokingly called "making eye babies."[6]
2008-01-23 22:47 < kenlyric> I scrolled over.
2008-01-23 22:47 < kenlyric> and saw one line
2008-01-23 22:47 < kenlyric> and thought
2008-01-23 22:47 < kenlyric> Bob Jones University
2008-01-23 22:47 < kenlyric> am I right?
2008-01-23 22:47 < Mike_H> no
2008-01-23 22:47 < kenlyric> damn
2008-01-23 22:47 < Mike_H> Bob Jones is actually accredited, and their rules are not that strict.
2008-01-23 22:47 < Mike_H> Pensacola Christian College.
2008-01-23 22:48 < Mike_H> For students who do acquire demerits, PCC has four levels of punishment; students can be "campused", "socialed", "shadowed", or expelled. An accumulation of 75 demerits results in being campused for two weeks. Campused students are not permitted to leave the campus grounds or speak with any other student subject to discipline. The punishment of being campused reoccurs with every new accumulation of 25 demerits.
2008-01-23 22:48 < Mike_H> "socialed" is the equivalent of shunning in the Amish community, where you are not allowed to speak to anyone for a period of time (usually between a day and two weeks)
2008-01-23 22:49 < kenlyric> Al Franken's Chapter in Lying Liars where he visits Bob Jones is very funny. That audiobook version is a riot.
2008-01-23 22:49 < Mike_H> and "shadowed" is where you have to have a trusted member of the student body follow you at all times
2008-01-23 22:49 < Mike_H> which means you having to go to the shadow's classes
2008-01-23 22:49 < Mike_H> and move into his room.
2008-01-23 22:50 < kenlyric> sounds naughty
2008-01-23 22:50 < Leslie_S> Mike_H What the hell?
2008-01-23 22:51 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-01-23 22:51 < Leslie_S> and people deal with this crap?
2008-01-23 22:51 < Mike_H> bumm13: Recognize the name Cathy McMorris Rodgers?
2008-01-23 22:51 < Mike_H> Leslie_S: Usually the people are already conditioned into a life of Christ to begin with, so it's not, like, a 180 for them.
2008-01-23 22:52 < Leslie_S> heh...
2008-01-23 22:52 < Leslie_S> religion is crazy. ;/
2008-01-23 22:52 < kenlyric> THE DEVIL IS CRAZIER
2008-01-23 22:53 < Mike_H> Leslie_S: Kids can use the internet now at PCC
2008-01-23 22:53 < LuciferTiger> NO IM NOT
2008-01-23 22:53 < Leslie_S> my drama teacher called in today :(
2008-01-23 22:53 < Mike_H> from 1997 to 2004
2008-01-23 22:53 < Mike_H> they weren't allowed at all.
2008-01-23 22:53 < Mike_H> Internet access on the campus of PCC was severely limited until the summer of 2004 when a new, heavily filtered, wireless Internet service run by the college became available to all students on campus.
2008-01-23 22:53 < Leslie_S> Mike_H heavily filtered, lol
2008-01-23 22:53 < Mike_H> Students are eligible for expulsion if their MySpace profiles contain material the college considers inappropriate, such as unapproved music or pictures. The PCC administrative staff monitor the MySpace and Student Voice websites regularly to review what current and former students are saying about the college.
2008-01-23 22:53 < Mike_H> they're kind of progressive, at least the kids are allowed to have myspaces.
2008-01-23 22:54 < Leslie_S> lol myspace
2008-01-23 22:54 < Leslie_S> that reminds me, i havent logged into mine in ages.
2008-01-23 22:54 < Mike_H> According to Pensacola Christian College's 2007 Student Handbook, fewer than one in three professors holds the terminal degree in his or her field. Additionally, the majority of PhD-equivalent professors possess D.Div. or Ed.D degrees granted by PCC.[17]
2008-01-23 22:54 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-01-23 22:54 < LuciferTiger> sweet. PCC = Pensacola Communist Cadres??
2008-01-23 22:54 < Mike_H> LuciferTiger: totally
2008-01-23 22:54 < LuciferTiger> LOL i had guessed pensacola outta the blue
2008-01-23 22:55 < LuciferTiger> thats some cool mindreading :D
2008-01-23 22:55 < kenlyric> why, a heathen biology degree would teach immoral evolutionary values
2008-01-23 22:55 < Leslie_S> D.Div or Ed.D?
2008-01-23 22:55 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-23 22:56 < Mike_H> PCC offers neither coursework nor information of any kind contradicting young Earth creationism or flood geology.
2008-01-23 22:56 < Mike_H> This position requires the omission of subjects such as big bang cosmology, evolution (but specifically primate evolution), archeology (i.e. the concurrent existence of Chinese and Egyptian dynasties during the time of Noah's ark, to offer but one example), or the pre-Columbian Americas (i.e. the Cherokee or Clovis civilizations). Additionally, PCC has taken a firm stand against Freudian psychological principles.
2008-01-23 22:57 < Leslie_S> wait, wtf is wrong with chinese and egyptian dynasties?
2008-01-23 22:57 < LuciferTiger> they prove that the whole world didnt drown
2008-01-23 22:57 < Leslie_S> heh, they do?
2008-01-23 22:57 < Mike_H> Other violations of PCC policy include the use of language considered profane or foul by the college administration, visiting movie theaters, patronizing unauthorized area businesses, being off campus after hours and being in another residence hall room after hours.
2008-01-23 22:57 * Leslie_S didnt notice that
2008-01-23 22:57 < Mike_H> Additionally, being in a residence hall belonging to a member of the opposite sex, the use of alcohol, or tobacco products, gambling, possession or use of pornography, engaging in any form of pre-marital sexual activity or any other actions considered by the college to be immoral, and engaging in social activities with members of the opposite sex as a group while off campus can result in immediate dismissal.
2008-01-23 22:58 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-01-23 22:58 < Leslie_S> so the only thing you can possibly do with the opposite sex is have sex?
2008-01-23 22:58 < LuciferTiger> by being around before - during - and after the supposed 'flood' they prove that everything wasnt deluged
2008-01-23 22:58 < Messedrocker> that's not true
2008-01-23 22:58 < Messedrocker> for example i am currently engaged in a conversation
2008-01-23 22:59 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: That would get you so expelled from PCC
2008-01-23 22:59 < Mike_H> or socialed.
2008-01-23 22:59 < Mike_H> or shadowed.
2008-01-23 22:59 < Messedrocker> because i've been speaking for over an hour to a friend i like?
2008-01-23 22:59 < Leslie_S> LuciferTiger to be honest, careful study of that part of the bible, and the hebrew language, also reveals that the whole world wasnt deluged.
2008-01-23 22:59 < Messedrocker> er, forget the "i like"
2008-01-23 22:59 < Leslie_S> LuciferTiger the word translated as "world" meant ...the general area.
2008-01-23 22:59 < Messedrocker> that should be implicit in "friend"
2008-01-23 22:59 < Leslie_S> the region, if anything, was flooded.
2008-01-23 22:59 < Lubaf> World of Peacecraft. Peacehammer Online.
2008-01-23 23:00 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: Yeah, basically
2008-01-23 23:00 < Messedrocker> omg he's talking to a member of the opposite sex! kiiilll hiiiim
2008-01-23 23:00 < LuciferTiger> i dunno bout that. infact i didnt even know that its projected date is around those times. i was just inferring that from what Mike_H said.
2008-01-23 23:05 < LuciferTiger> hello?
2008-01-23 23:06 < Dtobias> A college for people who wish they were born in Iran, except they'd rather be Christian than Muslim.
2008-01-23 23:06 < Bob222> hello
2008-01-23 23:06 < Dtobias> hello
2008-01-23 23:07 < Dtobias> goodbye
2008-01-23 23:09 < LuciferTiger> lol everyone went all quiet
2008-01-23 23:09 < LuciferTiger> A Daily Show?
2008-01-23 23:09 < Mike_H> Leslie_S: You'll like this
2008-01-23 23:09 < Mike_H> true story #3:
2008-01-23 23:09 < Mike_H> a music teacher during the first class of the semester was giving the
2008-01-23 23:09 < Mike_H> students and overview of the electronic pianos at which they were
2008-01-23 23:09 < Mike_H> sitting.
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> these pianos stored a bank of electronic sounds ranging from a
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> full orchestra, to trumpets, to drums. about the drums, the teacher was
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> quick to remark, "Because these pianos were designed by people who don't
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> know the Lord, there are drum sounds loaded into the sound bank. Do not
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> use these sounds."
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> a story from PCC
2008-01-23 23:10 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-01-23 23:10 < Leslie_S> whats wrong with drum sounds?
2008-01-23 23:10 < LuciferTiger> sweeet
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> (off hand, i can't think of any scripture that teaches that one "will
2008-01-23 23:10 < Mike_H> know we are His disciples by the sounds you load into your instrument.")
2008-01-23 23:11 < Dtobias> God Hates Drums!
2008-01-23 23:11 < Leslie_S> Mike_H i suppose theyd have a bitchfit about my electric guitar
2008-01-23 23:11 < Leslie_S> :D
2008-01-23 23:11 < Dtobias> Just say no to drums.
2008-01-23 23:11 < Mike_H> Oh, this is a good story too
2008-01-23 23:11 < Mike_H> Toward the end of my senior year at PCC, I recall a few days when my
2008-01-23 23:11 < Mike_H> father and brother came to visit. They had never been to PCC before, and so
2008-01-23 23:11 < Mike_H> I was eager for them to be impressed, but anxious at not knowing what bizarre
2008-01-23 23:11 < Mike_H> thing might happen.
2008-01-23 23:12 < Leslie_S> 1 Corinthians 5:2 God hates drums.
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> During one of the days they both came to the chapel service. I sat on
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> the very last row that students sat in up in the balcony. There were two or
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> three empty rows behind me, and so I told them they could just sit up there.
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> The row monitor sat right next to me, and when we arrived in the auditorium,
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> I told her that I would sit in the row immediately behind where we sat
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> because of my father and brother being there. I obviously wanted to sit with
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> them. She said it was fine (I was relieved to have her permission, this girl
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> who was younger than me. . .).
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> So, I sat with my father and brother right behind my normal seat. Well,
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> one of the residence managers came up to me afterwards and asked to speak to
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> me alone. I said sure. He gave me demerits for not sitting in my assigned
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> seat!
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> Keep in mind that I was 23 years old, sitting ONE seat behind my
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> assigned one, with the row monitor's permission and with my father and
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> brother. I guess there is no such thing as "spirit of the law"???
2008-01-23 23:12 < Mike_H> fin.
2008-01-23 23:13 < Leslie_S> rofl
2008-01-23 23:14 < Dtobias> God should send a hurricane to smite that college.
2008-01-23 23:15 < Leslie_S> Dtobias clearly theyd just claim that it was sent to smite the sinners near the college
2008-01-23 23:15 < Leslie_S> Dtobias or that guy whos campused
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> Oh, here's another story
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> Dear StudentV:
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> As to the DC procedures (I know this is kind of an "old" topic, but this
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> also just happened), a male student was pointing at a girl's watch in
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> one of the many chaperoned areas. Someone who couldn't see exactly what
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> happened, but was instantly suspicious, claimed that he was touching her
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> and wrote them up.
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> Now to all those who still insist that one can plead
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> his case and be heard by the Discipline Committee, read the following:
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> When sent to DC, he was asked what he did and when he continued to insist
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> that he didn't touch her in any way, he was not only socialed anyway, but
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> also received 50 extra demerits FOR LYING! Whoa, so much for the DC
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> listening and believing students.
2008-01-23 23:16 < Mike_H> fin.
2008-01-23 23:16 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-01-23 23:16 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-23 23:17 < kenlyric> wait.
2008-01-23 23:17 < kenlyric> so you're telling me these crazy nutjobs aren't fair and rational?
2008-01-23 23:17 < Aranda56_> how u ghost again
2008-01-23 23:17 * kenlyric is personally shocked.
2008-01-23 23:17 < Leslie_S> people are seriously brainwashed to this extent and dont question it at all?
2008-01-23 23:18 < Aranda56_> ghost?
2008-01-23 23:18 * kim_bruning drops into the middle of a discussion, apparently
2008-01-23 23:18 < Rinn> IT'S A GHOST!
2008-01-23 23:18 < kim_bruning> hello!
2008-01-23 23:18 < kim_bruning> Rinn, who you gonna call!?
2008-01-23 23:18 < privatemusings> ray parker
2008-01-23 23:18 < Dtobias> It's worse than Wikipedia's ArbCom.
2008-01-23 23:18 < Mike_H> this one is too long to copy
2008-01-23 23:18 < Mike_H> http://www.pensacolachristiancollege.com/archive/sv23.txt
2008-01-23 23:18 < Mike_H> go to "Have you heard the one about..."
2008-01-23 23:19 < kim_bruning> privatemusings, him too
2008-01-23 23:19 < Dtobias> >>> WARNING: The PCC administration does NOT want you to read this
2008-01-23 23:19 < Dtobias> newsletter. It contains material of an adult nature, and since they believe
2008-01-23 23:19 < Dtobias> you are not capable of handling adult material, they wish for this newsletter
2008-01-23 23:19 < Dtobias> to be censored. Therefore, if you are not an adult, please do not read the
2008-01-23 23:19 < Dtobias> rest of this newsletter. Thank you.
2008-01-23 23:20 < Leslie_S> haha
2008-01-23 23:20 < kim_bruning> Dtobias, !?
2008-01-23 23:20 < Leslie_S> "
2008-01-23 23:20 < Leslie_S> I understand that Pensacola Christian College does not provide an on-campus infirmary and that I will rest and recover from any illness or injury in my residence hall room without supervised medical attention.
2008-01-23 23:20 < Dtobias> So PCC has their own attack sites, and BADSITES policy.
2008-01-23 23:20 < Mike_H> Dtobias: So if the WR people think WP is way crazy, tell them to check out PCC ;)
2008-01-23 23:21 < Leslie_S> Students may have a standard cell telephone (without E-mail or Internet service), provided it remains in their automobile and is not used on PCC property.
2008-01-23 23:21 < Leslie_S> uh, people leave their phones in their car?
2008-01-23 23:21 < Leslie_S> that doesnt work in my climate, heh..ive tried it. :o
2008-01-23 23:21 < Dtobias> My mom used to have a really old cell phone that was big and clunky and designed to keep in her car, but she finally traded it in for a newer model last year.
2008-01-23 23:22 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-01-23 23:22 < Leslie_S> Dtobias the point was that in my climate, doing that in the winter discharges the battery extremely quickly
2008-01-23 23:22 < Leslie_S> Students may have a standard cell telephone (without E-mail or Internet service), provided it remains in their automobile and is not used on PCC property.
2008-01-23 23:22 < Leslie_S> haha
2008-01-23 23:22 < Leslie_S> err
2008-01-23 23:22 < OverlordQ> mmm bag phones ftw
2008-01-23 23:22 < Leslie_S> I further agree that should I take any legal action against Pensacola Christian College, Inc., or its employees or agents, I will reimburse them for any attorney fees, court fees, damages or other costs they incur to defend themselves against such action if it is determined they are not found at fault.
2008-01-23 23:23 < OverlordQ> i really dont think that one would swing if somebody were to challenge it
2008-01-23 23:23 < OverlordQ> I'd give 'em the finger nad tell 'em to ask the court for the money
2008-01-23 23:23 < OverlordQ> *and
2008-01-23 23:23 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-23 23:25 < Evil_Monkey> Leslie_S: planning to go to PCC?
2008-01-23 23:25 < Evil_Monkey> "All stairwells and elevators on campus are segregated by gender."
2008-01-23 23:28 < kenlyric> actually, that's a fairly standard contract clause
2008-01-23 23:28 < kenlyric> you favorite videogame or software license says the same thing.
2008-01-23 23:29 < OverlordQ> Having it there, and being enforcable are two different ballgames
2008-01-23 23:31 < Evil_Monkey> "In the absence of being able to have physical contact, a fad has developed among dating students on campus where couples stare deeply into each other’s eyes. This practice by students is variously called "eye kissing", or "optical intercourse" and is jokingly called "making eye babies."[6] This activity however is discouraged by the administration."
2008-01-23 23:31 < Evil_Monkey> now that is just sad
2008-01-23 23:32 < OverlordQ> Lol
2008-01-23 23:33 < OverlordQ> Who would want to go there?
2008-01-23 23:33 < Bob221> um am i here?
2008-01-23 23:33 < Evil_Monkey> OverlordQ: at least 4712 people do :-)
2008-01-23 23:34 < OverlordQ> Whaaaaaaat: "An accumulation of 75 demerits results in being campused for two weeks. Campused students are not permitted to leave the campus grounds or speak with any other student subject to discipline"
2008-01-23 23:35 < OverlordQ> Jebbus Christ, it's like a prison
2008-01-23 23:35 < OverlordQ> Screw the pennitentiary, send convicts to PCC
2008-01-23 23:35 < Bob221> hmmm
2008-01-23 23:35 < Bob221> i wish these channels were not clogged with such trash
2008-01-23 23:35 < Evil_Monkey> hmmm their page on biology doesn't make it clear whether they teach creationism or evolution
2008-01-23 23:36 < Evil_Monkey> in fact the word evolution doesn't appear
2008-01-23 23:36 < Evil_Monkey> http://www.pcci.edu/Academics/Majors/BasicSciencesandEngineering/Biology.html
2008-01-23 23:36 < Leslie_S> Evil_Monkey thats because creationism is just such an obvious truth that they dont need to mention it
2008-01-23 23:36 < Evil_Monkey> "BY 430 Professional Issues in Biology (3) Prereq.: Senior. This course addresses, from a Biblical philosophy, vital issues in biology, including creation science and evolution, bioethics and decision making in medicine, recombinant DNA, and cloning."
2008-01-23 23:38 < Evil_Monkey> we need a [[Category:Universities with crazy fundamentalist rules]]
2008-01-23 23:39 < OverlordQ> those guys are nutjobs
2008-01-23 23:39 < Evil_Monkey> OverlordQ: of course the original nutjobs were [[Bob Jones University]]
2008-01-23 23:40 < OverlordQ> Oh well upon reading the first sentence I could tell you that, says it's liberal arts.
2008-01-23 23:41 < Evil_Monkey> "BJU does not provide a spring break but each March holds a week-long Bible Conference that all students are required to attend."
2008-01-23 23:47 < Evil_Monkey> Does John Gibson of Fox have no soul?
2008-01-23 23:48 < Evil_Monkey> http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/
2008-01-23 23:48 < Evil_Monkey> "Opening his radio show with funeral music yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson callously mocked the death of actor Heath Ledger, calling him a “weirdo� with a “serious drug problem.� "
2008-01-23 23:49 < Evil_Monkey> And a couple of months ago he mocked Jon Stewart's post-9/11 monologue where he was brought to tears.
2008-01-23 23:50 < kenlyric> I think "of Fox" answered your own question
2008-01-23 23:51 < Rjd0060> kenlyric: ;(
2008-01-23 23:53 < LuciferTiger> kenlyric: very true
2008-01-23 23:54 < Rjd0060> LuciferTiger: ;(
2008-01-23 23:54 < Evil_Monkey> for some reason on New Zealand pay TV we get Sky News Australia, CNN International, BBC World and .... Fox News
2008-01-23 23:54 < Rjd0060> I didn't know Wikipedia had an anti-fox movement
2008-01-23 23:55 < Evil_Monkey> Brit Hume looks like Lurch
2008-01-23 23:55 < LuciferTiger> wikipedia doesnt have an antifox movement. Fox has an anti commonsense movement.
2008-01-23 23:55 < Evil_Monkey> Rjd0060: Wikipedia has an anti-American movement :-)
2008-01-23 23:55 < kenlyric> anyone with more than 1 brain cell has an antifox sentiment
2008-01-23 23:56 < Random832> Evil_Monkey: Fox is unamerican
2008-01-23 23:56 < Evil_Monkey> Wikipedia is well known for its liberal/neoconservative/prolife/prochoice/antifox/communist bias
2008-01-23 23:56 < Rjd0060> The facts speak otherwise..
2008-01-23 23:56 < Rjd0060> Ratings
2008-01-23 23:56 < Random832> Rjd0060: their overall ratings are distorted by the simpsons and family guy
2008-01-23 23:56 < Rjd0060> I am talking Fox News Channel only
2008-01-23 23:56 < kenlyric> I'd rate about 3/4 of the american population with one brain cell or less.
2008-01-23 23:56 < Evil_Monkey> Random832: remember that Fox News Channel != Fox
2008-01-23 23:56 < Random832> what ratings does fox news channel get?
2008-01-23 23:57 < Rjd0060> More than NBC and CNN
2008-01-23 23:57 < LuciferTiger> no wonder bush was re-elected
2008-01-23 23:57 < Evil_Monkey> "For the month of August 2007, Fox News averaged 1.43 million viewers during primetime and 356,000 in news target demographic of 25 to 54-year-olds. In comparison, CNN averaged 967,000 viewers (301,000 in the demographic) and MSNBC garnered 512,000 viewers (210,000 in the demographic)."
2008-01-23 23:57 < Evil_Monkey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel#Ratings
2008-01-23 23:57 < LuciferTiger> the whole friggin nation watches fox. can you blame them if they are so goddamn ignorant
2008-01-23 23:57 < Rjd0060> LOL, your majority is ignorant?
2008-01-23 23:58 < OverlordQ> I love it how when liberals run out of (in)valid excuses they resort to just calling everybody else stupid
2008-01-23 23:58 < LuciferTiger> Rjd0060: unfortunately, is.
2008-01-23 23:58 < Rjd0060> So, in essense everybody is ignorant, except the select few that believe the same thing as you?
2008-01-23 23:58 < LuciferTiger> just like liberals as unchristian ;)
2008-01-23 23:59 < LuciferTiger> Rjd0060: thats pretty close
2008-01-23 23:59 < Rjd0060> ...Interesting.
2008-01-23 23:59 < OverlordQ> Rjd0060: Welcome to Democrat Logic 101
2008-01-23 23:59 < Rjd0060> Yes, I can tell where this is going.
2008-01-23 23:59 < kenlyric> I know lots of conservatives who aren't idiots and who think Sean Hannity takes three tries to tie his velcro shoes
2008-01-23 23:59 < LuciferTiger> infact even those who completely agree with me are idiots. cuz they just believe what i say without thinking for themselves.
2008-01-23 23:59 < kenlyric> stupidity knows no political affiliation.
2008-01-23 23:59 < JerseyDevil86> indeed
2008-01-24 00:00 < LuciferTiger> agreed
2008-01-24 00:00 < Rjd0060> TV is weird, they show what people want to see. Its all about ratings, and FNC has them, for whatever reason. They must be doing something right.
2008-01-24 00:00 < kenlyric> Fox News isn't interested in the conservative agenda. They're interested in ratings. They've found the best way to get them.
2008-01-24 00:00 < Rjd0060> All TV is interested in ratings.
2008-01-24 00:00 < Rjd0060> Thats how they stay alive.
2008-01-24 00:01 < JerseyDevil86> Natalee Holloway > Iraq War
2008-01-24 00:01 < LuciferTiger> sensational-ism is a powerful tool
2008-01-24 00:01 < Rjd0060> Ignorant people or not, ratings are ratings.
2008-01-24 00:01 < Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:Fuck you, you're replaceable]]: Official policy, or not?
2008-01-24 00:01 < LuciferTiger> anyways, my earlier point was obviously tongue in cheek. someone missed the point.
2008-01-24 00:02 < kenlyric> Hitler had good ratings.
2008-01-24 00:02 * kenlyric invokes Godwin's Law and ends the conversation
2008-01-24 00:02 < LuciferTiger> also its not a question of being stupid. its a question of how can someone vote for bush in round 2
2008-01-24 00:02 < SPUI> hitler loved to use godwin's law to end conversations
2008-01-24 00:02 < Leslie_S> LuciferTiger i did that.
2008-01-24 00:02 < Rjd0060> kenlyric: comparing FOX to hitler?
2008-01-24 00:03 < Random832> by the way
2008-01-24 00:03 < Random832> what's everyone think of the new skin?
2008-01-24 00:03 < Evil_Monkey> kenlyric: Actually I don't think you can use Hitler to stop a conversation like that. It can't be intentional
2008-01-24 00:03 < Leslie_S> LuciferTiger its not like i had a whole hell of a lot of other options
2008-01-24 00:03 < LuciferTiger> but then, there was kerry
2008-01-24 00:03 < Leslie_S> LuciferTiger id rather have bush than kerry
2008-01-24 00:03 < LuciferTiger> lol yeah
2008-01-24 00:03 < kenlyric> Evil_Monkey: shhhh. you'll ruin it all.
2008-01-24 00:03 < Leslie_S> heh, i remember a campaign billboard near me...it said "Boots or flip flops?"
2008-01-24 00:03 < LuciferTiger> also, my point wasnt that majority of americans are ignorant
2008-01-24 00:03 < kenlyric> I like flip flops
2008-01-24 00:03 < kenlyric> they're whimsy
2008-01-24 00:04 < LuciferTiger> not everyone voted.
2008-01-24 00:04 < kenlyric> what in the wide wide world of sports is going on here?
2008-01-24 00:04 < LuciferTiger> and of those who DID vote, depending on how they were clustered, bush won different places.
2008-01-24 00:04 < kenlyric> <3 Blazing Saddles
2008-01-24 00:06 < LuciferTiger> awww he left without listening
2008-01-24 00:07 < Rjd0060> ...
2008-01-24 00:07 < LuciferTiger> oh wait
2008-01-24 00:07 < LuciferTiger> ure there :P
2008-01-24 00:07 < LuciferTiger> lol
2008-01-24 00:07 < Rjd0060> yeah, busy in #wikipedia-en too
2008-01-24 00:07 < Leslie_S> also you have to admit that theres the possibility of elector fraud
2008-01-24 00:07 < Leslie_S> i assume you understand the electoral college..
2008-01-24 00:07 < Rjd0060> yes
2008-01-24 00:07 < Rjd0060> hang on let me read what i missed
2008-01-24 00:07 < LuciferTiger> Leslie_S: no the fraud wasnt my point
2008-01-24 00:08 < Leslie_S> it took me polisci 101 to really understand the electoral college, heh.
2008-01-24 00:08 < Leslie_S> LuciferTiger true, just commenting on it though.
2008-01-24 00:08 < Rjd0060> i didn't support either of them
2008-01-24 00:08 < LuciferTiger> well see there are 3 groups. each have 100 ppl. and theres candidates A and B
2008-01-24 00:09 < LuciferTiger> whoever wins the max votes within the group takes the group
2008-01-24 00:09 < Rjd0060> I'm not one to pick the best of 2 evils ;)
2008-01-24 00:09 < Leslie_S> im going to bed
2008-01-24 00:09 < Leslie_S> night
2008-01-24 00:09 < Leslie_S> BROS BEFORE HOES
2008-01-24 00:09 < Leslie_S> :P
2008-01-24 00:09 < LuciferTiger> Group 1: 90: A, 10:B
2008-01-24 00:09 < LuciferTiger> Group 2: 55: A, 45:B
2008-01-24 00:09 < LuciferTiger> Group 3: 55: A, 45:B
2008-01-24 00:09 < LuciferTiger> no wait
2008-01-24 00:09 < LuciferTiger> Group 1: 90: A, 10:B
2008-01-24 00:10 < LuciferTiger> Group 2: 55: B, 45:A
2008-01-24 00:10 < LuciferTiger> Group 3: 55: B, 45:A
2008-01-24 00:10 < LuciferTiger> final score: B wins 2-1
2008-01-24 00:10 < LuciferTiger> but total votes: A has 180
2008-01-24 00:10 < LuciferTiger> B has 120
2008-01-24 00:10 < gwern> 'Think of it this way: If your six nines system goes down mysteriously just once and it takes you an hour to figure out the cause and fix it, well, you've just blown your downtime budget for the next century. Even the most notoriously reliable systems, like AT&T's long distance service, have had long outages (six hours in 1991) which put them at a rather embarrassing three nines ... and AT&T's long distance service is considered "carrier grade," the ...
2008-01-24 00:11 < gwern> ... gold standard for uptime.'
2008-01-24 00:11 < LuciferTiger> Rjd0060: u there dude? im making a very cool point here :D
2008-01-24 00:12 < Rjd0060> I see that. I agree that election was seriously flawed
2008-01-24 00:12 < Evil_Monkey> When will people learn - democracy doesn't work!
2008-01-24 00:12 < LuciferTiger> all of them are.
2008-01-24 00:12 < Rjd0060> All of them aren't
2008-01-24 00:12 < Rjd0060> All is a big word
2008-01-24 00:13 < JerseyDevil86> sometimes choosing the lesser of two evils is neccessary
2008-01-24 00:13 < LuciferTiger> i mean either way u decide to count, theres inherent flaws
2008-01-24 00:13 * Evil_Monkey notes that the Simpsons have used that line twice
2008-01-24 00:13 < Rjd0060> Yes, any way has problems. Nothing much to do though
2008-01-24 00:13 < Evil_Monkey> Kent Brockman: I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply doesn't work.
2008-01-24 00:13 < LuciferTiger> my point was more with the counting schemes than with the candidates
2008-01-24 00:13 < Evil_Monkey> Homer: When are people going to learn? ... Democracy doesn't work!
2008-01-24 00:14 < Rjd0060> What do you suggest to fix this problem, LuciferTiger ?
2008-01-24 00:14 < LuciferTiger> Evil_Monkey: lol
2008-01-24 00:14 < LuciferTiger> lol i'll keep that to myself. thats nobel prize material man.
2008-01-24 00:15 < gwern> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/04/13/princess-in-another-castle-sorry/ <-- what a neat hat. also: that cat has some very pretty fur
2008-01-24 00:15 < LuciferTiger> Rjd0060: not everything has a solution. atleast i dont have one. and i wasnt complaining. i was just describing a flaw.
2008-01-24 00:16 < LuciferTiger> gwern: awesome fur
2008-01-24 00:16 < LuciferTiger> my orange tabby - puss in boots lookalike - looks tame in front of that
2008-01-24 00:17 < Evil_Monkey> what will future people think when they find that one of the most popular sites on the internet featured photos of cats and badly spelled captions
2008-01-24 00:17 < LuciferTiger> rofl
2008-01-24 00:17 < gwern> LuciferTiger: er, yes. :) kind of why I mentioned it
2008-01-24 00:18 < Rjd0060> LuciferTiger: I think this is one thing that does not have a solution, and there never will be. People will always be unsatisfied with something.
2008-01-24 00:18 < LuciferTiger> Evil_Monkey: dunno how old u are, but my generation doest even have a decent rock star
2008-01-24 00:18 < gwern> Evil_Monkey: they will produce beautiful art books with careful annotations of lolcat argot
2008-01-24 00:18 < amidaniel> LuciferTiger: What are you talking about?! You have HIM!!!!
2008-01-24 00:18 * Evil_Monkey should mention that his rss reader is subscribed to cheezburger
2008-01-24 00:18 < gwern> Evil_Monkey: I suspect they will apply the standard techniques of poetry analysis to winkle out rhythm, standard formulae, inversions, allusions etc
2008-01-24 00:18 < amidaniel> :P
2008-01-24 00:18 < LuciferTiger> who?
2008-01-24 00:19 < gwern> not to mention the visual vocabulary employed on occasion, and the intrinsic interest of the pictures themselves
2008-01-24 00:19 < Evil_Monkey> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/18/funny-pictures-nom-nom-nom-nom/
2008-01-24 00:19 < Evil_Monkey> one of my recent favourites
2008-01-24 00:19 < LuciferTiger> nom = no in some langguage?
2008-01-24 00:19 < Evil_Monkey> I'd actually seen the photo earlier and thought it would make a perfect lolcat
2008-01-24 00:19 < gwern> '
2008-01-24 00:19 < gwern> '
2008-01-24 00:19 < gwern> PandaNOMium!
2008-01-24 00:20 < Rjd0060> But back to what we were saying earlier, there is no such thing as "the news" anymore, at least not in the US. Everything is crooked, its just determining how much. This is easy to determine in comparison to your political beliefs.
2008-01-24 00:20 < amidaniel> LuciferTiger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIM_%28band%29
2008-01-24 00:20 < gwern> amidaniel: not the powerpuff Him?
2008-01-24 00:20 < amidaniel> Thar's a powerpuff named Him?
2008-01-24 00:20 * amidaniel is out of it
2008-01-24 00:20 < Evil_Monkey> LuciferTiger: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/18/funny-pictures-nom-nom-nom-nom/
2008-01-24 00:20 < LuciferTiger> amidaniel: i was thinking someone in the class of Pink Floyd, rolling stones, eagles, and such
2008-01-24 00:20 < Evil_Monkey> LuciferTiger: oops
2008-01-24 00:20 < Evil_Monkey> LuciferTiger: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nom
2008-01-24 00:21 < Evil_Monkey> that was the link I meant
2008-01-24 00:21 < gwern> 'Bengals cats vocalize to communicate with their humans. Bonded cats can be taught tricks such as sit and shaking hands, and go outdoors on leashes for walks.' <-- are you thinking what I am thinking?
2008-01-24 00:21 < amidaniel> LuciferTiger: Yes, I was being facetious :) I know far too many people who believe HIM to be the new Hendrix .. it's very obnoxious
2008-01-24 00:21 < LuciferTiger> like ppl used to think that britney was the queen of music.
2008-01-24 00:21 < amidaniel> Indeed :)
2008-01-24 00:21 < gwern> amidaniel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Him_(powerpuff_girls)#Villains
2008-01-24 00:22 < amidaniel> And Michael too, if you do recall :)
2008-01-24 00:22 < Rjd0060> ok, heading back to #wikipedia-en now. See you all later.
2008-01-24 00:22 < amidaniel> Well, "King of Pop" is what they called him iirc
2008-01-24 00:22 < LuciferTiger> Evil_Monkey: aah. once i saw a pic with a dog wit a cats head in his jaws and the cat looking out with "nom nom nom"
2008-01-24 00:22 * gwern reads the bengal cat article. If only I had THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!
2008-01-24 00:23 < LuciferTiger> lol yeah but he DID have good music for his time before going all weird.
2008-01-24 00:23 < amidaniel> Hehe ... I liked it when he was younger. Can't stand it now
2008-01-24 00:23 < LuciferTiger> true
2008-01-24 00:23 < amidaniel> Erm .. when I* was younger
2008-01-24 00:23 * LuciferTiger rushes to hide his "backstreets back" album
2008-01-24 00:23 < amidaniel> I just never really saw what made him so distinct from other popstars
2008-01-24 00:24 < amidaniel> I mean other than the molesting children thing and the mysteriously turning white thing
2008-01-24 00:24 < LuciferTiger> last of the good bands were U2 and Linkin Park IMHO
2008-01-24 00:24 < amidaniel> Linkin Park?! Ewwwww
2008-01-24 00:24 < LuciferTiger> i have a notoriously bad memory
2008-01-24 00:24 < amidaniel> I'll give you U2, but not Linkin Park
2008-01-24 00:25 < LuciferTiger> well yeah i like their music style. i shuld have said "my faves"
2008-01-24 00:25 < LuciferTiger> new ones fail to impress me.
2008-01-24 00:25 < Evil_Monkey> LuciferTiger: http://store.theonion.com/your-favorite-band-sucks-p-78.html
2008-01-24 00:25 < amidaniel> heh
2008-01-24 00:26 < LuciferTiger> lol. that and the no one cares bout your highschool sweetheart
2008-01-24 00:26 < LuciferTiger> alteast LP had some different innovative music style. not 'clones'
2008-01-24 00:29 * gurch points out to quanticle|away when he comes back that huggle does not make extensive use of query.php, but rather uses it in only one case where the API does not provide the needed functionality
2008-01-24 00:29 * gurch also points out that it is unwise to rely on it for anything since it will eventually cease to exist
2008-01-24 00:30 * LuciferTiger points out to gurch that a PM would be more visible
2008-01-24 00:34 * LuciferTiger points out to himself that he killed that chat and should be less of a jerk
2008-01-24 00:38 < Stormscape> You know what's funny? you know why I made a Wikipedia account? Cause of the Eurotrip article.
2008-01-24 00:39 < Stormscape> 3 years ago that article was a mess
2008-01-24 00:39 < LuciferTiger> http://cheezburger.istheshit.net/
2008-01-24 00:55 < amidaniel> Does it seem obscene to anyone else to have *three* commercial breaks during a 30 minute show?
2008-01-24 00:58 < gwern> amidaniel: no. 'content is just what separates the ads', after all
2008-01-24 01:01 < amidaniel> hmm .. and you wonder why I don't like television :)
2008-01-24 01:01 < amidaniel> Of course the whole DVR / Tivo thing has made it slightly more bearable
2008-01-24 01:01 < Mike_H> amidaniel: There are usually four.
2008-01-24 01:02 < Mike_H> So for three?
2008-01-24 01:02 < Mike_H> No, not at all.
2008-01-24 01:02 < amidaniel> Maybe on the shows you watch ...
2008-01-24 01:02 < Mike_H> Most shows have four.
2008-01-24 01:02 < Mike_H> I watch more TV than you do, I would know ;)
2008-01-24 01:02 < amidaniel> Meh, maybe you're right
2008-01-24 01:02 < amidaniel> Two seems excessive to me
2008-01-24 01:02 < Mike_H> In a half-hour show, there are four
2008-01-24 01:02 < amidaniel> Three is just insane
2008-01-24 01:02 < Mike_H> in an hour show, there are seven.
2008-01-24 01:03 < Mike_H> At least on network television.
2008-01-24 01:03 < Mike_H> A cable production can get away with five breaks an hour.
2008-01-24 01:03 * amidaniel imagines if he had five breaks an hour
2008-01-24 01:25 < flamingspinach> lmao
2008-01-24 01:25 < flamingspinach> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tgies/article-naughty
2008-01-24 01:25 < flamingspinach> this should be moved into mainspace :D
2008-01-24 01:33 < Luna-San> flamingspinach: Or featured on [[Main Page]]
2008-01-24 01:34 < flamingspinach> haha
2008-01-24 01:55 < gwern> [[Fucking, Austria]] <-- gotta admit, funny name
2008-01-24 01:57 < OverlordQ> thus Fucking means "(place of) Focko’s people.
2008-01-24 01:57 < OverlordQ> hehe
2008-01-24 01:58 < SPUI> <flamingspinach> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomp
2008-01-24 01:58 < SPUI> <flamingspinach> this should be deleted :D
2008-01-24 01:59 * amidaniel glomps SPUI
2008-01-24 02:00 < Mike_H> fucking Austria.
2008-01-24 02:01 < Mike_H> People tend to forget about Austria.
2008-01-24 02:01 < Mike_H> My own European History teacher in high school told me that Austria was communist during the Cold War :D
2008-01-24 02:01 < Mike_H> even he forgot Austria
2008-01-24 02:02 < amidaniel> That's sort of correct
2008-01-24 02:03 < Mike_H> I'm from the South. "Communist" means "Warsaw Pact nations" when we speak./
2008-01-24 02:03 < amidaniel> I mean, it was under Soviet rule for about 5yrs of the Cold War
2008-01-24 02:03 * amidaniel shakes his head
2008-01-24 02:04 * LuciferTiger dumps amidaniel amid lots of niels
2008-01-24 02:05 < LuciferTiger> brb
2008-01-24 02:14 < patba1> hi, is there a way to find the recent additoins page on a wp in a language i don't really know? (nahuatl, nah.wikipedia.org)
2008-01-24 02:14 < Mike_H> What language is it?
2008-01-24 02:15 < patba1> oh, i think i found it: http://nah.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Newpages
2008-01-24 02:15 < Mike_H> That's the newest pages
2008-01-24 02:15 < patba1> nahuatl, (formerly known as aztec, kind of)
2008-01-24 02:15 < Mike_H> "recent additions" is different
2008-01-24 02:15 < Mike_H> on en it's for Did you know?
2008-01-24 02:15 < patba1> yeah that's hwat i was looking for (was confused about recent additions)
2008-01-24 02:15 < Mike_H> okay
2008-01-24 02:15 < patba1> okay. thanks :)
2008-01-24 02:16 < Mike_H> yeah, in nearly all languages if you mouse over a link
2008-01-24 02:16 < Mike_H> and it says
2008-01-24 02:16 < hta> *klunk*
2008-01-24 02:16 < Mike_H> "Newpages"
2008-01-24 02:16 < Mike_H> you found it
2008-01-24 02:16 < patba1> i just went to Special:Newpages on en, and replaced en with nah in the url
2008-01-24 02:16 < Mike_H> ;)
2008-01-24 02:16 < patba1> and interestingly enough, i ended up on Especial:Newpages
2008-01-24 02:16 < patba1> which i find sort of confusing
2008-01-24 02:17 < Mike_H> "especial" is the word for "special" in Spanish
2008-01-24 02:17 < Mike_H> and I'm assuming also for Nahuatl
2008-01-24 02:17 < patba1> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Newpages going to for instance doesn't work
2008-01-24 02:17 < LuciferTiger> k'thunk
2008-01-24 02:17 < LuciferTiger> xyzzy spoon
2008-01-24 02:17 < Mike_H> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Neue_Seiten
2008-01-24 02:18 < LuciferTiger> who recognizes these?
2008-01-24 02:18 < Mike_H> In German "special" is "spezial"
2008-01-24 02:18 < patba1> yeah. but i mean, what's suprising to me is that changing en to nah worked at all
2008-01-24 02:18 < Mike_H> the other languages will recognize English
2008-01-24 02:18 < Mike_H> but German will not recognize Spanish
2008-01-24 02:18 < Mike_H> etc.
2008-01-24 02:18 < Triona> makes sense, because the software developers work in english
2008-01-24 02:18 < patba1> ah, that makes sense.