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2008-01-19 01:32 < Axeman> which would make cutting down trees so much easier
2008-01-19 01:32 < Big-Brother> ◘
2008-01-19 01:32 < Axeman> although I'd only be able to do it once a day
2008-01-19 01:32 < LuciferTiger> Axeman: I made no such deal
2008-01-19 01:33 < Axeman> so I'd have to aim it ergonomically to hit as many trees as possible in a straight line to get as much chopping done as humanly capable
2008-01-19 01:33 * Axeman rummages about a bit in his coat pocket
2008-01-19 01:33 < Big-Brother> N♣┴αûI}╡-╕☼Ü+╝o▐76~░4nJ◘ª~▌
2008-01-19 01:33 * Axeman hands LuciferTiger a pile of several bewildered orphans
2008-01-19 01:33 < Axeman> here... sacrifice them
2008-01-19 01:34 < Messedrocker> Axeman, how much is that in dollars?
2008-01-19 01:34 * Axeman gives LuciferTiger knife
2008-01-19 01:34 < Messedrocker> or as Kaz would say, US DORRARS?
2008-01-19 01:34 < Big-Brother> ¡‼54Ä65A╣¼->)ΣˆÔ►
2008-01-19 01:34 < Axeman> MessedRocker: About 500 USD... approx. 1 euro
2008-01-19 01:34 < Axeman> erm, now don't do something weird like stab them with the knife
2008-01-19 01:35 * LuciferTiger waves his tentacles.... no no i demand college chicks
2008-01-19 01:35 * Triona thought the exchange rate was $2^1024:1
2008-01-19 01:35 < Big-Brother> ◙ÿÜ+Ü◙j╛:‼┼/i₧┼├Στ◘
2008-01-19 01:35 < Axeman> when I said "sacrifice", I meant "serve a tasty meal"
2008-01-19 01:35 < Axeman> because that's what "sacfrifice" means, doesn't it?
2008-01-19 01:35 * Axeman looks it up in a dictionary
2008-01-19 01:35 < Axeman> OH... OH DEAR GOD
2008-01-19 01:35 < Axeman> HOLY SHIT, CHTHULU WANTED ME TO KILL 7 ORPHANS?
2008-01-19 01:36 < Axeman> I WOULD NEVER...ummmm...
2008-01-19 01:36 < Axeman> wait a sec, I already did that once
2008-01-19 01:36 < Big-Brother> ÿ░«│iA]r½╦╛╣╓♦41«65•98╤╚7b7A4◘•8•5çD7P5ß56654‼9♥B>98☺4♠4I564t465♦
2008-01-19 01:36 < Axeman> then again, they were zombies
2008-01-19 01:36 < Axeman> and therefore not human
2008-01-19 01:36 < Axeman> <_<
2008-01-19 01:36 < Axeman> >_>
2008-01-19 01:36 * OverlordQ slaps Big-Brother around a bit with a large trout
2008-01-19 01:36 < Big-Brother> Ñ}!
2008-01-19 01:36 < Krimpet> Big-Brother, I dunno what encoding you're using, but stick to ASCII/UTF-8, please
2008-01-19 01:36 * Axeman presents his zombie quintessence to Chthulu
2008-01-19 01:36 * Big-Brother is using UTF-8
2008-01-19 01:37 * Axeman learns Hadoken
2008-01-19 01:37 < Krimpet> ...then stop flooding the channel.
2008-01-19 01:37 * Axeman mutters an incantation and waves his arms about
2008-01-19 01:37 < Ceiling_Cat> Goodnight folks!
2008-01-19 01:37 * Ceiling_Cat waves
2008-01-19 01:37 < Big-Brother> Good night Ceiling_Cat
2008-01-19 01:37 * Axeman thrusts his hands in the general direction of Hannah Montana
2008-01-19 01:37 * ronabop ?
2008-01-19 01:37 * Krimpet was AGFing that it was a foreign user trying to speak, not someone spewing random crap. :/
2008-01-19 01:37 < Axeman> HHHHHAAAAADDDDDOOOOOKKKKKEEEEENNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-01-19 01:37 * Messedrocker also engages in ephebophilic gestures regarding Ms. Montana
2008-01-19 01:38 * Axeman BLLUUUUURRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM
2008-01-19 01:38 < Big-Brother> Hi bumm13!
2008-01-19 01:38 < Axeman> hmm
2008-01-19 01:38 < Messedrocker> hi bumm13
2008-01-19 01:38 < Messedrocker> the hourless man
2008-01-19 01:38 * Axeman surveys the vaporized remains of Hannah Montana
2008-01-19 01:38 < bumm13> :)
2008-01-19 01:38 < Axeman> well, this sucks
2008-01-19 01:38 < bumm13> hiya Messedrocker
2008-01-19 01:39 < Axeman> I thought I'd have enough left over for necrophi-
2008-01-19 01:39 * Axeman notices bumm13
2008-01-19 01:39 < Axeman> Oh hi there... I'm just sitting over here...
2008-01-19 01:39 < Axeman> not at all talking about murder and necrophilia
2008-01-19 01:39 * Axeman chuckles nervously
2008-01-19 01:39 * Axeman flees
2008-01-19 01:40 * Big-Brother shoots Axeman with his phaser rifle
2008-01-19 01:40 < Big-Brother> Ooops, I think that was set to "vaporize"
2008-01-19 01:41 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-19 01:41 * Axeman is immune
2008-01-19 01:42 * Big-Brother fires 100kg matter/antimatter multi-warhead missile at Axeman
2008-01-19 01:42 * Axeman IS IMMUNE, BITCH
2008-01-19 01:42 < Big-Brother> O_O
2008-01-19 01:42 * Big-Brother arrests Axeman for thoughtcrime
2008-01-19 01:42 < Axeman> WHAT PART OF 4TH-DIMENSIONAL MATTER DID NOT YOU UNDERSTAND
2008-01-19 01:43 * Axeman warps into 4th dimension and chills with Chthulu
2008-01-19 01:43 * Big-Brother sends Axeman to the Ministry of Love
2008-01-19 01:43 * Big-Brother sends Axeman to Room 101
2008-01-19 01:43 < Axeman> Ooh, ministry of love?
2008-01-19 01:43 < Axeman> sounds hot
2008-01-19 01:43 < Axeman> what's in room 101
2008-01-19 01:43 < Big-Brother> I see someone has not been reading his Orwell
2008-01-19 01:44 < Axeman> I read the book
2008-01-19 01:44 < LuciferTiger> NOOO not room 101
2008-01-19 01:44 < Axeman> I'm just being a dick
2008-01-19 01:44 < Axeman> >_>
2008-01-19 01:45 < Axeman> room 101 would be kinda cool, if instead of that creepy dude, there was a naked chick doing the stuff
2008-01-19 01:45 * Big-Brother has figured out LuciferTiger's worst fear... THE RATS!
2008-01-19 01:45 < yao_ziyuan> yay! my wikipedia edits have survived for several hours...
2008-01-19 01:45 < Axeman> "How many lights do you see?" "I see 2 huge lights. Rowwww."
2008-01-19 01:45 < bumm13> :\
2008-01-19 01:45 < Big-Brother> THERE ARE FOUR LIIIIIIIGHTS!
2008-01-19 01:45 < Axeman> they'd have a damn field day with me
2008-01-19 01:45 < Axeman> four lights
2008-01-19 01:46 * Axeman looks at anatomy chart
2008-01-19 01:46 < Axeman> O_________o
2008-01-19 01:46 * Big-Brother has been watching too much Star Trek: The Next Generation
2008-01-19 01:46 < Big-Brother> Axeman: Trekkie joke
2008-01-19 01:46 < Axeman> OKAY, IF THERE'S A CHICK WITH 4 LIGHTS STANDING ANYWHERE NEAR ME, I'M GETTING THE HELL OUT OF THAT ROOM PRONTO
2008-01-19 01:46 < Axeman> O_O
2008-01-19 01:46 < Axeman> assuming, of course, "lights" is a metaphor for "breasts"
2008-01-19 01:46 < Axeman> if she's actually holding 4 lights, I've got no problem with that
2008-01-19 01:46 < Big-Brother> **** <- How many asterisks are there?
2008-01-19 01:47 < Axeman> I DUNNO LOL
2008-01-19 01:47 < Big-Brother> hint: fiv_
2008-01-19 01:47 < Big-Brother> C'mon, people, no trekkies in here?
2008-01-19 01:49 < Axeman> Big-Brother: Fiviality?
2008-01-19 01:49 < Axeman> Is that even a word?
2008-01-19 01:49 < Axeman> It should be
2008-01-19 01:52 < Big-Brother> If you don't get the four/five lights thing, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_of_Command_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
2008-01-19 01:52 < Big-Brother> with the ending )
2008-01-19 01:54 * NotACow giggles
2008-01-19 01:54 < Big-Brother> THERE... ARE... *FOUR* LIGHTS!
2008-01-19 01:56 < ski_> can user accounts be shared between different language "versions" of wikipedia ?
2008-01-19 01:56 < The359> no
2008-01-19 01:56 < ski_> (i.e. : or do i have to create a new, unassociated one, for another language ?)
2008-01-19 01:56 < The359> you have to create an account for every language
2008-01-19 01:56 < ski_> ok, ty fyi
2008-01-19 01:56 < The359> and for Wikimedia, Wikibooks, Wikitionary, etc
2008-01-19 01:57 < ski_> understood
2008-01-19 02:01 < NotACow> THERE ARE PHI LIGHTS
2008-01-19 02:02 < Messedrocker> THERE ARE e^(iπ) LIGHTS
2008-01-19 02:04 * Big-Brother wonders what would happen should he open safety release valves 1-4, 14, and 15 at a nuclear reactor
2008-01-19 02:07 < ronabop> Big-Brother: How far away is it from Portland, Oregon?
2008-01-19 02:07 < Big-Brother> Messedrocker: Do you know what would happen happen if I should open safety release valves 1-4, 14, and 15 at a nuclear reactor?
2008-01-19 02:07 < Big-Brother> ronabop: Over 1,000
2008-01-19 02:07 < ronabop> Well, in that case, experiment away!
2008-01-19 02:08 < Messedrocker> Big-Brother, widespread radiation?
2008-01-19 02:08 < Big-Brother> (I know what it does)
2008-01-19 02:08 < Big-Brother> It would cause a primary coolant leak that would cause the reactor to go supercritical and melt down, in theory
2008-01-19 02:10 < Messedrocker> how likely is a modern hard drive of a large size going to fail?
2008-01-19 02:10 < ronabop> Melting down isn't so bad. Blowing up tends to be worse.
2008-01-19 02:10 < ronabop> Messedrocker: 100%, given enough years. :P
2008-01-19 02:10 < Messedrocker> okay
2008-01-19 02:10 < Messedrocker> uhhh
2008-01-19 02:11 < Messedrocker> say within a 10 year period
2008-01-19 02:11 < Messedrocker> considering the hard drive was made this year, 2008
2008-01-19 02:12 < ronabop> What's the MTBF rating/estimate on the drive?
2008-01-19 02:12 < Messedrocker> fuck if i know!
2008-01-19 02:12 * Messedrocker is speaking in hypotheticals
2008-01-19 02:13 < Drunken_Idiot> HI
2008-01-19 02:14 < Big-Brother> Bonjour, comment ca va?
2008-01-19 02:14 < ronabop> http://db.usenix.org/events/fast07/tech/schroeder/schroeder_html/index.html <---long version
2008-01-19 02:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Big-Brother: Bonjour, bien merci et toi?
2008-01-19 02:14 < Big-Brother> Tres bien, merci
2008-01-19 02:15 < Drunken_Idiot> :)
2008-01-19 02:15 < Messedrocker> a BD-RW (and accompanying drive) vs. a hard drive
2008-01-19 02:15 < ronabop> Short version is that drives fail about once every 5 years, fail in a day if you're unlucky, last 15 years if you're lucky.
2008-01-19 02:15 < Messedrocker> which will have complications first?
2008-01-19 02:16 < Big-Brother> Messedrocker: Depends
2008-01-19 02:16 < ronabop> BD-RW can get scratched, no? *Easy* fail.
2008-01-19 02:16 < Big-Brother> BD medium in general is the easiest optical medium to damage
2008-01-19 02:16 < Messedrocker> okay, but what if it spends its existence inside a disc drive?
2008-01-19 02:16 < Messedrocker> but say it never leaves the disc drive
2008-01-19 02:17 < Messedrocker> also, what would the likelihood be of the disc drive itself getting complications?
2008-01-19 02:17 < Big-Brother> Messedrocker: The BD will last longer than the HD, the HD will last between 3 - 7 years, BluRay, if burned, at least 10 years if it is kept in a dry, dark place, if pressed (commercial disks), indefinite life time
2008-01-19 02:17 < ronabop> A sealed drive, that cannot be opened/closed? (Hypotheticals)... lasers don't drag, but the RW tech may have a lifespan (as does CD-RW)....
2008-01-19 02:17 < Big-Brother> However, BD-RW is more unstable than BD-R, so BD-RW will have a shorter life time
2008-01-19 02:19 < Axeman> WUSS
2008-01-19 02:19 < Messedrocker> ronabop, how about this: the drive can technically be open/closed, but it will practically spend all of its time closed
2008-01-19 02:19 < Axeman> WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD MP3S OFF THE INTERNET...
2008-01-19 02:19 < Axeman> YOU'RE DOWNLOADING COMMUNISM
2008-01-19 02:19 < ronabop> For hardcore archives, I'm still all about caddied glass-magneto-opticals. Lower capacity, though.
2008-01-19 02:20 < Big-Brother> Well, I can sum up everything that has to do with computers like this:
2008-01-19 02:20 < Messedrocker> see the reason why i thought of BD-RW is because it has the advantage of a disc (not as easily damaged)
2008-01-19 02:20 < Messedrocker> plus it's really high capacity
2008-01-19 02:20 < Big-Brother> ACHTUNG!
2008-01-19 02:20 < Big-Brother> ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
2008-01-19 02:20 < Messedrocker> and "not as easily damaged" assuming it never leaves the drive
2008-01-19 02:20 < Big-Brother> DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
2008-01-19 02:20 < Big-Brother> IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
2008-01-19 02:20 < Big-Brother> ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
2008-01-19 02:21 < Big-Brother> Messedrocker: The longer it is in the drive, the more chance that it jams or something else like that
2008-01-19 02:21 < Messedrocker> now, my other option is a solid-state drive
2008-01-19 02:21 < Messedrocker> what's the largest solid-state drives have gotten?
2008-01-19 02:21 < ronabop> Drive mechanism failure....
2008-01-19 02:21 < OverlordQ> 64 gig? 128 maybe
2008-01-19 02:21 < Big-Brother> Messedrocker: 128 GP
2008-01-19 02:21 < Big-Brother> *GB
2008-01-19 02:21 < OverlordQ> still expensive as all hell though
2008-01-19 02:21 < ronabop> No no no......
2008-01-19 02:22 < Axeman> anyway... so I learned it's legal to tape a program off television, and watch it once, but it's illegal to watch it more than once
2008-01-19 02:22 < ronabop> "at CES 2008, BiTMICRO Networks announced the release of SSD drives with capacities of up to 832GB, for release in Q3 2008"
2008-01-19 02:23 < OverlordQ> lol
2008-01-19 02:23 < Big-Brother> :-P
2008-01-19 02:23 < ronabop> Time-shifting is not perpetual storage, yes, but....
2008-01-19 02:23 < ronabop> "Typical Flash storage will typically wear out after 300,000-500,000 write cycles, while high endurance Flash storage is often marketed with endurance of 1?5 million write cycles (many log files, file allocation tables, and other commonly used parts of the file system exceed this over the lifetime of a computer)."
2008-01-19 02:25 < ronabop> ... it's not illegal to watch more than once, depending on the content, and your agreements with the content suppliers.
2008-01-19 02:28 < ronabop> Axeman, did you see some sort of strange judgement?
2008-01-19 02:29 < Axeman> ronabop: wait, wut?
2008-01-19 02:29 < ronabop> "anyway... so I learned it's legal to tape a program off television, and watch it once, but it's illegal to watch it more than once"
2008-01-19 02:30 < ronabop> How did upi "learn" this?
2008-01-19 02:30 < ronabop> *you
2008-01-19 02:31 < Messedrocker> hmmhmhmhmmmm
2008-01-19 02:31 < Messedrocker> i have an idea that will appeal to a niche!
2008-01-19 02:31 < LuciferTiger> nooks
2008-01-19 02:31 < Axeman> /ignore *!*@*
2008-01-19 02:32 < Axeman> ronabop: stupid class where we had to learn copyright laws
2008-01-19 02:32 < Axeman> every time I read them, I want to find whoever was responsible for making them, and have them assraped by a large black man
2008-01-19 02:37 < ronabop> Copyright law *where*?
2008-01-19 02:39 < ski_> how do i add a "languages" link ?
2008-01-19 02:40 < ronabop> [Sony_Corp._v._Universal_City_Studios], with an additional reading/interpretation that said that multiple viewings hasn't been decided?
2008-01-19 02:44 < ronabop> There's certainly an argument to be *made* that the TV station doesn't get additional ad revenue from other advertisers on subsequent viewings, do you have a precedent I can look at somewhere?
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> ski_: like in [[ar:?????? ???]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[bn:??????? ???]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[bs:Angkor Vat]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[cs:Angkor Wat]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[da:Angkor Wat]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[de:Angkor Wat]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[et:Angkor Wat]]
2008-01-19 02:46 < ronabop> [[es:Angkor Wat]]
2008-01-19 02:47 < ski_> so i add that at the beginning of the page ?
2008-01-19 02:48 < ronabop> ski_: Convention is typically to add it to the end.
2008-01-19 02:48 < ski_> ok, ty
2008-01-19 02:50 < ski_> (i was expecting some kind of special linkage that automatically were symmetric and transitive)
2008-01-19 02:51 * bumm13 finally finishes replying to an angered wikipedia over some pet article
2008-01-19 02:53 < Big-Brother> bumm13: Can I see?
2008-01-19 02:53 < ronabop> YUR IN MY ARTICL DELETING MY CHANGES!!!!
2008-01-19 02:54 < bumm13> well, apparently I got overzealous about a really-shittily written article and history purged it
2008-01-19 02:54 < Axeman> bumm13: let them
2008-01-19 02:54 * ronabop notes that lolcats has helped him keep his cool immensely
2008-01-19 02:54 < bumm13> (when it didn't need it or something)
2008-01-19 02:54 < ronabop> oops. :)
2008-01-19 02:54 < bumm13> oh well
2008-01-19 02:54 < bumm13> shit happens
2008-01-19 02:55 < bumm13> it's not like other articles *haven't* needed it ;p
2008-01-19 02:55 < Big-Brother> bumm13: Just claim that you had a bout of rogue adminitis, even though there is no such thing
2008-01-19 02:56 < Axeman> ronabop: I hate you.
2008-01-19 02:57 * bumm13 cleans his hands of that particular article
2008-01-19 02:57 < ronabop> Moving history-purge into oversight would add a lot of oversight work..... sometimes I wonder if janitors should specialize, as to not get so over-loaded.
2008-01-19 02:58 * ronabop feels hated by one more.... of 6 billion
2008-01-19 02:58 < ronabop> :)
2008-01-19 02:59 < ronabop> "I'm a CSD:A7 janitor, but not an AfD closer, conflict of interest, that".
2008-01-19 03:01 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-19 03:02 < ronabop> Of course, it could make RfA a bit more... tricky, but certain personalities simply fit certain kinds of work.
2008-01-19 03:08 < ronabop> True story: On the PHP project, we've had an "erroneus bug" hunter who went by the handle "sniper". The amusing thing is that he was actually a field trained military sniper IRL, perfect for sniffing out targets and minimizing collateral damage.
2008-01-19 03:14 < Axeman> http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg10/Frameviper/ronery4.png?t=1200730416
2008-01-19 03:16 < Mike_H> okay, the world needs to end
2008-01-19 03:16 < Mike_H> clearly we are all just out to hurt one another
2008-01-19 03:16 < Mike_H> I just read...
2008-01-19 03:16 < Mike_H> ...that they're putting My Two Dads out on DVD D:
2008-01-19 03:17 < Axeman> THE USERNAME FOR 12CHAN IS "12chan" AND THE PASSWORD IS "yeastinfection"
2008-01-19 03:18 < Big-Brother> o...k
2008-01-19 03:18 < MidnightCommando> um...
2008-01-19 03:18 < Big-Brother> Axeman: Did we really need to know that?
2008-01-19 03:18 < MidnightCommando> i think that in itself is b& worth
2008-01-19 03:19 < MidnightCommando> i mean, the only reason 12chan really exists is guro and kiddie porn
2008-01-19 03:19 < Axeman> Big-Brother: right
2008-01-19 03:19 < Axeman> MidnightCommando: according to you
2008-01-19 03:21 < MidnightCommando> Axeman: i'm not proud to admit i've had run-ins with its admins before
2008-01-19 03:21 * Big-Brother must now go to bed, good night!
2008-01-19 03:21 < MidnightCommando> mostly with me accusing them of debauchery, but that's not the point
2008-01-19 03:22 < Axeman> wow
2008-01-19 03:22 < Axeman> you'd really have to fuck up to get a *4chan* mod angry at you
2008-01-19 03:23 < Axeman> I mean, usually you have to post guro-vore-naga-scat-bondage child porn to get banned
2008-01-19 03:23 < MidnightCommando> i'm not talking of 4chan, i'm talking of 12chan :p
2008-01-19 03:23 < Axeman> not that I would know
2008-01-19 03:23 < Axeman> <_<
2008-01-19 03:30 < MidnightCommando> I've decided wikipedia needs a new babel box to complement en-gb-* that is en-rp-* that is level * of Recieved Pronounciation
2008-01-19 03:30 < MidnightCommando> also, does wikipedia have a babel box for latin?
2008-01-19 03:48 < Sepultura> Hallo
2008-01-19 03:49 < wimt> MidnightCommando, yeah it's {{user la-0}} to {{user la-4}}
2008-01-19 03:49 < wimt> Hey Sepultura :-)
2008-01-19 03:49 < Sepultura> how are you?
2008-01-19 03:50 < wimt> I'm good thanks. You?
2008-01-19 03:50 < Sepultura> I am fine
2008-01-19 03:50 < Sepultura> where are you from?
2008-01-19 03:51 < Sepultura> I am German
2008-01-19 03:51 * wimt is from England
2008-01-19 03:52 < Sepultura> wow. London?
2008-01-19 03:54 < wimt> Cambridge at this moment - not far from London
2008-01-19 03:54 < Sepultura> how is the city where the sun never shines?
2008-01-19 03:54 < Sepultura> I mean London :)
2008-01-19 03:57 < wimt> It's good :-)
2008-01-19 03:57 < Sepultura> You are a Cambridge Student?
2008-01-19 03:59 < MidnightCommando> -0 ?
2008-01-19 04:00 < MidnightCommando> wimt: -0 would mean NO latin!
2008-01-19 04:00 < wimt> MidnightCommando, heh yeah
2008-01-19 04:00 < wimt> It exists though
2008-01-19 04:00 < MidnightCommando> then why have that tag?
2008-01-19 04:00 < wimt> Sepultura, indeed
2008-01-19 04:00 < LuciferTiger> IN YOUR FACE AUSSIES!!!
2008-01-19 04:00 < MidnightCommando> ok, i think la-2 would be right fo me
2008-01-19 04:00 < MidnightCommando> LuciferTiger: grow up.
2008-01-19 04:00 < wimt> MidnightCommando, I've never really understood why the -0 ones exist
2008-01-19 04:00 < Sepultura> wimt omg :o
2008-01-19 04:01 < Sepultura> The Best University after Harvard
2008-01-19 04:01 < LuciferTiger> MidnightCommando: where u from?
2008-01-19 04:01 < MidnightCommando> LuciferTiger: unfortunately i reside in australia
2008-01-19 04:02 < LuciferTiger> MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2008-01-19 04:02 < MidnightCommando> but i am english/german
2008-01-19 04:02 < LuciferTiger> lol thats even worse
2008-01-19 04:02 < Sepultura> MidnightCommando: you can speak German?
2008-01-19 04:02 < MidnightCommando> so with due respect, shove that up your rearward orifice and smoke it.
2008-01-19 04:02 < LuciferTiger> the english part not the german part
2008-01-19 04:02 < MidnightCommando> Sepultura: some
2008-01-19 04:02 < OverlordQ> I'd have to say Australia is the only other country I'd like to visit
2008-01-19 04:03 < LuciferTiger> MidnightCommando: youre just sour cuz u lost
2008-01-19 04:04 < LuciferTiger> did i kill the chat? damn.
2008-01-19 04:04 < MidnightCommando> LuciferTiger: bollocks
2008-01-19 04:04 < Sepultura> MidnightCommando: What's so bad in Australia?
2008-01-19 04:04 < LuciferTiger> lol
2008-01-19 04:05 < MidnightCommando> i'm sour cos jackasses like you exist
2008-01-19 04:05 < Sepultura> except it's a wired country
2008-01-19 04:05 < MidnightCommando> and diss us continually
2008-01-19 04:05 < LuciferTiger> teah whatever
2008-01-19 04:05 < arcimboldo_> wired?
2008-01-19 04:05 < Sepultura> wierd*
2008-01-19 04:05 < MidnightCommando> Sepultura: it's hot and murky and boring
2008-01-19 04:05 < arcimboldo_> weird
2008-01-19 04:05 < MidnightCommando> and there isn't anything to do
2008-01-19 04:05 < Sepultura> Move to Germany :D
2008-01-19 04:05 < arcimboldo_> Which part of Australia are you living in?
2008-01-19 04:05 < Sepultura> It's fine here
2008-01-19 04:05 < arcimboldo_> In the middle of the outback?
2008-01-19 04:06 < Sepultura> Australia is as conservative as the USA
2008-01-19 04:07 < LuciferTiger> for the record, i dont diss australia continuously, only on the very very rare occassions when we beat u in cricket. otherwise i like aussies infact
2008-01-19 04:07 < Mike_H> America has a cricket team?
2008-01-19 04:07 < LuciferTiger> Mike_H: duuude... the BEST in the world
2008-01-19 04:07 < MidnightCommando> arcimboldo_: southwestern sydney
2008-01-19 04:07 < Sepultura> One positive thing for Australia is that Australia is fighting the whaling
2008-01-19 04:07 < MidnightCommando> near liverpool
2008-01-19 04:07 < arcimboldo_> Sydney is a great place ...
2008-01-19 04:07 < Mike_H> I didn't even know Americans knew how to play cricket.
2008-01-19 04:07 < LuciferTiger> they dont have a team, they have a fucking cricket machine.
2008-01-19 04:08 < Sepultura> Wasn't Australia a reservoir for British Criminals?
2008-01-19 04:08 < arcimboldo_> One of the nicest cities I've been to.
2008-01-19 04:08 < MidnightCommando> LuciferTiger: oh for christs sakes, cricket isn't everything, unless the english are playing then it's my duty to see the english kick australia's arse :)
2008-01-19 04:08 < Mike_H> Sepultura: ...three centuries ago. :)
2008-01-19 04:08 < arcimboldo_> They play American Cricket and call it baseball.
2008-01-19 04:08 < LuciferTiger> awww ure no fun MidnightCommando :P
2008-01-19 04:08 < LuciferTiger> Mike_H, i dont suppose you follow cricket
2008-01-19 04:09 * MidnightCommando politely stabs LuciferTiger in the face
2008-01-19 04:09 < Mike_H> I'm American
2008-01-19 04:09 < Mike_H> so no.
2008-01-19 04:09 < bumm13> cricket is like a cult
2008-01-19 04:09 < Sepultura> it's legal to be homosexual in Australia?
2008-01-19 04:09 < bumm13> it makes no sense to regular people ;p
2008-01-19 04:09 < MidnightCommando> unfortunately.
2008-01-19 04:09 < MidnightCommando> @ Sepultura
2008-01-19 04:09 < Mike_H> Wait, what?
2008-01-19 04:09 < Sepultura> MidnightCommando: ?
2008-01-19 04:09 < Mike_H> "unfortunately"?
2008-01-19 04:10 < LuciferTiger> and today is like the first time any team beat the aussies in a test match in ages. and no one can remember when was the last time they lost at home.
2008-01-19 04:10 < Sepultura> everyone has the right to be gay or lesbian
2008-01-19 04:10 < Sepultura> it's their privacy
2008-01-19 04:10 < OverlordQ> yay for lesbians!
2008-01-19 04:10 < MidnightCommando> Sepultura: yes they have that right
2008-01-19 04:10 < Sepultura> good
2008-01-19 04:10 < MidnightCommando> but it's unfortunate that legislation differs so much
2008-01-19 04:10 < LuciferTiger> bumm13: agreed :D its gotta have the most complicated rule set for any game ever
2008-01-19 04:10 < MidnightCommando> it shoudl be legal everywhere
2008-01-19 04:10 < Mike_H> Isn't it still illegal in Tasmania?
2008-01-19 04:10 < LuciferTiger> i dont mind gay marriage as long as both chicks are hot
2008-01-19 04:11 * Mike_H slaps LuciferTiger around a bit with a large trout
2008-01-19 04:11 < arcimboldo_> At least in Cricket you can see that target to be hit.
2008-01-19 04:11 < MidnightCommando> as they say, "i'm comfortable with my sexuality, i just don't need to be whipped i nthe face with theirs" - i don't care if people bugger eachother, just don't invite me to the party ;)
2008-01-19 04:11 < arcimboldo_> In baseball it is some imaginary cube.
2008-01-19 04:11 * LuciferTiger beats Mike_H around with a large bat
2008-01-19 04:11 < Mike_H> I love it when straight men say to me, "I don't care if you're gay, just don't hit on me!"
2008-01-19 04:12 < Mike_H> I tell them that they're kidding themselves by thinking they're attractive to begin with.
2008-01-19 04:12 < OverlordQ> zing
2008-01-19 04:12 < Mike_H> And they kind of laugh and say "Thanks for understanding!" like I'm not going to hit on them because they told me to
2008-01-19 04:12 < Mike_H> and I say "No, I'm not kidding, you're ugly."
2008-01-19 04:12 < LuciferTiger> Mike, lol
2008-01-19 04:12 < Sepultura> MidnightCommando: Is it illegal to say "Arsehole" to a Police Officer?
2008-01-19 04:12 < Mike_H> Then they get offended that I don't find them attractive. Some straight men!
2008-01-19 04:13 < Sepultura> in the USA insults aren't illegal
2008-01-19 04:14 < Luna-San> Mike_H: Heh, serves 'em right for being so insecure.
2008-01-19 04:14 * LuciferTiger wouldnt call a cop an asshole. my asshole could take ponding
2008-01-19 04:14 < Mike_H> It could?
2008-01-19 04:14 < Mike_H> :/
2008-01-19 04:15 < LuciferTiger> as in they could pound it
2008-01-19 04:15 < Sepultura> LuciferTiger: you are US-American`?
2008-01-19 04:15 < LuciferTiger> it wouldnt withstand it
2008-01-19 04:15 < LuciferTiger> lol im from South Carolina
2008-01-19 04:15 < LuciferTiger> but not US American
2008-01-19 04:15 < MidnightCommando> Sepultura: it's not illegal, but the piggies here CAN be forceful if you're already in trouble
2008-01-19 04:15 < LuciferTiger> an Indian living in US
2008-01-19 04:15 < Mike_H> Luna-San: Most straight men usually are insecure about that sort of thing, but it's because men are raised to be "macho men," which gays aren't seen as "real men."
2008-01-19 04:15 < Sepultura> I heard it's not illegal to insult other people in the US
2008-01-19 04:16 * Sepultura wishes freedom for Leonard Peltier
2008-01-19 04:16 < Luna-San> Sepultura: Why on earth would it be? o.o
2008-01-19 04:16 < Mike_H> which is why a lot of gay people don't want to acknowledge those feelings, as they feel it makes them less of a man, or devoid of masculinity completely
2008-01-19 04:16 < Sepultura> Luna-San: In Germany it's illegala
2008-01-19 04:16 < Sepultura> illegal*
2008-01-19 04:16 < Luna-San> Mike_H: Yeah, I've never quite understood that association. Seems stupid.
2008-01-19 04:16 < Sepultura> up to 1 year prison
2008-01-19 04:16 < Luna-San> Really. o.o That seems over the top.
2008-01-19 04:17 < Sepultura> Human dignity is a human right in Germany#
2008-01-19 04:17 < Mike_H> Luna-San: Because women like men and women are feminine. Men who like men can't be masculine, because men like women.
2008-01-19 04:17 < Mike_H> It's one of those "hard-wired" things.
2008-01-19 04:17 < Sepultura> I don't care if you are gay. Live your live in Peace and f... them if they laugh
2008-01-19 04:17 < Sepultura> Brutal Truth - Anti-homophobe
2008-01-19 04:17 < Luna-San> Mike_H: Ah. Maybe I don't get it because I don't so much buy into the masculine/feminine divide, to begin with. I guess that makes some sense, from the perspective of someone who did... though wouldn't half the gay guys still be butch, in that scenario?
2008-01-19 04:18 < Mike_H> Luna-San: Even in the out gay community there's that kind of schism. Most of the really macho gays are in the bear and leather community, and will go as far as to not associate with more effeminate gay men.
2008-01-19 04:18 < Sepultura> life*
2008-01-19 04:19 < Mike_H> Ironically, these macho gays are also women-haters, thus closing off their "inner circle" to anyone that...basically, isn't them.
2008-01-19 04:19 < Luna-San> Hmm. So I wonder if people crave that M/F divide inherently, or because they're socialized to.
2008-01-19 04:20 < Mike_H> I think it's a big part of socialization. Growing up, most children were taught what boys do and what girls do.
2008-01-19 04:20 < Mike_H> Boys played with the GI Joes. Girls played with the Barbies. People noticed when the lines crossed.
2008-01-19 04:20 < Sepultura> gays are misogynists o.O
2008-01-19 04:20 < Sepultura> I don't think so
2008-01-19 04:21 < Sepultura> Boys play with Ego-Shooters :D
2008-01-19 04:22 < Mike_H> I remember when I was like 5 or so, I wanted an Easy Bake oven. Not because I wanted to do what the girls were doing, but because I wanted to bake my own cakes and brownies because, damn it, I LOVE CHOCOLATE
2008-01-19 04:23 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-19 04:23 < Mike_H> I personally was a mix. I wanted to do gymnastics and karate. I liked Barbies and army men. I had friends who were boys and girls.
2008-01-19 04:24 < Mike_H> I didn't gravitate one way or the other. I liked both. It's just, I ended up not liking girls.
2008-01-19 04:24 < Mike_H> But I will go shopping with them!
2008-01-19 04:24 < Sepultura> Feminists are misandrists
2008-01-19 04:25 < Mike_H> I don't believe that.
2008-01-19 04:25 < Mike_H> There are males who are feminists, and they don't have to hate men.
2008-01-19 04:25 < Sepultura> Valerie Solanas
2008-01-19 04:25 < Sepultura> wanted to exterminate all men
2008-01-19 04:25 < Mike_H> One person does not speak for an entire group of people.
2008-01-19 04:26 < Mike_H> As much as Gloria Steinem fashioned herself that way, she did not, and does not, speak for all feminists.
2008-01-19 04:26 < Sepultura> wasn't her book a feminist bestseller?
2008-01-19 04:26 < Mike_H> Sepultura: You're not following me.
2008-01-19 04:26 < Mike_H> Just because one feminist hated men
2008-01-19 04:26 < Mike_H> does not mean all feminists hate men.
2008-01-19 04:26 < Luna-San> "Feminism" is such a vague term, these days. It can mean almost anything.
2008-01-19 04:26 < Mike_H> and vice versa, just because someone hates men, doesn't mean they're a feminist.
2008-01-19 04:27 < Mike_H> Luna-San: Yeah, nowadays women are nearly equal on every plane, so there's not much of a "fight" anymore
2008-01-19 04:27 < Mike_H> because the question becomes, a fight about what?
2008-01-19 04:27 < LuciferTiger> Mike_H, dont u sleep?
2008-01-19 04:27 < Mike_H> Yeah, what business is it of yours?
2008-01-19 04:27 < Luna-San> *nod* There's still plenty to be done, but we're running out of the really obvious fights.
2008-01-19 04:28 < Luna-San> Like, "Hey, can women vote?" or "Hey, can women work?"
2008-01-19 04:28 < Mike_H> Luna-San: The big battle now, in my eyes, is salary parity.
2008-01-19 04:28 < Mike_H> and honestly, I believe the draft should be open to women
2008-01-19 04:28 < Luna-San> *nod*
2008-01-19 04:29 < Mike_H> If women can enlist in the armed services, they should be called for a draft.
2008-01-19 04:29 < SPUI> women should be able to marry
2008-01-19 04:29 < Luna-San> I don't quite follow people who want to outlaw porn because it's inherently "degrading" to women or family values, or something.
2008-01-19 04:29 < Luna-San> SPUI: Lies
2008-01-19 04:29 < Mike_H> Luna-San: Laws based on stringent morals really do get at me, because it's that stigma of "one person trying to speak for everyone"
2008-01-19 04:30 < Mike_H> which is why I'm against the banning of gay marriage, but honestly, I don't know how I feel about granting it
2008-01-19 04:30 < Luna-San> Yeah. I hate any state that has differing consent rules for homo/hetero sex.
2008-01-19 04:30 < Mike_H> It's a very hot-button issue among A LOT of people, and the voters of individual states, more often than not, say no more than yes.
2008-01-19 04:30 < Mike_H> Florida is a battleground for that this year. We're voting statewide on gay marriage.
2008-01-19 04:30 < Mike_H> I honestly expect the vote to turn out for no.
2008-01-19 04:31 < Mike_H> A lot of the traditional liberal voters, like inner-city black people, don't always have a favorable opinion on homosexuality, casting a possible majority for "yes" further into doubt.
2008-01-19 04:32 < Luna-San> California's legislature passed a bill to allow gay marriage, but it was pointed out that it was unconstitutional (the leg. can't amend a referendum without running it past the people again, Cali voters outlawed gay marriage awhile back, bah)
2008-01-19 04:33 < SPUI> has any place actually voted yes for gay marriage rather than the courts forcing the issue?
2008-01-19 04:33 < Mike_H> Honestly, in public opinion polls, we will probably not get the nation to favor it in a majority for another ten years, at the very least
2008-01-19 04:33 < Mike_H> right now we're at 40%
2008-01-19 04:33 < Mike_H> SPUI: Arizona voted yes.
2008-01-19 04:33 < SPUI> ah
2008-01-19 04:33 < Mike_H> and I think some northeastern states
2008-01-19 04:33 < Mike_H> other than that
2008-01-19 04:33 < Mike_H> no.
2008-01-19 04:33 < Luna-San> SPUI: A few states have voted down referendums to outlaw it, if that counts.
2008-01-19 04:33 < SPUI> massachusetts was the courts
2008-01-19 04:33 < SPUI> I think
2008-01-19 04:34 < Luna-San> Yep.
2008-01-19 04:34 < Mike_H> Well, Arizona is the only referendum I remember where the vote was "yes."
2008-01-19 04:34 < Mike_H> All other ones I can think of are "no."
2008-01-19 04:34 < Mike_H> and in Mississippi, why did they even have to put that one to a vote? The "No" people won with like 84%.
2008-01-19 04:34 < OverlordQ> what are you talking about?
2008-01-19 04:34 < Mike_H> Mississippi is perhaps THE most dangerous state in the country to be out and gay.
2008-01-19 04:35 < OverlordQ> marriage ban?
2008-01-19 04:35 < Mike_H> yes
2008-01-19 04:35 < Luna-San> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodridge_v._Department_of_Public_Health <-- Mass case
2008-01-19 04:36 < OverlordQ> kansas voted yes
2008-01-19 04:36 < Mike_H> What?
2008-01-19 04:36 < OverlordQ> same-sex marriage ban
2008-01-19 04:37 < Mike_H> oh, no, I wasn't saying it like that
2008-01-19 04:37 < Mike_H> "Yes" for marriage
2008-01-19 04:37 < Mike_H> "No" for no marriage
2008-01-19 04:37 < OverlordQ> oh
2008-01-19 04:37 < OverlordQ> lol
2008-01-19 04:37 < OverlordQ> well then kansas voted no :)
2008-01-19 04:37 < Mike_H> Arizona:
2008-01-19 04:37 < Mike_H> November 2006: Even well past midnight on election night, the amendment was flipping between a narrow margin for or against. The final outcome of 51% (including absentee ballots) opposing the marriage amendment made Arizona the first state where voters rebuffed a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.[3][4][5]
2008-01-19 04:37 < OverlordQ> 71 to 29%
2008-01-19 04:37 < Mike_H> An already-existing statutory ban was unaffected and remains current state law.[7]
2008-01-19 04:38 < Mike_H> Luna-San: The last statewide opinion poll on same-sex marriage was held in 2004
2008-01-19 04:38 < Mike_H> in Florida
2008-01-19 04:38 < Mike_H> and 65% of those polled said they do not support it.
2008-01-19 04:39 < Luna-San> Opposition tends to be pretty firm, too. =\
2008-01-19 04:39 < Mike_H> However, a majority in Florida do believe gay couples should have the same rights as married straight couples
2008-01-19 04:39 < Mike_H> so Florida may allow civil unions in the future, but not marriage.
2008-01-19 04:39 < Luna-San> That said, we have rights specifically so that we're not subject to the tyranny of the majority. If this has to be solved by litigation, so be it.
2008-01-19 04:40 < Mike_H> and also in Florida, 41% believe that Bush's push for a ban on same-sex marriage is the right thing to do
2008-01-19 04:41 < Luna-San> Eh. Let's segregate the schools again, while we're at it.
2008-01-19 04:41 < Luna-San> Wouldn't want them colored kids touching us.
2008-01-19 04:41 < Mike_H> Luna-San: But whoever brought up that Australia could be as conservative as the US is right
2008-01-19 04:41 < Mike_H> Australia's marriage act specifically states that marriage is for "one man and one woman."
2008-01-19 04:42 < Mike_H> however, Australia also gives the same rights to gay couples as it would to straight couples
2008-01-19 04:42 < Mike_H> so it's a step ahead of us, yet a step behind
2008-01-19 04:42 < Luna-San> Interesting.
2008-01-19 04:43 < Luna-San> I wonder if the best solution may be to move everybody into civil unions.
2008-01-19 04:43 < Luna-San> I love straight people who say gays should be oh-so-happy with civil unions, then get upset and feel wronged at facing that proposition, themselves.
2008-01-19 04:44 < Luna-San> If marriage is truly a religious institution, that's fine, but then government should have no role in it.
2008-01-19 04:44 < Mike_H> Luna-San: It's a hard sell, though, because government has always had a say in marriage.
2008-01-19 04:45 < Mike_H> It's a matter of changing people's minds as to why it should be done away with now. What's different now?
2008-01-19 04:45 < Mike_H> which basically is "they're speaking up now"
2008-01-19 04:46 < Luna-San> Yeah... I'd like to see this fixed in my lifetime.
2008-01-19 04:47 < Mike_H> which it probably will
2008-01-19 04:47 < Mike_H> but I'm 22 now
2008-01-19 04:47 < Mike_H> and I don't see things fully changing before I turn 40.
2008-01-19 04:48 < Luna-San> It'll take a lot of people sitting around a lot of campfires singing feel-good songs. :p
2008-01-19 04:50 < Mike_H> Luna-San: New Jersey was surprising
2008-01-19 04:50 < Mike_H> when they allowed civil unions
2008-01-19 04:50 < Mike_H> the Supreme Court voted on it 4-3
2008-01-19 04:50 < Mike_H> and unlike other votes
2008-01-19 04:50 < Mike_H> The four were for civil unions
2008-01-19 04:50 * bumm13 NP: Fever Tree - San Francisco Girls (Return of the Native) (1968)
2008-01-19 04:50 < Mike_H> and the three weren't against them per se
2008-01-19 04:51 < Mike_H> but that they wanted gays to have marriage (!)
2008-01-19 04:52 < Luna-San> That's purr. Gogo NJ.
2008-01-19 05:01 < bumm13> hmm, for "only" $2499.95 USD, one can have their very own restored 60s-era Vendo brand Cheerwine soda pop machine ;)
2008-01-19 05:02 < Mike_H> A man who allegedly threw a boy off a pedestrian freeway overpass yesterday was occasionally asked to care for the toddler and recently had been sent for psychiatric evaluation, police said.
2008-01-19 05:02 < Mike_H> Matthew M. Higa, a 23-year-old Roosevelt High School graduate, was arrested yesterday in connection with the death of the boy.
2008-01-19 05:03 < bumm13> that's horrible
2008-01-19 05:03 < Luna-San> :x
2008-01-19 05:03 < bumm13> especially after that dude in south Alabama that threw his 4 young kids off an overpass
2008-01-19 05:03 < Luna-San> Four?! Jesus.
2008-01-19 05:03 < bumm13> yes -_-
2008-01-19 05:04 < bumm13> it's insanity
2008-01-19 05:04 < Luna-San> It's amazing the depths people can sink to..
2008-01-19 05:04 < bumm13> yeah :(
2008-01-19 05:05 < The359> when their mind goes, it's believable
2008-01-19 05:06 < Mike_H> bumm13: I added it to the current events portal
2008-01-19 05:06 < Mike_H> Former psychiatric patient Matthew Higa is charged with killing a two-year-old boy by throwing him off a pedestrian walkway and into oncoming traffic on Interstate H-1 in downtown Honolulu, Hawaii. (Honolulu Advertiser)
2008-01-19 05:06 < bumm13> ok
2008-01-19 05:06 < bumm13> ah, in Hawaii
2008-01-19 05:07 < Starnestommy> why does Hawii even have an interstate system?
2008-01-19 05:08 < Starnestommy> *Hawaii
2008-01-19 05:08 < Luna-San> To connect to all those other states, of course.
2008-01-19 05:08 < Luna-San> Maybe all federally funded highways are called "interstate" by default?
2008-01-19 05:08 < bumm13> if they meet interstate standards, yes
2008-01-19 05:09 < bumm13> it was never about the need to cross into other states
2008-01-19 05:09 < bumm13> (most 3-digit Interstate routes don't)
2008-01-19 05:09 < bumm13> it does sound funny, though :)
2008-01-19 05:10 < bumm13> Hawaii has four Interstate routes (all on Oahu)
2008-01-19 05:10 < bumm13> H-1, H-2, H-3 and H-201
2008-01-19 05:11 < The359> they couldn't call it H-4?
2008-01-19 05:11 < Luna-San> You know one thing I hate about LA? They give their freeways numbers *and* names and neglect to post both all over the place -- whichever one your directions and maps use, the signs will use the opposite.
2008-01-19 05:11 < bumm13> The359: it's a loop of H-1
2008-01-19 05:11 < The359> their other highways aren't loops?
2008-01-19 05:11 < bumm13> Luna-San: yeah, fun stuff
2008-01-19 05:12 < bumm13> nope
2008-01-19 05:12 < The359> Can't be much of a highway if they just go straight across
2008-01-19 05:12 < bumm13> straight across?
2008-01-19 05:12 < The359> One side of the island to the other
2008-01-19 05:14 * ronabop ponders the possible links between naming, and tossing toddlers into roadways
2008-01-19 05:14 < bumm13> The359: Oahu isn't exactly flat
2008-01-19 05:14 < Rinn> You're still on names and toddler-tossing?
2008-01-19 05:15 * ronabop was reading past an average USian attention span, and apologizes
2008-01-19 05:18 < Mike_H> I just had to clarify it
2008-01-19 05:18 < ronabop> Insterstaes were a WPA style project.... without the WPA. It was a shift from "publicly managed" to "privately managed" infrastructure.
2008-01-19 05:18 < bumm13> Interstate H-3 winds through the Ko'olau Range
2008-01-19 05:18 < Mike_H> it's a pedestrian overpass
2008-01-19 05:18 < Mike_H> so it's not like a sidewalk
2008-01-19 05:18 < Mike_H> it's the passes that go over highways
2008-01-19 05:18 < bumm13> right
2008-01-19 05:19 < Mike_H> so he threw the baby off that, he plunged 30 feet to the ground into oncoming traffic, and two cars hit the baby
2008-01-19 05:19 * ronabop outlaws infants
2008-01-19 05:19 < ronabop> That should fix it.
2008-01-19 05:20 < ronabop> Ohh, even better...
2008-01-19 05:20 * ronabop outlaws being crazy
2008-01-19 05:20 < SPUI> outlaw feet
2008-01-19 05:21 < SPUI> that'll do it
2008-01-19 05:21 < SPUI> switch to metric
2008-01-19 05:22 * ronabop sets up tests to gauge damage in dropping infants in metric vs. US english measurements
2008-01-19 05:22 < bumm13> Mike_H: :(
2008-01-19 05:22 < SPUI> Luna-San - about names and numbers, for a while federally funded signs were prohibited from using freeway names
2008-01-19 05:22 < SPUI> they've since removed the stick from their ass
2008-01-19 05:22 < Luna-San> Huh
2008-01-19 05:23 < Mike_H> bumm13: I'm kind of weirded out that there is no article about the baby being thrown from the overpass
2008-01-19 05:23 < Mike_H> yet on Wikinews
2008-01-19 05:23 < Luna-San> I think I prefer numbers, but eh. As long as it's consistent.
2008-01-19 05:23 < Mike_H> there is an article about Zac Efron's appendicitis.
2008-01-19 05:23 < bumm13> :P
2008-01-19 05:23 < SPUI> numbers should always be posted, except on wicked old signs
2008-01-19 05:24 < ronabop> Mike_H: infant-tossing's kind of overly busy in the US right now.
2008-01-19 05:24 < Luna-San> I'm happy numbered exit signs have spread in Cali, too.
2008-01-19 05:24 * ronabop ponders what a normal level would be
2008-01-19 05:25 < bumm13> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080119/ap_on_he_me/drug_trinket_roundup_2
2008-01-19 05:25 < bumm13> "MINNEAPOLIS - When a Duluth-based operator of hospitals and clinics purged the pens, notepads, coffee mugs and other promotional trinkets drug companies had given its doctors over the years, it took 20 shopping carts to haul the loot away."
2008-01-19 05:26 < bumm13> :x
2008-01-19 05:26 < Luna-San> This begs the question of why a hospital is stealing shopping carts!
2008-01-19 05:26 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-19 05:26 < bumm13> homeless ER patients probably brought them in ;)
2008-01-19 05:26 < ronabop> Last time I drove through SoCal, I could get a name, a nickname, a numeric ID, and none of them were right.
2008-01-19 05:27 < ronabop> bumm13: some of that is my fault. personally.
2008-01-19 05:28 < ronabop> My day job: http://www.promopeddler.com/
2008-01-19 05:28 < NilsE> Wow. I didn't know India had so many people in it. Almost as many as China, despite being much smaller in area. Is India the most densively populated country on Earth?
2008-01-19 05:29 < ronabop> Yes.
2008-01-19 05:29 < bumm13> no, Bangladesh is though
2008-01-19 05:29 < bumm13> but yeah, India is densely populated
2008-01-19 05:29 < ronabop> Who has more density?
2008-01-19 05:29 < bumm13> Bangladesh
2008-01-19 05:30 < bumm13> but it's much smaller in area
2008-01-19 05:30 < ronabop> When did they become a country?
2008-01-19 05:30 < bumm13> 1970s
2008-01-19 05:30 * ronabop feels old
2008-01-19 05:30 < NilsE> A so-called newbie country.
2008-01-19 05:31 < ronabop> n00b!
2008-01-19 05:31 < bumm13> lots of "new" countries emerged in the 1970s
2008-01-19 05:31 < bumm13> (a lot of former African colonies, etc.)
2008-01-19 05:32 < bumm13> Bangladesh separated from Pakistan with the help of India
2008-01-19 05:33 < NilsE> Seen lots of scary photos/videos of Indian busses, cars and trains completely packed with people.
2008-01-19 05:33 < NilsE> People sitting on the roof and leaning out.
2008-01-19 05:34 < The359> They sell tickets like that