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2008-01-16 23:29 * Rinn gets a concussion and dies
2008-01-16 23:29 < bumm13> *1966
2008-01-16 23:30 * ryannnnnnnnnnn cuddles bluefoxicy
2008-01-16 23:30 * Rinn Super Mario Galaxy - Gusty Garden Galaxy
2008-01-16 23:30 < Kannie> You don't die from a concussion. You can die from a more severe head injury, though.
2008-01-16 23:30 < Mike_H> The designers arrive in New York and are asked to create a garment that best reflects who they are as a designer. They are given 10 minutes to grab from $50,000 worth of fabric in three tents set up in Bryant Park. The designers are randomly assigned models.
2008-01-16 23:30 < Mike_H> * Judges: Heidi Klum, Nina Garcia, Michael Kors
2008-01-16 23:30 < Mike_H> That Michael Kors is the gayest thing to come out of gayland.
2008-01-16 23:30 < Rinn> Well, I just did, so there.
2008-01-16 23:31 < Mike_H> bad timing, Rinn
2008-01-16 23:31 < OverlordQ> lol
2008-01-16 23:31 * Mike_H puts those two lines on m:bash
2008-01-16 23:31 < Demi> i have one shoe
2008-01-16 23:32 < Demi> i wonder where the other shoe is?
2008-01-16 23:32 < Kannie> Rinn, I didn't know corpses typed :P
2008-01-16 23:32 < bumm13> Mike_H: I found the perfect oddball gift for you ;)
2008-01-16 23:32 < Rinn> I have fungi assistants.
2008-01-16 23:32 < Mike_H> oh?
2008-01-16 23:32 < Kannie> Demi:On your foot? Near your feet?
2008-01-16 23:32 < bumm13> (on ebay)
2008-01-16 23:32 < bumm13> a TaB wall clock :D
2008-01-16 23:32 < Mike_H> ew
2008-01-16 23:32 < bumm13> heehee
2008-01-16 23:32 < Demi> Kannie - in my closet
2008-01-16 23:32 < Mike_H> who am I, Marcia Brady?
2008-01-16 23:33 < bumm13> I didn't know such things existed :o
2008-01-16 23:33 < Kannie> Demi:The most obvious place you can think of?
2008-01-16 23:33 < bumm13> its mid/late 60s vintage
2008-01-16 23:33 < bumm13> *it's
2008-01-16 23:34 < bumm13> the logo is magenta and light orange
2008-01-16 23:34 < Demi> Kannie - i can't find it in this room
2008-01-16 23:34 < bumm13> howdy Demi
2008-01-16 23:34 < Kannie> Demi:Get up and go to your closet!
2008-01-16 23:35 < ryannnnnnnnnnn> bumm13: am I the only one who is redirected to -overflow all the time?
2008-01-16 23:35 < Demi> i have two pairs of boots, two pairs of dress shoes, a pair of tevas, and one tennis shoe
2008-01-16 23:35 < ryannnnnnnnnnn> it happens like 1/3 of the time -_-
2008-01-16 23:35 < Demi> Kannie - that's where i found the first shoe
2008-01-16 23:35 < Rinn> Mario Paint Wii. Why is there no Mario Paint Wii?
2008-01-16 23:35 < bumm13> get rid of some of those shoes, Imelda :P
2008-01-16 23:35 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-01-16 23:35 < Leslie_S> Compared to the valves, the transistor have a lot of advantages: they have a smaller making price and a ten bigger times speed, passing from the position 1 to 0 in a few millionth of second.
2008-01-16 23:36 < Leslie_S> making price? LOL
2008-01-16 23:36 < bumm13> Rinn: is there a Wii mouse? ;)
2008-01-16 23:36 < Demi> i have two other pairs of actual shoes, but they are awaiting dogshit removal, and i couldn't find my scrub brush either
2008-01-16 23:36 < bumm13> aww
2008-01-16 23:37 < Demi> i'm trying to get together my bag for working out tomorrow
2008-01-16 23:37 < Rinn> You could probably rig something up with the Wiimote.
2008-01-16 23:37 < bumm13> simple paint-type programs are mainly kids' stuff
2008-01-16 23:38 < bumm13> the SNES was based around the WDC 65C816 CPU
2008-01-16 23:38 < Demi> "[20:44:17] Demi: i'm trying to get together my bag for working out tomorrow" // "[20:44:24] Rinn: You could probably rig something up with the Wiimote." <- that's not too bad for bash either
2008-01-16 23:38 < bumm13> (which the Apple IIGS also used)
2008-01-16 23:38 < bumm13> yay 16-bitness!
2008-01-16 23:38 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> That Michael Kors is the gayest thing to come out of gayland.
2008-01-16 23:38 < Mike_H> <Rinn> Well, I just did, so there.
2008-01-16 23:38 < Mike_H> that wins every time.
2008-01-16 23:38 < Mike_H> sorry, Demi.
2008-01-16 23:38 < Rinn> I'm full of entertainment today!
2008-01-16 23:38 * gentgeen is alive
2008-01-16 23:39 < bumm13> hiya gentgeen
2008-01-16 23:39 < gentgeen> hey bumm
2008-01-16 23:39 * Mike_H pets gentgeen
2008-01-16 23:39 < Demi> i didn't know there was a competition
2008-01-16 23:39 < Mike_H> but only if you don't have scabies
2008-01-16 23:39 * gentgeen had jury duty, spent four hours in a courtroom doing nothing
2008-01-16 23:39 < bumm13> :( :( :(
2008-01-16 23:40 < gentgeen> Mike, shingles is only bad for other people if they've never had chicken pox
2008-01-16 23:40 < Mike_H> gentgeen: Oh, shingles
2008-01-16 23:40 < Mike_H> not scabies
2008-01-16 23:40 * gentgeen should delete his pic, so he's no longer the poster boy for a disease
2008-01-16 23:40 < Leslie_S> i have shingles!
2008-01-16 23:40 < Leslie_S> on my roof!
2008-01-16 23:41 < Mike_H> there there.
2008-01-16 23:41 < Leslie_S> heck, i have 4 roofs with shingles on our property.
2008-01-16 23:41 < Leslie_S> should i do something about that so i dont catch the shingles? :o
2008-01-16 23:41 < gentgeen> wood shingles are a fire hazard
2008-01-16 23:41 < Mike_H> Leslie_S: Yes.
2008-01-16 23:41 < Mike_H> Get scabies.
2008-01-16 23:41 < Leslie_S> gentgeen, they're not wood.
2008-01-16 23:41 < Demi> one pair of the dress shoes are by prada, even
2008-01-16 23:42 < gentgeen> ahh, that's good
2008-01-16 23:42 < Leslie_S> Mike_H lol
2008-01-16 23:42 < spammer25> im a spammer!
2008-01-16 23:42 * gentgeen goes looking for beer news
2008-01-16 23:42 < spammer25> spam spam spam
2008-01-16 23:42 * Mike_H pets spammer25
2008-01-16 23:42 < bumm13> someone's bored this evening....
2008-01-16 23:42 < Demi> that's not got much spam
2008-01-16 23:42 < spammer25> this channel is way more active than #wikipedia-en
2008-01-16 23:43 < spammer25> spammer gives thumbs up
2008-01-16 23:43 < Mike_H> that's because the people on #wikipedia-en are boring
2008-01-16 23:43 < quanticle> spammer25: Not much of a spammer are you?
2008-01-16 23:43 < gentgeen> somehow, I ended up adopting [[Portal:Beer]], which is odd, as I don't drink beer
2008-01-16 23:43 < quanticle> gentgeen: Prefer harder liquors?
2008-01-16 23:43 < spammer25> quanticle: i once was, but then i was banned.... so i prefer just to follow the rules now
2008-01-16 23:43 < gentgeen> quanticle, yes. Beer is simply a step on the road to drinkable stuff
2008-01-16 23:44 < Demi> pshaw
2008-01-16 23:44 < Leslie_S> i hate beer
2008-01-16 23:44 < quanticle> spammer25: Good spammer.
2008-01-16 23:44 < Leslie_S> i dont see how people can drink that stuff
2008-01-16 23:44 < quanticle> Leslie_
2008-01-16 23:44 < quanticle> S
2008-01-16 23:44 < quanticle> What, beer?
2008-01-16 23:44 < Leslie_S> yes.
2008-01-16 23:44 < Krimpet> thankfully, liquor before beer leaves you in the clear, since you need to be drunk enough to not mind the awful taste of it
2008-01-16 23:44 < Leslie_S> it tastes like piss
2008-01-16 23:44 < gentgeen> the beer should then be distilled twice, then put in a used oak barrel to age for a decade or three somewhere in the Scottish Highlands
2008-01-16 23:45 < Demi> Leslie_S - you're drinking the wrong beer, then
2008-01-16 23:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Only if you're drinking crappy beer
2008-01-16 23:45 < Leslie_S> meh
2008-01-16 23:45 < Leslie_S> i havent really given it a fair chance maybe
2008-01-16 23:45 < Demi> you should look carefully and make sure you're not actually drinking piss
2008-01-16 23:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Are you drinking Miller Lite, by any chance
2008-01-16 23:45 < Leslie_S> the last time i drank beer i was 5
2008-01-16 23:45 < Leslie_S> and i grabbed the wrong cup
2008-01-16 23:45 < gentgeen> unless, however, the beer was made by a Trappist monk somewhere in the Low Countries. Then it's ok as is
2008-01-16 23:45 < Demi> don't even bother with big brewery beers
2008-01-16 23:45 < quanticle> Demi: Or Miller Lite, which, by all standards, is the same thing
2008-01-16 23:45 < Leslie_S> (why the hell was my dad drinking out of a sippy cur?)
2008-01-16 23:45 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Your dad was too drunk to care
2008-01-16 23:46 < Demi> Leslie_S - dishes, probably
2008-01-16 23:46 < Demi> that's why i drink liquor out of sippy cups, anyway
2008-01-16 23:46 < Leslie_S> Demi beer comes in bottles or cans normally.
2008-01-16 23:46 < Leslie_S> Demi its not like he bought a keg.
2008-01-16 23:46 < Leslie_S> if its in a bottle or can, no dishes required...
2008-01-16 23:46 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Some people like to drink out of a cup
2008-01-16 23:46 < Demi> Leslie_S - yes, but only an animal drinks beer from a can or bottle!
2008-01-16 23:46 < spammer25> i just posted a log
2008-01-16 23:46 < Demi> that is *not* proper
2008-01-16 23:46 < spammer25> from this chatroom
2008-01-16 23:46 < Leslie_S> Demi: i do that with my alcopops
2008-01-16 23:46 < spammer25> see here: http://www.pastey.net/80792-2idn
2008-01-16 23:46 < Leslie_S> Demi i dont see what the big deal is.
2008-01-16 23:47 < quanticle> Demi: From a can, perhaps, but drinking from a bottle is civilized.
2008-01-16 23:47 < gentgeen> Demi, you just need to have a bottle conditioned Trappist trible
2008-01-16 23:47 < Demi> you need to snobbily decant your beer into a proper pint glass, preferably emblazoned with the logo of a football club or rock band
2008-01-16 23:47 < logger25> i like logging!
2008-01-16 23:47 < Leslie_S> Demi meh, i dont drink beer.
2008-01-16 23:47 < logger25> im a logger!
2008-01-16 23:47 < Demi> quanticle - it doesn't warm up fast enough
2008-01-16 23:47 < logger25> #wikipedia shall be made public!!!!
2008-01-16 23:47 < quanticle> Demi: Are you British by any chance?
2008-01-16 23:47 < Demi> quanticle - no
2008-01-16 23:47 < logger25> log log log!: http://www.pastey.net/80792-2idn
2008-01-16 23:47 < quanticle> logger25: Information wants to be free!
2008-01-16 23:48 < spammer25> damn
2008-01-16 23:48 < Leslie_S> Demi, the least flavored thing ive actually tried on my own was a margarita
2008-01-16 23:48 < Leslie_S> Demi which was damn good.
2008-01-16 23:48 < quanticle> Demi: Oh, just asking because people of the British persuasion tend to prefer their ale warm
2008-01-16 23:48 < Demi> Leslie_S - a good margarita is a nice thing
2008-01-16 23:48 < spammer25> http://www.pastey.net/80792-2idn
2008-01-16 23:48 < Leslie_S> Demi it was the slushy kind. and it was margarita monday.
2008-01-16 23:48 < Krimpet> i think my taste for beer was completely ruined due to the fact that the beer of choice on my campus is Keystone Light.
2008-01-16 23:48 < spammer25> http://www.pastey.net/80792-2idn
2008-01-16 23:48 < Leslie_S> :)
2008-01-16 23:48 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Have you tried a martini?
2008-01-16 23:49 < Leslie_S> quanticle i tried an appletini
2008-01-16 23:49 < gravisan> hi
2008-01-16 23:49 < Demi> anyway, i used to think i hated beer, too
2008-01-16 23:49 * gentgeen likes vodka martinis
2008-01-16 23:49 < gravisan> does anyone know how to download wiki images?
2008-01-16 23:49 < gentgeen> right click
2008-01-16 23:50 < quanticle> Leslie_S: What's an appletini? Is is apple juice + gin?
2008-01-16 23:50 < gravisan> I am trying to parse raw wiki and obtain a url that I can then pass to urllib or wget
2008-01-16 23:50 < Demi> it turns out that i just hate rice-syrup-produced big brewery beer, and cascade hops (which is really common in more well-known alternative beers)
2008-01-16 23:50 < gravisan> gentgeen: i would but it is automated
2008-01-16 23:50 * Mike_H walks down the runway
2008-01-16 23:50 < Mike_H> fierce.
2008-01-16 23:50 < Leslie_S> quanticle i think so
2008-01-16 23:50 < Demi> guinness was the first beer i didn't hate, it was a revelation (though it's not my favorite)
2008-01-16 23:50 < Leslie_S> ok demi. :o
2008-01-16 23:50 < Leslie_S> anyway, im going to bed.
2008-01-16 23:50 < Leslie_S> night
2008-01-16 23:50 < quanticle> Leslie_S: As opposed to apple juice + vodka, which would also be considered an appletini
2008-01-16 23:50 < gentgeen> ick, I can't stand Guinness
2008-01-16 23:50 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Bye
2008-01-16 23:50 < Demi> quanticle - apple liqueur, maybe
2008-01-16 23:51 < spammer25> !admin why am i banned from #wikipedia-en?
2008-01-16 23:51 < quanticle> gentgeen: Do you also dislike IPAs
2008-01-16 23:51 < Leslie_S> Demi uhm, apple liquer and vodka would be....awfully strong...
2008-01-16 23:51 < gravisan> where do image:file.jpg end up on the server ?
2008-01-16 23:51 < bumm13> spammer25: because you spam?
2008-01-16 23:51 < gentgeen> the only beers I like are brown ales and trappists
2008-01-16 23:51 < gravisan> is there a way to determine the url without screen scraping
2008-01-16 23:51 < quanticle> Demi: Yeah, it was most likely apple juice or nonalcoholic cider
2008-01-16 23:51 < Krimpet> (he was flooding -en. c.c)
2008-01-16 23:51 < gravisan> (from just wikitext) ?
2008-01-16 23:51 < bumm13> ick
2008-01-16 23:51 < Leslie_S> gravisan just right click it
2008-01-16 23:52 < gravisan> er...its going to be from a python script
2008-01-16 23:52 < gravisan> I would like to download a picture of a person when someone types in thier name
2008-01-16 23:52 < Demi> "The appletini, also known as the apple martini, is a cocktail containing vodka and either apple juice, apple cider, or apple liqueur."
2008-01-16 23:52 < bumm13> (while searching Google) link: "Mexican food and Mexican recipes at MexGrocer.com (30D) / Satyr ..."
2008-01-16 23:52 < Demi> i think apple juice would be watery
2008-01-16 23:52 < bumm13> text: "CLICK HERE VISIT NOW < <. $19.95 Mexican Soda Pop and other Mexican Beverages"
2008-01-16 23:52 < Leslie_S> Demi meh.
2008-01-16 23:52 < quanticle> Demi: Apple liqueur + vodka would be pretty strong
2008-01-16 23:52 < bumm13> next line:
2008-01-16 23:52 < bumm13> "premature ejactulation."
2008-01-16 23:52 < bumm13> :X
2008-01-16 23:53 < gentgeen> bumm, mexican soda is made with sugar instead of corn syrup. there is a market for it
2008-01-16 23:53 < quanticle> bumm13: Are you transcribing from your spam bin?
2008-01-16 23:53 < bumm13> (it links to South Africa/.za)
2008-01-16 23:53 < Leslie_S> gentgeen so is pop anywhere but the US.
2008-01-16 23:53 < bumm13> quanticle: no, just sharing my fun ;)
2008-01-16 23:53 < quanticle> Leslie_S: True. Pop in India tastes better for that very reason.
2008-01-16 23:53 < Demi> quanticle - a regular martini is all liquor, i don't see the difference
2008-01-16 23:53 < gentgeen> yes, but in the US, the easiest soda to get with sugar is Mexican (NAFTA and all)
2008-01-16 23:53 < Leslie_S> quanticle and canada.
2008-01-16 23:53 < bumm13> that's true
2008-01-16 23:54 < quanticle> Demi: Hmmm, I guess you're correct...
2008-01-16 23:54 < Leslie_S> quanticle theres also jones soda, which is pop made with sugar, and damn good.
2008-01-16 23:54 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Blame the US sugar lobby
2008-01-16 23:54 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Jones is expensive
2008-01-16 23:54 < bumm13> American soda pop is the dumping ground of corn syrup by ADM ;)
2008-01-16 23:54 < Leslie_S> quanticle not really. its about the same price except it doesnt come in 2 liters...
2008-01-16 23:54 < tonsofpcs> eww, he called it "pop"
2008-01-16 23:54 < quanticle> Leslie_S: I can't find any retailers willing to carry it for a reasonable price where I live
2008-01-16 23:54 < Leslie_S> ....
2008-01-16 23:54 < Demi> i like irn-bru
2008-01-16 23:54 < gentgeen> of course, as a diabetic, I get my soda with sucralose, ace-k, or aspertime
2008-01-16 23:54 < Leslie_S> who the hell cares what i call it
2008-01-16 23:54 < bumm13> tonsofpcs: move to a real state ;)
2008-01-16 23:54 < Krimpet> personally I can't stand anything carbonated, soda or whatever. I just don't understand how people _like_ it :P
2008-01-16 23:54 < Leslie_S> gentgeen gross.
2008-01-16 23:54 < tonsofpcs> bumm13 - yea, but they call it soda there too ;)
2008-01-16 23:54 < bumm13> gentgeen - :(
2008-01-16 23:55 < tonsofpcs> and it's only a 4 mile move
2008-01-16 23:55 < Krimpet> sweet tea, on the other hand. :)
2008-01-16 23:55 < bumm13> which one(s)?
2008-01-16 23:55 < quanticle> Leslie_S: The only places to get Jones around here are specialty "upscale" stores that mark everything up
2008-01-16 23:55 < Leslie_S> ew, tea.
2008-01-16 23:55 < quanticle> Tea is good
2008-01-16 23:55 < gentgeen> Target carries Jones Soda
2008-01-16 23:55 < quanticle> Not as good as coffee though
2008-01-16 23:55 * Demi gives krimpet some bubble tea
2008-01-16 23:55 < bumm13> Jones is sold in grocery stores and convenience stores here
2008-01-16 23:55 < Leslie_S> quanticle ican get it at school vending machines or the school book store for average price
2008-01-16 23:55 < gentgeen> I'd hardly call that "upscale"
2008-01-16 23:55 < Leslie_S> quanticle and i can get it at walmart
2008-01-16 23:55 < bumm13> I've never had it, though
2008-01-16 23:55 < quanticle> Leslie_S: I didn't know Walmart carried Jones
2008-01-16 23:55 < quanticle> Leslie_
2008-01-16 23:56 < quanticle> S
2008-01-16 23:56 < Leslie_S> quanticle, also, all stores mark everything up. this is how they make money.
2008-01-16 23:56 < tonsofpcs> what should be done with an article that seems to need what it describes described, but everything currently described there is wrong and I don't feel comfortable fixing it???
2008-01-16 23:56 < gentgeen> delete hammer
2008-01-16 23:56 < bumm13> ???
2008-01-16 23:56 < Krimpet> target is semi-upscale, IMO - it's like the yuppier Wal-Mart
2008-01-16 23:56 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Right, but "upscale" stores mark things up more, to perputuate their image
2008-01-16 23:56 < Demi> do we have {{cleanup-rewrite}} anymore?
2008-01-16 23:56 * gentgeen NP: Monty Python: Medical Love Song
2008-01-16 23:56 < tonsofpcs> gentgeen - you want to hammer it?
2008-01-16 23:56 < Demi> target is a widespread gemco
2008-01-16 23:56 < Leslie_S> Target is sad.
2008-01-16 23:56 < tonsofpcs> Demi - its bad enough that every second it is up there, it is hurting peoples brains
2008-01-16 23:56 < quanticle> gentgeen: I'm programming in Python right now
2008-01-16 23:56 < bumm13> I rarely go to Target
2008-01-16 23:56 < Leslie_S> Are all targets ridiculously tiny?
2008-01-16 23:57 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Why's Target sad?
2008-01-16 23:57 < Demi> apparently i've spent $70 on eBay in the past couple days
2008-01-16 23:57 < bumm13> heh, nice
2008-01-16 23:57 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Its no sadder than any other big box retailer
2008-01-16 23:57 * bumm13 <3 ebay
2008-01-16 23:57 < Leslie_S> quanticle because i work at a super walmart, and about a mile down the road is a target, which is...about 1/8 the size of walmart.
2008-01-16 23:57 < Krimpet> K-mart is probably the saddest store of its class
2008-01-16 23:57 < bumm13> definitely
2008-01-16 23:57 < Leslie_S> quanticle i think that that target was built before my walmart was super. but even before the expansion, it was really tiny compared to the walmart.
2008-01-16 23:58 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Where I live, there's a Super-Target and a Super-Walmart sitting across the street from one another
2008-01-16 23:58 < Demi> K-mart enjoyed a brief resurgence with the Martha Stewart stuff
2008-01-16 23:58 < Leslie_S> theres also a meijer across the street from walmart
2008-01-16 23:58 < Demi> the closest Wal-Mart here is very sad compared to the Target
2008-01-16 23:58 < bumm13> Kmart has too many organizational problems now
2008-01-16 23:58 < Leslie_S> ......why would you try to compete with stores that obviously have a way better selection, at such a short distance?
2008-01-16 23:58 < Demi> in fact it's sad compared to the Bi-Mart
2008-01-16 23:58 < tonsofpcs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_%28logic%29 is the article if anyone wants to fix it
2008-01-16 23:58 < bumm13> (plus a "ghetto" reputation)
2008-01-16 23:58 < Leslie_S> I'm looking forward to going to gay mart.
2008-01-16 23:58 < bumm13> Demi: wow
2008-01-16 23:59 < Demi> bumm13 - it's of an older generation, i think
2008-01-16 23:59 < quanticle> Leslie_S: As opposed to straight mart?
2008-01-16 23:59 < bumm13> I have my green store card in my wallet
2008-01-16 23:59 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-01-16 23:59 < Krimpet> yeah, K-mart has a low-class reputation, but its prices aren't as low as wal-mart, so it's the worst of both worlds
2008-01-16 23:59 < Leslie_S> quanticle theres an actual GAYMART in chicago.
2008-01-16 23:59 < bumm13> I feel so "membershippy"
2008-01-16 23:59 < quanticle> bumm13: What's a green store?
2008-01-16 23:59 < Demi> if you take a Wal-Mart and a Target of equal sizes, and then you take out of them all the stuff i would never in a million years buy, there would be way more stuff left in the Target
2008-01-16 23:59 < bumm13> nothing, just a color of the card
2008-01-16 23:59 < bumm13> for a regional chain called Bi-Mart
2008-01-16 23:59 < Leslie_S> quanticle i was gonna go when i went to gaypride with my "friend", but shes no longer a "friend". i dunno if i'll even go to pride now.
2008-01-16 23:59 < Demi> bumm13 - the spouse card is yellow! because we need to distinguish, i guess :)
2008-01-17 00:00 < Leslie_S> Demi there would probably be nothing left in walmart.
2008-01-17 00:00 < bumm13> Demi: you don't like Sam's Choice????!?!
2008-01-17 00:00 < NotACow> boop
2008-01-17 00:00 < quanticle> Demi: Heh, true, but both stores'd be pretty empty
2008-01-17 00:00 < NotACow> benign is a good word
2008-01-17 00:00 < Leslie_S> Demi we sell HANNAH MONTANA PANTIE AND BRA SETS.
2008-01-17 00:00 < Leslie_S> i mean, god.
2008-01-17 00:00 < NotACow> Leslie_S: gaymart rocks
2008-01-17 00:00 < Demi> Leslie_S - not nothing, just not as much as the other
2008-01-17 00:00 < Leslie_S> NotACow heh.
2008-01-17 00:00 < Krimpet> Leslie_S, I hope they come in my size
2008-01-17 00:00 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Walmart?
2008-01-17 00:00 < Leslie_S> yes quanticle
2008-01-17 00:00 * NotACow was there last summer with one of the few wikipedians she's met not at wikimania
2008-01-17 00:00 < bumm13> but, but....censored CDs are teh kewlest
2008-01-17 00:00 < Leslie_S> NotACow im not gonna go to pride though unless i have someone to go with. :(
2008-01-17 00:00 < Demi> it would have more home improvement stuff, though, and basically that's why i ever go to wal-mart; because they're the only place to buy some of those things "after hours"
2008-01-17 00:01 < Demi> that is, after 9
2008-01-17 00:01 < NotACow> i went to pride in 2002
2008-01-17 00:01 < Leslie_S> NotACow the friend i was going with is apparently a stupid bitch who i never want to see again.
2008-01-17 00:01 < quanticle> Demi: You don't have a Home Depot where you're at?
2008-01-17 00:01 < Demi> quanticle - we do, though that's pretty recent
2008-01-17 00:01 < Krimpet> that's probably the best thing about the wal-mart around here: open 24 hours
2008-01-17 00:01 * gentgeen feels like the man in this conversation. Old, white, straight. I should be suppressing someone.'s rights
2008-01-17 00:02 < Leslie_S> Krimpet ours is one of the very few 16ish hour walmarts. :(
2008-01-17 00:02 < Leslie_S> Krimpet heh
2008-01-17 00:02 < quanticle> Help! Help! I'm being oppressed by gentgeen!
2008-01-17 00:02 < Leslie_S> 6a=12m
2008-01-17 00:02 < Leslie_S> 18 hours i guess
2008-01-17 00:02 < Demi> our wal-mart closes at 11 i think
2008-01-17 00:03 < quanticle> Demi: 11, or 1?
2008-01-17 00:03 < bumm13> same here
2008-01-17 00:03 < Leslie_S> Demi thats odd. heh.
2008-01-17 00:03 < Demi> quanticle - i think 11
2008-01-17 00:03 < Leslie_S> the GM door gets locked at 10 at our walmart
2008-01-17 00:03 < bumm13> the store in my hometown is 24 hr. / Supercenter
2008-01-17 00:03 < Leslie_S> which doesnt really make sense to me for a store that is open til 12m
2008-01-17 00:03 < quanticle> Demi: Our Walmart closed at 1 before it went 24/7
2008-01-17 00:03 < Krimpet> Leslie_S: I know in Philly, the few wal-marts in and around the city and suburbs aren't 24-hour
2008-01-17 00:03 < Leslie_S> Krimpet most super walmarts ARE 24 hour though
2008-01-17 00:03 < Leslie_S> Krimpet non-24 hour ones usually are not super
2008-01-17 00:04 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Is your store a super-walmart?
2008-01-17 00:04 < Leslie_S> quanticle, i already said it is.
2008-01-17 00:04 < Demi> quanticle - and the home depot closes by 9 anyway
2008-01-17 00:04 < gentgeen> the only 24 hr wal-mart I know of is a 2 1/2 hour drive from here
2008-01-17 00:04 < quanticle> Leslie_S: True, our Walmart went 24 hours when it converted to SuperWalmart
2008-01-17 00:04 < Krimpet> when I tried to get my Wii last year when I was home for christmas break, I ended up having to drive ~50 miles to the nearest 24-hour wal-mart. :p
2008-01-17 00:04 < Leslie_S> quanticle its one of the ones that has EVERYTHING in it.
2008-01-17 00:05 < Krimpet> Leslie_S: do all super wal-marts have auto-checkout?
2008-01-17 00:05 < Leslie_S> quanticle tire and lube express, pharmacy, optical, salon, subway (as in food), deli, bakery, grocery
2008-01-17 00:05 < Demi> when i wanted a wii, i walked into fred meyer and bought one off the shelf
2008-01-17 00:05 < Leslie_S> Krimpet i dont know. i havent been to all super walmarts.
2008-01-17 00:05 < FrikkinLazer> Good morning! (If its morning!)
2008-01-17 00:05 < tonsofpcs> it is
2008-01-17 00:05 < tonsofpcs> it is
2008-01-17 00:05 < gentgeen> I used to make runs down to it, oh, ten years ago, when I needed more sporting clays
2008-01-17 00:05 < tonsofpcs> [well, here at least]
2008-01-17 00:05 < quanticle> Every time I say SuperWalmart or SuperTarget, I have a vision of two golden haired heroes, one in a blue costume and one in red, battling to the death
2008-01-17 00:05 < Krimpet> well, most?
2008-01-17 00:05 < Leslie_S> Krimpet i havent really been to any other walmarts since the u-scan retardation
2008-01-17 00:06 < Leslie_S> Krimpet theyre talking about ripping the uscans out at our walmart.
2008-01-17 00:06 * quanticle has seen too much DBZ for his own good
2008-01-17 00:06 < FrikkinLazer> u-scan?
2008-01-17 00:06 < tonsofpcs> if i wanted a wii, I could have gotten one at school without waiting
2008-01-17 00:06 < FrikkinLazer> Whats that?
2008-01-17 00:06 < Krimpet> aww, I do like those for when I make embarrasing purchases. :(
2008-01-17 00:06 * gentgeen used to spend his summers as a shooting instructor (NRA certified even)
2008-01-17 00:06 < tonsofpcs> although there were 3 people who waited all night... for the 6 of them....
2008-01-17 00:06 < quanticle> FrikkinLazer: The scan-it-yourself machines
2008-01-17 00:06 < Leslie_S> u-scan is for thiefs
2008-01-17 00:06 < Demi> actually the wal-mart is open until 10
2008-01-17 00:06 < Demi> and the home depot is already closed, so i don't know
2008-01-17 00:06 < Leslie_S> and theres TWO SECURITY CAMERAS for every checkout. its not like they can get away with anything.
2008-01-17 00:07 < tonsofpcs> <Demi> actually the wal-mart is sucking the community dry until 10 << fixed
2008-01-17 00:07 < Leslie_S> anyway, bedtime now.
2008-01-17 00:07 < Demi> tonsofpcs - it's not doing that great
2008-01-17 00:07 < gentgeen> do they have two employees to perform a pat down after checkout, like at Fry's?
2008-01-17 00:07 < Leslie_S> gentgeen no.
2008-01-17 00:07 < Demi> heck, i live in a town where the macdonald's shut down for lack of business
2008-01-17 00:07 < FrikkinLazer> Would not help. You can put your stuff in your own pocket right?
2008-01-17 00:07 < Leslie_S> gentgeen but we have criminals standing in front of the store
2008-01-17 00:07 < gentgeen> I make a point not to stop for the Fry's door nazis
2008-01-17 00:08 < quanticle> gentgeen: Was it Circuit City that got sued by the guy for refusing to let him leave without showing his receipt?
2008-01-17 00:08 < The359> lol
2008-01-17 00:08 < gentgeen> legally, they can't search me without cause
2008-01-17 00:08 * The359 loved A Daily Show tonight
2008-01-17 00:08 < FrikkinLazer> They cant search you, but they CAN look at your receipt right?
2008-01-17 00:08 < The359> And Colbert Report
2008-01-17 00:08 < quanticle> FrikkinLazer: Nope
2008-01-17 00:08 < Demi> FrikkinLazer - opinions differ
2008-01-17 00:08 < tonsofpcs> Demi - there's only one WalMart I like, and that's the closest one to here, and that's only because they have fewer customers per day than [random corner store] gets per 10 minute block
2008-01-17 00:08 < gentgeen> at a club store, you signed an agreement when you joined to let them search you
2008-01-17 00:09 < quanticle> Demi: A person in Illinois sued and won that they can't do anything to you without cause
2008-01-17 00:09 < FrikkinLazer> I dont think its an opinion, either they can, or they cant.
2008-01-17 00:09 < tonsofpcs> [no, I still don't go there]
2008-01-17 00:09 < gentgeen> at a public store, they need a good reason to stop you
2008-01-17 00:09 < Demi> the way they should do it, is have a punch that endorses the receipt, and accept no returns without a receipt
2008-01-17 00:09 < Demi> however, fry's barely accepts returns anyway, so that might not be much of an incentive
2008-01-17 00:09 < FrikkinLazer> Demi : The thieves dont return anything anyway.
2008-01-17 00:09 < quanticle> gentgeen: Yup. You can sue and win if they stop you and harass you.
2008-01-17 00:09 < Demi> FrikkinLazer - "the thieves"?
2008-01-17 00:09 < gentgeen> they accecpt returns, if you're willing to put in the 5 hour process
2008-01-17 00:10 < Demi> the receipt checking is to check up on cashiers, not customers
2008-01-17 00:10 < Demi> gentgeen - it's pretty painful
2008-01-17 00:10 < FrikkinLazer> Demi : Oh, you mean they punch it at the door?
2008-01-17 00:10 < tonsofpcs> I was appaled when the guy started trying to peek in my bag on tuesday as I left microcenter, i had already let him have the receipt, i was the only customer in that 10 minute block, and he saw the girl put the item in my bag, and i picked it up and walked 8 ft to him
2008-01-17 00:10 < gentgeen> yeah
2008-01-17 00:10 < quanticle> FrikkinLazer: Well, there's a precedent that says that they can't stop you without accusing you of stealing, and calling the cops.
2008-01-17 00:10 < tonsofpcs> that's just fucking rude, i mean he could have at least asked to look in
2008-01-17 00:11 < tonsofpcs> [I would have likely asked why]
2008-01-17 00:11 < gentgeen> the Fry brothers are convinced everyone in a Fry's store is there to rob them, including employees, the other Fry brother, etc.
2008-01-17 00:11 < FrikkinLazer> Demi : I don't think that would be legal. If you bought it, and paid for it, theres a contract WITHOUT having your receipt punched.
2008-01-17 00:11 < quanticle> FrikkinLazer: http://www.michaelrighi.com/2007/09/20/success/
2008-01-17 00:11 < Demi> FrikkinLazer - i think what they do is mark it with a highlighter, but what they're doing is making sure the cashier didn't ring up a TV as a snickers bar for their buddy
2008-01-17 00:12 < Demi> they're probably right about the employees
2008-01-17 00:12 < Demi> they don't seem to be there to help anyone, that's for sure
2008-01-17 00:12 < quanticle> Demi: It is to check up on customers, I think, to make sure that no one grabbed a plasma screen TV for $4.99
2008-01-17 00:12 < quanticle> By switching labels or something
2008-01-17 00:13 < quanticle> Demi: They can't legally stop you, though. There's precedent for that: http://www.michaelrighi.com/2007/09/20/success/
2008-01-17 00:13 < tonsofpcs> i was walking through the store, had 3 workers walk by me when i was walking slowly, i started walking quicker, had a guy stop and ask what i was looking for, and he looked around then pointed me to a general area [about 1/3 of the store]
2008-01-17 00:13 < Demi> well, the couple times i've been to fry's i smile and say "no thank you!" when they approach (it's always busy) and walk on by
2008-01-17 00:13 < tonsofpcs> in ohio, there is, yes quanticle
2008-01-17 00:14 < Demi> but mostly i don't go there because i prefer to shop places that don't treat you like a criminal. except costco, i'm okay with them treating me like a criminal.
2008-01-17 00:14 < tonsofpcs> lol
2008-01-17 00:14 < tonsofpcs> because you need to be a criminal to shop at a place that has low prices and doesn't opress the community or the world...
2008-01-17 00:15 * Krimpet only shops at North Korean government owned establishments for that very reason.
2008-01-17 00:15 < Demi> okay, i need to get a handle on this shoe thing or i'm going to be going to the gym in hiking boots
2008-01-17 00:16 < gentgeen> the one with a big L in it goes on the left foot
2008-01-17 00:16 < muchas_spamus> hey all
2008-01-17 00:16 < quanticle> tonsofpcs: Yep. It actually varies quite a bit from state to state, though. In Minnesota, I think stores have a right to stop you...
2008-01-17 00:16 < Demi> gentgeen - unfortunately, i don't have that one
2008-01-17 00:17 * gentgeen has two pairs of gym shoes, partly for this reason
2008-01-17 00:18 * IceKarma hears "presentate" on TV
2008-01-17 00:18 < Demi> i actually own three pairs of suitable shoes, but as i was explaining before you joined, two of them are still in the dogshit remove queue
2008-01-17 00:18 < Demi> IceKarma - nice
2008-01-17 00:18 < gentgeen> ahh
2008-01-17 00:18 < IceKarma> "Mike tries to presentate the food real nice."
2008-01-17 00:19 < Krimpet> you say presentate, I say presuntate
2008-01-17 00:20 < NotACow> I SAY POTATO AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
2008-01-17 00:20 < Demi> okay, i'm just going to go for a hike tomorrow, then
2008-01-17 00:20 * gentgeen is reminded by IceKarma to go clean up recipes at [[b:]]
2008-01-17 00:20 < muchas_spamus> NotACow: :o
2008-01-17 00:20 < NotACow> POTATO POTATO POTATO
2008-01-17 00:20 < Cyrius> this is not a potato
2008-01-17 00:21 < Krimpet> NotACow: (sp). it's clearly spelled "potatoe."
2008-01-17 00:21 * Demi &
2008-01-17 00:21 < NotACow> Krimpet: i'm not dan qualye
2008-01-17 00:21 < NotACow> er quayle
2008-01-17 00:21 < Krimpet> "qualye" is close enough. :)
2008-01-17 00:22 < NotACow> duck
2008-01-17 00:22 < NotACow> i still don't understand why i voted for him
2008-01-17 00:22 < quanticle> NotACow: You voted for Bush/Quayle?
2008-01-17 00:22 < NotACow> quanticle: i did
2008-01-17 00:22 * gentgeen wonders who the VP nominees will be, as that always is his determining factor ;)
2008-01-17 00:22 < quanticle> NotACow: Who was the alternative?
2008-01-17 00:22 < NotACow> quanticle: someone else
2008-01-17 00:23 < NotACow> quanticle: dukakis?
2008-01-17 00:23 < Krimpet> eww, Bush Sr.
2008-01-17 00:23 < gentgeen> well, either him or Clinton/Gore
2008-01-17 00:23 < NotACow> i met kieran quayle
2008-01-17 00:23 < tonsofpcs> is there a quality scale class below stub? I'm looking for something like "fail" as in "anyone who has worked on this article obviously failed any course that mentioned the term in any institution"
2008-01-17 00:23 < quanticle> NotACow: Yeah, I probably would have voted for Bush over Dukakkis. Granted, I was around 4 at the time...
2008-01-17 00:23 < Krimpet> "atheists aren't citizens"
2008-01-17 00:23 < quanticle> Krimpet: Who said that?
2008-01-17 00:23 * gentgeen remembers Ronny getting shot
2008-01-17 00:23 < Krimpet> quanticle, George Bush
2008-01-17 00:23 < NotACow> i was 19 in 1988
2008-01-17 00:24 < Krimpet> "No, I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God."
2008-01-17 00:24 < quanticle> Krimpet: Bush the Senior, or Bush the Junior?
2008-01-17 00:24 < Krimpet> Senior
2008-01-17 00:24 < bumm13> gentgeen: executivicide attempt? ;)
2008-01-17 00:25 * gentgeen wonders if there's a [[List of people with aircraft carriers named after them]]
2008-01-17 00:25 < quanticle> Krimpet: So that's the origin of that proposed debate question, "Do you believe that atheists are citizens?"
2008-01-17 00:25 < tonsofpcs> probably, gentgeen
2008-01-17 00:25 * quanticle learned something
2008-01-17 00:25 < Krimpet> quanticle: yeah, most likely
2008-01-17 00:26 < quanticle> Krimpet: I was wondering what they were referring to. It was before my time...
2008-01-17 00:27 < quanticle> Atheists are the last minority group it is still OK to discriminate against...
2008-01-17 00:27 < quanticle> Socially OK, I mean
2008-01-17 00:27 < the_velocifier> the sandbox was deleted?
2008-01-17 00:27 < the_velocifier> why?
2008-01-17 00:27 < gentgeen> was Ed Poor feeling bold?
2008-01-17 00:27 < Krimpet> the_velocifier, we needed the sand to line Jimbo's pet birdcage
2008-01-17 00:27 < quanticle> the_velocifier: The sandbox wasn't deleted
2008-01-17 00:28 < quanticle> the_velocifier: Its still there under [[WP:SB]]
2008-01-17 00:28 < The359> it was reverted
2008-01-17 00:28 < the_velocifier> quanticle: well, the topic in this chatroom is quite misleading - "The sandbox was deleted"
2008-01-17 00:28 < Ningyou> who the hell is michael righi?
2008-01-17 00:28 < gentgeen> we don't italicize someone name, right? even if it's transliterated chinese?
2008-01-17 00:28 < Ningyou> seems to be one of the most self-centered and childish people I've _ever_ heard of
2008-01-17 00:29 * Krimpet can fix that
2008-01-17 00:29 < Ningyou> and he's even trying to make him look like a martyr
2008-01-17 00:29 < quanticle> Ningyou: Right, but he makes a good point. People do need to know and exercise their rights from time to time.
2008-01-17 00:30 < Ningyou> I'd agree about that if he had a reason
2008-01-17 00:30 < Ningyou> now that was just childish
2008-01-17 00:30 < quanticle> Ningyou: You need a reason to exercise your rights?
2008-01-17 00:30 < muchas_spamus> i'm a spammer!
2008-01-17 00:30 < Ningyou> what he did, I mean
2008-01-17 00:30 < muchas_spamus> ban me is you can, werdan7!
2008-01-17 00:30 < werdan7> Krimpet: ^
2008-01-17 00:31 < werdan7> or bumm13 :)
2008-01-17 00:31 < the_velocifier> who was that?
2008-01-17 00:31 < quanticle> Ningyou: I understand what you're trying to say, but I can't help but think that it was Circuit City and the police department that overreacted in this case
2008-01-17 00:31 < Ningyou> quanticle: well, just because there is a way to do something stupid like not having to show your id, it doesn't mean you have to do it just for the sake of doing it
2008-01-17 00:31 * Krimpet is slow on her draw today. :)
2008-01-17 00:31 < werdan7> ban *!n=7cb492dc@gateway/* or he'll just keep coming back
2008-01-17 00:31 < quanticle> Ningyou: Well, sometimes it does. How do you know you still have a right, if you don't exercise it occassionally just for the hell of it?
2008-01-17 00:32 < bumm13> werdan7: they'll use a different node anyway
2008-01-17 00:32 < Krimpet> werdan7: his gateway changes
2008-01-17 00:32 < Ningyou> like this once a guard working in department store here accused me of stealing, and as I asked for his ID and ID number, he refused to show them to me, saying that he didn't have to
2008-01-17 00:32 < quanticle> Krimpet: Nuke hime harder
2008-01-17 00:32 < quanticle> *him
2008-01-17 00:32 < Krimpet> see :P
2008-01-17 00:32 < Ningyou> the sad thing is, that my father is/was his boss
2008-01-17 00:32 < Ningyou> BUT I still didn't try to sue
2008-01-17 00:32 < werdan7> you sure about that :P ?
2008-01-17 00:32 < Ningyou> him or anything
2008-01-17 00:33 < Krimpet> oh, wait, I was looking at the x- part
2008-01-17 00:33 < Ningyou> quanticle: I live in a country where police isn't my enemy :P
2008-01-17 00:33 < quanticle> Ningyou: He didn't sue. He just refused to settle out of court until it was pointed out that the precedent was already set
2008-01-17 00:33 < mcchicken> im a spammer!
2008-01-17 00:33 < quanticle> Ningyou: Are you a minority?
2008-01-17 00:33 < Pilotguy> Guys
2008-01-17 00:33 < SinSeer> ban with this, its his encoded ip: n=7cb492dc
2008-01-17 00:33 < Pilotguy> Either temp ban GCI:IRC or don't bother
2008-01-17 00:33 < Pilotguy> You're wasting your and our time
2008-01-17 00:33 < Ningyou> quanticle: yeah, but I could have still used my civil rights to have him show his ID to me, which they have to do :P
2008-01-17 00:34 < Ningyou> same as police have to show their ID to me if I want them to :P
2008-01-17 00:34 < quanticle> Ningyou: Why didn't you?
2008-01-17 00:34 < Ningyou> quanticle: why I'd bother? I knew I was right :P
2008-01-17 00:34 < quanticle> Ningyou: I always get badge numbers and names when I get stopped. Granted, I've only been stopped once, but the one time was for a frivolous reason...
2008-01-17 00:34 < bumm13> Pilotguy: how exactly is your time being wasted?
2008-01-17 00:34 < bumm13> this is an IRC channel
2008-01-17 00:35 < bumm13> (if anything, it's wasted simply by being here ;p )
2008-01-17 00:35 < Pilotguy> bumm13- exactly.
2008-01-17 00:35 < quanticle> Ningyou: I guess my experiences with police authority have taught me to always keep my bases covered
2008-01-17 00:35 * bumm13 helps Pilotguy leave ;)
2008-01-17 00:35 * LuciferTiger_ wonders what experiences did the cat have
2008-01-17 00:36 < Ningyou> quanticle: well guards here don't have names, they have ID numbers. This is to prevent revenge acts or anything :P + I've never had any real problems, other than caused by myself, with the police
2008-01-17 00:36 < Ningyou> I'm just guessing there's a difference between the two countries here, so I don't know :P
2008-01-17 00:36 < Ningyou> but still, the thing he did feels ridicilous and childish to me :P
2008-01-17 00:36 < quanticle> LuciferTiger: Well the one time I got stopped was for a 'speeding' charge that was frivolous and probably racially motivated. I took it to court and got it dropped.
2008-01-17 00:36 < Ningyou> I can't help it
2008-01-17 00:37 < quanticle> Ningyou: His tone is certainly petulant, but I don't think I would have done anything different. I would have just written about it differently.
2008-01-17 00:37 < IceKarma> I'm not fond of police (unless I'm working certain retail jobs), but I'm not afraid of them.
2008-01-17 00:37 < Ningyou> I would have just shown my ID
2008-01-17 00:38 < LuciferTiger_> quanticle: dont attribute to racism what can be adequately explained by douchebaggery
2008-01-17 00:38 < quanticle> NingYou: It would have depended on how insistent they were. If they were casual about it, I probably would have cooperated, but if they'd pressed me about it, I would have stood my ground.
2008-01-17 00:39 < quanticle> LuciferTiger_: There were some racially charged remarks made by the cop.
2008-01-17 00:39 < LuciferTiger_> oh that was just a bad joke on my part.
2008-01-17 00:39 < Ningyou> I still most likely wouldn't have, as they are the people who work to protect me and others and I'd be just stopping them from doing it :P
2008-01-17 00:39 < LuciferTiger_> was this around 2001?
2008-01-17 00:39 < FrikkinLazer> What if you didnt HAVE your id?
2008-01-17 00:39 < quanticle> LuciferTiger_: Well, not racial, per se, but he did make some derogatory remarks about 'immigrants'
2008-01-17 00:40 < Ningyou> especially if I didn't do anything wrong :P
2008-01-17 00:40 < LuciferTiger_> yeah i know how some of them are. i have had that kind of attitude more with black people than with white people.
2008-01-17 00:40 < quanticle> LuciferTiger_: It was around mid-2002. So I guess 9/11 might have played a role
2008-01-17 00:40 < Ningyou> and yes, cops can be asses from time to time, but it doesn't mean one has to be an equal ass ;P
2008-01-17 00:40 < FrikkinLazer> Fear makes people stupid.
2008-01-17 00:40 < FrikkinLazer> Fear really is themind killer.
2008-01-17 00:41 < LuciferTiger_> quanticle: but then you have to kinda understand that he might be having a bad day with a few brown and yellow people driving badly before you
2008-01-17 00:41 < quanticle> Ningyou: I wasn't an ass, but I did tell him up-front that I was going to contest this charge. To be fair, he wasn't an ass about it either once he figured out I wasn't kidding.
2008-01-17 00:41 < Ningyou> quanticle: I didn't mean you were being an ass, just people in general :P
2008-01-17 00:41 < LuciferTiger_> Ningyou: where u from?
2008-01-17 00:42 < quanticle> Ningyou: Oh, yeah. That Righi fellow was an ass, even though he was in the clear, legally
2008-01-17 00:42 < Ningyou> quanticle: I do understand why you di what you did, no reason for not doing that :P
2008-01-17 00:42 < Ningyou> LuciferTiger: Finland
2008-01-17 00:42 < FrikkinLazer> Unfortunately, being an ass is not against the law.
2008-01-17 00:42 * IceKarma wishes her ceiling was better soundproofed.
2008-01-17 00:42 < Ningyou> I'vehad more problems with police in Japan than in Finland though :P
2008-01-17 00:42 < LuciferTiger_> FrikkinLazer: yeah unfortunately.
2008-01-17 00:42 < quanticle> Ningyou: To be honest, I fought more for financial reasons. I didn't want to pay $180...
2008-01-17 00:42 < Ningyou> quanticle :P
2008-01-17 00:43 * LuciferTiger_ is wishing exactly that at the moment
2008-01-17 00:43 < FrikkinLazer> So, the guy might very well have been an ass... but that does not mean he was wrong.
2008-01-17 00:43 < bumm13> I still suspect that police departments have "speeder quotas"
2008-01-17 00:43 < LuciferTiger_> IceKarma: Noisy people upstairs?
2008-01-17 00:43 < quanticle> bumm13: I'm pretty sure they do. Towards the end of the month, the number of speed traps in my area skyrockets.
2008-01-17 00:43 < FrikkinLazer> Ice: What are they doing? Making salad very loudly?
2008-01-17 00:44 < IceKarma> LuciferTiger, just one of them. he's large, and very heavy on his feet.
2008-01-17 00:44 < LuciferTiger_> the ones above mine are sleeping restlessly and agreeing with each other rather loudly
2008-01-17 00:44 < bumm13> and of course, that's not so much malicious as highly annoying and unnecessary
2008-01-17 00:44 < Ningyou> FrikkinLazer: he was "right", but it still seems so damn childish to me :P
2008-01-17 00:44 < Ningyou> to fight about thing like that
2008-01-17 00:44 < quanticle> FrikkinLazer: 'Making salad'? Now that's one I haven't heard before...
2008-01-17 00:44 < bumm13> but nobody's going to mass-protest "victimless crimes", so to speak
2008-01-17 00:44 < bumm13> (so $$$)
2008-01-17 00:44 * NotACow protests random victimless crimes
2008-01-17 00:45 < IceKarma> when he walks around, I swear the entire apartment vibrates.
2008-01-17 00:45 < LuciferTiger_> IceKarma: lucky. theres a couple above me. they seem to be either trying to conceive rather unsuccessfully or spending the rents worth on condoms.
2008-01-17 00:45 < IceKarma> the sliding door sure does, if it's not shut right
2008-01-17 00:45 < quanticle> bumm13: Most people regard speeding tickets as just another tax they have to pay from time to time.
2008-01-17 00:46 < bumm13> again, highly annoying and unnecessary
2008-01-17 00:46 < Ningyou> I've never gotten a speeding ticket \o/
2008-01-17 00:46 < bumm13> me neither
2008-01-17 00:46 < Ningyou> just two warnings <3
2008-01-17 00:46 < SinSeer> why not.. just... not speed, haha
2008-01-17 00:46 < LuciferTiger_> me neither
2008-01-17 00:46 < bumm13> speeding is sometimes a bit subjective, really
2008-01-17 00:46 < quanticle> LuciferTiger: Does the one I got dismissed count?
2008-01-17 00:46 < bumm13> that's the gray area that speed traps exploit
2008-01-17 00:46 < LuciferTiger_> well depends
2008-01-17 00:47 < SinSeer> no it's not... if you're going over a certain speed, you're speeding
2008-01-17 00:47 < bumm13> (as it's often dangerous to not stay close to the "flow of traffic" speeds)
2008-01-17 00:47 < quanticle> bumm13: Right, if you're going with traffic, its very easy to speed and not realize it
2008-01-17 00:47 < bumm13> SinSeer: you obviously don't drive
2008-01-17 00:47 < LuciferTiger_> if you want to ramp up the number to brag how badass you are, do count.
2008-01-17 00:47 < Ningyou> the police here found a new way to bust speeders... they take a completely ordinary civilian car, but a camera inside + a strong flashlight and park those cars in random places along the roads
2008-01-17 00:47 < LuciferTiger_> if you want to brag how few u got... dont count
2008-01-17 00:47 < SinSeer> i obviously have driven, many times, although i live in a downtown core and have no need of driving, now