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2008-01-16 17:22 < Demi> parliament decides matters of succession, right?
2008-01-16 17:22 < Save-Me-Oprah> i just can't save my edits
2008-01-16 17:22 < Messedrocker> the servers aren't bastards
2008-01-16 17:22 < Messedrocker> jimbo is married
2008-01-16 17:22 < quanticle> Save-Me-Oprah: Really? Where are you located?
2008-01-16 17:22 < Save-Me-Oprah> Canada
2008-01-16 17:22 < shimgray> Demi: Sort of, though they'd be hard pressed to explicitly break with tradition
2008-01-16 17:22 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bethsteellogo.jpg yeah, I think that image reasoning is a bit off...
2008-01-16 17:23 < quanticle> Hmmm, I'm in the sates and I'm getting the error
2008-01-16 17:23 < CMoreschi> matters of succession?
2008-01-16 17:23 < shimgray> usually they're sounded out as to how they'd go and then the Crown reacts appropriately
2008-01-16 17:23 < Demi> shimgray - ah, i see, they fear the powerful herald bureaucracy
2008-01-16 17:23 < Messedrocker> PLEASE GET UP MISTER BUBBLES
2008-01-16 17:23 < shimgray> cf/ 1936
2008-01-16 17:23 < Save-Me-Oprah> More specifically Atlantic Canada
2008-01-16 17:23 < shimgray> er, 1938
2008-01-16 17:23 < Save-Me-Oprah> Brb.
2008-01-16 17:23 < quanticle> Hmmm, errors are gone for me
2008-01-16 17:23 < Demi> shimgray - was there not some talk about skipping over charles somehow?
2008-01-16 17:23 < NotACow> quanticle: of course, the most important question is whether or not your flag has fringes.
2008-01-16 17:23 < domas> hiiiii
2008-01-16 17:23 < domas> I'm on wikibreak
2008-01-16 17:24 < domas> but will let you know that someone just deleted sandbox
2008-01-16 17:24 < quanticle> NotACow: Our flag doesn't have fringes.
2008-01-16 17:24 < domas> and you might have service interruption
2008-01-16 17:24 < NotACow> domas: what are you doing in here, then?
2008-01-16 17:24 < quanticle> domas: If you're on wikibreak, then what exactly are you doing here?
2008-01-16 17:24 < shimgray> Demi: Yes, but... hmm, perhaps the best way to put it is that it would be almost unthinkable for Parliament to just decide to do that off its own bat, without it being strongly supported by him, HM, or both.
2008-01-16 17:24 < NotACow> quanticle: you see, if the flag has fringes, then you're in a military court.
2008-01-16 17:24 < hta> down?
2008-01-16 17:24 < domas> telling you're screwed
2008-01-16 17:24 < shimgray> mostly its authority is confirming and approving the choice
2008-01-16 17:24 < NotACow> domas: we already knew that.
2008-01-16 17:24 < shimgray> NotACow: Admiralty court.
2008-01-16 17:24 < NotACow> shimgray: heh, yes
2008-01-16 17:24 < Zach> http://www.webhamster.com/
2008-01-16 17:24 < Save-Me-Oprah> Well; according to the recent changes page edits are being made, however I can't save my edits
2008-01-16 17:25 < shimgray> (1937 was Abdication. Well, I guessed close.)
2008-01-16 17:25 < NotACow> domas: we've been screwed for years, but we seem to enjoy it so much that we don't leave :)
2008-01-16 17:25 < quanticle> Oh wow, look at the time.
2008-01-16 17:25 < hta> saveme: me neither.
2008-01-16 17:25 < quanticle> Gotta run
2008-01-16 17:26 < FooBarMartijn> Save-Me-Oprah: nope, according to recent changes there haven't been any changes for 5 minutes or so
2008-01-16 17:26 < Demi> what are those things called, objects involved in a crime that become property of the crown? starts with a 'd' i think.
2008-01-16 17:26 < shimgray> Deodand
2008-01-16 17:26 < NotACow> Demi: donuts
2008-01-16 17:26 < Demi> ah yes, that's it
2008-01-16 17:26 < shimgray> it's the article which caused the death
2008-01-16 17:26 < Save-Me-Oprah> FooBar, it shows the most recent edit as this minute for me
2008-01-16 17:26 < Save-Me-Oprah> User creation
2008-01-16 17:26 < Demi> and where can i shoot a scotsman with an arrow? is that leeds?
2008-01-16 17:27 < NotACow> Save-Me-Oprah: user creation doesn't require writing to the table that would be locked for a large deletion, so that makes sense
2008-01-16 17:27 < Save-Me-Oprah> ah
2008-01-16 17:27 < Save-Me-Oprah> yeah Twinkle is just sitting on "Info: Adding a shared ip notice"
2008-01-16 17:27 < NotACow> domas: who's the master for en these days?
2008-01-16 17:27 < hta> last ARTICLE was 6 mins ago. I got one error saying "table "text" is full"...
2008-01-16 17:28 < domas> db2
2008-01-16 17:28 < NotACow> domas: aw, what a boring name!
2008-01-16 17:28 < domas> hta: 1000 transactions waiting in queue for a delete to end
2008-01-16 17:28 < domas> hta: sandbox delete
2008-01-16 17:28 < NotACow> domas: what happened to giving the servers cutesy people names?
2008-01-16 17:28 < domas> notacow: we had few hundred servers to name?
2008-01-16 17:28 < domas> I could have killed that delete
2008-01-16 17:28 < shimgray> Demi: Probably nowhere. The law will, even if nominally still in force, have been superceded...
2008-01-16 17:28 < domas> but I'm not changing anything ;-)
2008-01-16 17:29 < NotACow> domas: i have a baby names book you can borrow with 25,000 names :)
2008-01-16 17:29 < shimgray> sell server-naming rights
2008-01-16 17:29 < NotACow> shimgray: ha, that's a greatfundraising idea
2008-01-16 17:29 < Demi> shimgray - it's a famous one, though
2008-01-16 17:29 < Master_Bigode> .
2008-01-16 17:30 < NotACow> shimgray: of course, you'd end up with http://xkcd.com/327/
2008-01-16 17:30 < shimgray> "I'm getting a ping result from brandtisgay.knams.wikimedia.org..."
2008-01-16 17:30 < Save-Me-Oprah> Can someone please explain to me the difference between "rollback" and "revert"?
2008-01-16 17:30 < Save-Me-Oprah> I got rollback privlidges today but I'm not quite sure what the point is
2008-01-16 17:30 < Demi> Save-Me-Oprah - revert is a general term for making the current version of a page a previous version
2008-01-16 17:30 < Demi> however you do it
2008-01-16 17:30 < shimgray> rollback = revert FASTER
2008-01-16 17:30 < NotACow> Save-Me-Oprah: to make you feel a bit more l33t
2008-01-16 17:30 < Kannie> b Hey guys
2008-01-16 17:30 < Save-Me-Oprah> O rly.
2008-01-16 17:30 < Backstretch> Having rollback means you're part of the ultra-cool cabal.
2008-01-16 17:30 < Demi> "rollback" is the name of a specific tool
2008-01-16 17:30 < hta> save-me-oprah: rollback = one-click revert
2008-01-16 17:31 < Demi> which i guess we're now giving to people who don't know what it's for!
2008-01-16 17:31 < Backstretch> If you don't have rollback, you're a nobody.
2008-01-16 17:31 < NotACow> Demi: heh
2008-01-16 17:31 < geniice> kosovo independence oh dear
2008-01-16 17:31 * NotACow cavorts in her nobodyness
2008-01-16 17:31 < Save-Me-Oprah> lol Demi
2008-01-16 17:31 < NotACow> i have specifically refused to request rollback :)
2008-01-16 17:32 < Save-Me-Oprah> I spent a few hours today reverting vandalism and I see a new message on my talk page "You have rollback abilities!" and I'm just like "uhh ok"
2008-01-16 17:32 * Aqwis forces rollback on NotACow
2008-01-16 17:32 * CMoreschi gives rollback to NotACow
2008-01-16 17:32 < Demi> one of my ebay items in on its way but i haven't heard about the others
2008-01-16 17:32 * NotACow snickers
2008-01-16 17:32 < Kannie> Yeah, I'm kind of perturbed by the 'speciallness' bestowed upon people who have privileges.
2008-01-16 17:32 * NotACow doesn't even have an account that se uses to edit anymore
2008-01-16 17:32 * CMoreschi is tempted
2008-01-16 17:32 < NotACow> Kannie: rank is important.
2008-01-16 17:32 < Demi> it's my shaving brush
2008-01-16 17:32 < NotACow> Kannie: indicia of rank are important, too
2008-01-16 17:33 < Kannie> But the whole point of wikipedia is that we are all equal, ya know?
2008-01-16 17:33 < Backstretch> Someone gave me rollback as a temptation to go back to editing.
2008-01-16 17:33 < Backstretch> Rather funny.
2008-01-16 17:33 < Kannie> Backstrech, heh heh
2008-01-16 17:34 < hta> hey, my specialness comes from the inside - I don't need any privilleges to be special!
2008-01-16 17:34 * Cyrius has privileges but isn't special =(
2008-01-16 17:34 < Demi> Kannie - well, technically not. the point of wikipedia is to make a free encyclopedia and if the best way of doing that is to create a petty, power-hungry oligarchy that's how it should be done.
2008-01-16 17:34 * Cyrius cries
2008-01-16 17:34 * Backstretch nominates Demi as chief oligarch
2008-01-16 17:34 < Master_Bigode> rollback reverts edits made in a row by a single user....
2008-01-16 17:35 < Demi> Backstretch - i'm going to use that as my .sig, now
2008-01-16 17:35 < Backstretch> :)
2008-01-16 17:35 < cabrilo> zocky: tu?
2008-01-16 17:35 < CMoreschi> there is nothing intrinsically wrong with a petty, power hungry oligarchy
2008-01-16 17:35 < yamanbaiia> can anybody edit?
2008-01-16 17:35 < Kannie> Bigode:Yeah, I see a lot of vandalism made in several, small edits. Smart people, it's harder to catch if it's several in a row.
2008-01-16 17:35 < phed> PANIC
2008-01-16 17:35 < CMoreschi> all that matters is the competence of the Rulers
2008-01-16 17:35 < Kannie> yamanbaiia:Technically, yes.
2008-01-16 17:36 < Kannie> CMoreschi:Yes. YES!
2008-01-16 17:36 * The359 hopes the most times I click save edit, the faster Wikimedia's servers will fix themselves ;)
2008-01-16 17:36 < NotACow> Kannie: we are all equal in the sense that we are all different
2008-01-16 17:36 < phed> raze the establishment!
2008-01-16 17:36 < phed> it is odd that wikipedia which is so anti-establishment has so many policies that support it
2008-01-16 17:36 < hta> the problem with being power hungry is that it distracts you from fixing spelling mistakes in Wikipedia. Gotta look out for the important stuff!
2008-01-16 17:36 < CMoreschi> unfortunately, most of the Rulers are not especially competent
2008-01-16 17:36 < NotACow> The359: very logical.
2008-01-16 17:36 < Kannie> At least now there is one power that is seperate from being an admin.
2008-01-16 17:36 < CMoreschi> but then they get locked out of the cabal
2008-01-16 17:36 < geniice> grovey anoither conflict in nepal
2008-01-16 17:36 < CMoreschi> be fair to the cabal
2008-01-16 17:36 < Demi> two legs bad! four legs good!
2008-01-16 17:36 < CMoreschi> it does what it can
2008-01-16 17:36 < yamanbaiia> really, is it working for anyone? i'm getting annoyed
2008-01-16 17:37 < NotACow> hta: those aren't spelling mistakes. those are stylistic variations. stop failing to assume good faith.
2008-01-16 17:37 < geniice> Demi zee birds wish to object
2008-01-16 17:37 < Kannie> NotACow:lol
2008-01-16 17:37 < NotACow> Kannie: there are others; both checkuser and oversight are independent of adminship
2008-01-16 17:37 < hta> your speling misteak is my dialectical variazion!
2008-01-16 17:37 < NotACow> Kannie: i was a checkuser on wiktionary without being an admin.
2008-01-16 17:37 < geniice> yamanbaiia saveing appears to be problematical
2008-01-16 17:37 < phed> :( I can't submit articles
2008-01-16 17:37 < Kannie> NotACow:Sometimes I actually wonder if it's a spelling error, or a different dialect.
2008-01-16 17:37 < hta> not working for anyone.
2008-01-16 17:37 < phed> from within function "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1114: The table 'text' is full (10.0.0.235)".
2008-01-16 17:38 < Warofdreams> yamanbaiia: recent changes shows only a handful of changes in last fifteen minutes
2008-01-16 17:38 < NotACow> heavy constipataion
2008-01-16 17:38 < NotACow> the servers need an enema.
2008-01-16 17:38 < Kannie> NotACow:Well, at least there's ONE MORE power that's seperate from an admin.
2008-01-16 17:38 < yamanbaiia> ajj, the day i feel like writing again this happens
2008-01-16 17:38 < shimgray> http://www.loc.gov/blog/?p=233 - hmm, promising
2008-01-16 17:38 < Demi> quick! delete some text!
2008-01-16 17:38 < Kannie> Miralax? Metamucil?
2008-01-16 17:38 < Kannie> Benefiber?
2008-01-16 17:38 < Luna-San> ./topic Status: Constipated
2008-01-16 17:39 < Phoenix-wiki> lol
2008-01-16 17:39 < geniice> Demi somone did that is the problem
2008-01-16 17:39 < Demi> oh!
2008-01-16 17:39 < phed> Warofdreams, i am getting errors tryin to edit
2008-01-16 17:39 < Demi> that's where my writing tablet was, under all my bills
2008-01-16 17:39 < Demi> do my bills, find my tablet
2008-01-16 17:39 < NotACow> IT'S BROKEN, STOP ASKING
2008-01-16 17:39 < NotACow> GET A LIFE
2008-01-16 17:39 * Cocoaguy "wants to know what is being talked about"
2008-01-16 17:39 < phed> NO
2008-01-16 17:39 < Phoenix-wiki> we might want to -c 'cos there's gonna be a good few peopple coming in here asking what's happening
2008-01-16 17:39 < daniel_ki> phed: me too
2008-01-16 17:39 < Kannie> Inconvient place to have a writing tablet.
2008-01-16 17:39 < Warofdreams> phed: trying to edit, or just trying to save your edit?
2008-01-16 17:39 < phed> I dont want a life!!!!
2008-01-16 17:39 < OverlordQ> ZOMG WHUT R HAPPENIN, jk
2008-01-16 17:39 < Kannie> Under bills, bills, bills
2008-01-16 17:39 < phed> trying to add a section to a talk page
2008-01-16 17:39 < Luna-San> Phoenix-wiki: What's that to do with colors? o.o
2008-01-16 17:39 < OverlordQ> tried to edit my preferences and it said MySQL is full lol :-/
2008-01-16 17:40 * NotACow giggles
2008-01-16 17:40 < Phoenix-wiki> Luna-San@ The error message points here
2008-01-16 17:40 * Cocoaguy still wants to know what is being talked about
2008-01-16 17:40 < phed> wikipedia is full
2008-01-16 17:40 * hta wishes for a channel admin, so that the subject can be changed to "Status: down"
2008-01-16 17:40 < phed> we better delete articles
2008-01-16 17:40 < NotACow> it's not own
2008-01-16 17:40 < NotACow> down
2008-01-16 17:40 < NotACow> phed: that will just make it worse.
2008-01-16 17:40 < phed> it was a joke
2008-01-16 17:40 < NotACow> phed: it was a deletion that caused this, in fact
2008-01-16 17:40 < hta> notacow: status: can't write?
2008-01-16 17:40 < The359> Yeah, someone should change the room topic
2008-01-16 17:40 < Master_Bigode> o_O
2008-01-16 17:41 < Demi> everyone take this opportunity to do your bills
2008-01-16 17:41 < The359> Editing disabled
2008-01-16 17:41 < CMoreschi> someone kill the sandbox?
2008-01-16 17:41 < CMoreschi> back up for me
2008-01-16 17:41 < NotACow> CMoreschi: apparently
2008-01-16 17:41 < hta> thanks!
2008-01-16 17:41 < NotACow> CMoreschi: i wonder who
2008-01-16 17:41 < wimt> CMoreschi, Scientizzle attempted to delete it
2008-01-16 17:41 < Kannie> NotACow:Deletion of waht, I might ask?
2008-01-16 17:41 < CMoreschi> haha
2008-01-16 17:41 < CMoreschi> have we desysopped him yet?
2008-01-16 17:41 < wimt> CMoreschi, latest is the slaves won't be back to normal for about an hour
2008-01-16 17:41 < Cocoaguy> What is being talked about?
2008-01-16 17:41 < CMoreschi> oh for fuck's sake
2008-01-16 17:41 < NotACow> Scientizzle
2008-01-16 17:41 < NotACow> haha
2008-01-16 17:41 < wimt> CMoreschi, he was attempting to remove the code of a virus from the history
2008-01-16 17:41 < NotACow> he deleted two other pages with reasom "rm virus"
2008-01-16 17:42 < CMoreschi> god sake
2008-01-16 17:42 < FooBarMartijn> desysop may be overdoing it, but I think we need a fairly large trout
2008-01-16 17:42 < CMoreschi> stupid idiot
2008-01-16 17:42 < CMoreschi> somone lynch the bastard
2008-01-16 17:42 < Kannie> Yeah, someone lynch zir from adminhood.
2008-01-16 17:42 < NotACow> yes hang him up by his testicles.
2008-01-16 17:42 < Demi> it's pretty silly that deleting a page can bring things down, that's a bad failure mode
2008-01-16 17:42 < NotACow> Demi: welcome to mediawiki
2008-01-16 17:43 < Demi> and it's also silly that the only way to edit history is by deleting a page
2008-01-16 17:43 < Demi> so i wouldn't be too hard on our friend
2008-01-16 17:43 < FooBarMartijn> Demi: it's 250k revisions
2008-01-16 17:43 < Kannie> I wonder who did it?
2008-01-16 17:43 < hta> hm. mysql was bought by sun today. perhaps we could move to a sun serverfarm?
2008-01-16 17:43 < Demi> the really silly thing is that it's probably been selectively restored before, meaning you have to keep track of the selectively deleted revisions by hand to preserve them
2008-01-16 17:44 < Cocoaguy> Why are there all these errors when i try to edit?
2008-01-16 17:44 < Demi> hta - or maybe a different wiki platform?
2008-01-16 17:44 < phed> wikipedia should rather be an in memory database :D
2008-01-16 17:44 < Revolving> cocoa: Wikipedia exploded
2008-01-16 17:44 < geniice> Cocoaguy because someone did somethign nastly to the database
2008-01-16 17:44 < mavhk> can we blame sun or do we still have to blame php/mysql?
2008-01-16 17:44 < Kannie> Cocoaguy, Wikipedia was hit by an atom bomb.
2008-01-16 17:44 < geniice> eh remeber when VFD got deleted
2008-01-16 17:44 < FooBarMartijn> no, we blame stupidity
2008-01-16 17:44 < Demi> FooBarMartijn - so?
2008-01-16 17:44 < phed> wikipedia can't be edited because the keyboard is broken
2008-01-16 17:45 < Demi> if you find you can't edit, it's probably best to try again and again, as fast as you can
2008-01-16 17:45 < phed> i hope it was my article that broke it
2008-01-16 17:46 < phed> i am so proud of the fact i managed to crash my old isp by just playing in the shell
2008-01-16 17:46 < Warofdreams> I broke Wikipedia once...
2008-01-16 17:46 < Kannie> Yeah, how this happened is a little technical
2008-01-16 17:46 < RevolvingBugbear> apparently the sandbox has so many revisions that I also explode when it gets deleted
2008-01-16 17:46 < phed> i had no idea what i did
2008-01-16 17:46 < Cocoaguy> i try but i keep getting a "Database Locked" and MySQL errors
2008-01-16 17:46 < Warofdreams> ...tried renaming a user with a lot of edits - the developer I asked didn't think there'd be a problem.
2008-01-16 17:46 < geniice> Cocoaguy yeah just wait it out for now
2008-01-16 17:46 < Demi> the thing that chokes is the log distribution
2008-01-16 17:46 < Save-Me-Oprah> no1 care
2008-01-16 17:46 < RevolvingBugbear> Warofdreams: was it John Carter? because if so, I salute you
2008-01-16 17:46 < Kannie> RevolvingBugbear:How do you manage to stay alive after many explosions? :-)
2008-01-16 17:46 < geniice> Warofdreams shouldn't be a problem any more
2008-01-16 17:47 < RevolvingBugbear> Kannie: I'm an admin now -- I just roll myself back
2008-01-16 17:47 < Warofdreams> no, well before John Carter.
2008-01-16 17:47 < Kannie> RevolvingBugbear:I was thinking in the literal sense...
2008-01-16 17:47 < Warofdreams> geniice: I do try not to be a problem
2008-01-16 17:47 < Pegship> any idea whassup with editing?
2008-01-16 17:47 < Kannie> The sandbox got deleted?
2008-01-16 17:47 < Carnildo> It's broke
2008-01-16 17:48 < Pegship> wow, techie language
2008-01-16 17:48 < OverlordQ> Kannie: yup
2008-01-16 17:48 < geniice> Pegship> database feelinjg ill
2008-01-16 17:48 < RevolvingBugbear> Kannie: yeah, I know, but I didn't have a good answer to your question
2008-01-16 17:48 < Kannie> Overlord:Why would it be deleted?
2008-01-16 17:48 < Carnildo> I got a "the table 'revisions' is full" error. Guess that means Wikipedia is complete.
2008-01-16 17:48 < Demi> the thingamajobber isn't jibing with the whatzits
2008-01-16 17:48 < daniel_ki> I edit Wikipedia maybe once a year, and then this
2008-01-16 17:48 < Demi> Kannie - to remove a revision
2008-01-16 17:48 < phed> yepp, everybody go home
2008-01-16 17:48 < daniel_ki> this is a conspiracy against me
2008-01-16 17:48 < Kannie> Ooooh
2008-01-16 17:49 < Cocoaguy> oh this is not good
2008-01-16 17:49 < Kannie> Strange way to remove a revision, doncha think?
2008-01-16 17:50 < OverlordQ> Kannie: somebody who didn't know any better
2008-01-16 17:50 < RevolvingBugbear> er, isn't it the -only- way to remove a revision?
2008-01-16 17:50 < Tony_Sidaway> gwern: I was wrong about xmonad being bloated (obviously). It's rather neat and pretty. I was misremembering from some other horror that had been spun off from dwm.
2008-01-16 17:50 < guest1_> hi i'm new to IRC. whats happening, seems like some newbie/troll has flooded Recent Changes a bit?
2008-01-16 17:51 < Demi> Kannie - yes, i do
2008-01-16 17:51 < Warofdreams> revolvingbugbear: think it must have been PDH
2008-01-16 17:51 < Tony_Sidaway> I just had to trog all the way down to Charing Cross nick to pick up my daughter. She had spat at a policeman.
2008-01-16 17:51 < hardy> Can someone explain in plain English what's going on?
2008-01-16 17:51 < Demi> Kannie - unfortunately we're stuck with it
2008-01-16 17:51 < FooBarMartijn> guest1_: There are some technical difficulties. Expectations for it to be over is somewhere between any minute and a few hours
2008-01-16 17:51 < OverlordQ> hardy: when somebody deletes a page with lots of revisions, the site goes tits up
2008-01-16 17:51 < guest1_> please do tell:) sorry bout yr daughter tony- shocking!
2008-01-16 17:51 < Xy7> who deleted what?
2008-01-16 17:52 < OverlordQ> hardy: somebody deleted the sandbox, which as you imagine has a metric assload of revisions
2008-01-16 17:52 < Kannie> Xy7, someone deleted the sandbox
2008-01-16 17:52 < Xy7> oh dear
2008-01-16 17:52 < Pegship> what did the policeman do?
2008-01-16 17:52 < phed> haha
2008-01-16 17:52 < Tony_Sidaway> guest1_: it's okay. She's just off her anti-psychotic medication and it makes her behave unpredictably.
2008-01-16 17:52 < phed> I remember when I spat at a lady once
2008-01-16 17:52 < guest1_> lol it's nt just that- some wierd pic uploading/multiple account creating person's on
2008-01-16 17:52 < RevolvingBugbear> can someone change the # topic to say this?
2008-01-16 17:52 < Pegship> tony: been there, done that
2008-01-16 17:52 < phed> a very thick ugly spitclout
2008-01-16 17:52 < guest1_> omg t_s
2008-01-16 17:52 < phed> she was shocked and I was ashamed. it wasn't on purpose
2008-01-16 17:52 < OverlordQ> already does say RevolvingBugbear
2008-01-16 17:52 < OverlordQ> Status: Reading is fine, editing not so much. WE KNOW.
2008-01-16 17:52 < phed> and my attempt at trying to tidy it was awful
2008-01-16 17:53 < guest1_> do the police understand she's not really responsible 4 what's she's doing?
2008-01-16 17:53 < RevolvingBugbear> overlordq: yeah, I know, but the next obvious question (which the last five people have asked) is why
2008-01-16 17:53 < phed> guest1_, not many police are trained in how to deal with mentally ill people
2008-01-16 17:53 < Pegship> can't the sandbox just get re-created?
2008-01-16 17:53 < Kannie> And who?
2008-01-16 17:53 < hardy> So any time someone deletes an article with a large number of revisions, this happens?
2008-01-16 17:53 < OverlordQ> hardy: yes
2008-01-16 17:53 < Demi> hardy - more or less
2008-01-16 17:53 < Master_Bigode> Scientizzle deleted the sandbox, I think.
2008-01-16 17:53 < Kannie> Does it ever last THIS long, though?
2008-01-16 17:54 < Tony_Sidaway> guest1_: the medical officer examined her. Actually in the end they didn't bother to assess her, just dropped charges because it wasn't in the public interest.
2008-01-16 17:54 < guest1_> does she have a psych nurse/social worker who can talk 2 them if it happens again
2008-01-16 17:54 < Demi> sometimes it lasts a lot longer
2008-01-16 17:54 < OverlordQ> Kannie: depends on revisions I'd think
2008-01-16 17:54 < Xy7> potentially silly question, but why does the sandbox still exist if it was deleted?
2008-01-16 17:54 < CMoreschi> why could not oversight have been used here?
2008-01-16 17:54 < bogdan2005> why was it deleted?
2008-01-16 17:54 < guest1_> has someone looked at RC , looked well wierd when I last looked
2008-01-16 17:54 < NotACow> CMoreschi: because scientizza doesn't have oversight
2008-01-16 17:54 < Demi> i'm gathering there's a disk space/extent size issue in the master and/or some of the slaves, in addition to the usual log shipping problem
2008-01-16 17:54 < Tony_Sidaway> guest1_: yeah we'll be talking to her shrink tomorrow.
2008-01-16 17:54 < CMoreschi> NotACow: going to admin IRC and saying ! oversight usually works pretty well, though
2008-01-16 17:55 < Master_Bigode> Xy7, the database got f***ed up.
2008-01-16 17:55 < Pegship> looks like scientizzle is rv something
2008-01-16 17:55 < guest1_> i don't know y it isn't showing my username- i'll look
2008-01-16 17:55 < NotACow> CMoreschi: that would require, like, being collaborative
2008-01-16 17:55 < guest1_> lol
2008-01-16 17:55 < CMoreschi> true
2008-01-16 17:55 < Kannie> Heh heh heh
2008-01-16 17:55 < Xy7> I see, explains why it doesn't show in the logs
2008-01-16 17:55 < NotACow> Xy7: it's not in the logs yet because the transaction is not yet complete.
2008-01-16 17:55 < NotACow> Xy7: aqnd the log entry is written AFTER the deleted revisions have been deleted.
2008-01-16 17:55 < Xy7> ah right
2008-01-16 17:55 < bogdan2005> any reason why he deleted ti?
2008-01-16 17:55 < Demi> the idea that you use oversight because it's more *practical* than what admins can do is pretty displeasing, from a design point of view
2008-01-16 17:56 < NotACow> bogdan2005: it contained a virus
2008-01-16 17:56 < Demi> bogdan2005 - to remove posted malware
2008-01-16 17:56 < Xy7> ok, ta :)
2008-01-16 17:56 < bogdan2005> ah, okay, thanks.
2008-01-16 17:56 < kripz> o
2008-01-16 17:56 < OverlordQ> bogdan2005: somebody put a batch file virus in there and in his infinite wisdom thought it was better to delete it from the history then leave it there
2008-01-16 17:56 < NotACow> Demi: revision delete would be useful
2008-01-16 17:56 < phed> omg a batchfile virus
2008-01-16 17:56 < Pegship> twas a vandal, MODX, who gave us the virus.
2008-01-16 17:56 < Tony_Sidaway> On top of everything, after fifteen years in London, for the first time I managed to forget where Charing Cross Road was. Unbelievable, akin to forgetting your own birthday.
2008-01-16 17:56 < daniel_ki> so the virus worked indirectly?
2008-01-16 17:56 < daniel_ki> clever
2008-01-16 17:56 < kripz> how fucked is the site?
2008-01-16 17:56 < shimgray> Tony_Sidaway: That's pretty bad.
2008-01-16 17:57 < NotACow> kripz: it's not pretty.
2008-01-16 17:57 < Save-Me-Oprah> Anyone know if images published under Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 2.0 Generic license can be used on Wikipedia?
2008-01-16 17:57 < Demi> Tony_Sidaway - hm, interesting
2008-01-16 17:57 < Cocoaguy> shimguy:more than bad
2008-01-16 17:57 < Demi> though i have forgotten my age if not my birthday
2008-01-16 17:57 < bogdan2005> NotACow: now that's the most reasonable idea I heard tonight.
2008-01-16 17:57 < shimgray> Save-Me-Oprah: No, we don't accept noncommercial or nonderivatives
2008-01-16 17:57 < Cocoaguy> wikipedia is fucked
2008-01-16 17:57 < Tony_Sidaway> Spent about twenty minutes puttering around near the Whitehall side of Trafalgar Square.
2008-01-16 17:57 < RevolvingBugbear> kripz: currently viewing but no editing, and it could be a while
2008-01-16 17:57 < Save-Me-Oprah> k
2008-01-16 17:57 < kripz> k, i'll do something else
2008-01-16 17:57 < Demi> Tony_Sidaway - i'm a tourist so obviously i know more or less where it is
2008-01-16 17:57 < kripz> i guess this is busier than usual here, right?
2008-01-16 17:57 < kripz> or not significantly
2008-01-16 17:57 < Pegship> just tried to edit...still no dice
2008-01-16 17:58 < Master_Bigode> @Cocoaguy:We know, we know
2008-01-16 17:58 < Pegship> just an update...or lack thereof
2008-01-16 17:58 < Tony_Sidaway> Demi: I saw the name "Charing Cross Road" but it didn't click. I was thinking it must be close to Charing Cross itself.
2008-01-16 17:58 < Mike_lifeguard> it's busy cuz things are locked
2008-01-16 17:58 < Tony_Sidaway> ridiculous
2008-01-16 17:58 < Demi> i imagine you might have been a bit preoccupied
2008-01-16 17:58 < kripz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charing_Cross_Road
2008-01-16 17:59 < RevolvingBugbear> is there a Wikipedia:People who totally fucked things up in three button presses or less?
2008-01-16 17:59 < merky> hi this is guest1 aka merkinsmum- still getting to grips w the IRC
2008-01-16 17:59 < Tony_Sidaway> Yes, and I'd missed a meal, too. I don't think well on an empty stomach.
2008-01-16 17:59 < merky> lol it could b a competition
2008-01-16 17:59 < hardy> So is someone actually doing something about the situation? And how long should it take?
2008-01-16 17:59 < Pegship> I'm off then...good luck tony
2008-01-16 17:59 < shimgray> yes, and "wait" :-)
2008-01-16 17:59 < Mike_lifeguard> the devs already know
2008-01-16 17:59 < RevolvingBugbear> hardy: yes -- it's called waiting
2008-01-16 17:59 < Mike_lifeguard> they have not killed it, so far as I know.
2008-01-16 18:00 < kripz> 'table 'text' is full' is a pretty cool error message
2008-01-16 18:00 < phed> if we all whine a lot it will come up faster. 100% FACT
2008-01-16 18:00 < Luna-San> hardy: Yes, and the last estimate I heard was about an hour
2008-01-16 18:00 < kripz> somebody send them a new hard drive
2008-01-16 18:00 < Cocoaguy> How did wikipedia get so fucked
2008-01-16 18:00 < Mike_lifeguard> kripz: that's not the probm
2008-01-16 18:00 < bogdan2005> oh, well, everyone: it's time to write a new article in notepad/textedit/whatever :P
2008-01-16 18:00 < Demi> anyone here use a straight razor?
2008-01-16 18:00 < kripz> what's the reason for that error then?
2008-01-16 18:01 < Mike_lifeguard> Cocoaguy: a sysop deleted the sandbox, which has ~30 000 revisions
2008-01-16 18:01 < hardy> Where did you hear this estimate? Is there some reason to think the person who gave you the estimate know something about it?
2008-01-16 18:01 < Cocoaguy> oh boy
2008-01-16 18:01 < FooBarMartijn> Demi: I used to, but they are hard to get
2008-01-16 18:01 < FooBarMartijn> why?
2008-01-16 18:01 < Save-Me-Oprah> Arrgh
2008-01-16 18:01 < merky> itdemi u going emo?
2008-01-16 18:01 < Save-Me-Oprah> "1114: The table 'user' is full (10.0.0.235)"
2008-01-16 18:01 < Mike_lifeguard> hardy: yes, that estimate came from a developer
2008-01-16 18:01 < merky> demi
2008-01-16 18:01 < x42bn6> believe it or not there is life outside editing wikipedia
2008-01-16 18:01 < Mike_lifeguard> Save-Me-Oprah: we know
2008-01-16 18:01 < merky> noooo
2008-01-16 18:01 < merky> !
2008-01-16 18:01 < Demi> FooBarMartijn - i'm switching, or a i think i am
2008-01-16 18:01 < phed> x42bn6, lies
2008-01-16 18:01 < mavhk> go outside, find out something to input into wikipedia
2008-01-16 18:01 < kripz> yeah, there appears to be chatting about how fucked it is
2008-01-16 18:01 < NotACow> ah, way to go, idiots
2008-01-16 18:01 < Demi> the table is full thing in mysql could be from a few things, IIRC (and i might not, it's been a while since i supported mysql)
2008-01-16 18:01 < FooBarMartijn> Demi: I figured if people in the Dark Ages could use them, so could I
2008-01-16 18:02 < NotACow> brion had to +m wikimedia-tech because of all the whiners who insist that THEY NEED TO EDT WIKIPEDIA NOW
2008-01-16 18:02 < merky> google, more likely to find something 2 input on wiki on internets lol
2008-01-16 18:02 < FooBarMartijn> and I turned out to be right
2008-01-16 18:02 < Mike_lifeguard> Demi: we know what it's from
2008-01-16 18:02 < FooBarMartijn> but practice on a baloon first, to reduce cuts on your first try
2008-01-16 18:02 < merky> if we go out we might -shock- forget all about wiki 4 a bit
2008-01-16 18:02 < Tony_Sidaway> Mark Lawson is interviewing Russell T. Davies on the set of the TARDIS control room.
2008-01-16 18:02 < kripz> people in the dark ages used to make fire with sticks
2008-01-16 18:02 < Kannie> Wikipedia is fucked. I need a bumper that says that.
2008-01-16 18:02 < phed> NotACow, that's the bikeshed of tech support
2008-01-16 18:02 < Demi> kripz - it would be cool to be able to do that, too
2008-01-16 18:02 < Master_Bigode> OMG, BRB
2008-01-16 18:02 < phed> tech support in dark ages was hard
2008-01-16 18:02 < phed> books was complicated stuff
2008-01-16 18:02 < phed> and people kept doing it wrong
2008-01-16 18:02 < Demi> Mike_lifeguard - what?
2008-01-16 18:03 < Mike_lifeguard> Demi: a sysop deleted the sandbox, which has ~30 000 revisions
2008-01-16 18:03 < Demi> Mike_lifeguard - and?
2008-01-16 18:03 < LawrenceWCohen> what does this mean?
2008-01-16 18:03 < NotACow> Mike_lifeguard: more than that
2008-01-16 18:03 < LawrenceWCohen> A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
2008-01-16 18:03 < LawrenceWCohen> (SQL query hidden)
2008-01-16 18:03 < LawrenceWCohen> from within function "User::invalidateCache". MySQL returned error "1114: The table 'user' is full (10.0.0.235)".
2008-01-16 18:03 < Mike_lifeguard> = Bad Idea (TM)
2008-01-16 18:03 < Mike_lifeguard> LawrenceWCohen: we know
2008-01-16 18:03 < Demi> oh, and here you sounded so confident
2008-01-16 18:03 < LawrenceWCohen> oh, sorry!
2008-01-16 18:03 < NotACow> LawrenceWCohen: the master database server is unhappy.
2008-01-16 18:03 * OverlordQ oints to the topic
2008-01-16 18:03 < LawrenceWCohen> who blew up sandbox?
2008-01-16 18:03 < OverlordQ> points even
2008-01-16 18:03 < kripz> mayhbe that welcome message should be made a bit more explicit
2008-01-16 18:03 < Cocoaguy> wait if the sandbox is gone why can i still see wikipedia:sandbox
2008-01-16 18:03 < kripz> sorry /TITLE or whatever it is
2008-01-16 18:03 * RevolvingBugbear failed sandbox in kindergarten, but he didn't delete it
2008-01-16 18:04 < Demi> do they stil lhave that status page at wherever?
2008-01-16 18:04 < phed> Cocoaguy, probably not propogated yet
2008-01-16 18:04 < NotACow> Cocoaguy: because the transaction deleting it is still in progress.
2008-01-16 18:04 < OverlordQ> Cocoaguy: probably because the SQL is still being processed
2008-01-16 18:04 < Cocoaguy> oh
2008-01-16 18:04 < kripz> so um, has sandbox been deleted before?
2008-01-16 18:04 < LawrenceWCohen> which admin accidentally deleted it?
2008-01-16 18:04 < OverlordQ> kripz: yes
2008-01-16 18:04 < NotACow> Cocoaguy: until the transactin is complete, it won't go out to the slaves, which is what you use when you read
2008-01-16 18:04 < Mike_lifeguard> kripz: yes, and it was Not Good
2008-01-16 18:04 < kripz> oh right
2008-01-16 18:04 < Demi> NotACow - we can have more fun during the restore
2008-01-16 18:04 < Cocoaguy> oh ok
2008-01-16 18:04 < Mike_lifeguard> LAwrenceWCohen: no, they intended to delete it
2008-01-16 18:04 < merky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges whats all this
2008-01-16 18:04 < tepples> user table full? is it time to delete the users with 0 edits?
2008-01-16 18:04 < NotACow> tepples: no
2008-01-16 18:04 < merky> doesn't look like the same prob
2008-01-16 18:04 < kim_bruning> can anyone edit atm?
2008-01-16 18:04 < FooBarMartijn> merky: Things are fucked for about an hour
2008-01-16 18:04 < NotACow> Mike_lifeguard: it is the same problem
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> kim_bruning: NO
2008-01-16 18:05 < OverlordQ> kim_bruning: no, *points to topic*
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> it'll be a while yet
2008-01-16 18:05 < kim_bruning> not even anon?
2008-01-16 18:05 < Red_Farmer> Oh god I can't make the Wikipedia go! My life is over!
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> kim_bruning: NO
2008-01-16 18:05 < amidaniel> kim_bruning: NO
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> kim_bruning: someone deleted the sandbox
2008-01-16 18:05 < tepples> uncyclopedia.org
2008-01-16 18:05 * kim_bruning is too addicted
2008-01-16 18:05 < bogdan2005> Red_Farmer: go to a library and get sources! :P
2008-01-16 18:05 < kim_bruning> NotACow, eh?
2008-01-16 18:05 < LawrenceWCohen> MikeLifeguard: who intended to delete sandbox? this was deliberately done to whack WP?
2008-01-16 18:05 < Red_Farmer> lol
2008-01-16 18:05 < kripz> so the sandbox being deleted is something people shouldn't be able to do?
2008-01-16 18:05 < kim_bruning> NotACow, and this took the wiki down?
2008-01-16 18:05 < OverlordQ> LawrenceWCohen: no, just an admin who didn't know any better
2008-01-16 18:05 < FooBarMartijn> LawrenceWCohen: no, it was an accident
2008-01-16 18:05 < kripz> apologis for the bad Engrish
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> kim_bruning: and the resulting DB transaction impacted the master DB adversely
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> kim_bruning: the wiki isn't down
2008-01-16 18:05 < NotACow> kim_bruning: you can read anythign youw ant.
2008-01-16 18:05 < Mike_lifeguard> LawrenceWCohen: no, it was not intended to lock the db; they wanted to remove a single revision which contained a .bat virus, but didn't ask for oversight
2008-01-16 18:05 < kim_bruning> it's just ... sick?
2008-01-16 18:05 < Red_Farmer> DB=Dragonball
2008-01-16 18:06 < LawrenceWCohen> ohhhhh
2008-01-16 18:06 < The359> Has someone cracked another Admin account?
2008-01-16 18:06 < kripz> i didn't know mysql had transactions :-)
2008-01-16 18:06 < tepples> why isn't the sandbox deleted regularly?
2008-01-16 18:06 < domas> 'impacted' = acquired a lock on autoinc on revision
2008-01-16 18:06 < Mike_lifeguard> *look at the topic please. we know there's a problem*
2008-01-16 18:06 < domas> nothing serious
2008-01-16 18:06 < bogdan2005> who names the dbs after animes? :P
2008-01-16 18:06 < Balloon_Dog> grr
2008-01-16 18:06 < RevolvingBugbear> kim_bruning: the masters are still processing the deletion
2008-01-16 18:06 < kim_bruning> bogdan2005, dude, the fact that you even know ;-)
2008-01-16 18:06 < LawrenceWCohen> who was the lucky admin that did the deletion? :)
2008-01-16 18:06 < Red_Farmer> lol
2008-01-16 18:06 < kim_bruning> AH!
2008-01-16 18:06 < kim_bruning> okay
2008-01-16 18:06 < domas> oh
2008-01-16 18:06 < domas> btw
2008-01-16 18:06 < domas> do you know what happens
2008-01-16 18:06 < domas> when master processes a query?
2008-01-16 18:06 < kim_bruning> so , is this a good reason to close RFA?
2008-01-16 18:06 < The359> someone got an Admin account and deleted [[Atheism]]
2008-01-16 18:06 < OverlordQ> LawrenceWCohen: Scientizzle afaik
2008-01-16 18:06 < Demi> tepples - you might as well ask, "why do you need to delete and restore a page in order to delete a revision"
2008-01-16 18:06 * domas giggles
2008-01-16 18:06 < The359> and unprotected the Main Page
2008-01-16 18:06 < kripz> people would take MySql a lot more seriously if they didn't name it after a Fisher Price toy
2008-01-16 18:06 < RevolvingBugbear> kim_bruning: also, hey, long time no see (said the artist formerly known as Che Nuevara)
2008-01-16 18:07 < Warofdreams> looks like we need to regularly move the sandbox - why do we have so many old revisions of it lying around, anyway? It shouldn't be needed for the GFDL
2008-01-16 18:07 < Cocoaguy> LOL
2008-01-16 18:07 < kim_bruning> RevolvingBugbear, OH COOL! Hello!
2008-01-16 18:07 < Phoenix-wiki> oh, no we can't
2008-01-16 18:07 < NotACow> domas: i'm not intimately familiar with mysql's particular locking behavior :)
2008-01-16 18:07 < Elipongo> Well, now that I know what's up- and posted it to the mailing list- I guess I'll go make dinner and read a book or something. Ta!
2008-01-16 18:07 < Phoenix-wiki> heya Revolving Bugbear, thanks for the nom offer ;_)
2008-01-16 18:07 < domas> anyway
2008-01-16 18:07 < kripz> something like 'ToX SQL' just sounds more enterprise
2008-01-16 18:07 < LawrenceWCohen> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Ike9898
2008-01-16 18:07 < domas> 1024 concurrent transaction limit is in place now
2008-01-16 18:07 < RevolvingBugbear> phoenix-wiki my pleasure :)
2008-01-16 18:07 < OverlordQ> yay for amidaniel
2008-01-16 18:07 < domas> cause there're too many transactions trying to acquire that lock
2008-01-16 18:07 < Xy7> edits are going through
2008-01-16 18:07 < Phoenix-wiki> :-)
2008-01-16 18:07 < Red_Farmer> lol
2008-01-16 18:07 < Mike_lifeguard> that's bad
2008-01-16 18:08 < amidaniel> OverlordQ: :) Anything else that needs to go up there?
2008-01-16 18:08 < Kannie> Xy7, they are?
2008-01-16 18:08 < Kannie> www.wikipedia.org
2008-01-16 18:08 < domas> that is causing 'table is full' error
2008-01-16 18:08 < x42bn6> YOU ARE SAVED
2008-01-16 18:08 < RevolvingBugbear> kim_bruning in case you hadn't heard, my second rfa went -way- better ;)
2008-01-16 18:08 < OverlordQ> amidaniel: looks good to me
2008-01-16 18:08 < amidaniel> kk
2008-01-16 18:08 < The359> yes, that was the Admin account that was taken last night, LawrenceWCohen
2008-01-16 18:08 < NotACow> domas: ah. that makes sense, finally.
2008-01-16 18:08 < Xy7> [[Special:Recentchanges]] looks like it
2008-01-16 18:08 < hardy> I just did a successful edit.
2008-01-16 18:08 < The359> Apparently people are Something Awful's forums got into it
2008-01-16 18:08 < NotACow> hardy: you must have gotten lucky
2008-01-16 18:09 < Kannie> Yeah, there's no sandbox now :(
2008-01-16 18:09 < domas> notacow: the error message is slightly misguided
2008-01-16 18:09 < NotACow> domas: it seems :)
2008-01-16 18:09 < domas> but if you look for information on it elsewhere, you may find my comments
2008-01-16 18:09 < hardy> It was the article titled "Lissajous curve".
2008-01-16 18:09 < Kannie> So I guess wikipedia is okay now.
2008-01-16 18:09 < phed> The359, oh any info on that?
2008-01-16 18:09 < kripz> it's still fucked
2008-01-16 18:09 < kendwork> indeed
2008-01-16 18:09 < kim_bruning> So I managed to add a section to Wikipedia:Consensus
2008-01-16 18:09 < kendwork> and i _never_ submit new articles
2008-01-16 18:09 < kendwork> i'm being censored!
2008-01-16 18:09 < merky> yes it looks like trolls, going on RC
2008-01-16 18:10 < merky> a raid
2008-01-16 18:10 < kendwork> help, help! i'm being wikirepressed!
2008-01-16 18:10 < hardy> OK, I just tried another edit in another browser window and it didn't work.
2008-01-16 18:10 < merky> judging by rc
2008-01-16 18:10 < kim_bruning> kendwork, ;-)
2008-01-16 18:10 < x42bn6> desparation kicks in
2008-01-16 18:10 < Seddon> the database has been locked
2008-01-16 18:10 < RevolvingBugbear> kim_bruning: was it "There is consensus that WP:SANDBOX should not be deleted"?
2008-01-16 18:10 < kim_bruning> RevolvingBugbear, seriously, admins should get more clue ;-)
2008-01-16 18:10 < Cocoaguy> hardy:yea wikipedia is fucked
2008-01-16 18:10 < Demi> kim_bruning - and stop using mediawiki?
2008-01-16 18:10 < Kannie> And the sandbox is well and alive.
2008-01-16 18:10 < kripz> how many admins are there
2008-01-16 18:10 < Demi> kim_bruning - or decide to open a warez site?
2008-01-16 18:10 < LawrenceWCohen> so 8,267 revisions of atheism did that damage--what on earth happens if someone deletes ANI?
2008-01-16 18:11 < Azzt|Latins> kendwork: :DD
2008-01-16 18:11 < Kannie> Still fucked.
2008-01-16 18:11 < kripz> maybe someone should ask Microsoft for a free copy of SQL Server
2008-01-16 18:11 < x42bn6> wikipedians are known for their perseverance
2008-01-16 18:11 < Red_Farmer> a few people are creating new pages
2008-01-16 18:11 < OverlordQ> LawrenceWCohen: it wasn't atheism
2008-01-16 18:11 < Red_Farmer> just not very many
2008-01-16 18:11 < crislee_88> Edits are working, although it says there's an error the edit still goes through
2008-01-16 18:11 < tepples> or postgresql
2008-01-16 18:11 < merky> sounds like a few articles n things were deleted then?
2008-01-16 18:11 < LawrenceWCohen> Overlord: I saw raul said it was
2008-01-16 18:11 < The359> There was a thread at SA
2008-01-16 18:11 * kendwork raises his hand: adding a page
2008-01-16 18:11 < OverlordQ> LawrenceWCohen: it was the sandbox
2008-01-16 18:11 < kendwork> plus editing two
2008-01-16 18:11 < phed> The359, link?
2008-01-16 18:11 < merky> did they know iit would do that
2008-01-16 18:11 < The359> "I'm about to have access to a Wikipedia Admin account"
2008-01-16 18:11 < kim_bruning> Demi, sounds like a plan :-)
2008-01-16 18:11 < hardy> Someone was able to edit "User talk:Jimbo Wales" a couple of minutes ago.
2008-01-16 18:11 < Kannie> Sandbox doesn't work.
2008-01-16 18:11 < kendwork> i must've broken it, trying to do three things at once
2008-01-16 18:11 < The359> And people were suggesting what should be done with it