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2008-01-15 21:17 < Gracenotes> :P
2008-01-15 21:18 < TheWeasel_> He's just getting interviewed
2008-01-15 21:18 < TheWeasel_> "dark caves" are called "undisclosed locations" in their language.
2008-01-15 21:18 < Messedrocker> Gracenotes, changing its *molecular* structure!
2008-01-15 21:18 < Messedrocker> for a temporary amount of time
2008-01-15 21:18 < Gracenotes> oh, really
2008-01-15 21:18 < Messedrocker> and by "temporary"
2008-01-15 21:18 < Messedrocker> i mean it goes from extreme and it gradually reverts
2008-01-15 21:19 < Gracenotes> ...comforting
2008-01-15 21:20 < Gracenotes> ooh, we have a great article on it
2008-01-15 21:20 < Gracenotes> "Hair straightening may be accomplished by using hair irons, chemical relaxers, Japanese hair straightening, or Brazilian hair straightening."</whole article>
2008-01-15 21:20 < geniice> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:MESSENGER_first_photo_of_unseen_side_of_mercury.jpg
2008-01-15 21:20 < quanticle> What the hell is Japanese Hair Straightening?
2008-01-15 21:20 < uberpenguin> it involves an octopus and a wombat
2008-01-15 21:20 < Evil_Monkey> geniice: <cliche>That's no planet!
2008-01-15 21:21 < quanticle> uberpenguin: That's Austrailian hair straightening...
2008-01-15 21:21 < uberpenguin> says you
2008-01-15 21:21 < geniice> Evil_Monkey to be fair I feel it looks rather like Callisto
2008-01-15 21:22 < TheWeasel_> that sounds like a public service about dangerous elements... "The Unseen Side of Mercury"
2008-01-15 21:22 < Messedrocker> mercury is sooooo cool
2008-01-15 21:22 < Messedrocker> too bad it fucks you over
2008-01-15 21:22 < Messedrocker> otherwise i'd love it if someone could buy me a big ol' jar of it
2008-01-15 21:22 < uberpenguin> just collect a ton of old thermostats
2008-01-15 21:23 < uberpenguin> and typically people seem to think mercury is more toxic than it really is
2008-01-15 21:23 < geniice> Messedrocker I probably could but it isn't cheap
2008-01-15 21:23 < uberpenguin> brief external exposure to it in liquid form won't really harm you
2008-01-15 21:23 < Messedrocker> uberpenguin, i want to PLAY with it
2008-01-15 21:24 < uberpenguin> my grandfather did when he unloaded navy ships
2008-01-15 21:24 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Wear gloves
2008-01-15 21:24 < uberpenguin> this was before anything was bad for your health, mind you
2008-01-15 21:24 < quanticle> Messedrocker: and a mask
2008-01-15 21:24 < TheWeasel_> I'd probably put it in my ear or something
2008-01-15 21:24 < Triona> Some forms of mercury are very toxic, and can get through gloves.
2008-01-15 21:24 < Messedrocker> quanticle, and goggles?
2008-01-15 21:24 < quanticle> Triona: Liquid elemental mercury not so much, I'd bet
2008-01-15 21:25 < uberpenguin> yeah, typical neoprene gloves won't really stop mercury
2008-01-15 21:25 < geniice> £73.30 will get you a kilo at 99.99% purity
2008-01-15 21:25 < TheWeasel_> woops... TV has gone out
2008-01-15 21:25 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Not unless you're pouring it in your eyes, in which case you're doing it wrong
2008-01-15 21:25 < Gracenotes> Messedrocker could use some more insanity in his life
2008-01-15 21:25 < Messedrocker> i'll be taking two AP classes next year
2008-01-15 21:25 < Messedrocker> that's enough insanity
2008-01-15 21:25 < Messedrocker> though i would like to be in a threesome
2008-01-15 21:25 < uberpenguin> oh sure, inhale some mercury vapor and you're screwed
2008-01-15 21:25 < quanticle> geniice: A kilo of Mercury isn't that much. Mercury is actually rather dense...
2008-01-15 21:26 < Messedrocker> uberpenguin, is mercury volatile?
2008-01-15 21:26 < uberpenguin> get some liquid mercury on your skin, you're not going to die
2008-01-15 21:26 < geniice> Messedrocker yo a degree
2008-01-15 21:26 < uberpenguin> bathe in mercury... I wouldn't suggest it
2008-01-15 21:26 < quanticle> Messedrocker: No, but it oxidises
2008-01-15 21:26 < Gracenotes> Messedrocker: it's mercurial!
2008-01-15 21:26 < Gracenotes> :P
2008-01-15 21:26 < Messedrocker> okay, so what kind of face mask could i wear that will defend me from mercury?
2008-01-15 21:26 < Triona> while dimethyl mercury will potentially kill you within hours.
2008-01-15 21:26 < Triona> and latex gloves won't save you
2008-01-15 21:26 < uberpenguin> Triona: friend, most metalorganics will kill you within minutes to hours
2008-01-15 21:26 < geniice> quanticle da I know but Sigma-Aldrich sell it in kilo lots
2008-01-15 21:27 < uberpenguin> TMG, silane, phosphine, etc
2008-01-15 21:27 < Messedrocker> i know someone with a master's in environmental chemistry and a bachelor's in chemistry
2008-01-15 21:27 < geniice> Triona months
2008-01-15 21:27 < Messedrocker> the latter being dragonfly6-7
2008-01-15 21:27 < Messedrocker> they'll help me achieve my goal
2008-01-15 21:27 < uberpenguin> hm... I think there are some kinds of gas discharge tubes which contain mercury vapor
2008-01-15 21:27 < uberpenguin> and of course HID lamps
2008-01-15 21:27 < Gracenotes> goal? not in the pokemon-theme-song sense, I hope?
2008-01-15 21:27 < quanticle> Triona: Right, but its unlikely that elemental mercury will change to dimethyl-mercury just by exposure to air
2008-01-15 21:27 < geniice> uberpenguin not significant amounts
2008-01-15 21:28 < uberpenguin> geniice: no, but I'm still not going to be breathing deeply or touching the glass shards when my arc lamp busts
2008-01-15 21:28 < Messedrocker> Gracenotes, in the sense of doing copious amounts of research to acquire the necessary goods and precautions needed
2008-01-15 21:28 < geniice> Messedrocker if you phone up and ask for a kilo of mercury I suspect you will be asked why your company wants it
2008-01-15 21:28 < Messedrocker> my company?
2008-01-15 21:28 < geniice> uberpenguin wimp
2008-01-15 21:28 < uberpenguin> "to inject into fish that we will sell for sushi"
2008-01-15 21:28 < quanticle> Messedrocker: You think they sell to individuals?
2008-01-15 21:28 < uberpenguin> "know what, better make it two kilos"
2008-01-15 21:29 < geniice> Messedrocker they prefer to sell to companies
2008-01-15 21:29 < geniice> otherwise try http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/SearchResultsPage/PricingAvailability/SAJ;19-1510
2008-01-15 21:29 < quanticle> geniice: Though, its not so hard to incorporate, these days...
2008-01-15 21:29 < Messedrocker> quanticle, so i'll create "Mercury Handling Research Inc,"
2008-01-15 21:29 < TheWeasel_> hmph...
2008-01-15 21:29 < Gracenotes> Sushi isn't composed of tertiary consumers, is it? Not that much mercury, I should think
2008-01-15 21:30 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Tuna is a tertiary
2008-01-15 21:30 < Gracenotes> hm, really?
2008-01-15 21:30 < Gracenotes> *did not know*
2008-01-15 21:30 < geniice> quanticle no it isn't but they are likely to ask a few questions as well. Not too much trouble but at least they can claim they made an effort
2008-01-15 21:30 < Messedrocker> Gracenotes, by "consumers" do you mean "heterotrophs"
2008-01-15 21:30 < Gracenotes> yes...
2008-01-15 21:30 < Messedrocker> because it pisses me off when people use "producer" and "consumer" to describe NATURAL ORGANISMS
2008-01-15 21:30 < Gracenotes> O_O
2008-01-15 21:30 * Gracenotes runs away
2008-01-15 21:31 < quanticle> Gracenotes: plankton --> krill --> little fish --> tuna
2008-01-15 21:31 * brown_cat cuddles Gracenotes
2008-01-15 21:31 < uberpenguin> if you really want some awful toxic chemicals, just let me know and I can get you some good stuff
2008-01-15 21:31 < Messedrocker> is plankton the autotroph?
2008-01-15 21:31 < Messedrocker> uberpenguin, mercury is fine thanks
2008-01-15 21:31 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Phytoplankton, yeah
2008-01-15 21:31 < geniice> to be honest though the simplest way to get a jar of the stuff would be to nab it from your local uni mine had them just sitting around the lab
2008-01-15 21:32 < Messedrocker> geniice, where in northeastern New Jersey is there going to be a MINE
2008-01-15 21:32 < quanticle> geniice: They do tend to call the cops, though, when one goes missing
2008-01-15 21:33 * Gracenotes assuages Messedrocker's anger with a http://www.google.com/search?q=tertiary+consumer+site%3A.edu
2008-01-15 21:33 < uberpenguin> in that case just go back to collecting the old thermostats
2008-01-15 21:33 < Messedrocker> i think mercury is too cool to give up an opportunity to play with
2008-01-15 21:33 < Messedrocker> i'm not angry
2008-01-15 21:33 < uberpenguin> there's a reasonable amount of mercury in those
2008-01-15 21:33 < Gracenotes> :P
2008-01-15 21:33 < quanticle> Messedrocker: You're in Jersey? How do you have trouble procuring harmful chemicals?! Your state is practically on giant dump!
2008-01-15 21:33 < quanticle> :)
2008-01-15 21:33 < Messedrocker> quanticle, yes, i know that much
2008-01-15 21:33 < Messedrocker> if i want mercury i could just dig in the ground :D
2008-01-15 21:33 < Messedrocker> but you're asking about a mine
2008-01-15 21:33 < geniice> Dimethylmercury will set you back £145.00 for 10G at 95% purity
2008-01-15 21:34 < Messedrocker> i don't want dimethyl mercury
2008-01-15 21:34 < Messedrocker> i want the liquid metal
2008-01-15 21:34 < quanticle> geniice: Right, but that stuff is even more poisonous...
2008-01-15 21:34 * Krimpet gets mercury from a mime
2008-01-15 21:34 < geniice> Messedrocker try gallium
2008-01-15 21:34 < Messedrocker> gallium's a solid though
2008-01-15 21:34 * quanticle wonders about the MIME type of mercury
2008-01-15 21:34 < Krimpet> he breaks open his invisible thermometer and mercury flows out
2008-01-15 21:34 < geniice> Messedrocker not if you hold it
2008-01-15 21:34 < Messedrocker> oh?
2008-01-15 21:35 < Messedrocker> krimpet, i thought thermometers weren't made of mercury anymore
2008-01-15 21:35 < SNORLAX> melts in your hand so you don't have to eat it
2008-01-15 21:35 < quanticle> geniice: Is gallium as toxic as mercury?
2008-01-15 21:35 < Messedrocker> but some red stuff instead
2008-01-15 21:35 < geniice> Messedrocker melts at about 30 degrees C
2008-01-15 21:35 < geniice> quanticle no
2008-01-15 21:35 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Red stuff?
2008-01-15 21:35 < geniice> quanticle they mean dyed alcherhol
2008-01-15 21:36 < Messedrocker> geniice, i'm not going to try to turn up the heat
2008-01-15 21:36 < quanticle> geniice: Oh. That red stuff...
2008-01-15 21:36 < geniice> Messedrocker you still get murcury thermometers where you need to be acurate to the degree
2008-01-15 21:36 < geniice> Messedrocker 30 degress C is below your body temp
2008-01-15 21:36 < SNORLAX> 30 c is 86 f
2008-01-15 21:37 < quanticle> Messedrocker: 30 degrees C = 86 degrees F
2008-01-15 21:37 < quanticle> Just hold it in a closed fist and it'll melt
2008-01-15 21:37 < geniice> pluss you can get the stuff to stay liquid below that temp but not so easy
2008-01-15 21:38 < geniice> Messedrocker> or technicaly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galinstan
2008-01-15 21:38 < uberpenguin> hm... we have a lot of trimethyl gallium around here...
2008-01-15 21:39 < Dtobias> If you're on Mercury, on the side of it facing the Sun, all of that stuff will melt easily.
2008-01-15 21:39 < Messedrocker> what's so damn unrealistic about playing with mercury while being extensively protected from it?
2008-01-15 21:39 < Dtobias> Maybe a Mercury car would even melt on Mercury.
2008-01-15 21:40 < geniice> Messedrocker it isn't as fun
2008-01-15 21:40 < Messedrocker> well what kind of gloves would i have to wear?
2008-01-15 21:40 < geniice> you can't trust cloves
2008-01-15 21:40 < geniice> gloves
2008-01-15 21:41 < Dtobias> Slithy toves
2008-01-15 21:41 < Krimpet> kid gloves?
2008-01-15 21:41 < Messedrocker> well WHAT COULD i wear on my hands
2008-01-15 21:41 < Messedrocker> no
2008-01-15 21:41 < Dtobias> grownup gloves?
2008-01-15 21:41 * Messedrocker is whistling music from SMB2 for some reason
2008-01-15 21:41 < Tony_Sidaway> Stay away from the Mercury, folks. A liquid metal that's near its melting point will tend to get *everywhere*.
2008-01-15 21:41 < Tony_Sidaway> s/melting/boiling/
2008-01-15 21:41 < SNORLAX> if Messedrocker was sponsored by the make a wish foundation his wish would be to play with mercury
2008-01-15 21:42 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-01-15 21:42 < quanticle> Tony_Sidaway: What's the boiling point of mercury?
2008-01-15 21:42 < Dtobias> Mad Magazine has a "Make a Stupid Wish Foundation" on its letter page.
2008-01-15 21:42 < geniice> Messedrocker stuck with this http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/thermo/liquid_metal/liquid_metal.html
2008-01-15 21:42 < Krimpet> stay away from Freddie Mercury too folks, or he will rock you
2008-01-15 21:42 < Tony_Sidaway> What is SMB2? What is Make a wish foundation? I'm on my second half century but I sometimes feel like I was half asleep during the first 50 years.
2008-01-15 21:43 < quanticle> Tony_Sidaway: SMB2 = Super Mario Bros. 2
2008-01-15 21:43 < geniice> quanticle 356.73 °C
2008-01-15 21:44 < Gracenotes> I think Messedrocker needs a life-threatening illness first
2008-01-15 21:44 < Messedrocker> mercury poisoning?
2008-01-15 21:44 < Gracenotes> and then request mercury to play with from the Make a Wish foundation. Touching.
2008-01-15 21:44 < geniice> yes liquid metals are cool but there are safer options than mercury and you would be wise to take them
2008-01-15 21:44 < gwern> 'Stay warm this winter with all the latest Firefox gear from the Mozilla Store.' <-- ...
2008-01-15 21:45 < geniice> and Caesium isn't one of them
2008-01-15 21:45 < Tony_Sidaway> What is Super Mario Bros?
2008-01-15 21:45 < Dtobias> Print out the Firefox source code and burn it to stay warm.
2008-01-15 21:45 < quanticle> The MacBook Air has no ethernet ports? WTF?
2008-01-15 21:45 < geniice> night
2008-01-15 21:45 < Messedrocker> Tony_Sidaway, video game franchise created by Japanese video game company Nintendo
2008-01-15 21:45 < Messedrocker> a "video game" is a form of entertainment whereby a specialized computer is plugged into a television
2008-01-15 21:46 < digwuren> quanticle: It's a portless portable.
2008-01-15 21:46 < digwuren> quanticle: (Not to be confused with a potent potable.)
2008-01-15 21:46 < Tony_Sidaway> Oh that's the one with the plumber in the flat cap who jumps over barrels thrown by a gigantic ape?
2008-01-15 21:46 < quanticle> Tony_Sidaway: Now you're just trolling
2008-01-15 21:47 < Tony_Sidaway> I could never see the attraction of that versus, say, Tempest, or Dig Dug.
2008-01-15 21:47 < uberpenguin> video games don't require a computer per se, though I can only think of a few counterexamples
2008-01-15 21:47 < Gracenotes> omg I love Pitfall II <3
2008-01-15 21:47 < Messedrocker> uberpenguin, the console itself is a specialized computer
2008-01-15 21:47 < quanticle> digwuren: Still, I have to question the lack of Ethernet. Will people really accept the speed hit that comes from being confined to wireless
2008-01-15 21:47 < Tony_Sidaway> quanticle: not trolling. a lot of this stuff is a far away memory for me. I believe Mario was a character in Donkey Kong.
2008-01-15 21:48 < digwuren> quanticle: Probably.
2008-01-15 21:48 < Messedrocker> Tony_Sidaway, he was. He was such a hit he was spun off into an arcade game called "Mario Bros."
2008-01-15 21:48 < quanticle> Tony_Sidaway: True. He's had his own series for nigh on 20 years now
2008-01-15 21:48 < Messedrocker> which was then followed up by the famous video game "Super Mario Bros." for the Nintendo Family Computer (Famicom)
2008-01-15 21:48 < Tony_Sidaway> Tempest is reallyu one of my favorite games ever. And Gravitar.
2008-01-15 21:48 < Tony_Sidaway> And what was the one where you had to rescue earth people from the aliens?
2008-01-15 21:48 < Messedrocker> or as the rest of the world knows it as, the Nintendo Entertainment Syste
2008-01-15 21:48 < Messedrocker> System
2008-01-15 21:49 < quanticle> digwuren: I thought this thing was pretty cool when I saw it, but the more I read about it, the worse it seems. The story of most Apple products, alas...
2008-01-15 21:49 < uberpenguin> Messedrocker: yes, but Pong didn't contain a computer
2008-01-15 21:50 < uberpenguin> also, tempest is an awesome game
2008-01-15 21:50 < Tony_Sidaway> Oh, Defender.
2008-01-15 21:50 < Messedrocker> uberpenguin, you could argue that it was indeed a computer
2008-01-15 21:50 < Xihix> Can anyone help prep me for the geography bowl tomorrow?
2008-01-15 21:50 < Tony_Sidaway> Defender was the rescue game. I was hopeless at it but it was still a lovely game.
2008-01-15 21:51 < Messedrocker> Tony_Sidaway, too many video games are now about the carnal murder of others.
2008-01-15 21:51 < Krimpet> uberpenguin: "computer" is pretty vague, though
2008-01-15 21:51 < quanticle> Xihix: Sure, what's the capital of Slovakia?
2008-01-15 21:51 < uberpenguin> Messedrocker: not by modern standards
2008-01-15 21:51 < Tony_Sidaway> Messedrocker: I blame Pacman. Those poor ghosts!
2008-01-15 21:51 < Xihix> uhh
2008-01-15 21:52 < Xihix> shit.
2008-01-15 21:52 < Xihix> Ok, guys, help me with this
2008-01-15 21:52 < Xihix> I don't want to lose to 7th and 6th graders
2008-01-15 21:52 < Messedrocker> Xihix, when I was in the 6th grade, I won second place in the Geography Bee
2008-01-15 21:52 < Dtobias> How come eating the power pill makes the ghosts change color? It would make more sense for the pill to change the Pac-Man, but not others.
2008-01-15 21:52 < kenlyric> that's why they put you up against fifth graders
2008-01-15 21:52 < Messedrocker> I lost to a 4th grader
2008-01-15 21:52 < Tony_Sidaway> it's ridiculous. The "computers" I used to work with in the 1970s were barely powerful enough to count as digital watches by modern standards.
2008-01-15 21:52 < Xihix> err
2008-01-15 21:53 < uberpenguin> if you're concerned about losing to 7th graders I suggest finding a new hobby
2008-01-15 21:53 < Messedrocker> i was 11
2008-01-15 21:53 < Messedrocker> he was 9
2008-01-15 21:53 < uberpenguin> seriously
2008-01-15 21:53 < Tony_Sidaway> I mean, college mainframes and minis, they were very low power by modern standards.
2008-01-15 21:53 < Xihix> I'm in 8th grade uberpenguin. by the scale of middle school, I have to be the smartest.
2008-01-15 21:53 < Xihix> It would be embarressing to lose to them.
2008-01-15 21:53 < uberpenguin> you're not entering a spelling bee any time soon are you?
2008-01-15 21:54 < SNORLAX> ruined
2008-01-15 21:54 < Xihix> :P
2008-01-15 21:54 < digwuren> Tony_Sidaway: Low-power? To the contrary!
2008-01-15 21:54 < Leslie_S> spelling bees are surprisingly difficult
2008-01-15 21:54 < Dtobias> Kellie Pickler isn't smarter than a fifth grader. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lmgNqFuXwc
2008-01-15 21:54 < Xihix> No, spelling is not my strong point
2008-01-15 21:54 < digwuren> Tony_Sidaway: A mainframe could eat up the power of a whole town!
2008-01-15 21:54 < Leslie_S> i lost on my first word in the last one i was in! :(
2008-01-15 21:54 < Xihix> geography, for the most part, is
2008-01-15 21:54 < Tony_Sidaway> I am useless at all games. When I play Quake, I play in solo mode and I hide behind things and try to persuade the monsters to kill one another.
2008-01-15 21:54 < Xihix> eastern europe and south east asia
2008-01-15 21:54 < uberpenguin> Tony_Sidaway: without getting too nerdy, let's say that the best way to define a computer is probably as "a programmable machine"
2008-01-15 21:54 < Xihix> those two places kill me
2008-01-15 21:54 < quanticle> Messedrocker: I won my school geopgraphy bee and went to state in 7th and 8th grades
2008-01-15 21:54 < Messedrocker> Tony_Sidaway, in Bioshock, with the appropriate powerup, you CAN convince the monsters to hurt one another
2008-01-15 21:54 < Messedrocker> only the monsters are deranged people!
2008-01-15 21:55 < Messedrocker> hmmm... i think it's a plasmid
2008-01-15 21:55 < Tony_Sidaway> Messedrocker: you can do that in Quake, which is why I love it.
2008-01-15 21:55 < Dtobias> uberpenguin: The [[Turing machine]] is the classic example.
2008-01-15 21:55 < quanticle> Xihix: did you answer the question?
2008-01-15 21:55 < uberpenguin> Dtobias: ... thanks, I know Church-Turing
2008-01-15 21:55 < Xihix> slovakia?
2008-01-15 21:55 < quanticle> Yeah
2008-01-15 21:55 < Xihix> Bratislavia
2008-01-15 21:55 < Xihix> eh?
2008-01-15 21:56 < quanticle> Yep
2008-01-15 21:56 < quanticle> What's the capital of Poland?
2008-01-15 21:56 < uberpenguin> I should've known that despite my efforts to stick to a simple, un-nerdy, but largely correct defintion would be thwarted by pure geek enthusiasm
2008-01-15 21:56 < uberpenguin> hm... that sentence malfunctioned
2008-01-15 21:56 * Gracenotes reboots uberpenguin
2008-01-15 21:56 < Xihix> poland?
2008-01-15 21:56 < Xihix> hmm
2008-01-15 21:57 < Gracenotes> don't forget it
2008-01-15 21:57 < uberpenguin> that's an easy one
2008-01-15 21:57 < Xihix> i remember a funny name.
2008-01-15 21:57 < uberpenguin> well... a polish name
2008-01-15 21:57 < Messedrocker> quanticle, warsaw
2008-01-15 21:57 < Xihix> hmm
2008-01-15 21:57 < Xihix> weesaw
2008-01-15 21:57 < Messedrocker> i didn't look that up, either
2008-01-15 21:57 < Xihix> yeah warsaw
2008-01-15 21:57 < quanticle> Messedrocker: You gave away the anwser
2008-01-15 21:57 < Xihix> lol
2008-01-15 21:57 < quanticle> *answer
2008-01-15 21:57 < Xihix> just ask another one
2008-01-15 21:57 < uberpenguin> what's the capital of djbouti?
2008-01-15 21:57 < quanticle> uberpengiun: nice
2008-01-15 21:58 < Xihix> djbouti
2008-01-15 21:58 < uberpenguin> HAHAHAHA IT NEVER GETS OLD
2008-01-15 21:58 < Xihix> lol
2008-01-15 21:58 < quanticle> Xihix: What's the capital of the Philippines?
2008-01-15 21:58 < uberpenguin> sorry, my emotional and psychological development stopped c.a. age 15
2008-01-15 21:58 < Xihix> Philipenia
2008-01-15 21:58 < uberpenguin> ahaha
2008-01-15 21:58 < Messedrocker> What's the capital of Mejetzfeld?
2008-01-15 21:58 < quanticle> Xihix: Nope
2008-01-15 21:58 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - welcome to the Internet.
2008-01-15 21:58 < Gracenotes> bzzzzzzzzt
2008-01-15 21:58 < Xihix> yeah, figured.
2008-01-15 21:58 < quanticle> Xihix: Try a type of envelope
2008-01-15 21:59 < Ceiling_Cat> anyone in the mood for #trivia ?
2008-01-15 21:59 < uberpenguin> Ceiling_Cat: YOU
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> uhh
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> hmm...
2008-01-15 21:59 < uberpenguin> Ceiling_Cat: I asked my physicist friend about N-body problems and quantum chemistry
2008-01-15 21:59 < quanticle> Xihix: Or folder
2008-01-15 21:59 < Ceiling_Cat> #trivia <-- go go go
2008-01-15 21:59 < Tony_Sidaway> anybody know what's up with the search system on English Wikipedia? I run search bots but they're not turning up new material for the past four or five days, which is very unusual.
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> I didn't know there were such things
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> Minila?
2008-01-15 21:59 < Ceiling_Cat> Xihix - that's manila
2008-01-15 21:59 < quanticle> Xihix: Close enough
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> err, that.
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> What is it?
2008-01-15 21:59 < quanticle> Manila
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> seriously?
2008-01-15 21:59 < quanticle> Xihix: Yeah
2008-01-15 21:59 < Xihix> sweet, I guessed that.
2008-01-15 21:59 < Ceiling_Cat> last chance? #trivia ?
2008-01-15 22:00 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: I'm in
2008-01-15 22:00 < Xihix> nah Raul, we're prepping me for the geography bowl.
2008-01-15 22:00 < Zach> haha princess leia was on american idol
2008-01-15 22:00 < Xihix> more capitals!!
2008-01-15 22:00 < quanticle> Xihix: Go to ##quanticle
2008-01-15 22:00 < quanticle> I don't want to flood this place
2008-01-15 22:00 < quanticle> Others interested in geo-trivia can come too
2008-01-15 22:01 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-15 22:01 < Ceiling_Cat> #trivia dammit!
2008-01-15 22:02 < uberpenguin> by what name do you refer to Myanmar if you're George W. Bush?
2008-01-15 22:02 < Messedrocker> MOOOO
2008-01-15 22:02 < Gracenotes> Burma!
2008-01-15 22:02 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - siam
2008-01-15 22:02 < Gracenotes> oh, really? :<
2008-01-15 22:02 < uberpenguin> you nerds watch too much TV
2008-01-15 22:02 < Gracenotes> quanticle: I have the list of world capitals, US state capitals, and chemical elements, in a standardized format
2008-01-15 22:02 < uberpenguin> and Raul doesn't watch enough
2008-01-15 22:02 < kenlyric> hmmmm, free itunes versions of movies when you buy the dvd version.
2008-01-15 22:02 < kenlyric> hot and smart.
2008-01-15 22:02 < Gracenotes> easy convertible into trivia questions :)
2008-01-15 22:03 < uberpenguin> Africa is also known as "the scary part of Epcot"
2008-01-15 22:03 * Ceiling_Cat sighs
2008-01-15 22:03 < Ceiling_Cat> nobody wants to play trivia
2008-01-15 22:03 < uberpenguin> honda needs to hurry up and start selling that diesel accord of theirs in the states
2008-01-15 22:04 < Lycurgus> mehbe they was trivialized enuf
2008-01-15 22:04 < uberpenguin> I'm gonna be all over that
2008-01-15 22:04 < Lycurgus> ur done
2008-01-15 22:04 < Lycurgus> ur toast
2008-01-15 22:04 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, your punchline is brilliant
2008-01-15 22:06 < Ceiling_Cat> punchline?
2008-01-15 22:06 * NotACow punches you in the line.
2008-01-15 22:07 * Messedrocker casts 350,000 votes for George W. Bush to piss everyone off, including himself
2008-01-15 22:08 < Zach> the ACLU is defending Larry Craig
2008-01-15 22:09 < uberpenguin> I read that as something like "you cast 350,000 volts at george w. bush ..."
2008-01-15 22:09 < Zach> saying the MSP police violated his "right to privacy"
2008-01-15 22:09 < Messedrocker> awww
2008-01-15 22:09 < Messedrocker> the cats have come to hang out with me!
2008-01-15 22:09 < Lycurgus> i think his right to privacy ended at the edge of his stall
2008-01-15 22:09 < Messedrocker> they are mesmerized by this newly finished basement
2008-01-15 22:10 < quanticle> Messedrocker: They didn't already explore it?
2008-01-15 22:10 < Messedrocker> they may have
2008-01-15 22:11 < Messedrocker> however she looks like she's never seen it before
2008-01-15 22:11 < quanticle> Messedrocker: I would be rather surprised if they hadn't
2008-01-15 22:11 < Messedrocker> it's been finished for four hours
2008-01-15 22:11 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Oh. They might not have explored it then...
2008-01-15 22:12 < Mahlzahn_> mew
2008-01-15 22:12 < Messedrocker> the basement used to be finished, then a flood wrecked it, and now it has been recarpeted
2008-01-15 22:13 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Ouch. Did you have insurance?
2008-01-15 22:13 < Messedrocker> nothing was destroyed
2008-01-15 22:14 < quanticle> Messedrocker: You couldn't claim the destroyed carpet?
2008-01-15 22:14 < Messedrocker> it was something like 13 or 14 years old
2008-01-15 22:14 < quanticle> Messedrocker: So?
2008-01-15 22:14 < Messedrocker> i dunno
2008-01-15 22:15 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Doesn't mean it was worthless
2008-01-15 22:15 < Messedrocker> i don't know if the carpet was insured or not
2008-01-15 22:16 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Doesn't flood insurance cover carpeting?
2008-01-15 22:22 * Messedrocker plays the air bass
2008-01-15 22:22 < Leslie_S> whats the diff between that and air guitar
2008-01-15 22:23 < Leslie_S> i dont recall string count or song significantly mattering.
2008-01-15 22:23 < Messedrocker> air bass is inconceivably stupid
2008-01-15 22:23 < quanticle> Leslie_S: You're holding your hands farther apart (I'm assuming acoustic bass).
2008-01-15 22:23 < Messedrocker> no, electric
2008-01-15 22:24 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Then the hand positions are the same as with electric guitar
2008-01-15 22:26 < uberpenguin> everyone knows that the air instrument of champions is the theremin
2008-01-15 22:32 < Tony_Sidaway> Bass is not a plucking instrument, usually. Long neck, lovely sound.
2008-01-15 22:32 < Leslie_S> bass is not a plucking instrument?
2008-01-15 22:33 < Leslie_S> how do you play it then? :o :o
2008-01-15 22:33 < Leslie_S> i thought it was the same as guitar except...its a bass.
2008-01-15 22:35 < ancjr> you play bass any way you want to
2008-01-15 22:35 < Tony_Sidaway> You can pluck it, but strumming and plucking is also common.
2008-01-15 22:35 < ancjr> pick, pluck, slap, tap
2008-01-15 22:35 < Tony_Sidaway> slapping
2008-01-15 22:36 < Leslie_S> strumming?
2008-01-15 22:36 < Leslie_S> what exactly is strumming anyway
2008-01-15 22:36 < ancjr> less common, but possible
2008-01-15 22:36 < Leslie_S> so it IS just like the guitar..
2008-01-15 22:36 < ancjr> playng by stroking aross all the strings
2008-01-15 22:36 < Leslie_S> ah
2008-01-15 22:36 < Tony_Sidaway> Leslie_S: like a guitar with balls :)
2008-01-15 22:36 < Leslie_S> heh.
2008-01-15 22:37 < Leslie_S> i want ernie ball hybrid strings for my guitar :o
2008-01-15 22:37 < Leslie_S> its only like $9
2008-01-15 22:37 < ancjr> good bass strings start @ $20
2008-01-15 22:38 < Leslie_S> ancjr: i dont play the bass.
2008-01-15 22:38 < Leslie_S> ancjr: i play the guitar.
2008-01-15 22:38 < ancjr> but they last longer than a similarly played set of guitar strings
2008-01-15 22:38 < ancjr> i play bass
2008-01-15 22:38 < Leslie_S> ancjr do they last longer because theyre thicker?
2008-01-15 22:38 < quanticle> Leslie_S: What's the advantage of hybrid strings?
2008-01-15 22:38 < ancjr> yeah, more durable
2008-01-15 22:39 < Leslie_S> quanticle the bass strings are heavier gauge than normal, but the treble strings are normal.
2008-01-15 22:39 < Leslie_S> so its a hybrid between heavier and normal strings.
2008-01-15 22:39 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Doesn't that make the bass strings lower in pitch?
2008-01-15 22:40 < ancjr> the tension + scale length determines the pitch
2008-01-15 22:40 < ancjr> not the diameter
2008-01-15 22:40 < ancjr> the tonality is different with a larger gauge
2008-01-15 22:41 < Leslie_S> but heavier strings are harder to play, especially for things like bends.
2008-01-15 22:41 < Leslie_S> quanticle, also, you have to remember that the bass strings are always a heavier gauge than the light strings anyway.
2008-01-15 22:42 < quanticle> Leslie_S: But heavier strings are more durable?
2008-01-15 22:42 < Leslie_S> quanticle, thats not the reason for hybrid strings.
2008-01-15 22:42 < Leslie_S> ancjr, what exactly is tonality?
2008-01-15 22:42 < uberpenguin> strings are passe
2008-01-15 22:43 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin laser guitar?
2008-01-15 22:43 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-01-15 22:43 < Tony_Sidaway> I think it's what is commonly known as timbre.
2008-01-15 22:43 < Leslie_S> whats timbre?
2008-01-15 22:43 < Tony_Sidaway> harmonic signature.
2008-01-15 22:43 < Rinn> What a lumberjack shouts when he's about to cut down a tree.
2008-01-15 22:43 < Leslie_S> ...
2008-01-15 22:44 < Leslie_S> Tony_Sidaway i do kinda understand the sound thing though
2008-01-15 22:44 < Messedrocker> TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMBEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
2008-01-15 22:44 < Tony_Sidaway> Instruments dont generate pure tones, but an envelope of tones. The shape of the envelope is the timbre.
2008-01-15 22:44 < Tony_Sidaway> The unique voice of the instrument.
2008-01-15 22:44 < quanticle> Messedrocker: You mean TIMBRRRRRRRRRRRRRE
2008-01-15 22:45 < Leslie_S> Tony_Sidaway: for example, when tuning a guitar, each string should be the same pitch when played open, as the next higher string on the 5th fret.
2008-01-15 22:45 < Leslie_S> Tony_Sidaway, so i can kinda hear the difference there.
2008-01-15 22:45 < Leslie_S> and hmm, i said that backwards
2008-01-15 22:46 < Tony_Sidaway> Yeah but I know what you mean.
2008-01-15 22:46 < Leslie_S> waiit
2008-01-15 22:46 < Leslie_S> did i try that backwards too
2008-01-15 22:46 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-15 22:47 < Leslie_S> a string played open should sound the same as the next LOWER string played on the 5th fret.
2008-01-15 22:47 < Leslie_S> and to make it worse, treble strings are on the bottom of the guitar... :P
2008-01-15 22:47 < Messedrocker> peter frampton plugs his guitar into his vocoder
2008-01-15 22:47 < Messedrocker> what else does he do?
2008-01-15 22:47 < Messedrocker> what does he do with his microphone
2008-01-15 22:48 < uberpenguin> weird definition of "envelope" used in music...
2008-01-15 22:50 < Icewedge> I like goats.
2008-01-15 22:51 < Messedrocker> But do you like Goat Seas?
2008-01-15 22:52 < Icewedge> not particularly.
2008-01-15 22:52 < Icewedge> but... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_sex
2008-01-15 22:53 < Gracenotes> omg shock site link, ban
2008-01-15 22:53 < Icewedge> sorry i did not see that picture
2008-01-15 22:54 < Icewedge> it was not their last time
2008-01-15 22:54 < Icewedge> I have removed
2008-01-15 22:54 < Icewedge> it
2008-01-15 22:55 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-01-15 22:55 < Leslie_S> i love how you used the reason of "removed porn"
2008-01-15 22:55 < Rinn> There's a picture?
2008-01-15 22:55 * Rinn clicks
2008-01-15 22:55 < quanticle> Rinn: NO!
2008-01-15 22:55 < Leslie_S> yeah, theres a really old looking painting of a guy fucking a goat.
2008-01-15 22:55 < Leslie_S> its nothing too horrible to look at
2008-01-15 22:55 < Leslie_S> but...why the hell would someone make that picture
2008-01-15 22:55 < Leslie_S> :o
2008-01-15 22:55 < Rinn> [[Image:Édouard-Henri Avril (28).jpg]]
2008-01-15 22:56 < Icewedge> Its one of my friends that keeps adding that picture =/
2008-01-15 22:56 < Leslie_S> and apparently its a lithograph, not painting
2008-01-15 22:56 < quanticle> Leslie_S: What's the difference?
2008-01-15 22:58 < Rinn> [[Image:Mercury god.jpg]] ho ho ho
2008-01-15 22:59 < quanticle> Heh, look at this: http://www.economist.com/images/ga/2008w03/CGA622B.gif <-- CitiGroup's net earnings over the past decade
2008-01-15 23:00 < Icewedge> oops =0
2008-01-15 23:01 < Luna-San> Hoooly crap
2008-01-15 23:01 < quanticle> Yeah, that's what the shareholders said
2008-01-15 23:08 < Zach> actor != character: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Happy_%28dog_actor%29
2008-01-15 23:14 < Leslie_S> he term mud volcano or mud dome is used to refer to formations created by geologically excreted liquids and gases, although there are several different processes which may cause such activity.
2008-01-15 23:14 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-01-15 23:15 < Leslie_S> geologically excreted lol.
2008-01-15 23:15 < Leslie_S> anyway, im going to bed. night
2008-01-15 23:21 < Zach> SD redirect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2008_January_16#Jewish_hell_.E2.86.92_Bankruptcy
2008-01-15 23:23 < Zach> hm, there's no [[WP:SD]] rule about attack redirects
2008-01-15 23:24 < gurch> yes there is
2008-01-15 23:25 < gurch> how does G10 not apply to redirects?
2008-01-15 23:25 < gurch> or G3, for that matter
2008-01-15 23:25 < Zach> oh, i was looking at the Rs
2008-01-15 23:25 < Zach> for Redirect
2008-01-15 23:26 < gurch> the general ones apply to any pages
2008-01-15 23:27 < datura> moin
2008-01-15 23:29 < bumm13> Messedrocker: technically, Frampton used a [[talk box]]
2008-01-15 23:30 < Zach> bumm13, he left
2008-01-15 23:32 < bumm13> ah yes, he did
2008-01-15 23:32 < bumm13> *le shrug*
2008-01-15 23:32 < IceKarma> bumm13, the captions even identify it
2008-01-15 23:33 < bumm13> ah
2008-01-15 23:36 < bumm13> [[Valspeak]] <-- wtf?
2008-01-15 23:39 < quanticle> bumm13: Its, like, y'know, ebonics or whatever
2008-01-15 23:44 * IceKarma gives quanticle three points for his outstanding punctuation.
2008-01-15 23:44 * quanticle relinquishes one point for a missed period
2008-01-15 23:44 < amidaniel|away> Lmao ... why does Bush screw up *every* press conference he holds?
2008-01-15 23:44 < amidaniel|away> It's so embarassing
2008-01-15 23:45 < quanticle> amidaniel|away: The man is simply not a good public speaker. I'm convinced he has stage fright or something.
2008-01-15 23:45 < amidaniel|away> Well, he doesn't seem nervous
2008-01-15 23:45 < amidaniel|away> Just awkward
2008-01-15 23:46 < amidaniel|away> You'd have to think he's done enough public speaking at this point to be comfortable with it
2008-01-15 23:46 < uberpenguin> it's all misdirection... he makes you concentrate on how stupid HE is rather than how stupid the content of the speech is
2008-01-15 23:46 < amidaniel|away> Lol, ah, i c :)
2008-01-15 23:46 < uberpenguin> I know a guy who met Bush and had to endure his small talk for a while
2008-01-15 23:46 < quanticle> uberpenguin: Not really. The stupidity of the content is only amplified by the stupidity of the presentation.
2008-01-15 23:47 < quanticle> uberpenguin: Is Bush any better in person?
2008-01-15 23:47 < uberpenguin> uhh...
2008-01-15 23:47 < uberpenguin> well let me put it this way
2008-01-15 23:47 < uberpenguin> Bush was giving out the National Science Awards
2008-01-15 23:48 < uberpenguin> so he's in a room full of rather smart people... the guy I know, one of the guys I work for, this physicist who is a huge name in condensed matter
2008-01-15 23:48 < uberpenguin> and the conversation he struck up was about the Atlanta Braves
2008-01-15 23:48 < uberpenguin> as a segue into talking about when he owned the Rangers
2008-01-15 23:49 < uberpenguin> the guy told me this story with a smirk on his face and finished it with something like "we just didn't know what to say"
2008-01-15 23:49 < quanticle> uberpenguin: To be fair, I would have probably turned the conversation to weather or sports myself. Better to stick to neutral subjects rather than risk making yourself look like a *complete* idiot...
2008-01-15 23:50 < uberpenguin> maybe, but after giving these people an award for science I would at least think to show an interest in them and ask them what they do
2008-01-15 23:50 < uberpenguin> but that's me
2008-01-15 23:50 < uberpenguin> I've never owned a MLB team, so my perspective on small talk is a lot different
2008-01-15 23:51 < Demi> the bush dyslexicon is a pretty good examination of bush's speaking style and what it might say about him
2008-01-15 23:51 < quanticle> uberpenguin: Yeah. To be fair, I would have asked for a simple explanation, but that's just because I have a passing interest in Physics. I know lots of people for whom any mention of physics causes immediate sleepiness and glazing of eyes
2008-01-15 23:53 < ronabop> I wonder if he talks about the standard model when he meets baseball players?
2008-01-15 23:54 < quanticle> ronabop: It would make as much sense as anything else he does...
2008-01-15 23:54 < uberpenguin> I dunno
2008-01-15 23:54 < uberpenguin> the guy who told me this story is quite nice and reserved and apolitical for the most part
2008-01-15 23:54 < uberpenguin> I can tell there's more than he finds funny about this, but he isn't telling
2008-01-15 23:54 < Demi> and apparently doesn't know anything about baseball
2008-01-15 23:55 < uberpenguin> no, not really
2008-01-15 23:55 < bumm13> to be fair, Bush probably just doesn't know much outside of being groomed by his elitist family
2008-01-15 23:55 < bumm13> (or using drugs once :P )
2008-01-15 23:55 < uberpenguin> though he has traveled to more places than anyone else I know
2008-01-15 23:55 < bumm13> so he talks baseball
2008-01-15 23:55 < uberpenguin> the guy has been everywhere
2008-01-15 23:55 < quanticle> uberpenguin: Before, or after his presidency?
2008-01-15 23:55 < Demi> well-traveled people are pretty neat to talk to
2008-01-15 23:56 < uberpenguin> huh?
2008-01-15 23:56 < bumm13> Demi: well, mostly, perhaps
2008-01-15 23:56 < quanticle> Demi: If they don't talk about baseball
2008-01-15 23:56 < bumm13> some clearly wouldn't be
2008-01-15 23:56 < quanticle> uberpenguin: During his presidency, I mean. I'm getting ahead of myself.
2008-01-15 23:56 < uberpenguin> Bush was giving out the National Medal of Technology... this is during his presidency
2008-01-15 23:56 < uberpenguin> http://www.gatech.edu/news-room/release.php?id=210
2008-01-15 23:57 < uberpenguin> that's not the guy who told me the story, but that's one of the people I work under who got the same medal
2008-01-15 23:57 < ronabop> Just going places is not enough to make one "well traveled". Just "traveled".
2008-01-15 23:57 < Demi> well, i'm probably imagining a more specific definition of well-traveled; there are people who have been in a lot of countries but haven't traveled much, i guess
2008-01-15 23:57 < quanticle> ronabop: What's the difference between "well-traveled" and "traveled"?
2008-01-15 23:57 < uberpenguin> oh... that article has a picture of Morgan too...
2008-01-15 23:58 < Demi> quanticle - interest and perspicacity, probably
2008-01-15 23:58 < uberpenguin> Demi: yeah, he's EXTREMELY cool to talk to
2008-01-15 23:58 < quanticle> Demi: So going to a lot of boring places just makes you traveled?
2008-01-15 23:58 < uberpenguin> last time I talked with him he was telling me about being in Sweden and jumping into a hole in the ice after sitting in a sauna for an hour
2008-01-15 23:58 < uberpenguin> and then doing it again
2008-01-15 23:59 < IceKarma> I heard two amusing mispronounciations in TV ads today
2008-01-15 23:59 < Demi> there's a kind of person who "travels" by staying at the hotel airport, taking the bus package, sticking to places that speak english and so forth
2008-01-15 23:59 < uberpenguin> apparently if you can manage not to die within the first two seconds or so after hitting the water, you're fine
2008-01-15 23:59 < IceKarma> Demi, I'm not even traveled in that limited definition, although I have a lot of miles on me.
2008-01-16 00:00 < IceKarma> the first was an ad for a culinary school, throughout which "culinary" was pronounced as if it were "coolinary"
2008-01-16 00:00 < Demi> IceKarma - i'm sure a new belt and you'll run like new for a while
2008-01-16 00:00 < digwuren> IceKarma: That's the problem. You must be staying in areas that are full of miles.
2008-01-16 00:00 < ronabop> If the place was interesting, like say, CERN, but your idea of passing time there was talking about your.... baseball team.
2008-01-16 00:00 < digwuren> IceKarma: You've never met a true kilometre, right?
2008-01-16 00:00 < Demi> quanticle - i'm not sure there are any truly boring places, but there certainly are boring people
2008-01-16 00:00 < IceKarma> I wasn't paying enough attention to the second ad to notice what it was for, but someone clearly said "jubulant"
2008-01-16 00:01 < Demi> ah, jubulant is of a class
2008-01-16 00:01 < IceKarma> digwuren, two out of the three countries I've been resident in have been metric
2008-01-16 00:01 < Demi> i can't think of other examples right at the moment, but it seems like it's part of a pattern
2008-01-16 00:01 < IceKarma> Demi, and it wasn't even a short u, it was "joob-yo-lant"
2008-01-16 00:01 < IceKarma> s/yo/yoo/
2008-01-16 00:02 < bumm13> arg
2008-01-16 00:02 < Demi> right, that's how i read it, i know exactly what you mean
2008-01-16 00:02 < uberpenguin> this is a REALLY cool paper, if any of you want a nice bedtime reader: http://lanoswww.epfl.ch/studinfo/courses/cours_nonlinear_de/extras/De_Feo(2003)_Bifurcations%20in%20the%20Colpitts%20Oscillator_From%20Theory%20to%20Practice.pdf
2008-01-16 00:02 < IceKarma> digwuren, including the country I currently reside in, which is also my country of origin
2008-01-16 00:03 * ronabop does *not* like bifurcations. That's why he avoids wearing pants.
2008-01-16 00:03 < Ceiling_Cat> Hello folks
2008-01-16 00:03 < uberpenguin> I really need to pick up a book on NLD
2008-01-16 00:03 < quanticle> ronabop: You wear a kilt?
2008-01-16 00:03 < Demi> uberpenguin - oh, gee, i would, only i have to finish michael palin's diary
2008-01-16 00:04 < digwuren> IceKarma: Hmm ... that must mean you've been living in former British colonies.
2008-01-16 00:04 < digwuren> IceKarma: All of them, except USA, are now metric and speak English.
2008-01-16 00:04 < IceKarma> digwuren, guilty as charged. care to attempt to divine which three? ;)
2008-01-16 00:04 < digwuren> IceKarma: by "many miles", one of them is likely Australia or New Zealand
2008-01-16 00:05 < ronabop> quanticle: yup. utilikilt, to be exact.
2008-01-16 00:05 < digwuren> IceKarma: by "only two of three", one must be USA
2008-01-16 00:05 < Demi> is that that hiking kilt?
2008-01-16 00:05 < IceKarma> I've only been to one country where English was not spoken, and even then, I spoke one of the two local languages.
2008-01-16 00:05 < uberpenguin> Demi: chaos theory is far better than reading about an old comedian's travel exploits
2008-01-16 00:05 < Demi> this is actually palin's diary from the '70s
2008-01-16 00:06 < digwuren> uberpenguin: You just haven't read about Mark Twain's travel exploits.
2008-01-16 00:06 < IceKarma> digwuren, one of them is New Zealand. another is indeed the USA.
2008-01-16 00:06 < ronabop> Hiking kilts, Jogging Kilts, Shop kilts...
2008-01-16 00:06 < Demi> more or less during the time i'm reading this, i also read steve martin's memoir, they make an interesting contrast
2008-01-16 00:06 < quanticle> IceKarma: Which country?
2008-01-16 00:06 < ronabop> http://www.utilikilts.com/
2008-01-16 00:07 < IceKarma> digwuren, for the third, which happens to be my current, I'll give you a hint: NZ is far from here, too
2008-01-16 00:07 < Demi> REI was selling kilts for a while, i was tempted
2008-01-16 00:07 < digwuren> IceKarma: The third one has more options, from England itself to Canada.
2008-01-16 00:07 < FrikkinLazer> On other channels people talk crap a lot. This channel is no different. It's just crap with content.
2008-01-16 00:08 < IceKarma> quanticle, the non-English one? Belgium.
2008-01-16 00:09 < digwuren> IceKarma: well, if we discount the now-no-longer-predominantly-English-speaking former British colonies such as India and Pakistan, this criterion would mainly exclude smaller islands, such as Norfolk.
2008-01-16 00:09 * Ceiling_Cat is feeling surly
2008-01-16 00:09 < FastLizard4|busy> FrikkinLazer: Are you just going to troll here?
2008-01-16 00:09 < FrikkinLazer> No.
2008-01-16 00:09 < FrikkinLazer> It's just an observation.
2008-01-16 00:09 < quanticle> FrikkinLazer: I would rather have 'crap with content'.
2008-01-16 00:09 < IceKarma> digwuren, I'm trying hard to think of _obscure_ hints
2008-01-16 00:10 < FrikkinLazer> All people talk nonsens, it's fun. But I fid it intereseting that the wikipedia channel is still the same nonsense... with content. It's very interesting. I can read it for hours.
2008-01-16 00:10 < IceKarma> digwuren, Norfolk, though, is not very far from NZ
2008-01-16 00:11 < FastLizard4|busy> Is brown_cat in here by some chance?
2008-01-16 00:11 < quanticle> Ok, bedtime; bye all
2008-01-16 00:11 < FrikkinLazer> I did not log out of the room, so I sort of skimmed over the covnersations people were having through the night. It's really really amazing the amount of knowledge people in this channel have.
2008-01-16 00:11 < digwuren> IceKarma: well, it appears what I was thinking of isn't *that* Norfolk.
2008-01-16 00:11 < IceKarma> digwuren, my former British colony is not monolingually English
2008-01-16 00:12 < IceKarma> digwuren, oh, heh
2008-01-16 00:12 < digwuren> IceKarma: None of them is, except the very small ones.
2008-01-16 00:12 < FrikkinLazer> IceKarma : Is it South Africa?
2008-01-16 00:12 < IceKarma> FrikkinLazer, no. traffic control signals are not called "robots"
2008-01-16 00:12 < FrikkinLazer> They are. I called one a 'robot' just yesterday.
2008-01-16 00:13 < IceKarma> FrikkinLazer, sorry, I meant "to me"