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2008-01-12 22:22 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, Ok, I'll stop now
2008-01-12 22:22 < party> time for newpage patrols
2008-01-12 22:22 < party> SNORLAX
2008-01-12 22:22 < gwern> MessedRocker: yes, a bastard form of 'Joshua'
2008-01-12 22:22 * kim_bruning is just remeniscing
2008-01-12 22:22 < Xihix> if they do, that will fucking rape like nothing else.
2008-01-12 22:22 < party> wb Pilotguy
2008-01-12 22:22 * kim_bruning wonders if I'll get worse with age :-P
2008-01-12 22:23 < party> wanna see someone trolling the CES?
2008-01-12 22:23 < gwern> heh. I didn't actually intend the 'bastard' joke, but I like it
2008-01-12 22:23 < party> SNORLAX
2008-01-12 22:23 < Xihix> So, anyone see any movies recently that they liked?
2008-01-12 22:23 < uberpenguin> mirrormask
2008-01-12 22:23 < uberpenguin> see it
2008-01-12 22:23 < Luna-San> uberpenguin: Seconded
2008-01-12 22:23 < Xihix> I saw One Missed Call. Fantastic movie.
2008-01-12 22:23 < Luna-San> kim_bruning: Probably! :p
2008-01-12 22:23 < Xihix> Ha, just kidding.
2008-01-12 22:23 < kenlyric> I liked sweeney todd. But I could see a lot of people not liking it.
2008-01-12 22:23 < gwern> Xihix: I liked Hard Candy
2008-01-12 22:24 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, oh, dear.
2008-01-12 22:24 < uberpenguin> hard candy is a seriously messed up movie
2008-01-12 22:24 < gwern> (although Hard Candy technically wasn't recent)
2008-01-12 22:24 < kenlyric> I have the best meat pies in town.
2008-01-12 22:24 < Xihix> mentioning Hard Candy, I saw Juno.
2008-01-12 22:24 < gwern> uberpenguin: I know, that's what made it good
2008-01-12 22:24 < Xihix> It was a good movie. Sad, though.
2008-01-12 22:24 < uberpenguin> I don't enjoy movies just for being fucked up
2008-01-12 22:24 < MessedRocker> Xihiz, does Juno give you hard candy?
2008-01-12 22:24 < MessedRocker> ;)
2008-01-12 22:24 < gwern> oh, and I watched Collateral, which finally convinced me that tom cruise can actually act
2008-01-12 22:24 < Xihix> Oh, you're a sly one, MessedRocker.
2008-01-12 22:24 < kenlyric> gwern: he convinced me of that a long time ago.
2008-01-12 22:24 < Xihix> but anyway. Ellen Page gives me a hard candy, yes.
2008-01-12 22:24 < kenlyric> then he went crazy
2008-01-12 22:25 < kenlyric> speaking of crazy, we lost another one...
2008-01-12 22:25 * MessedRocker regrets that he started the video game conversation with the name "NotAMetroid"
2008-01-12 22:25 * kenlyric mourns will smith
2008-01-12 22:25 < gwern> kenlyric: what did he do? I actually haven't seen very much with Tom Cruise
2008-01-12 22:25 < bumm13> heh, some dude on Jeopardy! is going into Final Jeopardy with $1 after missing a Daily Double question ;)
2008-01-12 22:25 < Xihix> Anyone else see Juno, though?
2008-01-12 22:25 < Luna-San> bumm13: I hope he wins
2008-01-12 22:25 < kenlyric> bumm13: rerun?
2008-01-12 22:25 < gwern> bumm13: 'And what did you bet, Tom? 1$? And congratulations on a stunning recovery... the answer was indeed Linus Pauling!'
2008-01-12 22:26 < gwern> 'I would certainly not hire someone who couldn’t form coherent written sentences - if they can’t do it in a natural language I wouldn’t have much confidence in them doing it in a strict programming language. (Unless you are hiring for VB work of course, in which case the reverse may apply.)' <-- hee hee. VB gets dumped on more than php or c
2008-01-12 22:26 < bumm13> good chance
2008-01-12 22:27 < Krimpet> he could buy himself one of those shiny Sacajawea dollars with that kind of cash :o
2008-01-12 22:27 < bumm13> heh, his Final Jeopardy answer was "Alex Trebek" spelled backwards
2008-01-12 22:27 < bumm13> wtf
2008-01-12 22:27 < kenlyric> gwern: well, VB deserves it.
2008-01-12 22:27 < Xihix> The Sacajawea dollar was the biggest waste of money in US history.
2008-01-12 22:27 < kenlyric> bumm13: that's a.... family guy? joke.
2008-01-12 22:27 < kenlyric> it's supposed to make him reveal his alien form.
2008-01-12 22:27 < gwern> Xihix: even bigger than the iraq war? o rly
2008-01-12 22:27 < bumm13> what a nerd
2008-01-12 22:27 < gwern> (or suppressing the Phillipine revolt, or..._)
2008-01-12 22:28 < Xihix> well, excluding wars, Gwern.
2008-01-12 22:28 < SNORLAX> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHnX-fqlo1M this is what bumm13 is watching
2008-01-12 22:28 < gwern> Xihix: no no, it wasn't a war - it was a revolt!
2008-01-12 22:28 < Xihix> err
2008-01-12 22:28 < Xihix> Well.
2008-01-12 22:28 < gwern> bumm13: what about that one fellow who bet 1337 dollars?
2008-01-12 22:28 < Xihix> Anyone up to some Wikipedia work?
2008-01-12 22:28 < Krimpet> Xihix: not quite, since it did fill the need for change machines in post offices and such
2008-01-12 22:28 < gwern> Xihix: if it was a revolution, then that would've made america the bad guy, see?
2008-01-12 22:28 * Weaselosaurus creates a programming language modelled on [[ergative]] sentence structure
2008-01-12 22:29 < Xihix> well, still.
2008-01-12 22:29 < Krimpet> they even made more Susan B. Anthony coins in the late 90s because they were running low
2008-01-12 22:29 < gwern> and america by definition is not a bad guy
2008-01-12 22:29 < bumm13> SNORLAX: yep :)
2008-01-12 22:29 < gwern> by... modus tollens? we can see that it was therefore ~(a revolution)
2008-01-12 22:29 < kenlyric> trust me, the US won't give up on dollar coins.
2008-01-12 22:29 < Xihix> Sooooomeone
2008-01-12 22:29 < kenlyric> they'll keep trying until they catch onl.
2008-01-12 22:29 < Weaselosaurus> shiny
2008-01-12 22:29 < kenlyric> paper dollars are a serious expense.
2008-01-12 22:30 < bumm13> kenlyric: and people will keep hoarding them ;p
2008-01-12 22:30 < Xihix> Man, 56k sucks so bad.
2008-01-12 22:30 < gwern> we'll have to go to dollar coins at somepoint. we can't keep using pennies and nickels
2008-01-12 22:30 < bumm13> I mean, if they can't at least retrofit all these soda pop machines to take $1 coins, then who's going to care? :P
2008-01-12 22:31 < Xihix> How did people survive with 56k back in the day?
2008-01-12 22:31 < kenlyric> if you can call it survival
2008-01-12 22:31 < gwern> Xihix: fewer pics
2008-01-12 22:31 < gwern> much uglier and leaner sites
2008-01-12 22:31 < gwern> and patience. lots of patience
2008-01-12 22:31 * Krimpet had 14.4k until mid-2000 or so
2008-01-12 22:31 < Weaselosaurus> 56,000 dollar a day?
2008-01-12 22:31 < Xihix> holy doo doo.
2008-01-12 22:31 < rinn> Non-bloated sites.
2008-01-12 22:31 < rinn> With actual content!
2008-01-12 22:31 < Weaselosaurus> oh that
2008-01-12 22:32 < Xihix> well, say back in 1998
2008-01-12 22:32 < Weaselosaurus> if there's no flash trap, what is it good for?
2008-01-12 22:32 < Xihix> What was the biggest file hosted on the internet?
2008-01-12 22:32 < bumm13> Krimpet - o_O
2008-01-12 22:32 < Weaselosaurus> some big-ass FAQs?
2008-01-12 22:32 < gwern> impossible to say. commerical and scientific sites would blow any estimate
2008-01-12 22:32 < kenlyric> X-Files FAQ
2008-01-12 22:33 < Xihix> hmm. what about programs?
2008-01-12 22:33 < Xihix> were there not that many then?
2008-01-12 22:33 < gwern> the upper limit would probably be in the terabyte range though; I don't know who had enough money to store more than that in '98
2008-01-12 22:33 < MessedRocker> scientology
2008-01-12 22:33 < MessedRocker> let's talk bout it
2008-01-12 22:33 < MessedRocker> part 1
2008-01-12 22:33 < MessedRocker> http://ScientologyTalk1.ytmnd.com/
2008-01-12 22:34 < Xihix> I find Mormons more interesting at times.
2008-01-12 22:34 < kenlyric> go to hell, I think.
2008-01-12 22:34 < Lubaf> HE-MAN! AND THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE!
2008-01-12 22:34 < gwern> Xihix: sure there were. gcc or gnu emacs sources would probably run you 500megs uncompressed
2008-01-12 22:34 < uberpenguin> gwern: tens to hundreds of terabytes, probably
2008-01-12 22:34 < gwern> or you might go and download windows
2008-01-12 22:34 < Lubaf> What's funny, is how being so overly manly can border into camp gayishness.
2008-01-12 22:35 < Xihix> well, lets talk about the male anatomy then.
2008-01-12 22:35 < kenlyric> border? I thought it simply was.
2008-01-12 22:36 < gwern> uberpenguin: anything that size wouldn't've been being served over the internet, I don't think
2008-01-12 22:36 < uberpenguin> no
2008-01-12 22:36 < uberpenguin> those would be financial records, mostly
2008-01-12 22:36 < uberpenguin> and they'd be on huge SANs and spun off to tape nightly
2008-01-12 22:36 < kenlyric> I dunno, I was using campus broadband in 1998.
2008-01-12 22:36 < kenlyric> so, shit was still fast then.
2008-01-12 22:36 < Xihix> broadband in 1998... wow.
2008-01-12 22:36 < Xihix> When was broadband first introduced?
2008-01-12 22:37 < uberpenguin> T-carrier and SONET have been around a good long time
2008-01-12 22:37 < kenlyric> no, campus network.
2008-01-12 22:37 < gwern> uberpenguin: databases maybe, but Xihix was asking about single files
2008-01-12 22:37 < kenlyric> various Ts and OCs
2008-01-12 22:37 < Lubaf> Xihix: The 70s, IIRC.
2008-01-12 22:37 < kenlyric> maybe a 10Mbps wired network then.
2008-01-12 22:37 < kenlyric> maybe 100, I don't remember.
2008-01-12 22:37 < gwern> heck come to think of it, what commodity filesystems even supported more than a terabyte files in '98?
2008-01-12 22:37 < Xihix> T3 is the fastest connection available, correct?
2008-01-12 22:38 < Lubaf> A T1 line was originally designed to carry TV signals cross-country for the purposes of going out live.
2008-01-12 22:38 < kenlyric> hhahahaha
2008-01-12 22:38 < kenlyric> wow.
2008-01-12 22:38 < MessedRocker> Xihix, no
2008-01-12 22:38 < Lubaf> Xihix: More or less.
2008-01-12 22:38 < uberpenguin> gwern: what is a "file"?
2008-01-12 22:38 < uberpenguin> some organizational unit on *nix and DOS-like filesystems?
2008-01-12 22:38 < Xihix> MessedRocker, what then?
2008-01-12 22:38 < Lubaf> Xihix: The answer is both "Yes" and "No".
2008-01-12 22:38 < Lubaf> IIRC.
2008-01-12 22:38 < Xihix> uhh lubaf
2008-01-12 22:38 < Xihix> It's IRC.
2008-01-12 22:38 * Rinn chuckles
2008-01-12 22:38 < uberpenguin> on big iron systems, the analogues of files look somewhat different
2008-01-12 22:39 < kenlyric> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier
2008-01-12 22:39 < Lubaf> "Yes, it's the fastest you can get as an individual", but "No, it's not the fastest you can get, period", IIRC.
2008-01-12 22:39 < Lubaf> uberpenguin: Records, right?
2008-01-12 22:39 < gwern> uberpenguin: I'd imagine. big iron always does things different it seems
2008-01-12 22:39 < Xihix> what the hell is IIRC, damn it.
2008-01-12 22:39 < uberpenguin> Lubaf: objects and libraries in the systems I'm familiar with
2008-01-12 22:39 < Xihix> And, what is the fasted you can get, period?
2008-01-12 22:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Teeheee
2008-01-12 22:39 < Xihix> Hey Raul.
2008-01-12 22:39 < uberpenguin> gwern: they evolved differently from PCs, to be sure
2008-01-12 22:39 < Ceiling_Cat> I was digging through my email
2008-01-12 22:39 < kenlyric> see the link I posted?
2008-01-12 22:39 < Ceiling_Cat> and I fond this gem:
2008-01-12 22:40 < Lubaf> Xihix: If I Recall Correctly.
2008-01-12 22:40 < kenlyric> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier
2008-01-12 22:40 < Xihix> ah.
2008-01-12 22:40 < kenlyric> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> on arbcom-l, we were discussion the ann coulter article
2008-01-12 22:40 < kenlyric> oops
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> There are a great many things that could be said about Anne Coulter, but
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> unfortunately, as I sit here I cannot think of any that could be said in
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> polite conversation. A quote from Law and Order seems appropriate -
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> "Turn back the clock a few years, and she'd be drafting the house rules
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> at Auschwitz"
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> -Mark
2008-01-12 22:40 < MessedRocker> my kitty is on my lap
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> Whoops, sorry for the flood
2008-01-12 22:40 < Xihix> Ceiling_Cat, can you help me with the front page nomination when you're done?
2008-01-12 22:40 < bumm13> uberpenguin: quit throwing around your midrange IBM street cred ;)
2008-01-12 22:40 < Ceiling_Cat> Xihix - front page nomination?
2008-01-12 22:41 < Xihix> well, I have a question about it.
2008-01-12 22:41 < Ceiling_Cat> yes?
2008-01-12 22:41 < uberpenguin> bumm13: it's hardly street cred in the *nix kiddie infested world of IRC
2008-01-12 22:41 < Xihix> Whenever I look, the 5 nomination is maxed out.
2008-01-12 22:41 < Xihix> but by the time I look again for it to be gone
2008-01-12 22:41 < Xihix> someone else already has one.
2008-01-12 22:41 < Xihix> What do I do?
2008-01-12 22:41 < bumm13> I know, 'twas joe-kin
2008-01-12 22:41 < gwern> uberpenguin: of course it's *nix infested! where did IRC come from?
2008-01-12 22:41 < uberpenguin> I never said it was unexpected
2008-01-12 22:42 < gwern> that's like complaining about all these Unix gurus on yr usenet
2008-01-12 22:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Hrm
2008-01-12 22:42 * bumm13 sets up his own virtual 1969 Arpanet ;)
2008-01-12 22:42 < uberpenguin> I just stated a fact, that internet people typically are far removed from big iron people, and vice versa
2008-01-12 22:42 < kenlyric> gwern: they probably connect through a java web client.
2008-01-12 22:42 * gwern is in ur usenet, uucp'ing ur news
2008-01-12 22:42 * Ceiling_Cat just had a neat thought for had to revamp the requests page
2008-01-12 22:42 < uberpenguin> even the oldest internet people will only be roused by mention of DEC lore, not IBM stuff
2008-01-12 22:43 < Xihix> Really? because I want to nominate my article, as time is running out for me to do so.
2008-01-12 22:43 < gwern> uberpenguin: which if you think about it, is kind of odd. you'd think big iron would've been the early adopter of networking, and not crappy mini or personal computers
2008-01-12 22:43 < Ceiling_Cat> Xihix - right now it's first-come-first-serve, and if you can't get there in a timely fashion, you lose
2008-01-12 22:43 < bumm13> IBM, above all else, just wants to make your business retail systems work together ;)
2008-01-12 22:43 < Xihix> Thats lame >: (
2008-01-12 22:43 < Ceiling_Cat> it's a superior system to what was there before
2008-01-12 22:43 < Ceiling_Cat> which is to say, lots of people asking me on my talk page
2008-01-12 22:44 < Xihix> Ha.
2008-01-12 22:44 < bumm13> (and IBM guards its midrange wisdom closely)
2008-01-12 22:44 < Xihix> So, you have no suggestions for me?
2008-01-12 22:44 < Ceiling_Cat> No, BUT
2008-01-12 22:44 < Ceiling_Cat> as I said, I just had one of my little moments of serendipity
2008-01-12 22:44 < Xihix> sounds exciting.
2008-01-12 22:44 * Ceiling_Cat gets those occasoinally and is very happy when he does
2008-01-12 22:44 < Xihix> Wanna tell us a little about the idea?
2008-01-12 22:45 < gwern> we three princes of Serendip...
2008-01-12 22:45 * bumm13 NP: Hawkwind - Lord of Light (1972)
2008-01-12 22:45 < Ceiling_Cat> Not until I flesh it out a bit more
2008-01-12 22:45 < Xihix> Alright.
2008-01-12 22:45 < Xihix> But, for now, could you do this:
2008-01-12 22:45 < Xihix> when you're about to put an article in queue, tell me?
2008-01-12 22:45 < Xihix> so I can go and nominate it fast.
2008-01-12 22:46 < uberpenguin> gwern: academia and all that
2008-01-12 22:46 < uberpenguin> DEC buddied up to academia, not IBM
2008-01-12 22:47 < bumm13> DEC %cas more "MIT legacy", one might say
2008-01-12 22:47 < gwern> mm. color me cynical and ignorant, but I suspect at least one of the causes is big vendors not liking the open standards and such
2008-01-12 22:47 < bumm13> IBM has always picked and choosed its partnerships, etc.
2008-01-12 22:47 < gwern> (remember who the evil empire before ms was)
2008-01-12 22:47 < bumm13> (at least it seems that way)
2008-01-12 22:48 < Xihix> Hmm. Raul is probably fleshing out his idea at the moment.
2008-01-12 22:48 < MessedRocker> i have a slutty cat on my lap
2008-01-12 22:48 < bumm13> =^o.o^=
2008-01-12 22:48 < gwern> hawt
2008-01-12 22:48 < MessedRocker> she is currently sleeping
2008-01-12 22:48 < gwern> even hawter would be a slutty catgirl on your lap
2008-01-12 22:49 < gwern> not so hawt
2008-01-12 22:49 < Xihix> why is the cat slutty?
2008-01-12 22:49 < MessedRocker> she just is
2008-01-12 22:50 < Xihix> Does she do other cats and do another one the next day?
2008-01-12 22:50 < MessedRocker> she's actually fixed
2008-01-12 22:50 < MessedRocker> but she prances around like a whore
2008-01-12 22:50 < gwern> Xihix: maybe she's in heat all the time
2008-01-12 22:50 < MessedRocker> and sometimes she'll look at you with these really glarey eyes
2008-01-12 22:50 < Xihix> If she's fixed, she can't screw around anymore?
2008-01-12 22:50 < uberpenguin> IBM is still the evil empire
2008-01-12 22:50 < LuciferTiger> i got a slutty bitch in my lap too!!!
2008-01-12 22:51 < uberpenguin> it's just that internet people like to focus their hatred on anything that is perceived as being anti-open-source
2008-01-12 22:51 < uberpenguin> and IBM has managed to dodge that perception somehow
2008-01-12 22:53 < bumm13> IBM just uses Linux as part of their greater business plan
2008-01-12 22:53 < gwern> it's interesting how many people modern medicine kills
2008-01-12 22:54 < gwern> 'Iatrogenic deaths account for 2-4% of all deaths in the US (the third leading cause of death according to one accounting 3 ) and may correspond to a loss of life expectancy by 6 12 months.[4]'
2008-01-12 22:54 < Ceiling_Cat> Xihix - I'll be posting it shortly
2008-01-12 22:55 < Xihix> Ceiling_Cat
2008-01-12 22:55 < Xihix> where at?
2008-01-12 22:55 < Xihix> also, a shout out from me as an introduction would be cool :)
2008-01-12 22:56 < Xihix> Anyone want a riddle?
2008-01-12 22:56 < Ceiling_Cat> Xihix -well, you're not the only one who precipitated this change
2008-01-12 22:56 < Ceiling_Cat> Spawnman was very unhappy with that page too
2008-01-12 22:56 < Xihix> Ah.
2008-01-12 22:57 < Xihix> Where are you posting it, though?
2008-01-12 22:57 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-12 23:01 < Not_the_NSA> Ceiling_Cat: the great writings of Wikipedia: "Here is a list of some of the most destructive and notable storms to effect the state New York. " in [[List of New York hurricanes]]
2008-01-12 23:01 < nds> hey folks, question time
2008-01-12 23:02 < Weaselosaurus> wow, the whole pronounciation oggs are in the hand of one grandiose amateur
2008-01-12 23:02 < Weaselosaurus> o.o
2008-01-12 23:02 < nds> do we do anything about user sub-pages like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alex1996Ne/Hillary_Clinton_is_an_idiot
2008-01-12 23:02 < nds> ?
2008-01-12 23:02 < LuciferTiger> delete them?
2008-01-12 23:02 < LuciferTiger> even though he prolly might be on to something
2008-01-12 23:02 < nds> it's a __user__ sub-page
2008-01-12 23:03 < LuciferTiger> nds: the strategy here is to ignore what i say
2008-01-12 23:03 < nds> haha
2008-01-12 23:03 < nds> nice
2008-01-12 23:03 * Weaselosaurus finds it disturbing that the pronounciations of sounds should be in the hand of someone who does not speak them
2008-01-12 23:03 < Weaselosaurus> *languages that contain them
2008-01-12 23:03 * nds !kung clicking expert
2008-01-12 23:04 < Weaselosaurus> That for instance
2008-01-12 23:04 < LuciferTiger> !xobile
2008-01-12 23:04 < Weaselosaurus> he claims to be a "quasi-native speaker" in English and Russian but his Russian is often enough ruled terrible and his written English mediocre.
2008-01-12 23:05 < Weaselosaurus> And he's working on languages he obviously knows very little about
2008-01-12 23:05 < Weaselosaurus> hm
2008-01-12 23:05 < Alkivar> 17-0... suck it floridians
2008-01-12 23:06 < LuciferTiger> respect the elderly Alkivar
2008-01-12 23:06 < Alkivar> get off my lawn!
2008-01-12 23:06 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm curious - given the IPA pronunciation of any word, is it possible for a computer to generate it 100% correctly?
2008-01-12 23:07 < Weaselosaurus> good question
2008-01-12 23:07 < Weaselosaurus> it would probably still sound awkward to a native
2008-01-12 23:07 < Weaselosaurus> too much sterility sounds artificial
2008-01-12 23:07 < Alkivar> ceiling cat... you'd have to modify some of the text to speech engines till it sounds right
2008-01-12 23:07 < Alkivar> cause as far as i know none of them take IPA input
2008-01-12 23:07 < Ceiling_Cat> Alkivar - that's the whole point, I'm asking if it would be possible to construct one that took IPA as its input
2008-01-12 23:08 < Weaselosaurus> I think some already do.
2008-01-12 23:08 < Alkivar> i dont see why not
2008-01-12 23:08 < Weaselosaurus> (someone told me on here)
2008-01-12 23:08 < ancjr> it would be possible
2008-01-12 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> Weaselosaurus - for sentences,it would sound awkward for lack of inflextion
2008-01-12 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> it would sound mechanical
2008-01-12 23:08 < Alkivar> you'd have to get someone to pronounce each individual character, then character pairs, then character triplets
2008-01-12 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> Alkivar - no, IPA does that
2008-01-12 23:08 < Weaselosaurus> I think the key to every text to speech engine is a) correct high or low voice, ie syntax analysis
2008-01-12 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> IPA is a sound specification
2008-01-12 23:08 < Alkivar> raul: i know that... i'm saying if you want the computer to respond properly
2008-01-12 23:08 < Weaselosaurus> and b) proper management of gaps between words
2008-01-12 23:09 < Alkivar> you'd want to record someone doing that so it'd be easier to play it back sounding right
2008-01-12 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> Alkivar - ah, yes
2008-01-12 23:09 < Weaselosaurus> But they'd have to record each word many times
2008-01-12 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> you would need someone to pronounce each sound in the language
2008-01-12 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> english has 42, IIRC
2008-01-12 23:09 < Weaselosaurus> according to where in the sentence it stands
2008-01-12 23:09 < Alkivar> yep, thats not that many
2008-01-12 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> but I'm not sure how it would handle blending them
2008-01-12 23:10 < Alkivar> and you'd have to do it with stress on syllables and w/o stress on syllables
2008-01-12 23:10 < Weaselosaurus> I think that would be possible
2008-01-12 23:10 < Alkivar> in all you'd probably have to record about 200-300 sounds to make it sound believable
2008-01-12 23:10 < Luna-San> nds: I took a hatchet to the crap. They're not working on the project, which leaves me disinclined to leave a bunch of political jerking off in their userspace
2008-01-12 23:11 < Weaselosaurus> depends. if you want your tts to fall into Southern slang every once in a while
2008-01-12 23:11 < nds> Lunah-San... thanks
2008-01-12 23:11 < Weaselosaurus> :-P
2008-01-12 23:11 < nds> wasn't sure where the line is [[WP:User_page]] sets the bar pretty high
2008-01-12 23:11 < Alkivar> and then write an interface that knew proper IPA and rejected improper IPA usage
2008-01-12 23:12 < Weaselosaurus> whats improper IPA?
2008-01-12 23:12 < Weaselosaurus> The problem is extrapolation of the pronounciation of unknown words.
2008-01-12 23:12 < Alkivar> Weasel: someone using the wrong character so that the word comes out wrote
2008-01-12 23:12 < nds> gotta love 13 year old strait [sic] republicans from Nebraska
2008-01-12 23:12 < Alkivar> for example there are only X # of pronounciations of "HE"
2008-01-12 23:12 < Alkivar> "QZ" != "HE"
2008-01-12 23:12 < Weaselosaurus> you'd have to make a lexicon
2008-01-12 23:12 < Weaselosaurus> a table of words
2008-01-12 23:12 < Weaselosaurus> with its pronounciations
2008-01-12 23:13 < Weaselosaurus> the problem is that some words have two
2008-01-12 23:13 < Weaselosaurus> that would be a context problem
2008-01-12 23:13 < Alkivar> something that would based on context know that certain pronunciations are favored over others
2008-01-12 23:13 < Ceiling_Cat> nds - huh?
2008-01-12 23:13 < Weaselosaurus> yea, you could have it pronounce it the more common way each time and rely on your customer's common sense.
2008-01-12 23:14 < nds> the user page I posted
2008-01-12 23:14 < Weaselosaurus> except maybe in fixed expressions
2008-01-12 23:14 < nds> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Alex1996Ne
2008-01-12 23:14 < nds> He has a "hillary clinton is a bitch" sub-page
2008-01-12 23:14 < Alkivar> in otehr words /kat/ will always be "cat" ... so if you have /cat/ you've fucked up
2008-01-12 23:15 < Luna-San> nds: Not anymore. >.>
2008-01-12 23:15 < nds> :-)
2008-01-12 23:15 < Luna-San> I left the "pictures of smart people" but nuked "pictures of idiots."
2008-01-12 23:15 < nds> that seems fair
2008-01-12 23:15 * Ceiling_Cat wonders what is wrong with the midwest
2008-01-12 23:15 < Alkivar> it shouldnt be too hard to get a couple of bored linguistics geeks, and a pair of coders together to produce an IPA text to speech
2008-01-12 23:15 < Weaselosaurus> hm? the engine reads "cat", and preprocesses that word in its library, where it finds the pronounciation "kæt"
2008-01-12 23:16 < Ceiling_Cat> I mean, I've long since given up on the south
2008-01-12 23:16 < Alkivar> Weasel: something like that yes
2008-01-12 23:16 < Ceiling_Cat> they're hopeless. But, to echo the book, wtf is the matter with Kansas?
2008-01-12 23:16 < Weaselosaurus> the only interesting thing there is how to pronounce unknown words
2008-01-12 23:16 < Ceiling_Cat> (and nebraska, in alex's case)
2008-01-12 23:16 < Weaselosaurus> probably only a probability thing
2008-01-12 23:16 < Alkivar> Weasel: have a check box for "ignore errors"
2008-01-12 23:16 < nds> Ceiling_Cat: they are there to allow us to feel superior...and they do a good job.
2008-01-12 23:17 < Weaselosaurus> because it can be down to combinations of factors
2008-01-12 23:17 < Alkivar> which would disable the correction routine
2008-01-12 23:17 < Weaselosaurus> and sometimes words are just weird, like Leicester
2008-01-12 23:17 < nds> Celtic
2008-01-12 23:17 < Alkivar> and allow stuff like /cæt/
2008-01-12 23:17 < bumm13> Kansas is there to grow wheat and sunflowers
2008-01-12 23:18 < bumm13> Nebraska is for growing corn and having slaughterhouses
2008-01-12 23:18 < Weaselosaurus> which in standard English would be /liːsɛstəɹ
2008-01-12 23:18 < Ceiling_Cat> nds - I don't understand how kansas, a hotbed of populism in the 1890s, could have been conned into believing what the republicans have to offer them is anything but a witch's brew
2008-01-12 23:18 < MessedRocker> nds you're the abbreviated name of a handheld
2008-01-12 23:19 < nds> populism ≠ tolerance
2008-01-12 23:19 < Alkivar> heh
2008-01-12 23:19 < Alkivar> lets not devolve into a politics debate
2008-01-12 23:19 < Alkivar> we'll deal with enough of that shit for the next 10 months
2008-01-12 23:19 < Weaselosaurus> Nebraska is a good record...
2008-01-12 23:19 < Ceiling_Cat> alk - you must be new here
2008-01-12 23:19 < Ceiling_Cat> ;)
2008-01-12 23:19 < Alkivar> Raul: dont make me hurt you :P
2008-01-12 23:19 < nds> Messed: which handleld?
2008-01-12 23:19 < nds> Nokia?
2008-01-12 23:19 < Luna-San> I got an impression somewhere along the line that Raul is just slightly liberal. >.>
2008-01-12 23:19 < nds> oh
2008-01-12 23:20 < nds> Nintendo
2008-01-12 23:20 * Ceiling_Cat snickers @ Luna
2008-01-12 23:20 < nds> we have two in the house, never actually occured to me
2008-01-12 23:20 * Weaselosaurus adds the word "liberal" to his hate vocabulary
2008-01-12 23:20 < Alkivar> i bet Raul is an obama worshipper
2008-01-12 23:20 < Ceiling_Cat> luna - I am socially liberal and economically conservative
2008-01-12 23:20 < Weaselosaurus> it's used to combine people who have zero to do with each other
2008-01-12 23:20 < Ceiling_Cat> Alk - I like Obama more than Clinton, but my first choice (Dodd) dropped out
2008-01-12 23:21 < Luna-San> Ceiling_Cat: Fair enough. Political compasses tend to land me in that territory.
2008-01-12 23:21 < Alkivar> dont feel bad... my first choice doesnt have a hope in hell of winning
2008-01-12 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> please don't say Ron Paul
2008-01-12 23:21 * NotACow has been an obama supporter since he announced last year
2008-01-12 23:21 < Alkivar> thompson
2008-01-12 23:21 < NotACow> Alkivar: tommy, or fred?
2008-01-12 23:21 < Weaselosaurus> My first choice was Biden, my second will be Obama IF Bloomberg runs. And possibly if he doesn't
2008-01-12 23:21 * Ceiling_Cat lulz
2008-01-12 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> Tommy Thompson....
2008-01-12 23:21 < Krimpet> I'm the same way, Biden was my favorite till he dropped out
2008-01-12 23:21 * nds misses Toncredo
2008-01-12 23:21 < Alkivar> Fred isnt that bad if you actually give hte man a chance to explain his positions
2008-01-12 23:21 < Weaselosaurus> I thought that Duncan Hunter was doing really well
2008-01-12 23:21 < NotACow> Alkivar: snort
2008-01-12 23:21 < MessedRocker> nds = nintendo ds
2008-01-12 23:21 < Alkivar> problem is he's shitty at short quotes
2008-01-12 23:21 < Krimpet> I'm divided on Hillary or Obama
2008-01-12 23:22 < Weaselosaurus> nobody gave a damn though
2008-01-12 23:22 < Alkivar> and we all know politics is won with short soundbites
2008-01-12 23:22 < Ceiling_Cat> Alkivar - I very much wish the 24 hour news networks had greater depth of coverage, ala NPR
2008-01-12 23:22 < Weaselosaurus> If Elected, I Will Have The Hottest First Lady In U.S. History - By Sen. Fred Thompson
2008-01-12 23:22 < Ceiling_Cat> I do agree with you that it's sound-byte oriented
2008-01-12 23:22 * nds notes the speed at which politics trumped IPA
2008-01-12 23:22 < Weaselosaurus> the Onion is my main source of political news.
2008-01-12 23:22 < Alkivar> Raul: i wish NPR covered all the fucking candidates :(
2008-01-12 23:23 < Krimpet> Weaselosaurus: hey, Bill would make a pretty hot first lady. :P
2008-01-12 23:23 < nds> Alkivar: as compared to whom? Fox news??
2008-01-12 23:23 < Alkivar> NPR gave guliani 5 minutes of debate today... and 0 of thompson or paul
2008-01-12 23:23 < Weaselosaurus> Giuliani is behind Paul!
2008-01-12 23:23 < Alkivar> exactly
2008-01-12 23:23 < Krimpet> 0 minutes to Ron Paul isn't a bad thing, though ;p
2008-01-12 23:23 < JerseyDevil86> NPR = one of the few last news sources in the United States.
2008-01-12 23:23 < Alkivar> i can understand skipping thompson with his 1-2% showings in iowa/NH
2008-01-12 23:24 < Alkivar> but ron paul should have at least recieved equal coverage
2008-01-12 23:24 < Weaselosaurus> Perot May Lead First Mars Expedition 'Only If The People Of Mars Ask Me To,' He Says
2008-01-12 23:24 < JerseyDevil86> Krimpet: Can't wait till this thing is over to stop the Ron Paul spam.
2008-01-12 23:24 < Alkivar> considering he was ahead of guliani in iowa and 1 pt behind in NH
2008-01-12 23:24 < Weaselosaurus> I think the reason The Onion doesn't make fun of Ron Paul is because they wasted all their jokes on Ross Perot
2008-01-12 23:24 < JerseyDevil86> Guiliani didn't even try in Iowa or NH
2008-01-12 23:24 < Alkivar> Guliani is going to be dropping out of the race in the next 2 weeks anyway
2008-01-12 23:25 < Alkivar> his campaign is practically broke
2008-01-12 23:25 < LuciferTiger> Weaselosaurus: I have to disagree on the fred thompson thing. Kuchinich has a hotter one
2008-01-12 23:25 < JerseyDevil86> His plan is to take Florida and other states during Super Tuesday
2008-01-12 23:25 < Alkivar> some staffers are already forgoing salaries to keep it going
2008-01-12 23:25 < JerseyDevil86> redhead = good
2008-01-12 23:25 < Weaselosaurus> I said it before, I'd happily drink Indian Spice Tea with Kucinich
2008-01-12 23:25 < nds> hillary and obama's bankrolls are, I think, 5X relative to four years ago (as compared to Kerry et al.)
2008-01-12 23:26 < JerseyDevil86> redhead + british accent = really good
2008-01-12 23:26 < Weaselosaurus> I don't think he'd be a good president
2008-01-12 23:26 < JerseyDevil86> who?
2008-01-12 23:26 * Krimpet can donate some of her old dresses and makeup to the Giuliani campaign
2008-01-12 23:26 < LuciferTiger> hlary obama ftw
2008-01-12 23:26 < nds> Anyone see the Liz Kucinich interview on Daily Show?
2008-01-12 23:26 < JerseyDevil86> I hope hillary loses really bad.
2008-01-12 23:26 < LuciferTiger> nds how was it?
2008-01-12 23:27 < JerseyDevil86> The primaries I mean
2008-01-12 23:27 < Weaselosaurus> Area Man Calls For Immediate Release Of His Endorphins
2008-01-12 23:27 < nds> are you embarrased easily?
2008-01-12 23:27 < Weaselosaurus> hehe
2008-01-12 23:27 < nds> it was in FLILF segment
2008-01-12 23:27 < LuciferTiger> lol onion rocks
2008-01-12 23:27 < LuciferTiger> nds who?
2008-01-12 23:27 < nds> Mrs. Kucinich
2008-01-12 23:28 < JerseyDevil86> Fred Thompson is quite possibly the dumber then Bush.
2008-01-12 23:28 < nds> I'll find a link, hold on.
2008-01-12 23:28 < Weaselosaurus> Fred Thompson doesn't seem to like talking
2008-01-12 23:28 < Alkivar> Jersey: re-read that sentance, when you can write in proper english i'll listen to comments about someones stupidity
2008-01-12 23:28 < Weaselosaurus> he's like the grumpy old uncle who stays in his room all day.
2008-01-12 23:28 < JerseyDevil86> lol
2008-01-12 23:29 < JerseyDevil86> typing fast
2008-01-12 23:29 < Alkivar> :P
2008-01-12 23:29 < JerseyDevil86> but yes he is
2008-01-12 23:31 < bumm13> Weaselosaurus: heh
2008-01-12 23:31 < Weaselosaurus> :-)
2008-01-12 23:32 < nds> Elizabeth Kucinich on The Daily Show "Is America Ready for a FLILF?" --> http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=127597&title=is-america-ready-for-a-flilf
2008-01-12 23:32 < nds> sophomoric, but hillarious
2008-01-12 23:32 < Weaselosaurus> "Krk (Italian Veglia, German: Vegl; Latin Curicta) is a Croatian island in the northern Adriatic Sea, located near Rijeka in the Bay of Kvarner and part of the Primorje-Gorski Kotar county."
2008-01-12 23:32 < Weaselosaurus> I'll buy a vowel.
2008-01-12 23:32 < Alkivar> thompsons wife is hittable too
2008-01-12 23:32 < nds> she is in the segment as well, but not interviewed
2008-01-12 23:33 < JerseyDevil86> yeah thompsons wife needs to do some porn
2008-01-12 23:33 < nds> I think it was Federalist 27 where John Jay discussed the hitability of Betsy Ross
2008-01-12 23:34 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jeri_thompson.jpg
2008-01-12 23:34 < Alkivar> thats a potential FLILF
2008-01-12 23:34 < Weaselosaurus> oh god
2008-01-12 23:34 < Weaselosaurus> Hillary's glasses choices
2008-01-12 23:35 < Alkivar> lets face it... hillary wouldnt be such a bitch if she came out of the closet and accepted she was a butch lessie
2008-01-12 23:36 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-12 23:36 < Alkivar> that woman needs an orgasm more than any other human on the planet... maybe that would losen the ice queen up
2008-01-12 23:36 < JerseyDevil86> It boggles my mind how Clinton is even in the race
2008-01-12 23:37 < Alkivar> it doesnt boggle mine
2008-01-12 23:37 < JerseyDevil86> she voted for the war and registered dems are +90% against it.
2008-01-12 23:37 < Alkivar> no one gives a rats ass about how she voted in the past sadly
2008-01-12 23:37 < JerseyDevil86> it makes no sense but whatever, money and name matters more then issues i guess
2008-01-12 23:37 < MessedRocker> hey JerseyDevil86
2008-01-12 23:37 < MessedRocker> are you going to the meetup tomorrow?
2008-01-12 23:38 < LuciferTiger> lol whats a milf
2008-01-12 23:38 < JerseyDevil86> like a wiki meetup?
2008-01-12 23:38 < MessedRocker> mom-i'd-like-to-fuck
2008-01-12 23:38 < Alkivar> Lucifer: mom i'd like to fuck
2008-01-12 23:38 < Weaselosaurus> LuciferTiger: Wikipedia.
2008-01-12 23:38 < Weaselosaurus> oh, whatever
2008-01-12 23:38 < Weaselosaurus> o.o
2008-01-12 23:38 < JerseyDevil86> Mother I'd Like to Fuck
2008-01-12 23:38 < MessedRocker> JerseyDevil86, yes, tomorrow, Columbia University, 2:30 PM
2008-01-12 23:38 < Alkivar> flilf = first lady i'd like to fuck
2008-01-12 23:38 < LuciferTiger> no no u guys thats a line from the vid
2008-01-12 23:38 < Alkivar> now that your caught up with the discussion from 10 minutes ago
2008-01-12 23:39 < Alkivar> do we need to catch you up on rick rolling, chocolate rain, and 2 girls 1 cup next?
2008-01-12 23:39 < LuciferTiger> a FLILF is an acronym... also a palindrome
2008-01-12 23:39 < JerseyDevil86> is there like a link you can give me that talks about it
2008-01-12 23:39 < MessedRocker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
2008-01-12 23:39 < LuciferTiger> lol your husband would be a FLILF hunter
2008-01-12 23:39 < LuciferTiger> rofl
2008-01-12 23:39 < nds> jason jones has no shame... amazing that he pulled that off
2008-01-12 23:39 < Alkivar> huh?
2008-01-12 23:39 < Alkivar> husband?
2008-01-12 23:40 < nds> ms. kucinich's husband
2008-01-12 23:40 < nds> he is quoting the show
2008-01-12 23:40 < Alkivar> ahh
2008-01-12 23:40 < LuciferTiger> thanks nds
2008-01-12 23:40 < LuciferTiger> Alkivar: new?
2008-01-12 23:41 < MessedRocker> A Daily Show
2008-01-12 23:41 < JerseyDevil86> would be nice but can't go
2008-01-12 23:41 < bumm13> An Interesting Daily Show
2008-01-12 23:41 < JerseyDevil86> no money + nyc = no good
2008-01-12 23:41 < JerseyDevil86> Plus I'll be watching football
2008-01-12 23:42 < JerseyDevil86> but thanks I'll keep this in mind for future meetups
2008-01-12 23:42 < bumm13> I hope the Gigantes beat Dallas
2008-01-12 23:42 < JerseyDevil86> yeah, did you see the fucking patriots just won
2008-01-12 23:42 < bumm13> yes :P
2008-01-12 23:42 < LuciferTiger> any DC meetups scheduled?
2008-01-12 23:43 * bumm13 is sad because the Seahawks went snowblind
2008-01-12 23:43 < JerseyDevil86> yeah, that snow really fucked them up
2008-01-12 23:43 < Luna-San> I think DC gets meetups. Not sure about anything current, though.
2008-01-12 23:43 < LuciferTiger> JerseyDevil86: one day there will be a movie made out of it... "The Patriot Act"
2008-01-12 23:43 < bumm13> Brett Favre, the Blizzard of Oz
2008-01-12 23:46 < Weaselosaurus> LuciferTiger: With Harrison Ford playing the Patriot.
2008-01-12 23:46 < LuciferTiger> chuck norris
2008-01-12 23:46 < JerseyDevil86> I kinda hope that the pats make it to the superbowl and lose it
2008-01-12 23:46 < LuciferTiger> y?
2008-01-12 23:46 < JerseyDevil86> Because that would be the best way to fuck up their season.
2008-01-12 23:47 < Weaselosaurus> the Seattle Seahorses!
2008-01-12 23:47 < LuciferTiger> lol
2008-01-12 23:47 < JerseyDevil86> preferably to the giants of course
2008-01-12 23:47 < JerseyDevil86> too bad eli plays like shit
2008-01-12 23:51 < Weaselosaurus> Eli eli lama sabachthani
2008-01-12 23:54 < JerseyDevil86> what goes on at these wiki meetups anyway?
2008-01-12 23:54 < JerseyDevil86> aside from the sex and the drugs..
2008-01-12 23:56 < Weaselosaurus> Question is seconded. All manners of debauchery? Wanton abandonment? All in a Klingon-C++ hybrid?
2008-01-12 23:56 < Cyrius> cats and dogs living together!
2008-01-12 23:56 < LuciferTiger> i wouldnt mind all of that
2008-01-12 23:56 < Weaselosaurus> sorry, the Klingon-C++ dialect of Japanee
2008-01-12 23:56 < Weaselosaurus> *s
2008-01-12 23:56 < LuciferTiger> that i would mind
2008-01-12 23:57 < LuciferTiger> anyone up for a game of Klingon boogle
2008-01-12 23:59 < LuciferTiger> appparently not
2008-01-13 00:04 < nds> kahplah!
2008-01-13 00:04 < nds> sorry, slow on the up take
2008-01-13 00:10 < Axeman> WUTWUTWUTWUTWUTWUTWUTWUTWUTWUT
2008-01-13 00:10 < Rinn> Why did Earthworm Jim 3D have to suck?
2008-01-13 00:10 < Cyrius> hee.
2008-01-13 00:10 < Leslie_S> haha
2008-01-13 00:11 < Leslie_S> what a jerk
2008-01-13 00:11 < SNORLAX> testes testes 1 2 3?
2008-01-13 00:11 < Krimpet> +b, that is all. :p
2008-01-13 00:11 < Cyrius> plonk.
2008-01-13 00:11 < Leslie_S> so is it likely that my job will have an issue with me wearing a bracelet?
2008-01-13 00:13 < Luna-San> Depends on the nature of the job and the bracelet, I'd think.
2008-01-13 00:13 < Luna-San> But provided it's not an unusual job, and not an unusual bracelet, probably not?
2008-01-13 00:14 < Krimpet> if it's a candy bracelet, maybe
2008-01-13 00:14 < Rinn> Is it a Bracelet of Strength?
2008-01-13 00:14 < Cyrius> +1 bracelet of drama
2008-01-13 00:15 < Luna-San> And bear in mind that the Power Bracelet is NOT a license to run around throwing clay pots all over the place because "they might have hearts."
2008-01-13 00:15 < Krimpet> Luna-San: but if it's an L-2 bracelet, you can resurrect the flying rooster :/
2008-01-13 00:15 < Leslie_S> so did i mention that my workplace was almost shut down by the health department recently?
2008-01-13 00:15 < Leslie_S> as in like, last week.
2008-01-13 00:16 < Luna-San> Krimpet: I'm sure the police will understand if it's L-2... and if not, you could "explain" it to them pretty well, I think. >.>
2008-01-13 00:16 < Leslie_S> so for the follow up inspection to see if we cleaned up our act or not, we had to have EVERYTHING absolutely PERFECT that day. and we passed, surprisingly.
2008-01-13 00:16 < Leslie_S> right down to the doors that go from recieving to the sales floor being closed
2008-01-13 00:17 < Leslie_S> (usually propped open)
2008-01-13 00:18 < Xihix> Is anyone not busy and willing to peer review an article?
2008-01-13 00:19 < Schroeder> Xihix: will you support Ron Paul in exchange?
2008-01-13 00:20 < Xihix> Schroeder
2008-01-13 00:20 < Xihix> I already do.
2008-01-13 00:22 < Xihix> Schroeder?
2008-01-13 00:22 < Schroeder> oh, cool
2008-01-13 00:23 < Schroeder> ok, how the hell is my high school basketball team not state-ranked?
2008-01-13 00:23 < Xihix> uhh Schroeder
2008-01-13 00:23 < Xihix> will you peer review?
2008-01-13 00:29 < Dtobias> For the NYC meetup: "Take the elevator to the 13th floor". Spooky... most buildings don't have 13th floors.
2008-01-13 00:30 < Luna-San> NYers don't have time for such superstitions, I suppose. :o
2008-01-13 00:31 < Dtobias> An issue of Action Comics in the 1970s had Clark Kent getting off on the 13th floor of the Daily Planet building by mistake and it turned out to be the secret base of aliens infiltrating Earth.
2008-01-13 00:31 < Lycurgus> where is that (that MOST buildings don't have 13th floors)?
2008-01-13 00:31 < Luna-San> Just so long as the directions don't tell you to hang around the golf course in the wee hours of the morning for the "special event"
2008-01-13 00:31 < Dtobias> {{citation needed}} I guess
2008-01-13 00:31 < Dtobias> Floor numbering differs by country, and sometimes has quirks in particular buildings.
2008-01-13 00:32 < Dtobias> In the US, the 13th floor is usually skipped for superstitious reasons.
2008-01-13 00:32 < Lycurgus> I believe "sometimes" is far more correct that "usually".
2008-01-13 00:33 < Lycurgus> but will pay more attention to it.
2008-01-13 00:33 < JerseyDevil86> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_floor#Conspiracy_theory
2008-01-13 00:33 < Xihix> Is anyone not busy and willing to peer review an article?
2008-01-13 00:34 < JerseyDevil86> "Some conspiracy theorists have suggested that the thirteenth floor in government buildings is not really missing, but actually contains top-secret governmental departments, or more generally that it is proof of something sinister or clandestine going on[citation needed]."
2008-01-13 00:35 < Xihix> You guys know what would be awesome?
2008-01-13 00:36 < Xihix> If we made [citation needed] stickers, and just started going into public and sticking them on phrases anywhere in the streets
2008-01-13 00:36 < Xihix> Like an advertisement that says something like, "The best wireless carrier" or something
2008-01-13 00:36 < JerseyDevil86> http://xkcd.com/285/
2008-01-13 00:36 < MessedRawker> Xihix, that's already been done
2008-01-13 00:37 < Xihix> ... really?
2008-01-13 00:37 < Xihix> Lemmie see
2008-01-13 00:39 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-13 00:39 < uberpenguin> I would seriously consider assaulting anyone who I saw putting stickers like that up
2008-01-13 00:39 < Xihix> aw, you're no fun.
2008-01-13 00:40 < Lycurgus> e didn't say what kind of assault
2008-01-13 00:40 < uberpenguin> hm? assaulting people is fun
2008-01-13 00:40 < uberpenguin> the kind that usually goes with battery
2008-01-13 00:40 < MessedRawker> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/citationneeded/
2008-01-13 00:40 * TheVulcan declares uberpenguin do be illogical
2008-01-13 00:42 < uberpenguin> phoo... take one nap in a ditch in the park and they start declaring you this and that
2008-01-13 00:44 * Lubaf sells his MessedRocker for a RockedMesser.
2008-01-13 00:46 < Xihix> Anyone wanna uhh
2008-01-13 00:46 < Xihix> peer review?
2008-01-13 00:47 < JerseyDevil86> no
2008-01-13 00:47 * Lycurgus ponders the notion of a peer wrt an unspecified discipline.