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2008-01-12 20:45 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-12 20:45 < kim_bruning> Weaselosaurus, doesn't count ;-)
2008-01-12 20:45 < bumm13> it's the home of the Jutes!
2008-01-12 20:45 < Weaselosaurus> well, it's certainly, ahem, special.
2008-01-12 20:45 < kenlyric> mavhk: we feel neither highs NOR lows.
2008-01-12 20:45 < kim_bruning> Weaselosaurus, what's west(er) germany then? :-P
2008-01-12 20:45 * kim_bruning can take a guess at south germany :-P
2008-01-12 20:45 < arcimboldo_> kim_bruning: http://www.musik.is/Lof/Hljod/thjodvocal2.mp3 for the Icelandic one
2008-01-12 20:45 < Weaselosaurus> Luxemburg?
2008-01-12 20:45 * bumm13 lives in West Salishia ;)
2008-01-12 20:45 < Weaselosaurus> Unable to speculate
2008-01-12 20:46 < Weaselosaurus> we want nothing south of Germany
2008-01-12 20:46 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, not too bad!
2008-01-12 20:46 < Weaselosaurus> an exclave in northern Italy would be nice
2008-01-12 20:46 < Weaselosaurus> :-D
2008-01-12 20:46 < bumm13> (a portion of NW Cascadia)
2008-01-12 20:46 < kim_bruning> Weaselosaurus, nice and warm!
2008-01-12 20:46 < Weaselosaurus> no more Anschluss
2008-01-12 20:46 < kenlyric> between B5, The Simpsons, and the various Joss Whedon shows, I have a quote for every occasion.
2008-01-12 20:46 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, hmm, I wonder about .jp too now :-)
2008-01-12 20:47 < mavhk> I need dueSouth too, just in case someone shoots me in the hat
2008-01-12 20:48 < MessedRocker> I CAN'T WAIT TO BOMB SOME DODONGOS!
2008-01-12 20:48 < kenlyric> probably several animated shows as well.
2008-01-12 20:49 < kim_bruning> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2lviag8ANk
2008-01-12 20:49 < Luna-San> kenlyric: You're riding a goat, and get into a head-on collision with someone riding a donkey. What's your quote? o.o
2008-01-12 20:49 < kenlyric> for instance "imbecile, freeze it, then cut it" has come up in conversation many times.
2008-01-12 20:49 < kim_bruning> hmm, kinda old ver :-P
2008-01-12 20:49 < kenlyric> Luna-San: dying tickles
2008-01-12 20:49 < Luna-San> Hmm
2008-01-12 20:49 < arcimboldo_> kim_bruning: first the Hungarian: http://musi.ca/refer/istenald.MP3 (the performance quality isn't as good)
2008-01-12 20:49 < geniice> the lession from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_stand is don't get involved in one
2008-01-12 20:49 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2lviag8ANk <- this link for you :-)
2008-01-12 20:50 < arcimboldo_> New Zealand, nice.
2008-01-12 20:50 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, *nodnodnodnodnodnodnodnod*
2008-01-12 20:50 < kenlyric> Luna-San: I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me superman.
2008-01-12 20:51 < kenlyric> some of the quotes are good for many situations.
2008-01-12 20:51 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, you definitely like a particular style!
2008-01-12 20:52 < arcimboldo_> The Japanese one in "boxing fight style" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odlsbUQoQSM&feature=related
2008-01-12 20:53 < arcimboldo_> Here in a more conventional style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7KvgKqROy8&feature=related
2008-01-12 20:55 < mavhk> geniice: who had the highest ratio and still won?
2008-01-12 20:56 < geniice> Rorke's Drift probably
2008-01-12 20:57 < geniice> in terms of damage [[Battle_of_Saragarhi]] but to be fair they lost
2008-01-12 20:59 < arcimboldo_> kim_bruning: but the Italian one is different in style from the Icelandic and Hungarian one: mms://media.quirinale.it/musiche/InnoM.wma
2008-01-12 20:59 < kim_bruning> hmm, do you have a non-mms link?
2008-01-12 21:00 * kim_bruning tries youtube
2008-01-12 21:00 < mavhk> ok, new rule, if any 2 wikipedians are fighting over the honour of their country in some war that happened years ago they must meet up and duel to the death
2008-01-12 21:00 < kim_bruning> Heh, that's REALLY different
2008-01-12 21:00 < kim_bruning> also nice
2008-01-12 21:01 < geniice> mavhk [[Battle of Longewala]] probably second
2008-01-12 21:01 < kim_bruning> mavhk, heh why? I always like to tease british folks
2008-01-12 21:01 < party> hi
2008-01-12 21:01 < kim_bruning> I'd have to fight a lot of duels ;-)
2008-01-12 21:01 < kim_bruning> hello party!
2008-01-12 21:01 < uberpenguin> party party join us join us
2008-01-12 21:01 < mavhk> kim_bruning: well, it'll half the number of nutters
2008-01-12 21:01 < geniice> mavhk who gets to pick the weapons
2008-01-12 21:01 * kim_bruning should start taking lessons from habj and jossi then
2008-01-12 21:01 < party> gosh
2008-01-12 21:01 < party> i fucking love Lush!
2008-01-12 21:01 < kim_bruning> geniice, what, not MMA? :-P
2008-01-12 21:01 < kim_bruning> party, Lush?
2008-01-12 21:02 < mavhk> history, the newest common weapon of their respective countries is to be used
2008-01-12 21:02 < geniice> kim_bruning that would be empty hand
2008-01-12 21:02 < party> cosmetic stores
2008-01-12 21:02 < party> they sell fresh and handmade bath products
2008-01-12 21:02 < arcimboldo_> Just the instrumental versions on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Canto_degli_Italiani
2008-01-12 21:02 < geniice> kim_bruning eurofighter? not sure we could afford it
2008-01-12 21:02 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, .ru is nice too :-)
2008-01-12 21:02 < kim_bruning> geniice, does gb use jsf? :)
2008-01-12 21:03 < arcimboldo_> True ... especially when sung by the Red Army Choir
2008-01-12 21:03 < geniice> kim_bruning not out yet will do though
2008-01-12 21:03 < kim_bruning> we could settle on goalkeepers ... GAU-8 avenger FTW :-)
2008-01-12 21:03 < kim_bruning> also, since those are full-auto (including auto-aim) , we could just walk off and leave 'em to it ;-)
2008-01-12 21:03 < kim_bruning> kinda the safe, robotic approach ;-)
2008-01-12 21:04 < kim_bruning> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeeper_CIWS
2008-01-12 21:04 < arcimboldo_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLcc19mt4eA
2008-01-12 21:04 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, the french national anthem is kinda famous too :-)
2008-01-12 21:05 < party> I'm a guy and i tried the feet cream
2008-01-12 21:05 < party> for men
2008-01-12 21:05 < arcimboldo_> "qu'un sanq impur appreuve nos sillons"
2008-01-12 21:05 < party> and it smelled absolutely divine
2008-01-12 21:05 < party> um
2008-01-12 21:06 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, ussr anthem rocks too
2008-01-12 21:06 < party> it's qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillions
2008-01-12 21:06 < party> your french sucks
2008-01-12 21:06 < party> lol
2008-01-12 21:07 < arcimboldo_> I knew I would have got it wrong ...
2008-01-12 21:07 < arcimboldo_> It was over 20 years ago that we went through that anthem in school ...
2008-01-12 21:07 < Filanca`> wow i surpassed all my friends in my second try of traverllers iq challenge! at last, there is a concrete benefit of encyclopedic knowledge in my life!
2008-01-12 21:08 < uberpenguin> Filanca`: indeed! finally, your friends respect you as a person and don't view you as a nerd!
2008-01-12 21:08 < kim_bruning> geniice, the goalkeeper comment was for you. :-)
2008-01-12 21:08 < uberpenguin> wai...
2008-01-12 21:08 < mavhk> the uk national anthem has rarely sung verses about crushing the scottish rebellion, which is nice
2008-01-12 21:09 < uberpenguin> aliens... turning ordinary people...
2008-01-12 21:09 < uberpenguin> into scots
2008-01-12 21:09 < geniice> kim_bruning perhaps but allowing remote weapons will simply result in very short duels being carried out with ICBMs
2008-01-12 21:09 < kim_bruning> the usa anthem is also very famous :-)
2008-01-12 21:09 < arcimboldo_> Here an even more nostalgic version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gimn_partii_bolshevikov.ogg
2008-01-12 21:09 < kim_bruning> geniice, VERY short ;-)
2008-01-12 21:10 < mavhk> uberpenguin: they'll never win at tennis
2008-01-12 21:10 < arcimboldo_> Actually, I prefer "Rule Britannia" over the UK anthem ...
2008-01-12 21:10 < uberpenguin> you never know
2008-01-12 21:11 < uberpenguin> the blancmange is a dangerous and crafty beast
2008-01-12 21:11 < uberpenguin> nice job spotting that one, mavhk
2008-01-12 21:11 < uberpenguin> I figured that one was pretty obscure
2008-01-12 21:11 < kim_bruning> God save the queen!
2008-01-12 21:11 < kim_bruning> :-)
2008-01-12 21:13 < geniice> uploader claims on their talk page to be copyright holder. do we belive them (not entirely safe for work}
2008-01-12 21:13 < geniice> ::::
2008-01-12 21:13 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bobby%26Flex2.jpg
2008-01-12 21:13 < mavhk> Angus how are y'going to get 48,000,000 kilts into the....oh god, I can't go on, so sorry, the car just came too fast and she was right there and I saw her and then it was a blur and so much I ran to help didn't know she wasn't moving so sorry
2008-01-12 21:14 < uberpenguin> hawt, rest of series plz
2008-01-12 21:15 < geniice> uberpenguin not helpful
2008-01-12 21:15 < geniice> uberpenguin copyvio y/N?
2008-01-12 21:15 < uberpenguin> DK
2008-01-12 21:15 < FastLizard4> geniice: Me thinks yes
2008-01-12 21:15 < FastLizard4> but I am not very sure about it
2008-01-12 21:15 < geniice> FastLizard4 see uploaders talk page though
2008-01-12 21:15 < kenlyric> geniice: "not entirely?" :)
2008-01-12 21:16 < kim_bruning> mavhk, that's just gotta be a quote from somewhere
2008-01-12 21:16 < uberpenguin> just delete it unilaterally in the hopes it will spark a diatribe, a shitstorm, and a flame war
2008-01-12 21:16 < uberpenguin> that's what I would do
2008-01-12 21:16 < geniice> I can't not on en
2008-01-12 21:16 < mavhk> yes, it's an obscureoff!
2008-01-12 21:17 < arcimboldo_> http://www.cix.co.uk/~lumpkin/rulebrit.mp3
2008-01-12 21:18 < geniice> kenlyric it only contians a tiny amount of genitalia
2008-01-12 21:18 < arcimboldo_> [[The Roast Beef of Old England]] has the nicest lyrics though ... :-)
2008-01-12 21:18 < kenlyric> that didn't look very tiny.
2008-01-12 21:18 < party> do you guys have a summer job yet?
2008-01-12 21:19 < mavhk> we're not australian, so no
2008-01-12 21:19 < party> no shit
2008-01-12 21:19 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, RULE BRITANNIA! :)
2008-01-12 21:19 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, can we sink their ships ... again? :-P
2008-01-12 21:20 * kim_bruning looks innocent
2008-01-12 21:20 < mavhk> kim_bruning: I was entirely missing the point of http://xkcd.com/16/
2008-01-12 21:20 < kim_bruning> Oh right, now I need to duel someone? :-P
2008-01-12 21:20 < arcimboldo_> Hm ... the last attempts have been a little unsuccessful.
2008-01-12 21:21 < kim_bruning> mavhk, yay for monty python!
2008-01-12 21:21 < kim_bruning> mavhk, but do you know how long he realised the connection? ....
2008-01-12 21:21 < mavhk> who?
2008-01-12 21:21 < kim_bruning> mavhk, http://xkcd.com/353/
2008-01-12 21:22 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, Eh? we've practically always been good at sinking them... one of our companies had some trouble going toe-toe with them though... meh, details
2008-01-12 21:22 < kim_bruning> (companies prolly shouldn't go toe-to-toe with major western powers anyway :-P )
2008-01-12 21:22 < arcimboldo_> Ah, then the Dutch were more successful than the Spanish and the Germans.
2008-01-12 21:23 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, in the end, they invented steam mills, and we were stuck with our entire supply of windmills
2008-01-12 21:23 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, everyone gets passed in the end :-)
2008-01-12 21:23 < Weaselosaurus> hm
2008-01-12 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-05.html
2008-01-12 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> A passing cabbie found a 21 year-old couple naked and injured in the road an hour before sunrise. The two people died at the nearest hospital without regaining consciousness. Authorities were at a loss to explain what had happened. There were no witnesses, no trace of clothing, and no wrecked cars or motorcycles.
2008-01-12 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> Investigators eventually found a clue high on the roof of a nearby building: two sets of neatly folded clothes. Safe sex takes on a whole new meaning when you are perched on the edge of a pyramid-shaped metal roof. "It appears as if [they] accidentally fell off the roof," Sgt. Florence McCants said.
2008-01-12 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> Roof_cat is watching you
2008-01-12 21:26 < geniice> 10?"die"
2008-01-12 21:26 < geniice> 20 goto 10
2008-01-12 21:27 < Weaselosaurus> ON hunger GOTO fridge ELSE return
2008-01-12 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> Weaselosaurus - "ON" is not a proper programming directive. Only an interrupt can be programmed that way
2008-01-12 21:28 < Weaselosaurus> Yea right, as if I knew what that is :-D
2008-01-12 21:28 < kim_bruning> Weaselosaurus, ON X GOTO 10,50,90
2008-01-12 21:28 < kim_bruning> IIRC
2008-01-12 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Interrupt]]
2008-01-12 21:28 < kim_bruning> more of a select-ish construct, but for the GOTO afflicted
2008-01-12 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> In computing, an interrupt is an asynchronous signal from hardware indicating the need for attention or a synchronous event in software indicating the need for a change in execution.
2008-01-12 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> in this case, the "asynchronous signal" is your tummy rumbling
2008-01-12 21:29 < kim_bruning> Weaselosaurus, IF hungry GOTO fridge ?
2008-01-12 21:29 < kim_bruning> hmm
2008-01-12 21:29 < geniice> 20input"hunger";A$
2008-01-12 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> and going to the fridge is your way of servicing the interrupt
2008-01-12 21:29 < geniice> 20If hunger=y then Goto 40
2008-01-12 21:29 < geniice> 20 end
2008-01-12 21:29 < geniice> 40 ?"goto fridge"
2008-01-12 21:29 < kim_bruning> if (hungry) feet.walkto(fridge);
2008-01-12 21:30 < geniice> 10input"hunger";A$
2008-01-12 21:30 < geniice> 20If a$=y then Goto 40
2008-01-12 21:30 < geniice> 30 end
2008-01-12 21:30 < geniice> 40 ?"goto fridge"
2008-01-12 21:30 < kim_bruning> if (hungry) feet.walkTo(fridge); //gotta be anal about caps :-P
2008-01-12 21:30 < Weaselosaurus> probably, I've written maybe six lines of code in my life and those were in a language I don't even remember
2008-01-12 21:30 < kim_bruning> or python
2008-01-12 21:30 < Weaselosaurus> I realize the number thing is from BASIC
2008-01-12 21:30 < kim_bruning> if hungry:
2008-01-12 21:30 * Ceiling_Cat NP - Sweet Home Alabama
2008-01-12 21:30 < kim_bruning> feet.walkto(fridge)
2008-01-12 21:30 < uberpenguin> laff @ skynard
2008-01-12 21:31 < Weaselosaurus> skynYrd
2008-01-12 21:31 < geniice> Weaselosaurus commodore basic the use of ? is not allowed in all versions
2008-01-12 21:31 < uberpenguin> that was a redneck test
2008-01-12 21:31 < uberpenguin> guess who just passed?
2008-01-12 21:31 * Ceiling_Cat lulz
2008-01-12 21:31 < kenlyric> he's probably listening to the Jewel version.
2008-01-12 21:31 < kim_bruning> geniice,20 IF A$="Y" THEN GOTO 40
2008-01-12 21:31 < Weaselosaurus> the first nascar dad band
2008-01-12 21:31 < Ceiling_Cat> Well I hope Neil Young will remember // a southern man don't need him around anyhow
2008-01-12 21:31 * uberpenguin lives in georgia and thereby is required to know how to spell lynyrd skynyrd
2008-01-12 21:31 * Ceiling_Cat offers condolences to uberpenguin
2008-01-12 21:31 < geniice> kim_bruning commodore forces all caps so yes
2008-01-12 21:31 < kim_bruning> geniice, else it'd be comparing a string variable with a numeric variable (that and some basics are case sensitive :-P )
2008-01-12 21:31 < Takamatsu> Hey guys? I can't find an article about [[tv snow]]. Any suggestions?
2008-01-12 21:32 < kim_bruning> geniice, the quotes are the problem :-P
2008-01-12 21:32 < uberpenguin> Ceiling_Cat: none necessary, it's not too bad here
2008-01-12 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> You know how Mav described moving from San Francisco to Atlanta?
2008-01-12 21:32 < geniice> kim_bruning true
2008-01-12 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> (he's gay, btw, so that should give you an idea of his perspective)
2008-01-12 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> He described Atlanta as an island of blue in a sea of red
2008-01-12 21:32 < kim_bruning> Ceiling_Cat, do tell
2008-01-12 21:32 < kenlyric> what kind of gay idiot would make that move?
2008-01-12 21:32 < kenlyric> HOTLANTA
2008-01-12 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> kenlyric - one with a job
2008-01-12 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> that required him to move
2008-01-12 21:32 < uberpenguin> kenlyric: a gay idiot who wants to actually own property without sacrificing his firstborn
2008-01-12 21:33 < kenlyric> it's like a sea of rainbow...
2008-01-12 21:33 < MessediPhone> a sea
2008-01-12 21:33 * Takamatsu would like to know what [[TV Snow]] (that is, visual static) called on WP.
2008-01-12 21:33 < Weaselosaurus> Property is feft.
2008-01-12 21:33 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - I'm hearing predictions that property prices will decline a further 15-20% in 2008
2008-01-12 21:33 < MessediPhone> oh dear
2008-01-12 21:33 * Ceiling_Cat hopes that's an underestimate
2008-01-12 21:33 < geniice> commodore did have the fun feature that it would view QWERA and QWERB as the same variable
2008-01-12 21:33 < uberpenguin> the people I know who work in real estate and construction say that they don't expect the housing market to get back on the rise until 2010 at earliest
2008-01-12 21:33 * Big-Brother doubleplusspeak newspeak doubleplusgood fullwise
2008-01-12 21:33 * Ceiling_Cat prays for the real estate market to tank
2008-01-12 21:33 < kim_bruning> geniice, I liked the BBC B better
2008-01-12 21:34 * Ceiling_Cat watches Big-Brother watch you masturbate
2008-01-12 21:34 < uberpenguin> Ceiling_Cat: your prayers are already answered
2008-01-12 21:34 < kim_bruning> geniice, the interesting thing was when I bought an Archimedes... which is techically a BBC too... :-P
2008-01-12 21:34 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - no, it's still holding on
2008-01-12 21:34 < kim_bruning> VERY technically speaking :-P
2008-01-12 21:34 < Ceiling_Cat> I mean I really want it to tank
2008-01-12 21:34 < uberpenguin> not here
2008-01-12 21:34 < MessediPhone> I have a feeling that my days in the united states are numbered
2008-01-12 21:34 < kim_bruning> MessediPhone, oh?
2008-01-12 21:34 * Lubaf watches Ceiling_Cat watching Big-Brother watching kim_bruning, uberpenguin, and MessediPhone masterbate.
2008-01-12 21:34 < Weaselosaurus> Takamatsu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_%28video%29
2008-01-12 21:34 < kim_bruning> Lubaf, ?
2008-01-12 21:34 < uberpenguin> ah, so you're basically waiting for a recession so bad that even the current administration can't deny it with a straight face...
2008-01-12 21:35 < uberpenguin> Lubaf: spell masturbate right, you dork
2008-01-12 21:35 < Lubaf> Sorry. That last word should have been rasterbate.
2008-01-12 21:35 < Takamatsu> Aw, thanks. I was starting to think some room admin muted me while I was not here.
2008-01-12 21:35 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - not an economy-wide recession, just the housing market
2008-01-12 21:35 < Ceiling_Cat> although, admittedly, shit that starts in the housing market doesn't stay there
2008-01-12 21:35 < MessediPhone> the US is going to hell in. handbaskets
2008-01-12 21:35 < Ceiling_Cat> but housing prices are *WAY* too high
2008-01-12 21:35 < uberpenguin> Ceiling_Cat: correct
2008-01-12 21:35 * Big-Brother arrest Lubaf for thoughtcrime fullwise
2008-01-12 21:35 < Weaselosaurus> Welcome. :-)
2008-01-12 21:35 < Ceiling_Cat> they're twice what they should be
2008-01-12 21:35 < uberpenguin> and I won't patronize you by telling you what started the housing market decline
2008-01-12 21:35 < Ceiling_Cat> seee [[Image:Shiller IE2 Fig 2-1.png]]
2008-01-12 21:35 < uberpenguin> it's not just housing that tanks
2008-01-12 21:35 < Takamatsu> That's what Phelps says, iPhone
2008-01-12 21:36 < MessediPhone> except I mean economically
2008-01-12 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> housing prices are, even adjusting for inflation, 185% of what they were in 1890
2008-01-12 21:36 < uberpenguin> let's see... what $250k would get you in this area would probably cost about $600k in SF
2008-01-12 21:37 < uberpenguin> or I should say "near SF"
2008-01-12 21:37 < uberpenguin> you obviously can't get anything IN SF
2008-01-12 21:37 < Lubaf> Ceiling_Cat: I'll buy about 150% of that as valid.
2008-01-12 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - as a whole, the Boswash corridor has the most expensive large-area real estate prices anywhere
2008-01-12 21:37 < kim_bruning> sf obviously stands for "science fiction:
2008-01-12 21:38 < uberpenguin> barring being quite well off or suddenly discovering a long lost chinese bloodline in your family...
2008-01-12 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> lubaf - the data comes straight out of [[Irrational Exuberance]]
2008-01-12 21:38 < Lubaf> Ceiling_Cat: I know.
2008-01-12 21:38 < Takamatsu> Cat, you mean 1980?
2008-01-12 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> Takamatsu - no, I mean 1890
2008-01-12 21:38 < Lubaf> What I'm saying is that I can understand where all but 35% of that comes from.
2008-01-12 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> if the prices of 1890 = 100
2008-01-12 21:38 < Takamatsu> 1890 is quite a stretch if you ask me. People got their own building materials from the forest. That's why it was so cheap
2008-01-12 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> then in 1990 they were at about 110
2008-01-12 21:38 < Takamatsu> 1913 = 100 according to the [[CPI]]
2008-01-12 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> and today they are at 185
2008-01-12 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Takamatsu - CPI does not adaquently represent the real estate market
2008-01-12 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> CPI uses a basket of goods
2008-01-12 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> real estate prices have increased *way* out of proportion to inflation
2008-01-12 21:39 < Lubaf> I prefer the Big Mac Index, anyway.
2008-01-12 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> that's my point
2008-01-12 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> see [[Image:Shiller IE2 Fig 2-1.png]]
2008-01-12 21:39 < Takamatsu> Homeowners never had to buy preexisting houses (nearly as often) nor order construction supplies from someone else, they brought their own and chopped their own down back in 1890
2008-01-12 21:39 * arcimboldo_ now has to go to [[Ryōgoku Kokugikan]] to watch the Sumo tournament.
2008-01-12 21:41 < Takamatsu> And now, sorry to be direct, our own laziness is rising our prices. We keep having someone else do something for us, and pay them to, so that explains part of it
2008-01-12 21:41 < Takamatsu> dang, Cat already left
2008-01-12 21:41 < Takamatsu> and he's backk
2008-01-12 21:41 < Takamatsu> And now, sorry to be direct, our own laziness is rising our prices. We keep having someone else do something for us, and pay them to, so that explains part of it, Ceiling_Cat
2008-01-12 21:42 < Ceiling_Cat> sorry, mirc keeps quitting on me
2008-01-12 21:42 < LuciferTiger> use chatzilla
2008-01-12 21:42 < Takamatsu> Tried X-Chat?
2008-01-12 21:42 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm thinking about using chatzilla
2008-01-12 21:42 < Takamatsu> New Now Know How
2008-01-12 21:42 < LuciferTiger> good choice cousin
2008-01-12 21:43 < uberpenguin> hurf
2008-01-12 21:43 < Takamatsu> You keep getting named NNKH.
2008-01-12 21:43 < uberpenguin> I really need to get a book on NLD, but books are so darn expensive
2008-01-12 21:43 < kim_bruning> bookz iz cheap
2008-01-12 21:43 < arcimboldo_> XChat does not enable tab-specific charsets, hence I always had to choose whether I preferred to get the German Umlauts or the Japanese Kanji scrambled ...
2008-01-12 21:43 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, suxx0r
2008-01-12 21:43 < uberpenguin> lies
2008-01-12 21:44 < kim_bruning> why doesn't everyone just use UTF-8 ?
2008-01-12 21:44 < arcimboldo_> #wikipedia-ja uses ISO-2022-JP
2008-01-12 21:44 < Ceiling_Cat> kim - because UTF-8 discriminates against klingons
2008-01-12 21:45 < kim_bruning> arcimboldo_, I know ^^;;
2008-01-12 21:45 < kim_bruning> Ceiling_Cat, NOOOOOO!
2008-01-12 21:45 < bumm13> hiya uberpenguin
2008-01-12 21:45 < arcimboldo_> Anyhow - have a nice day everybody
2008-01-12 21:45 < Weaselosaurus> does it support exotic IPA?
2008-01-12 21:45 < kim_bruning> Weaselosaurus, I THINK so
2008-01-12 21:45 < bumm13> all IPA characters are in Unicode
2008-01-12 21:45 < bumm13> (UTF-8 range)
2008-01-12 21:45 < Weaselosaurus> cool
2008-01-12 21:46 < uberpenguin> hey bumm13
2008-01-12 21:46 < bumm13> Unicode is vast :x
2008-01-12 21:46 < Takamatsu> i meant you keep getting named NNKH on Chatzilla
2008-01-12 21:46 < uberpenguin> bumm13: I totally conned a few other people into doing my senior project idea :3
2008-01-12 21:46 < bumm13> heck, it even includes the old IBM PC box drawing characters :x
2008-01-12 21:47 < Takamatsu> Then I guess UTF-8 is one big p'takh of a program, Cat.
2008-01-12 21:47 < uberpenguin> IPA is such massive fail
2008-01-12 21:48 < uberpenguin> it reminds me of futurama...
2008-01-12 21:48 < uberpenguin> "Can you translate it?"
2008-01-12 21:48 < uberpenguin> "Of course. But only into Beta Crypt 3, a language so complex there's even less chance of understanding it."
2008-01-12 21:48 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-12 21:49 < bumm13> uberpenguin: what was that idea?
2008-01-12 21:49 < uberpenguin> I can't even fathom how IPA became a standard on wikipedia
2008-01-12 21:49 < uberpenguin> when we couldn't even standardize using mebibytes without people getting REALLY REALLY pissy
2008-01-12 21:49 < uberpenguin> bumm13: vacuum tube based theremin
2008-01-12 21:50 < bumm13> :F
2008-01-12 21:50 < bumm13> er
2008-01-12 21:50 < bumm13> :D
2008-01-12 21:50 < bumm13> any character encoding with die faces and playing card symbols (pips) is teh awesome :-)
2008-01-12 21:50 < Weaselosaurus> nɪçt ʃlɛçt
2008-01-12 21:51 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - because other than on Wikipedia, I think I've seen mebibytes in print *once* in my entire career
2008-01-12 21:51 < FastLizard4> Hey, It's krimpet!
2008-01-12 21:51 < uberpenguin> is IPA actually used in print, then?
2008-01-12 21:51 < Krimpet> hello
2008-01-12 21:51 < Ceiling_Cat> uberpenguin - for linguistics, it might well be
2008-01-12 21:51 < FastLizard4> Weaselosaurus: ɓuɪɥʇou s,ʇɐɥʇ
2008-01-12 21:51 < Weaselosaurus> it's good to show off one's dialect
2008-01-12 21:51 < uberpenguin> *might*
2008-01-12 21:51 * Ceiling_Cat knows very little about linguistics outside of his quizbowl knowledge
2008-01-12 21:51 < Weaselosaurus> even though this was standard German
2008-01-12 21:51 < uberpenguin> FYI, I've seen mebibytes used twice in professional journals :P
2008-01-12 21:54 < bumm13> (20,509 CJK characters don't hurt any ;)
2008-01-12 21:55 * Weaselosaurus ɪs bɔ:d
2008-01-12 21:55 < uberpenguin> anyway, insofar as I can see, the arguments for and against IPA are pretty similar to those for and against IEC binary prefixes
2008-01-12 21:57 < FastLizard4> Metroiod?!
2008-01-12 21:58 * FastLizard4 finds a phaser rifle
2008-01-12 21:59 < uberpenguin> ice shot needed
2008-01-12 21:59 * FastLizard4 sets phaser to maximum
2008-01-12 21:59 * Weaselosaurus ʃʊd gɘʊ tɘ bɛd
2008-01-12 21:59 < Weaselosaurus> night
2008-01-12 22:01 < MessedRocker> yeah, FastLizard4
2008-01-12 22:01 < MessedRocker> you kill a metroid with the ice beam and then five missiles
2008-01-12 22:01 < MessedRocker> or is it three
2008-01-12 22:01 < FastLizard4> five
2008-01-12 22:01 < FastLizard4> (hint hint: I know)
2008-01-12 22:02 < Weaselosaurus> or rather "naɪt"
2008-01-12 22:02 < MessedRocker> you have beaten metroid?
2008-01-12 22:03 < FastLizard4> Super Metroid
2008-01-12 22:03 < Xihix> Anyone not busy and up to do some Wikipedia work?
2008-01-12 22:03 * FastLizard4 no
2008-01-12 22:03 < Luna-San> In Super Metroid, you can also be lazy and just use a super missile, post-freezing.
2008-01-12 22:04 * bumm13 slaps Xihix around a bit with a slide rule
2008-01-12 22:05 < Luna-San> In fact, I think doing so might be more item-efficient -- the metroid will drop I think three items, so probably one missile to replenish, plus some energy.
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> i've beaten Metroid Prime 3
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> then again that game was pretty easy
2008-01-12 22:06 * Luna-San hasn't played anything past SM. >.>;
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> games are too easy
2008-01-12 22:06 < kenlyric> the end boss should be a reward for the rest of the game. I prefer games like that.
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> the trial galaxies in super mario galaxy is probably the closest thing to the Special Zone of SMW
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> except not so secret
2008-01-12 22:06 < bumm13> MessedRocker: play older games :P
2008-01-12 22:06 < kenlyric> I don't like them when the end boss is 10x harder and random.
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> the trial galaxies? too easy
2008-01-12 22:06 < kenlyric> like final fantasy 1.
2008-01-12 22:06 < Xihix> ehhhh
2008-01-12 22:06 < MessedRocker> bumm13, i frequently do
2008-01-12 22:07 < Luna-San> Sounds like you need Shinobi. Every review I've ever read goes either "This game is so hard, it rocks!" or "This game is so hard, it sucks!"
2008-01-12 22:07 < Xihix> I like FF8...
2008-01-12 22:07 < kenlyric> CHAOS casts CUR4... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2008-01-12 22:07 < bumm13> any Simpsons game tends to be rather difficult
2008-01-12 22:07 < Luna-San> kenlyric: I forget, would he only do that once, or was it just at random?
2008-01-12 22:07 < kenlyric> random
2008-01-12 22:07 < Luna-San> Ohhh, lord.
2008-01-12 22:07 < Xihix> Simpsons game?
2008-01-12 22:07 < kenlyric> so you could Wall against it, but wall might expire.
2008-01-12 22:07 < Xihix> Hmm... I didn't like many of them, but Hit and Run was a fun game.
2008-01-12 22:08 < kenlyric> my favorite end level/boss is half-life2. It's just a cakewalk.
2008-01-12 22:08 < kenlyric> the level before it is crazy hard though.
2008-01-12 22:08 < uberpenguin> MessedRocker: you're not a metroid player until you do speed runs or no energy tank runs
2008-01-12 22:08 < kenlyric> so the last level is like a relaxing fun reward where your gravity gun can fling people around.
2008-01-12 22:08 < Luna-San> In retrospect, the last fight in Half-Life 2 is kinda anti-climatic, but at the time I was so pumped with adrenaline it was nothing but sheer awesome.
2008-01-12 22:08 < uberpenguin> or the best ones, no item pickup runs
2008-01-12 22:08 < MessedRocker> i prefer watching speed runs
2008-01-12 22:08 < uberpenguin> those are insane
2008-01-12 22:08 < MessedRocker> in fact, i've watched the super metroid speed run like 5 times
2008-01-12 22:08 < Luna-San> kenlyric: Heh, same thought :p
2008-01-12 22:08 < MessedRocker> i once watched a 2-hour speedrun of Super Mario Sunshine so I could say I did
2008-01-12 22:09 < kenlyric> I'm sorry friends, but nothing beats four white mages in FF1.
2008-01-12 22:09 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, the hardest game ever is called [[zarch]]
2008-01-12 22:09 < kenlyric> PREPARE FOR TORTURE
2008-01-12 22:09 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, if you *touch* the mouse, you explode on the pad
2008-01-12 22:09 < Monobi> the hardest game ever is GH3 on expert
2008-01-12 22:09 < Xihix> lies.
2008-01-12 22:09 < Luna-San> kim_bruning: :o
2008-01-12 22:09 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, to merely stay in hover requires precice mouse control...
2008-01-12 22:09 < uberpenguin> not really... GH3 is nothing
2008-01-12 22:09 < Xihix> I hate games like Guitar Hero
2008-01-12 22:09 < gwern> Luna-San: Shinobi? Sure you don't mean Ninja Gaiden?
2008-01-12 22:09 < uberpenguin> beatmania is the king of absolutely insane rhythm games
2008-01-12 22:09 < Xihix> overrated, casual games
2008-01-12 22:09 < Monobi> GH3 is fun
2008-01-12 22:09 < Xihix> Casual games are the cancer that is killing vidya gaems
2008-01-12 22:10 < gwern> one of my proudest video gaming moments is beating Ninja Gaiden Black on normal
2008-01-12 22:10 < Monobi> meh
2008-01-12 22:10 < Monobi> Xihix, what kind of games do you like
2008-01-12 22:10 < Xihix> Which is a reason why I dislike Wii..
2008-01-12 22:10 < SNORLAX> [[pop'n music]] and [[beatmania IIDX]] are about the same level of difficulty
2008-01-12 22:10 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, every bullet fired deducts one point from your score, so it is actually possible for a slug or a dried up piece of litchen to score better than a human player (0 vs -100 :-P ) , a comparison that the game does not hesitate to make
2008-01-12 22:10 < Luna-San> gwern: Unfortunately I never got many chances to play those. Unless we count the old NES editions. :p
2008-01-12 22:10 < Xihix> Mostly classic games.
2008-01-12 22:10 < gwern> wii has *so* many stupid games
2008-01-12 22:10 < uberpenguin> Xihix: yeah, those damn video game companies... trying to make games that sell well and move consoles
2008-01-12 22:10 < uberpenguin> damn them to hell
2008-01-12 22:10 < bumm13> haha
2008-01-12 22:10 < uberpenguin> video gaming isn't about profitability, it's about impressing nerdy shut-ins
2008-01-12 22:10 < Xihix> uber, you're not getting my point
2008-01-12 22:10 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, did I mention that you have a rapid-fire autocannon? so your score goes down REALLY REALLY FAST
2008-01-12 22:10 < MessedRocker> gwern, too few wii games are out at one time
2008-01-12 22:10 < kenlyric> yeah, how dare they make games for people who don't live under the ground.
2008-01-12 22:10 < Luna-San> kim_bruning: Interesting. o.o
2008-01-12 22:10 < MessedRocker> that's why i got an xbox 360 to augment my video gaming
2008-01-12 22:10 < uberpenguin> no, I'm mocking your point
2008-01-12 22:10 < kenlyric> casual games do absolutely nothing to the rest of us.
2008-01-12 22:11 < Krimpet> what's wrong with casual games that you can have fun with for half an hour, then go do something else?
2008-01-12 22:11 < Xihix> Yes, they are being successful. But, they're more interested in money than making an actual good game nowadays.
2008-01-12 22:11 < bumm13> nothing
2008-01-12 22:11 < gwern> Luna-San: well, the old NES ones are good too, but Gaiden/Black/Sigma are famously hard
2008-01-12 22:11 < uberpenguin> nothing in my mind
2008-01-12 22:11 < gwern> incredible games though
2008-01-12 22:11 < kenlyric> sometimes you can play both casual and non-casual games!
2008-01-12 22:11 < SNORLAX> wikipedia is a casual mmorpg
2008-01-12 22:11 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, basically you are SO proud when you finally manage to actually find and shoot down your first alien ^^;;;;;
2008-01-12 22:11 < Luna-San> Iiinteresting
2008-01-12 22:11 < uberpenguin> Xihix: mm... I have to say that every wii game I own is pretty damn good
2008-01-12 22:11 < Krimpet> do all games need a ton of effort and hours of your life to dedicate to them? :P
2008-01-12 22:11 < Xihix> they suck.
2008-01-12 22:11 < MessedRocker> i got my wii in February 2007. I had to wait until April to get Mario Party, August for Metroid, December for Mario Galaxy, and now I will be waiting until February, April, and May for Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Wii Fit
2008-01-12 22:11 < Weaselosaurus> Wtf, "wh" is pronounced differently from w?
2008-01-12 22:11 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, I think the reason anyone played it at all was because it was the first game that came bundled with the archimedes... so 'till you bought some more games, you were kinda stuck with it
2008-01-12 22:11 < Luna-San> kim_bruning: Heh. Well, I think more oldschool gamers are more willing to work for it. Or at least to do so without more obvious, immediate payoff.
2008-01-12 22:12 < Weaselosaurus> Why didn't anybody tell me?
2008-01-12 22:12 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, it did make you REALLY good with the mouse though ;-)
2008-01-12 22:12 < Xihix> Galaxy - sucks. Twilight - On GC, still not that great
2008-01-12 22:12 < uberpenguin> oh well, one less wii customer in the world
2008-01-12 22:12 < SNORLAX> because nobdy actually says it that way
2008-01-12 22:12 < Xihix> Metroid - Ok, good game.
2008-01-12 22:12 < gwern> Luna-San: I believe Penny Arcade characterized it as 'Shit, Ninja Gaiden is hard - It's so hard that you'll die, your family will die, and your friends will die!'
2008-01-12 22:12 < Xihix> rest = shit
2008-01-12 22:12 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, that too, possibly :-)
2008-01-12 22:12 < Weaselosaurus> how does one pronounce "why" as opposed to "Wye"?
2008-01-12 22:12 < MessedRocker> i own... wii sports, wii play, zelda, mario party, metroid, mario galaxy, and guitar hero 3
2008-01-12 22:12 < uberpenguin> Xihix: if nintendo tried to cater to you, they'd be out of business
2008-01-12 22:12 < SNORLAX> some people put a short h sound before the w in why
2008-01-12 22:13 < uberpenguin> so I can't say I blame them for their current non-business-ruining strategy
2008-01-12 22:13 < Weaselosaurus> like "H'waii"?
2008-01-12 22:13 < Weaselosaurus> weird
2008-01-12 22:13 < Weaselosaurus> nobody ever taught me that
2008-01-12 22:13 < Xihix> I'm not the only one, uberpenguin. they're catering to people who started to play video games when XBox came out.
2008-01-12 22:13 < SNORLAX> because nobody actually says it that way
2008-01-12 22:13 < gwern> oh wait, I misquoted PA, sry
2008-01-12 22:13 < Luna-San> gwern: Didn't they have something about hard mode being an actual ninja showing up at your door, too? :p
2008-01-12 22:13 < Xihix> That was about the time casual video game players started
2008-01-12 22:13 < gwern> the actual reference says:
2008-01-12 22:13 < gwern> 'See Penny Arcade - "A Brief Index of Difficulty" for a concise summary of fan reaction; see also Tycho's comment: "Shit damn Ninja Gaiden is hard, it's so hard that your friends will die. It's also completely great - once you've gone a few levels, just start a new game real quick and take a look at the guys you thought were bad-asses before. Those guys are feather pillows compared to the beasts and murderers you rub up against later." Tycho's later ...
2008-01-12 22:13 < Xihix> especially with those stupid sport games and Halo crap
2008-01-12 22:13 < gwern> ... comment: "When you first start playing Ninja Gaiden you might be overwhelmed with its difficulty - that was certainly true in my case. In fact, it was difficult to the degree that it was utterly demoralizing and it ended up on the shelf underneath something else so I wouldn't constantly be reminded of my deficiencies."'
2008-01-12 22:14 < kenlyric> I don't think you know what the "Casual game" genre is if you think Halo is in it.
2008-01-12 22:14 < Xihix> Halo is a casual game
2008-01-12 22:14 < gwern> Luna-San: yes. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/08
2008-01-12 22:14 < uberpenguin> Xihix: whatever, fortunately you're at liberty not to buy any of the wii games which are making nintendo boatloads of cash
2008-01-12 22:14 < kenlyric> Xihix: by what definition?
2008-01-12 22:14 < kenlyric> casual does not mean easy.
2008-01-12 22:14 < gwern> what? how the heck are any of the halos 'casual'?
2008-01-12 22:14 < kenlyric> and easy does not mean casual.
2008-01-12 22:14 < MessedRocker> gwern, why does his controller have shoulder buttons?
2008-01-12 22:15 < gwern> kenlyric: obviously some Xihix specific definiition
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xilinx> I like this name
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xihix> By definition that millions of people play it because it's an overrated piece of poop. I can't really describe what I mean, but many agree with me.
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xihix> See: /v/
2008-01-12 22:15 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, Oh, and apparently, zarch was also the first game in solid 3d :-)
2008-01-12 22:15 < gwern> MessedRocker: clearly he's using some third-party controller with stylized strips on top
2008-01-12 22:15 < MessedRocker> super mario galaxy isn't an overrated piece of poop
2008-01-12 22:15 < SNORLAX> fuck 4chan
2008-01-12 22:15 < Luna-San> kim_bruning: Graphics save the day, eh?
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xihix> did I say it was?
2008-01-12 22:15 < MessedRocker> gwern wasn't ninja gaiden a nes game?
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xilinx> this is getting pretty trolly
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xihix> I was talking about Halo
2008-01-12 22:15 < MessedRocker> or am i confusing it with something else
2008-01-12 22:15 < gwern> Xihix: appealing to 4chan is somewhere up there with saying 'hey, we should do what the Germans did'
2008-01-12 22:15 < Xilinx> and you silly videogame nerds are biting hard
2008-01-12 22:16 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, LOL
2008-01-12 22:16 < Xihix> I may be a video game nerd. But I know whats good or not.
2008-01-12 22:16 < gwern> MessedRocker: I'm talking about the Xbobx/ps3 one
2008-01-12 22:16 < Xihix> And Halo, is not.
2008-01-12 22:16 < Xihix> It's not really even an FPS.
2008-01-12 22:16 < Xilinx> I didn't call you one, I called everyone else one
2008-01-12 22:16 < SNORLAX> I'm just a 4chan detractor
2008-01-12 22:16 < porty> SNORLAX, i say fuck ED
2008-01-12 22:16 < Xihix> Also, too many woman play Halo.
2008-01-12 22:16 < SNORLAX> 4chan sucks more than RFR
2008-01-12 22:16 < MessedRocker> funny how the original xbox's controller was a piece of shit
2008-01-12 22:16 < MessedRocker> and yet the xbox 360 has the best controller i've ever used
2008-01-12 22:17 < MessedRocker> (or tied with wii remote, rather)
2008-01-12 22:17 < Leslie_S> MessedRocker, i thought it was ok
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xihix> Halo, WoW, Guitar Hero... All casual, stupid games.
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xihix> XBox has the crappiest controller.
2008-01-12 22:17 < kenlyric> Xihix: no, you know what you like and don't.
2008-01-12 22:17 < Luna-San> MessedRocker: I noticed that, too. Maybe they were feeling sensitive, after so many people ragged on the first one.
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xihix> I'd say Sony has the best controller. But the PS3 sucks.
2008-01-12 22:17 < Luigi30> I don't think China likes me. http://img.waffleimages.com/a3516c6369d837859b030e1e257c4599abccf8b3/zergrush.JPG
2008-01-12 22:17 < kenlyric> you don't get some kind of license for objective rating.
2008-01-12 22:17 < gwern> women playing a game is a *good* thing, in case you didn't hear
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xihix> PSX and PS2 were good.
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xihix> Also, no.
2008-01-12 22:17 < porty> holy crap
2008-01-12 22:17 < kenlyric> http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/12/03
2008-01-12 22:17 < porty> i got 50 memoserv messages
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xihix> Woman are also the cancer killing vidya gaems
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xilinx> stop feeding the troll
2008-01-12 22:17 < Xilinx> seriously
2008-01-12 22:17 < gwern> Xihix: original or 360? the slimmed down one for the original was a nice improvement on the dreamcast controller
2008-01-12 22:17 < kenlyric> is a pretty interesting division between different types of gamers.
2008-01-12 22:17 < MessedRocker> buying rated-M games when you're under 17 makes you feel rotten, i tell you
2008-01-12 22:18 < Xihix> Gwern: both suck
2008-01-12 22:18 < porty> they all say that i shouldn't fuck with ED
2008-01-12 22:18 < MessedRocker> i like the xbox 360 controller
2008-01-12 22:18 < porty> what should i do?
2008-01-12 22:18 < Xihix> I am not a troll.
2008-01-12 22:18 < MessedRocker> it's plagiarized from the gamecube controller lololol
2008-01-12 22:18 < Xihix> I know whats right, and those games just suck.
2008-01-12 22:18 < MessedRocker> except xbox 360 controller has neat triggers
2008-01-12 22:18 < kenlyric> Xihix: you don't know what's right.
2008-01-12 22:18 < MessedRocker> and gcn had those huge fucking shoulder buttons
2008-01-12 22:18 < Xihix> The only good controllers I have ever used in my life were the SNES and PSX/PS2
2008-01-12 22:18 < kenlyric> you don't know the meanings of the words "know" or "right" then.
2008-01-12 22:18 < party> Xihix, the best for me is the wiimote
2008-01-12 22:18 < gwern> the gcn controller? man, now there was a bad controller, even worse than the NES
2008-01-12 22:18 < party> that's it
2008-01-12 22:18 < Xihix> Of course I do.
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> i like the GCN controller
2008-01-12 22:19 < party> and its numerous addons
2008-01-12 22:19 < party> i got a classic wii gamepad
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> wii classic controller is ass
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> well
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> for SNES games it's awesome
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> for NES games it has too much baggage
2008-01-12 22:19 < Xihix> The only reason I would ever get a Wii would be for the virtual system
2008-01-12 22:19 < kenlyric> IRC, where all opinions are facts.
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> for anything requiring the use of an analog stick, oh lord no
2008-01-12 22:19 < Xihix> thats it.
2008-01-12 22:19 < party> Xihix, it's also a great workout
2008-01-12 22:19 < party> :)
2008-01-12 22:19 < MessedRocker> Xihix, why not Super Mario Galaxy?
2008-01-12 22:20 < uberpenguin> and where anyone will take videogame-related trollbait
2008-01-12 22:20 < SNORLAX> biking is a great workout
2008-01-12 22:20 < Xihix> That said, they have yet to make Super Mario RPG available, so I probably wouldn't still.
2008-01-12 22:20 < Xihix> Galaxy is ok, but from what I have heard
2008-01-12 22:20 < MessedRocker> they have paper mario available
2008-01-12 22:20 < Luna-San> SNORLAX: Please, we want reasonable options, here.
2008-01-12 22:20 < Xihix> horrible camera, and too much like Sunshine, rather than the supurior Mario 64
2008-01-12 22:20 < Xihix> so, nope.
2008-01-12 22:20 < goshzilla^> guys, style question
2008-01-12 22:20 < Xihix> superior*
2008-01-12 22:20 < Paiev> quit
2008-01-12 22:20 < MessedRocker> how dare you liken it to super mario sunshine
2008-01-12 22:21 < MessedRocker> (actually i liked super mario sunshine, though that game is hard)
2008-01-12 22:21 < MessedRocker> my criticism of super mario galaxy is that it's too easy
2008-01-12 22:21 < gwern> goshzilla^: be stylish. any more questions?
2008-01-12 22:21 < MessedRocker> the camera didn't bother me too much
2008-01-12 22:21 < goshzilla^> when we refer to mohammed
2008-01-12 22:21 < MessedRocker> oh, also, too many damn bunnies to catch
2008-01-12 22:21 < Xihix> What can I say, if it isn't up to 64's standards, it's not getting my time to play it.
2008-01-12 22:21 < Luna-San> goshzilla^: Ask away. Or take to #wikipedia-en if it's too cluttered in here
2008-01-12 22:21 < MessedRocker> in SM64 it was TWO
2008-01-12 22:21 < SNORLAX> do not say pbuh
2008-01-12 22:21 < goshzilla^> the prophet, not the bear
2008-01-12 22:21 < MessedRocker> in SMG it's TEN
2008-01-12 22:21 < goshzilla^> no pbuh?
2008-01-12 22:21 < goshzilla^> ok
2008-01-12 22:21 < SNORLAX> unless something,s changed, no pbuh
2008-01-12 22:21 < goshzilla^> that's what i was asking
2008-01-12 22:21 < gwern> goshzilla^: gosh no
2008-01-12 22:21 < SNORLAX> 's*
2008-01-12 22:21 < goshzilla^> ok
2008-01-12 22:21 < Luna-San> goshzilla^: Correct, no pbuh. Although we might need it for the bear, there's no guideline on that one.
2008-01-12 22:22 < goshzilla^> i've seen that twice recently
2008-01-12 22:22 < party> Xihix, i'm also waiting for Donkey Kong 64
2008-01-12 22:22 < party> wich was extremely epic
2008-01-12 22:22 < gwern> you would no more write 'Mohammed (PBU)' than you would 'Yeshua the Christos'
2008-01-12 22:22 < MessedRocker> yeshua!
2008-01-12 22:22 < gwern> unless you *want* to look like a whacked out muslim
2008-01-12 22:22 < goshzilla^> goodness, i haven't looged in for a while
2008-01-12 22:22 < SNORLAX> specifically your smackdown weapon is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_%28Islam-related_articles%29#Muhammad
2008-01-12 22:22 < kim_bruning> Luna-San, https://gameexperience.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/zarch-a-virus-in-your-mind/
2008-01-12 22:22 < uberpenguin> DK64 was great fun, though some of the collection bits were boring
2008-01-12 22:22 < Xihix> Well, I heard that Square is thinking about re-releasing Super Mario RPG on the DS