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2008-01-10 06:05 * Triona is bored.
2008-01-10 06:05 < FrikkinLazer> sawblade: is this helping?
2008-01-10 06:05 < The359> rape
2008-01-10 06:05 < Triona> The359: never yell rape. yell fire.
2008-01-10 06:05 < The359> people run away when you yell fire
2008-01-10 06:06 < FrikkinLazer> I always yell "burning puppy! burning puppy!" People show up from MILES away.
2008-01-10 06:07 < Triona> The359: not completely true. People are likely to pay attention if someone yells fire.
2008-01-10 06:07 < FrikkinLazer> exactly
2008-01-10 06:07 < The359> They don't when they hear Rape?
2008-01-10 06:07 < Triona> Since, you have to pay attention to know where the fire is :)
2008-01-10 06:07 < Triona> The359: Someone else's problem effect.
2008-01-10 06:07 < FrikkinLazer> Rape does not spread and destroy homes.
2008-01-10 06:07 < Triona> They don't want to get involved.
2008-01-10 06:07 < The359> ....which, again, doesn't happen with fires?
2008-01-10 06:08 < FrikkinLazer> It does happen with fires. Which is kind of the point.
2008-01-10 06:08 < The359> not you
2008-01-10 06:08 < Triona> Fire causes them to have to check the situation for their own safely.
2008-01-10 06:08 < Triona> safety
2008-01-10 06:08 < The359> Depends on the situation
2008-01-10 06:08 < The359> If you're indoors and someone yells fire, you run
2008-01-10 06:08 < The359> If you're outside and someone yells fire, sure some might come over
2008-01-10 06:08 < The359> But some will also not want to get involved
2008-01-10 06:08 < Sawblade5> What do I do about orphan redirects
2008-01-10 06:08 < FrikkinLazer> I think the correct thing to be yellig is "Show sale!"
2008-01-10 06:08 < The359> Speedy delete
2008-01-10 06:09 < FrikkinLazer> "Shoe sale!"
2008-01-10 06:09 < FrikkinLazer> Works every time.
2008-01-10 06:09 < Triona> Thing is, only in crowded indoor places will it be bad to yell fire - and in those places, rape isn't likely.
2008-01-10 06:09 < Mike_H> Kelly: I can't believe that astronaut. 40 years old and she didn't even know who Oprah was.
2008-01-10 06:09 < The359> says who?
2008-01-10 06:09 < Mike_H> Peggy: Spend some time on Earth, lady!
2008-01-10 06:09 < The359> You could be in an apartment building
2008-01-10 06:09 < The359> or at a party
2008-01-10 06:09 < Triona> in an appartment building, someone's first reaction may very well be to pull a fire alarm
2008-01-10 06:10 < FrikkinLazer> At least they fill call the fire dept... because they might not want thier own property to be damaged.
2008-01-10 06:10 < Triona> while that may not save you directly, the attention it draws will make your attacker not want to be there
2008-01-10 06:10 < FrikkinLazer> Rapists don't like firemen.
2008-01-10 06:11 < Mike_H> How did we get on a rapist discussion?
2008-01-10 06:11 * The359 blames Rinn
2008-01-10 06:11 < Rinn> :(
2008-01-10 06:12 * Triona just blames canada instead
2008-01-10 06:12 < FrikkinLazer> Actually... I think it was The359 who started it all.
2008-01-10 06:12 < The359> Lies
2008-01-10 06:12 < Rinn> Nooooooo
2008-01-10 06:12 < Rinn> The seeder went away again. :(
2008-01-10 06:12 < FrikkinLazer> What exactly is this seeder thingy?
2008-01-10 06:12 < Rinn> But they left me two decimals higher than my peers! HAH!
2008-01-10 06:12 * Rinn is superior
2008-01-10 06:13 < Rinn> I'm downloading some orchestral arrangements of Gradius songs.
2008-01-10 06:13 < Rinn> The seeder likes to drop in and out at random intervals and never gives more than 1KB/s.
2008-01-10 06:14 < FrikkinLazer> According to wiki, its a leather working tool.
2008-01-10 06:14 < FrikkinLazer> On what network is this then?
2008-01-10 06:14 < Rinn> Err, Bittorrent lingo.
2008-01-10 06:14 < Rinn> Seeder meaning uploader.
2008-01-10 06:14 < FrikkinLazer> Oh Bitorrent kk
2008-01-10 06:14 < FrikkinLazer> Know what that is... not sure what a seeder was though
2008-01-10 06:14 < Triona> Sounds almost as fun as the bittorrent hack to never give the last piece of a file until the leechers have given pieces to others :P
2008-01-10 06:15 < Rinn> I was on a torrent once where the seeder left at 99.9%.
2008-01-10 06:15 < Suva> Rinn: That's common
2008-01-10 06:15 < Suva> Rinn: Spoofers do that often
2008-01-10 06:15 < Rinn> Everyone stayed, hoping they would come back. Eventually there were around 62 peers all at 99.9%.
2008-01-10 06:15 < FrikkinLazer> Can't the 0.01% be downloaded from someone else though?
2008-01-10 06:15 < Rinn> I couldn't help but laugh.
2008-01-10 06:15 < Suva> Rinn: The file is often hoax aswell
2008-01-10 06:16 < Rinn> They do? I've never gotten a bad file off of Bittorrent before.
2008-01-10 06:16 < Triona> FrikkinLazer: nobody has that part yet
2008-01-10 06:16 < Suva> Rinn: Well idea is, that they seed the file except one chunk
2008-01-10 06:16 < FrikkinLazer> So seeders are the guys who 'pollute' the network with fake crap? Is that right?
2008-01-10 06:16 < Triona> Seeders are the guys that supposedly have the whole file.
2008-01-10 06:17 < Tony_Sidaway> Why should she know who Oprah was?
2008-01-10 06:17 < Suva> Rinn: Many peers get that and start waiting for the seeder to come back
2008-01-10 06:17 < Rinn> The seeders are the uploaders. If you're downloading something from Bittorrent, you're downloading directly from a seeder or a peer.
2008-01-10 06:17 < CableModem> whats up triona
2008-01-10 06:17 < Suva> Rinn: Thus wasting everyones time
2008-01-10 06:17 < Tony_Sidaway> It's hardly a requirement for operating a spacecraft
2008-01-10 06:17 < Triona> CableModem: not much. coming back from wikibreak
2008-01-10 06:17 < CableModem> nice. :)
2008-01-10 06:17 < Suva> Rinn: Seeder is a one that shares the whole file
2008-01-10 06:17 < Rinn> The peers can share between themselves, but only the seeders have the full file.
2008-01-10 06:17 < FrikkinLazer> OH kk
2008-01-10 06:17 < Rinn> Right.
2008-01-10 06:17 < Suva> Peers often don't give you piece unless you give something back
2008-01-10 06:18 < CableModem> well the inital seeder is supposed to have the whole file
2008-01-10 06:18 < Suva> But seeders give as many chunks as they have free slots
2008-01-10 06:18 < FrikkinLazer> I always put my upload speed on 2kb/s... because our bandwith is limited over here.
2008-01-10 06:18 < CableModem> and from there the first downloaders will share once they get some pieces
2008-01-10 06:18 < Triona> Since very few peers stay long enough to become seeders after they have the whole file, seeders are the weak link in a torrent
2008-01-10 06:18 < Suva> FrikkinLazer: You'll get slower download then aswell
2008-01-10 06:18 < FrikkinLazer> That makes sense.
2008-01-10 06:18 < CableModem> but if the inital seeder stops seeding before the full file is propagated, then everyone is screwed.
2008-01-10 06:19 < CableModem> i try always to seed to at least 1.6
2008-01-10 06:19 < Rinn> That's when it gets funny.
2008-01-10 06:19 < CableModem> haha thats sick
2008-01-10 06:19 < CableModem> :P
2008-01-10 06:19 < FrikkinLazer> That may be the case. But I have a 3gb/month cap. And I ALWAYS upload 10 times more than I download... which kind of sucks.
2008-01-10 06:19 < Suva> I have some script that seeds X number of downloads
2008-01-10 06:20 < Suva> If I add another download then one seeding is removed
2008-01-10 06:20 < CableModem> haha my ISP is good to me
2008-01-10 06:20 < CableModem> i uploaded 3GB in half a day :x
2008-01-10 06:20 < Suva> Or actually when the download has finished
2008-01-10 06:20 < FrikkinLazer> Well.. I live in South Africa.. the intarwebs over here are tha crap
2008-01-10 06:20 < Suva> And it starts seeding then the oldest seed is removed
2008-01-10 06:20 < CableModem> aha
2008-01-10 06:20 < Suva> BT is a bw hog
2008-01-10 06:21 < CableModem> for sure
2008-01-10 06:21 < CableModem> :)
2008-01-10 06:21 < Suva> But atleast it works :)
2008-01-10 06:21 < CableModem> if i want to piss people off, i upcap BT and let it rape the network
2008-01-10 06:21 < CableModem> er, uncap
2008-01-10 06:22 < Suva> Yeah, set connection limit to unlimited aswell :)
2008-01-10 06:22 < CableModem> "Hey, whys the internet so slow?"
2008-01-10 06:22 < Suva> Then the internets don't work at all
2008-01-10 06:22 < CableModem> heh
2008-01-10 06:22 < Suva> Cause all router connection handles are full :D
2008-01-10 06:22 < CableModem> :>
2008-01-10 06:22 < Triona> I apply QoS tricks to keep that from happening here...
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> i can set my router to how many connections I want it to handle
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> so I could in theory set that to like. 5.
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> >.>
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> lol QoS
2008-01-10 06:23 < Suva> Nice way to kill network
2008-01-10 06:23 < Suva> Download latest season of some Prison Break or crap
2008-01-10 06:23 < Suva> And remove all limits
2008-01-10 06:23 < Simon-> I have my client set to make up to 32768 connections
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> haha or some other 'videos'
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> o.o;
2008-01-10 06:23 < Triona> I have mine set to limit how many connections one host can make on my network.
2008-01-10 06:23 < CableModem> if I knew how to set QoS up, or had the motivation to figure it out, i would
2008-01-10 06:24 < Simon-> I was running out of connection slots so it was never downloading
2008-01-10 06:24 < Triona> That lets my family members screw themselves out of internet, without messing it up for everyone else.
2008-01-10 06:24 * Pumpmeup vomits all over the ground then douses himself in kerosene proceeding to run in circles on fire killing as many bystanders as possible
2008-01-10 06:24 < CableModem> Triona: :D
2008-01-10 06:24 < CableModem> im the only one who will make use of majority of bandwidth anyway
2008-01-10 06:24 < CableModem> so im the main factor in QoS
2008-01-10 06:25 < CableModem> :D
2008-01-10 06:25 < Triona> *nods*
2008-01-10 06:26 < Triona> I'm not too bad of a bandwidth hog, but I set the router so that everybodsy can still browse if someone gets greedy.
2008-01-10 06:26 < CableModem> or I could always go to the router and... accidentally disconnect some cables.
2008-01-10 06:26 < CableModem> :>
2008-01-10 06:28 * White_Cat resets CableModem
2008-01-10 06:28 * CableModem blinks angrily
2008-01-10 06:29 < Rinn> Now I don't know what to do.
2008-01-10 06:29 * CableModem returns to normal
2008-01-10 06:29 < Rinn> The seeder has left and my little theater has closed as a result. :(
2008-01-10 06:29 < CableModem> lol what little theater
2008-01-10 06:29 < Suva> CableModem gives out new IP 192.168.0.3
2008-01-10 06:29 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:30 < Rinn> I was watching the status of myself and my peers and the very very slow progression.
2008-01-10 06:30 < CableModem> wow.
2008-01-10 06:30 < CableModem> you bored?
2008-01-10 06:30 < CableModem> lol
2008-01-10 06:30 < Rinn> Quite.
2008-01-10 06:31 < Suva> A sign outside movie theater: "Aliens vs Predator II seances cancelled today: Seeder left before propagating the whole movie."
2008-01-10 06:31 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:31 < CableModem> pr0n torrents always have traffic
2008-01-10 06:31 < CableModem> usually.
2008-01-10 06:31 < Suva> Bring your ticket to the cashier for partial refund
2008-01-10 06:31 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:32 < CableModem> 35% of movie availble for viewing
2008-01-10 06:32 < CableModem> :/
2008-01-10 06:32 < Rinn> Maybe I should download some porn so I have some status bars to look at for awhile.
2008-01-10 06:32 < CableModem> do it. but I didnt say that.
2008-01-10 06:32 < CableModem> :x
2008-01-10 06:32 < Suva> Or watch "National Treasure: Book of Secrets - DVDRip-aXXo" instead
2008-01-10 06:33 < Suva> I wouldn't be surprised if these would be actual signs on chinese cinemas
2008-01-10 06:34 < CableModem> haha probably. >.>
2008-01-10 06:34 < Suva> ??? ???? "Aliens vs Predator II" ???? ???? AXXO ???? DVDRip ?????!!!
2008-01-10 06:34 < CableModem> cam rips from china are probably recording ripped screener DVDs
2008-01-10 06:34 < Suva> CableModem: :D
2008-01-10 06:35 < Suva> CableModem: Chinese cinema camrips introduce a paradox
2008-01-10 06:35 < CableModem> hahaha indeed.
2008-01-10 06:35 < The359> Why would anyone watch either of those movies?
2008-01-10 06:35 < CableModem> cause its free :x
2008-01-10 06:36 < CableModem> good way to kill a couple hours
2008-01-10 06:36 < CableModem> well, several if you count watching the status bars
2008-01-10 06:36 < Suva> I wonder what the chinese DVD's and dvdrips are... DVDRip of a DVD of a camrip of a screener
2008-01-10 06:36 < CableModem> lol.
2008-01-10 06:36 < CableModem> :X
2008-01-10 06:36 < CableModem> no wonder the quality is so crappy lol
2008-01-10 06:36 < Suva> Lately they preferred vcd format
2008-01-10 06:37 < Suva> So the quality really didn't matter
2008-01-10 06:37 * Messedrocker rips Suva in half
2008-01-10 06:37 * CableModem throws popcorn at Messedrocker
2008-01-10 06:37 < Messedrocker> CableModem!!!
2008-01-10 06:37 < CableModem> mes!
2008-01-10 06:37 < CableModem> er... Messedrocker !
2008-01-10 06:37 < Messedrocker> lol you fail at tab completion
2008-01-10 06:37 < CableModem> mebbe. >.>
2008-01-10 06:37 < Suva> And CableModem is all at the fault
2008-01-10 06:38 < Suva> Because without him, chinese would have hard time holding cinemas on 56k modem
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> they probably have shoddy DSL
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> its all cencored anyhow
2008-01-10 06:38 < Suva> "Movie cancelled: Someone picked up the parallel phone"
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> er, censored
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> LOL
2008-01-10 06:38 < CableModem> the joy of torrents is that they resume :)
2008-01-10 06:39 < Suva> True
2008-01-10 06:39 < Suva> CableModem: But...
2008-01-10 06:39 < Suva> CableModem: Have you tried using bittorrent on 56k modem? :P
2008-01-10 06:39 < CableModem> id imagine it wouldnt work so well
2008-01-10 06:39 < CableModem> lol
2008-01-10 06:40 < Suva> "Wouldn't work so well" is gross underestimation :P
2008-01-10 06:40 < CableModem> i remember playing counter strike on 56k with intergrated graphics. man, 30FPS used to be huge
2008-01-10 06:40 < CableModem> now im gettig 75 FPS with much more graphically advanced games. >.<
2008-01-10 06:40 < Suva> I remember playing doom with 14k modem :)
2008-01-10 06:41 < CableModem> woahoho
2008-01-10 06:41 < CableModem> lol!
2008-01-10 06:41 < Suva> Direct dialin
2008-01-10 06:41 < Suva> You had to call a friend :)
2008-01-10 06:41 < Suva> On a modem
2008-01-10 06:41 < CableModem> x_X
2008-01-10 06:41 < Suva> Who then "picked the phone up"
2008-01-10 06:41 < Suva> And the connection was made
2008-01-10 06:41 < CableModem> i guess that kinda forced you to play with local friends
2008-01-10 06:41 < Suva> Kinda
2008-01-10 06:41 < CableModem> international gaming might get kinda expensive.
2008-01-10 06:41 < CableModem> :/
2008-01-10 06:41 < Triona> mmm... doom
2008-01-10 06:42 < The359> or hack the gibson
2008-01-10 06:42 < Suva> CableModem: International gaming tends to be bit laggy nowadays
2008-01-10 06:42 < Suva> CableModem: Because all of those chinese cinemas
2008-01-10 06:42 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:42 < Triona> CableModem: realisticly, 30FPS is what you need for playability.
2008-01-10 06:42 < CableModem> they're clogging the tubes
2008-01-10 06:42 < CableModem> yeah
2008-01-10 06:42 < Triona> Any more is just e-penis waving.
2008-01-10 06:42 < CableModem> :P
2008-01-10 06:42 < Triona> That said, you need *consistant* 30FPS for playability.
2008-01-10 06:43 < Suva> I should write something in my blog about the chinese cinemas :D
2008-01-10 06:43 < CableModem> well its good to have 75 FPS so when you start piling on goodies like 8xAA you can keep 30FPS
2008-01-10 06:43 < CableModem> lol i was trying to play live for speed on intergrated.
2008-01-10 06:43 < CableModem> ugh.
2008-01-10 06:43 < CableModem> 7FPS... no.
2008-01-10 06:44 < Suva> I wonder why cats don't like conveior stroking
2008-01-10 06:44 < CableModem> eh!?
2008-01-10 06:45 < Suva> You know what stroking a cat means? :P
2008-01-10 06:45 < CableModem> o_o; uh. i thought I did
2008-01-10 06:45 < CableModem> :/
2008-01-10 06:46 < CableModem> do I want to know? :>
2008-01-10 06:46 < Suva> Well, conveyor stroking is same, but continously, with both hands
2008-01-10 06:46 < CableModem> oh so its like a conveyor belt
2008-01-10 06:46 < The359> you didn't say conveyor
2008-01-10 06:46 < Suva> So if you finish one stroke another is already started
2008-01-10 06:47 < FrikkinLazer> What the hell are you talking about?
2008-01-10 06:47 < Suva> FrikkinLazer: Conveyor stroking cats
2008-01-10 06:47 < CableModem> why not just tie the cat to a rope and drag it around on the carpet?
2008-01-10 06:47 < CableModem> >.>
2008-01-10 06:47 * The359 faints
2008-01-10 06:47 < CableModem> heh
2008-01-10 06:47 < Suva> CableModem: That might actually work
2008-01-10 06:47 * The359 's dreams are coming true
2008-01-10 06:47 < FrikkinLazer> Or... you can tie cats to the wheels ofa bicycle and drive around in the house
2008-01-10 06:47 < CableModem> LOL
2008-01-10 06:48 < Rinn> Ceiling fan!
2008-01-10 06:48 < CableModem> :X
2008-01-10 06:48 < Suva> The359: What dreams? :P
2008-01-10 06:48 < CableModem> or put carpet on a treadmill
2008-01-10 06:48 < CableModem> and make a bar for the cat to hold onto
2008-01-10 06:48 < CableModem> that would be pretty funny imo.
2008-01-10 06:48 < FrikkinLazer> Why would it hold on to the bar though?
2008-01-10 06:49 < CableModem> cause it likes the rubbing motion.
2008-01-10 06:49 < Suva> FrikkinLazer: To get stroked
2008-01-10 06:49 < Rinn> Because it would fall off and end up in the surrounding pool of acid if it let go.
2008-01-10 06:49 < Suva> Actually that would be nice idea
2008-01-10 06:49 < CableModem> x_X
2008-01-10 06:49 < Suva> ACSM
2008-01-10 06:49 < The359> http://www.endurance-info.com/2008_Le_Mans/00_Presentation_AstonMartin_Gulf_bis.jpg oh sweet zombie jesus...
2008-01-10 06:49 < CableModem> if you were real clever, you could devise some sort of simple switch to change speeds and train the cat to use it
2008-01-10 06:49 < Suva> Autonomous Cat Stroking Machine
2008-01-10 06:49 * The359 drools
2008-01-10 06:49 < Suva> Would make your life much easyer
2008-01-10 06:50 < Suva> CableModem: It would be easyer to train the machine than the cat :)
2008-01-10 06:50 < CableModem> or you could get a belt sander and gear it to go slower and change the sandbelt for something softer
2008-01-10 06:50 < Suva> CableModem: So you make a machine that stalks the cat and strokes it every time cat looks like it wants it
2008-01-10 06:50 < CableModem> LOL
2008-01-10 06:51 < Suva> Smells like a business idea
2008-01-10 06:51 < Suva> No, wait, these are my socks.
2008-01-10 06:51 < CableModem> the cat would get scared, run under a table, and the machine would try and follow it and break the table down
2008-01-10 06:51 < Suva> CableModem: Not with the TableSave[TM] extension for only $22 000
2008-01-10 06:51 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 06:52 < CableModem> i like the belt sander idea
2008-01-10 06:52 < CableModem> you could put combs on the belt to comb a cat/dog easily.
2008-01-10 06:52 < CableModem> multi tool!
2008-01-10 06:54 < FrikkinLazer> Is it really that big a problem to just stroke the cat manually?
2008-01-10 06:54 < CableModem> yes.
2008-01-10 06:54 < FrikkinLazer> OH. Oh okay then.
2008-01-10 06:54 < FrikkinLazer> Didn't konw.
2008-01-10 06:54 < FrikkinLazer> *know
2008-01-10 06:55 < Suva> FrikkinLazer: Hey, do you wash you clothes manually?
2008-01-10 06:55 < Suva> FrikkinLazer: Do yu power your car manually?
2008-01-10 06:55 < FrikkinLazer> I manually put it in the machine.
2008-01-10 06:55 < FrikkinLazer> I manually drive my car.
2008-01-10 06:56 < CableModem> well you'll still manually feed the cat and plug in the catstroker2000
2008-01-10 06:56 < CableModem> :)
2008-01-10 06:56 < FrikkinLazer> Never thought about it that way.
2008-01-10 06:56 < CableModem> unless we develop the CatFeeder1500
2008-01-10 06:57 < CableModem> and the CatStroker2000 cordless edition
2008-01-10 06:57 < CableModem> :>
2008-01-10 06:57 < FrikkinLazer> And the CatStroker2000 bunny edition.
2008-01-10 06:57 < CableModem> o_O
2008-01-10 06:57 < CableModem> the what?!
2008-01-10 06:57 < CableModem> wouldnt that be a BunnyStroker2000?
2008-01-10 06:57 < FrikkinLazer> It;s coming out in april. Gonna be awesome.
2008-01-10 06:58 < FrikkinLazer> No foo! CatStroker2000 bunny edition.
2008-01-10 06:58 < CableModem> ok.
2008-01-10 06:58 < CableModem> :D
2008-01-10 06:58 < Suva> CableModem: Trademarks cost money, you know
2008-01-10 06:58 < CableModem> hehe
2008-01-10 06:58 < Suva> And Catstroker2000 is for niche market, so we don't have money
2008-01-10 06:58 < CableModem> CatStroker3500G - Gas powered!
2008-01-10 06:59 < FrikkinLazer> When is the CatStroker2000 FrikkinLazer edition coming out?
2008-01-10 06:59 < CableModem> when you sign the endorsement contract.
2008-01-10 06:59 < Suva> CableModem: 7l turbodiesel
2008-01-10 06:59 < CableModem> thats a lot of power.
2008-01-10 06:59 < CableModem> o_o
2008-01-10 06:59 < CableModem> that would be the 7000D
2008-01-10 06:59 < FrikkinLazer> You can stroke a cat long time.
2008-01-10 06:59 < Suva> Powerful tools for the powerful catowners!
2008-01-10 06:59 < CableModem> i was thinking the 3500G would be a 35cc 2 stroke
2008-01-10 07:00 < CableModem> more gas efficient maybe?
2008-01-10 07:00 < FrikkinLazer> 2 stroke?
2008-01-10 07:00 < CableModem> lol a 7l TD is srs biznss
2008-01-10 07:00 < CableModem> 2 stroke.
2008-01-10 07:00 < FrikkinLazer> 2 cats at once?
2008-01-10 07:00 < CableModem> lol no
2008-01-10 07:00 < Suva> CableModem: Nah, the TurboDiesel variant is for american market
2008-01-10 07:00 < CableModem> aha.
2008-01-10 07:00 < Suva> CableModem: Fuel efficiency is a big turnoff there
2008-01-10 07:00 < FrikkinLazer> Ya thier cats are overweight.
2008-01-10 07:00 < CableModem> wouldnt the american market want a big v8
2008-01-10 07:01 < CableModem> like a 454 cubic inch chevy
2008-01-10 07:01 < CableModem> with a super charger
2008-01-10 07:01 < CableModem> and two 4 bbl carbs?
2008-01-10 07:01 < CableModem> :D
2008-01-10 07:01 < FrikkinLazer> cubic inch? Why would someone use 'cubic inches' ?
2008-01-10 07:01 < Suva> I wonder whether cats would like being stroked by 1600hp v8 :P
2008-01-10 07:01 < CableModem> cause old school american v8s are easier to remember with cu. in.
2008-01-10 07:01 < FrikkinLazer> ah kk
2008-01-10 07:01 < CableModem> 454, 455, 427, 572 etc lol
2008-01-10 07:02 < CableModem> I think a 1600HP v8 will be a bit loud
2008-01-10 07:02 < CableModem> maybe we should go with a I4 import motor
2008-01-10 07:02 < Suva> It's night in america right now, people can speak in metric :)
2008-01-10 07:02 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 07:02 < CableModem> we can still turn 300-400HP
2008-01-10 07:03 < Suva> But not for long, soon the metric is tabu on #wikipedia
2008-01-10 07:03 < CableModem> :o
2008-01-10 07:03 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> It should be noted that not everyone agrees that Wa??sa was a true opposition leader. He has been identified by many as "secret agent" Bolek, who was used as an informant since about 1970. Many people also believe that the Round Table Discussions lead to a change in the facade or form of the system while real power was retained by the old party oligarchy.
2008-01-10 07:03 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> if you have to write "it should be noted"
2008-01-10 07:03 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> more likely than not, it shouldn't
2008-01-10 07:04 < White_Cat> <Mike_H> <Mike_H> if you have to write "it should be noted"
2008-01-10 07:04 < White_Cat> <White_Cat> <Mike_H> <Mike_H> if you have to write "it should be noted"
2008-01-10 07:04 * Suva wonders when the "<EnterRandomNickHere> I am gay!!!" joke comes
2008-01-10 07:05 < White_Cat> <suva> I am gay!!!
2008-01-10 07:05 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 07:05 < Suva> Although, wasn't Mike_H actually gay ... :P
2008-01-10 07:05 < White_Cat> there
2008-01-10 07:05 < White_Cat> happy?
2008-01-10 07:05 < White_Cat> Suva we all are gay
2008-01-10 07:05 < White_Cat> gay = happy
2008-01-10 07:05 < Suva> White_Cat: No, not really, because I am Suva not suva
2008-01-10 07:05 < White_Cat> Suva IRC aint case sensative
2008-01-10 07:05 < Suva> May I write in caps and with spelling errors?
2008-01-10 07:05 < CableModem> suva, is that like suvaru?
2008-01-10 07:06 < Suva> CableModem: You mean like subaru?
2008-01-10 07:06 < Mike_H> No, Suva like the capital of Fiji
2008-01-10 07:06 < CableModem> aha yeah
2008-01-10 07:06 < CableModem> oh lol i didnt know Suva was the capital of Fiji.
2008-01-10 07:07 < Suva> Suva is not capital of Fiji
2008-01-10 07:07 < Mike_H> Suva is the capital city of Fiji. It is located on the southeast coast of the island of Viti Levu, in the Central Division, of which it is the administrative center.
2008-01-10 07:07 < Suva> Suva is a programmer in Estonia :P
2008-01-10 07:07 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 07:07 < Suva> I'll add {{pov}} on [[Suva]]
2008-01-10 07:07 < CableModem> i want a subaru WRX STI :O
2008-01-10 07:08 < Suva> Better still redirect it to [[User:Suva]]
2008-01-10 07:08 < White_Cat> Fiji has a capital?
2008-01-10 07:08 < White_Cat> What for?
2008-01-10 07:08 < CableModem> thats the ultimate in go fast go loud go factory race prepped transportation
2008-01-10 07:08 < White_Cat> thats like vatican having a capital
2008-01-10 07:08 < CableModem> lol i thought fiji only exported water
2008-01-10 07:08 < CableModem> lol
2008-01-10 07:08 < Suva> That's like White_Cat having a White_Hat
2008-01-10 07:08 < White_Cat> exoprt water?
2008-01-10 07:09 < White_Cat> CableModem fiji has no water
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> yeah theres a brand of bottled water called Fiji water
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> mineral water from Fiji it seems
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> bottled at the source.
2008-01-10 07:09 < Suva> CableModem: That's actually not a mineral water...
2008-01-10 07:09 < Mike_H> If Fiji means "a tap in California"
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> comes in the funny square shaped bottle
2008-01-10 07:09 < White_Cat> CableModem we dont get that over here
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> heh
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> wheres here?
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> my here is hawaii lol
2008-01-10 07:09 < White_Cat> non-fiji
2008-01-10 07:09 < Suva> CableModem: I was just testing whether I can connect to my toilet to water factory and make money of it
2008-01-10 07:09 < CableModem> LOL
2008-01-10 07:10 < White_Cat> CableModem I am around alaska
2008-01-10 07:10 < CableModem> wow dang lol
2008-01-10 07:10 < CableModem> i aint drinking Suva Water
2008-01-10 07:10 < CableModem> its gonna come in "lemon flavour" too eh?
2008-01-10 07:10 < GSquared> what forum is the correct one to ask questions about Wikipedia from the developers prospective?
2008-01-10 07:10 < Suva> CableModem: I wouldn't recommend it, yes
2008-01-10 07:11 < Suva> Water export is good thing...
2008-01-10 07:11 < CableModem> in hawaii we bottle deep sea water and sell it to the japanese for rediculous amounts :DD
2008-01-10 07:11 < Suva> Now let's see what we have here: Sand, some sort of tree... Hmm, river. Hey, let's export sand! No wait, hey let's export water!
2008-01-10 07:11 < CableModem> apparently its got healing powers or some crap
2008-01-10 07:12 < CableModem> haha
2008-01-10 07:12 < Suva> CableModem: So does my mom
2008-01-10 07:12 < CableModem> wait what lol
2008-01-10 07:12 < Suva> CableModem: Urmomsaidwhat?
2008-01-10 07:12 < CableModem> o.o;
2008-01-10 07:14 < Suva> I just had to put in a your mom joke, but couldn't find the right place
2008-01-10 07:14 < Suva> Okay, I'll have some more work to do, enough trolling for one day
2008-01-10 07:14 < CableModem> cause yo fat momma was taking all the room!
2008-01-10 07:14 < CableModem> :x
2008-01-10 07:15 < Suva> I'll go smoke some pipe and export some water :P
2008-01-10 07:15 < CableModem> eww.
2008-01-10 07:15 < Suva> "water"
2008-01-10 07:15 < CableModem> have fun :>
2008-01-10 07:15 < Suva> Label on the bottle: Suva's Bottled "Water" (For Export) Has sum sort of healing powers. RLY!
2008-01-10 07:15 < CableModem> -.-
2008-01-10 07:16 < White_Cat> CableModem
2008-01-10 07:16 < White_Cat> We are here to put things right that once went wrong. Right?
2008-01-10 07:16 < CableModem> what went wrong?
2008-01-10 07:16 < White_Cat> well...
2008-01-10 07:16 < CableModem> ceiling cat?
2008-01-10 07:16 < CableModem> o.o;;
2008-01-10 07:16 < White_Cat> Warpath is one
2008-01-10 07:16 < White_Cat> 56ker
2008-01-10 07:16 < CableModem> cometstyle?
2008-01-10 07:16 < CableModem> o.o?!
2008-01-10 07:16 < White_Cat> yup
2008-01-10 07:16 < CableModem> lol i remember you!
2008-01-10 07:17 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat... Well... Thats something that can't be put right!
2008-01-10 07:17 < Warpath> O_O
2008-01-10 07:17 < Warpath> I'am :O ?
2008-01-10 07:17 < CableModem> haha that is true.
2008-01-10 07:17 < NotACow> moo!
2008-01-10 07:17 < CableModem> :O
2008-01-10 07:17 * CableModem pokes the... NotACow
2008-01-10 07:17 < White_Cat> Cow poking is illegal
2008-01-10 07:17 < CableModem> :<
2008-01-10 07:17 < White_Cat> especialy if the cow is in denial
2008-01-10 07:17 * CableModem prods the NotACow
2008-01-10 07:18 < Warpath> Fiji is derived from viti which means water
2008-01-10 07:18 * Formentar resets the CableModem to factory default settings.
2008-01-10 07:18 < CableModem> o.o?!
2008-01-10 07:18 * CableModem blinks furiously
2008-01-10 07:18 * NotACow resets CableModem's DOCSIS parameters
2008-01-10 07:18 < CableModem> Noooo!
2008-01-10 07:18 * CableModem redownloads config file
2008-01-10 07:19 < Triona> Capped!
2008-01-10 07:19 < CableModem> lol funny story about that
2008-01-10 07:19 < Triona> 0.1K up and down.
2008-01-10 07:19 < CableModem> ouch.
2008-01-10 07:19 < CableModem> lol anyway
2008-01-10 07:19 < NotACow> welcome to the internet in 1986
2008-01-10 07:19 < Triona> LOL
2008-01-10 07:19 < CableModem> one day i notice my torrents were download at 900KB down and 100KB up and I was like WOOOHOOOO
2008-01-10 07:19 < CableModem> and i thought something in the modem got f---ed up
2008-01-10 07:20 < CableModem> come to find out, the ISP upgraded all the 'loyal customers'
2008-01-10 07:20 < CableModem> and I thought i was special. -.-
2008-01-10 07:20 < Triona> Hmm.. that could be a good model for customer retention :)
2008-01-10 07:20 < CableModem> heh only thing in hawaii
2008-01-10 07:20 * Formentar misses his 100/100. 4/1 is not at all fun by comparison. :-(
2008-01-10 07:21 < CableModem> theres only two broadband ISPs pretty much
2008-01-10 07:21 < CableModem> 100MB up/down?
2008-01-10 07:21 < CableModem> dang.
2008-01-10 07:21 < Mike_H> NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Katrina's victims have put a price tag on their suffering and it is staggering ? including one plaintiff seeking the unlikely sum of $3 quadrillion.
2008-01-10 07:21 < CableModem> LOL
2008-01-10 07:21 < Mike_H> For the sake of perspective: A mere $1 quadrillion would dwarf the U.S. gross domestic product, which Scott said was $13.2 trillion in 2007.
2008-01-10 07:21 < CableModem> no one has that kinda money.
2008-01-10 07:22 < Mike_H> Little is known about the person who claimed $3 quadrillion. It was filed in Baker, 93 miles northwest of New Orleans. Baker is far from the epicenter of Katrina's destruction, but the city has a trailer park where hundreds of evacuees have lived since the storm.
2008-01-10 07:22 < CableModem> its funny
2008-01-10 07:22 < CableModem> when you are young
2008-01-10 07:22 < CableModem> $100 seems like quite a bit of money
2008-01-10 07:22 < CableModem> but when you grow up... even $10k isnt a whole lot anymore
2008-01-10 07:23 < CableModem> thats my obsevation on life.
2008-01-10 07:23 < Formentar> CableModem: And yet there are those who are always $100 short at the end of the month. Go figure.
2008-01-10 07:23 < Mike_H> I don't know, I'd be pretty happy with just $100, and I'm entering "grownup" stage
2008-01-10 07:23 < CableModem> heh
2008-01-10 07:23 < CableModem> i mean i would be happy with $100
2008-01-10 07:23 < CableModem> but when you look at it
2008-01-10 07:24 < Mike_H> Hell, I don't even like going to the mall anymore, because it's so depressing when you're broke
2008-01-10 07:24 < Mike_H> Now that I'm entering "grownup" stage, I like automatically budget
2008-01-10 07:24 < CableModem> $10k doesnt buy you as much cool stuff as $100 did when you were say, 7
2008-01-10 07:24 < CableModem> i guess expectations grow as you grow?
2008-01-10 07:24 < Mike_H> Two cartons of cigarettes = $50, A week's worth of groceries = $25, misc. expenses = $25
2008-01-10 07:24 < CableModem> we arent as easily entertained
2008-01-10 07:24 < Mike_H> and that doesn't even factor in my rent, oy
2008-01-10 07:24 < CableModem> :[
2008-01-10 07:25 < Mike_H> I think my favorite shopping experiences have been going to the supermarket
2008-01-10 07:25 < Mike_H> with, like, $11
2008-01-10 07:25 < Mike_H> and buying meals for the week
2008-01-10 07:25 < CableModem> the supermarket is fun yes.
2008-01-10 07:25 < CableModem> oh.
2008-01-10 07:25 < CableModem> o_o
2008-01-10 07:25 < CableModem> how do you eat for a week with $11
2008-01-10 07:25 < CableModem> o_O
2008-01-10 07:25 < JohnReaves2> A week's worth for $25?
2008-01-10 07:26 < Mike_H> It's called store-brand pasta and those $1.25 cans of Hunt's tomato sauce
2008-01-10 07:26 < CableModem> costco hot dogs and drinks lol
2008-01-10 07:26 < JohnReaves2> Couscous for the win
2008-01-10 07:26 < Mike_H> JohnReaves2: Is $25 too low or high for you for a week?
2008-01-10 07:26 < JohnReaves2> Generally low
2008-01-10 07:27 < JohnReaves2> Although I found out that my local store is apparently overpriced
2008-01-10 07:27 < CableModem> hell i could eat $25 in a day
2008-01-10 07:27 < JohnReaves2> I've never noticed otherwise though
2008-01-10 07:27 < Mike_H> JohnReaves2: $25 a week is like, ideal for me
2008-01-10 07:27 < Mike_H> It means I can buy, like, a whole gallon of milk
2008-01-10 07:27 < CableModem> on the other hand I could probably stretch it out a lot longer too
2008-01-10 07:27 < CableModem> milk is good
2008-01-10 07:27 < CableModem> unless your lactose intolerant. :/
2008-01-10 07:28 < Mike_H> and not everyone's made of money
2008-01-10 07:28 * JohnReaves2 one $42 in the lottery
2008-01-10 07:28 < CableModem> haha i know im not
2008-01-10 07:28 < CableModem> :[
2008-01-10 07:28 < CableModem> you one or won?
2008-01-10 07:28 * NotACow doesn't really think all that much about spending $100 these days
2008-01-10 07:28 < Mike_H> I get so excited when I have like $20 extra that I didn't plan on
2008-01-10 07:28 < Mike_H> that means I get pizza that night!
2008-01-10 07:28 < CableModem> :D
2008-01-10 07:28 < NotACow> then again, i recently absorbed a $1500 medical bill
2008-01-10 07:28 < CableModem> NotACow: :)
2008-01-10 07:28 < JohnReaves2> err, won even
2008-01-10 07:28 < CableModem> ooh ouch.
2008-01-10 07:29 < Mike_H> NotACow: When you were younger, no doubt you knew what it was like to be on a budget
2008-01-10 07:29 < CableModem> hehe $42
2008-01-10 07:29 < NotACow> Mike_H: i'm still on a budget, it's just a lot larger than it used to be
2008-01-10 07:29 < Triona> I need to win the lottery.
2008-01-10 07:29 < JohnReaves2> indeed
2008-01-10 07:29 < Mike_H> NotACow: And when I'm 15 years older, I hope to be making more than $700 a month too :)
2008-01-10 07:29 < NotACow> Mike_H: i pay more just in taxes now than i made in a year back in those days
2008-01-10 07:29 < CableModem> i need to win the powerball :>
2008-01-10 07:30 < Formentar> The last time I kept track of my food costs I spend around $100 per week (counting 7 SEK to a USD), but that was as a student 10 years ago. Now with a family of 3 it's probably more like $100 per week, but we don't spend a lot on other consumption.
2008-01-10 07:30 < NotACow> we probably spend $1000 a month on food.
2008-01-10 07:30 < Mike_H> $100 a week for a student? Were you eating out all the time?
2008-01-10 07:30 < NotACow> maybe more like $1500
2008-01-10 07:30 < CableModem> m food
2008-01-10 07:30 < Formentar> Mike_H: Wouldn't $700 be below the minimum wage?
2008-01-10 07:30 < CableModem> er, mmm food
2008-01-10 07:30 < Mike_H> NotACow: How many are in your household, though? Four?
2008-01-10 07:30 < NotACow> Mike_H: sx
2008-01-10 07:30 < NotACow> six
2008-01-10 07:31 < Mike_H> Well, that'd explain the price
2008-01-10 07:31 < Triona> Formentar: assuming 40 hour work week, probably.
2008-01-10 07:31 < Formentar> Mike_H: Oops, I meant per month.
2008-01-10 07:31 < NotACow> one of them is only eight months old, though
2008-01-10 07:31 < Triona> Formentar: a lot of people are underemployed.
2008-01-10 07:31 < Mike_H> Formentar: I work part-time. So that would add up to about 35 hours a paycheck, with like, what, $11 an hour, minus tax?
2008-01-10 07:31 < Formentar> Triona: Ah. Didn't think of that. Even though my own wife was only working 75%.
2008-01-10 07:32 * arcimboldo_ may be spending €100 a week here in Japan.
2008-01-10 07:32 < CableModem> thats like
2008-01-10 07:32 < CableModem> 10 dollars
2008-01-10 07:32 < Mike_H> and yes, $700 a month is below the poverty line
2008-01-10 07:32 < CableModem> wait
2008-01-10 07:32 < CableModem> no.
2008-01-10 07:32 < Mike_H> I believe for single dwellers, even like $1200 a month is below the poverty line
2008-01-10 07:32 < CableModem> never mind i didnt say anything
2008-01-10 07:32 < Formentar> Mike_H: Ouch.
2008-01-10 07:33 < NotACow> Mike_H: probably, $1200 a month is only $14.4k a year, which is a piss poor annual wage.
2008-01-10 07:33 < Mike_H> Well, thankfully I've gotten sporadic support from my parents
2008-01-10 07:33 < Mike_H> but rather sporadic
2008-01-10 07:33 < Mike_H> In the last four months or so, I lost 60 pounds
2008-01-10 07:33 < Mike_H> simply because some nights there wasn't food to eat
2008-01-10 07:33 < CableModem> positive thinking, thats good.
2008-01-10 07:33 < arcimboldo_> You might be a millionaire in 70 years if you can save all the money.
2008-01-10 07:34 * NotACow spent over $2000 yesterday
2008-01-10 07:34 < Mike_H> Like when I went home, and they bought groceries for me to send back to Tampa? Yeah, that was seriously the best Christmas present ever.
2008-01-10 07:34 < Triona> I only made something like $4700 last year.
2008-01-10 07:34 < CableModem> :o
2008-01-10 07:34 < Mike_H> I got gift cards to Wal-Mart from my relatives
2008-01-10 07:34 < CableModem> ooh
2008-01-10 07:34 < CableModem> thats a good one
2008-01-10 07:34 < CableModem> walmarts got all kindsa good shit to buy.
2008-01-10 07:34 < Mike_H> ALL of it went to buying more food and essentials like soap and shampoo and shaving razors and cold medicine
2008-01-10 07:34 < Mike_H> I didn't get anything I wanted, I got everything I needed
2008-01-10 07:35 < NotACow> save money, stop shaving :)
2008-01-10 07:35 < CableModem> LOL
2008-01-10 07:35 < Mike_H> NotACow: I bought the cheapest razors ever, they were like $3 for 15
2008-01-10 07:35 < CableModem> :>
2008-01-10 07:35 < Mike_H> they're still a brand name, though
2008-01-10 07:35 < Mike_H> so I hope I won't bleed
2008-01-10 07:35 < CableModem> buy a old school razor and a leather strope
2008-01-10 07:35 < CableModem> and you're set
2008-01-10 07:36 < Mike_H> My mother yelled at me for selling some of my things to pay rent.
2008-01-10 07:36 < CableModem> o.o what did you sell?
2008-01-10 07:36 < Mike_H> I sold an office chair, my portable DVD player, some books I had lying around, a lot of my DVDs
2008-01-10 07:36 < CableModem> oh.
2008-01-10 07:36 < CableModem> thats not so bad
2008-01-10 07:36 < Mike_H> That helped pay for two months extra
2008-01-10 07:36 < CableModem> craigslist?
2008-01-10 07:36 < Mike_H> so at least I'm not homeless, yay
2008-01-10 07:36 < Mike_H> yeah, I used craigslist
2008-01-10 07:37 < NotACow> Mike_H: i had a coworker who sold off virtually all of his DVD collection
2008-01-10 07:37 < NotACow> he's trying to raise money for a down payment on a house
2008-01-10 07:37 < Mike_H> NotACow: I didn't treat my DVD collection very well, and I have to literally locate discs and boxes and stuff
2008-01-10 07:37 < White_Cat> Warpath I cant believe an islands primary export is water
2008-01-10 07:37 < Mike_H> so I only sold off most of the ones that were intact
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