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2008-01-09 20:24 < White_Cat> but it was bordering the west
2008-01-09 20:24 < White_Cat> via waters
2008-01-09 20:24 < TheWeasel> I would say forth of the East Bloc
2008-01-09 20:24 < Mike_H> Arguably, it was all over for Poland after the martial law declaration
2008-01-09 20:24 < Mike_H> of December 1981
2008-01-09 20:24 < TheWeasel> 1. GDR 2. Czechoslovakia 3. Hungary 4. Poland
2008-01-09 20:24 < TheWeasel> by living standards
2008-01-09 20:24 < White_Cat> in reality country by country analysis is poor comparasion
2008-01-09 20:24 < Mike_H> In the 1970s Poland went to #2 in living standards but then the oil crisis happened
2008-01-09 20:24 < White_Cat> I think only the border cities and such had real living standards
2008-01-09 20:24 < Mike_H> and the government went deeply into debt.
2008-01-09 20:24 < White_Cat> everyone else suffered
2008-01-09 20:25 < White_Cat> iron curtain countries werent real countries
2008-01-09 20:25 < TheWeasel> White_Cat: Border cities didn't get shit done
2008-01-09 20:25 < Mike_H> which is what led to the martial law of 1981
2008-01-09 20:25 < TheWeasel> there was no useful transit
2008-01-09 20:25 < White_Cat> TheWeasel at least they got good makeup
2008-01-09 20:25 < TheWeasel> Hm?
2008-01-09 20:25 < White_Cat> for 3 blocks max
2008-01-09 20:25 < TheWeasel> ah no, only targeted tourist sites
2008-01-09 20:25 < White_Cat> I clearly remember how berlin looked
2008-01-09 20:25 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Do you know how people got to use the Intershops?
2008-01-09 20:26 < TheWeasel> Potsdam, central Berlin after 1987, parts of the Harz
2008-01-09 20:26 < White_Cat> 3 blocks after the wall even had bullet holes from ww2
2008-01-09 20:26 < Mike_H> like, could anyone who had foreign money go there?
2008-01-09 20:26 < TheWeasel> If they had West Marks
2008-01-09 20:26 < White_Cat> It is amazing east germany actualy recovered
2008-01-09 20:26 < Mike_H> So if I'm little ol' me
2008-01-09 20:26 < Mike_H> and I have some foreign money
2008-01-09 20:26 < Mike_H> I could just go?
2008-01-09 20:26 < Mike_H> nobody cared?
2008-01-09 20:26 < TheWeasel> White_Cat: It's still struggling.
2008-01-09 20:26 < White_Cat> Mike_H youd be marked as a capitalizt and treated like one :P
2008-01-09 20:26 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: Nobody did, but the Stasi.
2008-01-09 20:26 < White_Cat> TheWeasel with nazism as well as other stuff yes
2008-01-09 20:27 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I read somewhere that the people who were most likely to have foreign money were old people
2008-01-09 20:27 < TheWeasel> Yea.
2008-01-09 20:27 < White_Cat> TheWeasel everyone was the stasi
2008-01-09 20:27 < Mike_H> because people over 65 were allowed to travel to the West
2008-01-09 20:27 < Mike_H> and would have their money.
2008-01-09 20:27 < White_Cat> Mike_H for a reason
2008-01-09 20:27 < White_Cat> people over 65 did not have any credibility left
2008-01-09 20:27 < TheWeasel> Influx of foreign money was very heavily regulated
2008-01-09 20:27 < White_Cat> and average life expectancy wasnt 65
2008-01-09 20:28 < TheWeasel> It was probably around 75
2008-01-09 20:28 < Mike_H> I thought the DDR had the best life expectancy in the Eastern Bloc
2008-01-09 20:28 < White_Cat> TheWeasel you cant regulate black money
2008-01-09 20:28 < TheWeasel> but they weren't needed as workers any more
2008-01-09 20:28 < White_Cat> Mike_H "the best of eastern block" doesnt say much
2008-01-09 20:28 < Mike_H> White_Cat: I find it funny that you're so quick to criticize the DDR when your own country had quite a checkered past until 1983 or so.
2008-01-09 20:29 < TheWeasel> Well, people in other countries always had this image in their head of undernourished people sleeping in the cold
2008-01-09 20:29 < TheWeasel> a) was not the case, anyway
2008-01-09 20:29 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-01-09 20:29 < White_Cat> Mike_H which country would that be?
2008-01-09 20:29 < Mike_H> You're from Turkey. Let's not act dumb.
2008-01-09 20:29 < White_Cat> Mike_H I am not
2008-01-09 20:29 < White_Cat> I am from no country
2008-01-09 20:29 < Mike_H> Oh, whatever.
2008-01-09 20:29 < White_Cat> this is a very bad habit you know
2008-01-09 20:29 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Okay, let's get back to reality
2008-01-09 20:29 < White_Cat> you ought to stop assigning people nationalities
2008-01-09 20:30 < Mike_H> I don't know why this is so fascinating to me
2008-01-09 20:30 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-01-09 20:30 < TheWeasel> it's incredibly alien.
2008-01-09 20:30 < Mike_H> you're like "whatever, I lived there"
2008-01-09 20:30 < Mike_H> there being Berlin
2008-01-09 20:30 < White_Cat> Mike_H you are too easy to fascinate
2008-01-09 20:30 < Mike_H> not East
2008-01-09 20:30 < uberpenguin> geez
2008-01-09 20:30 < TheWeasel> Yesterday I came across a discarded passport
2008-01-09 20:30 < TheWeasel> it smelled of the strange detergent they used to clean their offices
2008-01-09 20:30 < uberpenguin> you know, it took me forever to hunt down a DC power supply that goes over 75 V
2008-01-09 20:30 < White_Cat> TheWeasel you dont just come across a discarded passport
2008-01-09 20:30 < Mike_H> haha
2008-01-09 20:31 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=O2GRQP7K0iY
2008-01-09 20:31 < TheWeasel> Well, someone else showed it to me unexpectedly
2008-01-09 20:31 < Mike_H> I'm watching this five-part series
2008-01-09 20:31 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: The first person to die getting over the Wall does not have an article on en
2008-01-09 20:32 < Mike_H> the last one to die does
2008-01-09 20:32 < Mike_H> but not the first
2008-01-09 20:32 < TheWeasel> Peter Fechter?
2008-01-09 20:32 < Mike_H> no, that was a high-publicity case
2008-01-09 20:32 < Mike_H> but not the first one
2008-01-09 20:32 < TheWeasel> oh, right, that was just impossibly gruesome
2008-01-09 20:32 < Mike_H> let me find the name of the man
2008-01-09 20:32 < TheWeasel> the way they left him to scream for 20 minutes
2008-01-09 20:33 < Mike_H> Gunter Litfin
2008-01-09 20:33 < Mike_H> That's his name
2008-01-09 20:33 < Mike_H> he does not have an article
2008-01-09 20:33 < TheWeasel> ah
2008-01-09 20:33 < Mike_H> the sentence in the article says
2008-01-09 20:33 < Mike_H> Some famous East German victims include Peter Fechter, Chris Gueffroy and Gunter Litfin.
2008-01-09 20:33 < TheWeasel> they named a pub after him, it was in a street where the Wall ran right down the middle
2008-01-09 20:33 < Mike_H> Chris Gueffroy being the last person to die getting over the Wall, in 1989
2008-01-09 20:34 < White_Cat> TheWeasel I think east germany is doing fine
2008-01-09 20:34 < White_Cat> west assimilated them pretty well
2008-01-09 20:34 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Can you translate the article to en?
2008-01-09 20:34 < Mike_H> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Litfin
2008-01-09 20:34 < TheWeasel> it's just empty
2008-01-09 20:34 < TheWeasel> old and hopeless people
2008-01-09 20:34 < White_Cat> most of the problem left is a side effect of democracy
2008-01-09 20:34 < TheWeasel> certainly
2008-01-09 20:35 < TheWeasel> gimme a minute
2008-01-09 20:35 < White_Cat> O_o
2008-01-09 20:35 < Mike_H> k
2008-01-09 20:35 < Mike_H> Gunter Litfin (* 19. Januar 1937 in Berlin; �� 24. August 1961 ebenda) war das erste Opfer an der Berliner Mauer, das durch Schusse ums Leben kam.
2008-01-09 20:35 < Mike_H> "das erste" means "the first," right?
2008-01-09 20:35 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-09 20:36 < TheWeasel> "was the first victim at the Berlin Wall who succumbed to shots."
2008-01-09 20:36 < Mike_H> I notice there's no en article on "Maueropfer"
2008-01-09 20:36 < TheWeasel> maybe people died of other things before
2008-01-09 20:36 < Mike_H> Does that mean "Wall Climber"?
2008-01-09 20:36 < TheWeasel> Wall Victim
2008-01-09 20:36 < Mike_H> okay
2008-01-09 20:36 < TheWeasel> he wasnt the first
2008-01-09 20:36 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: No, the documentary I'm watching seems to say he was the first
2008-01-09 20:37 < Mike_H> The documentary says
2008-01-09 20:37 < TheWeasel> de:Ida Siekmann jumped out of her window to death
2008-01-09 20:37 < TheWeasel> because they were going to put stones in her window
2008-01-09 20:37 < Mike_H> Well, at least he's more publicized, and deserves an article on en at least
2008-01-09 20:37 < Mike_H> she could get one too
2008-01-09 20:37 < TheWeasel> could do both, if you think they're both notable
2008-01-09 20:37 < Mike_H> I'd go for Gunter before Ida
2008-01-09 20:37 < Mike_H> personally
2008-01-09 20:38 < Mike_H> How do Germans pronounce "Ida" anyway? Is the vowel a strong I or is it "ee"?
2008-01-09 20:38 < TheWeasel> I will
2008-01-09 20:38 < TheWeasel> Eedah
2008-01-09 20:38 < Mike_H> okay, we say "Eye-duh"
2008-01-09 20:38 < TheWeasel> there is only one long I in German
2008-01-09 20:38 < TheWeasel> which is Ee
2008-01-09 20:39 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I've also been thinking about a specific article on "Television in East Germany"
2008-01-09 20:39 < Mike_H> right now we just have "Broadcasting in East Germany," which could be split off with more detail, but there are few sources for me to write from in English, they are apparently almost all in German
2008-01-09 20:39 < NedScott> krimpet, what the hell do you think you're doing
2008-01-09 20:39 < TheWeasel> hm, wonder if we can find sources in English
2008-01-09 20:39 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-09 20:39 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I found a few sources, but they're all rather vague and encompassing
2008-01-09 20:39 < Krimpet> NedScott: blocking you? :)
2008-01-09 20:39 < TheWeasel> I'm a-gonna translate this baby first.
2008-01-09 20:39 < Mike_H> nothing in detail
2008-01-09 20:39 < Mike_H> okay
2008-01-09 20:39 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-09 20:39 < TheWeasel> we
2008-01-09 20:39 < TheWeasel> will see bout that
2008-01-09 20:40 < Krimpet> blanking process pages == disruption. no two ways about it.
2008-01-09 20:40 < TheWeasel> Spiegel Online might have some English stuff on it
2008-01-09 20:40 < TheWeasel> or Deutsche Welle
2008-01-09 20:40 < NedScott> that process page is in direct conflict with the community right now
2008-01-09 20:40 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Possibly. From what I saw only private websites had anything in English. Nothing news.
2008-01-09 20:40 < VoxRationis> NedScott: this was an act of the devs. don't bite the devs.
2008-01-09 20:40 < TheWeasel> "Notice: You are re-creating a page that was deleted."
2008-01-09 20:40 < TheWeasel> "03:20, 25 August 2005 Francs2000 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Günter Litfin" ‎ (content was: 'Person killed while escaping the GDR' (and the only contributor was '72.225.6.54'))"
2008-01-09 20:40 < TheWeasel> Notability broadened?
2008-01-09 20:40 < TheWeasel> oh, right
2008-01-09 20:41 < TheWeasel> we'll just blow this up to size and it'll be ok
2008-01-09 20:41 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I notice the German article on DDR Fernsehen has a lot more detail. If you're on en, you would think all DDR Fernsehen broadcast were Aktuelle Kamera, The Black Channel, and a movie or something
2008-01-09 20:41 < Luna-San> NedScott: If unblocked, would you continue reverting, or take it to some discussion?
2008-01-09 20:41 < Mike_H> it's not very detailed and confuses non-German readers
2008-01-09 20:41 < VoxRationis> not as i see it. the community wanted rollback, now minorities are what makes consensus?
2008-01-09 20:41 < NedScott> I would not blank or revert
2008-01-09 20:42 < Luna-San> Krimpet: Would you mind if I unblocked on the condition he quits blanking/tagging/whatever?
2008-01-09 20:44 < Krimpet> Luna-San: *I* would, even, if he promises not to disrupt that page any more.
2008-01-09 20:44 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: yea, there's also wonderful shows like Ein Kessel Buntes (variety which will likely fascinate you) and Außenseiter-Spitzenreiter, a show about random things
2008-01-09 20:44 < Luna-San> As he said a moment ago, "I would not blank or revert."
2008-01-09 20:44 < NedScott> I'll be a good little disgruntled user
2008-01-09 20:44 < kila> hiya Luna-San
2008-01-09 20:45 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: See, yeah, the Broadcasting in East Germany article is more...
2008-01-09 20:45 < Mike_H> ...geared toward actual logistics
2008-01-09 20:45 < Mike_H> and technology, than it is on programming
2008-01-09 20:45 < Mike_H> which it's nice to have technology and logistics, but it's like, I think it's better if there's both
2008-01-09 20:46 < Pedobear> HAY GUISE, WUTS GOIN ON IN DIS CHANNEL?
2008-01-09 20:46 < White_Cat> my god some people get worked out over minor things so easly
2008-01-09 20:46 < Pedobear> where is long cat?
2008-01-09 20:47 < TheWeasel> yup
2008-01-09 20:48 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: jha on #wikipedia-de tells me that the Wall Victim article is not good, and that it's basically just an article about a list, with a bloated intro. When you're done with the Gunter article, read the Wall Victim one and tell me what you think
2008-01-09 20:48 < TheWeasel> yup
2008-01-09 20:48 < TheWeasel> I kind of agree
2008-01-09 20:48 < White_Cat> Krimpet you around?
2008-01-09 20:49 < Pedobear> RAWR
2008-01-09 20:49 * TheWeasel decides to do wikilinking later
2008-01-09 20:49 < Krimpet> White_Cat, yes?
2008-01-09 20:49 < White_Cat> check pm
2008-01-09 20:49 * Pedobear scans the room looking for loli
2008-01-09 20:51 < White_Cat> Krimpet you got the pm?
2008-01-09 20:51 < uberpenguin> hm... anybody here ever used the 12AU7 or 6SN7 tubes?
2008-01-09 20:51 < uberpenguin> http://datasheets.electron-tube.net/sheets/093/1/12AU7A.pdf << 12AU7
2008-01-09 20:52 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: jha says, if anything, integrate "Wall Victim" as a small section at [[Berlin Wall]]
2008-01-09 20:52 < Mike_H> which may or may not already be there
2008-01-09 20:52 < kila> I think i own a bit of the Berlin Wall
2008-01-09 20:52 < Mike_H> I'm asking him for his opinion about what should be brought over from DDR Fernsehen to Broadcasting in East Germany
2008-01-09 20:53 < Mike_H> this may also be of interest, TheWeasel
2008-01-09 20:53 < Mike_H> <jha> about the vicims there has been a very lenthly discussion on the RequestsForDeletions this year: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:L%C3%B6schkandidaten/20._Juli_2007#Liste_der_Maueropfer_.28bleibt.29
2008-01-09 20:54 < Mike_H> He says that the end result was "keep," but if he were to have closed it, he would have deleted (he is a sysop at de)
2008-01-09 20:55 < TheWeasel> Article has inaccuracies, trying to modify it a bit
2008-01-09 20:55 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-09 20:55 < Mike_H> Didn't we delete the list of 9/11 victims?
2008-01-09 20:55 < Mike_H> I wonder why de kept the list of wall victims
2008-01-09 20:57 < White_Cat> Mike_H you are wrong
2008-01-09 20:57 < White_Cat> we didnt delete it
2008-01-09 20:57 < White_Cat> we transwikied it to the 9/11 wiki
2008-01-09 20:58 < White_Cat> Mike_H you will have a very weak delete case when we have an article on a 4 year old girl whoes only contribution to human civilixation is getting kidnapped
2008-01-09 20:58 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Yeah, I went to the Broadcasting in East Germany article, and the programming section is one paragraph, and basically just mentions Current Camera and The Black Channel
2008-01-09 20:58 < Mike_H> which, I know they were communist and all, but surely there were more things on TV
2008-01-09 20:59 < White_Cat> Mike_H yes
2008-01-09 20:59 < TheWeasel> I'll deal with that later
2008-01-09 20:59 < White_Cat> like bert the turtle
2008-01-09 20:59 < TheWeasel> yea, terrible unpolitical entertainment
2008-01-09 20:59 < White_Cat> or was that on the capitalist tv?
2008-01-09 20:59 < White_Cat> TheWeasel entertainment is by nature political
2008-01-09 20:59 < White_Cat> TheWeasel have you seen the daily show?
2008-01-09 21:00 < TheWeasel> Well, thats why dictatorship has so much silent entertainment
2008-01-09 21:01 < TheWeasel> like ballet troupes
2008-01-09 21:01 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: They could have brought over supermodels.
2008-01-09 21:01 < TheWeasel> *a
2008-01-09 21:01 < TheWeasel> Decadent.
2008-01-09 21:01 < Mike_H> THE FIERCE KONSUM FASHION SHOW, WITH CLAUDIA SCHIFFER
2008-01-09 21:01 < White_Cat> TheWeasel east germany was no dictatorship
2008-01-09 21:01 < White_Cat> it was a puppet gov
2008-01-09 21:01 < White_Cat> fully democratical dictatorship
2008-01-09 21:01 < White_Cat> boy this is mind blowing
2008-01-09 21:01 < White_Cat> didnt east germany have elections?
2008-01-09 21:02 < White_Cat> granted there was just one party
2008-01-09 21:02 < Mike_H> She would have turned Karl-Marx-Stadt on with her smile.
2008-01-09 21:02 < TheWeasel> Rousseau
2008-01-09 21:02 < Mike_H> What is Karl-Marx-Stadt now?
2008-01-09 21:03 < Mike_H> It got its old name back
2008-01-09 21:03 < Mike_H> but I can't remember
2008-01-09 21:05 < TheWeasel> Chemnitz
2008-01-09 21:05 < Mike_H> oh, okay
2008-01-09 21:07 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-09 21:07 * Mike_H milks NotACow
2008-01-09 21:08 < Krimpet> not milk?
2008-01-09 21:11 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I'm watching this movie, and apparently the Trabant is perhaps the slowest car in the world
2008-01-09 21:11 < Mike_H> taking 65 seconds (!!!!) to go from 0 to 100 kph
2008-01-09 21:12 < TheWeasel> I've just gotten through
2008-01-09 21:12 < TheWeasel> heh
2008-01-09 21:12 < TheWeasel> old joke "can you go 120 with a Trabant on a GDR road?"
2008-01-09 21:12 < TheWeasel> "Yes, once."
2008-01-09 21:12 < TheWeasel> they had phenomenally bad roads
2008-01-09 21:13 < TheWeasel> my parents had a house out in Brandenburg, and it was something rallye drivers aren't often put through
2008-01-09 21:13 < Krimpet> my HS physics teacher was a car nut, and said he once opened up a Trabant and found what was basically a lawnmower engine driving the wheels directly
2008-01-09 21:13 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: jha told me a DDR queue joke
2008-01-09 21:13 < Mike_H> want to hear it?
2008-01-09 21:13 < Mike_H> you probably already know it though :(
2008-01-09 21:14 < Mike_H> <jha> so often joke passed like "hey, what will be sold here?" "i do not know, but the queue was already enormous when i arrived, so it must be good."
2008-01-09 21:14 < Xihix> When will "Thanks to everyone who donated in the Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser! You can still make a contribution, or buy Wikimedia merchandise." go?
2008-01-09 21:14 < Krimpet> wait, no, a weed-whacker engine
2008-01-09 21:14 < Xihix> away, I mean.
2008-01-09 21:14 < TheWeasel> heh, yea
2008-01-09 21:14 < kibble> Xihix: whenever they feel like it?
2008-01-09 21:14 < Xihix> They're annoying... :(
2008-01-09 21:15 < Lubaf> Warhammer 40K: When you want to be darker and edgier, without any mitigating factors like "mercy", or for that matter, "sanity".
2008-01-09 21:15 < TheWeasel> my grandma who is a wellspring of knowledge about the GDR told me she once was on a beach on [[Usedom]]
2008-01-09 21:15 < TheWeasel> and someone put up a stall
2008-01-09 21:15 < TheWeasel> and people started queuing 100 yards.
2008-01-09 21:15 < TheWeasel> and her host said, come on, we need to get to the end of the queue!
2008-01-09 21:16 < TheWeasel> and she asked "well and good but what are they even selling here?
2008-01-09 21:16 < TheWeasel> "I don't know, it's *something* !"
2008-01-09 21:16 < TheWeasel> Turned out to be grapes.
2008-01-09 21:16 < TheWeasel> bit of a rarity there, especially red ones
2008-01-09 21:17 < Mike_H> wow.
2008-01-09 21:17 < NotACow> MOO
2008-01-09 21:18 < TheWeasel> if there's anything the Easterners do with passion it is
2008-01-09 21:18 < TheWeasel> a) rise early
2008-01-09 21:19 < TheWeasel> b) be patient in queues
2008-01-09 21:19 < TheWeasel> oh and c) be McGyver
2008-01-09 21:19 < Mike_H> explain C.
2008-01-09 21:19 < TheWeasel> Well, there were few specialized... shall we call them gadgets
2008-01-09 21:19 < TheWeasel> or tools
2008-01-09 21:19 < TheWeasel> or some materials were hard to find
2008-01-09 21:20 < TheWeasel> they're great at making something out of nothing
2008-01-09 21:22 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Litfin
2008-01-09 21:22 < Aranda56> bleh this channel is safer than the bloodbath in the admins channel that's going on right now
2008-01-09 21:23 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: needs categories
2008-01-09 21:23 < TheWeasel> true
2008-01-09 21:23 < Mike_H> and a de interwiki
2008-01-09 21:23 < uberpenguin> hey Mike_H
2008-01-09 21:23 < TheWeasel> Category:Deaths_by_firearm_in_Germany
2008-01-09 21:23 < TheWeasel> Awkward
2008-01-09 21:24 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: haha
2008-01-09 21:24 < Mike_H> the gravesite picture on de
2008-01-09 21:24 < Mike_H> is that on commons and can it be brought over?
2008-01-09 21:24 < TheWeasel> not a gravestone
2008-01-09 21:25 < TheWeasel> the white cross anyway
2008-01-09 21:25 < Mike_H> whatever it is, is it on commons?
2008-01-09 21:25 < TheWeasel> it's part of a larger memorial
2008-01-09 21:25 < TheWeasel> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Chris_Gueffroy.jpg
2008-01-09 21:25 < TheWeasel> wait
2008-01-09 21:26 < TheWeasel> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Chris_Gueffroy.jpg
2008-01-09 21:26 < Mike_H> That's not the one I was talking about
2008-01-09 21:26 < Mike_H> let me find it
2008-01-09 21:26 * FaceHuggerCat facehugs Mike2
2008-01-09 21:26 < FaceHuggerCat> erm
2008-01-09 21:26 < FaceHuggerCat> Mike_H*
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> heh
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Gedenkstein_Guenter_Litfin.jpg
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> good
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> it is on commons
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> I'll put it there
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> on en
2008-01-09 21:27 < TheWeasel> great
2008-01-09 21:27 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> go to the de article
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> and tell me what the caption says
2008-01-09 21:27 < Mike_H> and I'll put it on
2008-01-09 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> hello White_Cat
2008-01-09 21:28 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat you particularly busy?
2008-01-09 21:28 < White_Cat> I'd like you to run a check to see if Fadix is editing with sockpuppets
2008-01-09 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - as long as it's quiet
2008-01-09 21:28 < Ceiling_Cat> quick*
2008-01-09 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> PM me the details
2008-01-09 21:29 < White_Cat> its quiet and quick
2008-01-09 21:29 < White_Cat> sure
2008-01-09 21:29 < NotACow> snort
2008-01-09 21:29 < TheWeasel> eh Fair
2008-01-09 21:29 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: What does it say? I'm editing en now
2008-01-09 21:30 < NotACow> yes, we should do random suspicionless checkusers for the hell of it
2008-01-09 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - obviously there's a suspicion or he wouldn't be asking
2008-01-09 21:30 < TheWeasel> "Here died, as first victim of the Wall G.L. (dates) - For his memory and all other victims'
2008-01-09 21:31 < Mike_H> I thought the caption had the word "Berlin" in it
2008-01-09 21:31 < TheWeasel> oh, the caption
2008-01-09 21:31 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: uh, right, sure. cool cat sees stalkers and sockpuppets under every bush, and is a known POVpusher.
2008-01-09 21:31 < TheWeasel> "Memorial stone at Sandkrug Bridge/Invaliden Road in Berlin
2008-01-09 21:31 < White_Cat> NotACow and you are a troll
2008-01-09 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - nonetheless, I'm going to investigate his suspicion to see if it pans out
2008-01-09 21:32 < NotACow> White_Cat: that's under bridges, not bushes
2008-01-09 21:32 < Bra_Wearer_Samue> Victoria's Secret employees help fit me for the right bra every time i shop there even though I am a male
2008-01-09 21:32 < Bra_Wearer_Samue> Any other guys here wear bras?
2008-01-09 21:32 < NotACow> Bra_Wearer_Samue: get a life.
2008-01-09 21:32 < Bra_Wearer_Samue> Just wondering
2008-01-09 21:32 < Bra_Wearer_Samue> i am wearing one right now
2008-01-09 21:33 < Mike_H> I'm a 46A
2008-01-09 21:33 < Mike_H> and btw
2008-01-09 21:33 < Mike_H> bye
2008-01-09 21:33 < Not_the_NSA> zomg Ceiling_Cat is opped
2008-01-09 21:33 * Not_the_NSA waits for Ceiling_Cat to kick him for being the NSA
2008-01-09 21:33 < Not_the_NSA> even thuogh I'm Not_the_NSA
2008-01-09 21:33 < TheWeasel> Not_the_NSA: That name provides perfect cover, I must say
2008-01-09 21:33 < Not_the_NSA> TheWeasel: ja
2008-01-09 21:36 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: pm
2008-01-09 21:37 < LuciferTiger> Mike_H: am
2008-01-09 21:39 < Ionas_Freeman> I finally realised that Brandt was more of an asshole than anything else, outing people as reporters and using the law to intimidate
2008-01-09 21:41 < Xihix> Why is the main page request so slow?
2008-01-09 21:43 < Ceiling_Cat> because we blew us up the main page
2008-01-09 21:45 < Xihix> Hey Ceiling Cat.
2008-01-09 21:45 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Is Haribo a "Western" brand?
2008-01-09 21:54 < NotACow> my fireplace just hissed
2008-01-09 21:54 < Mike_H> it hates you.
2008-01-09 21:55 < st47|lap> :(
2008-01-09 21:56 < st47|lap> Is there an animal in your fireplace
2008-01-09 21:56 < st47|lap> Perhaps a small kitten?
2008-01-09 21:56 < NotACow> unlikely
2008-01-09 21:56 < NotACow> there's two oak splits and a big-ass hunk of elm in there, though
2008-01-09 21:57 < fennec> yo yo
2008-01-09 22:03 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> Does #wikipedia offer medical advice?
2008-01-09 22:06 < NotACow> Xihix: yes
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> ok, I screamed non-stop for about an hour last night
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> and I can't really hit high notes anymore
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> Not that I want to, but I liked my falsetto
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> anyway
2008-01-09 22:06 < LuciferTiger> y skreem'd?
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> will it come back?
2008-01-09 22:06 < Xihix> Bored
2008-01-09 22:07 < Xihix> I was in a soundproof room and I got carried away
2008-01-09 22:07 < Xihix> played a game the whole time I was screaming. and wikipedia-ing
2008-01-09 22:07 < LuciferTiger> fool.
2008-01-09 22:07 < Xihix> Well, I went to sleep afterwards
2008-01-09 22:07 < LuciferTiger> Mr T thinks you donot deserve your voice back.
2008-01-09 22:07 < Xihix> my throat hurt in the morning and I initially couldnt speak
2008-01-09 22:07 < Xihix> But it got better throughout the day
2008-01-09 22:07 * fennec eyes the channel suspiciously
2008-01-09 22:08 < fennec> no one I know seems to be around
2008-01-09 22:08 < Xihix> So, anyway
2008-01-09 22:08 * NotACow stares at fennec
2008-01-09 22:08 < fennec> aha
2008-01-09 22:08 < Xihix> Will I get it back?
2008-01-09 22:08 < fennec> hi.
2008-01-09 22:08 < Xihix> hi
2008-01-09 22:08 < fennec> NotACow: guess what?
2008-01-09 22:08 < NotACow> fennec: six plus six does not make nine?
2008-01-09 22:08 < fennec> my company is getting bought out
2008-01-09 22:09 < NotACow> fennec: is that good?
2008-01-09 22:09 < fennec> this means good things for me like retention bonuses
2008-01-09 22:09 < fennec> and other shiny-looking things worth several thousands of dollars
2008-01-09 22:09 < fennec> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/09/aruba_buys_airwave/
2008-01-09 22:16 < Xihix> so uhh
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> anyone wanna help with my voice problem?
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> :(
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> nobody wants to.
2008-01-09 22:17 < FastLizard4> Xihix: What is said problem?
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> oh, uhh
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> Last night I screamed for about an hour
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> the next morning, I couldn't talk much at all and my throat hurt
2008-01-09 22:17 < Xihix> but it got better through out the day
2008-01-09 22:18 < Xihix> now I can't really talk in a high voice anymore
2008-01-09 22:18 < kmccoy> It'll come back. Just practice good vocal care and don't do stupid stuff like that.
2008-01-09 22:18 < Xihix> hmm. Ok.
2008-01-09 22:18 < Xihix> One time stuff doesn't do perm. damage, does it?
2008-01-09 22:19 < Krimpet> Xihix: oh, it causes cancer. and hemorrhoids.
2008-01-09 22:19 < kmccoy> Not likely. But if you still have problems in a few days, you can get it checked out.
2008-01-09 22:19 < Xihix> hemorrhoids? what does my anus have to do with this <_< >_>
2008-01-09 22:19 < Xihix> alright.
2008-01-09 22:19 < kmccoy> What *doesn't* your anus have to do with it?
2008-01-09 22:19 < Xihix> It improved a lot in a few hours. I don't think it's that bad.
2008-01-09 22:19 < Xihix> I dunno. it's an exit only, thats all I know.
2008-01-09 22:19 < Krimpet> it forces you to talk out of your ass :o
2008-01-09 22:20 < Xihix> ah, you're a sneaky one, Krimpet.
2008-01-09 22:20 < Xihix> So, my request for rollback got accepted
2008-01-09 22:20 < Xihix> boo-ya!
2008-01-09 22:22 < Xihix> Question
2008-01-09 22:22 < Xihix> Ultimately, will my blocklog effect me?
2008-01-09 22:22 < Xihix> if I want to be an admin one day.
2008-01-09 22:22 < kmccoy> Sorry, we're not accepting applications for any further admins. We don't have the budget for any more salaries.
2008-01-09 22:22 < Xihix> ehh
2008-01-09 22:23 < Xihix> Kmccoy, you're trying too hard :P
2008-01-09 22:25 < Xihix> Firefox decided to crash
2008-01-09 22:25 < Xihix> did anyone answer me though?
2008-01-09 22:26 < kmccoy> Nope.
2008-01-09 22:27 < Xihix> penis.
2008-01-09 22:27 < Xihix> just throwing that out there.
2008-01-09 22:29 < OverlordQ> and balls
2008-01-09 22:29 < Cowman109> Please keep it PG here people..
2008-01-09 22:30 < fennec> Cowman109: go easy on those two; they're only in fourth grade
2008-01-09 22:30 < Cowman109> Then keep it rated G.
2008-01-09 22:30 < Cowman109> :P
2008-01-09 22:32 < Xihix> I'm in 8th grade! =/
2008-01-09 22:35 < Lubaf> I still want to see a speed-assisted toolrun.
2008-01-09 22:36 < NotACow> Xihix: i recommend against autopenectomy. the risk of bleeding out is too great.
2008-01-09 22:38 < Dtobias> Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
2008-01-09 22:38 < NotACow> Dtobias: depends on the fifth grader.
2008-01-09 22:39 < Dtobias> Kellie Pickler wasn't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lmgNqFuXwc
2008-01-09 22:39 < NotACow> FOAM FOO POO TOO
2008-01-09 22:40 < Dtobias> [[Fin Fang Foom]]
2008-01-09 22:40 < Mike_H> Kellie Pickler is stupid.
2008-01-09 22:41 < Mike_H> And that's saying something for a reality show contestant.
2008-01-09 22:41 < NotACow> kelly the pickler?
2008-01-09 22:41 < Mike_H> Apparently she didn't get the "shut up and sing" memo
2008-01-09 22:41 < NotACow> maybe she doesnt know how
2008-01-09 22:41 < LuciferTiger> is there going to be a 'A Daily Show' or 'ColberT ReporT' room today?
2008-01-09 22:43 < Dtobias> [[Eat Poop You Cat]]
2008-01-09 22:43 < Mike_H> Dtobias: ew.
2008-01-09 22:44 < Dtobias> It's doodylicious.
2008-01-09 22:45 < Mike_H> I don't think you're ready for this doody.
2008-01-09 22:45 < Dtobias> Do your duty.
2008-01-09 22:45 < Mike_H> Howdy Doody.
2008-01-09 22:55 < uberpenguin> haha, this is awesome
2008-01-09 22:55 < uberpenguin> http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mleach/myturn/physicsquiz.pdf
2008-01-09 23:00 < LuciferTiger> wooooo A daily show is on!!
2008-01-09 23:00 < Ceiling_Cat> sweet
2008-01-09 23:00 < Ceiling_Cat> the photosubmission queue just got its third successful submission
2008-01-09 23:00 < The359> I wonder how long they'll go without scripts before they just can't handle ad libbing it anymore
2008-01-09 23:01 < Ceiling_Cat> SWEET!
2008-01-09 23:01 < LuciferTiger> they dont adlib
2008-01-09 23:01 < Ceiling_Cat> I saw that poster!
2008-01-09 23:01 * Ceiling_Cat walked on it
2008-01-09 23:01 < LuciferTiger> they just write it themselves
2008-01-09 23:01 < The359> no, they don't
2008-01-09 23:01 < LuciferTiger> lol
2008-01-09 23:01 < Ceiling_Cat> AWESOME
2008-01-09 23:01 < The359> Jon Stewart is in the Writers Guild
2008-01-09 23:01 < Ceiling_Cat> it was in trabant
2008-01-09 23:01 < LuciferTiger> they do
2008-01-09 23:01 < The359> he can't write a script
2008-01-09 23:01 < Ceiling_Cat> that's so great
2008-01-09 23:02 < LuciferTiger> nooo not change again
2008-01-09 23:04 < LuciferTiger> "lol who makes a floor poster for somebody"
2008-01-09 23:04 < Ceiling_Cat> LuciferTiger - I walked on that poster
2008-01-09 23:04 < Ceiling_Cat> it was in the middle of the trabant food court :)
2008-01-09 23:04 < LuciferTiger> niiiice
2008-01-09 23:06 < Lubaf> The internet is for porn!
2008-01-09 23:06 < Lubaf> Everybody, sing along!
2008-01-09 23:06 < LuciferTiger> yeah we know that.
2008-01-09 23:06 < The359> it's a series of tubes!
2008-01-09 23:06 < LuciferTiger> ssshhhh! A Daily Show is on.
2008-01-09 23:07 < placebo_effect> is it new?
2008-01-09 23:07 < LuciferTiger> brand
2008-01-09 23:07 < The359> yes
2008-01-09 23:07 < The359> they've been new since Monday
2008-01-09 23:07 * Ceiling_Cat watches lubaf watch porn
2008-01-09 23:08 < LuciferTiger> Ceiling_Cat is weird.
2008-01-09 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> LuciferTiger - you should see what lubaf is watching
2008-01-09 23:08 < LuciferTiger> goatse?
2008-01-09 23:08 < LuciferTiger> 2 girls?
2008-01-09 23:08 < The359> tubgirl
2008-01-09 23:08 < LuciferTiger> eww
2008-01-09 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> granny porn
2008-01-09 23:11 < Ceiling_Cat> BRB
2008-01-09 23:14 < LuciferTiger> lol at the CNN technology
2008-01-09 23:19 < LuciferTiger> stop meatspinning Lubaf .
2008-01-09 23:26 < fennec> oh good lord.
2008-01-09 23:26 < fennec> this place is a wasteland.
2008-01-09 23:26 < LuciferTiger> why
2008-01-09 23:26 < kmccoy> Dude, this guy on A Daily Show is funny.
2008-01-09 23:26 < Ceiling_Cat> John Zogby
2008-01-09 23:26 < kmccoy> Yeah. He's funny.
2008-01-09 23:26 < LuciferTiger> other than for ppl discussing Lubaf's porn life
2008-01-09 23:26 < LuciferTiger> yeah "I dont know"
2008-01-09 23:27 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-01-09 23:27 < kmccoy> He banters well with Jon Stewart.
2008-01-09 23:27 < Ceiling_Cat> oh noes! Now Lubaf is watching more furry porn
2008-01-09 23:27 < Lubaf> How's murder?
2008-01-09 23:27 < Ceiling_Cat> (yiff yiff)
2008-01-09 23:27 < Ceiling_Cat> [we only kid the ones we love, Lubaf]
2008-01-09 23:28 < Lubaf> Ceiling_Cat: And I only stab the ones who insult me.
2008-01-09 23:28 * Lubaf gets out his dull machete.
2008-01-09 23:28 * Ceiling_Cat huggles lubaf incessantly
2008-01-09 23:28 * Lubaf stabs Ceiling_Cat repeatedly in the face with a dull machete.
2008-01-09 23:28 * FastLizard4|busy stabs Lubaf with a blunt object
2008-01-09 23:29 < Ceiling_Cat> Lubaf - love, don't hate
2008-01-09 23:29 * Ceiling_Cat extends the olive branch to lubaf by making him his very own user page on wikifur
2008-01-09 23:30 * Lubaf burns the olive branch with his flamethrower, along with a large chunk of Ceiling_Cat's arm.
2008-01-09 23:33 < Ceiling_Cat> oh snap
2008-01-09 23:33 < Ceiling_Cat> the scientologists got Will Smith
2008-01-09 23:34 < LuciferTiger> yeah :/
2008-01-09 23:35 < Ceiling_Cat> On December 22, 2007 Smith said in part of an interview for a Scottish newspaper, the Daily Record: "Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today'... I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'. Stuff like that just needs reprogramming."[20]
2008-01-09 23:35 < Ceiling_Cat> He got criticized for that
2008-01-09 23:35 < Ceiling_Cat> I don't understand why
2008-01-09 23:36 < FastLizard4|busy> Ceiling_Cat: Who wouldn't get criticized for portraying the worlds "most evil man" in a somewhat good light?
2008-01-09 23:37 < Ceiling_Cat> FastLizard4|busy - he wasn't portraying him a good light, per se. He was making the point that people who do bad things often don't consider themselves to be doing such
2008-01-09 23:37 < Ceiling_Cat> which is a totally different concept
2008-01-09 23:37 < FastLizard4|busy> Ceiling_Cat: Exactly, to be inline with common thought, you must portray Hitler as wanting to do bad things, that sort of thing
2008-01-09 23:38 < LuciferTiger> lol at guiliani
2008-01-09 23:39 < Krimpet> ...he even clearly was saying Hitler was bad.
2008-01-09 23:40 < Krimpet> but all I can say is, now, this is a story all about how / My life got flipped-turned upside down / And I liked to take a minute / Just sit right there / I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.
2008-01-09 23:40 < Ceiling_Cat> I guess a nuanced comment like that gets lost in the hysteria of dealing with someone as infamous as hitler
2008-01-09 23:42 < Dtobias> It's a story of a lovely lady / who was bringing up three very lovely girls / All of them had hair of gold like their mother / The youngest one in curls
2008-01-09 23:45 < Mike_H> I miss that Lucy Show
2008-01-09 23:46 < Mike_H> She got that smoker's voice later on, though
2008-01-09 23:46 < Mike_H> it was so odd to listen to
2008-01-09 23:46 * White_Cat flies a helicopter into Ceiling_Cat's ceiling
2008-01-09 23:46 * Krimpet chugs some vegameatavitamin
2008-01-09 23:47 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-09 23:47 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat is now known as the heli_litty?
2008-01-09 23:47 < White_Cat> *kitty
2008-01-09 23:47 < Dtobias> Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip / That started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny Ship.
2008-01-09 23:48 < Dtobias> goo
2008-01-09 23:48 < NotACow> ARE YOU A WARRIOR-POET?
2008-01-09 23:48 < White_Cat> Dtobias 3 girls?
2008-01-09 23:48 < White_Cat> seems like a cat house to me
2008-01-09 23:48 < White_Cat> :P
2008-01-09 23:48 < TheWeasel> "There are various opinions and definitions for Spiritual Warfare, however it can be summed up in the following quote:" (no sir, they *have* been summed up in the following quote)
2008-01-09 23:49 < TheWeasel> People are clearly not obsessive-compulsive enough about their semantics
2008-01-09 23:49 < TheWeasel> "The sign of the cross developed as a demon-repelling device"
2008-01-09 23:49 < White_Cat> TheWeasel
2008-01-09 23:49 * TheWeasel applies Satan repellent on his arms
2008-01-09 23:50 < White_Cat> demon repelling cannot be achieved with a cross
2008-01-09 23:50 < White_Cat> you need a hello kitty symbol for that'
2008-01-09 23:50 < Dtobias> Have you ever seen a demon at a church?
2008-01-09 23:50 < TheWeasel> no?
2008-01-09 23:50 < White_Cat> Dtobias well yes
2008-01-09 23:50 < TheWeasel> My mother-in-law
2008-01-09 23:50 < White_Cat> especialy in diablo
2008-01-09 23:50 < TheWeasel> of which I have none.
2008-01-09 23:50 < White_Cat> TheWeasel I'll buy you one on ebay
2008-01-09 23:50 < Dtobias> http://www.goodbyekitty.net/
2008-01-09 23:51 < Mike_H> Krimpet: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgVvAy-6ms
2008-01-09 23:51 < TheWeasel> thats very touching
2008-01-10 00:06 < Paine> what the hell is swap.avi?
2008-01-10 00:06 < NotACow> probably porn
2008-01-10 00:07 < Paine> ...what would they swap? o.O
2008-01-10 00:07 < NedScott> what wouldn't they
2008-01-10 00:07 < Paine> erm, organs I hope
2008-01-10 00:08 < Krimpet> it's... of the "2 girls 1 cup" genre.
2008-01-10 00:08 < TheWeasel> If I ever catch anyone calling Reliant K a punk band again, I'm gonna sock them in the face.
2008-01-10 00:08 < TheWeasel> *in reference to the article on Christian punk
2008-01-10 00:09 < Rinn> Christian punk?
2008-01-10 00:09 < TheWeasel> specifically something I read there
2008-01-10 00:09 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-10 00:09 < Rinn> This confuses me.
2008-01-10 00:09 < TheWeasel> it's possible
2008-01-10 00:09 < Paine> Rinn: It's not nearly as cool as christian metal
2008-01-10 00:10 < TheWeasel> Relient K on the other hand are not worthy of licking a punk band's boots.
2008-01-10 00:10 < TheWeasel> It
2008-01-10 00:10 < TheWeasel> is like when Avril Lavigne came out
2008-01-10 00:10 < TheWeasel> the newspapers said things like "finally, you can send your children to punk concerts in good faith"
2008-01-10 00:11 < Krimpet> good faith, and bad taste
2008-01-10 00:11 < TheWeasel> Trust me, if you do it in good faith as a parent, it isn't punk.
2008-01-10 00:11 < NedScott> wait, what?
2008-01-10 00:11 < Paine> avril lavigne, punk?
2008-01-10 00:11 < Paine> Does not compute
2008-01-10 00:11 < NedScott> came out?
2008-01-10 00:11 < TheWeasel> So I saw it written.
2008-01-10 00:11 < Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:Assume Bad Faith]].
2008-01-10 00:11 < TheWeasel> Well, when she came on the scene
2008-01-10 00:11 < NedScott> oh
2008-01-10 00:11 < NedScott> I thought she came out as a lesbian
2008-01-10 00:12 < NedScott> ha
2008-01-10 00:12 < Lubaf> Who's gay?
2008-01-10 00:12 < Paine> TheWeasel: I always laugh like a mad man when I hear about someone "coming on the scene"...
2008-01-10 00:12 < TheWeasel> no really, if you know what a punk concert is and don't do everything to not let your kids go, it's not punk
2008-01-10 00:12 < Lubaf> Sulu's gay.
2008-01-10 00:12 < Paine> Mostly because a) I have a dirty mind, and b) I hate "The Scene"
2008-01-10 00:12 < Lubaf> Get up!
2008-01-10 00:12 < Lubaf> Get on up!
2008-01-10 00:12 < TheWeasel> Scenes are silly
2008-01-10 00:12 < Lubaf> Get up!
2008-01-10 00:12 * Rinn rushes onto the scene!
2008-01-10 00:12 < Lubaf> Get on up!
2008-01-10 00:13 < Lubaf> Get on the scene!
2008-01-10 00:13 < JohnReaves> Anyone know how to access Firefox's dictionary?
2008-01-10 00:13 < TheWeasel> I heard American punk concerts don't even allow dogs.