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2008-01-08 23:59 < Random832> when did it become illegal
2008-01-08 23:59 < Leslie_S> Random832, and isnt my car essentially the same as the european version, other than the lights, the transmission, and the speedometer, and license plate mounts?
2008-01-08 23:59 < Luna-San> I remember shopping for cars, and when I'd ask "How long will it last?" only Honda and Toyota dealers gave straight answers -- everybody else would hem and haw about it depending on how I drive it, maintain it, whatever.
2008-01-09 00:00 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, what did toyota and honda say?
2008-01-09 00:00 < Random832> Leslie_S: no idea. lots of manufacturers do have substantial differences
2008-01-09 00:00 < Luna-San> I remember the guy at Honda just flat out said "200,000 miles."
2008-01-09 00:00 < Mike_H> Random832: I believe all of those drugs became illegal in 1965 or 1966.
2008-01-09 00:00 < Leslie_S> Random832, this is an 86 volvo 245DL for the record
2008-01-09 00:00 < Random832> I know a ford focus is a completely different platform in europe
2008-01-09 00:00 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, thats odd.
2008-01-09 00:01 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, most american cars last longer than that, and honda engines are known for reliability
2008-01-09 00:01 < Random832> the US focus even has its own article
2008-01-09 00:01 < Luna-San> Hm, interesting.
2008-01-09 00:02 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, my moms 95 mercury sable has 260,000 miles on it, original v6 and automatic transmission, and it just recently hit the point where its a piece of shit
2008-01-09 00:02 < LuciferTiger> brb
2008-01-09 00:02 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, and it is an absolute piece of shit.
2008-01-09 00:03 < Luna-San> That's a lot of driving! :) Parents have a 90 minivan that's just flirting around 200k
2008-01-09 00:03 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, it got hit by a uhaul, it got hit by an f150, it got a hit and run in a parking lot, it doesnt start with a key, but a switch under the dash, it has a loud exhaust leak (that can probably be fixed for cheap), and the transmission slips sometimes.
2008-01-09 00:03 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, yes, it is. i have an 86 volvo that has about the same milage...
2008-01-09 00:03 < Luna-San> And a rough life, to boot
2008-01-09 00:04 < LuciferTiger> "my only job in life is to keep her off the pole"
2008-01-09 00:04 < Nathyn> I wrote another essay, guys. Your opinion, plz.
2008-01-09 00:04 < Nathyn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_be_a_dork
2008-01-09 00:04 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, it was originally a rental car, than a company car, than a personal car. it was in great condition when we got it. it was 3 years old and had 140,000 on it....
2008-01-09 00:04 < uberpenguin> essays are retarded
2008-01-09 00:04 < Nathyn> You're retarded.
2008-01-09 00:04 < uberpenguin> everyone writes one eventually, but nobody reads them and nobody cares
2008-01-09 00:04 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, which is totally insane
2008-01-09 00:05 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, mom's current car was a year old, was originally owned by a drug rep, and had 60,000 on it...it must be like 2 years old now.
2008-01-09 00:05 < uberpenguin> well you asked my opinion, not for me to dote
2008-01-09 00:05 < Mike_H> That essay made me :(
2008-01-09 00:05 < uberpenguin> 'sup Mike_H
2008-01-09 00:05 < Mike_H> hey
2008-01-09 00:05 < Mike_H> Nathyn: No offense, it's just, the dork stuff doesn't interest me
2008-01-09 00:05 < Mike_H> so it was kind of like Charlie Brown's teachers
2008-01-09 00:05 < Mike_H> wah wah wahhhhhhh
2008-01-09 00:05 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, an interesting statistic is that if you put miles on your car faster, it will last more miles.
2008-01-09 00:06 < Luna-San> Leslie_S: Really? Huh
2008-01-09 00:06 < uberpenguin> wikipedia without nerds is wikipedia no more
2008-01-09 00:06 < Luna-San> I've heard freeway miles tend to be nicer on engines
2008-01-09 00:06 < uberpenguin> frankly, RC patrol doesn't work without severe obsessive-compulsive disorder
2008-01-09 00:06 < Nathyn> If only Wikipedians would read more than the titles of essays, articles, and proposals...
2008-01-09 00:06 < Nathyn> If only.
2008-01-09 00:06 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, the body starts rusting out at around the same age unless you absolutely baby the car, or live in an area where it doesnt snow
2008-01-09 00:06 < Mike_H> Uh, I read it.
2008-01-09 00:06 < Nathyn> So, what's the problem?
2008-01-09 00:06 < Mike_H> The references in the article bore me
2008-01-09 00:06 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, so if you live in michigan and have a 20 year old car, it might have 100,000 miles on it and be rusted out to the point of being unsafe.
2008-01-09 00:06 < uberpenguin> me too... you linked several articles I had a big hand in editing ages ago
2008-01-09 00:06 < Mike_H> like, I don't care about Linux
2008-01-09 00:07 * uberpenguin doesn't approve of the font, personally
2008-01-09 00:07 < Nathyn> So, what DO you care about? Can you think of any better examples I could use, to make the essay more interesting?
2008-01-09 00:07 < Mike_H> Both users were blocked from editing the article on John Buscema for 30 days and they could've avoided that fate had they either tried to compromise or let it go. It's not worth being blocked over.
2008-01-09 00:07 < Mike_H> like that
2008-01-09 00:07 < Mike_H> who IS that?
2008-01-09 00:07 < Nathyn> Hmm?
2008-01-09 00:07 < Mike_H> Who is John Buscemi
2008-01-09 00:07 < Mike_H> ma
2008-01-09 00:07 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, also, none of the crashes that mercury had were at high speed. for example, it got hit by a uhaul sliding on ice at 1mph (and the car slid 3 feet after the truck hit it, so it was pretty icy..)
2008-01-09 00:08 < Nathyn> I have no fucking idea.
2008-01-09 00:08 < Mike_H> I care about soap operas, Top Model, and getting sauced at bars, so you know
2008-01-09 00:08 < Mike_H> non-dork things
2008-01-09 00:08 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, no damage to the uhaul (which was not insured)
2008-01-09 00:08 < LuciferTiger> anyone wants to read something with an interesting take on the devil?
2008-01-09 00:08 < Luna-San> Leslie_S: Ever been in a bus that gets hit by a car? It's more fun to be in the bigger ride.
2008-01-09 00:08 < Nathyn> Mike -- that's sort of the point: Nobody knows or cares who John Buscemi is, making edit-warring over it all the more retarded.
2008-01-09 00:08 < Mike_H> Nathyn: It just isn't my cup of tea. Surely it's someone else's, but it isn't mine
2008-01-09 00:08 < Mike_H> that's all
2008-01-09 00:09 < Nathyn> Alright.
2008-01-09 00:09 < Mike_H> is the writing good?
2008-01-09 00:09 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-01-09 00:09 < Nathyn> Was the image over the top?
2008-01-09 00:09 < LuciferTiger> you be the jidge
2008-01-09 00:09 < LuciferTiger> http://satyamlucifer.blogspot.com/2006/06/666.html
2008-01-09 00:09 < Mike_H> the image was way dorky
2008-01-09 00:09 < Mike_H> so that's a plus
2008-01-09 00:09 < LuciferTiger> *judge
2008-01-09 00:09 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, i was standing outside when this happened.
2008-01-09 00:09 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, watching it
2008-01-09 00:10 < Leslie_S> Luna-San, the car was parked, the uhaul was attempting to park
2008-01-09 00:10 < Nathyn> Well anyway, I just wanted y'all opinion. I'll be AFK, d00dz.
2008-01-09 00:10 < Mike_H> bye
2008-01-09 00:10 < Mike_H> d...00...d
2008-01-09 00:10 < Leslie_S> the uhaul just couldnt stop. they get really bad traction when theyre empty..
2008-01-09 00:10 < Mike_H> bah, way dorky
2008-01-09 00:10 < Nathyn> roffles wut
2008-01-09 00:10 < Mike_H> I tried, damn it
2008-01-09 00:10 < Luna-San> Ah, never had to park something that large. Probably a bitch.
2008-01-09 00:10 < Nathyn> wut
2008-01-09 00:10 < Mike_H> I tried typing in dork
2008-01-09 00:11 < Mike_H> it was very uncomfortable
2008-01-09 00:11 < uberpenguin> damn the RC patrol wikipedos work fast these days... it's hard to even sneak subtle things by
2008-01-09 00:11 < uberpenguin> but I'm tricksier than they
2008-01-09 00:11 * FastLizard4|busy is confused because it took longer to ping himself than ChanServ
2008-01-09 00:13 * Mike_H NP: Van McCoy - The Hustle (1975)
2008-01-09 00:13 < Mike_H> DO THE HUSTLE!
2008-01-09 00:13 < Mike_H> la la la la la la la la la
2008-01-09 00:13 < uberpenguin> DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA
2008-01-09 00:14 < Mike_H> la la la la la la la la la
2008-01-09 00:14 < uberpenguin> mike, I would pay money to be in the same room as you doing the hustle
2008-01-09 00:14 < LuciferTiger> do the locomotion do the locomotion... do the locomotion with meeeee
2008-01-09 00:14 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Good, I'll be in Atlanta sometime soon
2008-01-09 00:15 * FastLizard4|busy gets ready to throw Mike
2008-01-09 00:15 < uberpenguin> even more if you have a costume which involves shiny PVC, sequins, and platform shoes
2008-01-09 00:15 * FastLizard4|busy ...out of a window
2008-01-09 00:15 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: I'm sure Atlanta has some big and fat stores that specialize in tacky vintage.
2008-01-09 00:16 < uberpenguin> I'm quite sure
2008-01-09 00:16 < uberpenguin> funny thing, I've accidentally run into that sort of thing in Columbus more than atlanta
2008-01-09 00:17 < uberpenguin> like, I was getting a suit down there a few years back and couldn't help but notice a stylin' bright red fedora with a huge purple feather and an alligator skin patterned band hanging on the wall
2008-01-09 00:17 < uberpenguin> next to a suit in matching colors and trim
2008-01-09 00:17 < uberpenguin> next to another suit which was the brightest shade of orange I think my eyes are capable of discerning
2008-01-09 00:17 < uberpenguin> I was tempted to get the orange one
2008-01-09 00:17 < Mike_H> Oh, you were in the black part of town.
2008-01-09 00:17 < Mike_H> but it's Columbuis
2008-01-09 00:18 < Mike_H> *Columbus
2008-01-09 00:18 < uberpenguin> the whole town is the black part of town
2008-01-09 00:18 < Mike_H> the better question is
2008-01-09 00:18 < Nathyn> Hey, Mike H -- this is just a random guess, but.. You wouldn't happen to be "Mike Huben," author of the non-Libertarian FAQ?
2008-01-09 00:18 < Mike_H> "where's the white part of town?"
2008-01-09 00:18 < Mike_H> Nathyn: no
2008-01-09 00:18 < uberpenguin> there are isolated whitey islands
2008-01-09 00:18 < uberpenguin> known as trailer parks
2008-01-09 00:18 < Nathyn> k
2008-01-09 00:18 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Oh, I was thinking that was "Phenix City, Alabama"
2008-01-09 00:18 < uberpenguin> phenix city is pretty black too
2008-01-09 00:18 < uberpenguin> but the borders do skirt deep redneck territory
2008-01-09 00:18 < theINC> So how's the internet going these days?
2008-01-09 00:19 < Mike_H> you know what town was really white?
2008-01-09 00:19 < Mike_H> fuckin' Opelika
2008-01-09 00:19 < uberpenguin> haha, no kidding
2008-01-09 00:19 < uberpenguin> Eufala too
2008-01-09 00:19 < Mike_H> ew, Eufaula
2008-01-09 00:19 < Mike_H> yeah, for real
2008-01-09 00:19 < uberpenguin> "towns that I've only passed through"
2008-01-09 00:19 < Mike_H> My brother was at Fort Benning
2008-01-09 00:19 < uberpenguin> actually there's a wendy's in eufaula which I've patronized many a time
2008-01-09 00:19 < Mike_H> Columbus felt like
2008-01-09 00:19 < uberpenguin> and that's about it
2008-01-09 00:20 < Mike_H> like I needed a tetanus shot to go there
2008-01-09 00:20 < LuciferTiger> http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080107/bill-gates-last-day-microsoft-video/
2008-01-09 00:20 < uberpenguin> columbus only contains army retirees and...
2008-01-09 00:20 < uberpenguin> nothing
2008-01-09 00:20 < Mike_H> and black peoples
2008-01-09 00:20 < uberpenguin> all my grandparents used to live there
2008-01-09 00:20 < Mike_H> they just need to rename it
2008-01-09 00:20 < Mike_H> Ye Olde Blacke Towne
2008-01-09 00:20 < uberpenguin> now HERE'S a real kicker:
2008-01-09 00:20 < uberpenguin> one of my cousins is a rather stereotypical norcal girl
2008-01-09 00:20 < uberpenguin> she married one of the most redneck alabama boys imaginable
2008-01-09 00:21 < uberpenguin> and moved to columbus
2008-01-09 00:21 < uberpenguin> I was aghast... nobody saw that coming
2008-01-09 00:21 < uberpenguin> (he's a really nice redneck, though)
2008-01-09 00:24 < Mike_H> heh
2008-01-09 00:25 < LuciferTiger> ewww
2008-01-09 00:25 < uberpenguin> okay, disclaimer: "most redneck alabama boy imaginable" is a bit of hyperbole
2008-01-09 00:25 < LuciferTiger> oh ok
2008-01-09 00:25 < uberpenguin> he does actually have a skill and a good job and isn't dumb as mudd
2008-01-09 00:25 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Here, be happy for some trashy bitches
2008-01-09 00:25 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QVOHI935khM
2008-01-09 00:25 < LuciferTiger> so basically it was all rhetoric
2008-01-09 00:25 < uberpenguin> trashy bitches generally make me hateful
2008-01-09 00:25 < uberpenguin> and I'm already hateful over unrelated isues
2008-01-09 00:25 < uberpenguin> *issues
2008-01-09 00:26 < uberpenguin> ahaha I love this show
2008-01-09 00:26 < LuciferTiger> all of them are yucky
2008-01-09 00:26 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: On my TV website
2008-01-09 00:26 < Mike_H> we play "survival games"
2008-01-09 00:26 < uberpenguin> tyra looks scary as all getup there
2008-01-09 00:26 < Mike_H> right now we're on Cycle 7, Bitchiest Contestant Ever
2008-01-09 00:26 < uberpenguin> IMO
2008-01-09 00:26 < Mike_H> each girl starts at 15 points
2008-01-09 00:26 < Mike_H> and if you think they're bitchy, you go ++
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> and increase their score by 2
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> if you liked them, do -- and decrease by 2
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> Melrose ++
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> Monique ++
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> Eugena ++
2008-01-09 00:27 < uberpenguin> holy crap this is awesome: "A girl named Cyndel, who referred to herself as an entertainer and told the judges that she works at a strip club said she considered that stripping "was another part of modeling.""
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> 17 Eugena
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> 17 Melrose
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> 17 Monique
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> etc.
2008-01-09 00:27 < LuciferTiger> Mike_H ++
2008-01-09 00:27 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-09 00:27 < Mike_H> :(
2008-01-09 00:28 < uberpenguin> geeez these girls are painfully thin
2008-01-09 00:28 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Yeah, Cyndel did that
2008-01-09 00:28 < Mike_H> it was hilarious
2008-01-09 00:28 < LuciferTiger> hey ++ is good!
2008-01-09 00:28 < uberpenguin> and _I'm_ painfully thin so I don't usually criticize
2008-01-09 00:28 < Mike_H> LuciferTiger: I voted for Bitchiest Contestant Ever
2008-01-09 00:28 < Mike_H> ++ is bitchier
2008-01-09 00:28 < uberpenguin> okay, seriously, tyra is scaring me
2008-01-09 00:28 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: You know who scares me more?
2008-01-09 00:29 < Mike_H> Monique.
2008-01-09 00:29 < LuciferTiger> Hike_H i know. Im just nice cuz u seem to op sometimes. ;)
2008-01-09 00:29 < uberpenguin> I'm watching this with the volume down and I'm becoming more and more convinced that she's a werewolf out for blood
2008-01-09 00:29 < Mike_H> Monique is perhaps the ugliest scariest grossest girl ever. It's like she took a wrong turn looking for the Flavor of Love casting.
2008-01-09 00:29 < uberpenguin> pic of monique?
2008-01-09 00:29 < uberpenguin> (watching with the volume down)
2008-01-09 00:29 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: She is the last one called
2008-01-09 00:30 < uberpenguin> k
2008-01-09 00:30 < Mike_H> I love how CariDee weeps
2008-01-09 00:30 < Mike_H> like someone cured her of cancer
2008-01-09 00:31 < uberpenguin> ehh... she's not as ugly as clefty chin there
2008-01-09 00:32 < uberpenguin> that is a feature that could be considered very attractive
2008-01-09 00:32 < uberpenguin> on a man
2008-01-09 00:32 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: I love the cheery music they play when they put the girls into the big photo one by one
2008-01-09 00:32 < Mike_H> sometimes I mimic their poses
2008-01-09 00:32 < Mike_H> while I hear the music
2008-01-09 00:32 < uberpenguin> i'll have to watch it with sound tomorrow
2008-01-09 00:32 < Mike_H> because I have no life
2008-01-09 00:32 < uberpenguin> you know, watching this from an entirely emotionally detatched perspective is pretty bemusing
2008-01-09 00:32 < LuciferTiger> Mike_H that makes the 2 of us.
2008-01-09 00:33 < uberpenguin> yeah well _I_ have even less life than both of you combined
2008-01-09 00:33 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Turn up the volume a little for this next clip
2008-01-09 00:33 < Mike_H> it's worth it
2008-01-09 00:33 < uberpenguin> can't... risk waking the ogres
2008-01-09 00:33 < Mike_H> it's a chronicle of every ugly nasty gross thing Monique ever did in the house
2008-01-09 00:33 < Leslie_S> why do people on irc treat me like shit?
2008-01-09 00:33 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=AZL23L68rxA
2008-01-09 00:33 < uberpenguin> because you're usually complaining or just ranting about something dramatic that people don't care about?
2008-01-09 00:34 < NotACow> Leslie_S: because you're annoying?
2008-01-09 00:34 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, no im not.
2008-01-09 00:34 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Okay, then let's watch and I'll narrate
2008-01-09 00:34 < uberpenguin> well you asked an opinion
2008-01-09 00:34 < Mike_H> There were 13 girls and 11 beds
2008-01-09 00:34 < Mike_H> Monique didn't get a bed, so she poured water on Eugena's bed and told her she peed on it, so she could get her bed.
2008-01-09 00:34 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, for example, a few minutes ago, i told someone (in a conversation) in #defocus that i didnt know why i was in school. someone else busts in to say that nobody cares.
2008-01-09 00:34 < uberpenguin> haha, clever
2008-01-09 00:34 < Mike_H> Eugena clearly doesn't believe her, since she actually touches the wet spot, but Monique got Eugena's bed
2008-01-09 00:35 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, also, im really fucking sorry if my suffering inconveniences you. thats why theres a /ignore.
2008-01-09 00:35 < uberpenguin> Leslie_S: welcome to IRC... everybody hates you by default, and you are no exception to the rule
2008-01-09 00:35 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, people could always use it instead of treating me like shit.
2008-01-09 00:35 < Mike_H> The second scene: Monique is pissed because the other girls get up with their alarms and Monique's sleep is interrupted
2008-01-09 00:35 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, i dont see why i put up with it.
2008-01-09 00:35 < uberpenguin> I can ignore people the old-fashioned way... I don't need technology to assist me
2008-01-09 00:35 < Mike_H> The third scene: Monique cries because nobody has seen her without her weave before
2008-01-09 00:35 < Leslie_S> real life is bad enough
2008-01-09 00:35 < uberpenguin> Leslie_S: no clue, I suggest taking some time to ponder that question
2008-01-09 00:36 < Mike_H> The fourth scene: Monique failed a challenge and didn't get to meet Queen Latifah, so she took it out on the girls and occupied the house phone for almost four hours
2008-01-09 00:36 < Mike_H> Anchal finally goes in and hangs up the phone on her
2008-01-09 00:36 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, im going to leave.
2008-01-09 00:36 < Mike_H> and then Monique just continues to sit by the phone, pretending to be in a call, complete with *if you would like to make a call, please hang up and dial again* sound
2008-01-09 00:37 < uberpenguin> Leslie_S: okay, see you tomorrow then
2008-01-09 00:37 < Leslie_S> uberpenguin, go to hell. i wont be back tomorrow.
2008-01-09 00:37 < Leslie_S> i'll fucking find something to do that doesnt make me more depressed than i already am.
2008-01-09 00:37 < uberpenguin> okay, next week then
2008-01-09 00:37 < LuciferTiger> DAMN gotta take a shot again
2008-01-09 00:37 < uberpenguin> I need to start keeping track of how many times ... hahaha
2008-01-09 00:37 < uberpenguin> LuciferTiger++
2008-01-09 00:37 < Mike_H> Dude, I like her and all
2008-01-09 00:37 < Mike_H> but I do not respond well to sympathy ploys
2008-01-09 00:38 < uberpenguin> me neither
2008-01-09 00:38 < LuciferTiger> uberpenguin ++ ++ ++
2008-01-09 00:38 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: 3:47 is the disgusting part
2008-01-09 00:38 * uberpenguin fast-forwards
2008-01-09 00:38 < Mike_H> Monique puts her hand up her towel, wipes juice off her cooch, and flings it on Melrose's face
2008-01-09 00:38 < LuciferTiger> uberpenguin: that shot remark was in reference to "change" on TV
2008-01-09 00:38 < uberpenguin> uh... eww
2008-01-09 00:39 < Mike_H> and Melrose says
2008-01-09 00:39 < Mike_H> "It smells like an egg! No, a seventeen-year-old spoiled pumpkin!"
2008-01-09 00:39 < uberpenguin> aww man, the retches from the other girls didn't deliver
2008-01-09 00:39 < uberpenguin> I wanted to see vomit
2008-01-09 00:39 * uberpenguin is sick
2008-01-09 00:39 < uberpenguin> ahh they're probably all running on empty anyway
2008-01-09 00:39 < Mike_H> starting at 5:55
2008-01-09 00:39 < Mike_H> Monique wipes her dirty stained underwear on Melrose's bed
2008-01-09 00:39 < Mike_H> while Melrose is sleeping
2008-01-09 00:40 < uberpenguin> haha... she's grosser than most 8 year old boys
2008-01-09 00:40 < Luna-San> Marking her territory, eh? >.>
2008-01-09 00:40 < LuciferTiger> ughh
2008-01-09 00:40 < Mike_H> Melrose: She just wiped something on my bed!
2008-01-09 00:40 < Mike_H> Jaeda: That's so icky.
2008-01-09 00:40 < LuciferTiger> asl plz
2008-01-09 00:40 < uberpenguin> if it were me I'd just go nuts with a bucket of freezing ice water in the middle of the night
2008-01-09 00:40 < uberpenguin> retribution is so sweet
2008-01-09 00:40 < Mike_H> and then Monique got sick
2008-01-09 00:41 < Mike_H> didn't go to a photo shoot
2008-01-09 00:41 < Mike_H> and got kicked off the show
2008-01-09 00:41 < LuciferTiger> that might have been a ploy that backfired OR something unrelated, Mike_H
2008-01-09 00:41 < Nathyn> Hey, a question for the room: Just answer "I" or "D" to the following question: Are you more of an INCLUSIONIST or a DELETIONIST?
2008-01-09 00:41 < Mike_H> LuciferTiger: When she got kicked off, she basically was like "I hate that Melrose won over me"
2008-01-09 00:42 < Mike_H> so basically she didn't even care about the prize anymore, she was immature and wanted to win a fight over Melrose
2008-01-09 00:42 < LuciferTiger> ploy that backfired.
2008-01-09 00:42 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: you know, the random scenes from this video roughly play into my concept of hell
2008-01-09 00:42 < uberpenguin> for whatever reason
2008-01-09 00:42 < uberpenguin> I mean that metaphorically, not literally of course
2008-01-09 00:42 < LuciferTiger> Nathyn: go ahead
2008-01-09 00:42 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: Complete with shots of Miss J in the Mamie Eisenhower wig?
2008-01-09 00:42 < Nathyn> Go ahead, what?
2008-01-09 00:42 < uberpenguin> X
2008-01-09 00:42 < uberpenguin> whichever causes the most trouble at the moment
2008-01-09 00:43 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: exactly
2008-01-09 00:43 < LuciferTiger> oh ok i thought u were going to ask another Q
2008-01-09 00:43 < LuciferTiger> what were those 2 in reference to?
2008-01-09 00:44 < MUNCHLAX> [00:42:50] <Tatsh> wikipedia's panic article is making me feel way better right now
2008-01-09 00:44 < MUNCHLAX> [00:42:52] <Tatsh> i'm still coming off this attack
2008-01-09 00:44 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: I love the comments on the video
2008-01-09 00:44 < Mike_H> shes not from chicago she lived down the street in ontario ca. shes been a brat since 8 yrs old. I got into it with her a few times in jr high. snobby.
2008-01-09 00:44 < Nathyn> Lucifer, answer the question first, please.
2008-01-09 00:44 < Mike_H> and then someone replied:
2008-01-09 00:44 < Mike_H> You knew Monique? I'm so sorry.
2008-01-09 00:44 < Nathyn> Since you didn't read my whole statement before responding, I assume you're an inclusionist.
2008-01-09 00:45 < NotACow> DEATH TO ISTS
2008-01-09 00:45 < Nathyn> Nevermind.. I'm sorry for being in a bad mood.
2008-01-09 00:45 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: fortunately life typically takes care of charming personalities like hers in an ironic fashion
2008-01-09 00:45 < Nathyn> Here's why I asked. Look at this absurdity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Someone_delete_Chocolate_Thai.2C_please.
2008-01-09 00:45 < uberpenguin> NotACow: ++
2008-01-09 00:45 < LuciferTiger> Nathyn ++
2008-01-09 00:46 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: She wouldn't have fallen ill with dehydration if she
2008-01-09 00:46 < uberpenguin> any wiki "philosophy" which goes much beyond "screw it" is of no interest to moi
2008-01-09 00:46 < Mike_H> you know
2008-01-09 00:46 < Luna-San> Nathyn: Yeah, that seemed an odd thing to get worked up over
2008-01-09 00:46 < Mike_H> kept her bodily fluids to herself
2008-01-09 00:46 < Mike_H> instead of trying to smear them on Melrose
2008-01-09 00:46 < uberpenguin> ohh burn
2008-01-09 00:46 < Nathyn> Luna, it's annoying because inclusionism is very influential on Wikipedia.
2008-01-09 00:46 * NotACow lives just outside melrose park
2008-01-09 00:46 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pzBzfPTYnxw
2008-01-09 00:46 < Mike_H> Jade was probably as heinous as Monique
2008-01-09 00:46 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: I'd love to, but it's getting past my bedtime
2008-01-09 00:47 < Mike_H> except Jade was just, like, delusional, not totally hateful
2008-01-09 00:47 < uberpenguin> ohh... maybe this one last one
2008-01-09 00:47 < LuciferTiger> Nathyn: I did read the whole Q. i just thought u wanted an opinion on a specific article and wanted to know if we would keep it or leave it.
2008-01-09 00:47 < uberpenguin> ooo... delusional you say?
2008-01-09 00:47 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-01-09 00:47 < Nathyn> What do you mean, LT? I want Chocolate Thai deleted, ASAP.
2008-01-09 00:47 < Nathyn> There's consensus on the AfD and it's been over 5 days. Anyone who is an admin here can delete it.
2008-01-09 00:47 < NotACow> what if you like chocolate thai?
2008-01-09 00:47 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: I wrote about it on Wikinews Reports
2008-01-09 00:48 * uberpenguin digs the girls with short haircuts
2008-01-09 00:48 < Nathyn> What are you talking about?
2008-01-09 00:48 < uberpenguin> no idea why
2008-01-09 00:48 < Mike_H> she was one of the people most requested for an interview
2008-01-09 00:48 < Mike_H> Jade Cole (Cycle 6) - Do we need to say more about Jade? "Exotic biracial butterfly"? "Soldier sister"? "The undiscovered supermodel"? She could take wonderful pictures but at times her personality was totally rank, but let's face it, she made for great television. Who could forget that poetic line "Furonda, my dear/I know your skin is bumpy/But my skin is flawless/And you look really lumpy"?
2008-01-09 00:49 < uberpenguin> oof... this video makes my skin crawl
2008-01-09 00:49 < uberpenguin> skinny white folks shouldn't act like that
2008-01-09 00:49 < uberpenguin> ever
2008-01-09 00:49 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: But Joanie's with a volleyball diva! A hot Latina! And two African queens!
2008-01-09 00:49 < uberpenguin> trust me, that hasn't escaped my notice
2008-01-09 00:49 < uberpenguin> I just didn't choose to comment on it
2008-01-09 00:50 < Mike_H> Joanie was a preacher's daughter
2008-01-09 00:50 < Mike_H> she rebelled by becoming a stripper
2008-01-09 00:50 < Mike_H> After Jade goes off on Furonda
2008-01-09 00:50 < Mike_H> Joanie's like
2008-01-09 00:51 < Mike_H> "None of us went there. We didn't go, 'Yo, Jade, you look like an 85-year-old woman!'"
2008-01-09 00:51 < uberpenguin> laff... 2600
2008-01-09 00:52 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5pegghehsDw
2008-01-09 00:52 < Mike_H> Jade gets called a drag queen
2008-01-09 00:52 < uberpenguin> eh, I can see the resemblance
2008-01-09 00:52 < uberpenguin> but I have to pass, I really need to get some sleep
2008-01-09 00:52 < uberpenguin> too long a day
2008-01-09 00:52 < uberpenguin> ttfn, mike et. al.
2008-01-09 00:52 < Mike_H> bye
2008-01-09 00:53 < FastLizard4|busy> Good night, uberpenguin
2008-01-09 01:05 < Schroeder> OBJECTIVE FACT: Kenny G is NOT jazz
2008-01-09 01:07 * MooingLemur moos at NotACow
2008-01-09 01:15 < Mike_H> And then, just when things seem to be going well, it's Jade's turn. "My name is Jade, the ace of spades. Furonda, my dear, I know your skin is bumpy, but my skin is flawless, and you look really lumpy." You can hear the "Oooooooh" before she even finishes. Seriously, that is rude, and even Nick thinks so.
2008-01-09 01:15 < Mike_H> haha
2008-01-09 01:15 < Mike_H> oh, Jade.
2008-01-09 01:38 * FastLizard4 must now go to bed, says good night to everyone
2008-01-09 01:45 * quanticle bye everyone
2008-01-09 01:59 * LuciferTiger waves everyone goodbye...
2008-01-09 02:03 < The359> heh
2008-01-09 02:03 < The359> I wonder how many times people have vandalized [[The Daily Show]] to change it to [[A Daily Show]]
2008-01-09 02:14 < Lubaf> Damn. Hillary won.
2008-01-09 02:14 < Lubaf> This means we'll have to listen to more of her whining.
2008-01-09 02:15 < DannyLilithborne> ...yay? ^_^
2008-01-09 02:15 < Mark_Away> I don't know why people here are so anti-Hillary
2008-01-09 02:15 < Mark_Away> I'd vote for her
2008-01-09 02:16 < Mark_Away> I definitely wouldn't vote for a black guy. you can't trust the blacks.
2008-01-09 02:17 < Mark_Away> </sarcasm>
2008-01-09 02:17 < MUNCHLAX> haha ron paul got wrecked
2008-01-09 02:18 < MUNCHLAX> I know someone who won $25 of pretend fiat money from that
2008-01-09 02:19 < Mark_Away> huckabee didn't do too well without the evangelical vote
2008-01-09 02:19 < Mark_Away> do you think he has a chance on a national level?
2008-01-09 02:20 < DannyLilithborne> "President Huckabee" shall not help international opinion
2008-01-09 02:21 < MUNCHLAX> I'm voting bush anyway
2008-01-09 02:22 * The359 voets Perot
2008-01-09 02:22 < DannyLilithborne> I'm voting Donald Duck
2008-01-09 02:22 < DannyLilithborne> or maybe Guile
2008-01-09 02:22 < MUNCHLAX> vote ducks in a pram
2008-01-09 02:22 < Krimpet> I feel like voting Biden even though he dropped out -_-
2008-01-09 02:24 < Mark_Away> DannyLilithborne: you mean, The Very Reverend President Huckabee?
2008-01-09 02:24 < Mark_Away> or whatever title he has.
2008-01-09 02:25 < DannyLilithborne> ^_^
2008-01-09 02:25 < DannyLilithborne> the name Huckabee is enough
2008-01-09 02:25 < DannyLilithborne> might as well be President Cletus Hornswaggle
2008-01-09 02:25 < Mark_Away> well, don't forget 'bush' is a euphamism for public hair/female private parts.
2008-01-09 02:26 < Mark_Away> actually, I mean pubic hair, a very non-public form of hair.
2008-01-09 02:27 < Mark_Away> so Huckabee's from Arkansas. so was Bill Clinton, wasn't he?
2008-01-09 02:27 < The359> he was Arkansas's Governor, yes
2008-01-09 02:27 < The359> just like Clinton
2008-01-09 02:27 < DannyLilithborne> when was the last time we had a President whose name ended with a non-silent vowel?
2008-01-09 02:28 < DannyLilithborne> Kennedy doesn't count, that's a sometimes-vowel :D
2008-01-09 02:28 < The359> pronounced as a vowel though
2008-01-09 02:29 < DannyLilithborne> :P
2008-01-09 02:30 < Mike_H> We haven't had one.
2008-01-09 02:30 < Mike_H> and yes, I just went through all of them in my head.
2008-01-09 02:30 < DannyLilithborne> wow ^_^
2008-01-09 02:30 < Mike_H> It's not shocking
2008-01-09 02:30 < Mike_H> most of our presidents have been Anglo-Saxon
2008-01-09 02:31 < Mark_Away> what about James Monroe? it's a silent 'e' now, but maybe back then they pronounced things differently. we'll never know...
2008-01-09 02:31 < DannyLilithborne> yeah Monroe :D
2008-01-09 02:32 < Mark_Away> either way, I think it's clear that America might be ready for a black president, but they're not ready for one with a foreign-sounding surname
2008-01-09 02:32 < Mike_H> It was never Mon-row-ee.
2008-01-09 02:34 < Mark_Away> "Modern doctors believe that [George] Washington died from either epiglottitis or, since he was bled as part of the treatment, a combination of shock from the loss of five pints of blood, as well as asphyxia and dehydration."
2008-01-09 02:34 < bumm13> Mike_H-ee
2008-01-09 02:37 < Mike_H> I had one of those Betty Crocker meal in a box things tonight
2008-01-09 02:37 < Mike_H> Cheesy Beef Taco
2008-01-09 02:37 < bumm13> aww :(
2008-01-09 02:37 < Mike_H> it wasn't so good
2008-01-09 02:37 < Mike_H> I mean
2008-01-09 02:37 < Mike_H> it was a meal
2008-01-09 02:37 < Mike_H> but I'll never buy it again
2008-01-09 02:37 < bumm13> ah
2008-01-09 02:38 < Mike_H> I like the Betty Crocker stroganoff meal in a box, though
2008-01-09 02:38 < Mark_Away> i've got a packet of Betty Crocker "Just Add Milk" cookie mix in the pantry, I should make some
2008-01-09 02:41 < Mike_H> bumm13: How Betty Crocker changed
2008-01-09 02:41 < Mike_H> http://chnm.gmu.edu/features/sidelights/resources/bettys1.jpeg
2008-01-09 02:41 < Mike_H> http://chnm.gmu.edu/features/sidelights/resources/bettys2.jpeg
2008-01-09 02:43 < bumm13> interesting :)
2008-01-09 02:43 < bumm13> "1988 - Betty dies from malfunctioning Easy Bake Oven that explodes in her face"
2008-01-09 02:44 < Mike_H> haha
2008-01-09 02:47 < bumm13> speaking of Betty, have you seen what they've done to Archie comics? :x
2008-01-09 02:52 < Mike_H> no
2008-01-09 02:58 < bumm13> Mike_H: hmm, maybe not as drastic as I thought
2008-01-09 02:58 < bumm13> but at least some of them are now drawn to appear "graphical" (pseudo three-dimensional)
2008-01-09 03:01 < Mike_H> oh
2008-01-09 03:01 < Mike_H> :/
2008-01-09 03:04 < bumm13> is nothing sacred!
2008-01-09 03:04 < bumm13> ?
2008-01-09 03:04 < bumm13> ;p
2008-01-09 03:05 < Luna-San> You know it's a good mailing list when you get notices with, "Hi, MEMBER_NAME!"
2008-01-09 03:12 < _Certh_> xrenovo
2008-01-09 03:12 < bparkis> smite
2008-01-09 03:12 < bparkis> the bugle minded
2008-01-09 03:25 < bparkis> arbetus MITUS begongle!
2008-01-09 03:28 < Triona> whee. I'm doing a good job of breaking my monobook.js today
2008-01-09 03:31 < bparkis> good!
2008-01-09 03:32 < bparkis> bad!
2008-01-09 03:33 < Triona> fixed it... I'd left some things that were redundant in there when I added twinkle... and kindof made my browser a bit confused
2008-01-09 04:22 < Tony_Sidaway> Any admins want to look at an attack speedy for me?
2008-01-09 04:26 < amidaniel> Tony_Sidaway: Aren't you an admin? :S
2008-01-09 04:26 < Tony_Sidaway> amidaniel: not since I resigned, well over a year ago.
2008-01-09 04:27 < amidaniel> Oh :) Wow, I'm out of touch :P
2008-01-09 04:27 < amidaniel> I'll take a look at it if you want
2008-01-09 04:28 < Tony_Sidaway> Jmlk17 deleted it as G3
2008-01-09 04:28 < Tony_Sidaway> (whatever that is)
2008-01-09 04:29 < Tony_Sidaway> I had tagged it as G10 (attack page) but same difference if it's dead.
2008-01-09 04:30 < amidaniel> Alright
2008-01-09 05:38 < NWMonster> wikipedia is so cool,but i can't surf it in china.:-(
2008-01-09 05:58 < rtc> Can somebody please help? An edit war is going on in [[hacker]]. I tried to start an RFC, but the user removed it. I asked someone else here some days ago to have a look at it, but the rants and bulldozing continue
2008-01-09 06:03 < Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:"Nuke this article from orbit" as an AfD vote]]
2008-01-09 06:03 < Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:"Burn it with fire" as a DRV vote]]
2008-01-09 06:06 < Brittany> does anyone know if there's a spanish wiki room? it's hard to find with all these channels
2008-01-09 06:07 < nazgjunk> #wikipedia-es if any
2008-01-09 06:07 < nazgjunk> it's pretty small
2008-01-09 06:07 < Brittany> good to know though, thank you
2008-01-09 06:17 < Tony_Sidaway> That recent BBC interview with Jimmy Wales was pretty good.
2008-01-09 06:17 < Tony_Sidaway> Doc_glasgow made a comment about it on wikien-l
2008-01-09 06:19 < Tony_Sidaway> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2008-January/088494.html
2008-01-09 06:22 < Messedrocker> too many interviews with jimmy bob!
2008-01-09 06:22 < Messedrocker> this interview better be different from the rest
2008-01-09 06:22 < Messedrocker> i.e. copious amount of questions regarding his sex life
2008-01-09 06:24 < Rinn> Those are always the best interviews.
2008-01-09 06:24 < Messedrocker> or bizarre, un-ethical questions
2008-01-09 06:24 < Messedrocker> "Why are you a tool?"
2008-01-09 06:24 < Messedrocker> "Mu."
2008-01-09 06:25 < Messedrocker> "Do you still beat your wife?"
2008-01-09 06:25 < Rinn> I prefer placing them in ridiculous hypothetical situations.
2008-01-09 06:25 < Rinn> "Suppose you were Hitler. Would you kill yourself?"
2008-01-09 06:25 < Messedrocker> "Er, uh, we have an EXCELLENT Wikipedia article on Hitler. It's very comprehensive."
2008-01-09 06:26 < Brittany> what do you open a ram file with?
2008-01-09 06:26 < Triona> Realaudio usually
2008-01-09 06:26 < Messedrocker> ewwwww
2008-01-09 06:26 * Messedrocker vomits
2008-01-09 06:27 < Brittany> oh i walways forget
2008-01-09 06:27 < Rinn> Throw rocks at whoever gave you it.
2008-01-09 06:27 < Brittany> you have to save, rather than open with with VLC
2008-01-09 06:27 < Triona> Rinn: good answer :)
2008-01-09 06:28 < Brittany> ah nevermind that didn't work either.
2008-01-09 06:28 < Brittany> don't make me download realplayer. i just got rid of it.
2008-01-09 06:37 * Messedrocker jams on the air guitar
2008-01-09 06:38 < LetsGo67> How many kbps is an audio cassette?
2008-01-09 06:38 < LetsGo67> Anyone?
2008-01-09 06:39 < Messedrocker> 128kbps
2008-01-09 06:40 < Triona> More or less. It's an analog recording, so it actually has quite a bit of data...
2008-01-09 06:40 < Triona> However the QUALITY of that's iffy
2008-01-09 06:40 < LetsGo67> Triona, how come?
2008-01-09 06:41 < Triona> It's a magnetic media, and it's being read in a process subject to damage from friction.
2008-01-09 06:42 < Triona> But, as an analog media, you could potentially convert it at a very high bitrate and still lose information
2008-01-09 06:42 < Messedrocker> "Flagged revisions is currently in testing, and is expected to deploy before June, 2008"
2008-01-09 06:42 < Messedrocker> heh
2008-01-09 06:43 < Triona> So, trying to assign a bitrate to it is misleading at best.
2008-01-09 06:43 < Triona> quality-wise, they average a little better than radio quality
2008-01-09 06:44 < bumm13> radio as in FM?
2008-01-09 06:44 * bumm13 assumes so
2008-01-09 06:44 < Triona> *nods*
2008-01-09 06:45 < Triona> every read, and storage itself degrades an audiocasette though :/
2008-01-09 06:46 < bumm13> yep
2008-01-09 06:47 < Messedrocker> well cassettes in and of themselves don't have bitrates because they're analog media
2008-01-09 06:47 < Messedrocker> but i suppose when you mean they're converted to digital
2008-01-09 06:55 < Messedrocker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Book_%28CD-interactive_standard%29 << Theeeeeese are the STANDARDS of EEEVIL
2008-01-09 06:56 < bumm13> heh, there's a Beige Book and Scarlet Book ;)
2008-01-09 06:57 < bumm13> yeah, CD-i is teh suck
2008-01-09 06:58 < Messedrocker> you know I was alluding to a specific game on the CD-i right?
2008-01-09 06:58 < bumm13> ahh
2008-01-09 06:58 < bumm13> of course
2008-01-09 06:58 < bumm13> the world could not have gone forward without such "classics" ;)
2008-01-09 06:59 < Messedrocker> i'm so hungry, i could eat a Phillips CD-i player!
2008-01-09 07:03 * Messedrocker continues to beat the dead horse
2008-01-09 07:03 * Triona hands Messedrocker a club.
2008-01-09 07:04 * Messedrocker breaks open the CD-i and lets the midget inside run free
2008-01-09 07:39 < Viele-baeren> hi
2008-01-09 07:57 < NotACow> bombs away!
2008-01-09 07:59 < NotACow> b00m b00m b00m
2008-01-09 07:59 < Triona> Hmm... what's being blown up this morning?
2008-01-09 08:00 < NotACow> Triona: oh, i just lobbed a squib at a small nonprofit office in san francisco. nothing major.
2008-01-09 08:01 < Drunken_Idiot> NotACow: Hya
2008-01-09 08:01 < NotACow> Drunken_Idiot: en garde!
2008-01-09 08:01 < Drunken_Idiot> NotACow: Touchee ?
2008-01-09 08:02 * Drunken_Idiot makes peace not war.
2008-01-09 08:04 < NotACow> you're making peas?
2008-01-09 08:04 < NotACow> in january?
2008-01-09 08:04 * NotACow giggles
2008-01-09 08:12 < bainer> so what's the best way to get peas?
2008-01-09 08:14 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-09 08:14 < NotACow> bainer: raping a pea plant works well.
2008-01-09 08:15 < bainer> you're supposed to say "with a knife"
2008-01-09 08:20 < RichiH> NotACow: did wintersilence reach you? he is looking for hugenerd
2008-01-09 08:20 < RichiH> blast from the past, so to speak
2008-01-09 08:24 < NotACow> RichiH: he didn't, no
2008-01-09 08:24 < NotACow> RichiH: i haven't seen hugenerd in years
2008-01-09 08:25 < RichiH> NotACow: me neither, though he seems to log in from time to time
2008-01-09 08:47 < thedj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Deleting_Erroneous_Information
2008-01-09 08:48 < thedj> sigh.... some parents really need some internet lessons :D
2008-01-09 08:48 < Luna-San> But we're Wikipedia. We can do *anything*
2008-01-09 08:48 < Luna-San> Although it seems a bit odd that somebody looking for "how do I get an entry removed from Google?" somehow stumbled into there. Hm.
2008-01-09 08:49 < Luna-San> Curious what the progression was.
2008-01-09 08:49 < Aqwis> troll?
2008-01-09 08:49 < Luna-San> Hm, didn't really think of that, but I s'pose it's a possibility. Should check if they have other edits.
2008-01-09 08:50 < nazgjunk> google cache is awesome if you're looking for something
2008-01-09 08:50 < nazgjunk> but such a pain when you want it removed
2008-01-09 08:50 < thedj> Luna-San: google: helpdesk and you end up on wikipedia pretty quickly these days...
2008-01-09 08:51 < Luna-San> Hmm... they do have one other edit, to a Girls Gone Wild article.
2008-01-09 08:52 < thedj> ah. that's an idea...
2008-01-09 08:52 < kila> sounds.. suspicous.. given the nature of the help question. Unless that was the site
2008-01-09 08:53 < NotACow> kila: which seems likely
2008-01-09 08:53 < NotACow> GGW is run by one of the sleaziest men on the planet
2008-01-09 08:53 < kila> NotACow: mm
2008-01-09 08:53 < Suva> Hmmm...
2008-01-09 08:53 < Wout000> Can anyone help with a skin problem ?
2008-01-09 08:54 < Suva> I can't link to ED from wikipedia talk pages
2008-01-09 08:54 < Suva> "Spam Filter was triggered" :P
2008-01-09 08:54 < NotACow> Wout000: grab your yellow pages and look under "dermatologist"
2008-01-09 08:54 < thedj> haha: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Girls_Gone_Wild&diff=prev&oldid=181760743
2008-01-09 08:54 < nazgjunk> #''Girls Gone Wild: Promiscuous Pentecostals: Sunni Brannan, reigns in action (2007)
2008-01-09 08:54 < nazgjunk> I think we've got ourselves a winner >.>
2008-01-09 08:54 < Wout000> funny :)
2008-01-09 08:55 < thedj> lets google to see if that title might not simply exist
2008-01-09 08:55 < Wout000> i created a custom skin, but can't seem to activate it...
2008-01-09 08:55 < NotACow> Suva: for some reason the Powers that Be don't want links to ED on wikipedia pages.
2008-01-09 08:55 < NotACow> Suva: go figure.
2008-01-09 08:55 < thedj> nope, was unique to wikipedia
2008-01-09 08:55 < thedj> it's the toplink for her name. should we oversight that and fix google cache?
2008-01-09 08:57 < thedj> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Girls_Gone_Wild&diff=next&oldid=172531893
2008-01-09 08:57 < thedj> that's the diff.
2008-01-09 08:57 < NotACow> thedj: i'll be on wikitruth by evening :)
2008-01-09 08:57 < NotACow> er, it'll be on wikitruth
2008-01-09 08:58 < Luna-San> Because it's oh-so important.
2008-01-09 08:58 < NotACow> Luna-San: because it's full of lulz
2008-01-09 08:58 < NotACow> involuntary celibacy?
2008-01-09 08:58 < NotACow> See also "Mr. Hernandez of Nederland, Texas"
2008-01-09 08:58 < NotACow> nice editor
2008-01-09 08:58 < Luna-San> Celibacy? o.o I get the feeling I missed something really crucial in this conversation.
2008-01-09 08:59 < Suva> NotACow: I wonder why
2008-01-09 08:59 < ZnGy> hi
2008-01-09 09:00 < Suva> WP doesn't even have article on ED
2008-01-09 09:10 < Tony_Sidaway> There was an article about Encyclopedia Dramatica, but it was deleted.
2008-01-09 09:11 < arcimboldo_> Was that one of the Jimbo interventions?
2008-01-09 09:13 < Luna-San> I don't believe he got involved in that one.
2008-01-09 09:13 < Tony_Sidaway> Don't think so, though he might have been involved at some stage. I'm looking now at TWO successful afds for different incarnations of the article.
2008-01-09 09:14 < Luna-San> That I know of, at least.
2008-01-09 09:14 < Tony_Sidaway> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Encyclopedia_Dramatica seems to be early 2005
2008-01-09 09:14 < Tony_Sidaway> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_%283rd_nomination%29 July 2006
2008-01-09 09:16 < Dtobias> It got tied into the whole BADSITES thing, where there was a whole clique that breathed fire against allowing any reference to the evil sites.
2008-01-09 09:16 < Tony_Sidaway> There's a summary here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_October_3
2008-01-09 09:17 < Tony_Sidaway> From the deletion review, if it was a clique it seems to have been a bloody big one.
2008-01-09 09:18 < Triona> And understandably so.
2008-01-09 09:18 < Tony_Sidaway> The deletion of that article seems to have preceded BADSITES by several years.
2008-01-09 09:19 < TheWeasel> Thats what precedents bring
2008-01-09 09:20 < Luna-San> If I remember right, the ED deletion predates the crystallization of BADSITES, but even so, it's probably part of the evolution.
2008-01-09 09:20 < Tony_Sidaway> I don't understand that BADSITES thing at all.
2008-01-09 09:21 < Dtobias> The Cliqueistas are the driving force behind the anti-ED movement, especially MONGO.
2008-01-09 09:21 < Tony_Sidaway> What I mean is that I think it's obvious that some websites are designed for denigration and we wouldn't regard them as reliable sources.
2008-01-09 09:22 < Tony_Sidaway> MONGO, a cliquist? Must be some different MONGO.
2008-01-09 09:22 < TheWeasel> So is there a modification of the adage to say "there is no cabal, except one?"
2008-01-09 09:22 < Luna-San> I'm not sure why we'd need to link to ED, in particular, anyway.
2008-01-09 09:22 < TheWeasel> (? outside the mark)
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