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2008-01-08 17:43 < bishonen> some respect from the committee.
2008-01-08 17:43 < bishonen> that's all.
2008-01-08 17:45 < Suva> Ceiling_Cat: The link probably gets me rickrolled?
2008-01-08 17:45 < MUNCHLAX> no, it's goatse
2008-01-08 17:45 < Ceiling_Cat> Suva - I won't put any disreuptive links in the topic
2008-01-08 17:46 < Mike2> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Signs-For-Terminator-4-And-True-Lies-2-10297.shtml
2008-01-08 17:46 < Ceiling_Cat> I save those to paste into the channel at odd moments ;)
2008-01-08 17:46 < bumm13> Mike2: lol
2008-01-08 17:47 < cimon> Mike2: who was it that played hans and franz in those SNL skits?
2008-01-08 17:48 < bishonen> cimon, Dana what's it and chevy Chase, i think
2008-01-08 17:48 < NotASpy> Dana Carvey is it ?
2008-01-08 17:48 < bishonen> yes
2008-01-08 17:48 < NotASpy> him what was in Waynes World ;-)
2008-01-08 17:48 < cimon> Dana International,m the Israeli tarnsexual=?
2008-01-08 17:49 < NotASpy> Dana Transnational, the intersexual ?
2008-01-08 17:49 < cimon> Chevy chase played a body builder? Please!!! I can just about imagine Dana carvey bieng muscular, but Chevy Chase, never....
2008-01-08 17:50 < cimon> I could never imagine Chevy chace bending over ot pick up a nickle, much less a dumbell.
2008-01-08 17:51 < bishonen> cimon, they were wearing muscle suits. :-)
2008-01-08 17:51 < cimon> bishonen: yes, but the principle stands.
2008-01-08 17:51 < bishonen> Dana Carvey is a cute little tiny fellow.
2008-01-08 17:52 * bishonen is lost in dreams about cute little fellows
2008-01-08 17:52 < cimon> Now, isn't that Special.
2008-01-08 17:52 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/22/na-polk-needled-noodled-in-evolution-flap/
2008-01-08 17:52 < Ceiling_Cat> Yet a few weeks later, the controversy is dying with a whimper. There's no board support for a challenge to the proposed standards. Some of the five school board members blame the local newspaper for trying to start a fight.
2008-01-08 17:52 < Ceiling_Cat> "It's not our agenda," said Tim Harris, one of the board members. "My personal opinion and how I vote don't always jibe."
2008-01-08 17:52 < Ceiling_Cat> What happened? You can start with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
2008-01-08 17:52 < Suva> Ceiling_Cat: Ah, I see
2008-01-08 17:52 < bishonen> cimon, ah. not so cute as the Church Lady, no.
2008-01-08 17:52 < Ceiling_Cat> The satirical religious Web site asserts that an omnipotent, airborne clump of spaghetti intelligently designed all life with the deft touch of its "noodly appendage." Adherents call themselves Pastafarians. They deluged Polk school board members with e-mail demanding equal time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism's version of intelligent design.
2008-01-08 17:53 < bishonen> would somebody kick that flooding cat?
2008-01-08 17:53 < bishonen> op?
2008-01-08 17:53 < bumm13> =^o.o^=
2008-01-08 17:54 < bishonen> bumm13: nice bicycle!
2008-01-08 17:54 < Suva> Ceiling_Cat: A related article: http://tinyurl.com/37ws8e#wikimedia-internal-memo-leaked
2008-01-08 17:54 < bumm13> :x
2008-01-08 17:54 < bumm13> bishonen: you mean Ceiling_Raul?
2008-01-08 17:54 < bishonen> bumm13: I do indeed
2008-01-08 17:54 < bishonen> kick the FA czar.
2008-01-08 17:55 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-08 17:55 < Formentar> Suva: Thank goodness for flashblock. :-D
2008-01-08 17:56 < bishonen> bumm13: you thought i didn't know who Ceiling_Cat ws? let me assure you I do. Intimately!
2008-01-08 17:56 < bishonen> was
2008-01-08 17:56 < bumm13> moof
2008-01-08 17:56 < The359> COLOMBO, Sri Lanka - A quick-thinking Boy Scout foiled an assassination attempt on the president of the Maldives on Tuesday, grabbing an attacker's knife as the man leapt from a crowd and lunged at the leader, an official said.
2008-01-08 17:56 < bumm13> I posted that earlier in here
2008-01-08 17:56 < The359> mine's better
2008-01-08 17:56 < bumm13> heh, "better"
2008-01-08 17:56 < cimon> bishonen: I would suggest draining flooding cats would be more positive...
2008-01-08 17:57 < Suva> Do wikipedians really have sex life?
2008-01-08 17:57 < The359> I did for a while
2008-01-08 17:57 < bishonen> bumm13: any version with "foiled" in it is the best.
2008-01-08 17:57 < The359> but not at the moment
2008-01-08 17:57 < Suva> I don't think it's possible
2008-01-08 17:57 < bishonen> cimon, the land of a thousand lakes doesn't rate an opinion on drainage.
2008-01-08 17:57 < The359> I never knew artists to tick me off. Until now.
2008-01-08 17:58 < cimon> to paraphrase Grace Hopper in an egregious manner: it is always easier to divert the flood, than it is to stem it.
2008-01-08 17:58 * Ceiling_Cat continues flooding
2008-01-08 17:59 < bishonen> cimon, and there's no exemption for "egregious", as yoou surely know.
2008-01-08 17:59 < bishonen> the first person to say "egregious" loses. Bishonen's Law.
2008-01-08 18:00 * kibble huggles Ceiling_Cat and bishonen
2008-01-08 18:00 < bishonen> ouch!
2008-01-08 18:00 < bishonen> hi kibble
2008-01-08 18:00 < kibble> :-)
2008-01-08 18:01 < cimon> bishonen: I think you are very very misinformed if you think finland has not the greatest expertise in unorthodox plumbing in the world, including drainage,and building on land that can never be drained, but is still in a state that is most dubious...
2008-01-08 18:01 < cimon> bishonen: Cairo, Boston, Helsinki and Venice, and very few other places...
2008-01-08 18:03 < cimon> bishonen: : I am currently situated on a 18 story (if you count the basement levels) building built on open sea filled over with sludge,and made buildable by the sheerest feats of engineering and hubris, that was ever expended to build such a short building.
2008-01-08 18:04 < gwern> fundraiser results are out
2008-01-08 18:04 * gwern wonders who the 500k donor was
2008-01-08 18:04 < bishonen> Cimon, Stockholm is as watery as any of them, but perhaps oddly, we prefer to keep land and water separate.
2008-01-08 18:05 < gwern> I would guess branson or wales, but that's just a guess
2008-01-08 18:05 < bishonen> London is open sea filled with sludge too.
2008-01-08 18:05 * Cyrius puts $0.01 on Dick Cheney at a trillion to one.
2008-01-08 18:05 < Cyrius> can't hurt!
2008-01-08 18:05 < cimon> bishonen: right, the reasons why people decided to reclaim sea, when there was land to be had every which way, is quite curious...
2008-01-08 18:06 < bishonen> cimon, and year by year, more and more of the Netherlands are below sea level.
2008-01-08 18:06 < Suva> London is expected to sink in the near future
2008-01-08 18:07 < Suva> I wonder what will they do, move away, or raise houses on poles.
2008-01-08 18:07 < bishonen> suva, i saw a documentary about the building of the London Underground, through this sludge, in the mid 19th centure. i was actually rivetted.
2008-01-08 18:07 < bishonen> cetury
2008-01-08 18:07 < bishonen> try again
2008-01-08 18:07 < Suva> Yeah
2008-01-08 18:07 < bishonen> century
2008-01-08 18:09 < Suva> Some parts of tallin are expected to sink, but the place I am living is amongst last of them :)
2008-01-08 18:09 < bumm13> Seattle has an old 19th century-era amusement park that's now underwater
2008-01-08 18:09 < bumm13> well, early 20th century :P
2008-01-08 18:10 < Cyrius> new orleans was built sunk
2008-01-08 18:10 < bumm13> (1907-1913, it seems)
2008-01-08 18:10 < bumm13> http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=1390
2008-01-08 18:11 < bishonen> Suva, oh, good, that must be comforting. "Look, my mountain summit is still stickiing up!"
2008-01-08 18:11 < Suva> And the flooding comes quite suddenly, something people are not counting with... There is some critical point where the melting of the ice basically produces fast kind of chain reaction
2008-01-08 18:11 < Suva> bishonen: :P
2008-01-08 18:13 < Suva> bishonen: I live in city part quite higher from sea level. Largest part of tallinn city actually.
2008-01-08 18:13 < Suva> And probably the cheapest aswell :)
2008-01-08 18:13 < Suva> Something for the submidclass
2008-01-08 18:14 < Suva> Richest and the poorest people are going to sink first
2008-01-08 18:14 < The359> roffles
2008-01-08 18:14 * Ceiling_Cat huggles The359
2008-01-08 18:14 < The359> My one sister is in her room singing
2008-01-08 18:14 < The359> it was bad
2008-01-08 18:14 < bishonen> Suva, and when *that* part topples into the sea.. that's when the critical moment comes, and the whole shooting-match gets 20 metres higher!
2008-01-08 18:15 < The359> and just as I was thinking that
2008-01-08 18:15 < Suva> Middle class second, and the sub-mid or sup-poor class last :P
2008-01-08 18:15 < The359> my other sister opened her door, told her to stop signing, that it was annoying
2008-01-08 18:15 < The359> I roffled
2008-01-08 18:16 * Ceiling_Cat wants [[Kenneth Pinyan]] up to FA status
2008-01-08 18:16 < The359> {{justdoit}}
2008-01-08 18:16 < Suva> Or pay someone some money to do it
2008-01-08 18:17 < Ceiling_Cat> look at the article ;)
2008-01-08 18:17 < Ceiling_Cat> it would be the most-read FA ever
2008-01-08 18:17 < Ceiling_Cat> Ever.
2008-01-08 18:18 < bishonen> porn star?
2008-01-08 18:18 < Ceiling_Cat> Um, sort of
2008-01-08 18:18 < Ceiling_Cat> read the article :P
2008-01-08 18:18 < The359> LOL
2008-01-08 18:18 < The359> Mr Hands
2008-01-08 18:18 < The359> I knew I knew the name from somewhere
2008-01-08 18:20 < The359> LOL, I love the talk page, Ceiling_Cat
2008-01-08 18:20 < The359> Who performed on whom
2008-01-08 18:20 < The359> The horse fucked him in the ass. --SPUI (T - C) 05:47, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
2008-01-08 18:20 < The359> No better response than that
2008-01-08 18:23 < geniice> eh why do so many failed tank designs get described as mobile pillboxes?
2008-01-08 18:26 < Rinn> I'm going to be disappointed after election day when all the Ron Paul trolls disappear.
2008-01-08 18:26 < Random832> Rinn: you don't think they'll move on to Ron Paul 2012?
2008-01-08 18:26 < Random832> or 2016 if god forbid a republican wins this year
2008-01-08 18:27 < Rinn> That's right! Hope for the future!
2008-01-08 18:27 < Random832> [nah, wouldn't RP just run as libertarian in that case]
2008-01-08 18:27 < Doc_glasgow> Jimbo on wikipedia in a BBC interview: "It is very similar to, well as odd as the analogy might be, this idea of a public restroom, it really is that you have no idea who just cleaned the toilet"
2008-01-08 18:28 < Random832> does Jimbo _try_ to sound retarded?
2008-01-08 18:28 < Rinn> I don't get it.
2008-01-08 18:28 < Rinn> Wikipedia is a public toilet?
2008-01-08 18:28 < Aqwis> wikia search probably
2008-01-08 18:28 < Aqwis> oh nevermind
2008-01-08 18:29 < Aqwis> learn to read, Aqwis =/
2008-01-08 18:29 < geniice> Rinn sadly his old newsletter is protected by copyright so we can't put it on wikisource
2008-01-08 18:30 < cimon> Random832: Jimbo has a slightly reedy voice, but not one I would characterise as retarded.
2008-01-08 18:31 < cimon> Perhaps in limbo between puberty and adulthood.
2008-01-08 18:31 < geniice> no that's the wikipedia editors
2008-01-08 18:31 < Rinn> The editors are public toilets?
2008-01-08 18:32 < cimon> Jimbo's voice never quite broke.
2008-01-08 18:32 < Random832> cimon: I actually meant his words, not his voice
2008-01-08 18:32 < Random832> though I did notice that when I took the time to track down his Colbert interview
2008-01-08 18:32 < geniice> Rinn no between pubity and adulthood
2008-01-08 18:34 < cimon> Random832: nearly everyońe who isn't talking out of a script sounds silly...
2008-01-08 18:34 < Random832> eh
2008-01-08 18:34 < IceKarma> at least, people who don't make a living at it
2008-01-08 18:34 < cimon> Random832: Either that, or you have practised very hard to not take any chance in the direction of saying anything meaningful.
2008-01-08 18:36 < Lubaf> Well, I feel like a Shark Sandwich.
2008-01-08 18:36 < cimon> Frankly I would prefer to sound retarded, and try to make significant statements every time. Even if it sounds silly many times.
2008-01-08 18:39 * TheWeasel hates the word "retarded"
2008-01-08 18:40 < cimon> TheWeasel: I don't.
2008-01-08 18:40 < The359> It's retarded
2008-01-08 18:40 < bumm13> it's not a pleasant word, no
2008-01-08 18:40 * bumm13 slaps The359 around a bit with an IQ test
2008-01-08 18:40 < TheWeasel> eh, guess happens growing up with mentally disabled people
2008-01-08 18:41 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-01-08 18:41 < cimon> bumm13: no it isn't a bad word, unless you regard people held back by nature lesser people.
2008-01-08 18:41 < bumm13> it has negative connotations
2008-01-08 18:41 < TheWeasel> but it's politically incorrect, so it's funny
2008-01-08 18:41 < TheWeasel> (say libertarians)
2008-01-08 18:41 < bumm13> libertarians tend to be "retarded" ;p
2008-01-08 18:41 < cimon> bumm13: I was in an "integrated" daycare center...
2008-01-08 18:42 < bumm13> cimon: interesting term
2008-01-08 18:42 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: We're doing the final vote for the Pick Your Own Top Model! contest
2008-01-08 18:42 < TheWeasel> it's "arrested development", not just "retarded development" :-)
2008-01-08 18:42 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: http://wikinewsreports.blogspot.com/2008/01/final-voting-in-pick-your-own-top-model.html
2008-01-08 18:42 < TheWeasel> oh, what are the choices
2008-01-08 18:42 < cimon> bumm13 not racially integrated, but with developemental varieties accross a range...
2008-01-08 18:42 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: You can read about them
2008-01-08 18:43 < TheWeasel> thanks
2008-01-08 18:44 < cimon> bumm13: I don't think being disadvantaged reflects negatively on any person. I would say the contrary. Those are challenges.
2008-01-08 18:45 * NotAYert bumm13.
2008-01-08 18:45 < TheWeasel> you should have provided links to pics
2008-01-08 18:45 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Well, the people who would be voting would know who they are
2008-01-08 18:46 < TheWeasel> Neck-n-neck between Elyse and Mollie Sue
2008-01-08 18:47 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I'll add them though
2008-01-08 18:47 < Mike_H> I'll tell you when to refresh
2008-01-08 18:47 < TheWeasel> now a three-way-race
2008-01-08 18:49 < TheWeasel> Why doesn't Larry King ever wear a shirt his size?
2008-01-08 18:49 < TheWeasel> Ew... Lou Dobbs.
2008-01-08 18:50 * TheWeasel looks for something else to watch
2008-01-08 18:51 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: done
2008-01-08 18:51 < Mike_H> you can refresh now
2008-01-08 18:51 < TheWeasel> Powell is a pipe smoker!
2008-01-08 18:52 < NotAYert> :O
2008-01-08 18:52 < NotAYert> Colin powell?
2008-01-08 18:52 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-08 18:52 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I linked all their names to a picture they did on Top Model
2008-01-08 18:53 < Evil_Monkey> awesome - New Zealand government press release - "Youth Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta is today encouraging young people to make the most of summer."
2008-01-08 18:53 < TheWeasel> cool
2008-01-08 18:54 < Evil_Monkey> always nice to be reminded of such things by the government
2008-01-08 18:54 < TheWeasel> Cycle 4 gives me an error 403
2008-01-08 18:55 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Which one?
2008-01-08 18:55 < Mike_H> There were two girls from Cycle 4
2008-01-08 18:55 < TheWeasel> Kahlen
2008-01-08 18:55 < Mike_H> http://216.69.182.87/images/kahlen1.jpg
2008-01-08 18:55 < Mike_H> is that better?
2008-01-08 18:55 < TheWeasel> the last two are by far the most attractive
2008-01-08 18:55 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-08 18:55 < Mike_H> okay
2008-01-08 18:55 < Mike_H> it's the same picture
2008-01-08 18:56 < Mike_H> I'll just swap out the link
2008-01-08 18:56 < TheWeasel> right
2008-01-08 18:57 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Joanie had a problem with her teeth
2008-01-08 18:57 < Mike_H> more specifically, that one of her upper right teeth did not descend all the way
2008-01-08 18:57 < Mike_H> so it made for an awkward-looking smile
2008-01-08 18:57 < TheWeasel> she's gorgeous!
2008-01-08 18:57 < Mike_H> halfway through the competition they had that tooth removed.
2008-01-08 18:58 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: This picture has so helpfully highlighted the problem tooth
2008-01-08 18:58 < Mike_H> http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/joanie_elephant_snaggle.jpg
2008-01-08 18:59 < TheWeasel> hm, yea
2008-01-08 18:59 < TheWeasel> hurts for modelling certainly, she's still cute though
2008-01-08 18:59 < Mike_H> well, they removed it
2008-01-08 19:00 < Mike_H> so there's no problem anymore
2008-01-08 19:01 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-01-08 19:02 * TheWeasel keeps switching through debilitating game shows and sees Lou Dobbs again, screams
2008-01-08 19:03 < DragonFire1024> oh well nevermind :)
2008-01-08 19:04 < DragonFire1024> Ceiling_cat: topic link needs updating
2008-01-08 19:04 < Lubaf> Basement_Cat is watching you fornicate.
2008-01-08 19:05 < The359> Basement cat is watching your ass
2008-01-08 19:09 * Ceiling_Cat has a prediction
2008-01-08 19:09 < Ceiling_Cat> Not only is Obama gonna win big in NH, but he's going to suck away all the independents from John McCain. Without hte support of independents, McCain's presidential run is finished and he'll have to drop out
2008-01-08 19:10 < MUNCHLAX> RON PAUUUUUUUL
2008-01-08 19:11 < lymeca> amen MUNCHLAX
2008-01-08 19:11 * The359 votes for Perot
2008-01-08 19:11 < The359> again
2008-01-08 19:12 * Stormscape votes for his imaginary friends
2008-01-08 19:12 < Stormscape> Because they make more sense than US politics.
2008-01-08 19:12 < danborne> xD I wish I could.
2008-01-08 19:13 < Stormscape> I'm Canadian, I'm whacky!
2008-01-08 19:13 < NotAYert> Ceiling_Cat: HILLARY WILL DOMINATE
2008-01-08 19:13 < Ceiling_Cat> Hillary is finished
2008-01-08 19:13 < NotAYert> She has just begun.
2008-01-08 19:15 < Stormscape> Obama for Presidente.
2008-01-08 19:15 < Leslie_S> sigh
2008-01-08 19:15 < Leslie_S> i am PISSED>
2008-01-08 19:16 < Leslie_S> i went to figure out my tax return....and guess what. unemployment check stubs dont show year to date on them!
2008-01-08 19:16 < NotAYert> Leslie_S: Lol
2008-01-08 19:16 < Leslie_S> i have absolutely no way of knowing how much i made from unemployment.
2008-01-08 19:16 < Leslie_S> wtf.
2008-01-08 19:16 < Leslie_S> so i have to wait for like a month to get the official paperwork for them, which is retarded.
2008-01-08 19:17 < geniice> Ceiling_Cat mccain is however increaseingly looking like the safe option for the republicans with rommy falling behind
2008-01-08 19:17 < Leslie_S> and i cant calculate it easily because i worked almost every week i had unemployment, so it was a different amount every week..
2008-01-08 19:18 < Ceiling_Cat> geniice - "safe" option?
2008-01-08 19:18 < Ceiling_Cat> The republicans are headed for another wipe-out
2008-01-08 19:20 * The359 wants to stab these fucking artists
2008-01-08 19:27 < Idonotexist> this is a terrible, horrible article.
2008-01-08 19:27 < Idonotexist> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Encyclopedia
2008-01-08 19:28 < Idonotexist> It's a laundry list, an example farm, a quote farm, AND an image gallery.
2008-01-08 19:28 < Idonotexist> One thing it's not is an encyclopedia article. (about an encyclopedia, lol)
2008-01-08 19:29 < The359> fucking database lock
2008-01-08 19:29 < Jamesontai> *wavw hi
2008-01-08 19:29 < Jamesontai> *wave
2008-01-08 19:29 < gwern> when your only tool is birth control, every problem looks like something you can safely have sex with
2008-01-08 19:29 < Jamesontai> yeah
2008-01-08 19:29 < Jamesontai> what's with the database lock?
2008-01-08 19:30 < The359> it's the Cabal trying to shut us down
2008-01-08 19:31 < Jamesontai> right...
2008-01-08 19:31 < OverlordQ> iron my shirt?
2008-01-08 19:32 < gwern> do you ever get the feeling that you don't really exist and all the words that come out are just phrases and ideas and words and experiences squirming around inside your skull which you saw previously?
2008-01-08 19:33 < IceKarma> can't say I do
2008-01-08 19:34 < Idonotexist> lol
2008-01-08 19:34 < gwern> it's an odd feeling.
2008-01-08 19:34 < gwern> IceKarma: see, that's exactly what I mean. that's no more original to you than what I just said
2008-01-08 19:35 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - can I quote you on the IRC quotes list?
2008-01-08 19:35 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: go ahead. I gave my permission a long time ago
2008-01-08 19:35 < gwern> 'What do writers do when on strike from their day jobs? They write unnecessarily detailed wikipedia articles, that's what. [reddit.com] (en.wikipedia.org)'
2008-01-08 19:36 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - teehee
2008-01-08 19:36 < Ceiling_Cat> !!!
2008-01-08 19:36 < Ceiling_Cat> http://cgi.ebay.com/SMILE-IF-YOURE-HORNY-T-SHIRT-funny-punk-playa-retro-X_W0QQitemZ120206802460QQihZ002QQcategoryZ15687QQcmdZViewItem
2008-01-08 19:36 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: it links to the indeed impressively detailed [[2007–08 Writers Guild of America strike]]
2008-01-08 19:38 < IceKarma> gwern, I saw a Flash ad on New Year's Day that said "Writer's Strike: Day -307"
2008-01-08 19:39 < theINC> lol, I can't believe the idiots on the internet
2008-01-08 19:39 < theINC> particularly looking at the Computing reference desk
2008-01-08 19:39 < theINC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#I_have_trouble_with_a_Web_site._Please_help.
2008-01-08 19:40 < The359> ok, I pretty much already know the answer to this, but just for clarification
2008-01-08 19:41 < The359> Article on a former steel company
2008-01-08 19:41 < The359> Some editors think that the External Links section should be filled with photo essays of the ruins of one of the company's steel plants
2008-01-08 19:41 < The359> No text on the links, just artsy photos.
2008-01-08 19:41 < The359> Delete?
2008-01-08 19:42 < geniice> leave the best kill the rest
2008-01-08 19:42 < theINC> Could you link it?
2008-01-08 19:42 < The359> [[Bethlehem Steel]]
2008-01-08 19:42 < The359> the links are already removed but there is an ongoing debate on the talk page
2008-01-08 19:42 < The359> That the pictures are educational
2008-01-08 19:43 < The359> Even though none are actually of the company and plant when it was running
2008-01-08 19:44 < theINC> yeah, keep them deleted.
2008-01-08 19:44 < The359> good, that's what I thought
2008-01-08 19:44 < MicMac> #economics we're getting it started for anyone interested
2008-01-08 19:44 < The359> now just convincing the artists that their photo websites aren't encyclopedic
2008-01-08 19:45 < TheWeasel> Much closer than expected
2008-01-08 19:45 < TheWeasel> But Obama will probably get better again, as we had before
2008-01-08 19:46 < TheWeasel> 8% apparently closed earlier
2008-01-08 19:47 < TheWeasel> Ew...still with Lou
2008-01-08 19:48 < TheWeasel> Lou asks whether Wyoming will be the defining state for the Democrats
2008-01-08 19:49 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Haha
2008-01-08 19:49 < Mike_H> Wyoming, the same state that voted Bush in with 70% of the vote?
2008-01-08 19:49 < Mike_H> That's funny.
2008-01-08 19:51 < TheWeasel> I can barely understand Jesse Jackson's accent
2008-01-08 19:54 < TheWeasel> Clinton back on top
2008-01-08 19:54 < TheWeasel> another upset
2008-01-08 19:55 < TheWeasel> maybe it's because polling is bs
2008-01-08 19:55 < Cyrius> Republican side is odd
2008-01-08 19:55 < Cyrius> McCain winning, Huckabee back in the third place pack with Giuliani and Ron Paul
2008-01-08 19:55 < TheWeasel> Giuliani is doing atrociously
2008-01-08 19:55 < TheWeasel> Well, Huckabee isnt an east coast man
2008-01-08 19:59 < TheWeasel> heh, they miscalculated the seats
2008-01-08 19:59 < danborne> No, but Huckabee is the best canadite
2008-01-08 20:00 < TheWeasel> Hard to say
2008-01-08 20:00 < TheWeasel> he's a same-old guy
2008-01-08 20:00 < TheWeasel> he's basically from the Bush template
2008-01-08 20:01 < danborne> Flat taxes and guns are all I care for nowadays. Everyone sucks
2008-01-08 20:02 < TheWeasel> with him you get a whole lot more that is not to everyone's taste
2008-01-08 20:03 < NotAYert> HILLARY IS BEATING OBAMA BY 2%
2008-01-08 20:03 < NotAYert> *3
2008-01-08 20:03 < danborne> Ewww .
2008-01-08 20:04 < NotAYert> HER LEAD IS GROWING
2008-01-08 20:04 < Mike_H> NotAYert: Well, you will be happy to know that Kahlen is beating Elyse in Wikinews' Pick Your Own Top Model! poll by five whole votes.
2008-01-08 20:04 < Mike_H> So there.
2008-01-08 20:05 < TheWeasel> Am I delighted?
2008-01-08 20:05 < TheWeasel> I dunno
2008-01-08 20:05 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Alas, Joanie is a long-shot at this point
2008-01-08 20:05 < bumm13> http://media.html-codes.com/graphics/220.jpg <--- lol
2008-01-08 20:07 < Cyrius> NotAYert: stop yelling or be stopped
2008-01-08 20:07 < NotAYert> ...
2008-01-08 20:08 < TheWeasel> She's a kind of hotter Rudy
2008-01-08 20:10 * ST47 whacks NotAYert
2008-01-08 20:10 * NotAYert wonders why the wacking
2008-01-08 20:11 < NotACow> get a room if you want to wack
2008-01-08 20:11 < NotAYert> :O
2008-01-08 20:12 < ST47> Down to 2%, by the way, leading by about 700 votes with 10% in
2008-01-08 20:12 < NotAYert> She will dominate.
2008-01-08 20:12 < ST47> Ron Paul, by the way, is in fifth place. Hell of a lot of good the spammers are doing.
2008-01-08 20:13 < TheWeasel> Yea, both of his supporters.
2008-01-08 20:13 < NotAYert> ST47: They already called it for mccain
2008-01-08 20:13 < ST47> Yeah, but that's republican, who cares about them.
2008-01-08 20:13 < ST47> ;)
2008-01-08 20:13 < NotAYert> :O
2008-01-08 20:13 < TheWeasel> that was the more interesting race
2008-01-08 20:13 < TheWeasel> Until now
2008-01-08 20:13 < ST47> obama/clinton is more exciting
2008-01-08 20:13 < TheWeasel> Hillary is back
2008-01-08 20:13 < NotAYert> Hillary was never gone :O
2008-01-08 20:14 < TheWeasel> she was for all practical purposes this morning
2008-01-08 20:14 < NotAYert> "Mac is back" people are chanting
2008-01-08 20:14 < TheWeasel> the polls looked very grim indeed
2008-01-08 20:14 < geniice> and edwards?
2008-01-08 20:14 < TheWeasel> and NH is the kind of state she must win
2008-01-08 20:14 < NotAYert> geniice: CNN projects 3rd
2008-01-08 20:14 < ST47> Edwards is utter fail
2008-01-08 20:15 < ST47> 17% compared to 36% and 38%
2008-01-08 20:15 < TheWeasel> well, it's not an Edwards state
2008-01-08 20:15 < NotAYert> South Carolina is a edwards state.
2008-01-08 20:15 < TheWeasel> No steelworkers, no Southerners
2008-01-08 20:15 < amidaniel> Anyone wanna place bets on McCain vs. Romney in NH?
2008-01-08 20:15 < NotAYert> amidaniel: McCain already won.
2008-01-08 20:16 * ST47 bets for mccain
2008-01-08 20:16 < ST47> The 9-point lead makes it less fun.
2008-01-08 20:16 < TheWeasel> St47: Quotes are 0:1
2008-01-08 20:16 < amidaniel> NotAYert: Hrm? Says who?
2008-01-08 20:16 < ST47> CNN
2008-01-08 20:16 < TheWeasel> CNN
2008-01-08 20:16 < NotAYert> amidaniel: CNN, MSNBC ect
2008-01-08 20:17 < ST47> (and everyone else, but I'm watching CNN)
2008-01-08 20:17 < TheWeasel> Wolf Blitzer said it, I believe it, that settles it.
2008-01-08 20:17 < NotAYert> Hillarys lead is growing
2008-01-08 20:17 < ST47> http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NH
2008-01-08 20:17 < ST47> No she isn't, it's still only 800 votes
2008-01-08 20:17 < TheWeasel> the Mittens have hired a n acoustic guitar player
2008-01-08 20:17 < TheWeasel> brave chap
2008-01-08 20:18 < TheWeasel> Hillary's lead is in fact shrinking
2008-01-08 20:18 < TheWeasel> afaics
2008-01-08 20:18 < ST47> Unless you have faster info than I do, which I could believe
2008-01-08 20:18 < NotAYert> it went from 700 lead to 900
2008-01-08 20:18 < amidaniel> Oh, wow .. they do already have McCain projected as winner
2008-01-08 20:18 * TheWeasel predicts an Obama win
2008-01-08 20:18 < NotAYert> CLINTON has 40
2008-01-08 20:18 < NotAYert> now
2008-01-08 20:18 < TheWeasel> oh, that thing is ahead of me
2008-01-08 20:18 < TheWeasel> I have her with 38
2008-01-08 20:19 < TheWeasel> okay, my bad
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> she has over 1000 now
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> TheWeasel: :O
2008-01-08 20:19 < amidaniel> Only 12% reporting though .. they don't know crap :P
2008-01-08 20:19 < ST47> NotAYert: what's your source?
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> Clinton
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert>
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> 14,462
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert>
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> 40%
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert>
2008-01-08 20:19 < ST47> don't do that
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> 0
2008-01-08 20:19 < TheWeasel> NYT counts 38% at 12% reporting
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> ST47: your link
2008-01-08 20:19 < NotAYert> ST47: I thought it was in 1 line
2008-01-08 20:19 < ST47> ah, there we go
2008-01-08 20:20 < ST47> it took a while to update
2008-01-08 20:20 < NotAYert> shes 2000 and gaining now
2008-01-08 20:20 < NotAYert> 16,000 > 14,000
2008-01-08 20:20 < ST47> 1800
2008-01-08 20:20 < ST47> ;)
2008-01-08 20:20 < geniice> 4% lead hmm
2008-01-08 20:20 < NotAYert> :O
2008-01-08 20:20 < TheWeasel> Ew, Ralph Reed
2008-01-08 20:21 < TheWeasel> one of the absolute worst people ever in American politics
2008-01-08 20:21 < ST47> that would be 'an obama'
2008-01-08 20:22 < Yert> ST47: Hillary's little crying thing made her more likable.
2008-01-08 20:23 * ST47 shrugs
2008-01-08 20:23 < ST47> That's one of the reasons I would never vote for her.
2008-01-08 20:23 < ST47> If I was allowed to do that sort of thing.
2008-01-08 20:23 < ST47> She cheated anyway
2008-01-08 20:23 < ST47> http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#val=D
2008-01-08 20:24 < ST47> got a bunch of superdelegates, a completely idiotic idea
2008-01-08 20:24 < Yert> 174 > 69
2008-01-08 20:24 < TheWeasel> I saw that clip
2008-01-08 20:24 < TheWeasel> it looked like she was really impossibly tired
2008-01-08 20:24 < TheWeasel> I don't think it was planned
2008-01-08 20:25 < Yert> obama is lowering
2008-01-08 20:25 < TheWeasel> I think some preconceptions about her mingle into some people's judgments here
2008-01-08 20:25 < Yert> 35% now
2008-01-08 20:26 < ST47> STill less than 15% reporting
2008-01-08 20:27 < Yert> ST47: Her lead is growing, he is falling behind.
2008-01-08 20:27 < geniice> 36%
2008-01-08 20:27 < geniice> 35%
2008-01-08 20:27 < LuciferTiger> swings happen
2008-01-08 20:27 < geniice> 36%
2008-01-08 20:27 < TheWeasel> Yea. Looks very good for her now
2008-01-08 20:28 < TheWeasel> the south seems to like her more than the polls showed
2008-01-08 20:28 < LuciferTiger> what exactly would be the scenario if clinton wins this one
2008-01-08 20:28 < TheWeasel> Keeps her in the game, basically
2008-01-08 20:28 < TheWeasel> many states will still be naturally on Obama's side
2008-01-08 20:28 < geniice> depends which way the edwards supporters jump
2008-01-08 20:29 < LuciferTiger> and with obama coming in second, who would have the upper hand?
2008-01-08 20:29 < Yert> Edwards was never in.
2008-01-08 20:29 < ST47> She's only down one pledged delegate
2008-01-08 20:29 < amidaniel> geniice: They'll jump to Obama, clearly
2008-01-08 20:29 < geniice> maybe maybe no
2008-01-08 20:29 * TheWeasel is not sure that is a true comeback. It's probably still Obama's to lose.
2008-01-08 20:29 < Yert> Or maybe they will go to richardson or someone
2008-01-08 20:29 < geniice> edwards looked like the safer white male candidate
2008-01-08 20:29 < ST47> If it's a major difference, then clinton will lead
2008-01-08 20:29 < amidaniel> Of course he has no plans to withdraw at this point, and with a 3rd place in NH it would be pretty silly to drop out at this point
2008-01-08 20:30 < Yert> I hate ROMNEY
2008-01-08 20:30 < ST47> I hate caps
2008-01-08 20:30 < MUNCHLAX> RON PAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL
2008-01-08 20:30 < amidaniel> Yert: Richardson's probably going to be pulling out soon
2008-01-08 20:30 < TheWeasel> NH wasn't a state Edwards was working to win.
2008-01-08 20:30 < TheWeasel> IA was
2008-01-08 20:30 < Yert> ron paul is a werido
2008-01-08 20:30 < amidaniel> ST47: ?
2008-01-08 20:30 < ST47> He is.
2008-01-08 20:30 < geniice> still stivk at 36%
2008-01-08 20:30 < TheWeasel> I think he'd have had to win Iowa
2008-01-08 20:31 < geniice> Yert raceist werido
2008-01-08 20:31 < Yert> geniice: He is an old white guy. How is that racist?
2008-01-08 20:31 < ggreer> Yert: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html
2008-01-08 20:31 < ggreer> he's also kind of a religious nut
2008-01-08 20:31 < geniice> heh see his early 90s newsletters
2008-01-08 20:32 * Yert is waiting for hillary to jump up to 41
2008-01-08 20:32 < ggreer> the only way the democrats can lose the election is if hillary is the candidate
2008-01-08 20:32 < Yert> :O
2008-01-08 20:33 < MUNCHLAX> I would like to take this opportunity to say that I do not and never have supported Ron Paul. Good day.
2008-01-08 20:33 * ST47 concurs with ggreer
2008-01-08 20:33 < amidaniel> ggreer: You're probably right :)
2008-01-08 20:33 < ggreer> I would abstain instead of voting for hillary
2008-01-08 20:33 * TheWeasel thinks Hillary is more likely to win than Obama
2008-01-08 20:33 < Yert> Obama sucks.
2008-01-08 20:33 * ST47 prefers obama, but only slightly
2008-01-08 20:33 < geniice> 35/40
2008-01-08 20:33 < geniice> 36/40 rather
2008-01-08 20:33 < ggreer> I think obama truly believes that he can change the two-party system
2008-01-08 20:33 < Yert> shes winning in manchester
2008-01-08 20:33 < LuciferTiger> less than guiliani, mccain, romney
2008-01-08 20:33 < ST47> I still see 26/40
2008-01-08 20:33 < ggreer> and if he pulls it off it will be amazing
2008-01-08 20:33 < ST47> 36
2008-01-08 20:34 < TheWeasel> But then, the only candidate the Republicans crap their pants over is Edwards.
2008-01-08 20:34 < VoxRationis> ahem, i thought this was a WP discussion IRC, not a politics forum. dont we have #wikipedia-social for this?
2008-01-08 20:34 < Yert> ...
2008-01-08 20:34 < Yert> The ops are participating in said discussion
2008-01-08 20:34 < TheWeasel> this channel is off-topic until someone asks a question
2008-01-08 20:34 < ST47> The ops are indeed
2008-01-08 20:34 * theINC is Australian, but will go for anyone who's not huckabee
2008-01-08 20:34 < theINC> :)
2008-01-08 20:34 < ggreer> heh
2008-01-08 20:35 < ggreer> theINC: how is .au these days?
2008-01-08 20:35 < theINC> i don't like huckabee because he's a minister
2008-01-08 20:35 < ST47> There's an election going on, it's kind of a big deal here
2008-01-08 20:35 < Yert> Hukabee is quite odd.
2008-01-08 20:35 < ggreer> I like how US politics are world politics
2008-01-08 20:35 < ST47> ;)
2008-01-08 20:35 < theINC> ggreer: not too bad. we got a new prime minister recently
2008-01-08 20:35 < theINC> and not much has happened
2008-01-08 20:35 < Yert> The US dominates all :O
2008-01-08 20:35 < theINC> he wants to censor the internets though :(
2008-01-08 20:35 < ggreer> :/
2008-01-08 20:35 < Yert> Commie?
2008-01-08 20:35 < ST47> It's just so late at night that the brits are asleep
2008-01-08 20:35 < theINC> to a certain extent
2008-01-08 20:35 < theINC> he speaks mandarin
2008-01-08 20:36 < ST47> and not here to whine
2008-01-08 20:36 < TheWeasel> I didn't like how US politics were world politics in the last six-ish years.
2008-01-08 20:36 < theINC> so people make a lot of comments about us turning into china
2008-01-08 20:36 < ST47> That's just bush
2008-01-08 20:37 < Yert> Bush....
2008-01-08 20:37 < ggreer> TheWeasel: I think US politics have been world politics since 1942
2008-01-08 20:37 < theINC> i mean, pretty much every other candidate is not overly keen on the Iraq war
2008-01-08 20:37 < TheWeasel> yea, but mostly for the good
2008-01-08 20:37 < ggreer> yeah
2008-01-08 20:37 < theINC> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22989008-662,00.html
2008-01-08 20:37 < theINC> basically, they want to block all child pron (which is reasonable), and "violent sites"
2008-01-08 20:37 < theINC> how do they define violent?
2008-01-08 20:38 < ggreer> after 9/11 it's been a game of risk
2008-01-08 20:38 < theINC> they're doing the whole protect-the-kiddies thing
2008-01-08 20:38 < theINC> crazy conservative
2008-01-08 20:38 < ggreer> as in the board game, where you invade countries
2008-01-08 20:38 < theINC> hehe
2008-01-08 20:38 < Leslie_S> theINC, tomorrow it will be sites about "alternative sexuality"
2008-01-08 20:38 < Yert> CNN is like anit-hillary
2008-01-08 20:38 < ggreer> slippery slope argument in this channel
2008-01-08 20:38 < theINC> Leslie_S: and then soon it will be sites disagreeing with the political view
2008-01-08 20:38 < geniice> Leslie_S doubtful
2008-01-08 20:38 < TheWeasel> and then hard-hitting, mean satire sites.
2008-01-08 20:38 < Yert> COMMIE
2008-01-08 20:38 < theINC> and so on until australia = china
2008-01-08 20:38 < ST47> O.o
2008-01-08 20:38 < TheWeasel> and then less mean
2008-01-08 20:38 < ST47> Caps = bad!
2008-01-08 20:38 < geniice> TheWeasel no that's newzealand
2008-01-08 20:39 < TheWeasel> then sites dealing with smoking
2008-01-08 20:39 < Leslie_S> child porn shouldnt be blocked.
2008-01-08 20:39 * ST47 whacks Yert as well
2008-01-08 20:39 < theINC> The Chaser will soon be censored
2008-01-08 20:39 < Leslie_S> it should be taken care of in a way tat shuts the site down.
2008-01-08 20:39 < Yert> Leslie_S: :LOL
2008-01-08 20:39 < theINC> The Chaser is a political satire group btw
2008-01-08 20:39 < ST47> Indeed.
2008-01-08 20:39 < Leslie_S> and if thats not possible, then ban the people looking at it from whatever computer theyrea t
2008-01-08 20:39 < theINC> actually, the thing is that the filter is OPT OUT!
2008-01-08 20:39 < TheWeasel> First sites dealing with drug use in a neutral, non-against sense
2008-01-08 20:39 < Leslie_S> theINC, what the hell
2008-01-08 20:39 < Leslie_S> theINC, whos doing this anyway?
2008-01-08 20:39 < TheWeasel> then sites with smoking
2008-01-08 20:40 < theINC> Leslie_S: the new government in aus
2008-01-08 20:40 < theINC> the new minister for communications
2008-01-08 20:40 < Leslie_S> omg
2008-01-08 20:40 < theINC> they're trying to protect the childrenz
2008-01-08 20:40 < Yert> The new soviet union?
2008-01-08 20:40 < Leslie_S> theINC, for like, your internet at home?
2008-01-08 20:40 < theINC> but even when you opt out, child pron (reasonable) and violence sites (define violent) are sitll blocked
2008-01-08 20:40 < theINC> but you get access to X-rated pron
2008-01-08 20:40 < theINC> and certain violence
2008-01-08 20:40 < Yert> Lol
2008-01-08 20:41 < theINC> Leslie_S: it's done at ISP level
2008-01-08 20:41 < Leslie_S> theINC, i still think that child porn shouldnt be blocked
2008-01-08 20:41 < theINC> and they're going to legislate it as mandatory
2008-01-08 20:41 < ST47> Yay for Tor
2008-01-08 20:41 < Leslie_S> theINC, it shouldnt *BE THERE*.
2008-01-08 20:41 < theINC> hehe true
2008-01-08 20:41 < ST47> Or are they going to try to ban it?
2008-01-08 20:41 < ST47> ;)
2008-01-08 20:41 < theINC> it's reasonable for kiddie pron to be blocked, but why do they get police on to sites like Demonoid and the Pirate Bay
2008-01-08 20:41 < theINC> and not even care about kiddie pron which is 10 times worse
2008-01-08 20:41 < Yert> nothing has changed in a while
2008-01-08 20:42 < theINC> it's not that bad to take away $30 from a big evil corporation because I didn't buy the DVD
2008-01-08 20:42 < Leslie_S> this is the most retarded thing i have heard of in a long time.
2008-01-08 20:42 < theINC> tell me about it
2008-01-08 20:42 < Yert> Leslie_S: Do you want to view child porn or something?
2008-01-08 20:42 < theINC> but I really doubt it will get through
2008-01-08 20:42 < Leslie_S> Yert, no. like i siad, child porn should be dealt with by shutting the sites down.
2008-01-08 20:42 < ST47> Darned aussies
2008-01-08 20:42 < theINC> it's just a bill in parliament
2008-01-08 20:42 < Leslie_S> Yert, anyway, im against this sort of censorship because it always hits things that it doesnt intend to.
2008-01-08 20:43 < Yert> Leslie_S: Yes. Its quite wrong to censor the internet.
2008-01-08 20:43 < Leslie_S> Yert, like some school porn filters block sites about naked mole rats.
2008-01-08 20:43 < Yert> Leslie_S: My school blocks everything.
2008-01-08 20:43 < theINC> the guy is like a conservative maniac
2008-01-08 20:43 * TheWeasel is strongly in favor of blocking uncontroversially illegal content, so people don't access it accidentally and then have some explaining to do
2008-01-08 20:43 < Yert> Accidentally view child porn?
2008-01-08 20:43 < Leslie_S> Yert, when i was in grade school, yahoo got blocked once. and this was before i knew about google.
2008-01-08 20:43 < Leslie_S> how can you accidently view child porn
2008-01-08 20:44 < theINC> I think if parents don't want their kids to see pron, it should be their responsibility to either supervise their internet usage directly or to install NetNanny. The government are not my parents.
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> ive accidently viewed porn, but never child porn.
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> oh wait, actually i did.
2008-01-08 20:44 < Yert> Leslie_S: :O
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> i came across some child porn on a p2p network once.
2008-01-08 20:44 < amidaniel> Leslie_S: If you can accidentally view porn, you can accidentally view child porn :)
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> well, mulitple times.
2008-01-08 20:44 < TheWeasel> Yert: Say someone wants to hurt you and gets you to click a link
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> but...ive never accidently viewed child porn on the web.
2008-01-08 20:44 < Yert> Pedophile :O
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> Yert, i didnt like it.
2008-01-08 20:44 < TheWeasel> not sure that happens
2008-01-08 20:44 < Leslie_S> Yert, and i think i only actually viewed once or twice.
2008-01-08 20:44 < geniice> Leslie_S eh someone posted a link to this channel once.
2008-01-08 20:44 < Yert> Leslie_S: :O
2008-01-08 20:44 < theINC> what about that guy who took photos of himself molesting boys, and used a twirl filter on his face
2008-01-08 20:45 < amidaniel> Actually, come to think of it, I've viewed a lot of child porn on Wikipedia -- does that make me a criminal?
2008-01-08 20:45 < theINC> and then interpol untwirled it and he got pooned
2008-01-08 20:45 < Leslie_S> theINC, wtf
2008-01-08 20:45 < Yert> :O :O :O