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2008-01-07 04:36 < x_Rankun_X> bumm13 the answer is none
2008-01-07 04:36 < bumm13> ([cot] not being in mathematical parentheses/brackets)
2008-01-07 04:37 < x_Rankun_X> if you want me to prove it for you bumm i will
2008-01-07 04:37 < Mike_H> You just put it on GA
2008-01-07 04:37 < effeietsanders> yeah, a == 0 works out :P
2008-01-07 04:37 < Mike_H> there are articles there that are a week old that haven't been touched yet
2008-01-07 04:37 < The359> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/George_stack.JPG that is really odd
2008-01-07 04:37 < bumm13> effeietsanders: I made no effort to prove the validity of the formula :-)
2008-01-07 04:38 < The359> looks cheap
2008-01-07 04:38 < x_Rankun_X> copyrighted image
2008-01-07 04:38 < x_Rankun_X> i recognize it
2008-01-07 04:40 * bumm13 imagines "Christian Right Heroes" coins
2008-01-07 04:40 < The359> † — The act specifies that in order for a President to be honored he must have been deceased for no less than two years. (See #The program's end section above.)
2008-01-07 04:40 < bumm13> Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich, Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts, etc. :P
2008-01-07 04:41 < x_Rankun_X> lol
2008-01-07 04:41 < The359> Apparently Grover Cleveland is going to get two coins
2008-01-07 04:41 < x_Rankun_X> guys
2008-01-07 04:41 < x_Rankun_X> guys
2008-01-07 04:41 < x_Rankun_X> right below
2008-01-07 04:41 < x_Rankun_X> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29&oldid=181785597#A_dangerous_trend_on_Wikipedia
2008-01-07 04:41 < bumm13> how silly
2008-01-07 04:41 < x_Rankun_X> the best question ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-01-07 04:42 < bumm13> the U.S. Mint must be really damn bored these days regarding coins in circulation
2008-01-07 04:42 < The359> The United States is honoring the spouses of each of the Presidents honored by the Presidential $1 Coin Act by issuing half-ounce $10 gold coins featuring their images, in the order that they served as First Spouse, beginning in 2007.
2008-01-07 04:42 < bumm13> lololololol
2008-01-07 04:42 < bumm13> "First Spouse", zomg P.C.!
2008-01-07 04:42 < bumm13> :P
2008-01-07 04:43 < x_Rankun_X> whell
2008-01-07 04:43 < The359> To date, all first spouses have been women (often called First Ladies), but the law uses the term "First Spouse" because that could change before the end of the program. (around 2016)
2008-01-07 04:43 < x_Rankun_X> with hillary
2008-01-07 04:43 < bumm13> hinting at anything there? ;p
2008-01-07 04:43 < nazgjunk> could, yes, hypothetically
2008-01-07 04:43 < x_Rankun_X> (points above)
2008-01-07 04:43 < x_Rankun_X> or oprah
2008-01-07 04:43 < effeietsanders> x_Rankun_X: or someone else actually :P
2008-01-07 04:43 < bumm13> hopefully Diebold has nothing to do with that ;p
2008-01-07 04:43 < x_Rankun_X> dont worry
2008-01-07 04:43 < x_Rankun_X> as wikipedia editor
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> s
2008-01-07 04:44 < effeietsanders> i beleive there are millions of women egligible to become a candidate in the US? :P
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> we have direct control over every election
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> if there are enough of us trying
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> we could make anything reality
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> for example
2008-01-07 04:44 < bumm13> and 99.8% of them aren't likely to run as a major-party candidate for President
2008-01-07 04:44 < Rinn> VOTE MORRISON STANLEY
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> if we all were dead set on saying barak obama isnt black
2008-01-07 04:44 < x_Rankun_X> we could end up with edits like
2008-01-07 04:45 < effeietsanders> bumm13: that still leaves 0.2%
2008-01-07 04:45 < bumm13> more like 99.9%, really
2008-01-07 04:45 < nazgjunk> x_Rankun_X, I sense a "WE ARE LEGION" here
2008-01-07 04:45 < x_Rankun_X> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29&oldid=181785597#A_dangerous_trend_on_Wikipedia
2008-01-07 04:45 < x_Rankun_X> right below this article
2008-01-07 04:46 < effeietsanders> so 303.000 candidates :)
2008-01-07 04:46 < bumm13> if the general election is close, will "Diebold" select a potential Hillary Clinton candidacy to win? :P
2008-01-07 04:46 * bumm13 tries 99.97%
2008-01-07 04:46 < bumm13> :P
2008-01-07 04:46 < x_Rankun_X> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&action=edit§ion=37
2008-01-07 04:46 < x_Rankun_X> lol
2008-01-07 04:47 < effeietsanders> 45.450 women :)
2008-01-07 04:47 < x_Rankun_X> arguments like these account for half the topics on wiki
2008-01-07 04:47 < bumm13> ok, 99.9% then
2008-01-07 04:47 < bumm13> *99.99%
2008-01-07 04:47 < effeietsanders> that's even more :P
2008-01-07 04:47 < brown_cat> what is that really poluted site in the us?
2008-01-07 04:47 < Rinn> What's a .450th of a woman?
2008-01-07 04:47 < brown_cat> the most poluted place in the country
2008-01-07 04:47 < effeietsanders> brown_cat: whitehouse.gov?
2008-01-07 04:47 < brown_cat> xD hahahaha
2008-01-07 04:47 < brown_cat> I didn't say corrupt
2008-01-07 04:47 < brown_cat> it was used for nuclear studd
2008-01-07 04:47 < effeietsanders> you said polluted
2008-01-07 04:47 < brown_cat> *stuff
2008-01-07 04:48 < nazgjunk> a nucular dump in the US?
2008-01-07 04:48 < effeietsanders> and what is worse pollution then politicians?
2008-01-07 04:48 < The359> wtf
2008-01-07 04:48 < nazgjunk> that sounds like something the french should try
2008-01-07 04:48 < bumm13> roughly 4/9
2008-01-07 04:48 < brown_cat> no, they used it for testing
2008-01-07 04:48 < brown_cat> and stuff
2008-01-07 04:48 < nazgjunk> kay
2008-01-07 04:48 < The359> Alabama's state quarter is of Helen Keller
2008-01-07 04:48 < nazgjunk> that most definitely the french should try
2008-01-07 04:48 < Rinn> When exactly did "nucular" get popular?
2008-01-07 04:48 < The359> was there nothing else from Alabama they could use?
2008-01-07 04:48 < effeietsanders> Rinn: with NMR
2008-01-07 04:49 < nazgjunk> It got popular?
2008-01-07 04:49 < nazgjunk> Tsk, /me moves on
2008-01-07 04:49 < effeietsanders> well, at least among chemists :P
2008-01-07 04:49 < bumm13> 5/11
2008-01-07 04:49 < bumm13> (but not quite that)
2008-01-07 04:51 < bumm13> hiya Mark_Ryan
2008-01-07 04:52 * brown_cat cuddles Mark_Ryan
2008-01-07 04:52 < Mark_Ryan> hi
2008-01-07 04:52 < Mark_Ryan> anyone around who's good at linguistics? I need to identify two characters on the Wikipedia logo
2008-01-07 04:53 < bumm13> try me :-)
2008-01-07 04:53 < Rinn> This is #wikipedia. If you hang around long enough, you'll get someone who's good at anything.
2008-01-07 04:53 < x_Rankun_X> i will mark
2008-01-07 04:53 < x_Rankun_X> however
2008-01-07 04:53 < x_Rankun_X> you would have to review seton hall university for ga
2008-01-07 04:53 < x_Rankun_X> if i do
2008-01-07 04:53 < Rinn> You must swim through Rankun's five loops first
2008-01-07 04:53 < Rinn> !
2008-01-07 04:54 < Mark_Ryan> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png -- here's the big version of the logo
2008-01-07 04:54 < bumm13> fruit loops?
2008-01-07 04:54 < x_Rankun_X> k
2008-01-07 04:54 < x_Rankun_X> which ones you need
2008-01-07 04:54 < Mark_Ryan> I need to find out what the third one down on the far left is (to the left of the omega) and the one two below that
2008-01-07 04:54 < pengo> it's pretty crap
2008-01-07 04:55 < Mark_Ryan> like, I don't even know what script they are.
2008-01-07 04:55 < bumm13> the "one below that" looks like it's from [[Devanagari]] script
2008-01-07 04:55 < x_Rankun_X> seek someone who knows asian languages for that one
2008-01-07 04:55 < amidaniel> Mark_Ryan: Two of them are wrong
2008-01-07 04:55 < pengo> Mark_Ryan: there's a page somewhere that tells you about them all
2008-01-07 04:55 < Mark_Ryan> amidaniel, I know, I've corrected them in what I'm doing
2008-01-07 04:55 < amidaniel> Mark_Ryan: There are millions of archived discussions about them, if you'd like to grep the VP about them
2008-01-07 04:55 < amidaniel> Mark_Ryan: Oh :)
2008-01-07 04:55 < Mark_Ryan> amidaniel, I've read all the ones I can find :)
2008-01-07 04:55 < amidaniel> Ah, k :)
2008-01-07 04:55 < Mark_Ryan> actually, three of them were wrong
2008-01-07 04:56 < Mark_Ryan> Japanese, Hindi and Tamil
2008-01-07 04:56 < amidaniel> O rly? Jeeez ...
2008-01-07 04:56 < amidaniel> And wasn't the original design done by a linguist?
2008-01-07 04:56 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TBROuvxPDSY
2008-01-07 04:56 < Mark_Ryan> nohat, yes.
2008-01-07 04:56 < Mike_H> The 2007 National Geography Bee winner was a girl
2008-01-07 04:56 < x_Rankun_X> i wouldnt be surprised if that was korean mark
2008-01-07 04:56 < Mike_H> only the second female winner in like, 19 years
2008-01-07 04:56 < Mark_Ryan> the bottom one, x_Rankun_X?
2008-01-07 04:56 < x_Rankun_X> no
2008-01-07 04:56 < pengo> Mike_H: uh huh...?
2008-01-07 04:56 < x_Rankun_X> the top left
2008-01-07 04:57 < pengo> what's a good brand of pannier?
2008-01-07 04:57 < Mark_Ryan> Korean is the one over on the far right with the circle, a plus underneath it and a vertical line
2008-01-07 04:57 < Rinn> Pan pannier panniest!
2008-01-07 04:57 < Mark_Ryan> sorry, a T underneath it
2008-01-07 04:57 < pengo> thanks rinn......
2008-01-07 04:57 < x_Rankun_X> and possibly aramaic
2008-01-07 04:57 < x_Rankun_X> for the bottom
2008-01-07 04:57 < Mark_Ryan> hm, aramaic
2008-01-07 04:57 < Mark_Ryan> I'll have a look at that
2008-01-07 04:57 < Rinn> I don't know what pannier is.
2008-01-07 04:58 < x_Rankun_X> possibly
2008-01-07 04:58 < x_Rankun_X> i may be wrong
2008-01-07 04:58 < x_Rankun_X> its more about characturism
2008-01-07 04:58 < x_Rankun_X> different cultures have different ways of writing
2008-01-07 04:58 < Rinn> Now I do!
2008-01-07 04:58 < x_Rankun_X> and by examing you can tell
2008-01-07 04:58 < Rinn> Learn something every day in #wikipedia.
2008-01-07 04:58 < x_Rankun_X> let me say that however
2008-01-07 04:59 < x_Rankun_X> you could easily just compare it with the bianary caracter list
2008-01-07 04:59 * IceKarma waits for accursèd
2008-01-07 04:59 < x_Rankun_X> some guy spends his life imputting letters
2008-01-07 04:59 < IceKarma> +Web browser to load
2008-01-07 04:59 < x_Rankun_X> Now review seton hall
2008-01-07 04:59 < x_Rankun_X> or ill eat rinn's babies
2008-01-07 05:00 < x_Rankun_X> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GAN#Education
2008-01-07 05:00 < Rinn> oh god not again
2008-01-07 05:01 < IceKarma> left of the omega looks like the Tibetan script
2008-01-07 05:01 < x_Rankun_X> hes right
2008-01-07 05:02 < x_Rankun_X> there are over 500000 characters in that region
2008-01-07 05:03 < Mark_Ryan> looks like tibetan, thanks IceKarma :)
2008-01-07 05:04 < bumm13> it's Tibetan letter "wa" with an "i" vowel-sign mark over it
2008-01-07 05:04 < bumm13> :x
2008-01-07 05:04 < Mark_Ryan> bumm13, looks like the first bit of "Wikipedia" in Tibetan, heh
2008-01-07 05:05 < bumm13> it could be :)
2008-01-07 05:05 < x_Rankun_X> Mark
2008-01-07 05:05 < x_Rankun_X> theres a resh in there
2008-01-07 05:05 < x_Rankun_X> in hebrew
2008-01-07 05:05 < x_Rankun_X> so
2008-01-07 05:06 < x_Rankun_X> its not a word in english
2008-01-07 05:06 < cast> hey folks...wasn't sure where else to ask, but is an inseam from top of inside of leg where leg meets body to bottom of ankle, like wikipedia says, or is this a vague and not standardised measurement?
2008-01-07 05:09 < The359> are you calling Wikipedia wrong?
2008-01-07 05:09 < Drunken_Idiot> Hello
2008-01-07 05:10 < bumm13> the one "southwest" of the omega is Devanagari script "va" + "i" letters
2008-01-07 05:11 < Rinn> Hello!
2008-01-07 05:11 < Lycurgus> hi, what's the speedy deletion tag commonly called, the acronym?
2008-01-07 05:12 < The359> CSD?
2008-01-07 05:13 < The359> I'm sure it'd be on [[WP:SPEEDY]]
2008-01-07 05:13 < bumm13_> (gah, xchat Win32 won't paste that in here :P )
2008-01-07 05:13 < Lycurgus> yes, that'll do, thanks.
2008-01-07 05:15 < bumm13_> ववव/me sobs
2008-01-07 05:15 < bumm13> :x
2008-01-07 05:15 * bumm13_ test
2008-01-07 05:16 < Drunken_Idiot> Wow
2008-01-07 05:16 < cast> The359: not as such, but take shoe sizes...different from country to country. generally common for clothing measurements, also
2008-01-07 05:16 < Drunken_Idiot> I am crying right now
2008-01-07 05:16 < x_Rankun_X> वववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववववव
2008-01-07 05:16 < bumm13> Mark_Ryan : still here?
2008-01-07 05:17 < x_Rankun_X> ववव}ववव}ववव}ववव}
2008-01-07 05:17 < Rinn> DI: About what?
2008-01-07 05:17 < Drunken_Idiot> Rinn: Composing.
2008-01-07 05:17 < Drunken_Idiot> My movements are done
2008-01-07 05:24 < Drunken_Idiot> Wow its gorgeous
2008-01-07 05:24 < Drunken_Idiot> << crying.. overjoyed
2008-01-07 05:24 < x_Rankun_X> 1. The Internet is the last bastion of true free speech.
2008-01-07 05:24 < x_Rankun_X> 2. Wikipedia embodies free speech at its finest. I think it does a better job at filtering fact from fiction than real life ever could. Seriously, how often can you slap a {{fact}} tag on someone's nonsense? How often can they slap one on you back? How often are they actually verified? Even better, we don't have to worry as much about corporate interests, liberal/conservative bias, and/or campaign contributions. Everyone keeps everyo
2008-01-07 05:24 < x_Rankun_X> 3. I like to learn, and I wish more people did too.
2008-01-07 05:25 < x_Rankun_X> wp
2008-01-07 05:33 < The359> Fuck, he's learning
2008-01-07 05:33 < The359> run
2008-01-07 05:33 < Drunken_Idiot> Hehe.
2008-01-07 05:33 < Drunken_Idiot> I am composing
2008-01-07 05:37 < x_Rankun_X> the359
2008-01-07 05:37 < x_Rankun_X> will you review an aricle for me
2008-01-07 05:37 < x_Rankun_X> == hey could i get your help ==
2008-01-07 05:37 < x_Rankun_X> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GAN#Education Please Review Seton Hall University Here]
2008-01-07 05:37 < x_Rankun_X> thanks ~~~~
2008-01-07 05:39 * Rinn pokes Rankun
2008-01-07 05:39 < x_Rankun_X> ?
2008-01-07 05:40 < Rinn> I don't think asking random people to review it'll work.
2008-01-07 05:40 < x_Rankun_X> how much you wanna bet
2008-01-07 05:40 < x_Rankun_X> loser donates 5$ to wiki
2008-01-07 05:41 < Rinn> I stopped betting when I lost one and had to walk about ten miles home naked.
2008-01-07 05:41 < Warpath> O_o
2008-01-07 05:41 < x_Rankun_X> drunk?
2008-01-07 05:42 < x_Rankun_X> do we have an article on meatspin.com
2008-01-07 05:42 < Rinn> No, it was just entirely implausible that he'd win. And he did.
2008-01-07 05:42 < x_Rankun_X> and if so is there a picture
2008-01-07 05:42 < Rinn> Technically I wasn't naked. I had shoes.
2008-01-07 05:42 < x_Rankun_X> thats my quote of the day
2008-01-07 05:44 < bumm13> haha
2008-01-07 05:44 < Mark_Ryan> bumm13: I'm back now
2008-01-07 05:44 < bumm13> :)
2008-01-07 05:44 < bumm13> I think x_Rankun_X needs to not return here ;p
2008-01-07 05:44 < Mark_Ryan> so, I found the tibetan characters and that's all hunky dory
2008-01-07 05:44 < Rinn> I like him!
2008-01-07 05:44 < Mark_Ryan> i'm still stumped by the one at the very bottom left :)
2008-01-07 05:44 < bumm13> the other character was.....
2008-01-07 05:45 < bumm13> <bumm13> the one "southwest" of the omega is Devanagari script "va" + "i" letters
2008-01-07 05:45 < Mark_Ryan> no, I know that one :) the one below that
2008-01-07 05:45 < The359> Rankum is like a bad mix of Xihix and that guy who asked stupid questions all day from several months ago
2008-01-07 05:45 < Rinn> The latter one sounds interesting.
2008-01-07 05:53 < bumm13> it's Mongolian letter "todo i"
2008-01-07 05:58 < Mark_Ryan> bumm13, wow, indeed it is. but it appears to be on its side. :-\
2008-01-07 05:58 < bumm13> [[Clear script]] long i/"ii"
2008-01-07 05:58 < bumm13> it looks alright to me :)
2008-01-07 05:59 < Mark_Ryan> ah, cos their writing goes vertically
2008-01-07 05:59 < Mark_Ryan> that would explain it :D
2008-01-07 05:59 < bumm13> althought its styling seems a tad "sharp" or "pointed" compared to the examples I've seen
2008-01-07 05:59 < bumm13> Mongolia normally uses Cyrillic letters nowadays
2008-01-07 06:00 < Mark_Ryan> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1800.pdf -- it's at 1845 in here (row 5, column 184)
2008-01-07 06:00 < bumm13> yes
2008-01-07 06:00 < Mark_Ryan> how do you know all this, bumm13? you're a true font of knowledge. had I known you could help me with this I would have asked months ago :)
2008-01-07 06:01 < bumm13> font, heh
2008-01-07 06:01 < bumm13> I don't know it exactly
2008-01-07 06:01 < bumm13> but I'm fairly good at sifting the characters out of their Unicode ranges :)
2008-01-07 06:03 < Mark_Ryan> okay, in that case, see if you can work out what two more are, that I made do with by just hand-drawing glyphs for: the one immediately 'east' of the Mongolian, and the one at the far right of that row
2008-01-07 06:03 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-07 06:03 < bumm13> ok
2008-01-07 06:09 < Drunken_Idiot> dc
2008-01-07 06:09 < DaveSpart> bum!!!
2008-01-07 06:09 < DaveSpart> no wiki
2008-01-07 06:10 < DaveSpart> no wiki!]
2008-01-07 06:10 < DaveSpart> fix the wiki!
2008-01-07 06:10 < DaveM> tis back
2008-01-07 06:10 < Drunken_Idiot> Pay me lol
2008-01-07 06:10 < Mark_Ryan> hi Drunken_Idiot
2008-01-07 06:11 < Drunken_Idiot> Mark_Ryan: Hi missed you :(
2008-01-07 06:11 * Drunken_Idiot kisses Mark_Ryan.
2008-01-07 06:12 < Mark_Ryan> I'm making a 3D model of the Wikipedia logo :D
2008-01-07 06:12 < Drunken_Idiot> Mark_Ryan: Ah take you're time hon.
2008-01-07 06:14 < Mark_Ryan> hi bainer
2008-01-07 06:15 < Drunken_Idiot> :(
2008-01-07 06:16 < bainer> hello
2008-01-07 06:17 < nazgjunk> rofl
2008-01-07 06:17 < nazgjunk> 404\
2008-01-07 06:18 < Mark_Ryan> what is a 404, nazgjunk?
2008-01-07 06:18 < Mark_Ryan> I mean, I know what one is. just what are you discussing, I mean
2008-01-07 06:19 < nazgjunk> i.am/ebles, the link in drunken_idiot's quit msg
2008-01-07 06:19 < Mark_Ryan> lol, oops
2008-01-07 06:22 < Warpath> heh
2008-01-07 06:23 < Mark_Ryan> bumm13: work in progress - http://www.student.biz.uwa.edu.au/~markryan/Wikipedia%20logo%20-%20test.jpg
2008-01-07 06:23 < bainer> Mark_Ryan: what are you making it with?
2008-01-07 06:24 < Mark_Ryan> bainer: Vue 6
2008-01-07 06:25 < Mark_Ryan> I'm just trying to get the right characters in the right places, I'm using it to animate, not to replace the logo or anything
2008-01-07 06:26 < bainer> non-free software, tut tut
2008-01-07 06:26 < brown_cat> Mark_Ryan: and they say the maritime museum isn't warped enough http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FremantleMaritimeMuseum2_gobeirne.jpg xD
2008-01-07 06:27 < bainer> you should use [[Blender (software)]]
2008-01-07 06:27 < Mark_Ryan> yeah, 3D software is one instance where non-free is better :P Vue is awesome
2008-01-07 06:27 < Mark_Ryan> and I have blender, and use it on occasion, but it's got an unwieldy interface
2008-01-07 06:27 < Mark_Ryan> too many keyboard shortcuts to make it easy to use casually
2008-01-07 06:27 < brown_cat> DANM YOU MARK_RYAN
2008-01-07 06:28 < Mark_Ryan> brown_cat, I'm sure there's a camera angle from which the maritime museum looks like a normal building
2008-01-07 06:28 * Hildanknight waves to Mark_Ryab
2008-01-07 06:28 < Mark_Ryan> hi Hildanknight :)
2008-01-07 06:28 < Hildanknight> *Mark_Ryan
2008-01-07 06:28 < brown_cat> Mark_Ryan: not one where it is standing xD
2008-01-07 06:28 < brown_cat> "This is a blank home page." now I can't browse your files :'(
2008-01-07 06:28 < bainer> that is Blender's big weakness. comes from them doing it in Python, they feel obliged to create the whole interface from scratch
2008-01-07 06:28 < Mark_Ryan> brown_cat, I think I deleted my index.html
2008-01-07 06:28 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-07 06:29 < Hildanknight> Mark, guess what? I'm taking H2 Literature in JC and one of my set texts is Fistful of Colours, a novel by award-winning local author Suchen Christine Lim. I could write a GA, but I need you to...you know what. :P
2008-01-07 06:29 * brown_cat hits the uwa servers with a stick
2008-01-07 06:29 < Mark_Ryan> Hildanknight, lol, send me an email with the search query and I'll do it later or tomorrow
2008-01-07 06:29 < brown_cat> Mark_Ryan: you gonna animate it (as in make it rotate) or, just make a 3d model?
2008-01-07 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> it's not technically a 3D model anyway
2008-01-07 06:30 < Hildanknight> Alright. If you can search for the football clubs as well (you didn't the last time as there were too many pages), great!
2008-01-07 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> it's a sphere with transparency and bump maps etc
2008-01-07 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> I was trying to replicate how nohat did the original, down to the software he used to make the jigsaw pattern (some gump plugin)
2008-01-07 06:30 * Mark_Ryan shudders
2008-01-07 06:31 < Mark_Ryan> er, *gimp
2008-01-07 06:31 < Mark_Ryan> brown_cat: to answer your question, I plan to bring the camera around the model really close from its back to in front of it
2008-01-07 06:32 < Rinn> Are you going to fix the symbols?
2008-01-07 06:32 < Mark_Ryan> Rinn, which ones? the Japanese, dev... whatever the hindi script is called, and tamil, should all be right now
2008-01-07 06:32 < Rinn> Oh, you already fixed them?
2008-01-07 06:32 < Mark_Ryan> yep
2008-01-07 06:32 * Rinn golf clap
2008-01-07 06:32 < Mark_Ryan> no reason to perpetuate errors :)
2008-01-07 06:33 < Mark_Ryan> so anyone have any suggestions about wtf I should put on the back of the globe?
2008-01-07 06:33 < Mark_Ryan> more characters? porn?
2008-01-07 06:34 < Rinn> Penises!
2008-01-07 06:34 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-07 06:34 < brown_cat> crap
2008-01-07 06:34 < brown_cat> i thought i typed a pm in here xD
2008-01-07 06:36 < Mark_Ryan> brown_cat: you did.
2008-01-07 06:36 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-07 06:36 < Mark_Ryan> and in answer to your question, "no".
2008-01-07 06:36 < bumm13> wow, that second character in that row is evil :x
2008-01-07 06:37 < Mark_Ryan> has it stumped you, bumm13? :)
2008-01-07 06:38 < Mark_Ryan> <Mark_Ryan> has it stumped you, bumm13? :)
2008-01-07 06:41 < bumm13_> so far, I'm only guessing that it could be Sinhala ḍha with an ī diacritic, but that'd be pure speculation
2008-01-07 06:41 < bumm13_> (dha with a dot under the "d")
2008-01-07 06:44 < bumm13> the character at the far right of that row (far "southeast" of the sphere) is Thai character "cho ching"
2008-01-07 06:44 < bumm13> (U+0E09)
2008-01-07 06:44 < Mark_Ryan> Thai? damn, I'd checked that too
2008-01-07 06:44 < bumm13> :-)
2008-01-07 06:52 < bainer> Mark_Ryan: you should put the equivalent of "w" in different scripts
2008-01-07 06:52 < bumm13> (that one I'm stumped on doesn't appear to be Lao)
2008-01-07 06:52 < bumm13> they aren't all the equivalent of "w"
2008-01-07 06:52 < bainer> yeah, whoever did the first one didn't know so many equivalents for "w"
2008-01-07 06:52 < bainer> the rear side is the chance to get it right!
2008-01-07 06:53 < bumm13> (omega, for example, is like the English "aw" sound)
2008-01-07 06:54 < bumm13> the Greek word for "Wikipedia" starts with beta
2008-01-07 06:55 < Lubaf> bumm13: It should start with pre-beta, actually.
2008-01-07 06:55 < Lubaf> Beta quality, oh joy!
2008-01-07 06:56 < bumm13> :P
2008-01-07 06:56 < Scott5114> Nobody has said anything since 3:35 central time.
2008-01-07 06:56 < Scott5114> wait
2008-01-07 06:56 < Scott5114> yes they have
2008-01-07 06:56 < Rinn> I don't think that's quite correct.
2008-01-07 06:56 < Scott5114> my client was scrolled up
2008-01-07 06:56 < Scott5114> wtf
2008-01-07 06:56 < shimgray> So, hmm, image copyright. I have a photograph of four books, showing the cover design of them all; it's intended to illustrate the changes in the style of publication over time, but they're clearly photographed as a group of 3-D artifacts not as individual copies of the cover art.
2008-01-07 06:56 < shimgray> what the *hell* is the licensing state of that?
2008-01-07 06:57 * Rinn shrugs
2008-01-07 06:57 < Scott5114> {{fleeinterror}}
2008-01-07 06:58 < shimgray> Pretty much.
2008-01-07 06:58 < TheWeasel> W is a peculiar letter
2008-01-07 06:58 < Lubaf> shimgray: {{fairuse}}, I suppose.
2008-01-07 06:58 < TheWeasel> few languages have it
2008-01-07 06:58 < Scott5114> What about K?
2008-01-07 06:58 < Lubaf> {{fairuse}} actually sounds about right.
2008-01-07 06:58 < TheWeasel> on Wikipedia, we use Hebrew daled, which is D
2008-01-07 06:58 < Scott5114> C and K are pretty much redundant
2008-01-07 06:59 < TheWeasel> if I'm not mistaken
2008-01-07 06:59 < TheWeasel> in the logo
2008-01-07 06:59 < Mark_Ryan> i thought it was a 'rhesh' or something
2008-01-07 06:59 < TheWeasel> oh yea
2008-01-07 06:59 < TheWeasel> other way round
2008-01-07 06:59 < TheWeasel> havent looked at it forever
2008-01-07 07:00 < TheWeasel> indeed, it's an r which is not pronounceable to most English speakers :-D
2008-01-07 07:00 < Lubaf> shimgray: {{fairuse}} + your prefered license, with the note on the page that the image contains a FU of the covers, and that, to the extent that the image is original to you, it's covered by CC or GFDL or PD, or what have you.
2008-01-07 07:00 < TheWeasel> at least the "High Ivrit", Ashkenazi version
2008-01-07 07:00 < Lubaf> (Did that come through all the way?)
2008-01-07 07:00 < Scott5114> (Yes)
2008-01-07 07:00 < shimgray> Lubaf: That's how we've tagged the other two comparable images, but they're simply top-down photographs - the only thing you see is the covers
2008-01-07 07:00 < Lubaf> Okay.
2008-01-07 07:00 < Lubaf> shimgray: How about my longer suggestion?
2008-01-07 07:01 < shimgray> It's clumsy but I think it's the best approach.
2008-01-07 07:01 < shimgray> There's a valid argument that the copyrighted imagery in here *doesn't* extend to the photograph, but I'm not sure if it's quite worth making ;-)
2008-01-07 07:04 < bumm13> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_other_languages <-- fun stuff
2008-01-07 07:08 < shimgray> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pelican_book_covers.jpg is the image, fwiw
2008-01-07 07:27 < bumm13> wb Rinn
2008-01-07 07:27 * Rinn nods
2008-01-07 07:33 < bumm13> you're supposed to say, "Bumm13, you're the bumm-thirteeniest!"
2008-01-07 07:40 < bumm13> Mark_Ryan : still here?
2008-01-07 07:42 < Hildanknight> How do I wikilink to a category without making the page show up in the category?
2008-01-07 07:44 < bumm13> one method is to use [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Foocategory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Foocategory]
2008-01-07 07:45 < bumm13> or just
2008-01-07 07:45 < bumm13> one method is to use [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Foocategory Category:Foocategory]
2008-01-07 07:45 < bainer> [[:Category:Foo]]
2008-01-07 07:45 < bumm13> yeah, that's the correct way
2008-01-07 07:45 < bumm13> do that :)
2008-01-07 07:45 < Aqwis> ^^
2008-01-07 07:46 < Hildanknight> Thanks, bainer!
2008-01-07 07:46 < bainer> same with linking to an image page without displaying the image
2008-01-07 07:46 < bainer> [[:Image:Bar.jpg]]
2008-01-07 07:51 < mavhk> heh, this science exam has gone all philosophical, it wants to know why a rabbit is alive, but a robot isn't, asking CAn it eat food, move, sense, reproduce, breath
2008-01-07 07:52 < Aqwis> rabits are alive? ;)
2008-01-07 07:53 < zocky> BRITNEY SPEARS' ex-husband called the cops on her because he was afraid she would SHOOT DEAD their two sons.
2008-01-07 07:53 < zocky> the stories are getting sillier by the day
2008-01-07 07:53 < zocky> almost makes you scream LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE
2008-01-07 07:54 < Scott5114> Reminds me of that SNL cartoon where Pat O'Brien went around town asking random people "What was Britney thinking?"
2008-01-07 07:56 < Tony_Sidaway> What if the rabbit is dead?
2008-01-07 07:58 < bumm13> zocky: well, she probably does have psychological issues
2008-01-07 08:01 < Scott5114> I do like how she's a bigger story on the CBS early show than floodwaters in Nevada freezing over
2008-01-07 08:01 < bainer> mavhk: you can cheat and read [[negentropy]]
2008-01-07 08:04 < mavhk> bainer: are computers alive then?
2008-01-07 08:05 < bainer> not unless they seek to plug themselves into the power socket
2008-01-07 08:08 < Drunken_Idiot> Bah
2008-01-07 08:09 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-07 08:09 < Drunken_Idiot> Discmon: Sorry about yesterday got dc badly.
2008-01-07 08:09 < Discmon> wow you're still around...
2008-01-07 08:09 < Drunken_Idiot> Gulp for me
2008-01-07 08:09 < Discmon> heh >< its ok ^^
2008-01-07 08:09 < Drunken_Idiot> Discmon: awake for 4 days
2008-01-07 08:09 < Drunken_Idiot> actually
2008-01-07 08:09 < Discmon> I had to go off anyway
2008-01-07 08:09 < Drunken_Idiot> Can't sleep.
2008-01-07 08:10 < Discmon> for 4 days?
2008-01-07 08:10 < Drunken_Idiot> yes
2008-01-07 08:10 < Drunken_Idiot> I am depressed
2008-01-07 08:10 < Drunken_Idiot> and sad
2008-01-07 08:10 < kila> 4 days?
2008-01-07 08:10 < kila> straight?
2008-01-07 08:10 < kila> wouldnt you be passed out?
2008-01-07 08:10 < Discmon> how come?
2008-01-07 08:10 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: Not really
2008-01-07 08:11 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: When I went to Iran was awake for 8 days 3 hrs of sleep only.
2008-01-07 08:11 < boggies> hey.
2008-01-07 08:11 < kila> Drunken_Idiot: i struggle to see that..
2008-01-07 08:11 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: :)
2008-01-07 08:11 < boggies> is it against the policy for a user to claim one is an admin when one is not?
2008-01-07 08:12 < boggies> there's a guy who added himself to Category:Administrators, but he had his first edit yesterday or so.
2008-01-07 08:12 < Discmon> lol....
2008-01-07 08:12 < boggies> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Greenrico09
2008-01-07 08:12 < Discmon> got to go check the rules....
2008-01-07 08:12 < boggies> and he started going around warning experienced wikipedians, too.
2008-01-07 08:14 < Discmon> lol...
2008-01-07 08:14 < Discmon> drunken idiots, why are you depressed?
2008-01-07 08:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Tee Hee.
2008-01-07 08:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Idiots?
2008-01-07 08:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Wow you know I am a Gemini
2008-01-07 08:14 < kila> Drunken_Idiot: actually after doing research.. are you sure it was 8 days?
2008-01-07 08:14 < kila> coz you should be dead.
2008-01-07 08:14 < Discmon> lol... 3 days in a cybercafe and they are dead already
2008-01-07 08:14 < Discmon> you don't exactly need 8
2008-01-07 08:15 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: Huh ?
2008-01-07 08:15 < Drunken_Idiot> Wikia Wants to Shake Up Search
2008-01-07 08:15 < kila> you said it was for 8 days :
2008-01-07 08:15 < kila> * :S
2008-01-07 08:15 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: 4 days.
2008-01-07 08:15 < Drunken_Idiot> 8 with 3 hrs of sleep
2008-01-07 08:15 < Drunken_Idiot> in Iran
2008-01-07 08:16 < Discmon> 4 days isn't too bad....
2008-01-07 08:16 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: I lost 5 KGs tho
2008-01-07 08:16 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-07 08:16 < Drunken_Idiot> Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, is launching a new kind of search t
2008-01-07 08:16 < kila> but over 8 days 3 hours is negligible
2008-01-07 08:16 < Drunken_Idiot> tool, with results that rely on users' input and open-source software
2008-01-07 08:16 < NotACow> Drunken_Idiot: i heard, yes
2008-01-07 08:16 < NotACow> Drunken_Idiot: early reports are that it sucks
2008-01-07 08:16 < Discmon> lol...
2008-01-07 08:17 < Drunken_Idiot> More on the story : http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2008/tc2008014_155055.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_top+story
2008-01-07 08:17 < Drunken_Idiot> NotACow: I might be quiting wikipedia after August.
2008-01-07 08:17 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: Not really. Once you get used to lack of sleep and all becomes a habbit.
2008-01-07 08:17 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: But it did make me sick.
2008-01-07 08:17 < NotACow> Drunken_Idiot: why august?
2008-01-07 08:17 < kila> mmmm...
2008-01-07 08:18 < Discmon> anyway guys, I've got to go , just came up to rummage around heh... ^^
2008-01-07 08:18 < Discmon> cya guys soon
2008-01-07 08:18 < Drunken_Idiot> symptoms >> Vomit , Loss of Weight, didn't get hungry much and memory loss.
2008-01-07 08:18 < Drunken_Idiot> Buh Bye Discmon.
2008-01-07 08:18 < Drunken_Idiot> NotACow: :-) .
2008-01-07 08:21 < Drunken_Idiot> Vandalism is fun.
2008-01-07 08:22 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: What you doing now days?
2008-01-07 08:23 < Drunken_Idiot> Wikipedia is hard to edit on an Iphone :(
2008-01-07 08:24 < kila> Drunken_Idiot: getting ready for a trip I am taking soon
2008-01-07 08:25 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: Good luck. Safe trip. Make sure you pack everything right.
2008-01-07 08:25 < kila> :P
2008-01-07 08:25 < kila> I leave Sunday
2008-01-07 08:25 < Drunken_Idiot> An hour to go for food :(
2008-01-07 08:26 < Drunken_Idiot> When will you be back?
2008-01-07 08:27 < kila> umm late january
2008-01-07 08:30 < Drunken_Idiot> kila: Okay I ll see you in June or Mid-Feb.
2008-01-07 08:30 < Drunken_Idiot> End of June actually.
2008-01-07 08:30 < kila> :S
2008-01-07 08:30 < kila> May not be around then
2008-01-07 08:32 < Drunken_Idiot> :(
2008-01-07 08:33 < Drunken_Idiot> Bye.
2008-01-07 08:35 < bumm13> spam! ;p
2008-01-07 08:36 < zocky> script me baby
2008-01-07 08:57 < brown_cat> im off
2008-01-07 08:57 < brown_cat> what should my part message me?
2008-01-07 08:57 < brown_cat> *be
2008-01-07 08:57 < brown_cat> bumm13: I will give you the honor to choose
2008-01-07 08:57 < cast> thats a lot of responsability
2008-01-07 08:59 * NotACow needs to come up with some new strategies for destroying the wikipedia community. any ideas?
2008-01-07 09:00 < brown_cat> NotACow: pour water on the servers :)
2008-01-07 09:00 < brown_cat> kill jimbo
2008-01-07 09:00 < brown_cat> become a sysop and get a bot to de-sysop all the other sysops
2008-01-07 09:00 < cast> NotACow: work for microsoft
2008-01-07 09:00 < bainer> domas was so proud of the neat cabling, maybe you could tangle it up. then domas would be mad and smash all the servers up
2008-01-07 09:00 * Aqwis feels it's more likely atm that jimbo will be killed than GWB will be killed
2008-01-07 09:01 < cast> NotACow: switch wikipedia to ASP.net D:
2008-01-07 09:01 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-07 09:01 < nazgjunk> /curse cast
2008-01-07 09:01 * brown_cat cuddles nazgjunk
2008-01-07 09:02 < bumm13> Windows Server 200x, IIS, MS SQL, ASP.net
2008-01-07 09:02 < bumm13> wow, brown_cat is an idiot...
2008-01-07 09:06 < Hexagon1> any en:admins?
2008-01-07 09:07 < kila> bumm13: that doesnt load for me :(
2008-01-07 09:07 < bumm13> kila: hmm?
2008-01-07 09:07 < phed_> bah
2008-01-07 09:08 < bumm13> ah, that's a fake URL
2008-01-07 09:08 < phed_> what is it with people adding {cn} to every single sentence
2008-01-07 09:08 < kila> bumm13: yes I know :P
2008-01-07 09:08 < bumm13> (I didn't ban him for the URL supposedly being real)
2008-01-07 09:27 < Hildanknight> What do you call a list of films/articles/whatever that have won a certain award?
2008-01-07 09:27 < Hildanknight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:GA would be an example of such a list.
2008-01-07 09:34 < nazgjunk> List of Academy Award winners, or somesuch?
2008-01-07 09:34 < nazgjunk> winner doesn't sound quite right, should be a better workd
2008-01-07 09:34 < nazgjunk> hrm
2008-01-07 09:34 < nazgjunk> an article doesn't win GA status
2008-01-07 09:34 < Aqwis> it's awarded GA status?
2008-01-07 09:34 < nazgjunk> List of X awarded with Y
2008-01-07 09:35 < nazgjunk> should do the trick, though "awared with an academy award" sounds like crap
2008-01-07 09:35 < bumm13> people who get awards are "award winners"
2008-01-07 09:47 < gwern> http://xkcd.com/367/ <-- wow. this totally speaks to me. I used to be really into the classic EU too (although I'm not *that* interested in ron paul)
2008-01-07 09:47 < gwern> massive props for 'Ron Paul wants to put the New Republic back on the Corusca gem standard'
2008-01-07 09:47 < bumm13> Mark_Ryan
2008-01-07 09:47 < bumm13> (ping)
2008-01-07 09:48 < Mark_Ryan> ya
2008-01-07 09:49 < bumm13> I'm fairly certain now about that character that had me stumped
2008-01-07 09:50 < bumm13> (two spots below Greek omega)
2008-01-07 09:50 < Mark_Ryan> is it sinhalese?
2008-01-07 09:50 < Mark_Ryan> lol, i just found a page of sinhalese characters and it looks so similar
2008-01-07 09:51 < bumm13> they do
2008-01-07 09:51 < bumm13> but it's not Sinhalese
2008-01-07 09:51 < Mark_Ryan> so, what is it?
2008-01-07 09:52 < bumm13> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kannada_script#Unstructured_consonants
2008-01-07 09:53 < bumm13> "va" + vowel sign "i"
2008-01-07 09:53 < Mark_Ryan> :D
2008-01-07 09:53 < bumm13> U+0CB5 and U+0CBF combined
2008-01-07 09:54 < Mark_Ryan> thanks! that's the last one I had no idea on
2008-01-07 09:54 < bumm13> so "vi"
2008-01-07 09:54 < bumm13> :D
2008-01-07 09:54 < bumm13> it makes since as "v" often substitutes for "w"
2008-01-07 09:54 < Mark_Ryan> and I can replace my shonky self-made one
2008-01-07 09:54 < bumm13> \o/
2008-01-07 09:54 < bumm13> that one proved difficult
2008-01-07 09:54 < Mark_Ryan> god Nohat pulled some obscure languages for that logo
2008-01-07 09:55 < bumm13> the use of "loops" on diacritics made for fun speculation at times :P
2008-01-07 09:55 < bumm13> he did
2008-01-07 09:55 < gwern> pity he couldn't get them all right
2008-01-07 09:56 < bumm13> "Kannada is one of the major Dravidian languages of India, spoken predominantly in the southern state of Karnataka. It is the 27th most spoken language in the world, with native speakers called Kannadigas (Kannadigaru) numbering roughly around 35 million. It is one of the official languages of India and the official and administrative language of the state of Karnataka."
2008-01-07 09:56 < Mark_Ryan> bah, still obscure in my eyes
2008-01-07 09:57 < bumm13> well, other than sheer number of speakers, yes
2008-01-07 09:57 * Shiroi_Neko eyes bumm13
2008-01-07 09:57 < Shiroi_Neko> bumm13 you 13 years old or born in 1913?
2008-01-07 09:57 < bumm13> since Hindi is kind of the dominant Indian language, internationally-speaking
2008-01-07 09:58 < Shiroi_Neko> bumm13 you know hindi?
2008-01-07 09:59 < bumm13> Mark_Ryan: I look forward to seeing this 3D rendering :-)
2008-01-07 10:00 * Shiroi_Neko face hugs Mark_Ryan
2008-01-07 10:19 < Leslie_S> heh, i stumbled upon the makeup bag section at work recently
2008-01-07 10:19 < Leslie_S> they have ones that look like little metal briefcases
2008-01-07 10:22 < NotACow> mo
2008-01-07 10:22 < Lycurgus> o
2008-01-07 10:23 < SNORLAX> o
2008-01-07 10:23 < AzaTht> thedj: howd the dig' go?
2008-01-07 10:25 < thedj> AzaTht: still not closer.
2008-01-07 10:25 < AzaTht> ok
2008-01-07 10:52 < quanticle> Shiroi_Neko: How's the MATLAB coming along?
2008-01-07 10:52 < Shiroi_Neko> gave up on it
2008-01-07 10:53 < Shiroi_Neko> I can only fly so much with cliped wings
2008-01-07 10:53 < quanticle> No help from the TAs?
2008-01-07 10:53 < Shiroi_Neko> TAs?
2008-01-07 10:53 < Shiroi_Neko> I dont have TAs
2008-01-07 10:53 < quanticle> Teachers Assistants?
2008-01-07 10:53 < quanticle> You don't?
2008-01-07 10:54 < Shiroi_Neko> nope
2008-01-07 10:54 < quanticle> That's unfortunate
2008-01-07 10:54 * Shiroi_Neko is unassisted
2008-01-07 10:54 < Shiroi_Neko> fortunately it is unfortunate :P
2008-01-07 10:54 < quanticle> The TAs are generally useless in any case, but they do serve as useful scapegoats...
2008-01-07 10:55 < Shiroi_Neko> I use TAs as mere moving targets
2008-01-07 10:55 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-07 10:55 * Shiroi_Neko snipes another dozen
2008-01-07 10:56 * quanticle likes wants to know which College/University Shiroi_Neko is going to
2008-01-07 10:56 * Shiroi_Neko is hovering
2008-01-07 10:56 < quanticle> delete the 'likes' in the previous statemtn
2008-01-07 10:56 < Reedy_Boy> lol
2008-01-07 10:56 < Shiroi_Neko> you dont like to know
2008-01-07 10:56 < Shiroi_Neko> ?
2008-01-07 10:56 < Shiroi_Neko> you ought to like things :P
2008-01-07 10:57 < quanticle> I want to know. "Quanticle likes wants" doesn't parse
2008-01-07 10:57 < Shiroi_Neko> quanticle likes what he wants
2008-01-07 10:57 < Shiroi_Neko> parsed
2008-01-07 10:58 < Reedy_Boy> quanticle wants what he likes
2008-01-07 10:58 < Shiroi_Neko> Reedy_Boy that made you sound horny
2008-01-07 10:58 < Reedy_Boy> :o
2008-01-07 10:58 * Reedy_Boy isnt horny
2008-01-07 10:58 < Reedy_Boy> currently
2008-01-07 10:58 < Shiroi_Neko> lies
2008-01-07 10:58 < Reedy_Boy> o_0
2008-01-07 10:58 < Shiroi_Neko> your pants tell me the cocntrary
2008-01-07 10:59 < Reedy_Boy> oh
2008-01-07 10:59 < Reedy_Boy> so its your hand
2008-01-07 10:59 < Reedy_Boy> right
2008-01-07 10:59 < Reedy_Boy> :$