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2008-01-05 03:05 < pengo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_rating_system
2008-01-05 03:06 < jtizzle1854> ok
2008-01-05 03:18 < Lunaway> Ah, wasn't aware of any other meanings. May want to disambig, then?
2008-01-05 03:18 < pengo> done already
2008-01-05 03:19 < Lunaway> Purr
2008-01-05 03:35 < Lubaf> He's a chicken, I tell you, a giant chicken!
2008-01-05 03:40 < Evil_Monkey> [[I did not have sexual relations with that woman]]
2008-01-05 03:41 < Evil_Monkey> we have an article on a phrase
2008-01-05 03:42 < Evil_Monkey> and yet another Lewinsky-related phrase article [[Vast right-wing conspiracy]]
2008-01-05 03:43 < Lycurgus> yes that's why the English Wikipedia is by far the largest
2008-01-05 03:45 < Evil_Monkey> can you imagine how massive the article on the [[Lewinsky scandal]] would be if it occurred today
2008-01-05 03:45 < pengo> these cup stacking videos on youtube are weird
2008-01-05 03:45 < Evil_Monkey> I mean look at [[Plame affair]] - and there wasn't even sex involved there
2008-01-05 03:46 < Lycurgus> you probably mean the category Monicagate
2008-01-05 03:47 < Evil_Monkey> pengo: like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0YgrUKfTcA
2008-01-05 03:47 < Evil_Monkey> That is just..... unbeliveable
2008-01-05 03:50 < Lycurgus> is the person that was asking about the Writers strike about?
2008-01-05 03:53 < pengo> Evil_Monkey: yup. here's another.. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=OEhVxYN-QAc
2008-01-05 03:53 < Evil_Monkey> why are they all seven-year-olds?
2008-01-05 03:54 < pengo> i dunno.. there's meant to be a seniors division too
2008-01-05 03:55 < Evil_Monkey> It must lose something in the low-res youtube video, since it looks fake
2008-01-05 03:56 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-01-05 03:57 * brown_cat cuddles Evil_Monkey
2008-01-05 03:58 < pengo> brown_cat: you should get into it
2008-01-05 03:59 * brown_cat cuddles pengo
2008-01-05 03:59 < pengo> hi brown_cat
2008-01-05 04:00 < brown_cat> :D
2008-01-05 04:05 < Lycurgus> geez this machine hasn't been rebooted in 51 days
2008-01-05 04:08 < Scott5114> my record is 22 ays
2008-01-05 04:08 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey 7yo?
2008-01-05 04:08 < Luna-San> I've never heard of this speed stacking bit, before.
2008-01-05 04:08 < Luna-San> Speed cubing, yes; stacking, no.
2008-01-05 04:08 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey you pedo? :P
2008-01-05 04:09 < Evil_Monkey> White_Cat: all the videos of kids speed-stacking seem to be that age
2008-01-05 04:09 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey
2008-01-05 04:09 < White_Cat> no one but kids care about that
2008-01-05 04:09 < White_Cat> it is formaly required that 7yo's speed-stack
2008-01-05 04:09 < White_Cat> adults vote-stack
2008-01-05 04:19 < Evil_Monkey> http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10278727
2008-01-05 04:19 < Evil_Monkey> lolcat waiting to happen
2008-01-05 04:23 < Lycurgus> funny you should say that; lolcat is sort of like the Chinese word for Panda which includes the character for cat
2008-01-05 04:23 < Lycurgus> bear-cat iirc
2008-01-05 04:33 < Lycurgus> Cobi: ping.
2008-01-05 04:33 < Cobi> Lycurgus: Pong.
2008-01-05 04:33 < Lycurgus> how do you (as clue-bot) determine a revert is needed?
2008-01-05 04:34 < Lycurgus> (or is it done manually?)
2008-01-05 04:37 < Cobi> Well, basically, there are several primary characteristics and a [[User:ClueBot/Source#Score_List|bad word list]]. The primary characteristics include: page blanking ([[WP:AES|]]), page replaces (AES), major reduction (<= -7500 characters), major expansion (>= 7500 characters), small change (-200 to 200 characters) with obscenities/censoring/"!!!".
2008-01-05 04:38 < Cobi> These characteristics with the score list, allow the bot to make a decision on whether or not to revert.
2008-01-05 04:38 < Lycurgus> I see. No current shit users lists (recent verified vandalism reports)?
2008-01-05 04:39 < Cobi> No. There is a whitelist, though.
2008-01-05 04:40 < Lycurgus> (by which I meant to include IPs) got it.
2008-01-05 04:40 < Lycurgus> score list?
2008-01-05 04:41 < Lycurgus> you mean an internal structure of the bot?
2008-01-05 04:41 < Cobi> All users with more than 50 edits are automatically on the whitelist. When a user is reverted, they are added to the whitelist for that article for 24 hours (1 revert per user per article per day). And then the [[User:ClueBot/Whitelist|list of manually whitelisted users]].
2008-01-05 04:42 < Cobi> No, this score list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClueBot/Source#Score_list
2008-01-05 04:42 < Lubaf> Who do you love?
2008-01-05 04:42 < Lubaf> Yeah, Who do ya love?
2008-01-05 04:42 * Lubaf starts playing the famous guitar solo.
2008-01-05 04:43 < Evil_Monkey> "In a recent poll of 1,219 mothers conducted by BabyCenter.com, 10 percent considered changing their baby's name. "
2008-01-05 04:43 < Evil_Monkey> that'll teach them for naming their child Apple
2008-01-05 04:44 < Evil_Monkey> http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/01/01/baby.name.change/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
2008-01-05 04:44 < Evil_Monkey> one couple changed their kids name when she was four (4!) because there were four other Sophies in the class
2008-01-05 04:45 < Evil_Monkey> so they changed it to Isadora
2008-01-05 04:45 < Evil_Monkey> apparently the four-year-old "understood our reasoning"
2008-01-05 04:46 < Lycurgus> Cobi: thanks, didn't see sources were inspectable. I'm I speak for everyone in saying your efforts are much valued.
2008-01-05 04:46 < Lycurgus> *sure
2008-01-05 04:47 < Cobi> You're welcome :)
2008-01-05 04:49 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey
2008-01-05 04:49 < White_Cat> do you tango?
2008-01-05 04:49 < Evil_Monkey> nope
2008-01-05 04:49 < White_Cat> salsa?
2008-01-05 04:50 * Evil_Monkey cocks head sideways
2008-01-05 04:50 < Evil_Monkey> no dancing of any kind
2008-01-05 04:50 < White_Cat> cock?
2008-01-05 04:50 < White_Cat> Oh my
2008-01-05 04:50 < White_Cat> cock dance!?
2008-01-05 04:50 < Evil_Monkey> "The state of being cocked; an upward turn, tilt or angle."
2008-01-05 04:50 < White_Cat> O_o
2008-01-05 04:51 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey in some cultures such gesture means yes
2008-01-05 04:52 < Evil_Monkey> I was going with quizzical
2008-01-05 04:52 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey would you support the removal of governmental sources from articles?
2008-01-05 04:53 < Evil_Monkey> ?
2008-01-05 04:53 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey say a few ambasadors from a spesific country get killed
2008-01-05 04:53 < White_Cat> by what that country calls terrorists
2008-01-05 04:53 < White_Cat> is that country a credible source?
2008-01-05 04:54 < Lycurgus> White_cat, sounds like you were talking about like Jake's dance in Jarhead
2008-01-05 04:55 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey would say Turkish gov be a reliable source?
2008-01-05 04:55 < Evil_Monkey> perhaps it could be written as "killed by the People's Front of Judea, classified as a terrorist organization by the Romans"
2008-01-05 04:55 < Lycurgus> no, no reliable source, malarkey
2008-01-05 04:56 < Evil_Monkey> [[Al-Qaeda]] really goes a bit overboard with the paragraph of 13 governmental organizations who label them terrorists
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey well
2008-01-05 04:58 < Lycurgus> *Al-Qaeda* according to Wikipedia, the worlds most recognized Jihadist. Consider us first for your Jihadi requirements.
2008-01-05 04:58 < Lycurgus> 13 must surely be a gross undercount
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> I am not calling them terrorist
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> I am merely listing their attacks
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> as attacks
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> not terrorist attacks
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> not murder
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> not acts of immorality
2008-01-05 04:58 < White_Cat> just attacks
2008-01-05 04:58 < pr0nGuy> Isn't there something that Wikipedia has that tracked that some gov organizations were altering Wikipedia pages?
2008-01-05 04:59 < pengo> pr0nGuy: wikiscanner
2008-01-05 04:59 < White_Cat> people do not dispute the validity of the information
2008-01-05 05:00 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey consider http://www.kultur.gov.tr/EN/BelgeGoster.aspx?17A16AE30572D313A781CAA92714FCE0A3216081A23BEF0D
2008-01-05 05:00 < White_Cat> or
2008-01-05 05:00 < White_Cat> http://www.atmg.org/ArmenianTerrorism.html
2008-01-05 05:00 < White_Cat> is either an acceptable source?
2008-01-05 05:00 < Evil_Monkey> I would say so
2008-01-05 05:01 < Evil_Monkey> but of course this is wikipedia. People will argue over one word in an article forever
2008-01-05 05:02 < Lycurgus> or not
2008-01-05 05:04 < White_Cat> Evil_Monkey can you please voice that opinion
2008-01-05 05:06 < Evil_Monkey> which article is this?
2008-01-05 05:07 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_by_the_Armenian_Secret_Army_for_the_Liberation_of_Armenia
2008-01-05 05:07 < White_Cat> well
2008-01-05 05:07 < White_Cat> the organization has a long name
2008-01-05 05:07 < White_Cat> ASALA for short
2008-01-05 05:09 < Evil_Monkey> I'll look at it tomorrow. Sleep time now.
2008-01-05 05:52 < cimon> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/books/06cohenintro.html?ref=books
2008-01-05 05:54 < brown_cat_> O_o
2008-01-05 05:56 < White_Cat> A witch
2008-01-05 05:56 < White_Cat> BURN!
2008-01-05 05:56 < brown_cat_> ARGH!!!!
2008-01-05 05:56 < White_Cat> not you!
2008-01-05 05:56 < White_Cat> cimon
2008-01-05 05:57 < brown_cat_> whew :p
2008-01-05 05:57 * brown_cat_ pours pertol on cimon
2008-01-05 05:58 < White_Cat> "Macaca" has left the building!
2008-01-05 05:58 < White_Cat> :P
2008-01-05 05:58 < DannyLilithborne> burn the witch!
2008-01-05 06:02 < paul4all> yay
2008-01-05 06:02 < paul4all> for bluray
2008-01-05 06:02 < redhat_browncat> O_o
2008-01-05 06:02 < redhat_browncat> ewww
2008-01-05 06:02 < White_Cat> bluray is a sockpuppet
2008-01-05 06:03 < redhat_browncat> isn't bluray disks what I use as placemats?
2008-01-05 06:03 < White_Cat> bluray disks can store your entire drive
2008-01-05 06:03 < redhat_browncat> not mine
2008-01-05 06:07 < Luna-San> I'm mainly just disappointed that Sony and Panasonic were too busy waving their dicks around to reach some sort of agreement.
2008-01-05 06:07 < redhat_browncat> ewwwwww
2008-01-05 06:07 < Luna-San> I really don't care what obscure feature distinctions exist between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD -- trying to push two formats just makes everything ambiguous and impossible.
2008-01-05 06:08 < Luna-San> Solution: don't upgrade until one brand dies
2008-01-05 06:08 < bumm13> I support whatever format isn't pushed by Sony ;p
2008-01-05 06:08 < redhat_browncat> hahaha
2008-01-05 06:08 < redhat_browncat> i like bluray capacity, dvd's longstandingness
2008-01-05 06:08 < Luna-San> You'd think Sony in particular would have learned, based on their long string of failures trying this sort of thing.
2008-01-05 06:08 < bumm13> they never learn
2008-01-05 06:09 < Luna-San> I guess the payoff for having your patent come out on top must be really, really fantastic.
2008-01-05 06:10 < Luna-San> But consumers so blatantly reward unity, just look at the amazing success of DVD; or, hell, USB.
2008-01-05 06:11 < redhat_browncat> sony should have developed something smaller like a small card or something
2008-01-05 06:12 < Luna-San> Hmm, that's a thought. Keep in different markets?
2008-01-05 06:13 < Luna-San> On a side note, I think it's amazing that mechanical stamping still works at the sort of incredibly fine detail needed for things like CDs. The grooves involved are so narrow they approach the wavelength of light. o.o;
2008-01-05 06:13 < redhat_browncat> mhm
2008-01-05 06:22 < max_> I still don't know if I can buy that it's an actual mechanical process untill I read the patent
2008-01-05 06:24 < max_> I can see how in principle you could have the foil laminated on the cd substrate and then stamp it with the die
2008-01-05 06:25 < max_> just boggles the mind the nitpicky engineering dtails that would have to be worked out though
2008-01-05 06:26 < max_> hooray i has wikidump
2008-01-05 06:26 < max_> gnite folks
2008-01-05 06:32 < Lycurgus> CDs are not produced mechanically as the latter would be interpreted norminal in either British or American English.
2008-01-05 06:33 < Lycurgus> for a small population the use of lasers would be considered "mechanical"
2008-01-05 06:33 < Lycurgus> but I presume that population not in play here
2008-01-05 06:33 < Lycurgus> *normally
2008-01-05 06:35 < White_Cat> Luna-San
2008-01-05 06:35 < White_Cat> Sony and Panasonic are pussies
2008-01-05 06:35 < Lycurgus> also pretty sure the mentioned scale of features (presuably referencing visible light) in error
2008-01-05 06:35 < White_Cat> they cant wave dicks
2008-01-05 06:36 < White_Cat> Dick waving is ruled illegal in the US.
2008-01-05 06:36 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-05 06:36 < Lycurgus> real ones or the big styrofoam kind guys sell at sporting events?
2008-01-05 06:36 < White_Cat> Dick weaving.... Now that's legal.
2008-01-05 06:41 < Luna-San> o.o
2008-01-05 06:50 < White_Cat> Luna-San
2008-01-05 06:50 < White_Cat> america suffers from dicks
2008-01-05 06:50 < White_Cat> america needs more pussies
2008-01-05 06:50 < White_Cat> like mua?
2008-01-05 06:50 < Lycurgus> better ask the pussies about first
2008-01-05 06:50 < White_Cat> Well, I am not exactly welcome to the states
2008-01-05 06:50 < Lycurgus> *that
2008-01-05 06:50 < White_Cat> Lycurgus I am a pussy
2008-01-05 06:51 * White_Cat <- pussy cat
2008-01-05 06:51 < Lycurgus> Oh, OK, well carry on then.
2008-01-05 06:51 < White_Cat> pussies dont "carry on"
2008-01-05 06:51 < Lycurgus> yeah, I know they all have baggage
2008-01-05 06:51 < The359> they bleed
2008-01-05 06:51 < The359> and the goggles do nothing
2008-01-05 06:52 < Lycurgus> Hi Schot!
2008-01-05 06:59 < Luna-San> Wow. I just watched Judge Judy spend around nine minutes reaming an eBay scammer.
2008-01-05 07:05 < Lycurgus> did she continue to refer to them as Sir/Madam?
2008-01-05 07:05 < Lycurgus> when she's really pissed she issues a summary judgment and dismisses the case
2008-01-05 07:06 < Luna-San> Hmm... she did, now that you mention it.
2008-01-05 07:06 < Luna-San> Finished it off with a $5k judgement in favor of the plaintiff.
2008-01-05 07:07 < Lycurgus> that's the max they allow
2008-01-05 07:07 < Lycurgus> the show actually pays it
2008-01-05 07:08 < bumm13> Judge Judy layin' the smack down? ;)
2008-01-05 07:10 < Luna-San> The show pays? Interesting. o.o
2008-01-05 07:11 < bumm13> the parties choose to have their case tried in Judge Judy's court
2008-01-05 07:12 < bumm13> (since it's non-criminal stuff)
2008-01-05 07:13 < Randomtime> I never got that programm
2008-01-05 07:13 < Randomtime> just someone shouting at somebody else
2008-01-05 07:26 * brown_cat watches Luna-San
2008-01-05 07:26 * Luna-San dances
2008-01-05 07:26 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-05 07:30 * brown_cat waits to be adopted by Luna-San
2008-01-05 07:34 * Randomtime laughs
2008-01-05 07:35 * brown_cat scares Randomtime >:D
2008-01-05 07:35 * Randomtime backs away from brown_cat
2008-01-05 07:35 < White_Cat> so Luna-San
2008-01-05 07:36 < White_Cat> what about dick waving?
2008-01-05 07:36 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-05 07:36 < White_Cat> M$ has a larger longer dick
2008-01-05 07:36 < pengo> is there an article for that?
2008-01-05 07:36 < Buratinoo> hi all bodies
2008-01-05 07:36 < White_Cat> (Southern accent) pengo I sure hope not
2008-01-05 07:37 < brown_cat> White_Cat: M$ on viagra?
2008-01-05 07:37 < Buratinoo> anybody can say what simbol is at picture http://wiki/images/a/ad/V_simbol.jpg ?
2008-01-05 07:37 < White_Cat> no
2008-01-05 07:37 < White_Cat> on wheels
2008-01-05 07:37 < Buratinoo> ÇÚÙ
2008-01-05 07:37 < Buratinoo> ups
2008-01-05 07:37 < pengo> M$ has Bill Gates who is a big dick
2008-01-05 07:38 < bumm13> Buratinoo: that URL doesn't resolve to an image
2008-01-05 07:39 < Buratinoo> bumm13 strange gluk from local mediawiki
2008-01-05 07:40 < brown_cat> my mum makes me want to kill myself
2008-01-05 07:40 < Buratinoo> anybody can say what simbol is at picture http://wiki.laser.ru/images/a/ad/V_simbol.jpg
2008-01-05 07:40 < brown_cat> v inside brackets?
2008-01-05 07:40 < pengo> Buratinoo: it's just (v)
2008-01-05 07:40 < White_Cat> pengo no
2008-01-05 07:40 < White_Cat> Bill has a tiny dick
2008-01-05 07:40 < White_Cat> he extends it using 1000$ bills
2008-01-05 07:40 < pengo> White_Cat: "has" and "is" are different things
2008-01-05 07:40 < White_Cat> he is covered in bills
2008-01-05 07:41 < White_Cat> and by that I dont mean the kind you pay money
2008-01-05 07:41 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-05 07:41 < brown_cat> White_Cat is horny?
2008-01-05 07:41 < White_Cat> no
2008-01-05 07:41 < White_Cat> bill is
2008-01-05 07:41 < brown_cat> hahaha
2008-01-05 07:41 * brown_cat milks bill
2008-01-05 07:42 < White_Cat> Luna-San came up with the dick waving thing
2008-01-05 07:42 * brown_cat gives bill's milk to pengo
2008-01-05 07:42 * brown_cat runs off
2008-01-05 07:42 < Buratinoo> brown_cat seem it is something like greek or latin and not pure "v"
2008-01-05 07:42 < brown_cat> v in latin font?
2008-01-05 07:42 < brown_cat> Buratinoo: ask on www.qna.live.com
2008-01-05 07:42 < brown_cat> :)
2008-01-05 07:43 < Buratinoo> brown_cat: aaaa it is hand-made latin v
2008-01-05 07:43 < bumm13> it's just a stylized "v", like how they look when used as math variables or whatnot
2008-01-05 07:43 * Buratinoo don't see hand written latin simbols for long time ;-)
2008-01-05 07:44 * brown_cat attempts to call dell so he can get cheap calls to india
2008-01-05 07:52 < bumm13> hiya Mark_Ryan
2008-01-05 07:52 < Mark_Ryan> hi :)
2008-01-05 07:56 * ryannnn fills the channel with herpes gas
2008-01-05 08:11 < NSLE> just thought someone should take a quick look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cupset and AFD it
2008-01-05 08:11 * NSLE is off again
2008-01-05 08:19 < DannyLilithborne> someone just vape [[Cupset]], it's total crap
2008-01-05 08:23 < White_Cat> I am captain Jean-Luc Picard. Who the f$%& are you?
2008-01-05 08:34 < TheWeasel> What's this thing called a permission error, anyway?
2008-01-05 08:34 < HonestRecruiter_> was it you asked about the Writers strike?
2008-01-05 08:35 < TheWeasel> Me? No.
2008-01-05 08:35 < Luna-San> I usually get those during a db-lock.
2008-01-05 08:35 < HonestRecruiter_> ah, sorry.
2008-01-05 08:35 < TheWeasel> Alright
2008-01-05 08:36 < NotACow> moo!
2008-01-05 08:37 < HonestRecruiter_> who?
2008-01-05 08:37 < TheWeasel> maybe it's the standard answer for people not-logged in that click on a redlink?
2008-01-05 08:38 < TheWeasel> which would be awkward
2008-01-05 08:38 < TheWeasel> not to mention rude
2008-01-05 08:39 < HonestRecruiter_> gibt es eine Ausdrucke oder Idiom in Deutsche wie "hoeflichkeit ist nachste Gottlichkeit"?
2008-01-05 08:40 < TheWeasel> say that in English
2008-01-05 08:41 < TheWeasel> maybe
2008-01-05 08:41 < HonestRecruiter_> in Amerika personal hygiene trumps politeness and if one has to go it's usually the latter
2008-01-05 08:41 < bumm13> hiya TheWeasel
2008-01-05 08:41 < TheWeasel> America is not very polite, but very chummy
2008-01-05 08:41 < HonestRecruiter_> yeah buddy
2008-01-05 08:41 < TheWeasel> I guess it's a matter of taste
2008-01-05 08:41 < TheWeasel> see? :-)
2008-01-05 08:42 < HonestRecruiter_> I assure the accounting rules are being worked out.
2008-01-05 08:42 < HonestRecruiter_> *you
2008-01-05 08:43 < TheWeasel> Do we not allow non-logged in users to fill in redlinks?
2008-01-05 08:44 < FauxFaux> Yes?
2008-01-05 08:45 < TheWeasel> News to me
2008-01-05 08:45 < HonestRecruiter_> No.
2008-01-05 08:45 < HonestRecruiter_> i.e. No we do not.
2008-01-05 08:45 < TheWeasel> Why not?
2008-01-05 08:46 < HonestRecruiter_> Policy.
2008-01-05 08:46 < TheWeasel> what's the reason for the policy?
2008-01-05 08:46 < TheWeasel> We could at least have a less rude message to get the point across
2008-01-05 08:46 < HonestRecruiter_> I suppose that it's thought ...
2008-01-05 08:46 < Aqwis> "fill in redlinks"?
2008-01-05 08:47 < HonestRecruiter_> that anonymous editing is fine but new article creation is another matter.
2008-01-05 08:47 < Aqwis> you mean unregistered users aren't allowed to link words that don't lead to articles?
2008-01-05 08:47 < TheWeasel> Yea, create new articles there
2008-01-05 08:47 < Aqwis> oh, that
2008-01-05 08:47 < TheWeasel> even if a redlink already exists
2008-01-05 08:48 < Mark_Ryan> there was a discussion about whether to re-allow that on the mailing lists
2008-01-05 08:48 < Mark_Ryan> like, a month or two ago
2008-01-05 08:48 < Mark_Ryan> I'm not sure if Tim ever re-enabled it
2008-01-05 08:48 < HonestRecruiter_> rude is a matter of judgement. The current text would be considered appropriate for a concern like WM in the united states.
2008-01-05 08:49 * TheWeasel is not logged in and doesn't get a message saying "you need to be logged in to create this", but something like "permission error"
2008-01-05 08:49 < HonestRecruiter_> absolutely not for a commercial concern
2008-01-05 08:49 < TheWeasel> which is cold and doesn't say much
2008-01-05 08:50 < TheWeasel> Heh, because we're NP we can be rude?
2008-01-05 08:50 < TheWeasel> that's an odd kind of logic
2008-01-05 08:51 < Mark_Ryan> TheWeasel: that looks to be a new problem, I know there used to be a message explaining it to people
2008-01-05 08:51 < NotACow> i've been impressed at how rude people on wikipedia can be
2008-01-05 08:51 * TheWeasel finds it terrible
2008-01-05 08:51 < HonestRecruiter_> i find it to be an effective compromise between unctious and smart ass
2008-01-05 08:52 < TheWeasel> None of which we should aspire to be
2008-01-05 08:52 < HonestRecruiter_> or cutesy which with smarmy are the other response styles current here
2008-01-05 08:52 < bumm13> kind of like quickly obliterating images that don't have "proper" fair use rationale ;p
2008-01-05 08:52 < NotACow> TheWeasel: it makes perfect sense when you remember that wikipedia is an increasingly-exclusive club rather than a project to write an encyclopedia.
2008-01-05 08:53 < HonestRecruiter_> I guess I support that. In the limit everybody would have thier own wikipedia instance in which they could do whatever they wanted ...
2008-01-05 08:53 < TheWeasel> nothing says "you're second class vermin" more bureaucratically
2008-01-05 08:54 < White_Cat> NotACow oh really
2008-01-05 08:54 < White_Cat> whose fault is that?
2008-01-05 08:54 < TheWeasel> White_Cat: Of the people who write such messages?
2008-01-05 08:54 < NotACow> White_Cat: jimmy's
2008-01-05 08:54 < HonestRecruiter_> and there would be somekina veropedia mechanism over it all linking and filtering the approved common content.
2008-01-05 08:54 < White_Cat> NotACow yeah right!
2008-01-05 08:54 < NotACow> White_Cat: everyone on wikipedia is jimmy's fault
2008-01-05 08:54 < White_Cat> Jimmy hardly is involved with the encyclopedia
2008-01-05 08:54 < Mark_Ryan> what would be a better solution would be replacing "Permission Error" with text encouraging the users to create Wikipedia accounts if they want to start new articles
2008-01-05 08:54 < White_Cat> infact I wager Jimbo could care less about wikipedia on an average day
2008-01-05 08:54 < TheWeasel> Precisely.
2008-01-05 08:54 < Aqwis> not a better solution, the only solution
2008-01-05 08:54 < NotACow> White_Cat: jimmy still insists that he's ultimately in charge, therefore everything on wikipedia is his responsibility.
2008-01-05 08:55 < White_Cat> unless media is involved he isnt involved
2008-01-05 08:55 < White_Cat> NotACow we both know thats not true
2008-01-05 08:55 < NotACow> if he doesn't want the responsibility, he should give it up
2008-01-05 08:55 < White_Cat> NotACow responsibility is shared
2008-01-05 08:55 < TheWeasel> Whoever came up with this message seriously needs remedial communication skills
2008-01-05 08:55 < NotACow> hand off to sommeone who does care.
2008-01-05 08:55 < White_Cat> NotACow no one is fit for the job
2008-01-05 08:55 < Aqwis> programmer language, TheWeasel
2008-01-05 08:55 < NotACow> White_Cat: nonsense
2008-01-05 08:55 < HonestRecruiter_> (und von "here", Ich meinte in der Vereinigten Staaten)
2008-01-05 08:56 < Aqwis> most of them don't care abotu the end-user :p
2008-01-05 08:56 < Aqwis> *about
2008-01-05 08:56 < White_Cat> You surely arent, despite being a former arbitrator and I am not even a candidate candidate
2008-01-05 08:56 < NotACow> White_Cat: i'm sure there are people fit for te job.
2008-01-05 08:56 < TheWeasel> I don't care. We're too much tilted towards programmers anyway.
2008-01-05 08:56 < White_Cat> NotACow and what would they do?
2008-01-05 08:56 < White_Cat> ban me?
2008-01-05 08:56 < White_Cat> ban you?
2008-01-05 08:56 < White_Cat> ban TheWeasel?
2008-01-05 08:56 < Aqwis> unfortunately, that happens everytime most of the programmers for a project are volunteers
2008-01-05 08:56 < White_Cat> thats hardly going to solve anything
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> omfg, that is classic
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> I was making a presentation to a group of principals (like 10) and someone from the department of education
2008-01-05 08:57 < White_Cat> Jimbo in part I feel it is your fault that wikipedia turned out to be what it is
2008-01-05 08:57 < White_Cat> ack
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> then, I get asked a question about the common cost to make a website in the web design industry
2008-01-05 08:57 < White_Cat> *NotACow in part I feel it is your fault that wikipedia turned out to be what it is
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> so I say...
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> "well, if you go and take a look at a site, for example lockard, it cost them $2000 to have it made and look at it"
2008-01-05 08:57 < fabi_an> hi, is there a static HTML dump of wikipedia which I can download via rsync?
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> so I take them to show them the url
2008-01-05 08:57 < ryannnn> and THAT day the site had been replaced by a brand new one which is way better xD
2008-01-05 08:57 < White_Cat> NotACow do you not troll from time to time?
2008-01-05 08:57 < White_Cat> Do you not play the overlord from time to time?
2008-01-05 08:58 < NotACow> fabi_an: no, there is not.
2008-01-05 08:58 < TheWeasel> heh, "shut up and keep serving?" as an alternative?
2008-01-05 08:58 < TheWeasel> -?
2008-01-05 08:58 < fabi_an> NotACow: is there _any_ download possibility via rsync?
2008-01-05 08:58 < NotACow> fabi_an: no
2008-01-05 08:58 < HonestRecruiter_> lockard?
2008-01-05 08:59 < ryannnn> HonestRecruiter_: a consulting company I know
2008-01-05 08:59 < ryannnn> I was using the site as an example
2008-01-05 08:59 < HonestRecruiter_> and how would we make sense of your text without an URL or something?
2008-01-05 09:00 < HonestRecruiter_> saying what was gotten for $2K.
2008-01-05 09:00 < ryannnn> HonestRecruiter_: I was talking about building websites and, when showing them an example, my example changed to something I did not expect
2008-01-05 09:01 < HonestRecruiter_> .oO($#@%!)
2008-01-05 09:01 < ryannnn> O_O
2008-01-05 09:02 < ryannnn> HonestRecruiter_: ?
2008-01-05 09:02 < White_Cat> NotACow do you recall the hell you put me through?
2008-01-05 09:02 < HonestRecruiter_> ryannnn: you have a question for me?
2008-01-05 09:03 < ryannnn> <HonestRecruiter_> .oO($#@%!)
2008-01-05 09:03 < ryannnn> :s
2008-01-05 09:03 < TheWeasel> bad vibrations here today
2008-01-05 09:03 < White_Cat> Of course you don't NotACow. Now think about it BEFORE you complain about anything here ever again.
2008-01-05 09:03 < ryannnn> TheWeasel: I can help fix that O_O
2008-01-05 09:03 < White_Cat> I have a forgiving nature. But I NEVER forget.
2008-01-05 09:04 < TheWeasel> White_Cat: You're not forgiving right now, are you
2008-01-05 09:04 < White_Cat> TheWeasel well
2008-01-05 09:04 < White_Cat> I did support NotACow's rfa on commons
2008-01-05 09:04 < White_Cat> thats how much I trust her
2008-01-05 09:04 < White_Cat> as a wikipedian
2008-01-05 09:04 < TheWeasel> so it's a selective forgiveness.
2008-01-05 09:04 < White_Cat> DESPITE what I had been through
2008-01-05 09:04 < HonestRecruiter_> didn you say you were a pussy cat?
2008-01-05 09:04 < NotACow> White_Cat: i remember saving you from being banned from wikipedia.
2008-01-05 09:05 < NotACow> White_Cat: i regret that
2008-01-05 09:05 < White_Cat> NotACow you were never trying to save me
2008-01-05 09:05 < White_Cat> you were trying to save informal mediation
2008-01-05 09:05 < White_Cat> which is a good thing
2008-01-05 09:05 < NotACow> true, but in s doing i saved your ass, too
2008-01-05 09:05 < White_Cat> I never attacked you.
2008-01-05 09:05 < NotACow> me and tony sidaway
2008-01-05 09:05 < White_Cat> I never will attack you.
2008-01-05 09:05 < White_Cat> You did attack me multiple times.
2008-01-05 09:06 < White_Cat> Helping someone out once or twice isnt a license to attack him/her/it
2008-01-05 09:06 * ryannnn cuddles White_Cat then leaves in a puff of smoke
2008-01-05 09:06 < NotACow> i only attack you for being who you are
2008-01-05 09:06 < NotACow> an unremitting pro-turk POV pusher
2008-01-05 09:06 < White_Cat> NotACow which is exactly why you should not ever complain here
2008-01-05 09:06 < fabi_an> NotACow: and do you know whether the september 2007 dump is complete?
2008-01-05 09:06 < NotACow> you should be desysoped on commons, but i'm too lazy to make the case
2008-01-05 09:06 < NotACow> fabi_an: doubtful.
2008-01-05 09:06 < White_Cat> NotACow you arent lazy
2008-01-05 09:06 < White_Cat> it wont work
2008-01-05 09:06 < fabi_an> NotACow: (this page: http://static.wikipedia.org/ says both available and in progress)
2008-01-05 09:06 < White_Cat> I havent vote stacked that
2008-01-05 09:06 < NotACow> fabi_an: dumps have been highly unreliable.
2008-01-05 09:07 < White_Cat> I earned it
2008-01-05 09:07 < White_Cat> once you earn something no one can take it away that easily
2008-01-05 09:07 < fabi_an> NotACow: :-/. why?
2008-01-05 09:07 < White_Cat> and by earn I mean community trust
2008-01-05 09:07 < NotACow> White_Cat: you should be desysoped because you use your sysop rights to remove content from commons that you personally disagree with
2008-01-05 09:07 < TheWeasel> White_Cat: You're not arguing the point.
2008-01-05 09:08 < White_Cat> NotACow like what?
2008-01-05 09:08 < TheWeasel> whatever
2008-01-05 09:08 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-01-05 09:08 < White_Cat> Do I delete the kurdish flag?
2008-01-05 09:08 < NotACow> White_Cat: anything that you view as pro-Kurd.
2008-01-05 09:08 < White_Cat> NotACow lies
2008-01-05 09:08 < fabi_an> NotACow: does "unreliable" means, the dumps are corrupt?
2008-01-05 09:08 < White_Cat> I delete anything that lacks adequate copyright
2008-01-05 09:08 < White_Cat> for example I deleted US license plates
2008-01-05 09:08 < NotACow> White_Cat: i don't care enough to actually do anything.
2008-01-05 09:08 < TheWeasel> Except if it makes fun of Armenia of course!
2008-01-05 09:09 < White_Cat> NotACow I do not think it is a matter of caring. You are just dead wrong and you can't admit it.
2008-01-05 09:09 < NotACow> but the fact remains that you're a POV pusher
2008-01-05 09:09 < TheWeasel> (cause that is the fairest use anyone could imagine)
2008-01-05 09:09 < White_Cat> NotACow right.
2008-01-05 09:09 < White_Cat> I am a pov-pusher
2008-01-05 09:09 < White_Cat> Guess what.
2008-01-05 09:09 < White_Cat> I do not push any pov.
2008-01-05 09:10 < TheWeasel> no siree.
2008-01-05 09:10 < White_Cat> TheWeasel be careful with the next word you say. It may be your last as the King of Sparta.
2008-01-05 09:10 < White_Cat> This is SPARTAAAAA!
2008-01-05 09:10 < TheWeasel> Greece is a democracy.
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> oh wait
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> yea since I am a pro-turk
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> I am supposed to hate 300
2008-01-05 09:11 < TheWeasel> the Spartan lifestyle isn't really for me
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> TheWeasel come on
2008-01-05 09:11 < Mark_Ryan> lol, is that where the word 'spartan' comes from?
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> kicking persians into pits
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan yes it is
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> its an anciet greek city
2008-01-05 09:11 < TheWeasel> Persians =|= Turks?
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> used to be a city state
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> Persians are Iranians
2008-01-05 09:11 < White_Cat> they would skin you if you called them a Turk
2008-01-05 09:12 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan
2008-01-05 09:12 < TheWeasel> I know that
2008-01-05 09:12 < TheWeasel> so why are you supposed to hate 300?
2008-01-05 09:12 < White_Cat> Sparta used to be among the most powerful city states until the helenic era
2008-01-05 09:12 < White_Cat> TheWeasel its a Greek vitory. Pro-turk people are supposed to hate everything greek, armenian, assyrian, arabic, usian, and anything I lef out
2008-01-05 09:13 < TheWeasel> but there isn't an awful lot of Sparta left in modern Greek
2008-01-05 09:13 < TheWeasel> so I guess it's alright
2008-01-05 09:13 < White_Cat> Sparta is a Greek city
2008-01-05 09:13 < White_Cat> as in its in Greece
2008-01-05 09:13 < TheWeasel> Yea, but there's not much left of Spartan culture in today's Greece
2008-01-05 09:13 < White_Cat> Mark_Ryan you into ancient Egypt?
2008-01-05 09:14 < TheWeasel> neither in the one the Turks first went against
2008-01-05 09:14 < White_Cat> TheWeasel after the Helenic era all cultures merged
2008-01-05 09:14 < TheWeasel> there
2008-01-05 09:14 < White_Cat> by the time Ottomans arrived Hellenic empire was long gone
2008-01-05 09:14 < TheWeasel> Greece as it were is not recognizable in the Sparta depicted in the movie
2008-01-05 09:14 < White_Cat> Romans seen to that
2008-01-05 09:14 < TheWeasel> besides that it's a terrible movie full of jingoism and pathos
2008-01-05 09:14 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-01-05 09:15 < White_Cat> TheWeasel a lot change in 2000 years
2008-01-05 09:15 < bumm13> modern Greece basically has the language and its alphabet, mostly
2008-01-05 09:15 < TheWeasel> yup
2008-01-05 09:15 < White_Cat> bumm13 I dont know
2008-01-05 09:16 < White_Cat> I think Greek government tried to revie the culture of the ancients but they had been partialy successful
2008-01-05 09:16 < White_Cat> I mean hardly anyone wears the ancient clothes
2008-01-05 09:16 < TheWeasel> And of course the cunning character!
2008-01-05 09:17 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-05 09:17 < TheWeasel> i.e. Trojan horse etc.
2008-01-05 09:17 < TheWeasel> and teh gayness
2008-01-05 09:17 < Leslie_S> trojan
2008-01-05 09:17 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-01-05 09:17 < bumm13> :x
2008-01-05 09:17 < White_Cat> Trojan Horse, well
2008-01-05 09:17 < Leslie_S> is this trojan horse a magnum xl?
2008-01-05 09:17 < Kieff> hello
2008-01-05 09:17 < bumm13> hiya Kieff
2008-01-05 09:17 < White_Cat> TheWeasel A trojan horse is an excelent strategy
2008-01-05 09:17 < White_Cat> unpenetratible walls?
2008-01-05 09:17 < TheWeasel> I own a "clean" Greek classic myth book where the gayness is all but erased
2008-01-05 09:18 < White_Cat> just let them open the door
2008-01-05 09:18 < White_Cat> TheWeasel you got to have a healthy dose of gayness
2008-01-05 09:18 < TheWeasel> not in 1955.
2008-01-05 09:18 < White_Cat> TheWeasel sure you did
2008-01-05 09:18 < White_Cat> you just did so secretly
2008-01-05 09:18 < White_Cat> which added fun right?
2008-01-05 09:18 < TheWeasel> the original by Homer did not pass censorship 1850-1950
2008-01-05 09:18 < White_Cat> I mean you lived in the era!
2008-01-05 09:18 < TheWeasel> Oh yea.
2008-01-05 09:19 < TheWeasel> Heureka.
2008-01-05 09:19 < Weaselos> Dig?
2008-01-05 09:19 < Weaselos> :-D
2008-01-05 09:20 < White_Cat> NotACow I lack an agenda
2008-01-05 09:20 < White_Cat> Had I had an agenda I would know
2008-01-05 09:20 < White_Cat> and I am not Sam Becket either
2008-01-05 09:21 < TheGodot> I'm here!
2008-01-05 09:23 < TheGodot> Okay, falling on deaf ears
2008-01-05 09:24 < TheWeasel> "Though a piece of the Holy Sponge, brown with blood, is preserved in Rome in the Basilica di San Giovanni in Laterano, and held in great veneration, this should not be confused with the sponge of Saint Praxedis, which is not the Holy Sponge."
2008-01-05 09:24 < TheWeasel> Dude...
2008-01-05 09:25 < bumm13> o.o
2008-01-05 09:25 < TheWeasel> some articles give up the tone that gives away the speculative nature of the subject pretty fast
2008-01-05 09:25 < TheWeasel> about the last two-thirds of the article are absolutely matter-of-factly
2008-01-05 09:25 < TheWeasel> just a second
2008-01-05 09:27 * HonestRecruiter_ interprets "The Holy Sponge" in terms of "Seinfeld".
2008-01-05 09:27 < TheWeasel> I guess it gets tired to write "alleged" 50 times
2008-01-05 09:28 < TheWeasel> *tiring
2008-01-05 09:28 < HonestRecruiter_> yes, in an article about some aspect of a superstition you are pushing a POV is you point out even once that it is in fact a superstition.
2008-01-05 09:29 < HonestRecruiter_> s/is/if/
2008-01-05 09:29 < HonestRecruiter_> or some ancillary counterfactual within said superstition
2008-01-05 09:30 < TheWeasel> heh, the problem arises when everyone who has published on the topic is a believer.
2008-01-05 09:30 < HonestRecruiter_> Sie mussen erhobene sein.
2008-01-05 09:31 < TheWeasel> don't use translation engines, even speakers of German won't understand you
2008-01-05 09:31 < HonestRecruiter_> I didn't.
2008-01-05 09:31 < TheWeasel> it has the characteristics of an online translation
2008-01-05 09:32 < HonestRecruiter_> my use of languages other than english will necessarily take some liberties
2008-01-05 09:32 < TheWeasel> especially the -e in the end of the (literal, but even then oddly chosen) translation of "high"
2008-01-05 09:32 < HonestRecruiter_> I hope that like Grillparzer, you will find this if not "cute", tolerable.
2008-01-05 09:32 < Leslie_S> ah, my volvo is warming up
2008-01-05 09:32 < Leslie_S> shall be leaving shortly :D
2008-01-05 09:33 < TheWeasel> google translate translates "make" as "bilden" which is wrong in 99% of cases
2008-01-05 09:33 < HonestRecruiter_> gozzle can kiss my dick head
2008-01-05 09:33 < HonestRecruiter_> *goozle
2008-01-05 09:34 < TheWeasel> translation software has been amazingly bad for an eternity
2008-01-05 09:34 < Leslie_S> ....
2008-01-05 09:34 < Leslie_S> so you admit that youre a dickheadf
2008-01-05 09:34 < TheWeasel> and essentially not improved
2008-01-05 09:34 < HonestRecruiter_> maybe, with the proper remuneration
2008-01-05 09:34 < TheWeasel> Leslie_S: Just that he's got one
2008-01-05 09:34 < TheWeasel> the EU allegedly has an adequate system for that
2008-01-05 09:34 < TheWeasel> never seen it though
2008-01-05 09:35 < bogdan> hey
2008-01-05 09:35 < bogdan> if an American photograph takes a photo in Paris in 1922, is it PD or not?
2008-01-05 09:36 < TheWeasel> long time no see
2008-01-05 09:36 < HonestRecruiter_> natural language translation is so-called "hard AI". It's actually coming along reasonably well under the circumstances.
2008-01-05 09:36 < bogdan> by US laws, it is. by French laws it's not.
2008-01-05 09:36 < bogdan> hey, TheWeasel!
2008-01-05 09:36 < Mvdl> hola
2008-01-05 09:36 < TheWeasel> bogdan: Yea, the creator's jurisdiction counts
2008-01-05 09:37 < TheWeasel> Yea, it's probably just the resources available for free that suck so badly up to now
2008-01-05 09:37 < bogdan> TheWeasel: but what if the photographer was born in Luxemburg?
2008-01-05 09:37 < bogdan> and he got the US citizenship in 1900.
2008-01-05 09:37 < TheWeasel> I would say it's still good
2008-01-05 09:38 < TheWeasel> no law before the time of the taking counts
2008-01-05 09:38 < TheWeasel> (new laws abrogate old laws)
2008-01-05 09:38 < Luna-San> * 06:36, January 5, 2008 (hist) (diff) Relationship between religion and science? (?Replaced page with 'daisy and caitlin are friends!!!!!!')
2008-01-05 09:38 < Luna-San> Awwwww
2008-01-05 09:38 < TheWeasel> terrible names
2008-01-05 09:38 < TheWeasel> ...but the English -> German translations haven't improved since the halcyon days of Altavista
2008-01-05 09:39 < TheWeasel> about eight years ago
2008-01-05 09:39 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-01-05 09:40 < HonestRecruiter_> FTR by 'erhobene' I meant "exhalted", "detached", 'above it all' uam appropos NPOV.
2008-01-05 09:41 < TheWeasel> "Children in the Australian colonies were often observed playing "flogging games" where a doll or another child would pretend to be "strung from the triangles" and whipped." ... those better times of courtesy and decency
2008-01-05 09:41 < TheWeasel> it's an adverbial here, they don't get inflected :-)
2008-01-05 09:42 < HonestRecruiter_> 'Sie mussen erhoben sein"?
2008-01-05 09:42 < TheWeasel> yea, you wouldn't say that though
2008-01-05 09:42 < TheWeasel> "über allem stehen" or something
2008-01-05 09:44 < HonestRecruiter_> just wait till I get my Canjie input methods going with irssi and show up in Chinese chat rooms announcing myself as "Mei Guo"
2008-01-05 09:45 < TheWeasel> woohoo
2008-01-05 09:45 < TheWeasel> ah, "erhaben" is your word
2008-01-05 09:45 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-01-05 09:45 < TheWeasel> I get timeouts, btw
2008-01-05 09:46 < HonestRecruiter_> like that?
2008-01-05 09:46 < TheWeasel> ah, fixed
2008-01-05 09:46 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-01-05 09:52 < bogdan> TheWeasel: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Edward_Steichen_-_Brancusi's_studio%2C_1920.jpeg -- et voilà!
2008-01-05 09:52 < TheWeasel> wow, sharp edges there
2008-01-05 09:55 < bogdan> I hope it's okay that some of the (unfinished) sculptures in the photo would have to be under copyright... :P
2008-01-05 09:59 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-05 10:08 < pengo> hmm
2008-01-05 10:08 < pengo> i spotted a diagram i'd made for wikipedia in a youtube video
2008-01-05 10:08 < pengo> and it's in a creationist video :/
2008-01-05 10:09 < bogdan> pengo: was it "a map of the world at its creation in 4004 BC"? :P
2008-01-05 10:10 < pengo> bogdan: nah, just the diagram at the top of [[species]]
2008-01-05 10:10 < bogdan> cool diagram :-)
2008-01-05 10:10 < pengo> he believes it starts at "families" and before that were the created "kinds"
2008-01-05 10:10 < pengo> thanks
2008-01-05 10:10 < pengo> i'd do it differently if i did it again
2008-01-05 10:12 < pengo> well not really cause i wouldn't know how to do it the way it'd want
2008-01-05 10:25 < Luna-San> Anybody with an idle Google Reader account sitting around might want to see this: http://fhonearth.blogspot.com/2007/12/google-reader-shares-private-data-ruins.html
2008-01-05 10:28 < lucasbfr> Luna-San: What I don't get is that I've checked my google Reader, and all my feeds are marked as being private... Maybe they switched back
2008-01-05 10:28 < Luna-San> Hmm, dunno. Obviously I'm late to the show.
2008-01-05 10:29 < lucasbfr> nope, I looked when it the news broke (well, 3-4 days later)
2008-01-05 10:37 < bogdan> << That deal would fail miserably is someday Google decided unilaterally to share your data with more people. For example, with all your Gmail contacts. Many people fear that this might happen someday, but they don't need to wait anymore as it has already happened. >>
2008-01-05 10:38 < bogdan> is this the "OMG! what if google will send to my wife all my love letters to my mistress?!?" kind of panic?
2008-01-05 10:39 < Retsbol> lucasbfr: the news only affects feeds already marked as shared
2008-01-05 10:39 < Retsbol> if you had shared feeds they would just now be shared with all your gmail contacts, rather than your private list in reader
2008-01-05 10:40 < Luna-San> Although "all your Gmail contacts" includes a lot of people, since the list is generated automagically.
2008-01-05 10:43 < White_Cat> bogdan
2008-01-05 10:44 < White_Cat> My mistress would love mail from my wife