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2008-01-04 18:44 < TheWeasel> but...that too of course :-D
2008-01-04 18:45 < TheWeasel> perhaps the other extreme then
2008-01-04 18:45 < phed> Luna-San, and singlehandedly converted norway to go beyond rational skepticism
2008-01-04 18:45 < Luna-San> LawrenceWCohen: The template magic for that wouldn't be too hard
2008-01-04 18:45 < Doc_glasgow> TheWeasel: no-one ever does that on wikipedia - we do self-righteous indignation not mea culpa
2008-01-04 18:45 < TheWeasel> That's why I use all my edit wars.
2008-01-04 18:45 < phed> Luna-San: Ie. he argues a model that prevents sciences from fighting each other, and rather co-exist
2008-01-04 18:45 < LawrenceWCohen> Beta: basically, the bot tagging would also drop the relevant images to a page like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Task_of_the_Day/Image_Project/January_10%2C_2007 each day, that rotates through AFD style to create a daily backlog. that gets linked each day from a Watchdetails page like this, non-dismissable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Task_of_the_Day/Example_Watchdetails_Image_Project
2008-01-04 18:45 < bishonen> phed, king Gustaf V of Sweden was famous for still groping his chauffeurs when he was 90
2008-01-04 18:45 < TheWeasel> Oh wait, I won one, against an EB1911 apologist
2008-01-04 18:45 < phed> bishonen, nice one
2008-01-04 18:45 < LawrenceWCohen> asking/begging everyone to do at least 5 per day
2008-01-04 18:45 < Luna-San> phed: Sounds like a swell guy, at that rate
2008-01-04 18:46 < TheWeasel> where EB1911 was demonstrably wrong
2008-01-04 18:46 < LawrenceWCohen> that's the whole entire eidea
2008-01-04 18:46 < LawrenceWCohen> *idea
2008-01-04 18:46 < LawrenceWCohen> if it works... other daily backlog tasks after March :)
2008-01-04 18:46 < bishonen> phed, hence the area "Kungens kurva", where they went in the ditch. :-)
2008-01-04 18:46 < phed> hehe :)
2008-01-04 18:46 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: why not just use categories?
2008-01-04 18:46 < bishonen> phed, where IKEA is now
2008-01-04 18:46 < phed> haha
2008-01-04 18:47 < Doc_glasgow> they have IKEA in Sweden already?
2008-01-04 18:47 < LawrenceWCohen> Beta: I thought about it but it may be too overwhelming to drop people into a queue of 60k images
2008-01-04 18:47 < bishonen> Doc_glasgow: building one
2008-01-04 18:47 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: I ment daily cats
2008-01-04 18:47 < TheWeasel> My TTS engine pronounces IKEA "icky"
2008-01-04 18:47 < LawrenceWCohen> beta if you can think of an easier way, I'm sure everyone will be all for it. OH! Daily cats would be easier, yeah.
2008-01-04 18:47 < LawrenceWCohen> whatever is easiest for the botters and everyone to read off after
2008-01-04 18:47 < Doc_glasgow> I used to love IKEA
2008-01-04 18:47 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: those exist already
2008-01-04 18:47 < Doc_glasgow> now I just take the kids in for a cheap lunch
2008-01-04 18:47 < TheWeasel> IKEA is still fun to pretend to shop
2008-01-04 18:48 < LawrenceWCohen> beta, link me?
2008-01-04 18:48 < LawrenceWCohen> (I never noticed them)
2008-01-04 18:48 < Doc_glasgow> I like their meatballs
2008-01-04 18:48 < TheWeasel> heh, way not to tourist oneself into the poorhouse!
2008-01-04 18:48 < bishonen> Doc_glasgow: so did Gustaf V.
2008-01-04 18:48 < TheWeasel> in Britain
2008-01-04 18:48 < TheWeasel> I'm sure they'd let you sleep on one of their couches if you ask nicely, too
2008-01-04 18:49 < Doc_glasgow> I have a house full of IKEA furniture, but only till I save up for some real stuff
2008-01-04 18:49 < bishonen> well, that fell flat.
2008-01-04 18:49 * bishonen weeps
2008-01-04 18:49 < LawrenceWCohen> I wish I could afford nothing but wood antique furtniture
2008-01-04 18:49 < LawrenceWCohen> could afford to do that, I mean.
2008-01-04 18:49 * TheWeasel saw a couple of nice but rather heftily priced things at Harrod's
2008-01-04 18:49 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: see the sub cats on [[Category:Disputed non-free images]]
2008-01-04 18:49 * Doc_glasgow offers bishonen a handkerchief
2008-01-04 18:49 < LawrenceWCohen> beta: thanks
2008-01-04 18:50 * bishonen blows nose forcefully, returns hanky
2008-01-04 18:50 * TheWeasel vows to become a Saudi sheikh when he's all grown
2008-01-04 18:50 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: those have been autogenerated for about a year now
2008-01-04 18:50 < LawrenceWCohen> beta: so the usual total deletion/clearing turn around for these cats is 7~ odd days?
2008-01-04 18:50 < TheWeasel> or maybe Dubai, they tend to chill more
2008-01-04 18:50 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: the minimum is seven days
2008-01-04 18:50 < LawrenceWCohen> beta: got it, this is better. this project will be a race.
2008-01-04 18:51 < LawrenceWCohen> beta: I'll post this as a better alternative. do all the tagged ones fall in here, including TW ones and all?
2008-01-04 18:51 < TheWeasel> customized Airbus A380 would be fun
2008-01-04 18:51 * ST47 waves
2008-01-04 18:51 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: yes
2008-01-04 18:51 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: Im somewhere around 55% done with my first massive sweep
2008-01-04 18:52 < Doc_glasgow> Does anyone know anything about baroque portraiture, I need a proof reader?
2008-01-04 18:52 < Reedy_Boy> TheWeasel, as a personal jet?
2008-01-04 18:52 < TheWeasel> Yea.
2008-01-04 18:52 < LawrenceWCohen> beta: er, we'd have to make [[WP:TODAY]] live fast then if it was accepted, wouldn't we? we are at t-minus 7 days then
2008-01-04 18:52 < LawrenceWCohen> for mass deletions
2008-01-04 18:52 < Betacommand> LawrenceWCohen: this has been going on for ~6 months already
2008-01-04 18:52 < TheWeasel> Mass deletion?
2008-01-04 18:53 < Betacommand> TheWeasel: non-free images
2008-01-04 18:53 < ST47> Do we really think that thousands of images will be checked per day?
2008-01-04 18:53 < ocee> is anyone good with diction, by any chance?
2008-01-04 18:53 < TheWeasel> m = e/c^2?
2008-01-04 18:54 < LawrenceWCohen> could we transclude the category contents under a page like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Task_of_the_Day/Image_Project/January_10%2C_2007 ? to give instructions on how to rescue valid images?
2008-01-04 18:54 < Betacommand> ST47: BCBot tagged 12k on the second
2008-01-04 18:54 < ocee> actually nvm, i'm all sorted ;)
2008-01-04 18:54 * ST47 was just going to query current stuff like that
2008-01-04 18:54 < LawrenceWCohen> ST47: I don't know, seems like a worthwhile effort
2008-01-04 18:55 < ST47> I wonder if it would be more effective or useful to, if we're going to use a watchlist queue thing, put up images that the bots can't deal with on their own
2008-01-04 18:55 < TheWeasel> Wow, the Airbus A380 can be turned into a damn zeppelin
2008-01-04 18:56 < TheWeasel> essentially a cruise ship in mid-air
2008-01-04 18:56 < ST47> That is, potentially orphaned fair use, or people who may be living, or that sort of thing
2008-01-04 18:57 < LawrenceWCohen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Task_of_the_Day/Image_Project/January_3%2C_2007 how do I make that display the category contents list below the included header (which needs to be made smaller)?
2008-01-04 19:02 < LawrenceWCohen> the reason I'm thinking of the include is so that an admin can manually rotate out the watchlist 1-2 times per day to always have the oldest clean up category with images still in it showing.
2008-01-04 19:02 < LawrenceWCohen> and to include our little header, to instruct rescuers on what to save, and how to do it
2008-01-04 19:03 < White_Cat> bishonen
2008-01-04 19:03 < White_Cat> I need a hug
2008-01-04 19:03 < White_Cat> preferably now
2008-01-04 19:04 * quanticle hugs White_Cat
2008-01-04 19:04 < White_Cat> quanticle but you cant feed me to bishzilla
2008-01-04 19:04 < White_Cat> I need bishzilla capable hug
2008-01-04 19:04 < quanticle> bishzilla?
2008-01-04 19:05 < White_Cat> quanticle the only thing that keeps me inline is bishzilla
2008-01-04 19:05 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles quanticle
2008-01-04 19:05 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat isnt that a breach of policy
2008-01-04 19:05 < White_Cat> you are not supposed to leave your hole on the ceiling
2008-01-04 19:13 < quanticle> White_Cat: I'm just that tall and handsome
2008-01-04 19:13 < Giggy> :P
2008-01-04 19:13 * Pilotguy hopes bishzilla will not go away
2008-01-04 19:14 < Giggy> Pilotguy, with bishonen gone who will control Bishzilla?
2008-01-04 19:14 < Pilotguy> :'(
2008-01-04 19:16 * gurch huggles bishonen
2008-01-04 19:16 * Giggy huggles Pilotguy
2008-01-04 19:16 < Giggy> there there
2008-01-04 19:16 < kyevan> You know, the scary thing about Ceiling_Cat, is there IS a hole right above my desk
2008-01-04 19:17 < kyevan> Because the plastic thing that covered the light broke
2008-01-04 19:17 < White_Cat> kyevan
2008-01-04 19:17 < White_Cat> well
2008-01-04 19:17 < White_Cat> its a conspiracy
2008-01-04 19:18 < White_Cat> it broke because Ceiling_Cat made it happen
2008-01-04 19:18 < White_Cat> Giggy thats not the problem
2008-01-04 19:18 < White_Cat> with bishzilla out of control who will keep me in line?
2008-01-04 19:18 < Giggy> White_Cat, gurch will
2008-01-04 19:18 < White_Cat> Trolls cant control me
2008-01-04 19:19 < Giggy> Ooooh
2008-01-04 19:19 < Giggy> gurch ^
2008-01-04 19:19 < White_Cat> Giggy be careful with the next word you say. It may be the last one you say as King of Sparta.
2008-01-04 19:19 < kim_bruning> hello bishonen
2008-01-04 19:19 < White_Cat> This is maddness!
2008-01-04 19:20 < Phoenix-busy> hey! Sparta pinged me!
2008-01-04 19:20 * gurch would like to point out at this place that he is not a troll
2008-01-04 19:20 < kim_bruning> White_Cat, No, THIS. IS. SPARTA!
2008-01-04 19:20 < White_Cat> Phoenix-busy THIS IS SPARTAA!
2008-01-04 19:20 < kim_bruning> :-P
2008-01-04 19:20 < gurch> also
2008-01-04 19:20 < Phoenix-busy> AAH!
2008-01-04 19:20 < gurch> that is all.
2008-01-04 19:20 < kyevan> White_Cat: Actually, it broke because I'm a clutz.
2008-01-04 19:20 < Phoenix-busy> stop pinging me!
2008-01-04 19:20 < kim_bruning> hehehehehehe
2008-01-04 19:20 < kyevan> But anyway!
2008-01-04 19:20 < Rinn> Exactly what I want to hear whenever I enter a channel!
2008-01-04 19:20 < White_Cat> kyevan which was engraved to your genes by the ceiling cat
2008-01-04 19:20 * gurch huggles Rinn
2008-01-04 19:20 < kim_bruning> looks like several people were thinking the same thing at the same time
2008-01-04 19:20 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat manupilates DNA
2008-01-04 19:21 < White_Cat> kim_bruning there is a saying about like mind
2008-01-04 19:21 < White_Cat> s
2008-01-04 19:21 < kyevan> White_Cat: They're not very bright?
2008-01-04 19:21 * Rinn is squeezed to death and dies
2008-01-04 19:21 < Giggy> Is this sparta?
2008-01-04 19:21 < White_Cat> Giggy no
2008-01-04 19:21 < Phoenix-busy> stop pinging!
2008-01-04 19:22 < White_Cat> Spata is a copule of blocks away
2008-01-04 19:22 < Giggy> Sorry White_Cat
2008-01-04 19:22 < White_Cat> Phoenix-busy do not get pinged by it
2008-01-04 19:22 < FastLizard4> THIS IS WIIIIKIIIIPEEEDIAAA!
2008-01-04 19:22 < Phoenix-busy> >:-(
2008-01-04 19:22 * Giggy twalks a couple of blocks
2008-01-04 19:22 * Rinn pong
2008-01-04 19:22 * Giggy finds SPARTAAAAAA
2008-01-04 19:22 < Phoenix-busy> White_cat: I am, I stalk that word
2008-01-04 19:22 < White_Cat> dont
2008-01-04 19:22 < Phoenix-busy> STOP!
2008-01-04 19:22 < kim_bruning> So my current peeve is where people seem to think that Ignore All Rules does not actually mean that you should Ignore All Rules
2008-01-04 19:22 < Giggy> :P
2008-01-04 19:22 * kim_bruning mutters
2008-01-04 19:22 * FastLizard4 pings Phoenix-busy
2008-01-04 19:22 * Giggy huggles kim_bruning
2008-01-04 19:22 < Phoenix-busy> AAARRRGGGHHH!
2008-01-04 19:22 < White_Cat> kim_bruning wikipedia does not have rules
2008-01-04 19:22 * FastLizard4 requests CTCP version from Phoenix-busy
2008-01-04 19:23 < White_Cat> rules only inconvenience good users
2008-01-04 19:23 < White_Cat> bad ones
2008-01-04 19:23 < Phoenix-busy> >:-( this means war!
2008-01-04 19:23 < Rinn> I could finger you instead!
2008-01-04 19:23 < White_Cat> well they violate rules and get you banned for it
2008-01-04 19:23 < Giggy> ^_^
2008-01-04 19:23 < White_Cat> Phoenix-busy sure
2008-01-04 19:23 * FastLizard4 requests CTCP time from Phoenix-busy
2008-01-04 19:23 < Phoenix-busy> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Phoenix-wiki&namespace=&year=&month=-1
2008-01-04 19:23 < White_Cat> 300 of us can wipe an army full of you
2008-01-04 19:23 < kyevan> kim_bruning: The problem with Ignore All Rules is that, in a sense, it is itself a rule.
2008-01-04 19:23 < White_Cat> suprisingly we have near 300 people here
2008-01-04 19:23 < Phoenix-busy> it's local time, not CTCP time
2008-01-04 19:23 < kyevan> Thus by its own rule, you must ignore it!
2008-01-04 19:23 < FastLizard4> Well, I call it CTCP time
2008-01-04 19:24 < phed> omg!
2008-01-04 19:24 * FastLizard4 pongs Phoenix-busy
2008-01-04 19:24 < cimon> kim_bruning: rename it to Do the Right Thing ?
2008-01-04 19:24 < kyevan> CTCP time requests aren't always acurate.
2008-01-04 19:24 < desolator> hi everyone
2008-01-04 19:24 < White_Cat> cimon well
2008-01-04 19:24 < phed> an anonymous user has reverted 3 times :D
2008-01-04 19:24 < White_Cat> people feel pov pushing is the right way to go
2008-01-04 19:24 < desolator> i'm a bit drunk (and somewhat high)
2008-01-04 19:24 < phed> what do I do?
2008-01-04 19:24 < White_Cat> or revert war
2008-01-04 19:24 < Random832> phed: what page?
2008-01-04 19:24 < White_Cat> or call people names
2008-01-04 19:24 < desolator> but I'm seeing two penguins in Embedded Linux
2008-01-04 19:24 < White_Cat> make inflamatory comments
2008-01-04 19:24 < desolator> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_Linux
2008-01-04 19:24 < phed> Random832, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake
2008-01-04 19:24 < cimon> or throw tantrums
2008-01-04 19:24 < Random832> but, really, neither of you should be edit warring
2008-01-04 19:24 < White_Cat> insult bondage faries
2008-01-04 19:25 < kyevan> MOST of the wikipedia rules should really be called 'guidelines
2008-01-04 19:25 < desolator> I'm that high or there are two penguins in that article?
2008-01-04 19:25 < phed> oh wait, reverted 2 times + introduction. :S
2008-01-04 19:25 * FastLizard4 commences attacking Phoenix-busy with repeating pings and CTCPs
2008-01-04 19:25 < Random832> oh, you mean there are other people, not you and the ip
2008-01-04 19:25 < kyevan> But there are some rules that are harder than others.
2008-01-04 19:25 * phed experiences it for the first time so I suck at counting
2008-01-04 19:25 < White_Cat> kyevan like what?
2008-01-04 19:25 * Random832 sees two different IPs that don't look related, phed
2008-01-04 19:25 < White_Cat> civility?
2008-01-04 19:25 < Phoenix-busy> hey, watch that you don't get k-lined
2008-01-04 19:25 < White_Cat> we certainly dont want civility
2008-01-04 19:25 * FastLizard4 is done
2008-01-04 19:25 < cimon> desolator: there are more than two in the article on Jessica Alba, if you are into that kind of thing...
2008-01-04 19:25 < Phoenix-busy> ah, good
2008-01-04 19:25 < kim_bruning> cimon, Your suggestion interests me. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter . :-)
2008-01-04 19:25 < FastLizard4> Wow, 2.06 seconds...
2008-01-04 19:25 < Random832> thouh they are making the same edit
2008-01-04 19:25 < kyevan> White_Cat: Like "Don't stalk other users" and "don't post kiddie porn" >_>
2008-01-04 19:26 < kim_bruning> (as far as renaming to Do The Right Thing :-P )
2008-01-04 19:26 < desolator> nah I just do spray paint
2008-01-04 19:26 * FastLizard4 's lag is .06 seconds to freenode
2008-01-04 19:26 < White_Cat> kyevan dont stalk others?
2008-01-04 19:26 < White_Cat> that rule is near never enforced
2008-01-04 19:26 < cimon> kim_bruning: I thought you meant the penguins :D
2008-01-04 19:26 < kyevan> I was, um, mostly being silly there
2008-01-04 19:26 < White_Cat> posting kiddy porn vilates copyrights :P
2008-01-04 19:26 < kyevan> White_Cat: Not if you took it yourself!
2008-01-04 19:26 < White_Cat> that would make you a criminal
2008-01-04 19:26 < kyevan> (and release it under a decent license, and all.)
2008-01-04 19:27 < kyevan> So would just posting it.
2008-01-04 19:27 < White_Cat> under GTVA Deneb Convention, criminals are not allwed to edit wikipedia
2008-01-04 19:27 * FastLizard4 is drunk with administrator power
2008-01-04 19:27 < Random832> White_Cat: under the what?
2008-01-04 19:27 < desolator> * FastLizard4 is drunk with administrator power - can you do tons of irresponsable things in Wikipedia?
2008-01-04 19:27 * kyevan unplugs all the wikipedia servers
2008-01-04 19:27 < White_Cat> http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTVA_Colossus
2008-01-04 19:27 < FastLizard4> desolator: I am not a wikipedia admin
2008-01-04 19:28 < kyevan> Everyone's a criminal at some point :P
2008-01-04 19:28 < desolator> then you're not drunk.
2008-01-04 19:28 < FastLizard4> desolator: I am an admin on two wikias
2008-01-04 19:28 < kyevan> As long as one's not WikiFur.
2008-01-04 19:28 < kyevan> I know the founder of that, and it still scares me shitless.
2008-01-04 19:28 < phed> Random832: Well, it is weird the article is untouched for months but suddenly is edited by anons
2008-01-04 19:28 < FastLizard4> I am a wiki co-founder
2008-01-04 19:28 < desolator> me too man!
2008-01-04 19:28 < FastLizard4> Code snippets wikia
2008-01-04 19:28 < Phoenix-busy> me too!
2008-01-04 19:28 < Random832> FastLizard4: there's no such thing as co-founders!
2008-01-04 19:28 < desolator> in fact, I invented TCP/IP
2008-01-04 19:29 < FastLizard4> ...
2008-01-04 19:29 < Random832> there are only sole founders
2008-01-04 19:29 < Random832> you are a _sole_ founder
2008-01-04 19:29 < Random832> send the other guy into exile on citizendium or something
2008-01-04 19:29 < FastLizard4> desolator: If you invented TCP/IP, then explain what 127.0.0.1 does
2008-01-04 19:29 < desolator> and I'm going to become famous when I finish inventing my device that punches people thru standard TCP/IP
2008-01-04 19:29 < FastLizard4> Random832: I didn't found it, but I was one of the few users who were given crat status upon founding
2008-01-04 19:29 < Rinn> You and that guy on Bash, too!
2008-01-04 19:29 * Random832 is joking :P
2008-01-04 19:29 < pengo> 127.0.0.1 is desolator's personal IP address
2008-01-04 19:30 < FastLizard4> X-D
2008-01-04 19:30 < desolator> yeah please hack it.
2008-01-04 19:30 < kyevan> Citizendium is great!
2008-01-04 19:30 < White_Cat> kyevan I am a criminal for my passion to edit wikipedia
2008-01-04 19:30 < FastLizard4> desolator: You have no idea what 127.0.0.1 does, do you?
2008-01-04 19:30 < DerHexer> Good night.
2008-01-04 19:30 < White_Cat> I try to do something useful here
2008-01-04 19:30 < FastLizard4> Citizendium = thoughtcrime
2008-01-04 19:30 < desolator> it has candy inside. check ftp://127.0.0.1
2008-01-04 19:30 < White_Cat> and for that I must die
2008-01-04 19:30 < kyevan> FastLizard4: Wait. You mean it's not a spinoff from Un, or something?
2008-01-04 19:31 < FastLizard4> kyevan: No
2008-01-04 19:31 < desolator> FastLizard4, it's a warm place called home.
2008-01-04 19:31 < geniice> actualy it does have candy inside I think I droped it when I chanage something
2008-01-04 19:31 < FastLizard4> desolator: Do you know what ::0000:0000:001A is?
2008-01-04 19:31 < phed> Random832, anyway. the edit is unacceptable and I already raised the issue on the talk-page.
2008-01-04 19:32 < Random832> ok
2008-01-04 19:32 < kyevan> FastLizard4: I thought it would have to be, concidering how they seem to think Wikipedia is horribly inacurate :P
2008-01-04 19:32 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, you got me. what is ::0000:0000:001A ?
2008-01-04 19:32 < Rinn> Looks like some colons followed by zeroes and then another colon followed by more zeroes and then another colon and two zeroes and a one and an A.
2008-01-04 19:32 < kyevan> (I'm being silly, of course)
2008-01-04 19:32 < kim_bruning> are you missing some digits somewhere?
2008-01-04 19:32 < kyevan> FastLizard4: Why not just write it ::1A?
2008-01-04 19:32 < FastLizard4> It is an IPv6 address
2008-01-04 19:32 < FastLizard4> kyevan: True, I was confusing them
2008-01-04 19:32 < desolator> that would be ::::001A
2008-01-04 19:32 < FastLizard4> And, no, you would have to right it as ::001A
2008-01-04 19:33 < FastLizard4> desolator: No it wouldn't
2008-01-04 19:33 < desolator> hurm
2008-01-04 19:33 < desolator> you don't need the additional :?
2008-01-04 19:33 < nazgjunk> nope
2008-01-04 19:33 < nazgjunk> no place like ::1, et
2008-01-04 19:33 < nazgjunk> etc
2008-01-04 19:33 < FastLizard4> desolator: No, :: automatically makes it assume that all digits there are 0
2008-01-04 19:33 < Random832> phed: i reverted it again
2008-01-04 19:33 < desolator> hum that's new
2008-01-04 19:34 < FastLizard4> What is IPv6 loopback?
2008-01-04 19:34 < White_Cat> I want to hurt someone
2008-01-04 19:34 < desolator> I knew I would learn something from a drunk guy online :)))
2008-01-04 19:34 < White_Cat> I choose you Ceiling_Cat!
2008-01-04 19:34 < Starnestommy> ::1?
2008-01-04 19:34 < nazgjunk> iirc, yeah
2008-01-04 19:34 < phed> Random832, ty
2008-01-04 19:34 < kyevan> Citizendium is at least TRYING to do something right, though, so we can't blame them too much
2008-01-04 19:34 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, gottit. I'm Not much into IPv6.
2008-01-04 19:34 < FastLizard4> Aah, IPv6 loopback is ::1/128
2008-01-04 19:35 < pengo> how many cats do we have in this place?
2008-01-04 19:35 < desolator> then what's ::001A?
2008-01-04 19:35 < Pije> can someone please remove the endorsement by Don Black on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_presidential_campaign%2C_2008
2008-01-04 19:35 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, setting up an IPv6 network? :-)
2008-01-04 19:35 < FastLizard4> desolator: An IPv6 address
2008-01-04 19:35 < Pije> or at least find a legitimate reference
2008-01-04 19:35 < FastLizard4> kim_bruning: Yes
2008-01-04 19:35 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, have fun! Tell us how it went too! :-)
2008-01-04 19:35 < FastLizard4> desolator: Not loopback, though
2008-01-04 19:35 < Pije> the reference linked to is dead. and i don't think it even contained an endorsement to begin with
2008-01-04 19:35 < FastLizard4> ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff should be fun
2008-01-04 19:36 < FastLizard4> What about 2001:0db8:1234:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff ?
2008-01-04 19:36 < desolator> my eyes hurt
2008-01-04 19:36 * FastLizard4 realizes IPv6 is confusing
2008-01-04 19:36 < SNORLAX> Pije, http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-12-20-paul-donation_N.htm works for me
2008-01-04 19:36 < pengo> when did this become #IPv6-quiz
2008-01-04 19:36 < SNORLAX> fffff
2008-01-04 19:36 < desolator> why they didn't increased ip to 999.999.999.999 ? lol :D
2008-01-04 19:37 < pengo> ffff you all
2008-01-04 19:37 < FastLizard4> pengo: No such channel
2008-01-04 19:37 < Pije> ah. n/m. you can edit if you log in.
2008-01-04 19:37 < pengo> FastLizard4: try #wikipedia instead
2008-01-04 19:37 < FastLizard4> desolator: The highest IPv4 is 255.255.255.255
2008-01-04 19:37 < FastLizard4> pengo: I happen to be there
2008-01-04 19:37 < mavhk> that's his point
2008-01-04 19:37 < pengo> FastLizard4: great. then you can enjoy the quiz
2008-01-04 19:37 < desolator> yeah, but they should make an specification less complicated
2008-01-04 19:38 < FastLizard4> desolator: Is 999 divisible by 8?
2008-01-04 19:38 < desolator> no
2008-01-04 19:38 < FastLizard4> desolator: That's why it can't exist
2008-01-04 19:38 < Pije> snorlax: let me read it. i'll update the reference if appropriate.
2008-01-04 19:38 < FastLizard4> IPv6 introduces the 128-bit address
2008-01-04 19:38 < Pije> snorlax: again, no official endorsement
2008-01-04 19:39 < Pije> he donated money. that's it.
2008-01-04 19:39 < desolator> but 984 is
2008-01-04 19:39 < Pije> donation does not equal endorsement
2008-01-04 19:39 < desolator> ;)
2008-01-04 19:39 < FastLizard4> desolator: is 984 can be simplified in hex
2008-01-04 19:39 < FastLizard4> ...and since IPv4 is decimal...
2008-01-04 19:39 < pengo> umm
2008-01-04 19:39 < desolator> FastLizard4, can you imagine not having a place to store all the IP addresses of a local network and you have to configure a router
2008-01-04 19:39 < pengo> ipv4 is binary when it's in a packet
2008-01-04 19:40 < desolator> and the router only works with IPv6 for some weird reason!
2008-01-04 19:40 < pengo> 4 bytes are used for the addresses
2008-01-04 19:40 < FastLizard4> pengo: Everything is binary when processed
2008-01-04 19:40 < kim_bruning> desolator, ffff is a simpler number than 9999
2008-01-04 19:40 < kim_bruning> desolator, at least, when you look at it from a computer perspective
2008-01-04 19:40 < FastLizard4> desolator: Haha, I do that every day
2008-01-04 19:40 < desolator> you internet people make my head hurt :(
2008-01-04 19:40 < kim_bruning> desolator, an f is 1111 in binary
2008-01-04 19:40 < pengo> we need a new internet people
2008-01-04 19:40 < kim_bruning> desolator, whilst a 9 is 1011
2008-01-04 19:40 < FastLizard4> ...wait until IPv9 comes out :-P
2008-01-04 19:40 < pengo> and 1 is 1.
2008-01-04 19:41 < kim_bruning> desolator, so I could send 1011101110111011 down the line
2008-01-04 19:41 < desolator> what happened to IPv5?
2008-01-04 19:41 < kim_bruning> desolator, or I could just send 1111111111111111
2008-01-04 19:41 < FastLizard4> desolator: Who the hell knows
2008-01-04 19:41 < kim_bruning> desolator, which is simpler? :-P
2008-01-04 19:41 < kim_bruning> urk, 9 is 1001 of course
2008-01-04 19:42 < desolator> kim_bruning, that's binary :S
2008-01-04 19:42 < kim_bruning> so 10011001100110011001
2008-01-04 19:42 < kim_bruning> desolator, yes
2008-01-04 19:42 < FastLizard4> damn, 128 bit binary is going to be hard to learn...
2008-01-04 19:42 < kim_bruning> desolator, and converting between hex and binary is easy
2008-01-04 19:42 < kim_bruning> between decimal and binary less so
2008-01-04 19:42 < desolator> kim_bruning, that's an unique ability you have.
2008-01-04 19:42 < mavhk> what percentage of the galaxy will we need to colonise before we'll need more than ipv6?
2008-01-04 19:42 < pengo> desolator: [[IPv5]]
2008-01-04 19:43 < desolator> you're reading this on binary or hex kim_bruning ? lol
2008-01-04 19:43 < kim_bruning> desolator, but in the end, everything needs to be binary
2008-01-04 19:43 < kim_bruning> desolator, I always read stuff in hex :-)
2008-01-04 19:43 < kim_bruning> binary is too tricky
2008-01-04 19:43 < Luna-San> desolator: The computer understands binary very well, but if want to reliably read and understand 128 dits and dats, good luck.
2008-01-04 19:43 < FastLizard4> Let me get by binary-hex converter out
2008-01-04 19:43 < Luna-San> *if you
2008-01-04 19:44 < Luna-San> At least we don't use octal much, anymore
2008-01-04 19:44 < kim_bruning> besides, stuff like c001babe is easier to write in hex ;-) (the binary equivalent is 1100 0000 0000 0001 1011 1010 1011 1110 :-P )
2008-01-04 19:44 < FastLizard4> ::0000 is a non-existent IPv6 address
2008-01-04 19:44 < desolator> thank goodness for DNS
2008-01-04 19:44 < FastLizard4> desolator: Imagine if there was no DNS
2008-01-04 19:44 < desolator> with IPv6.
2008-01-04 19:44 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, you just need to memorize a table with 16 items.... (or you don't even need to memorize, since you can derive it from scratch in like 20 seconds)
2008-01-04 19:44 < pengo> imagine no religion
2008-01-04 19:44 < FastLizard4> desolator: Huh, do you think you could memorize IPv4 addresses?
2008-01-04 19:45 < desolator> yeah
2008-01-04 19:45 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, binary<->hex conversion is fast :-)
2008-01-04 19:45 < desolator> I know all the IPs of my lan :)
2008-01-04 19:45 < kim_bruning> desolator, 10.0.0.1, 10.0.0.2, 10.0.0.3? ;-)
2008-01-04 19:45 < FastLizard4> desolator: Then what's 255.255.255.255?
2008-01-04 19:45 < Luna-San> pengo: !DNS == !religion, I think
2008-01-04 19:45 < desolator> 192.168.0/24
2008-01-04 19:45 < kim_bruning> (or 192.168.0.1 , 192.168.0.2, ...)
2008-01-04 19:45 < pengo> Luna-San: and religion != heaven.. but it was still a beatles song, ok?
2008-01-04 19:45 < kim_bruning> ah yes :-)
2008-01-04 19:45 < FastLizard4> Aah
2008-01-04 19:45 < FastLizard4> You need that many addresses?!
2008-01-04 19:46 < desolator> yeah
2008-01-04 19:46 < Luna-San> pengo: But how could my soul find heaven without knowing the IP? :{
2008-01-04 19:46 < FastLizard4> That would mean you have at least 24 devices on your network
2008-01-04 19:46 < desolator> lol
2008-01-04 19:46 < Ceiling_Cat> Luna-San - metaphysical DNS?
2008-01-04 19:46 < FastLizard4> ...
2008-01-04 19:46 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, eh?
2008-01-04 19:46 < Luna-San> Hmm.
2008-01-04 19:46 < desolator> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_subnetting_reference
2008-01-04 19:46 < desolator> ;)
2008-01-04 19:47 < kim_bruning> a /24 can have 254 devices iirc :-P
2008-01-04 19:47 < kim_bruning> or am I silly?
2008-01-04 19:47 < desolator> yes
2008-01-04 19:47 < desolator> the 254 part :D
2008-01-04 19:47 < FastLizard4> oh
2008-01-04 19:47 < FastLizard4> that's right
2008-01-04 19:47 < FastLizard4> My mind is still not in hex mode
2008-01-04 19:47 < pengo> Luna-San: heaven uses a proprietary network separate from the internet
2008-01-04 19:47 < kim_bruning> it's 24 bits. :-P
2008-01-04 19:47 * kim_bruning whacks FastLizard4's mind into hex mode
2008-01-04 19:47 < FastLizard4> pengo: Is that how I hacked into it?
2008-01-04 19:47 < kim_bruning> actually I wonder if IPv4 could be written in hex more often
2008-01-04 19:48 < FastLizard4> kim_bruning: Over complicated
2008-01-04 19:48 < Luna-San> pengo: Probably more secure, that way. St Pete would get quite embarassed if he lost all his records to script kiddies.
2008-01-04 19:48 * Ceiling_Cat whacks FastLizard4's mind into octal
2008-01-04 19:48 < FastLizard4> However, hex is good with IPv6
2008-01-04 19:48 < desolator> if you multiply 256*2 = /25 (512), 512*2 = /26 (1024) and so on ;)
2008-01-04 19:48 < pengo> Luna-San: it's just been around longer than the internet and they got stuck with a novell system
2008-01-04 19:48 * FastLizard4 whacks Ceiling_Cat's mind into binary
2008-01-04 19:48 < kim_bruning> C0.A8.0.1
2008-01-04 19:48 < desolator> er
2008-01-04 19:48 < kim_bruning> C0.A8.0.2
2008-01-04 19:48 < kim_bruning> etc
2008-01-04 19:48 < desolator> backwards
2008-01-04 19:49 < FastLizard4> pengo: Does heaven obey the RFCs?
2008-01-04 19:49 < desolator> ./23, /22
2008-01-04 19:49 < pengo> FastLizard4: heaven is above RFCs
2008-01-04 19:49 * kim_bruning thinks C0A8 0001 is easier to remember than 192.168.0.1
2008-01-04 19:49 < kim_bruning> or is it just me?
2008-01-04 19:49 < Luna-San> Heaven has been on a good fiber connection since Genesis.
2008-01-04 19:49 < Luna-San> "Let there be light," he said.
2008-01-04 19:50 < FastLizard4> I like numbers better than hex
2008-01-04 19:50 < Messedrocker> kim_bruning, the latter is easier for me but i've been working with the likes of that for a long time
2008-01-04 19:50 < kim_bruning> (even though "Coab" is a nonsense word)
2008-01-04 19:50 < pengo> Hell is much more standards compliant, and has open wireless access.
2008-01-04 19:50 < FastLizard4> Luna-San: Glass fiber or poly-fiber?
2008-01-04 19:50 < FastLizard4> pengo: If that is true, everyone would want to go to hell
2008-01-04 19:50 < Luna-San> Good question. I'd have to consult the religious scholars on that.
2008-01-04 19:51 < pengo> FastLizard4: bingo
2008-01-04 19:51 * FastLizard4 likes free wireless internet
2008-01-04 19:51 < kim_bruning> desolator, I actually just remember that /24 says how many bits are masked out of 32 . 32-24=8
2008-01-04 19:51 < Luna-San> I'm used to the current IPv4 look, but it surely wouldn't work for 4 times as much data.
2008-01-04 19:51 < kim_bruning> and you can make 256 addresses with 8 bits
2008-01-04 19:51 < FastLizard4> I'll bet heaven has parental controls, and hell dosen't too
2008-01-04 19:51 < desolator> kim_bruning, I always have my wikipedia cheat sheet :)
2008-01-04 19:51 < kim_bruning> but 2 of those are reserved , leaving 254
2008-01-04 19:51 < TheWeasel> Is it ok to start sentences with "Also, ..."?
2008-01-04 19:52 < FastLizard4> TheWeasel: yes
2008-01-04 19:52 < kim_bruning> desolator, I suck at maths, so I just count bits :-P
2008-01-04 19:52 * kim_bruning snickers
2008-01-04 19:52 < TheWeasel> I don't like it, but it's a gut feeling
2008-01-04 19:52 < FastLizard4> TheWeasel: Although it is better to say "In addition..."
2008-01-04 19:52 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-04 19:52 * FastLizard4 's wisdom tooth extraction is starting to swell
2008-01-04 19:54 * TheWeasel tries to beat his descriptivistly-spoilt youth
2008-01-04 19:54 < FastLizard4> Let's see what my current IPv6 address is...
2008-01-04 19:54 < FastLizard4> Command Prompt, I choose you!
2008-01-04 19:55 * TheWeasel vaguely feels that is a Pokémon reference
2008-01-04 19:55 < TheWeasel> or Yu-Gi-Oh
2008-01-04 19:55 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, ifconfig :-P
2008-01-04 19:55 * FastLizard4 's IPv6 address is fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5
2008-01-04 19:56 < kim_bruning> %5?
2008-01-04 19:56 < FastLizard4> I'm using pseudo-IPv6 IPv4 tunneling
2008-01-04 19:56 < Luna-San> So the :: fills in with 0's?
2008-01-04 19:56 < FastLizard4> The %5 indicates that I am using tunneling
2008-01-04 19:56 < FastLizard4> Luna-San: Yes
2008-01-04 19:56 < kyevan> I'm stuck in IPv4-only land (AKA the USA)
2008-01-04 19:56 < kim_bruning> I got me IPv6 support too
2008-01-04 19:56 < FastLizard4> kyevan: I am too
2008-01-04 19:56 * kim_bruning wonders if it actually works to ping another box
2008-01-04 19:56 < FastLizard4> I have the Windows XP IPv6 developer package
2008-01-04 19:56 < kyevan> Oh, my software supports it.
2008-01-04 19:56 < FastLizard4> Windows Vista has IPv6 built in
2008-01-04 19:57 < kyevan> XP does too, IIRC.
2008-01-04 19:57 < kyevan> (Dun think it's enabled by default, though)
2008-01-04 19:57 < Luna-San> Hmm. If it's only saving one character, it seems easier to just use a 0.
2008-01-04 19:57 < FastLizard4> Right, but to get it in XP, you have to get the Developer Package
2008-01-04 19:57 < Luna-San> But at some point that might be worth it. ;)
2008-01-04 19:57 < kim_bruning> they kim # ping6 "fe80::20c:f6ff:fe20:f121"
2008-01-04 19:57 < kim_bruning> connect: Invalid argument
2008-01-04 19:57 < kyevan> FastLizard4: Or have some other app enable it :P
2008-01-04 19:57 * kim_bruning scratches head
2008-01-04 19:57 < TheWeasel> kim_bruning: You weren't even arguing
2008-01-04 19:58 < FastLizard4> kyevan: No, you have to get the developer package
2008-01-04 19:58 < FastLizard4> However, the package is built in if you have Service Pack 2
2008-01-04 19:58 < kyevan> fe80::20c:f6ff:fe20:f121 expands to fe80:0000:020c:f6ff:fe20:f121, doesn't it?
2008-01-04 19:58 < kyevan> FastLizard4: Aah.
2008-01-04 19:58 < kyevan> And anyone who's not running SP2 deserves to die :P
2008-01-04 19:59 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, :-P
2008-01-04 19:59 < FastLizard4> You simply type: "netsh interface ipv6 install" into command prompt and reboot
2008-01-04 20:00 < TheWeasel> they should rewrite it "connect:Logical fallacy"
2008-01-04 20:00 < kim_bruning> ping6 "fe80::215:58ff:fe66:3f77/64"
2008-01-04 20:00 < kim_bruning> unknown host
2008-01-04 20:00 < kim_bruning> mutter
2008-01-04 20:00 < FastLizard4> Try pinging fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab
2008-01-04 20:00 < kim_bruning> that's your own reported IPv6 address, you silly I$@$*DWODIWD
2008-01-04 20:01 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, unknown host also
2008-01-04 20:01 < FastLizard4> probably the wrong address
2008-01-04 20:01 < kyevan> FastLizard4: I never had to do that when I had tunnelling set up whenever ago...
2008-01-04 20:01 < kim_bruning> maybe I still need to set ipv6 routing?
2008-01-04 20:01 < kyevan> Also, /me grows at crappy routers with no v6 capabilities.
2008-01-04 20:01 < FastLizard4> First, you must have ipv6 installed on your PC
2008-01-04 20:02 < kim_bruning> do I need to do something extra to get IPv6 to work?
2008-01-04 20:02 < kyevan> All my boxes support IPv6, and they can't see eachother >_>
2008-01-04 20:02 < kim_bruning> like some sort of routing?
2008-01-04 20:02 < White_Cat> why wold you want to use PIv6?
2008-01-04 20:02 < FastLizard4> Try pinging one of these: fe80::5efe:192.168.1.47%2, fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5, fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%4
2008-01-04 20:02 < kim_bruning> White_Cat, short term: fun
2008-01-04 20:02 < White_Cat> kim_bruning you have a $cal(256*256*256*256) sized network?
2008-01-04 20:03 < White_Cat> ack
2008-01-04 20:03 < FastLizard4> White_Cat: IPv6 is the future of the internet
2008-01-04 20:03 < kim_bruning> White_Cat, long term: enough addresses at least (IPv4 tends to run out)
2008-01-04 20:03 < White_Cat> kim_bruning you have a 256*256*256*256 = 4294967296 sized network?
2008-01-04 20:03 < kim_bruning> White_Cat, I don't :-P
2008-01-04 20:03 < FastLizard4> Try pinging one of these: fe80::5efe:192.168.1.47%2, fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5, fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%4, they all belong to me
2008-01-04 20:03 < White_Cat> 4,294,967,296
2008-01-04 20:03 < FastLizard4> *with the percent signs*
2008-01-04 20:03 < quanticle> FastLizard4: What's the IPv6 version of 127.0.0.1?
2008-01-04 20:03 < FastLizard4> quanticle: It's the range ::1/128
2008-01-04 20:03 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, all those return unknown host
2008-01-04 20:04 < FastLizard4> hmm...
2008-01-04 20:04 < FastLizard4> can you ping my v4 address
2008-01-04 20:04 < FastLizard4> which is...
2008-01-04 20:04 * FastLizard4 reopens cmd prompt
2008-01-04 20:04 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, ping6 "::1/128"
2008-01-04 20:04 < kim_bruning> unknown host
2008-01-04 20:04 < pengo> The IPv6 loopback address is: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
2008-01-04 20:04 < FastLizard4> 192.168.1.47
2008-01-04 20:04 < kim_bruning> clearly I need to do some rerouting? :-P
2008-01-04 20:04 < FastLizard4> Pengo, no it isn't
2008-01-04 20:04 < pengo> (or more simply, ::1)
2008-01-04 20:04 < FastLizard4> pengo: It is the range ::1/128
2008-01-04 20:05 < kyevan> FastLizard4: Yes, but ::1 is the one most people use
2008-01-04 20:05 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, I get a reply from ::1 , not from ::1/128 :-/
2008-01-04 20:05 < kyevan> because ping6 doesn't support ranges >_>
2008-01-04 20:05 < kim_bruning> ah, ok
2008-01-04 20:05 < FastLizard4> right, you can't ping ranges
2008-01-04 20:05 < kyevan> ::1/128 isn't an address
2008-01-04 20:05 < kim_bruning> but how come I can't ping my own ipv6 addy?
2008-01-04 20:05 < quanticle> kyevan: No, its a range.
2008-01-04 20:05 < kyevan> it's a range of addresses, ::1, ::2, ::3, ::4...
2008-01-04 20:05 < quanticle> kyevan: Try ping6 ::1 if you're on Linux
2008-01-04 20:05 < kyevan> quanticle: Let me finish typeing :P
2008-01-04 20:06 < quanticle> kyevan: Learn to type faster...
2008-01-04 20:06 * White_Cat takes out a rifle
2008-01-04 20:06 < kyevan> I slow horribly when I hit symbols.
2008-01-04 20:06 < kim_bruning> ping6::2 gives me network is unreachable
2008-01-04 20:06 * White_Cat wacks kim_bruning with it
2008-01-04 20:06 < kyevan> kim_bruning: That's weird...
2008-01-04 20:06 < FastLizard4> I get a response pinging fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab
2008-01-04 20:06 < White_Cat> rifles are mere high tech clubs!
2008-01-04 20:06 < kim_bruning> wait
2008-01-04 20:06 < kim_bruning> unknown host?
2008-01-04 20:06 < quanticle> FastLizard4: What ISP do you use?
2008-01-04 20:07 < FastLizard4> quanticle: Verizon
2008-01-04 20:07 < kim_bruning> doesn't that mean that it's trying a host lookup?
2008-01-04 20:07 < quanticle> FastLizard4: When I try pingin that address, I get "Network is Unreachable"
2008-01-04 20:07 * kim_bruning looks puzzled
2008-01-04 20:07 < FastLizard4> fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab?
2008-01-04 20:07 < FastLizard4> I get a response:
2008-01-04 20:07 < FastLizard4> PING6 TRANSCRIPT:
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Pinging fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> from fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5 with 32 bytes of data:
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Reply from fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5: bytes=32 time<1ms
2008-01-04 20:08 < kim_bruning> ping6 "fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab"
2008-01-04 20:08 < kim_bruning> connect: Invalid argument
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Reply from fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5: bytes=32 time<1ms
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Reply from fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5: bytes=32 time<1ms
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Reply from fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5: bytes=32 time<1ms
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Ping statistics for fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab:
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
2008-01-04 20:08 * kim_bruning kerpuzzled
2008-01-04 20:08 < kim_bruning> I guess I don't have something configured correctly
2008-01-04 20:08 < quanticle> kim_bruning: Yeah, I get that too, but I can ping6 ::1 just fune
2008-01-04 20:08 < quanticle> *fine
2008-01-04 20:08 < FastLizard4> kim_bruning: Type "netsh interface ipv6 install" into command prompt and reboot your PC
2008-01-04 20:09 * White_Cat uses kim_bruning
2008-01-04 20:09 * White_Cat abuses kim_bruning
2008-01-04 20:09 * White_Cat throws kim_bruning away just like everything else
2008-01-04 20:09 < quanticle> FastLizard4: That's Windows, right?
2008-01-04 20:09 * kyevan facepalms
2008-01-04 20:09 < FastLizard4> quanticle: Affirmative
2008-01-04 20:09 < kyevan> I suppose it would help if I issued commands to the right computer...
2008-01-04 20:09 * quanticle wonders how you do it on Linux
2008-01-04 20:09 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, bash: netsh: command not found
2008-01-04 20:09 < kyevan> (The dangers of SSH!)
2008-01-04 20:10 < FastLizard4> Windows, people!
2008-01-04 20:10 < kim_bruning> FastLizard4, (just to be sure, I didn't actually provide arguments :-P )
2008-01-04 20:10 < quanticle> kim_bruning: Heh, you're on Linux like me
2008-01-04 20:10 < FastLizard4> Not linux!