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2008-01-04 13:17 < Cometstyles> nope they go "OMG where is my jacket" :O
2008-01-04 13:18 < quanticle> Pb30: What do you mean? You could write a page creator script...
2008-01-04 13:18 < quanticle> Pb30: There's no API for batch page creation IIRC
2008-01-04 13:20 < Pilotguy> cows make good leather seats
2008-01-04 13:20 < Pb30> can AWB or another tool do it?
2008-01-04 13:20 < quanticle> Pilotguy: Leather seats are cold
2008-01-04 13:20 < TheWeasel> A tsunami alert has been issued after a magnitude 8.2 earthquake hit Indonesia at 11:10AM GMT. A 9 foot tsunami has already been reported in Sumatra. For local tsunami arrival times see NOAA
2008-01-04 13:20 < jasoncalacanis> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,320005,00.html
2008-01-04 13:21 < Pilotguy> quanticle- That's why you get heated seats too ;)
2008-01-04 13:21 < Pilotguy> I've actually found them to be quite warm in my car. I guess the sunroof takes care of that
2008-01-04 13:22 < quanticle> Pilotguy: I guess you don't live in Minnesota, do you?
2008-01-04 13:22 < Pilotguy> quanticle- Oh, no wonder
2008-01-04 13:22 < quanticle> Pilotguy: Our family has leather seats in one of its cars, every time I get in, my ass freezes
2008-01-04 13:22 < Pilotguy> heh
2008-01-04 13:23 < Pilotguy> You need to get 'em heated
2008-01-04 13:23 < quanticle> Pilotguy: Heh. That'd be cool
2008-01-04 13:23 < quanticle> Or hot rather
2008-01-04 13:23 < Pilotguy> ;)
2008-01-04 13:23 < Demi> i much prefer leather seats
2008-01-04 13:23 < Demi> vinyl gets way too hot in the sun
2008-01-04 13:24 < Demi> and cloth seats stick to whatever is covering your butt
2008-01-04 13:24 < Demi> which makes it too hard to slide about freely
2008-01-04 13:24 < justlee> why would you want to slide about freely?
2008-01-04 13:24 < Demi> to find the most comfortable position, and to reposition for doing things inside the car, and for sliding in and out of the seat
2008-01-04 13:25 < Demi> for example, to turn your legs to the door
2008-01-04 13:25 < justlee> i prefer cloth for the same reason you dislike it
2008-01-04 13:26 < quanticle> Demi: Minnesota creates a no-win situation as far as seats are concerned. Leather is horribly cold, while cloth seats cause you to build up horrible amounts of static charge...
2008-01-04 13:26 < Pilotguy> Minnesota weather tends to usck
2008-01-04 13:26 < quanticle> Pilotguy: I hear that
2008-01-04 13:26 < Demi> well, we have heated seats
2008-01-04 13:26 < yao_ziyua1> remember yesterday's sex doll + ugly woman idea?
2008-01-04 13:26 < quanticle> Demi: bastard
2008-01-04 13:27 < quanticle> yao_ziyua1: No, and no, I don't want to hear more about it
2008-01-04 13:27 < Demi> quanticle - mind you, it takes some time for them to warm up
2008-01-04 13:27 < yao_ziyua1> i spammed 20+ top google-ranked sex toy businesses about that idea
2008-01-04 13:27 < yao_ziyua1> that's the spirit!
2008-01-04 13:27 * Pilotguy sighs
2008-01-04 13:28 < quanticle> Demi: I start my car up 15 min. before I leave for work anyway, to allow the heater to warm up and the ice to melt
2008-01-04 13:28 < Demi> right
2008-01-04 13:28 * yao_ziyua1 is really a badass
2008-01-04 13:28 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-01-04 13:28 < Demi> hi bumm13
2008-01-04 13:28 < Demi> bumm13 - i am on "standby" to drive to california, the weather here has been something else
2008-01-04 13:29 < yao_ziyua1> you think i'm too extreme?
2008-01-04 13:29 < bumm13> it's getting bad down south
2008-01-04 13:29 < yao_ziyua1> the founder of the republic of china made 11 uprisings
2008-01-04 13:29 < bumm13> a system is going to slam California this weekend through Monday
2008-01-04 13:29 < yao_ziyua1> only the last one finally succeeded
2008-01-04 13:30 < bumm13> I was checking out the weather in the Bay Area and they're already getting a lot of rain
2008-01-04 13:31 < quanticle> bumm13: LA is also getting a lot of rain, oddly enough...
2008-01-04 13:31 < bumm13> yes
2008-01-04 13:32 < bumm13> it's a weird system
2008-01-04 13:32 < quanticle> bumm13: LA was always hot and dry when I lived there, so 12 inches of rain is somewhat shocking
2008-01-04 13:32 < bumm13> a low-pressure spot is hovering in the Pacific and causing (at least part of) the jet stream to head well south of its normal latitudes on the west coast
2008-01-04 13:32 < bumm13> and bringing a lot of moisture to California
2008-01-04 13:33 < bumm13> quanticle: yeah, this isn't normal :)
2008-01-04 13:33 < TheWeasel> it's dry and fairly cold here
2008-01-04 13:33 * Pilotguy would rather take rain than being without power for 15 hours in 30 F weather
2008-01-04 13:33 < TheWeasel> 20 F
2008-01-04 13:33 < Demi> our power was out most of the night
2008-01-04 13:33 < TheWeasel> wow
2008-01-04 13:34 < bumm13> Pilotguy: last month, much of western Washington was without power in 40s F weather for a week
2008-01-04 13:34 * TheWeasel hasn't lived through a power outage forever here
2008-01-04 13:34 < Pilotguy> Yeah, I've been down that road before
2008-01-04 13:34 < Pilotguy> In 2002
2008-01-04 13:34 < TheWeasel> it used to happen a lot when I was living out East
2008-01-04 13:34 < TheWeasel> around '95
2008-01-04 13:34 < bumm13> it's been a long time since I experienced a long outage
2008-01-04 13:34 < Demi> we get a few a year here
2008-01-04 13:34 < bumm13> (I think 2000, maybe)
2008-01-04 13:34 < Demi> this was a very windy storm
2008-01-04 13:35 < bumm13> as bad as the wind was here a month ago, we never lost power
2008-01-04 13:35 * TheWeasel once was in an elevator while electricity was out in Turkey
2008-01-04 13:35 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Are the power lines over there underground or something?
2008-01-04 13:35 < Demi> several branches from a neighbor's tree ended up in my yard, the largest was probably ten feet long, 6 inches across or so
2008-01-04 13:35 < TheWeasel> mostly not
2008-01-04 13:35 < bumm13> Demi: arg
2008-01-04 13:35 < Demi> that's a little over a decimeter to you europeans
2008-01-04 13:35 < TheWeasel> oh, here in mid city they tend to be
2008-01-04 13:35 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Our powerlines go down all the time over here due to ice storms and the like
2008-01-04 13:36 < TheWeasel> yea, we don't have storms that often, it's more often bitter cold and dry
2008-01-04 13:36 < quanticle> Though the outage is usually only for a couple of hours as the crews get the lines back up
2008-01-04 13:36 < Demi> our power outages are actually more common in the summer
2008-01-04 13:36 < Demi> from thunderstorms
2008-01-04 13:36 < bumm13> ah
2008-01-04 13:36 < bumm13> we never get many of those this far north
2008-01-04 13:36 < TheWeasel> neither
2008-01-04 13:37 < TheWeasel> but when we do, they tend to be pretty ferocious
2008-01-04 13:37 < bumm13> western Wash. and Oregon have among the least amount of thunderstorms in the U.S.
2008-01-04 13:37 < TheWeasel> I remember being sent home for a storm last February or so
2008-01-04 13:37 < TheWeasel> from college
2008-01-04 13:38 < Pilotguy> TheWeasel- hmm
2008-01-04 13:38 < Phoenix-wiki> XD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_condoms_really_safe_in_preventing_HIV_%26_other_sexually_transmitted_microorganism%3F_NO%21_Find_out_the_facts_and_scientific_truth%21_Human_lives_are_concerned%21]
2008-01-04 13:38 < quanticle> bumm13: Though, oddly enough, those two states get the most rain in the contiguous US
2008-01-04 13:38 < Pilotguy> Our doems have generators
2008-01-04 13:38 < Pilotguy> dorms that is
2008-01-04 13:38 < TheWeasel> that was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrill_(storm)
2008-01-04 13:38 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Was the storm that fierce?
2008-01-04 13:38 < TheWeasel> add the right bracket
2008-01-04 13:38 < TheWeasel> yes
2008-01-04 13:38 < TheWeasel> it was
2008-01-04 13:39 < TheWeasel> probably the closest we ever got to a mid-sized tropical storm
2008-01-04 13:39 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Oh. I remember hearing about that. Its the storm for which the Storm worm is named
2008-01-04 13:39 < CMoreschi> Phoenix-wiki: hmm...an essay, but surprisingly high-quality
2008-01-04 13:40 < Phoenix-wiki> yeah, I prod2ed it
2008-01-04 13:40 < Phoenix-wiki> so there are two prod2s on it
2008-01-04 13:40 < Phoenix-wiki> and one prod 1
2008-01-04 13:40 < TheWeasel> was fairly fierce, but I was further inland so casualties were rather mild round here
2008-01-04 13:40 < TheWeasel> mostly people who tried to drive home from work too late
2008-01-04 13:40 < TheWeasel> hit by a tree
2008-01-04 13:41 < TheWeasel> much worse in Britain and the Netherlands
2008-01-04 13:41 < bumm13> quanticle: WA and OR get a lot of rain west of the Cascades, but it's rather steady rain
2008-01-04 13:41 < bumm13> and doesn't usually go on for long periods of time
2008-01-04 13:42 < bumm13> it's just consistent ;)
2008-01-04 13:42 < quanticle> bumm13: Isn't it nearly always cloudy over there?
2008-01-04 13:42 < quanticle> Rather like London
2008-01-04 13:42 < bumm13> thunderstorms are more the product of warmer air meeting cooler air suddenly
2008-01-04 13:42 < bumm13> quanticle: yeah, a bit like London
2008-01-04 13:42 < bumm13> cloudy a lot
2008-01-04 13:43 < TheWeasel> Berlin tends to be cold/hot and dry but it's raining a lot more than it used to these days
2008-01-04 13:43 < quanticle> Seattle: London of the West?
2008-01-04 13:43 < bumm13> heh, smaller though
2008-01-04 13:43 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-04 13:43 < bumm13> London has a famous clock tower, Seattle has a "futuristic" tower
2008-01-04 13:43 < NotACow> a famous cock tower?
2008-01-04 13:43 < bumm13> õ<
2008-01-04 13:44 < Demi> The town I live in has been referred to as "the Venice of the West" which makes no damn sense whatsoever.
2008-01-04 13:44 < bumm13> lol
2008-01-04 13:44 < TheWeasel> London is big on tea, Seattle is big on coffee
2008-01-04 13:44 < bumm13> it ain't got any canals!
2008-01-04 13:44 < bumm13> TheWeasel: yeah
2008-01-04 13:44 < quanticle> Demi: Which town is that?
2008-01-04 13:44 < Demi> bumm13 - I know
2008-01-04 13:44 * TheWeasel 's country is called Athens-on-the-Spree
2008-01-04 13:44 < TheWeasel> *city
2008-01-04 13:44 < Aqwis> :D
2008-01-04 13:44 < Demi> It's not like anywhere in the world besides Venice is laid out like Venice, though
2008-01-04 13:44 < TheWeasel> for what, I'm unable to speculate
2008-01-04 13:44 < Demi> quanticle - Ashland, Oregon
2008-01-04 13:45 < bumm13> no city can be the "Venice" of anything without canals :P
2008-01-04 13:45 < Demi> bumm13 - What Shakespeare play was in Venice?
2008-01-04 13:45 < Demi> Oh!
2008-01-04 13:45 < bumm13> Merchant of Venice?
2008-01-04 13:45 < quanticle> The Merchant of Venice
2008-01-04 13:45 < Demi> The Merchant of Venice, duh
2008-01-04 13:45 < bumm13> :)
2008-01-04 13:45 < bumm13> I even knew that ;)
2008-01-04 13:45 < Demi> yeah, they perform that here, so you know, maybe that's it
2008-01-04 13:45 < bumm13> haha
2008-01-04 13:45 < bumm13> and never any other plays, of course ;)
2008-01-04 13:46 < Demi> We're also the Verona of the West
2008-01-04 13:46 < quanticle> Now what the hell does that mean?
2008-01-04 13:46 * bumm13 isn't sure where the real Verona is
2008-01-04 13:46 < quanticle> bumm13: Verona is a town in italy
2008-01-04 13:46 < bumm13> did The Knack sing about Verona? ;)
2008-01-04 13:46 < bumm13> ah
2008-01-04 13:46 < Demi> And the Elsinore of the West!
2008-01-04 13:46 < quanticle> bumm13: its the setting for romeo and juliet
2008-01-04 13:46 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-01-04 13:46 < Aqwis> west of Venice
2008-01-04 13:47 < TheWeasel> And the uh... Forest of Arden of the West
2008-01-04 13:47 * bumm13 must be near the Black Forest of the West somehow
2008-01-04 13:47 < TheWeasel> bumm13: Conspicuous absence of cuckoo clocks.
2008-01-04 13:47 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-04 13:47 < gwern> isn't elsinore already in the west?
2008-01-04 13:47 < bumm13> our house has a cuckoo clock
2008-01-04 13:48 < quanticle> Where is Elsinore?
2008-01-04 13:48 < TheWeasel> Elsinore = Helsingor
2008-01-04 13:48 * gwern visits NYC, the NYC of the West!
2008-01-04 13:48 < TheWeasel> eastern Denmark
2008-01-04 13:48 < gwern> quanticle: a place where there is something rotten
2008-01-04 13:48 < bumm13> interesting
2008-01-04 13:48 < bumm13> Lake Elsinore is a city in California
2008-01-04 13:48 < Demi> Oh, I have this book (which is where I got "Venice of the West" from, though I also dreamed that), about old Highway 99. In it are some really funny boosterisms about Oregon cities
2008-01-04 13:48 * TheWeasel lives in the Irkutsk of the West
2008-01-04 13:48 < bumm13> Demi: sounds interesting
2008-01-04 13:48 < Demi> Helsingborg/Elsinore or whatever overlooks the Kattegat, or however you spell that
2008-01-04 13:48 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Ah, also where is Koenigsberg (sp?)
2008-01-04 13:49 < TheWeasel> people were sent here because they'd made themselves unpopular
2008-01-04 13:49 < gwern> germany, no?
2008-01-04 13:49 < bumm13> Washington has done much to "obliterate" its Highway 99 heritage
2008-01-04 13:49 < TheWeasel> quanticle: Russian exclave between Poland and Lithuania
2008-01-04 13:49 < Aqwis> we have a city called "Venice of Norway"
2008-01-04 13:49 < quanticle> gwern: I couldn't find it on a map of Germany
2008-01-04 13:49 < TheWeasel> German in bygone times
2008-01-04 13:49 < Aqwis> but that's not exactly true =/ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Drammen
2008-01-04 13:49 < Demi> Here's one: "Seattle is a Mecca for pleasure and recreation. The city's infant mortality rate is 37 per thousand births."
2008-01-04 13:49 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Ah. What's its modern name?
2008-01-04 13:49 < TheWeasel> Kaliningrad
2008-01-04 13:49 < bumm13> yeah, Kaliningrad
2008-01-04 13:49 < bumm13> (these days)
2008-01-04 13:49 < gwern> didn't euler do famous graph theory work about Koeningsberg?
2008-01-04 13:49 < TheWeasel> yes
2008-01-04 13:50 < bumm13> the tiny remnant of former Prussian glory ;)
2008-01-04 13:50 < TheWeasel> Kant did his thinking there
2008-01-04 13:50 < quanticle> gwern: That's actually why I was looking for the city
2008-01-04 13:50 < gwern> proving that the circuit of the 8 bridges or whatever of koeningsberg was impossible, iirc
2008-01-04 13:50 < TheWeasel> Seriously, Konigsberg must be horribly run down
2008-01-04 13:50 < Demi> "Aurora: It is a beautiful little town with wonderful artesian water and unlimited electric power. We have a prosperous and growing pickle factory."
2008-01-04 13:50 < TheWeasel> Let's start a naming convention war!
2008-01-04 13:50 < Aqwis> i heard they replaced the cathedral with a soviet HQ :p
2008-01-04 13:50 < bumm13> pickle factory, heh
2008-01-04 13:51 < TheWeasel> Demi: A city guide once tried to sell local pickled cucumber to me
2008-01-04 13:51 < gwern> swell
2008-01-04 13:51 < bumm13> o.o
2008-01-04 13:51 < TheWeasel> that was probably the most interesting part of the tour
2008-01-04 13:51 < quanticle> Demi: Are they organic pickles?
2008-01-04 13:51 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Did you buy?
2008-01-04 13:51 < TheWeasel> I did not
2008-01-04 13:51 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-01-04 13:51 < bumm13> Demi: if you look at [[U.S. Route 99]] , the Washington section with all the street names is my work :)
2008-01-04 13:52 < TheWeasel> that was a small town northwest of Hamburg
2008-01-04 13:52 < Demi> "Salem: When you visit Salem, you can truthfully say, 'I am now in the center of the largest long fiber flax growing district in the United States.' You will find in or near the city the eight state institutions and you may visit them all, even the penitentiary to which tourists are welcome, temporarily."
2008-01-04 13:52 < bumm13> (via some source)
2008-01-04 13:52 < Demi> bumm13 - nice
2008-01-04 13:52 < bumm13> lol
2008-01-04 13:52 < bumm13> the state pen of Oregon
2008-01-04 13:52 < TheWeasel> Demi: All you have to do to "visit" is to DUI
2008-01-04 13:52 < quanticle> Demi: I like how it says that tourists are welcome "temporarily"
2008-01-04 13:52 < Demi> And the pithy slogan, which really gets you going: "Salem, Capital City of Oregon."
2008-01-04 13:52 < bumm13> \o/
2008-01-04 13:52 < bumm13> Salem has grown a lot
2008-01-04 13:53 < Demi> "Junction City: We welcome new settlers. Junction City has a live-wire Chamber of Commerce."
2008-01-04 13:53 < quanticle> Is there anything worth seeing in Oregon?
2008-01-04 13:53 < bumm13> it's close enough to Portland for commuting purposes
2008-01-04 13:53 < TheWeasel> As I've said before, I hate slogans that go "in the heart of" or "the gateway to"
2008-01-04 13:53 < Demi> quanticle - Oh, sure
2008-01-04 13:53 < bumm13> live-wire?
2008-01-04 13:53 < TheWeasel> Even worse is "the gateway to the heart of..."
2008-01-04 13:53 < Demi> bumm13 - maybe they have some of that "unlimited electric power" like Aurora.
2008-01-04 13:53 * Aqwis lives in the "gateway to the fjords of norway"
2008-01-04 13:53 < bumm13> heh
2008-01-04 13:53 < quanticle> TheWeasel: I don't mind "In the Heart of", but "Gateway to" really gets me
2008-01-04 13:54 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-01-04 13:54 < bumm13> my hometown may as well be "Gateway to lots of swampy areas"
2008-01-04 13:54 < Demi> quanticle - Crater Lake, the Columbia River Gorge, the Oregon coast and Oregon dunes usually figure fairly high on people's lists; I don't know what appeals to you
2008-01-04 13:54 < quanticle> TheWeasel: St. Louis: Gateway to the West. The city is so run down, that its hard to imagine anyone actually stopping there
2008-01-04 13:54 < rindolf> Hi all!
2008-01-04 13:54 < TheWeasel> Thats a gateway to clear ASAP
2008-01-04 13:54 < bumm13> hi
2008-01-04 13:54 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-01-04 13:54 < quanticle> Demi: Yeah. I'd like to see Crater Lake sometime
2008-01-04 13:54 < rindolf> I added http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPClipart - now I'd like to add citations? But how?
2008-01-04 13:55 < Demi> quanticle - It's really pretty awesome
2008-01-04 13:55 * bumm13 has not seen Crater Lake
2008-01-04 13:55 < quanticle> bumm13: Do you live there?
2008-01-04 13:55 < bumm13> then again, I've not been up on Mt. St. Helens and its damn close :P
2008-01-04 13:55 < quanticle> In Oregon, I mean
2008-01-04 13:55 < bumm13> no
2008-01-04 13:55 < bumm13> I live in Washington
2008-01-04 13:55 * Glaudge hates liberals
2008-01-04 13:55 < bumm13> and they hate Glaudge
2008-01-04 13:55 < TheWeasel> I especially hate it when a puny area is appended
2008-01-04 13:56 * quanticle wonders what Oregon and Washington have to do with liberals or Glaudge
2008-01-04 13:56 < TheWeasel> like "the heart of southwest Nebraska"
2008-01-04 13:56 < bumm13> heehee
2008-01-04 13:56 < bumm13> southwest Nebraska
2008-01-04 13:56 < TheWeasel> or even "the hub"
2008-01-04 13:56 < bumm13> yay Chadron
2008-01-04 13:56 < quanticle> TheWeasel: I don't know. SW Nebraska is pretty huge by European standards
2008-01-04 13:56 < bumm13> only in area
2008-01-04 13:56 < Demi> TheWeasel - Medford used to describe itself (before The Pear City) as the gateway to Crater Lake
2008-01-04 13:56 < quanticle> In the Heart of SW Luxembourg?
2008-01-04 13:56 < Demi> or maybe afterward
2008-01-04 13:56 < TheWeasel> no, I mean something by most standards uninviting
2008-01-04 13:56 < Demi> I don't know what it is now
2008-01-04 13:57 < bumm13> most of Nebraska suffers from rural white flight
2008-01-04 13:57 < TheWeasel> or "the heart of Steelworking Country"
2008-01-04 13:57 < quanticle> bumm13: What is rural white flight?
2008-01-04 13:57 < bumm13> people leaving agricultural areas for big cities
2008-01-04 13:57 < bumm13> (so they can find actual work)
2008-01-04 13:57 < quanticle> TheWeasel: I didn't know steelworking was country. I thought it was an occupation. :)
2008-01-04 13:57 < quanticle> bumm13: So who replaces them?
2008-01-04 13:58 < TheWeasel> Well, where steelworking is centred
2008-01-04 13:58 < bumm13> Mexicans
2008-01-04 13:58 < bumm13> (seriously)
2008-01-04 13:58 < Demi> quanticle - they do very well in the hammer-toss, come the olympics
2008-01-04 13:58 < TheWeasel> like in parts of western Germany
2008-01-04 13:58 < quanticle> Or NE US
2008-01-04 13:58 < quanticle> aka the Rust Belt
2008-01-04 13:58 < bumm13> the Plains states now have a decent Hispanic population
2008-01-04 13:58 < Demi> Mexicans and central Americans employed or subcontracted by ADM et al, likely
2008-01-04 13:58 < TheWeasel> yea, central PA
2008-01-04 13:58 < bumm13> probably not just ADM
2008-01-04 13:59 < Demi> I put in an et al
2008-01-04 13:59 < quanticle> bumm13: Yeah. I rather like it though. Brings a touch of diversity to the otherwise snow-white human landscape
2008-01-04 13:59 < bumm13> a lot of the Mexican migrants work in meat-packing facilities
2008-01-04 13:59 < gwern> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Stallman&curid=4499628&diff=181559119&oldid=179852997 <-- I always find these sorts of things *very* confusing. How the heck are you supposed to deal with primary sources that first appear on WP talk pages?
2008-01-04 13:59 < bumm13> quanticle: sure
2008-01-04 14:00 < Phoenix-wiki> Is there anyone here who knows who I can get the same text typed out a number of times only changing a few words each time?
2008-01-04 14:01 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - do you mean "how I can get"?
2008-01-04 14:01 < Phoenix-wiki> yes
2008-01-04 14:01 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - changing words how?
2008-01-04 14:02 < Phoenix-wiki> I have to have the same thing typed out for each african country
2008-01-04 14:02 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: What specifically do you want, and what language are you using to script this?
2008-01-04 14:02 < Phoenix-wiki> so the name needs to change, and that occurs a few times
2008-01-04 14:02 < Phoenix-wiki> quanticle: It's mediawiki
2008-01-04 14:02 < Phoenix-wiki> for a wikiproject template
2008-01-04 14:02 < gwern> hee hee. sounds like Phoenix-wiki is going to experience the joys of MW templates
2008-01-04 14:03 * Phoenix-wiki already has, but nevefr something on this scale
2008-01-04 14:03 < gwern> 'Media Wiki Templates. Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.'
2008-01-04 14:03 < Phoenix-wiki> LOL!
2008-01-04 14:03 < Xihix> So, the fundraising is finally over?
2008-01-04 14:03 < quanticle> Oh. Well, I was going to suggest a Perl or Python script to write out the text, and then copy/paste the text into the article
2008-01-04 14:04 < Phoenix-wiki> well I don't know any programing languages, so can some here do it?
2008-01-04 14:04 < TheWeasel> oh, WP merch is channelled through cafepress
2008-01-04 14:04 < Phoenix-wiki> so noone can?
2008-01-04 14:04 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Is that a problem
2008-01-04 14:04 < bumm13> maybe if you pay them ;)
2008-01-04 14:05 < Phoenix-wiki> heh
2008-01-04 14:05 < TheWeasel> no, just didn't know
2008-01-04 14:05 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: Well, I'm at work now. Send me an e-mail with what you need and I'll see what I can do
2008-01-04 14:05 < Phoenix-wiki> oh, thanks
2008-01-04 14:05 < gwern> TheWeasel: I like the monkeys t-shirt myself. I bought one a while ago
2008-01-04 14:05 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: You have my mail?
2008-01-04 14:05 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - what is it about what you want that isn't suited to a template?
2008-01-04 14:05 < Phoenix-wiki> Special:Emailuser
2008-01-04 14:06 < TheWeasel> I'm still browsing
2008-01-04 14:06 < quanticle> Ok, cool
2008-01-04 14:06 < Phoenix-wiki> Demi: It is a template, what do you mean?
2008-01-04 14:06 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - Why can't you just... do it that way?
2008-01-04 14:06 < quanticle> Demi: He wants to generate a bunch of boilerplate pages for African countries
2008-01-04 14:07 < quanticle> So how do you change the country name automatically?
2008-01-04 14:07 < Phoenix-wiki> Demi: What way? I have to type out about 30 lines of text over 200 times
2008-01-04 14:07 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - why?
2008-01-04 14:07 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - why wouldn't you use a template?
2008-01-04 14:07 < Sfan00> Seen gurch?
2008-01-04 14:07 < Phoenix-wiki> quanticle: It's just one template, for WP:AFRICA and it's gonna have task forces
2008-01-04 14:07 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: Not necessarily. You could copy/paste the text, and then do a find/replace on the words
2008-01-04 14:07 < Phoenix-wiki> yes, I've done a few that way but it still takes ages...
2008-01-04 14:08 < Phoenix-wiki> some script would be good
2008-01-04 14:08 < Demi> You mean in {{boilerplate|Algeria}} you want to save yourself typing "{{boilerplate|" and "}}"?
2008-01-04 14:08 < Phoenix-wiki> quanticle: You didn't set your email adress
2008-01-04 14:08 < Demi> you want a bot to add the template to a set of articles, you mean?
2008-01-04 14:08 < Phoenix-wiki> Demi: I haven't got a clue what you're talking about, or where you got those ideas
2008-01-04 14:09 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - Why wouldn't you use a template?
2008-01-04 14:09 < Phoenix-wiki> I am *making* the template
2008-01-04 14:09 < NotACow> DEATH TO TEMPLATES
2008-01-04 14:09 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: Then why do you have to write out the same text over and over?
2008-01-04 14:10 < Phoenix-wiki> for various task forces per contry
2008-01-04 14:11 < Jacques611> Easy question: what is the channel for help on wikipedia?
2008-01-04 14:11 < Aqwis> #wikipedia-en-help
2008-01-04 14:11 < Jacques611> thanks
2008-01-04 14:13 < Demi> Phoenix-wiki - you have some kind of table which shows which task forces correspond to which country, and you want to add that to the country articles?
2008-01-04 14:13 < quanticle> Phoenix-Wiki: Why don't you make a template that includes other templates?
2008-01-04 14:13 < Phoenix-wiki> I'd still jhave to do this
2008-01-04 14:14 < Phoenix-wiki> Demi: I don't know anything about WP:AFRICA, they just asked me to make their template after I made the WP:HIST one
2008-01-04 14:15 < gigo> hi
2008-01-04 14:15 < bumm13> hi
2008-01-04 14:15 < gigo> what is the channel to discuss about the wikipedia based search engine?
2008-01-04 14:16 < gigo> has it been launched, if yes, where can I visit it?
2008-01-04 14:16 < Aqwis> this is not the channel you are looking for
2008-01-04 14:16 < bumm13> I don't think there's a specific IRC channel for it
2008-01-04 14:16 < bumm13> at least that I'm aware of
2008-01-04 14:16 < Demi> i think you mean the wiki-based search engine, which is a wikia thing
2008-01-04 14:16 < Phoenix-wiki> quanticle: You've got mail, a huge email
2008-01-04 14:16 < Aqwis> http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,877155,00.html :<
2008-01-04 14:16 < quanticle> Aqwis: I told him to come and ask for the channel here
2008-01-04 14:16 < Aqwis> oh
2008-01-04 14:17 < quanticle> Aqwis: There isn't an irc channel for the wikia search engine? i find that a little bit odd
2008-01-04 14:17 < Aqwis> how about #wikia?
2008-01-04 14:17 < gigo> wikia.com is a wiki software for opening groups, right?
2008-01-04 14:17 < Phoenix-wiki> no, not that
2008-01-04 14:18 < gigo> i saw one fc.wikia.com where there is a group of free software contributors from india
2008-01-04 14:18 < Phoenix-wiki> yeah, you can ask in #wikia
2008-01-04 14:18 < ron4pron> Now this is the story all about how My Caucus got flipped, turned upside down And Id like to take a minute and rest my bones Ill tell you how I became the delegate of a town called Des Moines
2008-01-04 14:18 < Aqwis> please no, ron4pron
2008-01-04 14:19 < Leslie_S> so i might be getting a store security job at walmart
2008-01-04 14:19 < Leslie_S> :D
2008-01-04 14:19 < Aqwis> that's too slashdoty for my taste =/
2008-01-04 14:19 < Aqwis> security job?
2008-01-04 14:19 < Aqwis> odd
2008-01-04 14:19 < Leslie_S> Aqwis, odd, why?
2008-01-04 14:19 < Aqwis> *shrug*
2008-01-04 14:19 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Heh. Bustin' shoplifters?
2008-01-04 14:19 < Leslie_S> quanticle, yp.
2008-01-04 14:20 < Leslie_S> the job primarily consists of walking around in plain clothes, watching people.
2008-01-04 14:20 < Leslie_S> and its a 40 hour a week job.
2008-01-04 14:20 < Leslie_S> and i imagine it pays more than i make now.
2008-01-04 14:21 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Nice. What do you do currently?
2008-01-04 14:22 < Leslie_S> quanticle, i stock shelves at the store
2008-01-04 14:22 < Demi> quanticle - i think she monitors the meat inventory to make sure no english speakers get tainted meat.
2008-01-04 14:22 < Leslie_S> Demi, ROFl
2008-01-04 14:23 < Phoenix-wiki> XD
2008-01-04 14:23 < Phoenix-wiki> Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried:
2008-01-04 14:23 < Phoenix-wiki> XLR8TION (talk · contribs) was banned for a week by Nishkid64 (talk · contribs) [1] Also, see the see Wikiquette alert. [2]
2008-01-04 14:24 < bumm13> :D
2008-01-04 14:24 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: What's all the celebration about?
2008-01-04 14:25 < Phoenix-wiki> it's hilareous
2008-01-04 14:25 * quanticle doesn't get it
2008-01-04 14:25 < Phoenix-wiki> Confirmation that other steps in *dispute* *resolution* have been tried: XLR8TION (talk · contribs) was *banned* for a week by Nishkid64 (talk · contribs) [1] Also, see the see Wikiquette alert. [2]
2008-01-04 14:26 < bumm13> shoot first, ask questions later :)
2008-01-04 14:26 < Phoenix-wiki> heh
2008-01-04 14:30 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: So you're trying to make a template for each working group? Can't you have templates that output templates?
2008-01-04 14:31 < Phoenix-wiki> yes, I could, but I'd still need to do the exact same thing
2008-01-04 14:31 * gwern looks forward to reading online about Leslie_S trying to detain suspected shoplifters
2008-01-04 14:31 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: No you wouldn't. You'd have a template which, given a name, outputs the correct template for the country
2008-01-04 14:32 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: You'd create the meta-template once, and call it with different country names
2008-01-04 14:32 < Phoenix-wiki> yes, but it requires all the parametres
2008-01-04 14:33 < Phoenix-wiki> quanticle: Could you please just do it?
2008-01-04 14:34 < Phoenix-wiki> and mail it back
2008-01-04 14:36 < Scarian_> Ugh... I have made yet another error...
2008-01-04 14:37 < quanticle> Phoenix-wiki: Yeah. I'll do it. I'll probably just write the script and use it to create a text file with all your templates
2008-01-04 14:37 < Phoenix-wiki> thanks
2008-01-04 14:38 < Scarian_> lucasbfr: I have made another error with an AfD.
2008-01-04 14:38 < lucasbfr> Scarian_: I'm listening :)
2008-01-04 14:38 < Scarian_> [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aquaria (band)]]
2008-01-04 14:38 < Phoenix-wiki> looking
2008-01-04 14:38 < Scarian_> I had good reasons for listing it... and a user found some sources to correct the balance...
2008-01-04 14:38 < Scarian_> But I didn't check to see if it had been listed before...
2008-01-04 14:38 < Scarian_> And it had.
2008-01-04 14:39 < Scarian_> And so now the article IS notable (after they had to dig) but I never listed it as a 2nd time AfD.
2008-01-04 14:39 < quanticle> Scarian_: Can't you strike the other listing as well?
2008-01-04 14:40 < TheWeasel> We have no articles on Combinats?
2008-01-04 14:40 < Scarian_> quanticle: Sorry... strike what listing?
2008-01-04 14:40 < Scarian_> quanticle: Oh no... it's been listed before and was a keep.
2008-01-04 14:40 < Scarian_> But I didn't check it's talk page like I should have.
2008-01-04 14:40 < quanticle> Scarian_: Oh. Ok, well that's different...
2008-01-04 14:41 < quanticle> We really should have more automated safeguards to prevent those sorts of things
2008-01-04 14:41 < Scarian_> quanticle: I think that's the last time I'm going to list an AfD for a while. It's been a bad day.
2008-01-04 14:42 < Scarian_> :P
2008-01-04 14:44 < Scarian_> lucasbfr: Would you be able to close it for me if you're not busy, please friend?
2008-01-04 14:50 < bumm13> hiya Messedrocker
2008-01-04 14:51 < Sfan00> MessedRocker?
2008-01-04 14:52 < Messedrocker> hi
2008-01-04 14:53 < Messedrocker> hello doctor glasgow, i seek forgiveness
2008-01-04 14:53 < White_Cat> Messedrocker I forgive you
2008-01-04 14:53 < White_Cat> on the condition...
2008-01-04 14:54 < Doc_glasgow> Messedrocker: I try to deal in issues, not personalities, so I'm not much good at the grudge thing. Anyway, I admire the rare trait of a wikipedian who says sorry :)
2008-01-04 14:54 < White_Cat> how about a big hug?
2008-01-04 14:54 * Scarian_ is upset that no one wants to hug him...
2008-01-04 14:54 * Messedrocker hugz
2008-01-04 14:54 < White_Cat> Doc_glasgow you and I hadnt been involved in a dispute
2008-01-04 14:54 < White_Cat> can we still hug?
2008-01-04 14:55 < Doc_glasgow> you can, you will have to guess as to whether I reciprocate ;)
2008-01-04 14:55 * Farosdaughter huggles Scarian_
2008-01-04 14:56 * Scarian_ is rather happy.
2008-01-04 14:56 < Scarian_> Farosdaughter: Thank you. Thank you *so* much.
2008-01-04 14:57 < Farosdaughter> :)
2008-01-04 15:01 < bumm13> Rawk on man!
2008-01-04 15:02 < Drunken_Idiot> Honey I am home
2008-01-04 15:03 < Fabexplosive> heya Drunken_Idiot
2008-01-04 15:03 < Drunken_Idiot> Hello Fabexplosive HUgs
2008-01-04 15:03 * Fabexplosive is huggled
2008-01-04 15:04 < Drunken_Idiot> I can kiss too Italian way :D
2008-01-04 15:04 < bumm13> wow, they made a Vectrex version of LOGO :x
2008-01-04 15:04 < Drunken_Idiot> Hi bumm13
2008-01-04 15:06 < Sfan00> bumm13: Why ever not?
2008-01-04 15:07 < Sfan00> Isn't logog related to Schme and LISP anyway?
2008-01-04 15:07 < Sfan00> *Logo?
2008-01-04 15:07 < lucasbfr> Scarian_: I closed it, sorry :)
2008-01-04 15:08 < Drunken_Idiot> Hello Sfan00
2008-01-04 15:08 < lucasbfr> Scarian_: note that you could close it yourself, if you're sure of the procedure
2008-01-04 15:08 < Sfan00> Hello Druken-Idiot, I've been hearing some stuff about you
2008-01-04 15:10 * MessedRawker is Dr. Mario
2008-01-04 15:10 * MessedRawker flings pills at people
2008-01-04 15:12 < quanticle> Sfan00: Like what?
2008-01-04 15:12 < Sfan00> qunaticle: Stuff that cannot be disscussed on an open channel
2008-01-04 15:12 < Glaudge> PILLZ!
2008-01-04 15:12 < Glaudge> OXYCOTTON
2008-01-04 15:12 < Drunken_Idiot> Sfan00: :)
2008-01-04 15:12 < Scarian_> lucasbrf: Thanks! I'm not sure of the procedure. But thank you anyway :)
2008-01-04 15:13 < quanticle> Glaudge: Painkilling cloth?
2008-01-04 15:14 < Glaudge> pillz
2008-01-04 15:14 < quanticle> Glaudge: You mean oxyCONTIN?
2008-01-04 15:14 < TheWeasel> "Palmyra Atoll, is an incorporated atoll administered by the United States government."
2008-01-04 15:14 < TheWeasel> Another ugly comma
2008-01-04 15:14 < TheWeasel> is it correct?
2008-01-04 15:14 < quanticle> TheWeasel: No
2008-01-04 15:14 < TheWeasel> It looks wrong to me
2008-01-04 15:15 < TheWeasel> thanks, I'm seeing it all the time
2008-01-04 15:15 < Scarian_> Definitely wrong TheWeasel
2008-01-04 15:15 < TheWeasel> but a popular error I think
2008-01-04 15:15 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Yes. Even I am guilty of it on occasion
2008-01-04 15:15 < TheWeasel> right
2008-01-04 15:16 < TheWeasel> Just asking because English tends to have many commas where there would be none in German
2008-01-04 15:16 * quanticle is wondering whether to skip lunch
2008-01-04 15:16 < quanticle> Its already 2:00 pm over here
2008-01-04 15:16 < quanticle> Well, past 2 actually
2008-01-04 15:17 < Scarian_> quanticle: If you skip lunch you won't be able to edit Wikipedia as efficiently.
2008-01-04 15:17 < Sfan00> Eat Boy, Eat !
2008-01-04 15:17 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-01-04 15:17 < Scarian_> Think of the commas you may accidentally add in to TheWeasel's disgust!
2008-01-04 15:17 * TheWeasel isn't disgusted, just puzzled
2008-01-04 15:18 < Scarian_> I know. I have poor communicative skills. My apologies.
2008-01-04 15:18 < quanticle> Scarian_: People on #wikipedia don't *actually* edit wikipedia, we just talk about it. We also talk about the drama that ensues when others edit WP... :)
2008-01-04 15:18 < TheWeasel> there are many non-standard but acceptable things in Englis
2008-01-04 15:18 < TheWeasel> *h
2008-01-04 15:18 < TheWeasel> it's fine
2008-01-04 15:18 * TheWeasel avoids talking about drama and just edited
2008-01-04 15:18 < Scarian_> quanticle: How about the admin roll back button for the masses?
2008-01-04 15:18 < Retsbol> what is the point of [[Main Page/1]] thru [[Main Page/10]]?
2008-01-04 15:18 < Sfan00> Englis?
2008-01-04 15:18 < OldakQuill> Math question: I want to work out what value something would have now if I know the value it had in 1980 and that there is 5% annual interest. Forget about inflation
2008-01-04 15:18 < Scarian_> Sfan00: It's this new way of spelling "English"... apparently...
2008-01-04 15:19 < quanticle> Sfan00: He corrected himself...
2008-01-04 15:19 < OldakQuill> Obviously there's a long way of doing it - but could anyone tell me how to quickly calculate that?
2008-01-04 15:19 < Sfan00> OladoakQuill: Compound or simple?
2008-01-04 15:19 < Retsbol> OldakQuill: multiply by 1.05^28
2008-01-04 15:19 < Retsbol> alright Sfan00 you smartarse, i assumed compound :p
2008-01-04 15:20 < quanticle> Retsbol: Continuous compounding?
2008-01-04 15:20 < SpringOfNations2> hmm, I didn't know there was also a [[Y-chromosomal Adam]]
2008-01-04 15:20 < OldakQuill> But would 1.05^28 take into account the increasing value of 1.05 over the years
2008-01-04 15:20 < OldakQuill> In 1990 5% would be a lot more than in 1980 because the staring value in 1990 is greater than that in 1980
2008-01-04 15:21 < Retsbol> if it is a simple credit of 5% of the balance each year, then yes
2008-01-04 15:21 < OldakQuill> Ok, thank you.
2008-01-04 15:21 < Retsbol> the second year, you gain 1.05 * what you finished with the first year
2008-01-04 15:22 < Retsbol> which is 1.05 * what you started with
2008-01-04 15:22 < Scarian_> TheWeasel: Do you know anywhere where I can the German Metal chart history?
2008-01-04 15:22 < Retsbol> hence each year is just another multiple of 1.05
2008-01-04 15:22 < OldakQuill> Right
2008-01-04 15:22 < Scarian_> *I can find
2008-01-04 15:22 < Retsbol> anyway
2008-01-04 15:22 < Retsbol> what is the point of [[Main Page/1]] thru [[Main Page/10]]?
2008-01-04 15:22 < TheWeasel> nope, sorry :-)
2008-01-04 15:22 < Mike_H> Scarian_: http://wikinewsreports.blogspot.com/2008/01/wikinews-asks-reader-which-top-model-do.html
2008-01-04 15:22 < quanticle> OldakQuill: Pe^(rt)
2008-01-04 15:22 < TheWeasel> not into that, really
2008-01-04 15:22 < TheWeasel> don't even know whether they keep track
2008-01-04 15:22 < OldakQuill> Ok, thanks
2008-01-04 15:23 < Scarian_> Mike_H: Is that you Mike?!
2008-01-04 15:23 < quanticle> OldakQuill: That assumes continuous compounding...
2008-01-04 15:23 < OldakQuill> yeah, I think continuous compounding is what I mean
2008-01-04 15:23 * TheWeasel caught cold :-/
2008-01-04 15:23 < quanticle> TheWeasel: That's unfortunate
2008-01-04 15:23 < Mike_H> Scarian_: Yes :D
2008-01-04 15:24 < TheWeasel> ay, merry, tis.
2008-01-04 15:24 * quanticle makes chicken soup for TheWeasel
2008-01-04 15:24 < TheWeasel> thanks pal
2008-01-04 15:24 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-01-04 15:24 < Scarian_> Mike_H: Aww... I know a vaguely famous person...
2008-01-04 15:24 < Scarian_> :D
2008-01-04 15:24 < OldakQuill> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_value_of_money - a whole article detailing calculations
2008-01-04 15:25 < TheWeasel> should give some more explanations as to wtf those things are that it's calculating
2008-01-04 15:27 * TheWeasel analyzes a chess game that contained 12 potentially losing blunders in a row
2008-01-04 15:27 < TheWeasel> from both sides
2008-01-04 15:27 * Drunken_Idiot anyone seen the crazy rap video about politicans on Jay Leno ?
2008-01-04 15:27 < Scarian_> Mike_H: You've got a lot of reading to do...
2008-01-04 15:27 < Scarian_> :|
2008-01-04 15:28 < Mike_H> Scarian_: I'm just surprised how big of an outflow I got
2008-01-04 15:28 < Mike_H> of comments
2008-01-04 15:29 < Mike_H> and one girl who made a list actually came back and was like SORRY I WILL PUT REASONS DOWN! and put reasons down for like 15 girls she liked
2008-01-04 15:29 < Scarian_> Haha
2008-01-04 15:29 < Scarian_> Some people can be so serious...
2008-01-04 15:29 < Scarian_> You ARE going to get that one we looked at yesterday right? |:-|
2008-01-04 15:29 < Mike_H> I just wanted the comments so I didn't see a name liek
2008-01-04 15:29 < Mike_H> Anchal
2008-01-04 15:29 < Mike_H> and then skip over it
2008-01-04 15:29 < Mike_H> (I hated Anchal)
2008-01-04 15:30 < TheWeasel> Arunachal Pradesh
2008-01-04 15:30 < Mike_H> Scarian_: Who, Jaslene?
2008-01-04 15:30 < Scarian_> Ja.
2008-01-04 15:30 < Mike_H> My friend Sandy LOVES Jaslene
2008-01-04 15:30 < Mike_H> but then I got friends IMing me like
2008-01-04 15:30 < Mike_H> "don't interview Jaslene"
2008-01-04 15:30 < Scarian_> How'd you even get the opportunity to interview these people anyway?
2008-01-04 15:31 < Mike_H> A lot of them have official myspaces or other things on the internet
2008-01-04 15:31 < Mike_H> I ask them for an interview
2008-01-04 15:31 < Mike_H> if they say yes, I ask them to call me
2008-01-04 15:31 < TheWeasel> Good night, Jaslene, goodnight Jaslene, I'll get you in my dreeeeeeeams
2008-01-04 15:31 < Mike_H> so I can verify that they are who they say they are
2008-01-04 15:31 < Mike_H> and we conduct the interviews either over the phone or online
2008-01-04 15:32 < Scarian_> Mike_H: Some journalists don't think that phone/e-mail/IM interviews are real interviews...
2008-01-04 15:32 < Scarian_> Are you a pro journalist?
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> Scarian_: Yeah, I am
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> but I mean
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> what's the alternative?
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> I can't fly to see them.
2008-01-04 15:33 < Scarian_> Mike_H: Wouldn't be worth it :D
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> :P
2008-01-04 15:33 < Scarian_> Not to see Jaslene anyway...
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> I wouldn't be able to see her
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> she'd hide behind like a lamppost
2008-01-04 15:33 < Mike_H> and she'd be gone
2008-01-04 15:33 < Phoenix-wiki> LOL @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Warlordjohncarter#You_have_won.21
2008-01-04 15:34 < Drunken_Idiot> Mike_H : Hugs
2008-01-04 15:34 < Drunken_Idiot> Phoenix-wiki: Hugs
2008-01-04 15:34 < Phoenix-wiki> k
2008-01-04 15:36 < Mike_H> hugs
2008-01-04 15:38 * quanticle wonders if one day some country will elect a President based on wikipedia contributions
2008-01-04 15:41 < Cyrius> quanticle: "not enough mainspace edits"
2008-01-04 15:41 * TheWeasel has two cows
2008-01-04 15:42 * quanticle wonders if TheWeasel is making a "Two Cows" joke
2008-01-04 15:42 < TheWeasel> nah
2008-01-04 15:42 < TheWeasel> there's nothing typical about weasel society
2008-01-04 15:49 < Drunken_Idiot> Buh Bye
2008-01-04 16:05 < geniice> I see we have banner ads for cafepress now
2008-01-04 16:16 < NotACow> whee
2008-01-04 16:16 < NotACow> geniice: wh is wee?
2008-01-04 16:16 < NotACow> geniice: who has banner ads for cafepress?
2008-01-04 16:17 * NotACow has no cows, for the record
2008-01-04 16:18 < geniice> see where the or buy Wikimedia merchandise. link goes
2008-01-04 16:18 < NotACow> geniice: heh
2008-01-04 16:18 < NotACow> geniice: is this erik's solution fo wikipedia's money woes?
2008-01-04 16:18 < geniice> I doubt it
2008-01-04 16:19 < Alkivar> can anyone tell me what time my client quit last?
2008-01-04 16:19 < geniice> in any case the first suggestions to move from cafepress are over 3 years old
2008-01-04 16:25 < Mike_H> * Alkivar has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
2008-01-04 16:25 < Pilotguy> nice ctcp there
2008-01-04 16:30 < TheWeasel> heh, another comma error
2008-01-04 16:30 < TheWeasel> "the first, free elections" is saying something completely different than "the first free elections"