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2008-01-02 16:02 < Messedrocker> that kicks ass!!!!!
2008-01-02 16:02 < Bungle> infamously :p
2008-01-02 16:03 < quanticle> Bungle: Where did Messedrocker leave a lasting legacy?
2008-01-02 16:03 < Bungle> quanticle: we're talking nearly 6 years ago
2008-01-02 16:03 < kim_bruning> OMG, they don't have ron paul!
2008-01-02 16:03 < quanticle> kim_bruning: Where?
2008-01-02 16:03 < bumm13> ;'/p=-0000000000 nb;/'[k
2008-01-02 16:03 < kim_bruning> http://www.eenvandaag.nl/stemwijzerusa/en/
2008-01-02 16:04 < quanticle> Bungle: Deeply buried skeletons are ok, too
2008-01-02 16:04 < kim_bruning> COMPLAIN!
2008-01-02 16:04 < kim_bruning> it said I'd vote for hillary clinton
2008-01-02 16:04 * quanticle wonders if bumm13's cat is attacking the keyboard
2008-01-02 16:04 < bumm13> (darn cat ;p )
2008-01-02 16:04 < kim_bruning> (and I'm not even a usaian)
2008-01-02 16:04 < TheWeasel> Ron Paul is a cross between Tom Jefferson and the Messiah
2008-01-02 16:04 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, seems to cover it ;-)
2008-01-02 16:05 < quanticle> kim_bruning: It might be a hint of dislexia, but I always end up reading usaian as uasian...
2008-01-02 16:05 < TheWeasel> "dys"
2008-01-02 16:05 < TheWeasel> :-P
2008-01-02 16:05 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Heh.
2008-01-02 16:05 < quanticle> kim_bruning: and then I wonder what a micro-asian is...
2008-01-02 16:05 < kim_bruning> quanticle, you do?
2008-01-02 16:05 < kim_bruning> I don't
2008-01-02 16:05 < TheWeasel> Nissan Micra?
2008-01-02 16:06 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Must be a European model. We don't have Micras here...
2008-01-02 16:07 < TheWeasel> Nissan March apparently
2008-01-02 16:07 < Messedrocker> hey, the poll says i'd like John Edwards
2008-01-02 16:07 < Messedrocker> sushigeek should approve :)
2008-01-02 16:07 < quanticle> TheWeasel: We don't have those either.
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> many asians aren't too tall
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> Messedrocker, but no ron paul!
2008-01-02 16:07 < Messedrocker> kim_bruning, I'll say
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> no fair!
2008-01-02 16:07 < quanticle> TheWeasel: We have Nissan Versas. That might be it.
2008-01-02 16:07 < Messedrocker> I'm also taller than Jimbo
2008-01-02 16:07 < Messedrocker> significantly
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> and they don't mention the constitution at all either
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> darn
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> I guess the media is just stupid
2008-01-02 16:07 < TheWeasel> no
2008-01-02 16:07 < TheWeasel> much smaller
2008-01-02 16:07 < kim_bruning> as opposed to plain biased
2008-01-02 16:08 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nissan_Micra_2005_red_vl.jpg
2008-01-02 16:08 < kim_bruning> this is the dutch media, after all
2008-01-02 16:08 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Any car smaller than a versa would get squished on American roads
2008-01-02 16:08 < kim_bruning> quanticle, but smart is being introduced already!
2008-01-02 16:08 < TheWeasel> bias in newspapers is entirely alright, to me.
2008-01-02 16:08 < TheWeasel> unless they're saying they're balanced
2008-01-02 16:09 < Messedrocker> kim_bruning, I am honored that you know about the highest law document in my country. I don't know about the highest law document in your country.
2008-01-02 16:09 < quanticle> TheWeasel: The car is kinda cute though...
2008-01-02 16:09 < Aqwis2> europeans learn about your constitution in school =/
2008-01-02 16:09 < TheWeasel> heh yea, we once had one in Spain
2008-01-02 16:09 < Messedrocker> Aqwis2, because it influenced modern republicanism?
2008-01-02 16:09 < quanticle> kim_bruning: Which country are you in?
2008-01-02 16:09 < Aqwis2> no, because it's the constitution of the US
2008-01-02 16:09 < Messedrocker> that's stupid
2008-01-02 16:09 < Aqwis2> :p
2008-01-02 16:09 < TheWeasel> it has, too
2008-01-02 16:09 < kim_bruning> Messedrocker, that would be the statute of the kingdom... closely followed by the constitution of my country itself :-)
2008-01-02 16:09 < Messedrocker> i say it should be studied only because it influenced the french who influenced europe
2008-01-02 16:09 < Aqwis2> part of learning about US culture
2008-01-02 16:10 < TheWeasel> although Europe typically looks to France rather than the US
2008-01-02 16:10 < Aqwis2> and politics
2008-01-02 16:10 < Messedrocker> a la Code Napoleon
2008-01-02 16:10 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-02 16:10 < kim_bruning> my country was the first modern republic
2008-01-02 16:10 < kim_bruning> but we switched to monarchy sometime since the founding and today :-P
2008-01-02 16:10 < TheWeasel> the Code is just codified civil law, mostly Roman traditions
2008-01-02 16:10 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Meh, that's a stretch of a reason for studying the US constitution. Why not spend the time on more intensive analysis of the the French Constitution?
2008-01-02 16:10 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, europe looks to france? France would WISH!
2008-01-02 16:10 < kim_bruning> hahahahahahahahaha
2008-01-02 16:10 < Messedrocker> quanticle, it's possible Americans have infiltrated your education ministries in Europe
2008-01-02 16:11 < kim_bruning> <ahem>
2008-01-02 16:11 < TheWeasel> the 5th Republic constitution doesn't retain an awful lot of 1789.
2008-01-02 16:11 < quanticle> Messedrocker: I'm in America too, btw...
2008-01-02 16:11 < mavhk> europe only looks to france as a nice place to invade
2008-01-02 16:11 < kim_bruning> ROTFL
2008-01-02 16:11 < kim_bruning> not quite that bad anymore ;-)
2008-01-02 16:11 < quanticle> mavhk: Nah, that's only in the 20th century
2008-01-02 16:11 < TheWeasel> Well, historically we do put more emphasis on the French Revolution as an influence than the American one
2008-01-02 16:11 < TheWeasel> which happened an ocean away
2008-01-02 16:12 < quanticle> mavhk: Before the 20th century it was france that was usually doing the invading
2008-01-02 16:12 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, well the american revolution was done by the french navy... with the help of a few local warlords :-P
2008-01-02 16:12 < mavhk> karma
2008-01-02 16:12 < kim_bruning> mavhk, :-P
2008-01-02 16:12 < quanticle> kim_bruning: The French Army too.
2008-01-02 16:12 < kim_bruning> You think maybe they didn't like the british? :-P
2008-01-02 16:12 < mavhk> seems like half the american wars have something to do with the french
2008-01-02 16:12 < quanticle> kim_bruning: French troops outnumbered Americans at the battle of Yorktown
2008-01-02 16:12 < TheWeasel> yea... but that was England-hating rather than democracy-loving
2008-01-02 16:13 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, no, the french like democracy too
2008-01-02 16:13 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, liberte, egalite, fraternite!
2008-01-02 16:13 < mavhk> they kinda invented it
2008-01-02 16:13 < kim_bruning> mavhk, that was the greeks ;-)
2008-01-02 16:13 < TheWeasel> Thirteen years later.
2008-01-02 16:13 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Whatever. I like how, even though the French granted us democracy, we were "natural" allies with the British by the 20th century...
2008-01-02 16:13 < shimgray> kim_bruning: this was *before* that :-)
2008-01-02 16:13 < TheWeasel> the army was still under Louis Seize's command
2008-01-02 16:13 < Messedrocker> the americans were influenced by the romans and greeks
2008-01-02 16:13 < Messedrocker> the french were influenced by the americans
2008-01-02 16:14 < Messedrocker> the french conquered europe and imposed lockeian values
2008-01-02 16:14 < kim_bruning> the french were influenced by the americans?
2008-01-02 16:14 < kim_bruning> wow
2008-01-02 16:14 < TheWeasel> And with the French, especially in WWI, which France did not lose :-D
2008-01-02 16:14 < TheWeasel> there was an intense period of Francophilia in 20s America
2008-01-02 16:14 < Messedrocker> the American Revolution is responsible for the French Revolution in a way
2008-01-02 16:14 < NotACow> TheWeasel: we have weird trends like that
2008-01-02 16:14 < shimgray> "To this end we stirred mankind till all Earth was ours / Till our world-end strifes begat wayside Thrones and Powers - / Puppets that we made or broke to bar the other’s path - / Necessary, outpost-folk, hirelings of our wrath."
2008-01-02 16:14 < quanticle> TheWeasel: I still can't fathom how clean a war WWI was. Especially on the Western Front, there were virtually no civilian casualties
2008-01-02 16:15 < Messedrocker> the American Revolution left France in deep debt, the king was a dope, and so people became violent
2008-01-02 16:15 < NotACow> TheWeasel: remember the wild egyptophiliaaround the tern of the cuntury?
2008-01-02 16:15 < TheWeasel> quanticle: The trenches on the other hand...
2008-01-02 16:15 < mavhk> the history of french democracy sounds like an episode of Lost
2008-01-02 16:15 < TheWeasel> I haven't been arount the cuntury for a long time.
2008-01-02 16:15 < NotACow> that was a curious typo
2008-01-02 16:15 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Right. But WW2 was equally brutal on the armies involved, with a much greater impact on civilians
2008-01-02 16:15 < shimgray> quanticle: which didn't make much of a difference when every adult male was conscripted and sent into the meatgrudner
2008-01-02 16:15 < quanticle> shimgray: As opposed to WW2, I mean
2008-01-02 16:16 < shimgray> mmm... that's mainly a quirk of it being static warfare
2008-01-02 16:16 < TheWeasel> quanticle: Because of Nazi ideology, it *could* have been cleaner
2008-01-02 16:16 < TheWeasel> Semicolon
2008-01-02 16:16 < shimgray> even in WW2, static warfare was clean(ish)
2008-01-02 16:16 < shimgray> and the lack of strategic airpower
2008-01-02 16:16 < TheWeasel> Because of Nazi ideology, that; it could have been cleaner if not for that
2008-01-02 16:17 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Not necessarily. The Eastern front was pretty brutal on both sides
2008-01-02 16:17 < TheWeasel> shimgray: Dresden.
2008-01-02 16:17 < FastLizard4> Wow, nickserv is quite slow today
2008-01-02 16:17 < shimgray> TheWeasel: indeed. but that capacity didn't exist in WWI
2008-01-02 16:17 < TheWeasel> quanticle: Soviet brutality was largely a response
2008-01-02 16:17 < quanticle> shimgray: That's the thing though. Static warfare is almost always clean. WW2, unfortunately, was a much more dynamic war, with a correspondingly larger impact on civilians
2008-01-02 16:18 < shimgray> the parts of WW2 where combat resembled the frontlines of WW1 were equally clean (and equally vicious), so it's not really meaningful to say WWI was "more" clean
2008-01-02 16:18 < mavhk> if you draft everyone you'd have no civilians to kill
2008-01-02 16:18 < TheWeasel> the only war truly horrendous for civilians in Europe before WWII was the Thirty Years War
2008-01-02 16:18 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Nope. The Soviets killed suspected "collaborators" as they retreated, leaving the Nazis to uncover evidence of war crimes
2008-01-02 16:18 < NotACow> mechanized warfare is harder on civilians
2008-01-02 16:18 < shimgray> just that it had a much higher fraction of the clean types of activity
2008-01-02 16:18 < NotACow> they can't outrun the tanks and the armored personnel carriers
2008-01-02 16:18 < TheWeasel> on the Western front, no gas was used
2008-01-02 16:19 < shimgray> mavhk: War of the Triple Alliance
2008-01-02 16:19 < NotACow> outrunning an army advancing on foot wasn't so hard
2008-01-02 16:19 < quanticle> shimgray: The one in S. America?
2008-01-02 16:19 < shimgray> Yeah.
2008-01-02 16:19 < NotACow> foot armies move slowly and are obvious for days before they arrive
2008-01-02 16:19 < quanticle> shimgray: Reading the War Nerd?
2008-01-02 16:19 < shimgray> ...no?
2008-01-02 16:20 < shimgray> NotACow: plus continual front lines, which didn't exist pre-c20th
2008-01-02 16:20 < quanticle> NotACow: That doesn't mean you can get away from them though. Look at Sherman's march through the South
2008-01-02 16:20 < NotACow> shimgray: they sorta existed in the Late Great Unpleasantness Between The States
2008-01-02 16:20 < Lycurgus> another justification for calling the 1914-1945 process "The Second Thirty Years War"
2008-01-02 16:20 < shimgray> modern mass warfare involves there being a continual front line which travels across the map, rather than individual armies manoeuvering against each other
2008-01-02 16:20 * Big_Lizard is watching you...
2008-01-02 16:21 < shimgray> IIRC you got static continual lines, but out west it was mostly armies moving against each other
2008-01-02 16:21 < TheWeasel> WWI was less irrational
2008-01-02 16:21 < quanticle> shimgray: Either that or you end up with guerrilla actions, and those are really brutal
2008-01-02 16:21 < shimgray> on the other hand, not read much about the Slaveowner's Insurrection
2008-01-02 16:21 < kim_bruning> shimgray, very modern mass warfare doesn't even have a front line anymore
2008-01-02 16:21 < shimgray> (hey, you want to rename it, sure, let's give it a descriptive name...)
2008-01-02 16:21 < Big_Lizard> TheWeasel: Less irrational? Wouldn't it be easier to say "More rational"?
2008-01-02 16:21 < quanticle> shimgray: WW2 was much more about maneuvering armies than static lines, IMHO
2008-01-02 16:21 < shimgray> kim_bruning: ah, yes, postmodern warfare :-)
2008-01-02 16:21 < kim_bruning> shimgray, ROTFL
2008-01-02 16:21 < TheWeasel> Big_Lizard: Not the same.
2008-01-02 16:21 < IceKarma> NotACow, hmm, is "the Late" used as in "the recent", or "the former"?
2008-01-02 16:22 < Big_Lizard> TheWeasel: Oh? How so?
2008-01-02 16:22 < shimgray> quanticle: but there *was* a static front, almost all the time, except in a few "collapse of other party" campaigns such as the Battle of France
2008-01-02 16:22 < shimgray> well, not static, but continuous
2008-01-02 16:22 < TheWeasel> Because it is the wrong category
2008-01-02 16:22 < shimgray> in that at any moment, most of the time, you could draw out the front line on a map
2008-01-02 16:23 < kim_bruning> but there were units
2008-01-02 16:23 < quanticle> shimgray: Right. But the dynamic nature of the "front" meant that armies had to maneuver.
2008-01-02 16:23 < kim_bruning> and the front wasn't actually a single line in reality
2008-01-02 16:23 < CMoreschi> Coerced civility isn't sincere discourse. I must say I have met users
2008-01-02 16:23 < CMoreschi> on Wikipedia who would say nice things to random (?) people including
2008-01-02 16:23 < CMoreschi> myself for no apparent reason (other than promoting wiki-love?). My
2008-01-02 16:23 < CMoreschi> first reaction was to appreciate the thought, but the eventual result
2008-01-02 16:23 < CMoreschi> was a failure on my part to take any of their other words seriously.
2008-01-02 16:23 < CMoreschi> from wiken-l today
2008-01-02 16:23 < kim_bruning> just that the dynamics made it that you did have a front-ish thing
2008-01-02 16:24 < shimgray> Sure, it was a maneouver situation. But... hum, I guess, what I mean is that they remained in connection, yes?
2008-01-02 16:24 < IceKarma> CMoreschi, wow.
2008-01-02 16:24 < kim_bruning> oh pk
2008-01-02 16:24 < kim_bruning> ok
2008-01-02 16:24 < kim_bruning> fair enough
2008-01-02 16:24 < NotACow> CMoreschi: indeed. civility at the point of a gun is no civility.
2008-01-02 16:24 < shimgray> I know what I'm trying to say here :-)
2008-01-02 16:24 < TheWeasel> CMoreschi: Thanks, asshole :-P
2008-01-02 16:24 < CMoreschi> that was Charlotte Webb
2008-01-02 16:24 < quanticle> shimgray: Not necessarily. Armies in WW2 could and did get encircled
2008-01-02 16:24 < kim_bruning> gonna lie down
2008-01-02 16:24 < CMoreschi> I like Charlotte, always enjoy reading her mailing list posts
2008-01-02 16:24 < kim_bruning> laters
2008-01-02 16:24 < quanticle> shimgray: Stalingrad for example, and the German army in france
2008-01-02 16:25 < shimgray> Yeah, but that's the exception and not the rule.
2008-01-02 16:25 < shimgray> and usually involved a perception of the "line being broken"
2008-01-02 16:25 < IceKarma> all part of the dynamism, ne?
2008-01-02 16:25 < CMoreschi> NotACow: for one thing, it's purely hypocritical
2008-01-02 16:25 < CMoreschi> one gets a lot of rather civil cabalists
2008-01-02 16:26 < quanticle> CMoreschi: But how is the saying of random nice things "enforced civility"
2008-01-02 16:26 < quanticle> CMoreschi: Enforced civility would be a policy that says "You'll get banned if you're not civil"
2008-01-02 16:26 < CMoreschi> quanticle: it isn't, and I don't think that's what NotACow met. Lots of people don't really get civility
2008-01-02 16:26 < shimgray> (My reading pile, incidentally, currently has "This Hallowed Ground". Is there a better general history of the ACW?)
2008-01-02 16:26 < CMoreschi> civility is not an automatic right
2008-01-02 16:27 < CMoreschi> it's a grant
2008-01-02 16:27 < CMoreschi> gifted upon certain conditions
2008-01-02 16:27 * Big-Brother watch you always
2008-01-02 16:27 < CMoreschi> there are plenty of occasions on which a certain lack of civility is perfectly fine
2008-01-02 16:27 < quanticle> CMoreschi: Right, I'm just saying that the first part of the quote has nothing at all to do with the second part...
2008-01-02 16:29 < Messedrocker> CMoreschi, civility is simply this. You're in a collaborative environment. Play nice. Share your toys.
2008-01-02 16:29 < CMoreschi> I'm not sure it's a simple as that
2008-01-02 16:29 < Messedrocker> There's really no need to elaborate on it further.
2008-01-02 16:29 < Messedrocker> it's obviously not simple -- it's a koan, really
2008-01-02 16:29 < mavhk> civility is just game theory for morons
2008-01-02 16:30 < CMoreschi> the entry bar for civility is surely that the recipient of civility is collaborative themselves (that is, that they are not a troll(
2008-01-02 16:30 * Big-Brother is still watching you intently'
2008-01-02 16:30 < CMoreschi> polite derision is a very decent way to treat trolling fuckwits
2008-01-02 16:31 < morwen> i wrote the first version of [[WP:AGF]]
2008-01-02 16:31 < morwen> it make an amusing read now
2008-01-02 16:31 < quanticle> CMoreschi: define polite derision?
2008-01-02 16:31 < quanticle> *.
2008-01-02 16:31 < CMoreschi> oh, I don't know
2008-01-02 16:31 < CMoreschi> let me find something
2008-01-02 16:32 < Big-Brother> AGF is funny
2008-01-02 16:32 < Big-Brother> Sometimes it is good, sometimes it isn't
2008-01-02 16:32 * Big-Brother watches [[WP:AGF]]
2008-01-02 16:32 < Lycurgus> i thought civility was more about "don't be a dick" than "share your toys"
2008-01-02 16:32 < morwen> my version of WP:AGF was advice to cynical people that pretending that evil people are actually editing with good intentions is a good way of tricking them into revealing their evil
2008-01-02 16:33 < CMoreschi> hmm
2008-01-02 16:33 < CMoreschi> it's changed rather over time
2008-01-02 16:33 < morwen> i would maintain this is good advice. god knows how it became a code of conduct.
2008-01-02 16:34 < shimgray> "give them enough rope to hang themselves"
2008-01-02 16:34 < morwen> shimgray: precisely!
2008-01-02 16:34 < Lycurgus> of course every now and then a dick is just what you need
2008-01-02 16:34 < quanticle> morwen: Heh. I like that the original WP:AGF is about 10% of the length of the latest AGF
2008-01-02 16:34 < Big-Brother> morwen: I don't agree with AGF, for example, I got banned on #wikia because I suggested that they lock the topic of the channel, instead, I got banned because I violated "Assume Good Faith". AGF only works in semi-private places, not in public channels
2008-01-02 16:35 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Right, but its too easy for people like that to become loose cannons
2008-01-02 16:35 * Big-Brother is watching CutMeOwnThroat cut his own throat
2008-01-02 16:35 < morwen> Big-Brother: I am going to assume you are smoking crack, given that comment.
2008-01-02 16:36 < morwen> it's either that or its nonsequitur day again, and my elephants still aren't dry
2008-01-02 16:36 < Lycurgus> the thing is there shouldn't be a designated dick, otherwise you know quis dick hic dickus?
2008-01-02 16:36 < quanticle> morwen: Also, one thing I disagree with is to try to make an article that's acceptable to everyone. An article that's correct is preferable. Acceptability is a poor substitute for correctness
2008-01-02 16:36 < Big-Brother> morwen: Non sequitur, your facts are uncoordinated.
2008-01-02 16:37 < Big-Brother> quanticle: I agree
2008-01-02 16:37 < Lycurgus> the community sort of has to have a detachable penis/strap that any citoyen can under the proper circumstances wields
2008-01-02 16:37 < Lycurgus> *wield
2008-01-02 16:37 < Big-Brother> Lycurgus: I don't understand that comment, nor do I want to
2008-01-02 16:37 < shimgray> "the community sort of has to have a detachable penis"
2008-01-02 16:37 < Lycurgus> *on, strap-on
2008-01-02 16:37 < morwen> Big-Brother: He's obviously joining in with nonsequitur day!
2008-01-02 16:38 * shimgray boggles slightly
2008-01-02 16:38 < Lycurgus> start of thread: 16:32 < Lycurgus> i thought civility was more about "don't be a dick" than "share your toys"
2008-01-02 16:38 < Big-Brother> Non-sequitir? Error? Error! Flaw! Imperfection! Rectify! RECTIFY! MUST RECTIFY!!!
2008-01-02 16:38 < quanticle> Lycurgus: You took that analogy waaaaay to far
2008-01-02 16:38 < Lycurgus> since I don't consider time I've donated to WP a toy
2008-01-02 16:38 * quanticle knows how to build a rectifier
2008-01-02 16:39 < Big-Brother> Oh, dear
2008-01-02 16:39 * Big-Brother magically morphs into FastLizard4
2008-01-02 16:40 * FastLizard4 was watching Star Trek: The Original Series
2008-01-02 16:41 < rw_> hi all
2008-01-02 16:41 * FastLizard4 wonders if he got unsilenced over at #wikia yet, but dosen't really care to find out
2008-01-02 16:42 * The359 resilences FastLizard4 for good measure
2008-01-02 16:42 < FastLizard4> ...
2008-01-02 16:42 * FastLizard4 attempts to hack The359's computer
2008-01-02 16:43 * The359 records this for the FBI
2008-01-02 16:43 < quanticle> FastLizard4: Why were you silenced at wikia?
2008-01-02 16:43 < Cyrius> I see I was beaten to http://biphenyl.org/blog/2008/01/01/citation-needed/
2008-01-02 16:43 < FastLizard4> quanticle: I will paste an earlier entry to this channel: I don't agree with AGF, for example, I got banned on #wikia because I suggested that they lock the topic of the channel, instead, I got banned because I violated "Assume Good Faith". AGF only works in semi-private places, not in public channels
2008-01-02 16:43 * FastLizard4 morphs into Big-Brother
2008-01-02 16:44 * Cyrius thinks such stickers should form the core of the next fundraiser.
2008-01-02 16:44 < The359> I don't think they'd ban you for just a suggestion
2008-01-02 16:44 < the_giver2> anyone here care to recommend a good host? I need php/mysql (multiple databases) and ssh access... very basic.. very cheap but support for multiple domains (so i can host multiple sites)... thanks... looking for something cheap now but i hope it can expand ..
2008-01-02 16:44 < Big-Brother> The359: I got banned because I suggested it twice after test-changing the topic
2008-01-02 16:45 < Big-Brother> The359: I am not actually banned, either, I am silenced
2008-01-02 16:45 < Big-Brother> Lag 0.05 seconds! Yes!
2008-01-02 16:45 < Big-Brother> Why is my computer accessing my HDD so?
2008-01-02 16:46 < Big-Brother> Aww, crap, IRQ fault
2008-01-02 16:46 < The359> so you weren't actually silenced for failing to assume good faith, you were most likely silenced because you were annoying and wouldn't accept that your proposal was to be accepted
2008-01-02 16:46 < Big-Brother> The359: There was no response to the first time I suggested it
2008-01-02 16:46 < The359> what about when you changed the room topic?
2008-01-02 16:46 < Cyrius> The359: funny how that works
2008-01-02 16:46 < Big-Brother> The359: Added a space at the end
2008-01-02 16:47 < Big-Brother> The359: And AGF was the banner's reason
2008-01-02 16:48 < Antibuddha> i have a hypothetical: what would happen if this world did not have wikipedia?
2008-01-02 16:48 < Big-Brother> Antibuddha: NOOO!
2008-01-02 16:48 < Doc_glasgow> Anyone here familiar with [[The Used]]?
2008-01-02 16:49 < The359> another crap band?
2008-01-02 16:49 < Doc_glasgow> I've just done a BLP enforcement job on [[Bert McCracken]] - lead singer. I'd like some eyes on it
2008-01-02 16:50 < quanticle> Antibuddha: Probably nothing. We'd all be on different IRC channels...
2008-01-02 16:50 < bjweeks> ##knol
2008-01-02 16:50 < The359> What happened to the world before Wikipedia, Antibuddha?
2008-01-02 16:50 < Antibuddha> The359: less violence in the middle east
2008-01-02 16:50 < quanticle> The359: We were bored out of our minds
2008-01-02 16:51 < The359> is that a correlation, Antibuddha?
2008-01-02 16:51 < Antibuddha> The359: yes, before wikipedia there was less violence in the middle east
2008-01-02 16:51 < kenlyric> nothing happened.
2008-01-02 16:51 < kenlyric> all history was created by wikipedia.
2008-01-02 16:52 < Big-Brother> Antibuddha: That's because one year before Wikipedia started, Bush went into office
2008-01-02 16:52 < morwen> whatever did we do before teh interwebz?
2008-01-02 16:52 < The359> live
2008-01-02 16:52 < Antibuddha> bush=wikipedia?
2008-01-02 16:52 < Big-Brother> Antibuddha: No, it is a time correlation
2008-01-02 16:52 < kenlyric> The359: that wasn't really living
2008-01-02 16:52 < Mike_H> http://wikinewsreports.blogspot.com/2008/01/wikinews-asks-reader-which-top-model-do.html
2008-01-02 16:52 < Mike_H> yay
2008-01-02 16:52 < The359> which top model do?
2008-01-02 16:52 < The359> What moron wrote that?
2008-01-02 16:53 < Mike_H> it only parses a few words for the URL
2008-01-02 16:53 < Mike_H> Wikinews asks readers: Which "Top Model" do you want us to interview?
2008-01-02 16:53 < The359> Top what?
2008-01-02 16:53 * Lycurgus would totally do the right TM.
2008-01-02 16:53 < kenlyric> can I vote for none?
2008-01-02 16:53 < Mike_H> No.
2008-01-02 16:53 * quanticle would do all the TMs
2008-01-02 16:53 * The359 votes for: Find some real news
2008-01-02 16:53 < mavhk> the one who's editted wikipedia the most
2008-01-02 16:53 * Big-Brother watches quanticle\
2008-01-02 16:54 < kenlyric> not notable.
2008-01-02 16:54 < Antibuddha> i want wikinews to interview bhutto princess of pakistan
2008-01-02 16:54 < kenlyric> those vapid whores replaced Angel.
2008-01-02 16:54 < Mike_H> kenlyric: Wanna be on top?
2008-01-02 16:54 < Antibuddha> via john edwards the dude who talks to dead people
2008-01-02 16:54 < Lycurgus> wait, are you saying ANTM is not "real" news?
2008-01-02 16:54 < mavhk> it's not real or news
2008-01-02 16:54 < Antibuddha> i want wikipedia to be interviewed by a real encyclopedia
2008-01-02 16:55 < kenlyric> those models don't actually get work.
2008-01-02 16:55 < kenlyric> so they are neither top nor model.
2008-01-02 16:55 < Mike_H> kenlyric: Some of them do
2008-01-02 16:55 < Mike_H> it's just
2008-01-02 16:55 < Mike_H> not usually the winners
2008-01-02 16:55 < mavhk> "organic clotheshorses are not news", discuss
2008-01-02 16:55 < Antibuddha> Mike_H: what is your last name
2008-01-02 16:55 < mavhk> H
2008-01-02 16:55 < Mike_H> Yes. H.
2008-01-02 16:56 < Antibuddha> hell?
2008-01-02 16:56 < mavhk> Not Huckabee?
2008-01-02 16:56 < Antibuddha> are you hiding your jewish origin?
2008-01-02 16:56 < quanticle> Mike_H: Heych?
2008-01-02 16:56 < kenlyric> don't trust Mike_H with this project. he doesn't know how to pick a girl!
2008-01-02 16:56 < Mike_H> I'm not Jewish.
2008-01-02 16:56 < Mike_H> And even if I were
2008-01-02 16:56 < Mike_H> who cares?
2008-01-02 16:56 < Antibuddha> thats what a jew would say to hide his identify
2008-01-02 16:56 < Antibuddha> itentidy
2008-01-02 16:56 * kenlyric guesses Halterman
2008-01-02 16:56 < Antibuddha> holzmann?
2008-01-02 16:56 < quanticle> Antibuddha: Identity, even?
2008-01-02 16:56 < Mike_H> kenlyric: omgz u got it rite !!! 111
2008-01-02 16:57 < mavhk> is it Hitler?
2008-01-02 16:57 < The359> It is Hwang
2008-01-02 16:57 < The359> obviously
2008-01-02 16:57 < quanticle> The359: Its obviously whore, but Mike can't spell...
2008-01-02 16:57 < quanticle> :)
2008-01-02 16:57 < Antibuddha> are you a fictitious character referred to constantly as the inventor of the holzmann mathematical formula which enables navigator ships to travel vast distances in the sci fi novel series Dune by frank herbert?
2008-01-02 16:57 < Antibuddha> Mike Hitler
2008-01-02 16:57 < The359> well I know that, he came up with "What top model do"
2008-01-02 16:58 * Mike_H slaps The359 around a bit with a large trout
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> Mike_H: why wont you tell us your last name if u arent jew?
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> i will tell you my last name
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> it is not W
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> it os WONG
2008-01-02 16:58 < Mike_H> Antibuddha: ...I just did
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> oh
2008-01-02 16:58 < Mike_H> kenlyric said it
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> halterman?
2008-01-02 16:58 < quanticle> Antibuddha: That's just the sort of thing a jew would say, now isn't it?
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> i think u lying
2008-01-02 16:58 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-01-02 16:58 < Mike_H> as in
2008-01-02 16:58 < Mike_H> User:Mike Halterman
2008-01-02 16:58 < kenlyric> if only Mike had pasted a link that provided the answer....
2008-01-02 16:58 < quanticle> Antibuddha: Unless you're *gasp* a Communist
2008-01-02 16:58 < Antibuddha> are you making fun of my gimp leg by choosing halterman?
2008-01-02 16:59 < mavhk> Mike_H: that's damn sneaky
2008-01-02 16:59 < Mike_H> mavhk: I know, right?
2008-01-02 16:59 < Antibuddha> im insulted by your innuendo Mike_H
2008-01-02 16:59 < Mike_H> Oh my God.
2008-01-02 16:59 < kenlyric> your innuendo is neither in nor uendo.
2008-01-02 16:59 < Mike_H> that was crap
2008-01-02 16:59 < quanticle> Mike_H ftw
2008-01-02 16:59 < Mike_H> if he continued that for three more minutes I would have banned
2008-01-02 16:59 < Mike_H> he was giving me an Excedrin headache
2008-01-02 17:00 < Mike_H> kenlyric: look at your PM
2008-01-02 17:00 < kenlyric> I did?
2008-01-02 17:00 < Mike_H> if you responded, you're not registered or logged in
2008-01-02 17:00 < Mike_H> I saw nothing.
2008-01-02 17:01 < mavhk> nickserv is lame
2008-01-02 17:01 < mavhk> I get ~0 spam everywhere where there's no nickserv
2008-01-02 17:01 < quanticle> mavhk: Well, its better than nothing...
2008-01-02 17:01 < mavhk> you're effectively forced to use it though
2008-01-02 17:01 < kenlyric> I'm registered. I just didn't have a response.
2008-01-02 17:02 < kenlyric> quanticle: actually, nothing works fine too.
2008-01-02 17:02 < quanticle> mavhk: NickServ is pretty much like a CAPTCHA...
2008-01-02 17:02 < Mike_H> bleh, whatever
2008-01-02 17:02 < mavhk> except for the whole proving you're human part
2008-01-02 17:02 < quanticle> kenlyric: Not really. PM spams suck...
2008-01-02 17:02 < kenlyric> what alternate universe does this happen?
2008-01-02 17:02 < mavhk> but I don't get an pm spams on efnet
2008-01-02 17:02 < mavhk> any
2008-01-02 17:02 < kenlyric> wow gold spammers found irc?
2008-01-02 17:03 < mavhk> if there a site one can go to register the fact that women are quite satisfied with my penis size and ability to get an errection?
2008-01-02 17:03 < mavhk> is
2008-01-02 17:04 < mavhk> or perhaps doctors could leak that kind of info to the spammers, so they could target more effectively
2008-01-02 17:04 < nazgjunk_> "your woman is not happy with your size!" "oh, is that right?"
2008-01-02 17:05 < nazgjunk_> I'm totally feeling insecure because of spam
2008-01-02 17:05 < nazgjunk_> I should sue them
2008-01-02 17:05 < mavhk> emotional distress and unauthorised use of a computer network
2008-01-02 17:05 < quanticle> I found this rather interesting: Durova's fourth law: small organizations run on relationships. Formal policies emerge when the organization becomes too large to operate on that basis. Policies continue to grow in both quantity and complexity in proportion to organizational growth until the policies no longer work, at which point the policies remain in place while the organization reverts to running on relationships.
2008-01-02 17:06 < mavhk> I just email them back saying "hah, I haven't got a girlfriend, you lose!"
2008-01-02 17:06 < Mike_H> do THEY really lose here?
2008-01-02 17:06 < Mike_H> or is it you?
2008-01-02 17:06 < quanticle> Mike_H: Its spammers vs. nerds. Both sides lose
2008-01-02 17:07 < mavhk> it's definitely them...probably them...possibily them
2008-01-02 17:07 < Mike_H> 50/50 them and you
2008-01-02 17:07 < mavhk> also I sold my brother into slavery
2008-01-02 17:07 < Mike_H> or if it makes you feel better
2008-01-02 17:07 < Mike_H> 51/49
2008-01-02 17:08 < quanticle> mavhk: I am interested and would like to subscribe to your newsletter
2008-01-02 17:08 < mavhk> just send me your email address
2008-01-02 17:08 < mavhk> quanticle: or smaller sub organizations are formed that continue to run on relationships
2008-01-02 17:09 < geniice> any en admins around
2008-01-02 17:09 < geniice> ?
2008-01-02 17:09 < morwen> probably
2008-01-02 17:10 < geniice> need to know if the majority of the history of [[Talk:Giovanni di Stefano]] has been deleted or oversited
2008-01-02 17:10 < Mike_H> A cold night looms for Florida where some locations may see their lowest temperatures in five years. Readings on the peninsula will dip into the 20s and 30s. Minima in the teens will chill some areas in the northern part of the state.
2008-01-02 17:10 < Mike_H> Oh, wonderful.
2008-01-02 17:10 < geniice> don't need the content
2008-01-02 17:11 < morwen> Mike_H: ah, that's old money. momentarily confused me.
2008-01-02 17:11 < Mike_H> heh
2008-01-02 17:11 < quanticle> Mike_H: Oh stop whining. Here in MN, a temp of 20 is positively balmy
2008-01-02 17:11 < mavhk> just use kelvin like any normal person
2008-01-02 17:11 < Mike_H> quanticle: I'm from Florida!
2008-01-02 17:11 < Mike_H> Let me weep my icy tears!
2008-01-02 17:12 < quanticle> mavhk: 20 degrees Fahrenheit = 266.483333 kelvin
2008-01-02 17:12 < mavhk> see, much saner
2008-01-02 17:12 < FoeNyx> quanticle> it's hot !
2008-01-02 17:13 < quanticle> Mike_H: 272K isn't properly icy. Your tears (even if they were pure water) would remain more as slush than ice, because the outer layer of ice would tend to insulate the water inside
2008-01-02 17:14 < Mike_H> quanticle: No doubt we're going to be shattering the record low for the date
2008-01-02 17:14 < quanticle> Mike_H: What is the record low over there?
2008-01-02 17:14 < Mike_H> of all time?
2008-01-02 17:14 < Mike_H> 12
2008-01-02 17:14 < Mike_H> that was in December 1962.
2008-01-02 17:15 < Mike_H> but for the date, I don't think it's lower than 20
2008-01-02 17:15 < FoeNyx> Mike_H> the salt in your tears should decrease the fusion point
2008-01-02 17:15 < FoeNyx> solidification*
2008-01-02 17:15 * FoeNyx should go sleeping >.<'
2008-01-02 17:16 < FoeNyx> good night
2008-01-02 17:16 < quanticle> Mike_H: Your record low is higher than our *average* low...
2008-01-02 17:16 < quanticle> Goodbye FoeNyx
2008-01-02 17:16 < Alkivar> http://www.maniacworld.com/drag-racing-gone-wrong.html
2008-01-02 17:16 * quanticle wonders why he's living in this frozen wasteland
2008-01-02 17:17 < Alkivar> dude rips off his rear axle
2008-01-02 17:17 < Alkivar> lol
2008-01-02 17:17 < White_Cat> Martinp23 ping!
2008-01-02 17:17 < Martinp23> pong, pm.
2008-01-02 17:17 < quanticle> Alkivar - Its not funny unless the rear axle goes into the crowd
2008-01-02 17:18 < Alkivar> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article640000.ece
2008-01-02 17:20 < Sfan00> PING St47
2008-01-02 17:20 < quanticle> Alkivar - Its like land-luging for people who can't afford land luges
2008-01-02 17:23 < quanticle> kmccoy - Tell my why we live in this frozen wasteland of a state?
2008-01-02 17:23 < kmccoy> quanticle, hehe. I flew out here to NYC yesterday. :)
2008-01-02 17:24 < kmccoy> quanticle, Minnesota is beautiful, though. I'll take four distinct seasons over boring Florida weather anyday. :)
2008-01-02 17:24 < Brynn> hey, kmccoy
2008-01-02 17:24 < quanticle> kmccoy - We don't have 4 distinct seasons. We have "cold" and "mosquitos"...
2008-01-02 17:24 < kmccoy> Hey, Brynn. :)
2008-01-02 17:25 < kmccoy> quanticle, heheh :)
2008-01-02 17:25 < quanticle> kmccoy - "Fall" and "spring" are so short they can be discounted
2008-01-02 17:25 < kmccoy> quanticle, I don't think that's the case at all. :)
2008-01-02 17:26 < quanticle> kmccoy - This year spring lasted all of 3 weeks or so before we were into summer-like heat
2008-01-02 17:26 < quanticle> kmccoy - or rather, last year
2008-01-02 17:26 < Brynn> which is why the smart people live by 'the lake'
2008-01-02 17:26 < IceKarma> the weather here definitely changes abruptly.
2008-01-02 17:26 < kmccoy> Well, I wasn't in the state for Spring. Actually, I haven't been in Minnesota for Springtime for a few years.
2008-01-02 17:26 < kmccoy> Brynn, only the obnoxious ones who live next to that one big lake call it 'the lake'. :)
2008-01-02 17:26 < quanticle> Brynn - by the lake, where mosquito concentrations are at their maximum?
2008-01-02 17:27 < quanticle> kmccoy - Which big lake, in particular?
2008-01-02 17:27 < quanticle> kmccoy - Red Lake?
2008-01-02 17:27 < Brynn> haha...and those who are dangerously close to 'the range' call it what?
2008-01-02 17:27 < kmccoy> quanticle, Superior. :)
2008-01-02 17:27 < kmccoy> Brynn, Lake Superior. :P
2008-01-02 17:27 < quanticle> kmccoy - Oh. That big lake...
2008-01-02 17:27 < kmccoy> hehe
2008-01-02 17:27 < quanticle> :)
2008-01-02 17:28 < kmccoy> We do have an awful lot of mosquitoes up in my area, being mostly swampy.
2008-01-02 17:28 < Brynn> kmccoy, it wasn't bad this past summer. I camped just outside of your town and there wasn't a mosquito to be seen.
2008-01-02 17:28 < Brynn> too dry
2008-01-02 17:28 * Big-Brother is watching you...
2008-01-02 17:28 < kmccoy> Yeah, actually, that's true, now that you mention it.
2008-01-02 17:29 < quanticle> Brynn - yeah, the drought up north certainly helped with mosquito populations
2008-01-02 17:29 < quanticle> kmccoy - Say, did you get to go to Gooseberry falls last year?
2008-01-02 17:29 < Scottc> arguing politics is such a waste of time
2008-01-02 17:29 < Brynn> It was great, quanticle. Another reason to support Minnesotans For Global Warming
2008-01-02 17:29 < quanticle> Scottc - And you realized this now?
2008-01-02 17:29 < Scottc> no
2008-01-02 17:29 < Scottc> i've always known it
2008-01-02 17:29 < Scottc> some how I got drawn into arguing about politics.
2008-01-02 17:30 < Scottc> sneaky bastards :|
2008-01-02 17:30 < kmccoy> quanticle: I was up there five or six years ago, but I didn't go last year.
2008-01-02 17:30 < Brynn> I was at gooseberry this year.
2008-01-02 17:30 < kmccoy> I went to Itasca State Park this past summer. I enjoyed that.
2008-01-02 17:31 < Brynn> so did I, kmccoy! I stayed in one of their cabins for a weekend. It was fab.
2008-01-02 17:31 < quanticle> kmccoy - Well, if you had gone last summer, you could have walked out onto the falls themselves
2008-01-02 17:31 < kmccoy> Awesome. :) We just stayed for the day. It was a perfect day, though. It's so pretty there.
2008-01-02 17:31 < quanticle> kmccoy - The falls were almost completely dry
2008-01-02 17:32 < kmccoy> quanticle: Ah, it was like that when I went a few years back, too.
2008-01-02 17:32 < quanticle> kmccoy - It was actually kind of a shock for me, since the first time I saw Gooseberry was in a "wet" year
2008-01-02 17:33 < kmccoy> quanticle: Ahh, yeah, the pictures I saw of it from when there's a lot of flow were way different than what I saw when I visited. :)
2008-01-02 17:33 < Big-Brother> Can someone attempt to join #code-snippets and tell me if it wants a password? I want to know if I set it up right
2008-01-02 17:33 * White_Cat eyes quanticle
2008-01-02 17:34 < quanticle> Big-Brother - I can't join. It says "Bad Channel Key"
2008-01-02 17:34 * White_Cat snipes
2008-01-02 17:34 * quanticle ducks
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> eeek
2008-01-02 17:34 < Big-Brother> quanticle: Try joining with the password "fish"
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> I accidentaly shot kmccoy
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> and the password is public now
2008-01-02 17:34 < Big-Brother> I know
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> 242 people know it
2008-01-02 17:34 < Big-Brother> I am testing it
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> well
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> I dont count
2008-01-02 17:34 < White_Cat> I am not a person
2008-01-02 17:35 < quanticle> Big-Brother - the password worked
2008-01-02 17:35 < Big-Brother> OK, now to disable the password
2008-01-02 17:35 < Big-Brother> good
2008-01-02 17:35 < Big-Brother> OK
2008-01-02 17:35 < Big-Brother> Now to disable it
2008-01-02 17:35 < White_Cat> fishy passwoed
2008-01-02 17:35 < quanticle> White_Cat - I thought cats liked fish
2008-01-02 17:35 < Sfan00> St47: PING
2008-01-02 17:36 < Big-Brother> now anyone can join, right? I think I removed the channel
2008-01-02 17:36 < Lycurgus> ST47: &uparr;
2008-01-02 17:37 < quanticle> Big-Brother - Correct. No password necessary
2008-01-02 17:37 < Big-Brother> OK. yay!
2008-01-02 17:38 < quanticle> Whoa. Look at the time. Gotta go
2008-01-02 17:38 < Lycurgus> *↑
2008-01-02 17:39 < kmccoy> hah
2008-01-02 17:40 < kmccoy> So, I've turned into a flashlight snob.
2008-01-02 17:40 < Brynn> hm?
2008-01-02 17:40 < kmccoy> I just saw a commercial for Mag-Lite, and I was thinking the whole time that it's all BS. :)
2008-01-02 17:41 < Brynn> haha
2008-01-02 17:42 < White_Cat> Wing of Devil?
2008-01-02 17:43 * White_Cat clips AkumaNoTsubasa's wings
2008-01-02 17:43 < IceKarma> White_Cat, perhaps "Devilswing", a little more idiomatically
2008-01-02 17:43 < White_Cat> yes
2008-01-02 17:43 < IceKarma> White_Cat, or do I have X no Y backwards again?
2008-01-02 17:43 < White_Cat> but less melodramatic
2008-01-02 17:44 < White_Cat> Y belongs to X
2008-01-02 17:44 < White_Cat> Y owned by X
2008-01-02 17:44 < White_Cat> ack
2008-01-02 17:44 < White_Cat> X owned by Y
2008-01-02 17:44 < IceKarma> ... or do you have it backwards now? ;)
2008-01-02 17:44 < White_Cat> you got be confused
2008-01-02 17:44 < White_Cat> IcenoKarma
2008-01-02 17:45 < IceKarma> I suppose it'd help if I knew enough vocabulary to know which was "wing" and which was "devil". ;)
2008-01-02 17:45 < White_Cat> noIceKarma
2008-01-02 17:45 < White_Cat> Tsubasa = wing
2008-01-02 17:45 < White_Cat> Akuma = Devil, Demon
2008-01-02 17:45 < White_Cat> can also mean evil
2008-01-02 17:45 < IceKarma> oh, yes, I'm now remembering about a couple who wanted to name their kid Akuma, but weren't allowed
2008-01-02 17:46 < White_Cat> well
2008-01-02 17:46 < White_Cat> being the devils child wouldnt be fun
2008-01-02 17:46 < kmccoy> ooh, cool, a geonotice worked on me.
2008-01-02 17:46 < AkumaNoTsubasa> sorry I was away
2008-01-02 17:46 < White_Cat> IceKarma you any good with c#?
2008-01-02 17:47 < AkumaNoTsubasa> C# = Bad, choose Java
2008-01-02 17:47 < IceKarma> White_Cat, I know it much better than I know Japanese, yes
2008-01-02 17:47 < IceKarma> AkumaNoTsubasa, eww, Java.
2008-01-02 17:47 < White_Cat> IceKarma why do I feel not reasured? :D
2008-01-02 17:47 < White_Cat> IceKarma mind if I mail you some code
2008-01-02 17:47 < AkumaNoTsubasa> Koko ni, nihonjin ga iru no desu ka?
2008-01-02 17:47 < IceKarma> White_Cat, I suppose you can, but I can't run or even compile it at the moment
2008-01-02 17:48 < White_Cat> IceKarma why not?
2008-01-02 17:48 < IceKarma> White_Cat, thanks to a string of hardware failures in recent time, I have one working Windows machine, which has next to nothing installed on it, and lacks the disk space, RAM, or CPU power to run anything significant anyway
2008-01-02 17:49 < AkumaNoTsubasa> You are on a open project wikipedia channel and you deal with MS and C# bah ^^
2008-01-02 17:50 < geniice> AkumaNoTsubasa generly better to go to one of the sub channels
2008-01-02 17:50 < White_Cat> geniice you a c# fan?
2008-01-02 17:50 < geniice> I can't program
2008-01-02 17:50 < White_Cat> how about programming the microwave?
2008-01-02 17:50 < IceKarma> AkumaNoTsubasa, dewa arimasen
2008-01-02 17:51 < AkumaNoTsubasa> C# has good not PORTABLE library, but has also an extremly BAD syntax
2008-01-02 17:51 < IceKarma> White_Cat, what kind of help do you need, anyway?
2008-01-02 17:51 < White_Cat> IceKarma how polite
2008-01-02 17:51 < White_Cat> IceKarma let me send you the code
2008-01-02 17:51 < White_Cat> maybe you can fiure it out by looking at the code
2008-01-02 17:51 < AkumaNoTsubasa> boku wa nihonjin ja nai, furansujin da ga, nihonjin to hanashitai desu yo
2008-01-02 17:52 < IceKarma> White_Cat, and I'm Canadian, what do you expect? :P
2008-01-02 17:52 < AkumaNoTsubasa> Qui est Canadien ? ;)
2008-01-02 17:52 * IceKarma est canadienne.
2008-01-02 17:52 < White_Cat> IceKarma you are supposed to sip your beer now
2008-01-02 17:52 < IceKarma> White_Cat, ew, beer.
2008-01-02 17:52 < AkumaNoTsubasa> une fille, tu es belle? ^^
2008-01-02 17:52 < FastLizard4|busy> Hehe, look at #code-snippet 's topic and tell me if you see something... unusual...
2008-01-02 17:53 < FastLizard4|busy> bah
2008-01-02 17:53 < FastLizard4|busy> wrong channel
2008-01-02 17:53 < FastLizard4|busy> #code-snippets
2008-01-02 17:53 < AkumaNoTsubasa> Does anybody have a good knowledge about Physic?
2008-01-02 17:54 < AkumaNoTsubasa> I need to know some stuffs about d'Alembert
2008-01-02 17:54 < FastLizard4|busy> Physics is phun
2008-01-02 17:54 < IceKarma> AkumaNoTsubasa, oui, et aussi mariée :P
2008-01-02 17:54 < AkumaNoTsubasa> which are missing on wikipedia
2008-01-02 17:54 < AkumaNoTsubasa> IceKarma, je rigolais je voulais me la jouer macho de base ;)
2008-01-02 17:55 < AkumaNoTsubasa> Tu apprends le japonais?