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2008-01-02 12:43 < OverlordQ> comes from *nix
2008-01-02 12:43 < White_Cat> luckly wikipedia does not govern irc
2008-01-02 12:44 < Vox_Humana_8> Ah right
2008-01-02 12:44 < Vox_Humana_8> I thought WP governed its IRC channels
2008-01-02 12:44 < White_Cat> I aam the law!
2008-01-02 12:44 < quanticle> White_Cat: I recognize no law
2008-01-02 12:44 < White_Cat> quanticle then you argree with my law
2008-01-02 12:44 < White_Cat> pure anarchy
2008-01-02 12:45 < OverlordQ> Vox_Humana_8: kinda but not really
2008-01-02 12:45 < quanticle> White_Cat: No, because you just said that you're the law. I recognize no law, therefore, I don't recognize that you're the law
2008-01-02 12:45 < White_Cat> quanticle then you recognise authority
2008-01-02 12:45 < Vox_Humana_8> This is getting really a bit too random...
2008-01-02 12:45 < Sfan00> White_Cat: no, no Stallane is DA LAW!
2008-01-02 12:45 < quanticle> Vox_Humana_8: Welcome to IRC
2008-01-02 12:46 < White_Cat> if I represent pure anarchy you are to obey me in a sense that you do what you please
2008-01-02 12:46 < Sfan00> *Stallonr
2008-01-02 12:46 < Sfan00> *Stallone even
2008-01-02 12:46 < White_Cat> Tweety is the law
2008-01-02 12:46 < quanticle> Sfan00: Wrong. Everyone knows Chuck Norris is the law
2008-01-02 12:46 < NotACow> Vox_Humana_8: i honestly don't give a fuck about some stupid wikipedia policy.
2008-01-02 12:46 < bjweeks> quanticle: are you trying to infer IRC has a history of randomness? blasphemy!
2008-01-02 12:46 < NotACow> Vox_Humana_8: besides, i was NotACow before NotASpy was NotASpy.
2008-01-02 12:46 < Sfan00> IRC is a conspiracy against sanity ;) Nothing random about it
2008-01-02 12:46 < Vox_Humana_8> Ah right, I didn't know you were
2008-01-02 12:47 < White_Cat> NotACow which implies you used to be a cow
2008-01-02 12:47 < Vox_Humana_8> And now Rinn is NotARinn too :O
2008-01-02 12:47 < NotACow> Vox_Humana_8: i'm the second oldest notasomething
2008-01-02 12:47 < quanticle> Sfan00: No, that's 4Chan/b/.
2008-01-02 12:47 < Vox_Humana_8> NotACow - who's the oldest
2008-01-02 12:47 < NotACow> Vox_Humana_8: notafish
2008-01-02 12:47 < quanticle> White_Cat: The name NotACow doesn't imply anything about what he *used* to be
2008-01-02 12:47 < Vox_Humana_8> ?
2008-01-02 12:47 < NotACow> quanticle: i'm not a he, either.
2008-01-02 12:47 < Cyrius> even if Wikimedia governed its IRC channels, why would an enwiki policy apply?
2008-01-02 12:48 < White_Cat> quanticle but her statement does
2008-01-02 12:48 < NotACow> Vox_Humana_8: notafish was the first notasomething.
2008-01-02 12:48 < Vox_Humana_8> Ah right
2008-01-02 12:48 < bjweeks> Cyrius: {{fact}}
2008-01-02 12:48 < White_Cat> Cyrius because en.wiki is the answer to life universe and jimbo
2008-01-02 12:48 < White_Cat> which is just about everything
2008-01-02 12:48 < NotASpy> my username on Wikipedia is Nick, but I can't have the nick "Nick" on IRC, so I've had an island in the North Sea, a poet and various other nicks in my time on IRC.
2008-01-02 12:48 < Drunken_Idiot> White_Cat: Huggles
2008-01-02 12:48 < NotARinn> White_Cat: I am not a rapist. This doesn't imply that I was a rapist at one point.
2008-01-02 12:48 < NotAVox> White_Cat - Shut up you Jimboworshipper
2008-01-02 12:48 < quanticle> White_Cat: Isn't that Wikia?
2008-01-02 12:49 * quanticle picks up White_Cat like an evil dictator
2008-01-02 12:49 < White_Cat> quanticle perhaps
2008-01-02 12:49 < NotAVox> Isn't there a page somewhere on Wiki about the Sacred Church of Jimbo or somesuch?
2008-01-02 12:49 * White_Cat carries a swastica
2008-01-02 12:49 * White_Cat is notabudhist
2008-01-02 12:49 * Drunken_Idiot goes to bed
2008-01-02 12:49 < White_Cat> quanticle remeber
2008-01-02 12:49 < White_Cat> owners get jailed for teahcing their pets nazi crap
2008-01-02 12:49 < NotASpy> it's the Scared Church of Jimbo ;-)
2008-01-02 12:49 < quanticle> White_Cat: Where?
2008-01-02 12:49 < NotAVox> Scared, I like it
2008-01-02 12:49 < White_Cat> germany
2008-01-02 12:49 < NotACow> scared is right, given jimbo's recent rhetorical forays :)
2008-01-02 12:50 < quanticle> NotAVox: Sacred, even...
2008-01-02 12:50 < NotAVox> Can anyone link me to it?
2008-01-02 12:50 < White_Cat> Scared
2008-01-02 12:50 < White_Cat> err
2008-01-02 12:50 < White_Cat> Scarred
2008-01-02 12:50 < White_Cat> Scarred Scared Sacred Jimbo
2008-01-02 12:50 < White_Cat> SSSj
2008-01-02 12:50 < White_Cat> SJ?
2008-01-02 12:50 < quanticle> White_Cat: Heh, set up a redirect from [[Scared Church of Jimbo]] to [[Sacred Church of Jimbo]]
2008-01-02 12:51 < NotARinn> Sacrebleu!
2008-01-02 12:51 < NotAVox> I can't see no redirect, quanticle
2008-01-02 12:51 < quanticle> NotAVox: I haven't made it yet
2008-01-02 12:52 < NotAVox> Ah right
2008-01-02 12:52 < NotACow> DEATH TO REDIRECTS
2008-01-02 12:52 < NotAVox> Heheheheheh!
2008-01-02 12:52 < NotAVox> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Church_of_Jimbo is also non-existent
2008-01-02 12:53 < NotASpy> it'll be under the Wikipedia namespace somewhere.
2008-01-02 12:53 < NotAVox> Ah right
2008-01-02 12:53 < NotAVox> I'll just google it
2008-01-02 12:55 < rahull> is it against policy to write articles about tv episodes?
2008-01-02 12:55 < rahull> or is there some catches in it
2008-01-02 12:55 < quanticle> NotAVox: Googling "Sacred Church of Jimbo" returns no results
2008-01-02 12:55 < quanticle> rahull: No real policy.
2008-01-02 12:55 < NotAVox> I can see that, Quanticle!
2008-01-02 12:55 < rahull> cos I see articles on all episodes of Seinfeld, but none of Boston Legal
2008-01-02 12:55 < bjweeks> rahull: I think it is acceptable
2008-01-02 12:56 < quanticle> rahull: {{sofixit}}
2008-01-02 12:57 < OverlordQ> ahhh, so that's the template
2008-01-02 12:58 < NotAVox> quanticle - the nearest thing I've been able to turn up merely mentions Jimbocracy, but there's no page of that name
2008-01-02 13:00 < quanticle> NotAVox: Perhaps the page should be created?
2008-01-02 13:01 < NotAVox> Quanticle - how? One, I'm no Yank, so I'm not stupid enough to get involved in the world of Jimbo-worship. Two, I have no experience and no sources for such.
2008-01-02 13:02 < Sfan00> What Jimbo is the head of a Wiki cult?
2008-01-02 13:02 < quanticle> NotAVox: Relax, my suggestion was merely in jest
2008-01-02 13:02 < Sfan00> When did this happen ;)
2008-01-02 13:02 < quanticle> Sfan00: Yeah, they have their own secret mailing list and everything
2008-01-02 13:02 < NotAVox> quanticle: sarcasm doesn't come over well in text
2008-01-02 13:02 < NotASpy> you'll need a small island, a few natives and a couple of signed photos. It worked for Prince Philip, it might work for Jimbo...
2008-01-02 13:03 < NotAVox> NotASpy? What are you talking about?
2008-01-02 13:03 < NotACow> Sfan00: back in 2001, i believe
2008-01-02 13:03 < quanticle> NotAVox: Starting a cult
2008-01-02 13:03 < Sfan00> I think she was making a jest about the Brtish Royal Family...
2008-01-02 13:03 < NotASpy> there's a small island in the South Pacific which worships Prince Philip as a God.
2008-01-02 13:04 < Sfan00> {{fact}}
2008-01-02 13:04 < NotAVox> Sfan00 - NotASpy appears by his en-wiki username (Nick) to be male
2008-01-02 13:04 < NotAVox> NotASpy - you are kidding about this island, aren't you?
2008-01-02 13:04 < Sfan00> Ah... I am getting all the NotA.. confused...
2008-01-02 13:04 < NotASpy> nope
2008-01-02 13:04 < quanticle> NotAVox: Nope
2008-01-02 13:04 < quanticle> NotAVox: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/19/wphilip19.xml
2008-01-02 13:04 < Sfan00> Apologies If I have misgendered peop[le on IRC
2008-01-02 13:05 < quanticle> NotAVox: The island is Vanuatu, btw...
2008-01-02 13:05 < quanticle> "We don't know where England is but we know he lives there and he has four children: Charlie, Andrew, Edward and Anna [sic]," said Jimmy Nipil, a tribe member in his thirties. "We believe England is a very special place."
2008-01-02 13:06 < Sfan00> England is special...
2008-01-02 13:08 < NotAVox> Heheheheheh!!!
2008-01-02 13:12 < green_cat> Hi, Richard_Balls
2008-01-02 13:13 < quanticle> green_cat: Another cat! :(
2008-01-02 13:13 < Cyrius> quanticle: at least it's not another Nota
2008-01-02 13:13 < green_dog> quanticle: happy?
2008-01-02 13:13 < quanticle> Yeah.
2008-01-02 13:13 < green_dog> I also have green_budgie
2008-01-02 13:14 * quanticle actually owns a green_budgie
2008-01-02 13:14 < NotAVox> Hahahahahahah!
2008-01-02 13:14 < NotAVox> Maybe I should revert my name change
2008-01-02 13:15 < NotACow> maybe you should stop talking like a wikiaddict :)
2008-01-02 13:16 < NotAVox> NotACow is actually seemingly disproving her name :P
2008-01-02 13:16 < NotABow> Thought I'd carry on the theme ;-)
2008-01-02 13:18 < NotAVox> NotABow - fuck off.
2008-01-02 13:18 < NotAVox> :P
2008-01-02 13:19 < NotADog> ?
2008-01-02 13:19 < NotADog> Maybe?
2008-01-02 13:19 < NotADog> Not?
2008-01-02 13:20 < NotAVox> NotADog - please! This is getting confusing!
2008-01-02 13:20 * kim_bruning is notamike ;-)
2008-01-02 13:20 < kim_bruning> (or a pete, or a john :-P )
2008-01-02 13:21 * green_pillow stops, and requests ideas for his next green_something nick
2008-01-02 13:21 < kim_bruning> Vox Populi, Vox Dei?
2008-01-02 13:21 < Vox_Humana_8> Shaddap
2008-01-02 13:22 < kim_bruning> Hello! I hadn't actually met you before
2008-01-02 13:22 < green_pillow> No, as in green_cow, green_dog, green_peanut, green_budgie & green_pillow
2008-01-02 13:22 < kim_bruning> sorry to tease you right away. ;-)
2008-01-02 13:23 < jeronim> budgie_smuggler is a good nick
2008-01-02 13:23 < kim_bruning> yay budgies!
2008-01-02 13:23 < Spar> -
2008-01-02 13:23 < green_badger_smu> grrr
2008-01-02 13:26 < kim_bruning> http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
2008-01-02 13:26 < kim_bruning> those are black and white though
2008-01-02 13:26 < mushroommushroom> :D
2008-01-02 13:27 < mushroommushroom> badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom
2008-01-02 13:28 < bjweeks> snaaaaaake
2008-01-02 13:29 < jasoncalacanis> If i were looking for a researcher for a MediaWiki based project would it be ok to mention here?
2008-01-02 13:30 < bjweeks> wait, what?
2008-01-02 13:30 < Sfan00> jasonclacanis: You could also try #Wikimedia
2008-01-02 13:30 < Cyrius> a researcher for dowhatnow?
2008-01-02 13:30 < Sfan00> Whats the nature of the project?
2008-01-02 13:30 < kim_bruning> just beware of magical trevor : http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/magical+trevor/
2008-01-02 13:31 < jasoncalacanis> looking for a research to help with news coverage. They need to have solid grammar/spelling and ability to find links
2008-01-02 13:31 < jasoncalacanis> not a programmer, a research who knows wiki media markup
2008-01-02 13:31 < jasoncalacanis> and who is addicted to news
2008-01-02 13:31 < Sfan00> jasonclaacanis: News coverage of what?
2008-01-02 13:31 < Cyrius> #wikinews ?
2008-01-02 13:31 < kim_bruning> #wikinews!
2008-01-02 13:31 < Sfan00> Is this related to #Wikinews?
2008-01-02 13:32 < Cyrius> they're probably a better fit
2008-01-02 13:32 < green_pillow> Or #unnews?
2008-01-02 13:32 < green_pillow> Aargh! Uncyclopaedia!
2008-01-02 13:32 < Cyrius> hehe
2008-01-02 13:32 < green_pillow> Note the ae.
2008-01-02 13:33 < jasoncalacanis> i'm looking for a couple of folks to work remote on news/research at Mahalo.com. Must have perfect grammar/spelling and be addicted to news. no need to be in US, but must have perfect english spelling/grammar
2008-01-02 13:33 < Aqwis> *the US
2008-01-02 13:34 < green_pillow> Ah, but you lot don't seem to have the color for it, I mean, I spell it colour. Not quite perfect spelling?
2008-01-02 13:34 < bjweeks> "Must have perfect grammar/spelling" wrong group of people you have here :p
2008-01-02 13:34 < green_pillow> We just use spellcheck
2008-01-02 13:37 < bjweeks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bjweeks
2008-01-02 13:37 < bjweeks> see the bottom
2008-01-02 13:38 < Sfan00> bjweeks : ROFL
2008-01-02 13:38 < green_spee> {{userbox|h4x0r|IP address of this user's posts have been linked to hacking sites. This user may be a hacker and should be carefully watched.}}
2008-01-02 13:38 < bjweeks> seems like random vandalism
2008-01-02 13:39 < bjweeks> I don't get it though
2008-01-02 13:39 < IceKarma> heh. my cat is going as crazy over a shirt of my husband's as she would over catnip.
2008-01-02 13:40 < bjweeks> IceKarma: your husband clearly has been seeing other cats
2008-01-02 13:42 * NotACow signed up for mahalo ages ago, but never did anything for it
2008-01-02 13:42 < NotACow> the mailing list was too noisy and it was difficult to figure out what, if anything, one was supposed to do
2008-01-02 13:46 < IceKarma> NotACow, heh, The View (man, my husband has bad taste in TV) just had "Mahalo water" (expensive bottled water from Hawai`i) on a segment about insanely-expensive foods
2008-01-02 13:47 < NotACow> IceKarma: heh
2008-01-02 13:47 < NotACow> the water in hawaii was ok.
2008-01-02 13:47 < NotACow> not any better than the water in wisconsin, though
2008-01-02 13:47 < IceKarma> NotACow, the host doing the sampling said both bottled waters tasted like tap water.
2008-01-02 13:47 < HeartOfDarkness> looks like another crappy "exciting" internet venture by some asshats
2008-01-02 13:48 < Sfan00> jasoncalacanis: You could post your 'advert' here as well, but most people in here are miltiantly anti-spam :(
2008-01-02 13:48 * bjweeks just put about 30 page up for deletion
2008-01-02 13:49 < jasoncalacanis> icekarma: Mahalo is Hawaiian for thank you (as I'm sure you know)
2008-01-02 13:50 < IceKarma> jasoncalacanis, yes.
2008-01-02 13:50 * zuzak thinks bjweeks' pages were all to do with Pokémon
2008-01-02 13:50 < HeartOfDarkness> as is usually the case it all boils down to: "what to people get paid for working for these creeps and how much of that do the creeps keep/control".
2008-01-02 13:50 < IceKarma> bjweeks, speedy? prod? afd?
2008-01-02 13:51 < bjweeks> nah, voip spam
2008-01-02 13:51 < bjweeks> IceKarma: 2 AfDs, the rest Proded
2008-01-02 13:51 < Cyrius> HeartOfDarkness: you seem to be attempting to make a scene
2008-01-02 13:51 < HeartOfDarkness> if it turns out it's not a profit seeking venture, my bad
2008-01-02 13:51 < OverlordQ> perfect english and grammar? aghahga, in the wrong channel for that
2008-01-02 13:51 < bjweeks> OverlordQ: I already made that joke :p
2008-01-02 13:52 < HeartOfDarkness> *what do people ...
2008-01-02 13:52 < OverlordQ> I dont care, i missed it
2008-01-02 13:52 < OverlordQ> so it didn't happen
2008-01-02 13:52 * OverlordQ puts fingers in ears
2008-01-02 13:52 < OverlordQ> lalalalal cant hear you
2008-01-02 13:53 < NotACow> wikipedia is a profit-seeking venture
2008-01-02 13:53 < NotACow> it just hasn't done a very good job of it so far.
2008-01-02 13:54 < zuzak> :)
2008-01-02 13:54 < NotACow> damn enciclopedia libre zealots!
2008-01-02 13:54 * zuzak goes to donate money and fails due to no credit card
2008-01-02 13:55 < Lycurgus> of course I was referring to mahalo.com not wp
2008-01-02 13:56 < Lycurgus> and Norton-Cramden dot bombs in general.
2008-01-02 13:57 < NotACow> boom
2008-01-02 13:57 < NotACow> boom
2008-01-02 13:57 < NotACow> boom
2008-01-02 13:58 * green_peanut sings "RING RING RING RING RING RING RING Banana Phone!"
2008-01-02 13:58 * green_peanut thinks that you just lost the game
2008-01-02 13:58 * Cyrius shoots green_peanut
2008-01-02 13:58 < NotACow> bing bang bong splat
2008-01-02 13:58 < IceKarma> wtf is this "game"?
2008-01-02 13:58 < NotACow> IceKarma: there's no such thing
2008-01-02 13:59 < green_peanut> IceKarma: you don't want to know
2008-01-02 14:00 < NotACow> IceKarma: it's a viral internet meme.
2008-01-02 14:00 < NotACow> IceKarma: best ignored.
2008-01-02 14:01 < Lycurgus> you mean best not to know right (which is my case)?
2008-01-02 14:01 < Kieff> IceKarma: goddamnit
2008-01-02 14:01 < Kieff> IceKarma: I lost
2008-01-02 14:01 < NotACow> ignorance is bliss.
2008-01-02 14:01 < IceKarma> Kieff, dammit, it's "dammit" or "damn it", not "damnit" :P
2008-01-02 14:01 * green_peanut wants to tell everyone that he did NOT get it from the internet, and instead a PGL holiday
2008-01-02 14:02 < Kieff> IceKarma: hmm
2008-01-02 14:02 < Kieff> IceKarma: thanks, that's good to know
2008-01-02 14:02 < Kieff> damn it!
2008-01-02 14:02 < NotACow> i don't know much about this game but i never hear of anyone winning it, and always about people losing it, so it sounds like a really bum deal to me
2008-01-02 14:02 < Kieff> dammit looks too odd
2008-01-02 14:02 < NotACow> sometimes the best move is not to play
2008-01-02 14:02 < green_peanut> NotACow: You win if everyone else is playing
2008-01-02 14:02 < green_peanut> And it's not global thermonuclear war, NotACow
2008-01-02 14:03 < Cyrius> "the game" is lame.
2008-01-02 14:03 < green_peanut> Wow! You should be a poet
2008-01-02 14:03 < Kieff> Cyrius: I tend to agree, but I find the concept very interesting
2008-01-02 14:03 < Cyrius> I don't
2008-01-02 14:03 < NotACow> i'd rather play mao.
2008-01-02 14:04 < Kieff> Cyrius: it's a meme that asks you to forget about it
2008-01-02 14:04 < Lycurgus> yi zhi mao!
2008-01-02 14:04 < IceKarma> Kieff, English is an illogical and inconsistent language, get used to it ;)
2008-01-02 14:04 < Kieff> IceKarma: can't be worse than portuguese
2008-01-02 14:04 < Kieff> IceKarma: and it isn't.
2008-01-02 14:04 < Kieff> oh, and Portuguese, yeah
2008-01-02 14:05 < IceKarma> Kieff, personally, I find pt_* very interesting
2008-01-02 14:05 < IceKarma> Kieff, if you look at the standard languages on the Iberian peninsula, Spanish and Portuguese, you find that Spanish resembles Italian more, whereas Portuguese resembles French more
2008-01-02 14:06 < IceKarma> Kieff, but when you look "under the hood" at all the dialects that are spoken, the picture becomes much more clear
2008-01-02 14:06 < NotACow> arvanitic.
2008-01-02 14:06 < green_peanut> http://www.savethegame.org/
2008-01-02 14:06 < DI> Cant sleep !
2008-01-02 14:07 < NotACow> there's virtually no difference between arvanitic and tosk albanian
2008-01-02 14:07 < NotACow> but if you try to claim that they're the same language, two groups of very angry people will try to kill you
2008-01-02 14:07 < OverlordQ> man i just lost a game I wasn't playing
2008-01-02 14:07 < Lycurgus> oh, you know I was at wikia earler today and didn't even get till now that it is the profit seeking arm of WP, Inc.
2008-01-02 14:07 * Drunken_Idiot anyone got tips .. How to sleep ?
2008-01-02 14:07 < NotACow> Drunken_Idiot: whiskey.
2008-01-02 14:08 < Lycurgus> DI: so what happened with Mussharafs speech?
2008-01-02 14:08 < NotACow> Lycurgus: wikia was the second effort at trying to make money off of wikipedia...
2008-01-02 14:08 < NotACow> Lycurgus: the original idea, to make money off it directly, made a lot of people really angry and was abandoned as a result
2008-01-02 14:08 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: Well anyone whoever disturbs the city mostly Sindh refering to PPP Bhutto's party will be hangged for sure.
2008-01-02 14:09 < Lycurgus> if Sindh rebelled would pakistan fall apart?
2008-01-02 14:09 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: What I know of my greatgrand father's Political works and I learnt in the family...
2008-01-02 14:09 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, and who would get to keep the pieces?
2008-01-02 14:10 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: He believed someday Pakistan would break up people like Altaf Hossein would control Sindh.
2008-01-02 14:10 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: Well the reply to you're answer very much so.
2008-01-02 14:10 < Lycurgus> I should think so since the Northwest is practically already in revolt
2008-01-02 14:11 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: Let me tell you a story if you're intrested.
2008-01-02 14:11 < Lycurgus> sure
2008-01-02 14:11 < green_peanut> http://www.losethegame.com/strategies.htm Bottom of page.... who dares to do it?
2008-01-02 14:11 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: In 1954 exactly
2008-01-02 14:12 < Kieff> green_peanut: better not be a lobotomy
2008-01-02 14:12 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: The Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Shah , The king of Iraq , Turkey and Pakistan / Iskander Mirza.
2008-01-02 14:12 < green_peanut> lobotomy?
2008-01-02 14:12 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: The Signed an agreement which was to form an alliance.
2008-01-02 14:13 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: In 1957 Iskander Mirza becomes First President of Pakistan.
2008-01-02 14:13 < Drunken_Idiot> The situation between Iran, Pakistan , Turkey and Iraq changes.
2008-01-02 14:13 < Drunken_Idiot> There are new plans for the alliance.
2008-01-02 14:13 < Drunken_Idiot> Iskander Mirza and The Shah meet the king of Iraq in the same year.
2008-01-02 14:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Then while they are coming back there are shootings from the ground. CIA orderd to do so.
2008-01-02 14:14 < Drunken_Idiot> The king of Iraq is killed.
2008-01-02 14:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Adnan Turkish Prime Minister House arrest later hangged.
2008-01-02 14:14 < Drunken_Idiot> Iskander Mirza exiled 1958 by order of CIA to Ayub Khan.
2008-01-02 14:14 < Drunken_Idiot> The Shah is removed.
2008-01-02 14:15 < Lycurgus> I see. Did U.S. Presidential candidate Huckabees statement about Pakistani illegal immigrants get any exposure there?
2008-01-02 14:15 < Drunken_Idiot> That's the story.
2008-01-02 14:15 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: None
2008-01-02 14:15 < Lycurgus> makes sense with all that's going on
2008-01-02 14:16 < Drunken_Idiot> Hath this alliance be formed frankly speaking US wouldnt be the super-power right now.
2008-01-02 14:16 < Drunken_Idiot> I know this because I am Iskander Mirza's great grand son.
2008-01-02 14:16 < OverlordQ> I'm related to steve mcqueen, FEAR MY DRIVING SKILL
2008-01-02 14:16 < OverlordQ> S
2008-01-02 14:16 < Drunken_Idiot> Oh yeh
2008-01-02 14:17 < Drunken_Idiot> This plan was first taught by Liaqaat Ali Khan
2008-01-02 14:17 < Drunken_Idiot> who was assinated
2008-01-02 14:18 < Drunken_Idiot> Kashmir was solved infact.
2008-01-02 14:18 < Drunken_Idiot> If Iskander Mirza wasn't exiled the next day kashmir would have been part of Pakistan.
2008-01-02 14:19 < Drunken_Idiot> I hate the govnt. secrecy.
2008-01-02 14:19 < Lycurgus> well sorry to have to tell you this but President Bush has announced that Pakistan is his governments No. 1 Foreign Policy for 2008.
2008-01-02 14:20 < green_peanut> :(
2008-01-02 14:20 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: I know that.
2008-01-02 14:20 < Lycurgus> *item
2008-01-02 14:20 < bjweeks> Lycurgus: by foreign policy does he mean invading it?
2008-01-02 14:21 < Drunken_Idiot> Dont want to say Iskander Mirza , but he did say so that Mullahs / Fundimentalists will cause problems and make Pakistan a dangerous country and each successive government in future will fail.
2008-01-02 14:22 < Lycurgus> bjweeks: I don't think he has been told yet what he meant.
2008-01-02 14:22 < Drunken_Idiot> Foreign Policy can vary, for example order Musharaf to kill Nawaz Sharif.
2008-01-02 14:23 < LEN[i]X> I posted some article on the arabic wikipedia but I can't find it in search, posted it like before 9 hours ago, what would be the problem here?
2008-01-02 14:23 < Drunken_Idiot> There isn't much evidence to prove that Osama bin Laden is still working for CIA or not.
2008-01-02 14:23 < green_peanut> :D
2008-01-02 14:23 < NotACow> LEN[i]X: go to #wikimedia-tech and ask there
2008-01-02 14:23 < LEN[i]X> Aight, ty
2008-01-02 14:23 < IceKarma> LEN[i]X, index may be out of date, article may have been deleted, etc.
2008-01-02 14:24 * Drunken_Idiot isnt an idiot really or drunkard:)
2008-01-02 14:24 < LEN[i]X> IceKarma, dont think its deleted as i find it in my contributions
2008-01-02 14:25 < IceKarma> LEN[i]X, and you can get to the article through the entry in your contribs?
2008-01-02 14:25 < LEN[i]X> ya
2008-01-02 14:25 < IceKarma> LEN[i]X, then it's probably our "wonderful" built-in search
2008-01-02 14:25 < Lycurgus> then it's search
2008-01-02 14:25 < Lycurgus> prolly can't handle arabic
2008-01-02 14:27 < NotACow> it handles chinese
2008-01-02 14:27 < NotACow> arabic should be a cakewalk in comparison
2008-01-02 14:27 < Lycurgus> well, not really
2008-01-02 14:27 < IceKarma> NotACow, with Chinese, you can, at first approximation, treat each character as a headword
2008-01-02 14:28 < Lycurgus> member we were talking about the letters earlier?
2008-01-02 14:28 < Drunken_Idiot> I wonder if it can handle Farsi properly.
2008-01-02 14:28 < IceKarma> NotACow, but if you think spelling in English is bad, take a close look at Arabic sometime
2008-01-02 14:28 < Lycurgus> they actually, in principle anyway, make search faster in Hanzi (chinese letters)
2008-01-02 14:28 < IceKarma> NotACow, the Arabic script is barely suitable for writing Arabic, never mind all the -other- languages it's been pressed into service for with abysmal results
2008-01-02 14:28 < NotACow> IceKarma: heh
2008-01-02 14:28 < IceKarma> s/suitable/adequate/
2008-01-02 14:29 < Drunken_Idiot> IceKarma: I can read arabic :P
2008-01-02 14:29 < Lycurgus> arabic is still alphabetic
2008-01-02 14:29 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, not true
2008-01-02 14:29 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, the Arabic script is an abjad
2008-01-02 14:29 < Lycurgus> arabic is not alphabetic?
2008-01-02 14:29 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, no. Arabic only has one kind of sign - consonantal
2008-01-02 14:29 < NotACow> does that mean "something which is like Arabic script"?
2008-01-02 14:29 < NotACow> IceKarma: oh, imputed vowels.
2008-01-02 14:29 < Drunken_Idiot> Lycurgus: Do you want a sample to a link to arabic?
2008-01-02 14:29 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, you need consonants -and- vowels to be an alphabet
2008-01-02 14:29 < Lycurgus> oh that
2008-01-02 14:30 < IceKarma> there are alphabets, abjads, abugidas, and probably more classes I'm forgetting
2008-01-02 14:30 < Lycurgus> the vowels are either implies or expressed with diacritical marks
2008-01-02 14:30 < IceKarma> (abugidas are all-consonant with inherent vowels)
2008-01-02 14:30 < Drunken_Idiot> IceKarma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_alphabet
2008-01-02 14:30 < Lycurgus> s/s/d/
2008-01-02 14:30 < Bennity> Hey, what is the wiki markup to strike out text?
2008-01-02 14:30 < IceKarma> Bennity, <s>...</s>
2008-01-02 14:30 < Bennity> thanks
2008-01-02 14:31 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, the system of notating vowels was invented a (long?) time after the abjad
2008-01-02 14:31 < Lycurgus> SFAIK, you can't have a audible human language without vowels
2008-01-02 14:31 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, oh, the Arabic language has vowels
2008-01-02 14:31 < Lycurgus> or spoken rather
2008-01-02 14:31 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, but the script (mostly) doesn't bother to record them
2008-01-02 14:31 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, don't fall into the trap of equating the script with the language
2008-01-02 14:32 * Drunken_Idiot going to eat n go to bed night all
2008-01-02 14:32 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, and it's the structure of the Semitic family of languages that lets them get away with not writing the vowels down
2008-01-02 14:32 < Lycurgus> well for the purposes of search I have to
2008-01-02 14:32 * Drunken_Idiot anyone wants further questions on Stock markets , politics n bluh .> user:HumayunMirzajr
2008-01-02 14:32 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, no, for the purposes of search you have to treat the script as an encoding of the language
2008-01-02 14:33 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, that's not the same as "equivalent to the language"
2008-01-02 14:33 < Lycurgus> right, a reference representation both common users and the machine can agree on without negotiating
2008-01-02 14:33 < Lycurgus> which normally would be whatever the common computer script was
2008-01-02 14:34 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, similar, on at least an abstract level, to the difference between the various encodings of Chinese not substantially affecting the content of the text
2008-01-02 14:34 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, (yes, I do realize that along with encoding differences there _are_ dialectical differences and vocabulary differences)
2008-01-02 14:34 < IceKarma> Lycurgus, (different dimensions collapsing together into one)
2008-01-02 14:35 < Lycurgus> right, except the chinse characters most have meaning which is what I was referring to search algorithms could exploit
2008-01-02 14:35 < Lycurgus> nearly all are words in their own right
2008-01-02 14:39 < Lycurgus> the characters themselves also have structure which can similarly be exploited but not so much
2008-01-02 14:52 < Conny> Good day from [[Pillnitz]].
2008-01-02 14:57 < Lycurgus> mobend Conny.
2008-01-02 14:57 < Conny> so quite here :D .
2008-01-02 14:58 < Lycurgus> yep, just us quite people
2008-01-02 14:59 < Lycurgus> bbiab, errandry.
2008-01-02 15:09 < TheWeasel> Ein Radeberger.
2008-01-02 15:09 < TheWeasel> :-P
2008-01-02 15:10 < shimgray> http://biphenyl.org/blog/2008/01/01/citation-needed/ - marvellous!
2008-01-02 15:10 < TheWeasel> eh, I should take to doing that
2008-01-02 15:12 < kim_bruning> shimgray, woot
2008-01-02 15:12 < Conny> :D
2008-01-02 15:13 < TheWeasel> or if it says "DUE TO CITY CHARTER, BEACH IS OFF LIMITS TO NUDISTS" I'd put "dubious, see talk page"
2008-01-02 15:13 < TheWeasel> if it's just an interpretation of an anti-offensive-behavior clause
2008-01-02 15:15 < kim_bruning> TheWeasel, HEh!
2008-01-02 15:17 < IceKarma> okay, I'm amused, I haven't watched any of the Degrassi series in years, and while I don't recognize any of the actors on "Degrassi: The Next Generation", I recognize character names
2008-01-02 15:18 < Messedrocker> DEGRASSI
2008-01-02 15:18 < Messedrocker> the NEXT GENERATION
2008-01-02 15:18 < Messedrocker> starring PATRICK STEWART!
2008-01-02 15:18 < Mike_H> IceKarma: that's so Canadian
2008-01-02 15:19 < Mike_H> and damn it
2008-01-02 15:19 < Mike_H> I missed Days of our Lives today
2008-01-02 15:19 < IceKarma> Mike_H, what, Degrassi?
2008-01-02 15:22 < IceKarma> OMG, it appears to be a continuation of an ancient plot line!
2008-01-02 15:23 < White_Cat> Messedrocker patric stewart is a shining star with his bald head
2008-01-02 15:23 < nazgjunk_> maybe just a remake?
2008-01-02 15:23 < IceKarma> no, it's clearly a continuation
2008-01-02 15:27 < IceKarma> given that one of the characters is the daughter from "Spike"'s last pregnancy, during "Degrassi Junior High"
2008-01-02 15:28 < Mike_H> We watch good soaps here
2008-01-02 15:28 < Rinn> The topic is far too short.
2008-01-02 15:28 < Mike_H> like Days
2008-01-02 15:28 < Mike_H> and Y&R
2008-01-02 15:28 < IceKarma> Mike_H, if it hadn't just ended, I'd be looking for the remote
2008-01-02 15:28 < Messedrocker> Youth and Remembrance?
2008-01-02 15:28 < IceKarma> Young and Restless
2008-01-02 15:29 * IceKarma gags at knowing that.
2008-01-02 15:29 < Mike_H> IceKarma: I was able to watch some Y&R when I was back at home
2008-01-02 15:29 < Mike_H> because we're in a different time zone and it's shifted
2008-01-02 15:29 < bjweeks> Mike_H: good and soap in the same sentence?
2008-01-02 15:29 < Mike_H> so I wasn't doing anything at 11 a.m.
2008-01-02 15:29 < IceKarma> I lived with a "Days" fanatic at one point
2008-01-02 15:29 < Mike_H> bjweeks: yes.
2008-01-02 15:30 < Mike_H> IceKarma: Honestly, Days fans are probably the most widespread among gay men
2008-01-02 15:30 < IceKarma> after a couple months, I found myself wondering, while unable to sleep one night, about some long-since-forgotten plot point in Days
2008-01-02 15:30 < Mike_H> I've found that talking about soaps at the bar almost always gets a positive reaction, and when I ask which show, it's Days
2008-01-02 15:30 < Mike_H> very rarely is it another show.
2008-01-02 15:30 < Messedrocker> the gay bar?
2008-01-02 15:30 < IceKarma> Mike_H, I am NOT a Days fan, and the flatmate was female.
2008-01-02 15:30 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: No, the bar exam.
2008-01-02 15:30 < Mike_H> Yes, the gay bar.
2008-01-02 15:31 < IceKarma> Mike_H, I've been infected by it, I know way more than I want to about it (i.e., nothing), but I am _NOT_ a fan. :P
2008-01-02 15:31 < Mike_H> IceKarma: oh don't fight it.
2008-01-02 15:31 < Mike_H> Stefano is hypnotic.
2008-01-02 15:31 < IceKarma> I have been known to leave the room when it comes on
2008-01-02 15:31 < Mike_H> Stefano DiMera (alias the Phoenix) is a fictional character, a villain on the American soap opera Days of our Lives, played by Joseph Mascolo (1982-1985, 1988, 1993-2001, 2007-).
2008-01-02 15:32 < IceKarma> Mike_H, if the plot were even halfway coherent, I _might_ be able to tolerate it
2008-01-02 15:32 < Mike_H> IceKarma: It's coherent to people who watch it every day
2008-01-02 15:32 < IceKarma> Mike_H, ... psycho bitch turning into a man for a story arc is coherent?
2008-01-02 15:32 < Mike_H> as far as it making sense in the real world? I think soap fans have resigned themselves to the fact that soap plots aren't like the real world, and casual viewers don't get that
2008-01-02 15:33 < Mike_H> If I wanted real world, I'd watch EastEnders or something
2008-01-02 15:33 < Mike_H> I like Days because it's relatable yet not anything like the world. It's pure escapist TV.
2008-01-02 15:33 < TheWeasel> ...which is what exactly?
2008-01-02 15:33 < TheWeasel> eh
2008-01-02 15:34 < Mike_H> I mean, you can have a relatable storyline about Sami's bulimia, and then a wacko storyline about how Stefano is possessing John's memory chip that's lodged in his brain.
2008-01-02 15:34 < Mike_H> You can feel like you know the people, and at the same time have some flights of fancy.
2008-01-02 15:34 < IceKarma> my mother used to be a religious Coronation St fan
2008-01-02 15:34 < IceKarma> that was bad enough
2008-01-02 15:34 < Mike_H> Coronation Street is nothing like Days
2008-01-02 15:34 < Mike_H> Days has pretty people
2008-01-02 15:34 < Mike_H> Some of the most famous Corrie actors couldn't even get extra parts on Days because they're that ugly.
2008-01-02 15:35 < IceKarma> (consequently, there are Britishisms loged in the deepest strata of my vocabulary)
2008-01-02 15:35 < Mike_H> is that right, chuck?
2008-01-02 15:35 < IceKarma> Mike_H, that's "chook"
2008-01-02 15:35 < IceKarma> Mike_H, which is, for the record, a word meaning "chicken", as in the bird
2008-01-02 15:35 < Mike_H> IceKarma: innit?
2008-01-02 15:35 < IceKarma> Mike_H, well, at least you spell that right ;)
2008-01-02 15:36 < Mike_H> and here I thought I'd have gotten nowt right.
2008-01-02 15:36 < Mike_H> :D
2008-01-02 15:36 < IceKarma> and although it's not always used right, it's a contraction of "isn't it"
2008-01-02 15:36 < Mike_H> IceKarma: honey, my grandmother is from Liverpool
2008-01-02 15:36 < Mike_H> I know what these words mean
2008-01-02 15:36 < Mike_H> :)
2008-01-02 15:36 < Messedrocker> heh, a contraction of a contraction and a two-letter word
2008-01-02 15:36 < IceKarma> "i'n't it?", if you will
2008-01-02 15:37 < TheWeasel> dat right gud, init blud
2008-01-02 15:37 < Messedrocker> whenever some says "blud" like that i always think of The Bloods
2008-01-02 15:37 < IceKarma> Messedrocker, if you like that, you might like "ta", rhymes with "paw", short for "thanks"
2008-01-02 15:37 < Messedrocker> maybe because I'm American
2008-01-02 15:37 < Mike_H> IceKarma: ta-ra!
2008-01-02 15:37 < Messedrocker> IceKarma I know about "ta"
2008-01-02 15:37 * IceKarma is still looking for the two-letter abbreviation for "you're welcome" ;)
2008-01-02 15:38 < Rinn> yw
2008-01-02 15:38 < IceKarma> Rinn, you can't really say that out loud.
2008-01-02 15:38 < Mike_H> IceKarma: I love "ta-ra"
2008-01-02 15:38 < Mike_H> i'll totally say that here
2008-01-02 15:38 < Mike_H> and people don't know what that means
2008-01-02 15:38 < IceKarma> Mike_H, you can include me in that group
2008-01-02 15:38 < Mike_H> you know, like me waving and walking away wasn't an indication
2008-01-02 15:38 < Rinn> Ta-ra-ra boom-dee-ay!
2008-01-02 15:38 < Mike_H> ta-ra = goodbye
2008-01-02 15:38 < IceKarma> Mike_H, ... not "ta-ta"?
2008-01-02 15:38 < Mike_H> no, ta-ra
2008-01-02 15:39 < Messedrocker> ta 'n ta-ra
2008-01-02 15:39 < IceKarma> I hardly know everything about British slang, but I've never heard "ta-ra"
2008-01-02 15:39 < Messedrocker> i saw that phrase before
2008-01-02 15:39 < IceKarma> "ta-ta", sure, but not "ta-ra"
2008-01-02 15:39 < Mike_H> (British informal or baby talk) goodbye; equivalent to the more geographically widespread tata
2008-01-02 15:39 < IceKarma> ... or at least, I can't remember having heard such
2008-01-02 15:39 < Mike_H> I guess ta-ra is northern.
2008-01-02 15:39 < Mike_H> but they do say it
2008-01-02 15:39 < Mike_H> my grandmother is northern
2008-01-02 15:40 < Mike_H> like, you're not
2008-01-02 15:40 < Mike_H> so, okay
2008-01-02 15:40 < IceKarma> oh, well, actual _English_ slang I'm a bit weak in, not actually having lived in the UK myself
2008-01-02 15:40 < Aqwis2> can someone just delete this image? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Oslo_coat.png it's superseded by two(!) better images and has an invalid fair use rationale
2008-01-02 15:40 < Mike_H> NB: Stress on 2nd syllable, unlike the proper name Tara
2008-01-02 15:40 < Mike_H> tuh-RAH
2008-01-02 15:40 < Schroeder> you know, Indy's run to the Super Bowl last season was an incredible story
2008-01-02 15:41 < mavhk> IceKarma: it's quite easy, just say "fuck" a lot
2008-01-02 15:41 < IceKarma> Mike_H, I was expecting that
2008-01-02 15:41 < TheWeasel> ta-ra is the stereotypical brass fanfare here
2008-01-02 15:41 < Schroeder> first, the league's worst run defense had to stop one of history's greatest running attacks
2008-01-02 15:41 < IceKarma> TheWeasel, I'd call that "ta-da"
2008-01-02 15:41 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-01-02 15:41 < Schroeder> then, they had to go into the team's old hometown, and the greatest offense in history had to win on the strength of the team's placekicker
2008-01-02 15:42 < Schroeder> finally, they had to mount the most amazing comeback ever in the greatest rivalry of the last decade in pro sports
2008-01-02 15:42 < Schroeder> and finally, a dome team had to win IN THE RAIN
2008-01-02 15:42 * IceKarma enjoys discussing regional English usage with people who realize there are no hard and fast rules and no universals
2008-01-02 15:43 < Mike_H> IceKarma: msg
2008-01-02 15:43 * TheWeasel is well knackered
2008-01-02 15:45 < Messedrocker> IceKarma, unlike the wacky French, we don't regulate the English language
2008-01-02 15:45 < IceKarma> Mike_H, thanks, not used to this client
2008-01-02 15:45 < Messedrocker> however, the Queen's English is considered to be an international standard
2008-01-02 15:45 < IceKarma> Messedrocker, exactly, but some people are utterly convinced that the garbage they were taught in school is the absolute and complete truth
2008-01-02 15:46 < Messedrocker> they didn't teach grammar when i was younger
2008-01-02 15:46 < Messedrocker> so here i am now in the 10th grade learning a LOT about grammar
2008-01-02 15:46 < Messedrocker> (rather, I *was* learning about grammar)
2008-01-02 15:48 < bjweeks> Messedrocker: grammar is a hard concept, most adults don't seem to get it right
2008-01-02 15:49 < Bungle> most adults don't "understand" it
2008-01-02 15:49 < Bungle> understanding is fundamental to getting it right
2008-01-02 15:49 < kim_bruning> most folks don't understand anything
2008-01-02 15:50 < Mike_H> It's so cold here
2008-01-02 15:51 < Mike_H> It's still light out
2008-01-02 15:51 < Mike_H> and it's 48 degrees
2008-01-02 15:51 < Cyrius> huh, 47F here
2008-01-02 15:51 < Mike_H> Cyrius: where are you again?
2008-01-02 15:51 < Mike_H> Houston?
2008-01-02 15:51 < Cyrius> close enough
2008-01-02 15:51 < Messedrocker> Bungle!
2008-01-02 15:52 < Bungle> LDS! :p
2008-01-02 15:52 < Mike_H> Tonight: Windy with clear skies. Hard freeze expected. Low 20F. Winds N at 20 to 30 mph.
2008-01-02 15:52 < Messedrocker> Yes, Bungle. LDS.
2008-01-02 15:52 < Mike_H> That's not Florida weather! >:(
2008-01-02 15:52 < Bungle> oh the memories :)
2008-01-02 15:52 < Messedrocker> You're the only person from when I was 9 I still have some semblance of contact with.
2008-01-02 15:52 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: Latter Day Saints?
2008-01-02 15:52 < Messedrocker> Mike_H: Love Da Sims
2008-01-02 15:52 < Mike_H> oh.
2008-01-02 15:52 < LawrenceWCohen> this is nice... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morelia_%28genus%29 I just stared at this snake image, and tried to figure out what was off about it. the damn thing is KILLING a rabbit in this photo.
2008-01-02 15:52 < Bungle> Messedrocker: we have known eachother too long
2008-01-02 15:52 < Bungle> =(
2008-01-02 15:52 < Messedrocker> (Don't ask, I was a half-retarded nine year old with a vested interest in The Sims BEFORE IT WAS A CLUSTERFUCKED 3D GAME)
2008-01-02 15:53 < Bungle> what he said ^
2008-01-02 15:53 < Mike_H> l-u-l-z
2008-01-02 15:53 < Messedrocker> seriously Bungle, how many times was I banned from whatever IRC channel you were in charge of
2008-01-02 15:54 < Bungle> my recollection of 6yrs ago is vague
2008-01-02 15:54 < Bungle> MGON related?
2008-01-02 15:54 < Bungle> #R&R? :P
2008-01-02 15:54 < Messedrocker> #R&R !!!!!
2008-01-02 15:54 < Messedrocker> i loved #R&R
2008-01-02 15:54 < Cyrius> LawrenceWCohen: you say that like it's somehow unusual
2008-01-02 15:54 < Messedrocker> MGON is a sellout
2008-01-02 15:54 < Messedrocker> a god damn sellout
2008-01-02 15:55 < Messedrocker> I would've done the same thing had I come across a hosting bill larger than three digits, though.
2008-01-02 15:55 < Bungle> well you gotta admit.. you used to show your age then
2008-01-02 15:56 < Bungle> just unfortunate you were younger than everyone :p
2008-01-02 15:56 < Messedrocker> i was once told i behaved like i was 13 when i was 9
2008-01-02 15:56 < Mike_H> Bungle: How old are you?
2008-01-02 15:56 < Mike_H> If we're talking about showing ages.
2008-01-02 15:56 < Messedrocker> (nowadays, saying I act like a 13-year-old would be an insult since I'm nearing 16)
2008-01-02 15:57 < Bungle> Mike_H: we're not talking about the present tense though
2008-01-02 15:57 < quanticle> MessedRocker: do you mean Sim-City? Or the Sims?
2008-01-02 15:57 < Mike_H> Bungle: I am
2008-01-02 15:57 < Mike_H> age.
2008-01-02 15:57 < Bungle> MR: you serious?
2008-01-02 15:57 < Messedrocker> quanticle, The Sims
2008-01-02 15:57 < Bungle> well I have wasted more years than I planned to on irc over the years =(
2008-01-02 15:57 < Messedrocker> Bungle: yes I am nearly 16
2008-01-02 15:58 < Messedrocker> You're probably nearly 40 now
2008-01-02 15:58 < Bungle> no MR.. I meant the 9>13 behaviour compliment :p
2008-01-02 15:58 < Mike_H> Nearly 40?
2008-01-02 15:58 < Mike_H> That's as old as my sister. And that's old.
2008-01-02 15:58 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Since when was The Sims a 2-d game? IIRC it was always planned to be 3-d...
2008-01-02 15:58 < Messedrocker> i have no idea bungle's age
2008-01-02 15:58 < Messedrocker> quanticle, with 2D graphics
2008-01-02 15:58 < Messedrocker> i liked it when it was simpler
2008-01-02 15:59 < Messedrocker> before the 3D-ness was really decked out, a la The Sims 2
2008-01-02 15:59 < quanticle> Messedrocker: You mean the isometric view, a la Sim City?
2008-01-02 15:59 < Messedrocker> riiight
2008-01-02 15:59 < Messedrocker> Bungle, apparently I was once told that
2008-01-02 15:59 < quanticle> Messedrocker: There's another Sims game past 2?
2008-01-02 15:59 < Messedrocker> well there are The Sims 2 expansion packs
2008-01-02 15:59 < kim_bruning> http://www.eenvandaag.nl/stemwijzerusa/en/
2008-01-02 15:59 < kim_bruning> ok, now this is fun
2008-01-02 15:59 * Messedrocker also liked Roller Coaster Tycoon before RCT2
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> I liked doing the cheat code for the Sims
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> and building elaborate houses
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> with long hallways
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> and the Sims would be like
2008-01-02 16:00 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Did you ever play SimCoaster?
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> "I have to pee!"
2008-01-02 16:00 < Messedrocker> Mike H, I remember when I discovered that
2008-01-02 16:00 < Messedrocker> I absolutely loved it
2008-01-02 16:00 < Messedrocker> quanticle, no
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> and they wouldn't be able to make it to the end of the hallway
2008-01-02 16:00 < Messedrocker> and they'd wet themselves
2008-01-02 16:00 < Messedrocker> with their eerie blue urine
2008-01-02 16:00 < White_Cat> Martinp23?
2008-01-02 16:00 < Mike_H> yeah, and they'd throw a tantrum
2008-01-02 16:00 < White_Cat> pm :P
2008-01-02 16:00 < Bungle> actually Rocker.. I think we have all been somewhat over silly in our youth
2008-01-02 16:01 < Bungle> and I can't exclude myself
2008-01-02 16:01 < quanticle> Messedrocker, Mike_H That's slightly disturbing if you think about it...
2008-01-02 16:01 < Cyrius> "I was young and foolish then. I'm old and foolish now."
2008-01-02 16:01 < Messedrocker> Bungle, indeed. Then I magically grew up somehow.
2008-01-02 16:01 < Messedrocker> I have no idea, either.
2008-01-02 16:02 < bumm13> y76uuufcl,;]
2008-01-02 16:02 < Bungle> you were difficult to forget, to say the least :p
2008-01-02 16:02 < quanticle> Messedrocker: If you're 16, you're still in your youth. You can still act silly
2008-01-02 16:02 < Messedrocker> you mean i had a lasting legacy?