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2008-01-02 03:50 < bumm13> and only two of those states have no college football program at the I-A or I-AA level
2008-01-02 03:50 < bumm13> (Alaska and Vermont)
2008-01-02 03:50 < Suva> Journey: Artificial?
2008-01-02 03:50 < bumm13> Alaska has none ;)
2008-01-02 03:50 < Journey> it doesn't use water nor light to survive
2008-01-02 03:50 < bumm13> I don't think Vermont has any sort of college football, either
2008-01-02 03:50 < Journey> but it is alive
2008-01-02 03:51 < Journey> it transforms silicon into opal
2008-01-02 03:51 < Suva> Seems like some crackpot theory
2008-01-02 03:51 < Journey> probably the greatest discovery in biology of the entire 20th century next to DNA
2008-01-02 03:51 * bumm13 has never heard of this
2008-01-02 03:51 < Journey> it's still under debate
2008-01-02 03:52 < Evil_Monkey> like Extremophile?
2008-01-02 03:52 < Journey> but this is not some get rich quick scam
2008-01-02 03:52 < Journey> BEYOND extremophile
2008-01-02 03:52 < Journey> this is unheard f, needs neither light not WATER
2008-01-02 03:53 < Suva> How come there are no english sources on this
2008-01-02 03:53 < Journey> I know the man who discovered it, and he is a famous explorer, you can check his references
2008-01-02 03:53 < Journey> THAT'S WHY I'M HERE!
2008-01-02 03:53 < Suva> Atleast [[My penis]] has english sources on it :P
2008-01-02 03:54 < Journey> this has beed around for almost a year and I can't believe there is not an english article for it
2008-01-02 03:54 < Evil_Monkey> I'm guessing the English translation may be biospeleothem
2008-01-02 03:54 < Evil_Monkey> which gives a total of three google results
2008-01-02 03:54 < Journey> ahh
2008-01-02 03:54 < Journey> let me see
2008-01-02 03:56 < Suva> Journey: Even if it is not some crackpot theory, I don't believe you can decently source it
2008-01-02 03:58 * Evil_Monkey np Any Way You Want It - Journey
2008-01-02 03:58 < Suva> Journey: If the thing turns silicon into Opal, it surely needs water
2008-01-02 03:58 * bumm13 NP: (The) Clash - Straight to Hell (1982)
2008-01-02 04:01 < Suva> You know... Because opal consists of Silicone + Water :P
2008-01-02 04:01 < Guest48018> ok
2008-01-02 04:02 < NickFoo> ok
2008-01-02 04:02 < bumm13> hi Journey
2008-01-02 04:02 < NickFoo> well, my computer froze
2008-01-02 04:02 < NickFoo> yeah and someone took my nickname
2008-01-02 04:02 < Suva> Silicon*
2008-01-02 04:03 < superluser> Got a quick question about commons
2008-01-02 04:03 < NickFoo> ok I'm going to try and translate the article
2008-01-02 04:03 < NickFoo> probably going to spark a lot of debate but that's a good sign
2008-01-02 04:03 < bumm13> superluser: #wikimedia-commons if nobody here can help you
2008-01-02 04:04 < superluser> bumm13: Is it well-trafficked?
2008-01-02 04:04 < bumm13> I couldn't say
2008-01-02 04:04 < bumm13> probably decently-trafficked
2008-01-02 04:04 < superluser> Better there or here?
2008-01-02 04:04 < superluser> Better to ask, that is?
2008-01-02 04:04 < bumm13> well, try there first
2008-01-02 04:05 < bumm13> as it's their topic :)
2008-01-02 04:08 < Forrester> Anyone here who could help me about javascipt?
2008-01-02 04:09 < superluser> Right. #wikimedia-commons is pretty much dead, so I'm asking here.
2008-01-02 04:09 < superluser> I've taken two GFDL images and merged them, and I'm trying to figure out if I should upload them under "my own work" or somehting else
2008-01-02 04:09 < bumm13> Forrester: if not, see also ##javascript
2008-01-02 04:09 < bumm13> superluser: ask away :)
2008-01-02 04:09 < superluser> I just asked.
2008-01-02 04:10 < bumm13> oh, sorry :x
2008-01-02 04:10 < bumm13> what is the name/link of the new image?
2008-01-02 04:11 < Evil_Monkey> I think you have to include the history of the images yours is a derivative of
2008-01-02 04:11 < superluser> Here: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/superluser/teaandbiscuit.png
2008-01-02 04:11 < superluser> I will most definitely include the history.
2008-01-02 04:11 < superluser> ...anyways, #wikimedia-commons was slow, but they responded.
2008-01-02 04:12 < bumm13> oh, cool :-)
2008-01-02 04:21 < Alkivar> lol at 23,000 signatures to a petition to have the pictures of muhammed removed from the article on him
2008-01-02 04:21 < Alkivar> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/removal-of-the-pics-of-muhammad-from-wikipedia
2008-01-02 04:21 < Alkivar> what part of encyclopedia do these tards not get?
2008-01-02 04:22 < superluser> Alkivar: WP:CIVIL. (What I censor myself from saying notwithstanding)
2008-01-02 04:23 < Lycurgus> 'cyclo' which gets confused with Xenu or sumthin
2008-01-02 04:23 < Mike_H> superluser: The chat room, by and large, is free from Wikipedia guidelines like that. Not to mean we can say any old thing about anyone, but we usually don't bat our eyelashes at comments like Alkivar's
2008-01-02 04:23 < superluser> Mike_H: I know. I'm just sayin'.
2008-01-02 04:24 < OverlordQ> Alkivar: that's just flippin hilarious :)
2008-01-02 04:24 < superluser> It's faster than saying, ``I wouldn't go that far myself.''
2008-01-02 04:24 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WpDfxckXmBo
2008-01-02 04:24 < Mike_H> bleh
2008-01-02 04:24 < Mike_H> Coryn looks like a man
2008-01-02 04:24 < Alkivar> technically that whole petition is in violation of WP:POINT
2008-01-02 04:25 < Mike_H> A lot of these girls were either bland-looking or just plain fugly
2008-01-02 04:25 < Mike_H> like Sarah's lips are something from outer space
2008-01-02 04:25 < Mike_H> and Lisa looked 60.
2008-01-02 04:25 < OverlordQ> go kim lol :D
2008-01-02 04:25 < Mike_H> <3 Kim
2008-01-02 04:25 < bumm13> Mike_H: did you see the rest of my PM?
2008-01-02 04:25 < Mike_H> Yeah
2008-01-02 04:26 < bumm13> :)
2008-01-02 04:26 < bumm13> ok
2008-01-02 04:26 < Alkivar> Mike: cassandra and ashley are the only two i even consider remotely "hot"
2008-01-02 04:26 < Mike_H> Alkivar: I thought Kyle was the hottest
2008-01-02 04:26 < Mike_H> Kyle and Nik
2008-01-02 04:27 * The359 hopes he isn't outbid on this eBay auction overnight
2008-01-02 04:27 < Rinn> The only solution is to stay up all night.
2008-01-02 04:27 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_6rT0vxUA
2008-01-02 04:27 < Mike_H> and in this one I think the only pretty one was Joanie
2008-01-02 04:27 < simplechat> lol
2008-01-02 04:27 < Mike_H> but that was after she got her teeth fixed
2008-01-02 04:28 < The359> well I'm not going to bid higher, I'm at the max I want to spend
2008-01-02 04:28 < The359> but I plan to get up early just to check on it and make sure I won
2008-01-02 04:28 < The359> so waking up and finding I wasted my time will be a bummer
2008-01-02 04:28 < Mike_H> No, Kari was also pretty
2008-01-02 04:28 < Mike_H> in that Topanga from Boy Meets World way
2008-01-02 04:31 < Lycurgus> there must be a second life channel somewhere
2008-01-02 04:31 < simplechat> #secondlife?
2008-01-02 04:32 < Lycurgus> not here anyway
2008-01-02 04:32 < SNORLAX> #yiff
2008-01-02 04:33 < The359> no yiffing!
2008-01-02 04:33 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Horsesemen.jpg
2008-01-02 04:33 * Lycurgus does not grok "yiff".
2008-01-02 04:34 < superluser> Alkivar: why?
2008-01-02 04:34 < Alkivar> superluser: i was asking myself that very same question when linked to it
2008-01-02 04:34 < superluser> In a kind and just world, why does Wikipedia have that?
2008-01-02 04:34 < Alkivar> because some people have more time than sense
2008-01-02 04:34 < Mike_H> oh, wow, I found a person on YouTube who edited the ANTM opening titles to put the girls in order of elimination
2008-01-02 04:34 < Mike_H> someone who has more time on their hands than me
2008-01-02 04:34 < Mike_H> cool
2008-01-02 04:35 < Mike_H> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YwtP0gNdOy4
2008-01-02 04:35 < OverlordQ> Oh jeebus, first baby of 2k8 born to a pair of starwars nerds, who have kids lucas and anakin, and gave their daughter the middle name of leia :-/
2008-01-02 04:36 < Mike_H> OverlordQ: I went to school with a girl named Leia
2008-01-02 04:36 < Mike_H> but it was pronounced like "Leah"
2008-01-02 04:36 < superluser> For all the help that you guys and gals have given me, you deserve some tea and a biscuit: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Tea_and_Biscuit.png
2008-01-02 04:36 < superluser> Thanks!
2008-01-02 04:36 < Alkivar> superluser: we also have horrible images like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Human_Feces.jpg
2008-01-02 04:36 < OverlordQ> heh, wouldn't be that hard with any decent video editing package
2008-01-02 04:37 < superluser> Heh. Alkivar, I've been in an edit war over at oral-anal sex
2008-01-02 04:38 < superluser> It was over an image (now two images) of people doing it
2008-01-02 04:38 < simplechat> superluser, ok, i think icame into this odd
2008-01-02 04:38 < simplechat> *this at an odd time
2008-01-02 04:38 < superluser> BWAHAHAHAH
2008-01-02 04:38 < simplechat> yeah
2008-01-02 04:38 < simplechat> ......
2008-01-02 04:38 * simplechat backs off very slowly from superluser
2008-01-02 04:39 < superluser> See the talk page. It's totally innocuous
2008-01-02 04:39 < superluser> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anal-oral_sex
2008-01-02 04:41 < The359> I am disappointed at the lack of mention of Clerks 2 in that article
2008-01-02 04:41 < The359> or do we have a seperate article on Ass to Mouth?
2008-01-02 04:42 < The359> oh, we do
2008-01-02 04:42 < The359> nevermind
2008-01-02 04:42 < OverlordQ> how about ass to ass ala requiem for a dream
2008-01-02 04:43 < OverlordQ> What does that guy put on his resume for movie credits?
2008-01-02 04:43 < The359> that's not really ass to ass, just a double-ended dildo
2008-01-02 04:43 < simplechat> what the.....?
2008-01-02 04:43 < The359> ass to ass would be like....scissoring
2008-01-02 04:44 < The359> you know, scissor me timbers and such
2008-01-02 04:48 < Lubaf> Well, it looks like Obama's gonna win Iowa.
2008-01-02 04:49 < Lubaf> Don't ask me what New Hampshire looks like, though.
2008-01-02 04:49 < The359> a state
2008-01-02 04:54 < Lubaf> The359: If you're going to go that direction, I would've said, "Snowy, this time of year".
2008-01-02 04:55 < Mike_H> Lubaf: The caucus is tomorrow.
2008-01-02 04:55 < Mike_H> Nobody knows who's going to win yet.
2008-01-02 04:55 < Mike_H> Just yesterday they said it was still up in the air.
2008-01-02 04:55 < Lubaf> Mike_H: I said "It looks like..."
2008-01-02 04:55 < Mike_H> and I said
2008-01-02 04:55 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> Just yesterday they said it was still up in the air.
2008-01-02 04:56 < Mike_H> What changed in a day?
2008-01-02 04:56 < superluser> Voting by airship?
2008-01-02 04:56 < Lubaf> Mike_H: The Des Moines Register released its poll.
2008-01-02 04:57 < Mike_H> Oh, those polls mean nothing
2008-01-02 04:57 < Mike_H> especially this early on
2008-01-02 05:00 < Lubaf> "This early on"?!?
2008-01-02 05:01 < Mike_H> as in this early on in the campaign
2008-01-02 05:01 < Mike_H> even if the person won the caucus
2008-01-02 05:01 < Mike_H> that does not guarantee them the nomination
2008-01-02 05:01 < Mike_H> and in a lot of cases
2008-01-02 05:01 < Mike_H> the winners of the caucus do not go on to get the nomination.
2008-01-02 05:02 < Lubaf> Mike_H: True, but these days, we seem to be in a momentum battle, rather than anything actually, you know, democratic.
2008-01-02 05:35 < TheWeasel> o.o , the Huckabass
2008-01-02 05:36 < Luna-San> Huckabassy Finn, the lesser-known Twain novel?
2008-01-02 05:36 < The359> needs moar ass
2008-01-02 05:37 < TheWeasel> I just saw a pic of Mickey Huckabee with Chuck Norris next to him, playing bass
2008-01-02 05:38 < ancjr> ...
2008-01-02 05:38 < Scott5114> I remember a few weeks ago he was the underdog candidate
2008-01-02 05:38 < TheWeasel> So I called the Telecaster-type thing the Huckabass
2008-01-02 05:39 < Lycurgus> did Huckabee become an instant train wreck or something?
2008-01-02 05:41 < Lycurgus> just a week ago the Times or New Yorker, I forget which had an article "Huckabee? Really?"
2008-01-02 05:42 < TheWeasel> A Berlin newspaper had a guest column titled "Huckabee! Who? Huckabee!"
2008-01-02 05:43 < Lycurgus> I think I know what happened with his comments on pakistan though. I have a relative ...
2008-01-02 05:44 < Lycurgus> who sometines tells stories and gets so caught up that they start to ad lib
2008-01-02 05:44 < Lycurgus> the facts in wild ways.
2008-01-02 05:44 < Scott5114> I like how he pulled an ad for being too negative and proceeded to show it to the press
2008-01-02 05:56 < TheWeasel> Lycurgus: Like people whose only purpose in arguments is to win them
2008-01-02 05:56 < TheWeasel> they make up stuff on the go because nobody is going to look them up in high-paced arguments
2008-01-02 05:57 < TheWeasel> even on the net
2008-01-02 05:59 < TheWeasel> "The Des Moines Register poll carries unusual significance because it is considered not only an authoritative survey but also one likely to influence the vote."
2008-01-02 05:59 < TheWeasel> I.e. a self-fulfilling emperor without clothes
2008-01-02 06:12 < Lycurgus> no not at all, it's just that the these are very predictable populations that are working within a system which is very carefully controlled to limit alternatives
2008-01-02 06:13 < Lycurgus> s/the//
2008-01-02 06:14 < Lycurgus> http://wsws.org/articles/2008/jan2008/elec-j02.shtml has a great explanation
2008-01-02 06:15 < NickFoo> how do I turn a Sandbox article to a final article?
2008-01-02 06:15 < Aqwis2> define "sandbox article"
2008-01-02 06:15 < pengo> NickFoo: copy and paste?
2008-01-02 06:15 < NickFoo> I'm using the Sandbox function
2008-01-02 06:15 < Aqwis2> if you mean an article in a usersubpage, move it
2008-01-02 06:16 < Aqwis2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SANDBOX ?
2008-01-02 06:16 < Shiroi_Neko> Funeral for Iraq bomb victim bombed, killing 36
2008-01-02 06:16 < Shiroi_Neko> is that irony?
2008-01-02 06:16 < NickFoo> Aqwis2
2008-01-02 06:16 < pengo> not really
2008-01-02 06:16 < NickFoo> yes
2008-01-02 06:17 < Lycurgus> if a literal quote, no, just poor English
2008-01-02 06:17 < Aqwis2> wow, you shouldn't write articles in WP:SANDBOX
2008-01-02 06:17 < NickFoo> how do I change the title
2008-01-02 06:17 < NickFoo> how do i make it visible to the public
2008-01-02 06:17 < Aqwis2> link me to it
2008-01-02 06:17 < NickFoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox#Notes
2008-01-02 06:17 < Aqwis2> you are "Luisjoseromeroesclusa"?
2008-01-02 06:17 < NickFoo> yes
2008-01-02 06:18 < Aqwis2> NickFoo, the Sandbox has been emptied
2008-01-02 06:18 < Aqwis2> your article is still in the page history, though
2008-01-02 06:18 < Shiroi_Neko> Alkivar playing in the sandbox again?
2008-01-02 06:18 < Aqwis2> go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biospeleothem&action=edit
2008-01-02 06:18 < NickFoo> I don't understant, is the sandbox shared?
2008-01-02 06:18 < Aqwis2> yes
2008-01-02 06:18 < Shiroi_Neko> naughty little kiddy you :P
2008-01-02 06:18 < Aqwis2> it's shared
2008-01-02 06:18 < Shiroi_Neko> sandbox is test space
2008-01-02 06:19 < Shiroi_Neko> you can have a private sandbox too
2008-01-02 06:19 < Aqwis2> indeed, it's test space and should not be used for creating articles
2008-01-02 06:19 < Shiroi_Neko> [[user:Luisjoseromeroesclusa/Sandbox]]
2008-01-02 06:19 < NickFoo> ok how do I put it in it's own page?
2008-01-02 06:19 < Shiroi_Neko> for example
2008-01-02 06:19 < Aqwis2> paste the source code of your article to the page i linked
2008-01-02 06:19 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo your best bet is copy pasting it from history
2008-01-02 06:19 < Aqwis2> you will find the source code here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&oldid=181581958
2008-01-02 06:19 < Shiroi_Neko> Martinp23 up?
2008-01-02 06:20 < NickFoo> Aqwis2: ok but hwo do I access it as "Biospeleothem"
2008-01-02 06:20 < NickFoo> ?
2008-01-02 06:21 < Aqwis2> paste your article to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biospeleothem&action=edit and save it
2008-01-02 06:21 < NickFoo> oh
2008-01-02 06:21 < Aqwis2> then the article will be at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biospeleothem
2008-01-02 06:22 < Shiroi_Neko> I am compiling a survey on wikipedia, what kind of questions would you guys reccomend I ask?
2008-01-02 06:22 < SNORLAX> questions about people's real names
2008-01-02 06:22 < Aqwis2> sexual orientation of course ;)
2008-01-02 06:22 < NickFoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biospeleothem
2008-01-02 06:22 < Aqwis2> nice :)
2008-01-02 06:23 < NickFoo> can someone please read and tell me their thoughts?
2008-01-02 06:26 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis people dont have sexual orientation here
2008-01-02 06:26 < Aqwis2> hehe
2008-01-02 06:26 < Shiroi_Neko> thats merely the excuse :)
2008-01-02 06:26 * Shiroi_Neko licks Pill
2008-01-02 06:27 < Kieff> NickFoo: what the hell
2008-01-02 06:27 < Myxomatosian> does anyone here speak volapük?
2008-01-02 06:27 * Shiroi_Neko is on the Pillz
2008-01-02 06:27 < Kieff> NickFoo: that looks like bullshit
2008-01-02 06:28 < Mike_H> Today: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to mostly sunny skies this afternoon. Colder. High 49F. Winds NNW at 20 to 30 mph.
2008-01-02 06:28 < Mike_H> and this is Tampa, Florida!
2008-01-02 06:28 < Mike_H> Our average high for this time of year is 70!
2008-01-02 06:28 * JohnReaves2 #
2008-01-02 06:28 < Kieff> "Finally, NASA became involved "
2008-01-02 06:28 < Kieff> yeah
2008-01-02 06:28 < Shiroi_Neko> Mike_H you in tampa?
2008-01-02 06:28 < Kieff> wtf is nasa doing inside a cave?
2008-01-02 06:28 < Mike_H> Yeah
2008-01-02 06:28 < Aqwis2> try asking in #wikipedia-en, NickFoo
2008-01-02 06:28 < Shiroi_Neko> Kieff looking for clues on extra teresial life
2008-01-02 06:29 < Shiroi_Neko> NASA is like that
2008-01-02 06:29 < Aqwis2> as usual, this channel is very off-topic atm
2008-01-02 06:29 < Kieff> Shiroi_Neko: they're rocket scientists. Biologists would be more appropriate
2008-01-02 06:29 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo indeed #wikipedia-en is more friendly than here
2008-01-02 06:29 < bumm13> Aqwis2: talking about a nonsense WP article is hardly off-topic :P
2008-01-02 06:29 < Shiroi_Neko> Kieff no not at all
2008-01-02 06:29 < Shiroi_Neko> NASA has plenty of biologists
2008-01-02 06:29 < Aqwis2> well, how am i supposed to know if it's nonsense ;|
2008-01-02 06:30 < bumm13> by definition, minerals are non-living
2008-01-02 06:30 < bumm13> (just a thought)
2008-01-02 06:30 < Shiroi_Neko> by researching extreme life on earth they get a better understanding of life in extreme conditions
2008-01-02 06:30 < Shiroi_Neko> Kieff no opinion on this spesific case
2008-01-02 06:30 * Aqwis2 has no clue about that stuff
2008-01-02 06:30 < Shiroi_Neko> but NASA has biologist teams
2008-01-02 06:30 < Shiroi_Neko> they even go underwater
2008-01-02 06:30 < Kieff> Shiroi_Neko: yeah, they probably do
2008-01-02 06:31 < NickFoo> The NASA bit is to be debated
2008-01-02 06:31 < Kieff> but I doubt NASA would go there before local biologists
2008-01-02 06:31 < Shiroi_Neko> Kieff a spaceraft looking for life remains on mars needs to be calibrated for stuff like this
2008-01-02 06:31 < Mike_H> bumm13: msg
2008-01-02 06:31 < Shiroi_Neko> Kieff nothing about NASA can suprise me
2008-01-02 06:31 < bumm13> "a form of life composed entirely of minerals" lol
2008-01-02 06:31 < Shiroi_Neko> Kieff where do you think that funding goes?
2008-01-02 06:31 < Shiroi_Neko> bumm13 it was featured in Star Trek
2008-01-02 06:32 * Shiroi_Neko slaps bumm13 with a silicon based lifeform
2008-01-02 06:32 < Shiroi_Neko> which would be Mike_H
2008-01-02 06:34 < Myxomatosian> Why are there like no results for biospeleothems on google? :o
2008-01-02 06:35 < simplechat> :)
2008-01-02 06:35 < simplechat> it isn't a real word?
2008-01-02 06:35 < bumm13> Myxomatosian: because it's fictional
2008-01-02 06:35 < Myxomatosian> oh
2008-01-02 06:35 < Kieff> Shiroi_Neko: are you a hoax believer?
2008-01-02 06:35 < NotACow> moo!
2008-01-02 06:36 < Shiroi_Neko> no
2008-01-02 06:36 < Shiroi_Neko> I just am saying NASA has plenty of biologists
2008-01-02 06:36 < Myxomatosian> why would one write fiction on wikipedia? :O
2008-01-02 06:36 < Shiroi_Neko> Myxomatosian because real life is a fictional concept
2008-01-02 06:36 < Shiroi_Neko> people are living in a dream
2008-01-02 06:36 < simplechat> Myxomatosian, your the american government?
2008-01-02 06:37 < Shiroi_Neko> this is all figments of jimbos imagination
2008-01-02 06:37 < NickFoo> This is no scam people, this is a real discovery
2008-01-02 06:37 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo okay
2008-01-02 06:37 < simplechat> what is?
2008-01-02 06:37 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo science progresses in stagering speeds
2008-01-02 06:37 < NickFoo> I know the man responsible, he's a friend of my father. However that does not make me more or less biased
2008-01-02 06:37 < Shiroi_Neko> as wikipedia we request people to first publish this new discovery on a scientific journal
2008-01-02 06:38 < Shiroi_Neko> we then use the journal as source
2008-01-02 06:38 < NickFoo> well I have the blog
2008-01-02 06:38 < Shiroi_Neko> bias has little to do with it
2008-01-02 06:38 < Shiroi_Neko> well
2008-01-02 06:38 < NickFoo> I put ithe link there
2008-01-02 06:38 < Shiroi_Neko> blogs arent a very reliable source
2008-01-02 06:38 < NickFoo> hmm, you're right
2008-01-02 06:38 < bumm13> if it isn't published, it's original research
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> for exampe I could write a blog and invent things. I am not saying thats what you are doing
2008-01-02 06:39 < NickFoo> is it okay if the article is put under observation?
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> but you do see my point
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo we dont observe articles
2008-01-02 06:39 < NickFoo> I can contact the man and ask him for proof
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo how about this
2008-01-02 06:39 < NickFoo> what can I do
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> move the article to your userspace
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> work on it
2008-01-02 06:39 < Shiroi_Neko> and once you are done with proper sourcing move it back
2008-01-02 06:40 < Shiroi_Neko> books can be reliable sources
2008-01-02 06:40 < bumm13> "Wikipedia requires material to be verified to a reliable published source. The burden is on the article author to prove the claims in the article. Thus it is futile to try to continue a hoax once it is under scrutiny of Wikipedia editors if it is not already believed by the general population external to Wikipedia. (And if a hoaxer has already successfully tricked the general public, then he/she need not create an article himself; someone
2008-01-02 06:40 < NickFoo> hmm, how do i move it to my userspace?
2008-01-02 06:42 < Eirikb> Hi, everybody, does anybody know how I can translate the subtitles for the Jimbo Wales Donation Video?
2008-01-02 06:42 < Eirikb> I.e. where can I find the English subtitles file?
2008-01-02 06:43 < bjweeks> bumm13: you're an admin, right? could you get the sources for a few deleted pages for me?
2008-01-02 06:43 < TheWeasel> "belong to" and "be among" is not the same!
2008-01-02 06:43 < Shiroi_Neko> NickFoo I can do thos for you
2008-01-02 06:43 < TheWeasel> grr
2008-01-02 06:43 < Myxomatosian> i edited it for spelling and grammar
2008-01-02 06:44 < Mike_H> Eirikb: I don't
2008-01-02 06:44 < Mike_H> does anyone else?
2008-01-02 06:45 < NotACow> bumm13: haha, that's funny
2008-01-02 06:47 < TheWeasel> "The Lewis chessmen (named after their find-site) belong to some of the few complete medieval chess sets that have survived until today."
2008-01-02 06:47 < Eirikb> If anynoe does know, please contact me here: http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brukardiskusjon:Eirik
2008-01-02 06:48 < TheWeasel> they don't *belong* to a chess set, they *are* a chess set
2008-01-02 06:48 < SNORLAX> that's the non-notable wikipedia
2008-01-02 06:50 * Warpath waves to SlimVirgin :)
2008-01-02 06:50 < Paper> hmm...so many users in here...
2008-01-02 06:50 * Warpath moos NotACow :DDD
2008-01-02 06:51 < NotACow> Warpath: are those chins?
2008-01-02 06:51 * Warpath shredds paper :DD
2008-01-02 06:51 < Warpath> NotACow, yup all 3 of them :P
2008-01-02 06:51 < Paper> >-(
2008-01-02 06:51 < Paper> >:-(
2008-01-02 06:51 < NotACow> Paper: did your eyes disappear below your eyebrows for a moment there?
2008-01-02 06:51 < Paper> heh, yeah
2008-01-02 06:52 * NotACow tries to think of something evil to scheme up
2008-01-02 06:52 < NotACow> hm. my browser just went woopy.
2008-01-02 06:52 < Warpath> yipeee ^_^
2008-01-02 06:52 < Paper> something to do with RFA maybe...
2008-01-02 06:53 < NotACow> meh, who the fuck cares about rfa?
2008-01-02 06:53 < Warpath> ooh O_O
2008-01-02 06:53 * Paper does
2008-01-02 06:53 * brown_cat snuggles with Warpath
2008-01-02 06:54 * Warpath kicks brown_cat >:(
2008-01-02 06:54 * brown_cat cuddles Warpath more
2008-01-02 06:54 < brown_cat> you will bow down to my cuteness
2008-01-02 06:54 < Warpath> eww... Garfield :S
2008-01-02 06:55 < brown_cat> :?
2008-01-02 06:55 < brown_cat> that is from garfield?
2008-01-02 06:55 < Phoenix-wiki> Opinion matters more then fact, eh?
2008-01-02 06:55 < brown_cat> yes
2008-01-02 06:55 < Phoenix-wiki> yes, that's from Garfield
2008-01-02 06:55 < brown_cat> mr whois
2008-01-02 06:55 < brown_cat> what, opinion more then fact or bow down to cuteness?
2008-01-02 06:55 < Phoenix-wiki> wha?!?!
2008-01-02 06:56 * brown_cat attacks Phoenix-wiki >:D
2008-01-02 06:56 * Phoenix-wiki ...er...impales him with a spear
2008-01-02 06:56 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-02 06:57 < Myxomatosian> :o
2008-01-02 06:58 * brown_cat mind rapes Myxomatosian
2008-01-02 06:58 < Myxomatosian> don't!
2008-01-02 06:58 < Myxomatosian> I will have a word with your manager
2008-01-02 06:59 < brown_cat> omg
2008-01-02 06:59 < brown_cat> sounds like douchebags on the phone (you all do it with the people on the other end) "can you put me through to your manager"
2008-01-02 06:59 < brown_cat> pffft
2008-01-02 07:00 < Myxomatosian> oh
2008-01-02 07:00 < Myxomatosian> that never happens to me because I give excellent customer service ^_^
2008-01-02 07:00 < LEN[i]X> what's up guys, i have a question, i posted an article on the arabic wikipedia, submitted it and everything, but now I can't find it, does it need time or what?
2008-01-02 07:00 < brown_cat> Myxomatosian: where do you work?
2008-01-02 07:00 < brown_cat> please do not say a gay chat line
2008-01-02 07:00 < Myxomatosian> a large health food store
2008-01-02 07:01 < brown_cat> ah :)
2008-01-02 07:02 < Luna-San> LEN[i]X: Usually shouldn't. Can't say much about Arabic titles, but English titles are caps-sensitive, if that matters. It might have been deleted, if there's any chance of that.
2008-01-02 07:02 < Luna-San> LEN[i]X: Other options, make sure you have the right page title, or try and refresh your browser cache.
2008-01-02 07:02 < Myxomatosian> there's no capital letters in arabic
2008-01-02 07:02 < brown_kitten> O_o
2008-01-02 07:02 < Luna-San> Good to know. >.>
2008-01-02 07:02 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-02 07:03 < LEN[i]X> isn't there an option to see pages i posted?
2008-01-02 07:03 < LEN[i]X> like an archive or something
2008-01-02 07:03 < LEN[i]X> without having to search for it
2008-01-02 07:03 < Luna-San> LEN[i]X: alt+shift+y should be "my contribs," if you're logged in
2008-01-02 07:04 < LEN[i]X> ok cool, i found the page i wrote there, but I still can't find it in search
2008-01-02 07:04 < Luna-San> Huh, tricky
2008-01-02 07:04 < Luna-San> I think I've heard a bit about Search needing time to update; not sure how long.
2008-01-02 07:05 < Lycurgus> the are also no capitals in chinese
2008-01-02 07:05 < NotACow> search takes a while
2008-01-02 07:05 < Myxomatosian> there's no letters in Chinese, so that's not too shocking
2008-01-02 07:06 < LEN[i]X> alright then, I'll give it sometime..
2008-01-02 07:06 < LEN[i]X> Thanks for your help Luna =-)
2008-01-02 07:06 < Lycurgus> there are, a great many which is why the chinese can blow off 26 more with relative ease
2008-01-02 07:06 < NotACow> boom
2008-01-02 07:07 * NotACow sets the diffs on fire.
2008-01-02 07:09 < Lycurgus> further, normally a letter has a meaning (though a few only have sounds) so 26 meaningles sound glyphs is pretty easy for them
2008-01-02 07:09 < Lycurgus> s
2008-01-02 07:10 < NotACow> cheep cheep
2008-01-02 07:10 < NotACow> i like meaningless sounds
2008-01-02 07:10 < NotACow> poit
2008-01-02 07:10 < NotACow> snarp
2008-01-02 07:11 < Lycurgus> or actually 52 to pickup
2008-01-02 07:12 < Myxomatosian> if the letter has meaning aside from representing a sound, then it is not a letter. or am i mistaken?
2008-01-02 07:13 < Lycurgus> yes and no. It's an entirely different language system. A letter and a word are not distinct.
2008-01-02 07:13 < Lycurgus> a really long word would have four or five "letters".
2008-01-02 07:13 < Myxomatosian> but you can't tell how a word would be pronounced by looking at it.. you can guess, at best
2008-01-02 07:14 < phed> I wonder
2008-01-02 07:14 < phed> has there ever been any science on who are the biggest morons?
2008-01-02 07:14 < phed> there should be some yes-no question that qualifies a moron
2008-01-02 07:14 < Lycurgus> there's only about 700 syllables, so once you "get" the system, you can in fact guess by looking at it
2008-01-02 07:15 < Lycurgus> but you do need to know the meaning/sound defined for the glyph/letter
2008-01-02 07:16 < Lycurgus> and for minimal literacy you need to know at least 3500
2008-01-02 07:16 < Myxomatosian> well wikipedia says that the chinese script is a logogram, not an alphabet
2008-01-02 07:16 < Myxomatosian> and I trust wikipedia
2008-01-02 07:16 < Myxomatosian> :D
2008-01-02 07:16 * TheWeasel 's blood pressure is oddly through the roof
2008-01-02 07:16 < Lycurgus> well you are fool then
2008-01-02 07:16 < Lycurgus> a
2008-01-02 07:17 < Myxomatosian> i jest
2008-01-02 07:17 < TheWeasel> that sounds like a Hank Williams song
2008-01-02 07:17 * Lycurgus hands TheWeasel a chill pill
2008-01-02 07:17 < Myxomatosian> i'm familiar with it
2008-01-02 07:17 < TheWeasel> I was a foo'/for trusting you
2008-01-02 07:17 < Myxomatosian> but not as much as i'd like to be
2008-01-02 07:19 < Lycurgus> did you mean literal BP which you've just measured?
2008-01-02 07:22 < Lycurgus> phed: if you look at my POV page under the "Form" section you will see something on that.
2008-01-02 07:22 < BROWN-CAT> O_O
2008-01-02 07:22 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-01-02 07:23 * BROWN-CAT wears a wire for Not_the_NSA
2008-01-02 07:23 < Not_the_NSA> O.o
2008-01-02 07:23 * Not_the_NSA thanks BROWN-CAT since he won't be able to monitor the channel in a minute when hee goes
2008-01-02 07:23 < Not_the_NSA> he**
2008-01-02 07:23 < BROWN-CAT> :p
2008-01-02 07:24 * brown_cat hugs Not_the_NSA
2008-01-02 07:24 < Not_the_NSA> bye BROWN-CAT ...school starts early :[
2008-01-02 07:24 < Not_the_NSA> before 8
2008-01-02 07:24 < Not_the_NSA> bye
2008-01-02 07:24 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-02 07:24 < brown_cat> school?
2008-01-02 07:24 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-02 07:24 < brown_cat> I don't have shool for another month
2008-01-02 07:24 < brown_cat> :D
2008-01-02 07:25 * TheWeasel looks for a few articles he doesn't agree with to slap {{fact}} after every single word
2008-01-02 07:25 < phed> Lycurgus, well, I am not sure if IQ is the same as being a "moron" tho .. :P
2008-01-02 07:25 < brown_cat> TheWeasel: I have a few articles!
2008-01-02 07:25 < brown_cat> [[Homosexuality]]
2008-01-02 07:25 < brown_cat> [[Mecca]]
2008-01-02 07:25 < brown_cat> [[Muslims]]
2008-01-02 07:25 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-02 07:26 < TheWeasel> Any nationality wars I could jump into
2008-01-02 07:27 < phed> Lycurgus, you know, at an earlier point in history the term "rationality" implied that one used ones religion as authority.
2008-01-02 07:28 < Lycurgus> be that as it may, only "idiot" really has a history which predates use relative to IQ and originally didn't imply a lack of intelligence
2008-01-02 07:29 < phed> oh, really? what was the original meaning?
2008-01-02 07:29 * TheWeasel doesn't like the words "retard" and "moron"
2008-01-02 07:30 < Lycurgus> the athenians used the term "idiotes" to refer to a person with none but private interests
2008-01-02 07:30 < phed> ah right
2008-01-02 07:30 < phed> interesting objection. I only object to self-important idiotes myself tho :)
2008-01-02 07:32 < Lycurgus> I'm glad to hear the self is not important. Now I can relax for 2008 I guess.
2008-01-02 07:32 < Lycurgus> smoke a joint maybe
2008-01-02 07:32 < phed> yepp, authenticity is the new ideal virtue
2008-01-02 07:34 < phed> interesting article that, G-Factor. Kinda puts all those popular articles on iq in a bad light in comparison
2008-01-02 07:34 < TheWeasel> this elf is not important?
2008-01-02 07:34 < phed> I've grown tired of seeing EQ mentioned as the only alternative to IQ in articles, as if that's where the debate ended.
2008-01-02 07:39 < phed> Lycurgus, btw, I agree with your assessment of socialism vs capitalism.
2008-01-02 07:39 < phed> Lycurgus, personally I think capitalism is just a synonym for opportunism and its effects
2008-01-02 07:41 < bumm13> phed: a bit oversimplistic, perhaps
2008-01-02 07:41 < bumm13> money seems to be a central component in capitalism
2008-01-02 07:42 < phed> bumm13, it is also about building an enterprise and how you go about doing that
2008-01-02 07:42 < phed> the money element can be abstract or about materialistic goods as well
2008-01-02 07:42 < Lycurgus> names mean whatever you(s) want them to
2008-01-02 07:42 < phed> but it is the ways you gain it that always have a opportunistic mechanism behind it
2008-01-02 07:43 < phed> which is how I differ between good and bad socialistic implementations
2008-01-02 07:44 < phed> because, bad socialistic implementations will let opportunists get away with the most materialistic goods (or power if one doesn't think of that as materialism)
2008-01-02 07:44 < Lycurgus> I probably mean something entirely different for example by "capitalism" than you might suppose and in any case I have given a pricising definition in the text you mention.
2008-01-02 07:45 < Lycurgus> *precising
2008-01-02 07:48 < phed> hehe, yeah. capitalism both denotes a mechanism and an ideology
2008-01-02 07:49 < phed> but the free market idea I feel is just a politicization of a completely natural mechanism
2008-01-02 07:50 < phed> so capitalism as an ideology is just praising the status quo as ideal. whilst it is really not much more than a mechanism that was neither created or will be abolished.
2008-01-02 07:53 < phed> but yeah, these terms which have such loaded content are more dependent on context than the true content of the words
2008-01-02 07:55 < Phoenix-wiki> NotACow: Cool wikback picture
2008-01-02 07:55 < Lycurgus> phed: true;morever, "true content of the words" = "sense meant by speaker in context upon which they are dependent" to use your language. bbiab.
2008-01-02 07:56 < phed> :)
2008-01-02 08:20 < yao_ziyuan> how come this channel has exactly 222 people...
2008-01-02 08:22 < GDonato> yao_ziyuan: probably because there have been 222 more joins than leaves since this channel was first thought of :)
2008-01-02 08:22 < GDonato> 223 now
2008-01-02 08:29 < mavhk> it's a conspiracy, someone has 100s of bots ready to join or leave the channel as needed
2008-01-02 08:49 < Nathyn> Should obscure references to small towns be removed from Wikipedia?
2008-01-02 08:49 < Nathyn> I've been looking at random articles and I've seen two articles like that so far.
2008-01-02 08:50 < Cyrius> no, they shouldn't.
2008-01-02 08:50 < Nathyn> Why?
2008-01-02 08:50 < Cyrius> why _should_ they?
2008-01-02 08:50 < Nathyn> Hah.
2008-01-02 08:50 < Nathyn> I think they should because they're unencyclopedic and always going to be stubs.
2008-01-02 08:50 < Cyrius> what's "unencyclopedic" about them?
2008-01-02 08:50 < Aqwis2> and how does that harm wikipedia?
2008-01-02 08:50 < Nathyn> WP:NOT says Wikipedia is not a directory.
2008-01-02 08:51 < Cyrius> and who says always?
2008-01-02 08:51 < Nathyn> Aqwis, "It's not harming anyone" is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions.
2008-01-02 08:51 < Cyrius> you're just annoyed at seeing them in [[special:random]]
2008-01-02 08:51 < Aqwis2> you're wrong
2008-01-02 08:51 < Nathyn> No, that's not it at all.
2008-01-02 08:51 < Aqwis2> not in this case
2008-01-02 08:51 < Nathyn> Lol, calm down you two.
2008-01-02 08:51 < Cyrius> the solution to that is to write more and/or better articles
2008-01-02 08:51 < Nathyn> No, listen.
2008-01-02 08:51 < bjweeks> Aqwis: that applies to everything sans attack pages
2008-01-02 08:51 < Nathyn> There are billions of towns across the world. Few of them are notable for an encyclopedia.
2008-01-02 08:52 < Aqwis2> you still haven't said why, Nathyn
2008-01-02 08:52 < Cyrius> there are not billions of towns.
2008-01-02 08:52 < Nathyn> A lot of people, it seems, create articles for their home towns... And they're stubs that never get anyl arger because they aren't notable.
2008-01-02 08:52 < Nathyn> Well, maybe not billions... I don't know. Millions?
2008-01-02 08:52 < Cyrius> what's "notable"?
2008-01-02 08:52 < Nathyn> Of relevance to the general public.
2008-01-02 08:52 < Aqwis2> sigh
2008-01-02 08:53 < Aqwis2> 99% of the articles on WP are not of relevance to the general public
2008-01-02 08:53 < Cyrius> by that definition, we delete most of the science articles
2008-01-02 08:53 < Aqwis2> obscure science topics, etc
2008-01-02 08:53 < Nathyn> No, because science is relevant to the general public.
2008-01-02 08:53 < Nathyn> Original research isn't.
2008-01-02 08:53 < Cyrius> no, it isn't
2008-01-02 08:53 < Cyrius> the general public doesn't give a shit about valence electrons
2008-01-02 08:54 < Nathyn> Sure it is. Encyclopedias will contain many advanced scientific topics. They won't, however, include things like this:
2008-01-02 08:54 < Nathyn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chadwell
2008-01-02 08:54 < bjweeks> [[WP:V]] is a good starting point
2008-01-02 08:54 < Aqwis2> you haven't explained why not to have those stubs
2008-01-02 08:54 < bumm13> Nathyn: that could easily be expanded
2008-01-02 08:54 < Nathyn> Whether the public cares about valence electronics is beside the point. They're relevant.
2008-01-02 08:54 < Aqwis2> the fact that they're not of interest to the "general public" is not a reason
2008-01-02 08:54 < OverlordQ> I'm sure the average citizen is really interested in [[Riemann surface]]'s Nathyn, so since it's not of relavence to the general public it should go?
2008-01-02 08:54 < Nathyn> How, Bumm? With what?
2008-01-02 08:55 < Cyrius> when you encounter a subpar article, the first thing to try is fixing it
2008-01-02 08:55 < Aqwis2> this is not a paper encylopaedia
2008-01-02 08:55 < Aqwis2> we have space for that stuff
2008-01-02 08:55 < Nathyn> That's a good point, but as an example...
2008-01-02 08:55 < Cyrius> Nathyn: how do you know they're relevant? how do you know Chadwell isn't?
2008-01-02 08:55 < Nathyn> I live in Germantown, Maryland. I could create an article for my town, then have sections on what is here... But that would be kind of silly.
2008-01-02 08:55 < bumm13> being non-British and all
2008-01-02 08:56 < bumm13> it already has an article
2008-01-02 08:56 < Cyrius> Nathyn: you mean [[Germantown, Montgomery County, Maryland]] ?
2008-01-02 08:56 < Nathyn> Lol.
2008-01-02 08:56 < bjweeks> My town isn't notable but has a large page
2008-01-02 08:56 < Nathyn> Well, to be honest, though, my town is notable. ;)
2008-01-02 08:56 < Aqwis2> that place has 60 000 inhabitants
2008-01-02 08:56 < Aqwis2> if you don't think that's notable, you're on crack
2008-01-02 08:57 < Lycurgus> yeah I would have been surprised if there was no Germantown, MD article
2008-01-02 08:57 < Cyrius> there's 3 other germantown, MDs
2008-01-02 08:57 < OverlordQ> the city I went to High School has a page, pop: 1200 :)
2008-01-02 08:57 < Cyrius> they have articles too
2008-01-02 08:57 < Nathyn> I forgot that my town as so large... It was really small 10 years ago.
2008-01-02 08:57 * Drunken_Idiot hugs Phoenix-wiki
2008-01-02 08:57 < Phoenix-wiki> hyea
2008-01-02 08:57 < Cyrius> although said articles are even more trivial than the Chadwell article
2008-01-02 08:58 < Leslie_S> Nathyn, all towns are notable as far as i care.
2008-01-02 08:58 < Leslie_S> Nathyn, especially with the whole rambot thing, creating useless ass articles on cities that nobody has ever heard of.
2008-01-02 08:58 < Nathyn> OK.
2008-01-02 08:58 < Cyrius> there is no active reason to delete them that I can see
2008-01-02 08:58 < Nathyn> Well, here is an ideal example, OK.
2008-01-02 08:59 < bjweeks> this entire argument hasn't focused on towns at all, this is just delete vs don't
2008-01-02 08:59 < Leslie_S> Cyrius, there was no active reason to create them either.
2008-01-02 08:59 < Aqwis2> Cyrius, "making wikipedia look better"! we need to be britannica!
2008-01-02 08:59 < Cyrius> Leslie_S: hush.
2008-01-02 08:59 < Nathyn> I have family that live in upstate New York in the country, in an absurdly small town called "North Brookfield."
2008-01-02 08:59 < Nathyn> Nothing but farms and undeveloped land... Population 300.
2008-01-02 08:59 < bumm13> so?
2008-01-02 08:59 < Drunken_Idiot> Hello bumm13
2008-01-02 08:59 < Nathyn> Well, what could such an article on North Brookfield contain?
2008-01-02 08:59 * Drunken_Idiot hugs Leslie_S
2008-01-02 08:59 < bumm13> many things
2008-01-02 08:59 < Aqwis2> census
2008-01-02 09:00 < Nathyn> Hah!
2008-01-02 09:00 < Nathyn> And I see "North Brookfield, New York" isn't even up there.
2008-01-02 09:00 < Cyrius> Nathyn: you don't know until you try looking
2008-01-02 09:00 < OverlordQ> area, population, elevation, geographical features
2008-01-02 09:00 < Aqwis2> why does having a stub with a referenced census stat and geography section harm wikipedia?
2008-01-02 09:00 < Cyrius> just because you can't write a book on something, that does not mean it should not be in Wikipedia
2008-01-02 09:00 < Leslie_S> Aqwis, it doesnt
2008-01-02 09:00 < Nathyn> Aqwis, again, you just made an "argument to avoid"
2008-01-02 09:00 < Aqwis2> that's what you fail at explaining
2008-01-02 09:00 < bjweeks> Aqwis: WP:NOT a directory
2008-01-02 09:00 < Leslie_S> Aqwis, it was just pointless to make them
2008-01-02 09:01 < Aqwis2> bjweeks, you could just as well say "wikipedia is not a directory" of anything else
2008-01-02 09:01 < Drunken_Idiot> bumm13: Can I pm you?
2008-01-02 09:01 < Nathyn> Aqwis, see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_deletion_discussions
2008-01-02 09:01 < Nathyn> "It doesn't do any harm"
2008-01-02 09:01 < Aqwis2> Nathyn, what i'm saying is that you have not yet given any reasons why to delete those articles
2008-01-02 09:01 < Cyrius> but that's what deletion really comes down to
2008-01-02 09:01 < Aqwis2> not a single
2008-01-02 09:01 < Leslie_S> Aqwis, for a while it used to be that if you hit random page, it would 90% of the time return a rambot stub, which was annoying as hell.
2008-01-02 09:01 < Nathyn> No, it doesn't.
2008-01-02 09:01 < Cyrius> "does it hurt Wikipedia"
2008-01-02 09:01 < bumm13> Drunken_Idiot: sure
2008-01-02 09:02 < Nathyn> "hurt" Wikipedia is a very vague idea.
2008-01-02 09:02 < Cyrius> of course it is, that's why it's hard to write down
2008-01-02 09:02 < Aqwis2> Nathyn, why is having articles about small towns a bad thing?
2008-01-02 09:02 < Aqwis2> "noone's interested in reading about them" is not a valid argument
2008-01-02 09:02 < Nathyn> It doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. The point is whether it's in accordance with wikipedia policy.
2008-01-02 09:03 < Aqwis2> then perhaps we need to change wikipedia policy
2008-01-02 09:03 < Aqwis2> and i disagree that it is