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2008-01-01 07:29 < Cyrius> "It's okay, you don't have to pretend to find Captain Janeway attractive. Straight men don't do that either. "
2008-01-01 07:30 < Luna-San> Voyager always seemed so forced, compared to TNG. Though I admit I was much younger for TNG, and may have missed any awkward forcedness that was present at the time. ;)
2008-01-01 07:34 * brown_cat cuddles Cometstyles
2008-01-01 07:34 < brown_cat> Warpath = Cometstyles?
2008-01-01 07:34 * Cometstyles kicks brown_cat >:(
2008-01-01 07:34 < Warpath> hell no !! :S
2008-01-01 07:34 < brown_cat> I thought Warpath was nicer
2008-01-01 07:34 * Drunken_Idiot stares at brown_cat
2008-01-01 07:34 * Warpath kicks brown_cat >:(
2008-01-01 07:34 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-01 07:35 < brown_cat> <i=again@wikimedia/Cometstyles> “Peer”<i=ViRuS@wikimedia/Cometstyles> “V”
2008-01-01 07:35 < HumayunMirzajr> Achoo
2008-01-01 07:35 < brown_cat> both have cometstyles in your name
2008-01-01 07:35 * DerHexer waves to Cometstyles
2008-01-01 07:35 < Cometstyles> OMG sockpuppeting :O
2008-01-01 07:35 * DerHexer waves to Warpath
2008-01-01 07:35 < Warpath> ban him :|
2008-01-01 07:35 < HumayunMirzajr> brown_cat: ehem
2008-01-01 07:35 * brown_cat cuddles Cometstyles and Warpath
2008-01-01 07:35 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-01 07:35 < Warpath> hey DerHexer :DD
2008-01-01 07:36 < brown_cat> ban both of them
2008-01-01 07:36 * brown_cat cuddles Warpath
2008-01-01 07:36 * Warpath re-kicks brown_cat
2008-01-01 07:36 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-01 07:36 * brown_cat cuddles Cometstyles
2008-01-01 07:36 < DerHexer> brown_cat, I knew that. That's why I've waved to boths. ;)
2008-01-01 07:36 < brown_cat> :p
2008-01-01 07:36 < Cometstyles> >:(
2008-01-01 07:36 < brown_cat> any aussies here?
2008-01-01 07:36 < Cometstyles> no crikey :|
2008-01-01 07:36 < brown_cat> wow, Cometstyles and Warpath are the same
2008-01-01 07:36 < brown_cat> both are pricks
2008-01-01 07:36 < HumayunMirzajr> Cometstyles: ask brown_cat if he sees me
2008-01-01 07:37 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-01 07:37 < Warpath> >:(
2008-01-01 07:37 * Warpath looks
2008-01-01 07:37 < Warpath> yeah :)
2008-01-01 07:37 < brown_cat> hehehe
2008-01-01 07:37 < brown_cat> http://www.loopaustralia.com/media/shh/ <--- summer heights high (for all the aussies)
2008-01-01 07:37 < Cometstyles> urgh spambot ;P
2008-01-01 07:37 < Cometstyles> wow no real "wikipedia" conversation :S
2008-01-01 07:38 < HumayunMirzajr> Bah
2008-01-01 07:40 < HumayunMirzajr> anyone seen darksun?
2008-01-01 07:54 < White_Cat> strange
2008-01-01 08:00 < White_Cat> Martinp23 you out there?
2008-01-01 08:01 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Yep.
2008-01-01 08:01 < White_Cat> Martinp23
2008-01-01 08:01 < White_Cat> I am trying to figure out how the code works: http://www.java2s.com/Code/CSharp/Network/NewTcpChat.htm
2008-01-01 08:01 < White_Cat> you knew c# right?
2008-01-01 08:01 < White_Cat> I get "Cross-thread operation not valid: Control '' accessed from a thread other than the thread it was created on." error on the hosts.Items.Add(entry); line
2008-01-01 08:03 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Hmm - I'm just putting it into vs now
2008-01-01 08:03 < White_Cat> kk
2008-01-01 08:04 < White_Cat> maybe we can chat over that app :P
2008-01-01 08:10 < Kieff> apparently the little bitch chockes on more than 10 UDP connections
2008-01-01 08:10 < Kieff> chokes*
2008-01-01 08:11 < Kieff> goddamn router
2008-01-01 08:11 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-01-01 08:12 * brown_cat licks Kieff
2008-01-01 08:12 * Kieff is allergic, and now has atopic dermatitis
2008-01-01 08:12 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-01 08:12 * brown_cat cures Kieff
2008-01-01 08:14 < White_Cat> Martinp23 any luck?
2008-01-01 08:14 < greudin> bonne nénée
2008-01-01 08:22 < White_Cat> argh
2008-01-01 08:22 < White_Cat> Martinp23 have you said anything?
2008-01-01 08:23 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Nope - still looking :/
2008-01-01 08:23 < White_Cat> you experience the same problem?
2008-01-01 08:29 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Yeah :| - I think I may have fixed the threading problem (almost, at least), but now it's throwing another with the socket being used more than once.
2008-01-01 08:29 < White_Cat> -_-
2008-01-01 08:29 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Comment out lines 195 and 196 to see what I'm getting - the if() and the hosts.items.add(....
2008-01-01 08:30 < White_Cat> what is on line 195?
2008-01-01 08:31 < Martinp23> if (!hosts.Items.Contains(entry))
2008-01-01 08:33 < White_Cat> oh
2008-01-01 08:33 < White_Cat> I see
2008-01-01 08:33 < White_Cat> !hosts.Items.Contains(entry) may be a fix for that
2008-01-01 08:36 < White_Cat> or at least intended to be a fix
2008-01-01 08:36 < Martinp23> Nope - it happens even if you make it do something as a result of the !hosts.Items.Contains()..., because of the while(true) - infinite loop
2008-01-01 08:37 < Martinp23> White_Cat: http://www.java2s.com/Code/CSharp/Network/TcpChat.htm works - maybe comparing the two would help, but to be honest they're using very different ways ofdoing it
2008-01-01 08:40 < White_Cat> can you connect to another computer?
2008-01-01 08:40 < White_Cat> it gives an error
2008-01-01 08:41 < White_Cat> Cross-thread operation not valid: Control '' accessed from a thread other than the thread it was created on.
2008-01-01 08:41 < White_Cat> results.Items.Add("Connection from: " + client.RemoteEndPoint.ToString());
2008-01-01 08:41 < Martinp23> Argh I see
2008-01-01 08:41 < White_Cat> which makes perfect sence since it doesnt know what to connect to
2008-01-01 08:41 < White_Cat> *sense
2008-01-01 08:42 < White_Cat> 'listen' thing isnt working :/
2008-01-01 08:42 < Drunken_Idiot> White_Cat : HUGGIES
2008-01-01 08:42 < Drunken_Idiot> NotASpy: Hi man
2008-01-01 08:44 < NotASpy> hi Drunken_Idiot
2008-01-01 08:45 < Suva> OMG it is new year!
2008-01-01 08:46 < White_Cat> Martinp23 how is http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread59565.html ?
2008-01-01 08:46 * Drunken_Idiot huggles White_Cat
2008-01-01 08:49 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Looking - http://www.codeproject.com/KB/IP/TCPIPChat.aspx seems interesting, but might be overcomplicated
2008-01-01 08:50 < White_Cat> Martinp23
2008-01-01 08:50 < White_Cat> I am trying to code a pong game
2008-01-01 08:50 < White_Cat> over network
2008-01-01 08:50 < White_Cat> with chat support
2008-01-01 08:54 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Ahh ok- sounds interesting :D - the 6th post on that thread could be useful, but it's in CLI form, but the code that you need is still there ( http://www.daniweb.com/forums/post270446-6.html )
2008-01-01 08:55 < White_Cat> can you check if it works?
2008-01-01 08:56 < White_Cat> I am having a rather unlucky week
2008-01-01 08:56 < White_Cat> failed video cards power lines and etc
2008-01-01 08:56 < Kieff> White_Cat: no worries, regression to the mean
2008-01-01 08:57 < Martinp23> White_Cat: :( - will do
2008-01-01 08:58 < Hildanknight> Hello, everyone. I have a question about the verifiability policy.
2008-01-01 08:59 < Hildanknight> How should one reference "Notable X" sections?
2008-01-01 09:00 < Hildanknight> For example, "Notable players" sections in articles about football clubs and "Notable alumni" sections in articles about schools.
2008-01-01 09:01 < Kieff> you should write why they are notable, and back it up with external sources mentioning this
2008-01-01 09:01 < Hildanknight> Such sections are usually lists.
2008-01-01 09:01 < Hildanknight> So I need references to indicate why they are notable.
2008-01-01 09:02 < Leslie_S> wtf, we just got 6 inches of snow
2008-01-01 09:02 < Kieff> yeah, just a <ref> on each item, if possible
2008-01-01 09:02 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Works well across localhost :D
2008-01-01 09:17 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 09:17 < Kieff> ...
2008-01-01 09:17 < Leslie_S> blah, XM online sucks. i wish i had a sattelite radio in my room.
2008-01-01 09:21 < Drunken_Idiot> Leslie_S: Huggles
2008-01-01 09:21 < Drunken_Idiot> Happy New Year Folks.
2008-01-01 09:22 * kmccoy shivers in response.
2008-01-01 09:22 < Lycurgus> prospero anno Drunken_Idiot
2008-01-01 09:22 < Drunken_Idiot> :D
2008-01-01 09:22 * Leslie_S visits the crappiest website on earth
2008-01-01 09:22 < Drunken_Idiot> no hable italiano
2008-01-01 09:22 < Drunken_Idiot> I gota run actually
2008-01-01 09:22 < Drunken_Idiot> Carol is on
2008-01-01 09:23 < Lycurgus> about what I wonder
2008-01-01 09:23 < Filanca_Yok> by the name of vandalism, hello!
2008-01-01 09:25 < Lycurgus> Filanca_Yok: are you looking for the power of Grayskull?
2008-01-01 09:25 < Leslie_S> im surprised no one asked what the crappiest website on earth was :o
2008-01-01 09:25 < Leslie_S> oh god, they have podcasts now. WTF??
2008-01-01 09:26 < Filanca_Yok> Lycurgus who is Grayskull? your boyfriend?
2008-01-01 09:26 < kmccoy> Lycurgus, hehe
2008-01-01 09:26 < Lycurgus> no silly, you are.
2008-01-01 09:26 < Leslie_S> "Note: With this option, you will not receive a paper copy of your W-2 for 2006. You will be asked to consent to this process, and you may withdraw your consent at any time.
2008-01-01 09:26 < Leslie_S> " 2006? lol
2008-01-01 09:26 < Filanca_Yok> Lycurgus how polite
2008-01-01 09:26 < kmccoy> Holy crap it's cold here.
2008-01-01 09:27 * kmccoy decides to leave this desolate place.
2008-01-01 09:27 < fourmyle> hey
2008-01-01 09:29 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 09:29 < fourmyle> you could have fooled me
2008-01-01 09:29 < NotACow> .,. /..DEATH
2008-01-01 09:31 * NotACow has a laplump
2008-01-01 09:31 < NotACow> goob goob
2008-01-01 09:34 < Filanca`> can we make friendship programs with vandals and other users to reinstate peace in wikipedia?
2008-01-01 09:36 < Hildanknight> Shall we just kick vandals, trolls and POV-pushers to the end of New Zealand!
2008-01-01 09:36 < Hildanknight> *?
2008-01-01 09:37 < Filanca`> we should be respectful to all
2008-01-01 09:38 < Lycurgus> touche;respectfu++
2008-01-01 09:42 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 09:44 < Leslie_S> how about we just stab all the vandals and trolls in the face
2008-01-01 09:44 < Leslie_S> and put the pov pushers in wiki prison for a year or two until they reform
2008-01-01 09:45 * NotACow thinks someone has some latent aggression problems to deal with
2008-01-01 09:45 < Filanca`> that attitude will bring us in a worse position
2008-01-01 09:45 < Leslie_S> wiki prison could be like a real prison except youre forced to watch videos about NPOV 24/7
2008-01-01 09:45 < Leslie_S> NotACow, ...
2008-01-01 09:46 < Filanca`> we must respect each other.
2008-01-01 09:46 < NotACow> respect is a little bird, chirping in a meadow
2008-01-01 09:48 < Lycurgus> yeah but what if I'm tryin to respect on you and you think I'm trying to fuck with you and I am but not in a bad way? Hmmm?
2008-01-01 09:48 < White_Cat> Martinp23 which post were you spesificaly refering to
2008-01-01 09:49 < White_Cat> I see a consol app
2008-01-01 09:49 < White_Cat> I cant code pong on a consol :(
2008-01-01 09:51 < Filanca`> NotACow a bird for sure, not a cow
2008-01-01 09:52 < Filanca`> Lycurgus unlike irc respect is not an option in wikipedia, it is a rule... here only civilized people choose to be respectful, there everybody has to
2008-01-01 09:53 < NotACow> Filanca`: respect is never a rule.
2008-01-01 09:54 < NotACow> respect is always earned.
2008-01-01 09:54 < White_Cat> NotACow oh really?
2008-01-01 09:54 < NotACow> if you force people to pretend to respect one another, you're just making people lie to one another
2008-01-01 09:54 < White_Cat> THAT explains a lot
2008-01-01 09:54 < White_Cat> NotACow self criticism is always good
2008-01-01 09:56 < White_Cat> Martinp23 you aorund?
2008-01-01 09:58 < Kieff> see ya later folks
2008-01-01 10:00 < NotACow> neerp!
2008-01-01 10:00 < Doc_glasgow> NotACow: preen!
2008-01-01 10:01 < Doc_glasgow> anf Happy New Year
2008-01-01 10:01 < NotACow> hoppy new year
2008-01-01 10:01 < Doc_glasgow> hippy new yarl
2008-01-01 10:08 < kmccoy> Alright, time to finish packing, then it's off to my new job. Later everyone. :)
2008-01-01 10:12 < Mahlzahn_> hello all
2008-01-01 10:12 < fourmyle> hey
2008-01-01 10:13 < Mahlzahn_> everyone have a good new year's eve?
2008-01-01 10:13 < fourmyle> worked for half of it, but then it was good
2008-01-01 10:13 < fourmyle> lol
2008-01-01 10:13 < Mahlzahn_> heh
2008-01-01 10:14 < fourmyle> triple pay bitches
2008-01-01 10:14 < Mahlzahn_> I was here. Was an experience.
2008-01-01 10:14 < Mahlzahn_> yes, I can imagine.
2008-01-01 10:14 < fourmyle> oh, yes, i only went out later on at night
2008-01-01 10:15 < fourmyle> i spent my first seconds of 2008 on 4chan : (
2008-01-01 10:15 < Cyrius> aww
2008-01-01 10:15 < fourmyle> lol
2008-01-01 10:15 < Cyrius> nobody should have to spend any time on 4chan
2008-01-01 10:16 < KingofHearts> This guy is adding random junk to stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:81.179.98.73&action=edit
2008-01-01 10:16 < KingofHearts> What should I do?
2008-01-01 10:16 < NotACow> baaaaaaaah
2008-01-01 10:16 < NotACow> KingofHearts: revert him
2008-01-01 10:16 < NotACow> KingofHearts: send ninjas to cut his internet connection
2008-01-01 10:17 < Cyrius> effective, but slow
2008-01-01 10:17 < NotACow> set fire to his chickens
2008-01-01 10:17 < mavhk> Cyrius: you've never seen a ninja
2008-01-01 10:17 < mavhk> they're that fast
2008-01-01 10:17 < NotACow> wikininjas
2008-01-01 10:18 < NotACow> the shadowy terrorist that anyone can edit
2008-01-01 10:18 < Cyrius> DerHexer threatened him
2008-01-01 10:18 < NotACow> DerHexer threatens everyone
2008-01-01 10:19 * DerHexer|absens threatens Cyrius and NotACow.
2008-01-01 10:19 < Cyrius> meh
2008-01-01 10:19 < White_Cat> Martinp23 yo?
2008-01-01 10:29 < KingofHearts> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzbE1cdRsT4&feature=related
2008-01-01 10:29 < KingofHearts> turn volume down
2008-01-01 10:30 < Texou> hi and happy new year everybody
2008-01-01 10:30 < KingofHearts> Hello!
2008-01-01 10:36 < balrog-kun> hey there
2008-01-01 10:36 < balrog-kun> does the wiki do any autosaving during edition?
2008-01-01 10:37 < balrog-kun> i had a browser crash just before saving the article
2008-01-01 10:37 < Cyrius> no
2008-01-01 10:37 < KingofHearts> I dont think so.
2008-01-01 10:37 < balrog-kun> :-(
2008-01-01 10:37 < KingofHearts> That must suck.
2008-01-01 10:37 < KingofHearts> What article was it?
2008-01-01 10:38 < Cyrius> it's best that it doesn't autosave publically, and implementing some sort of private autosave would be a lot of work
2008-01-01 10:38 < balrog-kun> KingofHearts: "Secoya" in es.wikipedia.org
2008-01-01 10:38 < Cyrius> Ceiling_Cat: there is currently a cat in the house that looks somewhat like your namesake
2008-01-01 10:38 < KingofHearts> Oh, Its in spanish then right?
2008-01-01 10:38 < balrog-kun> KingofHearts: yeah
2008-01-01 10:39 < KingofHearts> Then I cant help you, sorry.
2008-01-01 10:39 < KingofHearts> Just save a lot thats what I do.
2008-01-01 10:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Cyrius - oh?
2008-01-01 10:39 < balrog-kun> yeah, i think i'll start doing that
2008-01-01 10:40 < balrog-kun> i have the session manager thing installed in my firefox but it somehow didn't work this time
2008-01-01 10:40 < Cyrius> Ceiling_Cat: yellow tabby, white muzzle, similar head shape
2008-01-01 10:40 < Cyrius> not identical enough to fool the internets though
2008-01-01 10:40 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat!
2008-01-01 10:40 < shimgray> balrog-kun: Firefox is *usually* good, but best not to rely on it :-)
2008-01-01 10:41 < balrog-kun> shimgray: right
2008-01-01 10:41 < Cyrius> nose is too pink and the tabby forehead M isn't well-defined
2008-01-01 10:41 < KingofHearts> balrog-kun use opera it recovers most of the time.
2008-01-01 10:42 < balrog-kun> KingofHearts: firefox also recovered form contents for me most of the time
2008-01-01 10:42 * brown_cat scratches around
2008-01-01 10:42 < balrog-kun> KingofHearts: and i though opera was closed-source?
2008-01-01 10:42 < balrog-kun> thought
2008-01-01 10:43 < KingofHearts> brown_cat hello
2008-01-01 10:43 * brown_cat cuddles KingofHearts
2008-01-01 10:43 < KingofHearts> Why are there so many cats?
2008-01-01 10:43 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-01-01 10:43 * LOUD_CAT huggles Cyrius, White_Cat
2008-01-01 10:43 * brown_cat sits on KingofHearts' lap
2008-01-01 10:43 < brown_cat> HI LOUD_CAT!!!!
2008-01-01 10:43 < brown_cat> HOE ARE YOU?
2008-01-01 10:43 < LOUD_CAT> HELLO BROWN_CAT. LONG TIME NO SEE
2008-01-01 10:44 < brown_cat> HUG?
2008-01-01 10:44 * LOUD_CAT HUGGLES BROWN_CAT
2008-01-01 10:44 * brown_cat HUGS LOUD CAT
2008-01-01 10:44 < brown_cat> :D
2008-01-01 10:44 < Cyrius> please, no huggles
2008-01-01 10:44 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike Godwin just approved my latest brilliant idea
2008-01-01 10:44 * brown_cat HUGS CYRIUS
2008-01-01 10:44 < brown_cat> xF
2008-01-01 10:44 < Ceiling_Cat> so I've just made it live
2008-01-01 10:44 < brown_cat> xD
2008-01-01 10:44 < KingofHearts> :D
2008-01-01 10:44 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Wikipedia:Contact us/Photo submission]]
2008-01-01 10:45 < Cyrius> why didn't we have that already?
2008-01-01 10:45 < KingofHearts> What will that do?
2008-01-01 10:45 < Ceiling_Cat> Cyrius - I suggested it in September
2008-01-01 10:45 < Ceiling_Cat> but the OTRS server couldn't handle it
2008-01-01 10:45 < Ceiling_Cat> so I had to wait until now
2008-01-01 10:45 < Lycurgus> all the sexy people already have pics on thier user pages
2008-01-01 10:45 < Cyrius> ...couldn't handle... why!?
2008-01-01 10:46 < Ceiling_Cat> Because it was already low on space when I suggested it
2008-01-01 10:46 < Ceiling_Cat> and my idea would have killed it
2008-01-01 10:47 < Doc_glasgow> Ceiling_Cat: great idea, but you might wish to explicitly state that we will not accept a "wikipedia only" permission, and outline the reasony why
2008-01-01 10:47 < Ceiling_Cat> Doc_glasgow - "for use on Wikipedia and its sister projects."
2008-01-01 10:48 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm not going to detail all the ways that people can screw up
2008-01-01 10:48 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm trying to keep that page as simple as possible
2008-01-01 10:48 < Doc_glasgow> Ceiling_Cat: but that's not free content
2008-01-01 10:48 < Doc_glasgow> ah, OK, I get it now
2008-01-01 10:49 * Ceiling_Cat nods
2008-01-01 10:49 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-01-01 10:49 < White_Cat> there was a broad checkuser request I was thinking
2008-01-01 10:50 < Leslie_S> sigh, i sure wish i had a laptop.
2008-01-01 10:50 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - I'm busy now
2008-01-01 10:50 < Ceiling_Cat> I don't have time to do it
2008-01-01 10:50 < White_Cat> right after new years eve you are busy?
2008-01-01 10:51 < White_Cat> Leslie_S you wished santa?
2008-01-01 10:51 < KingofHearts> I JUST MADE MY 200 EDIT!!!!!!!!!
2008-01-01 10:51 < KingofHearts> YAAA
2008-01-01 10:51 < KingofHearts> *200th
2008-01-01 10:52 < flibbertigibbet> Congratulations!
2008-01-01 10:52 < mavhk> calm down a bit
2008-01-01 10:52 < White_Cat> Martinp23? :(
2008-01-01 10:52 < White_Cat> 200th edit?
2008-01-01 10:52 < Leslie_S> White_Cat, it just realy sucks to not have one.
2008-01-01 10:52 < Martinp23> White_Cat: :S
2008-01-01 10:52 < KingofHearts> White_Cat yep
2008-01-01 10:52 < Leslie_S> White_Cat, and i dont have good enough credit to get a loan.
2008-01-01 10:52 < White_Cat> I made 200 edits on multiple wikis in the last hour via bot
2008-01-01 10:52 < White_Cat> Martinp23! :D
2008-01-01 10:52 < Martinp23> White_Cat: I've been /away :)
2008-01-01 10:52 < KingofHearts> Its my second day here
2008-01-01 10:52 < White_Cat> yes I noticed
2008-01-01 10:52 < flibbertigibbet> white_cat, don't be a spoilsport. :p
2008-01-01 10:52 < Leslie_S> White_Cat, and im saving my credit cards to start a business :P
2008-01-01 10:53 < White_Cat> Martinp23 I am having problems with one referance there
2008-01-01 10:53 < White_Cat> that thread thing
2008-01-01 10:53 < White_Cat> GAK! using System.Threading;
2008-01-01 10:53 * White_Cat headbutts for forgetting it
2008-01-01 10:54 < KingofHearts> White_Cat How do you get a bot?
2008-01-01 10:54 < Martinp23> White_Cat: What's the problem? Does it need a reference to be added to the project, or is something else showing up?
2008-01-01 10:54 < White_Cat> KingofHearts well make 1000 edits and then we can talk about bots :D
2008-01-01 10:54 < Drunken_Idiot> Hmn
2008-01-01 10:54 < White_Cat> Martinp23 I think I resolved it :/
2008-01-01 10:55 < White_Cat> Martinp23 it is still not working
2008-01-01 10:55 < White_Cat> tho I get no errors
2008-01-01 10:55 < Drunken_Idiot> White_Cat: Serious talk :P ?
2008-01-01 10:55 < Martinp23> Ack - is this the one from the forum?
2008-01-01 10:55 < KingofHearts> White_Cat ill get that by the end of the week. :)
2008-01-01 11:04 < KingofHearts> Is this worth keeping? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_succession_to_the_British_Throne/Descendants_of_Princess_Augusta_Charlotte_of_Wales
2008-01-01 11:05 < Doc_glasgow> KingofHearts: extreme cruft
2008-01-01 11:05 < Aqwis> move it to userspace
2008-01-01 11:06 < mavhk> get Princess_Augusta_Charlotte_of_Wales to join and put it on her userpage
2008-01-01 11:06 < KingofHearts> what does extreme cruft mean
2008-01-01 11:06 < Doc_glasgow> KingofHearts: only possibly of interest to obsessive nutters
2008-01-01 11:07 < White_Cat> Martinp23
2008-01-01 11:07 < Doc_glasgow> theodds of any of these people ascending to the throne are nil
2008-01-01 11:07 < White_Cat> mind if I PM this?
2008-01-01 11:07 < Martinp23> White_Cat: Go ahead :)
2008-01-01 11:07 < KingofHearts> So what should I do with it then?
2008-01-01 11:07 < shimgray> On the other hand, it's amusing
2008-01-01 11:08 < shimgray> Having *articles* on these people would be excessive, but keeping it? meh, doesn't hurt
2008-01-01 11:08 < Doc_glasgow> KingofHearts: the only thing that could be done is afd it - it may well be OR anyway. But, per shimgray whether it is worth deleting is questionable
2008-01-01 11:09 < KingofHearts> Well there are no sources.
2008-01-01 11:09 < KingofHearts> ill tag it.
2008-01-01 11:09 < shimgray> KingofHearts: It's a subpage; sources are on the main article
2008-01-01 11:09 < shimgray> quite why it's been split out, I don't know
2008-01-01 11:09 < shimgray> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_succession_to_the_British_Throne
2008-01-01 11:10 < KingofHearts> So just let it go?
2008-01-01 11:10 < Doc_glasgow> KingofHearts: I'd ignore it
2008-01-01 11:10 < shimgray> is it worth caring about? not really :-)
2008-01-01 11:10 < White_Cat> Martinp23 you got my post?
2008-01-01 11:11 < KingofHearts> shimgray guess your right
2008-01-01 11:11 < White_Cat> shimgray I suppose everything is excessive
2008-01-01 11:12 * White_Cat thinks articles on those passific countries are excesive
2008-01-01 11:12 < mavhk> yeah, they'll be under water soon
2008-01-01 11:14 < shimgray> you want to know what's excessive?
2008-01-01 11:14 < shimgray> we have an article on the Euro coins of the United Kingdom
2008-01-01 11:14 < shimgray> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_euro_coins
2008-01-01 11:15 < shimgray> in three languages, too!
2008-01-01 11:16 < morwen> shimgray: is that more or less pointless than the article about the TLD .dd that we had?
2008-01-01 11:16 < Doc_glasgow> shimgray: That ought tobe deleted
2008-01-01 11:16 < shimgray> morwen: That one's a redirect, now, it seems
2008-01-01 11:16 < Doc_glasgow> the only specific FACT is that "there are none"
2008-01-01 11:17 < TheKingofHearts> Whats the point of that/
2008-01-01 11:17 < TheKingofHearts> ?
2008-01-01 11:17 < morwen> Doc_glasgow: but you can buy them on the internet
2008-01-01 11:17 < morwen> so they must exist, right?
2008-01-01 11:17 < shimgray> "There are none", plus a one-paragraph recap of why we're not in line to join
2008-01-01 11:17 < morwen> also some musing that they would be boring anyway, not to disrepect brenda of course.
2008-01-01 11:17 < shimgray> plus some mild speculation, but the kind that's actually useful
2008-01-01 11:18 < Doc_glasgow> morwen: youcan buy magic medicine that will make a penis grow larger on the internet too
2008-01-01 11:18 < shimgray> (ie, notes about what other monarchies do)
2008-01-01 11:18 < Cyrius> Doc_glasgow: what do I care about some penis on the internet?
2008-01-01 11:19 < Doc_glasgow> ha
2008-01-01 11:24 < Phoenix-wiki> Is wikispecies considered notable?
2008-01-01 11:26 < Doc_glasgow> I've heard of it, so obviously yes
2008-01-01 11:26 < NotACow> INTERPENISNET
2008-01-01 11:28 < Doc_glasgow> I need a proof reader
2008-01-01 11:28 < Drunken_Idiot> Hi
2008-01-01 11:28 < Drunken_Idiot> I am not drunk
2008-01-01 11:28 < Aqwis> it's received coverage in Nature and Science it seems
2008-01-01 11:31 < EdBoy> so you're just an idiot?
2008-01-01 11:33 < Doc_glasgow> a sober idiot
2008-01-01 11:33 < Doc_glasgow> as only idiots are at this time of year
2008-01-01 11:34 * Doc_glasgow is trolling because it is either that or play Monopoly with the kids
2008-01-01 11:36 < Drunken_Idiot> YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
2008-01-01 11:36 < Drunken_Idiot> I proved my theory
2008-01-01 11:36 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 11:36 < Drunken_Idiot> Hello NotACow
2008-01-01 11:36 < NotACow> Drunken_Idiot: moo
2008-01-01 11:36 < Drunken_Idiot> Anyone got links to any different sorts of Spider Web pics?
2008-01-01 11:39 < Drunken_Idiot> Spider Webs are fascinating
2008-01-01 11:39 < TheKingofHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Spider_vdg.jpg
2008-01-01 11:39 < shimgray> Doc_glasgow: and they won't let you cheat?
2008-01-01 11:39 < Drunken_Idiot> Thanks TheKingofHearts
2008-01-01 11:39 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: I have about 473 Spider Web pics
2008-01-01 11:39 < Drunken_Idiot> Very nice one indeed
2008-01-01 11:40 < TheKingofHearts> I did a report on spiders once
2008-01-01 11:40 < Doc_glasgow> shimgray: editing wikipedia under the inflence is less likely to end in drama
2008-01-01 11:40 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: I am mixing spider web with psychology and human behaviour some how
2008-01-01 11:41 < shimgray> get the kids drunk too! Put them off it for life.
2008-01-01 11:41 < TheKingofHearts> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc on spider webs
2008-01-01 11:41 < Drunken_Idiot> shimgray: Hehe good 1 but no
2008-01-01 11:41 < Doc_glasgow> anyone got ant interest/knowledge of Scottish baroque portraiture - I need a copyeditor?
2008-01-01 11:41 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: Lemme see
2008-01-01 11:43 < shimgray> I know nothing beyond that I went to that gallery on Queen Street once, I'm afraid.
2008-01-01 11:44 < Doc_glasgow> shimgray: that's more than I knew when I wrote the article
2008-01-01 11:45 < Doc_glasgow> I prefer writing on subjects I am totally ignorant of
2008-01-01 11:45 < shimgray> :-)
2008-01-01 11:46 < TheKingofHearts> Drunken_Idiot mixing spider web with psychology and human behaviour ?
2008-01-01 11:47 < Doc_glasgow> shimgray: [[John Michael Wright]]
2008-01-01 11:47 < TheKingofHearts> Drunken_Idiot how are you going to do that?
2008-01-01 11:47 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: I ve already done half of it
2008-01-01 11:48 < TheKingofHearts> Is it on wikipedia?
2008-01-01 11:49 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: WIll be soon
2008-01-01 11:49 < Drunken_Idiot> *will
2008-01-01 11:50 < TheKingofHearts> tell me when it is :D
2008-01-01 11:51 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: I ll paste it on you're user link
2008-01-01 11:51 < TheKingofHearts> I think it will be pretty cool.
2008-01-01 11:51 < Drunken_Idiot> *user page
2008-01-01 11:51 < TheKingofHearts> ok
2008-01-01 11:51 < shimgray> Doc_glasgow: neat. will polish it after a shower
2008-01-01 11:51 < Doc_glasgow> shimgray: :)
2008-01-01 11:51 < shimgray> is there a single most famous work, so we can have an image in the lede?
2008-01-01 11:53 < TheKingofHearts> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1400/1285668001_676c4a55fe_b.jpg
2008-01-01 11:54 < Drunken_Idiot> TheKingofHearts: I love you boy heh thanks
2008-01-01 11:54 < sunderland2006> Any football fans
2008-01-01 11:54 < TheKingofHearts> your welcome :)
2008-01-01 11:55 < Drunken_Idiot> sunderland2006: Man Utd Forever
2008-01-01 11:57 < sunderland2006> any other football fans who think that under 19 and under 20 national football team players should be considered notable
2008-01-01 11:58 < TheKingofHearts> soccer or american football
2008-01-01 11:58 < sunderland2006> soccer
2008-01-01 12:05 < sunderland2006> so anybody
2008-01-01 12:05 < sunderland2006> ?
2008-01-01 12:07 < TheKingofHearts> I watch american soccer and the world cup but thats it.
2008-01-01 12:08 < TheKingofHearts> What is the difference between a POV pusher and one-sided representation
2008-01-01 12:08 < sunderland2006> think its pretty much the same
2008-01-01 12:08 < sunderland2006> but ask someone else cos i'm crap7
2008-01-01 12:09 < Lycurgus> well the pusher often makes themselves obnoxious by trying to suppress the opposing view
2008-01-01 12:09 < TheKingofHearts> I was talking to someone about it in a private chat about it.
2008-01-01 12:09 < TheKingofHearts> Is this right/
2008-01-01 12:10 < TheKingofHearts> A POV is a person who wants to "convert" people to there ideas , one-sided representation is just a person who is editing but not from a neutral point of view.
2008-01-01 12:10 < TheKingofHearts> *POV pusher
2008-01-01 12:12 < Lycurgus> TheKingofHearts: do you have an English wikipedia account name?
2008-01-01 12:13 < TheKingofHearts> Yep
2008-01-01 12:13 < TheKingofHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KingsOfHearts
2008-01-01 12:14 < TheKingofHearts> This is just my second day here
2008-01-01 12:15 < TheKingofHearts> But I have done some kind of good stuff so far.
2008-01-01 12:16 < sunderland2006> TheKingofHearts do your private messages work
2008-01-01 12:16 < TheKingofHearts> I just fixed it
2008-01-01 12:17 < sunderland2006> go on the tab with sunderland2006
2008-01-01 12:19 < Lycurgus> yes, you're doing great. I do sense that you are a native speaker of Chinese and not English which is all the more impressive.
2008-01-01 12:19 < Lycurgus> (could be wrong of course)
2008-01-01 12:22 < mavhk> TheKingofHearts: no need to link an article to itself though
2008-01-01 12:23 < TheKingofHearts> When did I do That?
2008-01-01 12:36 < TheKingofHearts> Lycurgus Im not chinese!!
2008-01-01 12:37 < Lycurgus> d'oh!
2008-01-01 12:40 < Lycurgus> well nobody's perfect.
2008-01-01 12:40 < TheKingofHearts> Its ok.
2008-01-01 12:41 * brown_cat licks TheKingofHearts
2008-01-01 12:42 * TheKingofHearts pets brown_cat
2008-01-01 12:42 < brown_cat> :D
2008-01-01 12:42 * brown_cat hopes to be adopted by TheKingofHearts
2008-01-01 12:44 * brown_cat stares at Messedrocker
2008-01-01 12:44 < Messedrocker> Tony R. Sidaway!
2008-01-01 12:45 < TheKingofHearts> Lycurgus Did you conclude I was chinese from my writing here or my edits?
2008-01-01 12:45 < TheKingofHearts> Just wondering.
2008-01-01 12:46 < Tony_Sidaway> R.?
2008-01-01 12:48 < Mahlzahn_> TheKingofHearts: apropos "POV pushing": "POV pushing" is a misnomer. What is really meant is mis-using the 'pedia to preach, or to exalt an idea beyond its real importance. This is a violation of WP:SOAPBOX, not of WP:NPOV.
2008-01-01 12:48 * Messedrocker gives Tony_Sidaway a pink incarnation
2008-01-01 12:49 < TheKingofHearts> Mahlzahn_ do you think im from china?
2008-01-01 12:49 < Mahlzahn_> No. Should I? I'd say US-midwest.
2008-01-01 12:50 < mavhk> I'm going for someone called dc
2008-01-01 12:50 < Messedrocker> mavhk, as in, you're pursuing someone sexually named DC?
2008-01-01 12:51 * brown_cat writes all over Messedrocker's wall with crayons
2008-01-01 12:51 * Messedrocker sprays brown_cat with water
2008-01-01 12:51 < Lycurgus> it's allright lad, a bold soldier like yourself will certainly be able to overcome what might otherwise be a crushing lack of sinicism
2008-01-01 12:51 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-01-01 12:51 * brown_cat scares Messedrocker >:D
2008-01-01 12:51 < TheKingofHearts> Closer than china, I live in nortern virginia.
2008-01-01 12:52 * Messedrocker picks up brown_cat
2008-01-01 12:52 < brown_cat> :D
2008-01-01 12:52 * brown_cat cuddles Messedrocker
2008-01-01 12:52 < Messedrocker> cats hate being picked up, though...
2008-01-01 12:52 * brown_cat loves it :D
2008-01-01 12:53 < mavhk> Messedrocker: ah, the freudian slap
2008-01-01 12:53 < Mahlzahn_> mavhk: "dc" as in Washington, DC more likely. :)
2008-01-01 12:54 < Messedrocker> what slip? I said what I meant to say
2008-01-01 12:54 < TheKingofHearts> ya I live close to there.
2008-01-01 12:54 < Mahlzahn_> yes, we know where you live. :)
2008-01-01 12:54 < Messedrocker> yeah
2008-01-01 12:54 < Messedrocker> in china
2008-01-01 12:55 < Mahlzahn_> moo?
2008-01-01 12:55 < Messedrocker> you're not KELLY MARTIN!
2008-01-01 12:55 < Messedrocker> IMPOSTER!!!!
2008-01-01 12:55 * Messedrocker shoots mahlzahn_
2008-01-01 12:55 < Mahlzahn_> moo 2?
2008-01-01 12:55 < brown_cat> Messedrocker: my nightmare came true :'(
2008-01-01 12:56 * brown_cat is scared
2008-01-01 12:56 < Mahlzahn_> who is Kelly Martin and why should I care?
2008-01-01 12:56 < Messedrocker> that someone would impersonate kelly martin?
2008-01-01 12:56 < Messedrocker> Mahlzahn_, annoying woman who goes "moo" all the time
2008-01-01 12:56 < Mahlzahn_> oh
2008-01-01 12:56 < TheKingofHearts> Well im going to go bye!
2008-01-01 12:56 < Mahlzahn_> well, my "moo" comes from the time I was at distributed.net
2008-01-01 12:56 < Mahlzahn_> our mascot was a cow.
2008-01-01 12:57 * brown_cat holds onto Messedrocker in fear
2008-01-01 12:57 < Messedrocker> nice
2008-01-01 12:57 < Mahlzahn_> whassup brown_cat?
2008-01-01 12:57 * Messedrocker strokes brown_cat
2008-01-01 12:57 < brown_cat> Mahlzah_: I saw a camera which had a mind of its own
2008-01-01 12:58 < Mahlzahn_> and...?
2008-01-01 12:58 < brown_cat> it is a cat thing
2008-01-01 12:58 < Mahlzahn_> did it take pictures of you without fur?
2008-01-01 12:58 < brown_cat> that's the last time I will ever watch mika live
2008-01-01 12:58 * brown_cat cries
2008-01-01 12:58 < Mahlzahn_> I'd be annoyed with a camera that did that.
2008-01-01 12:59 * Mahlzahn_ consoles brown_cat
2008-01-01 12:59 * brown_cat cuddles Mahlzahn_
2008-01-01 12:59 < Mahlzahn_> you're all right here. We'll keep the nasty camera away.
2008-01-01 12:59 < brown_cat> HI LOUD CAT!!!
2008-01-01 12:59 < LOUD_CAT> HELLO BROWN_CAT
2008-01-01 13:00 < Mahlzahn_> HELLO CAPS LOCK
2008-01-01 13:00 * BROWN_CAT HUGS LOUD_CAT
2008-01-01 13:00 * brown_cat hopes to be adopted by Mahlzahn_
2008-01-01 13:01 * Mahlzahn_ refuses to put a collar around brown_cat's beautiful neck.
2008-01-01 13:01 < brown_cat> :D
2008-01-01 13:01 * brown_cat loves Mahlzahn_
2008-01-01 13:01 < Sfan00> St47: PING!
2008-01-01 13:10 < sunderland2006> anyone else like football
2008-01-01 13:14 < mavhk> nope, we're nerds
2008-01-01 13:15 < sunderland2006> lol
2008-01-01 13:25 < NotACow> moo
2008-01-01 13:25 < Messedrocker> happy moo year
2008-01-01 13:26 < sunderland2006> NotACow:do you like football
2008-01-01 13:26 < NotACow> sunderland2006: european or american?
2008-01-01 13:26 < sunderland2006> worldwide
2008-01-01 13:28 < sunderland2006> NotACow:Have you got private messages
2008-01-01 13:34 * NotACow is disinterested regarding european football
2008-01-01 13:35 * NotACow finds the game of american football vaguely interesting from a technical standpoint but strongly dislikes the culture that surrounds it
2008-01-01 13:36 * NotACow ignites more lignum
2008-01-01 13:36 * Messedrocker ignites NotACow
2008-01-01 13:44 < Mahlzahn_> Holy cow (or not), this is turning into a cold winter.
2008-01-01 13:44 < Mahlzahn_> Its an unusually cold -3 here right now (that would be °C for our non-metric friends) and its not even 20:00 (that would be 8.00 pm for our non-European friends)
2008-01-01 13:45 < White_Cat> non-metric people are foes
2008-01-01 13:45 < White_Cat> not friends
2008-01-01 13:45 < sunderland2006> is brown cat now white cat
2008-01-01 13:45 < Mahlzahn_> my first attempt at mediation leads me to believe that is true.
2008-01-01 13:46 < White_Cat> Mahlzahn_! HAH! I stand corrected!
2008-01-01 13:46 < White_Cat> Well
2008-01-01 13:46 < White_Cat> Cats cant really stand
2008-01-01 13:46 < Mahlzahn_> some guy insisted that because most .en readers were 'merkins, all surface areas should be in square miles and *only* in square miles
2008-01-01 13:47 < Ausir> lol
2008-01-01 13:47 < White_Cat> Mahlzahn_ indef ban him
2008-01-01 13:47 < Ausir> non-metric should be banned
2008-01-01 13:47 < NotACow> Mahlzahn_: nobody understands how large a square kilometer is anyway
2008-01-01 13:47 < White_Cat> Tell him that CIA agents need non-metric info for national secirity
2008-01-01 13:47 < Hello32020> NON-METRIC > Metric
2008-01-01 13:47 < Mahlzahn_> he left after a load of "Wikipedia is full of nationalists" tripe.
2008-01-01 13:48 < Hello32020> 5280 ft = one mile :D
2008-01-01 13:48 < Mahlzahn_> heh
2008-01-01 13:48 < Hello32020> 3 ft = 1 yard
2008-01-01 13:48 < TheKingofHearts> 12 inches = 1 foot
2008-01-01 13:48 < Hello32020> 16 oz = 1 pound
2008-01-01 13:48 < White_Cat> I think my foot is longer than 12 inches
2008-01-01 13:49 < Hello32020> Imperial Units FTW
2008-01-01 13:49 < Ausir> ftl
2008-01-01 13:49 < Mahlzahn_> The punchline is... the article in question where this was going on was ... Israel.
2008-01-01 13:49 < Hello32020> FTW
2008-01-01 13:49 < Mahlzahn_> which is not only a metric country, it has non-settled borders. ;)
2008-01-01 13:49 < NotACow> heh
2008-01-01 13:50 < NotACow> Mahlzahn_: anything regarding israel is automatically going to be involved in an edit war.
2008-01-01 13:50 < Aqwis> i wish the same was the case for norway
2008-01-01 13:50 < Aqwis> then i would get some drama in the articles i edit =/
2008-01-01 13:50 < Aqwis> drama mmm
2008-01-01 13:51 < Mahlzahn_> does norway have borders that are disputed? :)
2008-01-01 13:51 < Ausir> I'm from a city in Poland that used to be in Germany, pretty editwarish too :)
2008-01-01 13:51 < Aqwis> no
2008-01-01 13:51 < Aqwis> but i wish we had
2008-01-01 13:51 < Hello32020> I <3 Imperial Units
2008-01-01 13:51 < Aqwis> we could claim the Americas since we discovered it tbh
2008-01-01 13:51 < Aqwis> at least north america
2008-01-01 13:52 < Ausir> Aqwis: you didn't
2008-01-01 13:52 < Mahlzahn_> Ausir: I'm from a city in *Germany* far west, and a certain Pole insisted the article also show the Polish name too.
2008-01-01 13:52 < Aqwis> shh!
2008-01-01 13:52 < Aqwis> neither did columbus
2008-01-01 13:52 < Ausir> Aqwis: the indians did
2008-01-01 13:52 < Aqwis> doesn't matter :(
2008-01-01 13:52 < TubbyCa1> vikings :p
2008-01-01 13:52 < sunderland2006> we made america
2008-01-01 13:52 < Hello32020> I'm part German (well Prussian -- thats northern Germany)
2008-01-01 13:52 < Ausir> TubbyCa1: the indians were there before the vikings :)
2008-01-01 13:52 < TubbyCa1> gah.
2008-01-01 13:52 < Hello32020> lol
2008-01-01 13:52 < Mahlzahn_> the indians were not the vikings? :)
2008-01-01 13:53 < Ausir> Mahlzahn: well, what's wrong with that? many cities have traditional names in languages of neighbouring countries
2008-01-01 13:54 < TubbyCat> vikings saw America before the indians did, right?
2008-01-01 13:54 < Aqwis> no
2008-01-01 13:54 < TubbyCat> oh
2008-01-01 13:54 < Mahlzahn_> Ausir: it does (french as well as german). but the bone of contention was that the city had once been occupied for two weeks by a polish troop of Napoleon's, and therefore had to receive the polish name too.
2008-01-01 13:54 < Aqwis> the vikings may have gotten *killed* by indians
2008-01-01 13:54 < TubbyCat> I thought they just kinda saw it and passed by (knowing it's crap)
2008-01-01 13:54 < sunderland2006> did england make america
2008-01-01 13:54 < TubbyCat> :s
2008-01-01 13:54 < Aqwis> TubbyCat, afaik, vikings settled in NA and then they disappeared
2008-01-01 13:54 < Ausir> Mahlzahn: I wouldn't show the name in the intro, but I would put the Polish and French names somewhere in the article as well
2008-01-01 13:55 < TubbyCat> Education in America these days.
2008-01-01 13:55 < Aqwis> but you never know, maybe some of the native american tribes in NA have viking blood in them ;)
2008-01-01 13:55 < TubbyCat> maybe :p
2008-01-01 13:55 < Mahlzahn_> Ausir: its not far from the French border, and was for centuries was French influenced.
2008-01-01 13:56 < sunderland2006> ANDORRA RULES
2008-01-01 13:56 < Mahlzahn_> the rhine being of course the border between the "civilized" peoples and the barbarians. :)

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